The Victim gets there eventually, he leaves the interaction but only after becoming angry, anxious and utterly frustrated. It's one of the toughest lessons I had to learn, empaths especially will seek to explain themselves, respond to false accusations, but it is a pointless exercise with the narcissist. The best course of action is simply to withdraw and end the interaction. It's really tough to do, but it prevents the empath from getting needlessly worked up. HG's ' The Virtues of Keeping Your Mouth Shut' explains this further and is an extremely useful Knowledge Vault purchase that makes a real difference when faced with situations like the one shown here.
A family apartment. Ladies like that like to run whole blocks.i wrote to my local police in the end and apologised on behalf of my local ringleader wasting their time. Job done. I got tricked into a triangle loop recently. When I sussed I said. If this continues I'll see a solicitor and the involved parties will be receiving letters if social services or police are dragged in again. Meanwhile. I'll mow my verge when I'm ready. It's too wet. God they must be itching😅 Luckily not in an apartment. These people cause others to become ill. Enough to drive one to drink.
@@Geeronimo99 Apartments have to be worse as a result of close proximity but if you live in a house on a subdivision then you encounter the HOA. Another narc honey pot. I've heard some crazy stories about HOA interference too. Honestly, the best bet is a house on its own preferably on a hill or even better surrounded by a crocodile infested moat!
Hard to watch - what is worse is that there are so many people like this - neighbours, workmates, relations -----why give them energy oh? Weren't both just as bad but for different reasons?
Especially noteworthy for me is the insight that "the pursuit of the Prime Aims is axiomatic to" understanding the wide-ranging behaviors of narcissists, and, thankfully, the salubrity for victims.
Worst financial decision l ever made was purchasing an apartment. The body corporates are riddled with committee member narcissists. Absolute nightmare.
I moved into this apartment over a year ago and it too from lower management to their leasing commitee and corporate office is infested with narcissisists and antisocials. I have severe physical disabilites and two months after moving in requested an accommodation for a reserved parking, because the parking situation is extemely bad for which mananger responded to move if I didn't like it. A month later was threatened to triangulate another person and given a six month violation (filled with lies) for asking a question about a filter. Over a month later sent a notice with an unexplained charge, then two days later another notice with another extortion charge and threat of eviction if not paid, so when I called to ask what all that was about and he was challenged for not knowing or even given an explanation, his response was they charged for notices, word salad, and to call me fuckening crazy and hang up. Mid March 2023, a written request with proof of delivery was given to them for which they destroyed and denied receiving and up until this very day they have continued to discrimininate and be bias, disparaging, dismissive, lying, gaslighting, contradicting themselves, stonewalling and being passive aggressive by ignoring my emails. They've also retaliated by denying other services/concerns and sabotaging my chances of getting into two other places, while even going as far as to get the on site (lived in building next to mine) wife abusing (even that has been video recorded) psychopath maintenance to participate through passive aggressive actions (harassment, stalking and intentionally damaging my property and trying to ram his car into my truck door while open. All this and more has been video recorded, while a cease and desist warning was ignored until they were told a civil restraining order was being filed against him and the cowards made him disappear. They always believe themselves to be above the law and for this reason a complaint was filed with HUD and DOJ for which is now under investigation. I recently found an online review site of former employees for which one stated they are abusive and always badly slandering the tenants and a former property manager stated that they seem to only look for and hire a "certain type" for which for which my response is that is of course they do, narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths.
Since I watched one of your older videos where you say that this is a defense mechanism, there’s a part of me that feels sorry for people with this disorder. The strategies involved, the fussing and fighting must be tiring.
Genetic predisposition plus growing up in a lack of control environment.. They never "individuated" from their mother, they did not make object relations or object constancy, like a baby, everything is good or evil to them.. Feel sorry- from a distance, GOSO
The quick 'change' of the narcissist's facade when a third person enters the same immediate environment (LOCE for some people) was one aspect of the narcissist's behaviour that I could never understand until finding HG's work. It is somewhat entertaining for me to observe this in an environment that I did not know, with people I did not know where the narcissist appeared to "behave" themselves in front of their boss who was dealing with a client, whereas on a previous occasion that narcissist was really asserting control over the client. HG's work is fascinating ! Thank you 🤍
My favorite study, character acquisition. Like being around some one with an accent and all of a sudden it's out of your mouth. Although this whole personality, taken or given, is soo much scarier.
Thank-you H.G. I really appreciate that you explained her school & cadre at the end. While I do like to try & work it out for myself with such videos, it's useful to have it confirmed or to see where I'm going wrong with your excellent & informative explanations. The most striking thing I noticed with this woman, was the low threshold on her ignited fury. Poor neighbours.
It's frustrating that the victim seems to need to 'nullify the the threat to control' that the narcissist appears to present, rather than shutting the door early on and ringing the cops if she continued to yell outside his door. I hope I'm only seeing a stressor.
How do they know when the victim is completely under control? Do they have to assert control a fixed number of times for each victim, or do they roll a dice? Or do they just run on until they decide that its a success?
I give a person 1 minute to state their case. I give myself 1 minute to refute. If i hear the same argument come back in their next minute, i leave. You cannot talk to a belligerent person.
I am befuddled as to why the victim spent so much time engaging with such an irrational and insulting person. I would have shut the door and called the police as soon as the narc started the verbal abuse.
The footage, as a sigmarta female, i absolutely couldn't live with that nonsense....single and dam glad....but at any given time, we can be the victim of a narcissist.
The world is their stage. The only way to win is to not stoop to their level they will beg, and trick you to get low down and dirty like them, oh and let them lie about it and pretend you did. They don't have one lead, one trail, one drop of evidence, one honest witness, or true alliance because eventually, everyone knows they will throw anyone including their own Mother under the bus. (Yes even after all her contributions to the dramatics, you can't do enough.)
It was weird how the narcisisst repeated the phrase: "Yes, call the Cops!" After the victim said this. OK, so she was randomly copying him at the time. Because her saying that makes no sense in the argument. The narcisisst is possibly perceiving herself mistakenly as the victim, yet again. The victim mocking her seems to work, confusing her, albeit briefly, before becoming challenge fuel again.. This guy never learned that you 'don't talk to crazy'.
So, the narcissist believes their accusations against another person? Is that correct? This is important to me because my former husband would accuse me of prostitution. How I accomplished that with 5 young children at home is a marvel. I thought he was just being cruel, its very frightening to think he believed what he was saying. Thank you.
I couldnt tell who was the narc and who was the victim. Why did he keep arguing with her? After all my study on this subject i honestly cant tell a victim narc.
If i may say, just going to throw it out there, i think 🤔 a narcissist is wicked 🖤 at Heart. I also think 🤔 in some cases can be very dangerous personality's. ...and a vextation to the human spirit and soul.
The footage, as a sigmarta female, i absolutely couldn't live with that nonsense....single and dam glad....but at any given time, we can be the victim of a narcissist.
The Victim gets there eventually, he leaves the interaction but only after becoming angry, anxious and utterly frustrated.
It's one of the toughest lessons I had to learn, empaths especially will seek to explain themselves, respond to false accusations, but it is a pointless exercise with the narcissist. The best course of action is simply to withdraw and end the interaction. It's really tough to do, but it prevents the empath from getting needlessly worked up. HG's ' The Virtues of Keeping Your Mouth Shut' explains this further and is an extremely useful Knowledge Vault purchase that makes a real difference when faced with situations like the one shown here.
A family apartment. Ladies like that like to run whole blocks.i wrote to my local police in the end and apologised on behalf of my local ringleader wasting their time.
Job done.
I got tricked into a triangle loop recently. When I sussed I said. If this continues I'll see a solicitor and the involved parties will be receiving letters if social services or police are dragged in again. Meanwhile. I'll mow my verge when I'm ready. It's too wet.
God they must be itching😅
Luckily not in an apartment.
These people cause others to become ill.
Enough to drive one to drink.
@@Geeronimo99 Apartments have to be worse as a result of close proximity but if you live in a house on a subdivision then you encounter the HOA. Another narc honey pot. I've heard some crazy stories about HOA interference too.
Honestly, the best bet is a house on its own preferably on a hill or even better surrounded by a crocodile infested moat!
Emily Dickinson was onto something. Reclusiveness is underrated.
Yes. Sadly considered a criminal act😮
I like her description of bees...buccaneers of buzz...
Hard to watch - what is worse is that there are so many people like this - neighbours, workmates, relations -----why give them energy oh? Weren't both just as bad but for different reasons?
These are the best Tudor videos.
/popcorn
Absolutely. The information and analysis is invaluable.
F TOW!
Especially noteworthy for me is the insight that "the pursuit of the Prime Aims is axiomatic to" understanding the wide-ranging behaviors of narcissists, and, thankfully, the salubrity for victims.
Worst financial decision l ever made was purchasing an apartment. The body corporates are riddled with committee member narcissists. Absolute nightmare.
I moved into this apartment over a year ago and it too from lower management to their leasing commitee and corporate office is infested with narcissisists and antisocials. I have severe physical disabilites and two months after moving in requested an accommodation for a reserved parking, because the parking situation is extemely bad for which mananger responded to move if I didn't like it. A month later was threatened to triangulate another person and given a six month violation (filled with lies) for asking a question about a filter. Over a month later sent a notice with an unexplained charge, then two days later another notice with another extortion charge and threat of eviction if not paid, so when I called to ask what all that was about and he was challenged for not knowing or even given an explanation, his response was they charged for notices, word salad, and to call me fuckening crazy and hang up. Mid March 2023, a written request with proof of delivery was given to them for which they destroyed and denied receiving and up until this very day they have continued to discrimininate and be bias, disparaging, dismissive, lying, gaslighting, contradicting themselves, stonewalling and being passive aggressive by ignoring my emails. They've also retaliated by denying other services/concerns and sabotaging my chances of getting into two other places, while even going as far as to get the on site (lived in building next to mine) wife abusing (even that has been video recorded) psychopath maintenance to participate through passive aggressive actions (harassment, stalking and intentionally damaging my property and trying to ram his car into my truck door while open. All this and more has been video recorded, while a cease and desist warning was ignored until they were told a civil restraining order was being filed against him and the cowards made him disappear. They always believe themselves to be above the law and for this reason a complaint was filed with HUD and DOJ for which is now under investigation. I recently found an online review site of former employees for which one stated they are abusive and always badly slandering the tenants and a former property manager stated that they seem to only look for and hire a "certain type" for which for which my response is that is of course they do, narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths.
The only noise i get in the morning is the birds [eagle's etc ] made friends with an eagle 🦅 family....[ Amazing wing spans ] 😊❤
Hello HG❤ your my hero 👏👏👏
Since I watched one of your older videos where you say that this is a defense mechanism, there’s a part of me that feels sorry for people with this disorder. The strategies involved, the fussing and fighting must be tiring.
I feel sorry for that woman.s little girl.
@@Geeronimo99 , yeah. Sadly there’s no reaching that raging abuse. No logic can talk it down. Hope that kid can escape it as soon as possible.
@must be tiring. In my experience they have an unusual energy.
I don't feel sorry for them in the slightest. They are evil
Genetic predisposition plus growing up in a lack of control environment..
They never "individuated" from their mother, they did not make object relations or object constancy, like a baby, everything is good or evil to them..
Feel sorry- from a distance, GOSO
The quick 'change' of the narcissist's facade when a third person enters the same immediate environment (LOCE for some people) was one aspect of the narcissist's behaviour that I could never understand until finding HG's work. It is somewhat entertaining for me to observe this in an environment that I did not know, with people I did not know where the narcissist appeared to "behave" themselves in front of their boss who was dealing with a client, whereas on a previous occasion that narcissist was really asserting control over the client. HG's work is fascinating ! Thank you 🤍
So true….. flick of the switch… on and off … exactly 👍
I think 🤔 one of the hardest behaviours of a narcissist, to cope with, is the gas lighting, and mind games. 😢
You’re my daily pill HG! Your new fan and subscriber here! Hilsen! 😊
Yes. It gives one strength to resist the narcs. And not sell up and go...
@@Geeronimo99 thank you! It’s not easy journey but I’m glad to find this channel 🙏
My favourite type of video on this channel 😊
My favorite study, character acquisition. Like being around some one with an accent and all of a sudden it's out of your mouth. Although this whole personality, taken or given, is soo much scarier.
Mr. Tudor, we need to know more about the creature 😮
Thanks HG, your breakdown as you diagnose at the end is priceless.
Thank-you H.G. I really appreciate that you explained her school & cadre at the end. While I do like to try & work it out for myself with such videos, it's useful to have it confirmed or to see where I'm going wrong with your excellent & informative explanations. The most striking thing I noticed with this woman, was the low threshold on her ignited fury. Poor neighbours.
I have been there though … not anymore… 🥴👍😳
Thank again HG❤
Thankyou HG.❤️🌻
I would have gone by now…. 😂😂😂
It's frustrating that the victim seems to need to 'nullify the the threat to control' that the narcissist appears to present, rather than shutting the door early on and ringing the cops if she continued to yell outside his door. I hope I'm only seeing a stressor.
Hello H.G.💫
This is like taking a walk down memory lane, Norman Rockwell missed out painting this flashback.
Folks, ive been there ..done it...got the t,shirt 👕 but there is escape...as H.G. describes....😊
So control is badgering and she is superior 😂 insane how she doesn’t see her lunacy
The walking back and forth…. I find it funny now… walk away…
How do they know when the victim is completely under control? Do they have to assert control a fixed number of times for each victim, or do they roll a dice? Or do they just run on until they decide that its a success?
I give a person 1 minute to state their case. I give myself 1 minute to refute. If i hear the same argument come back in their next minute, i leave. You cannot talk to a belligerent person.
Best way to be. Control your response ses - do not react
I love living in the country and also in my quiet cabin upnorth...only one neighbor to avoid.
I am befuddled as to why the victim spent so much time engaging with such an irrational and insulting person. I would have shut the door and called the police as soon as the narc started the verbal abuse.
It would be better to keep the door closed. Better for the child. Better for the neighbors. Better for all.
God, I hate renting an apartment 😢
The footage, as a sigmarta female, i absolutely couldn't live with that nonsense....single and dam glad....but at any given time, we can be the victim of a narcissist.
The world is their stage. The only way to win is to not stoop to their level they will beg, and trick you to get low down and dirty like them, oh and let them lie about it and pretend you did. They don't have one lead, one trail, one drop of evidence, one honest witness, or true alliance because eventually, everyone knows they will throw anyone including their own Mother under the bus. (Yes even after all her contributions to the dramatics, you can't do enough.)
It was weird how the narcisisst repeated the phrase: "Yes, call the Cops!" After the victim said this. OK, so she was randomly copying him at the time. Because her saying that makes no sense in the argument. The narcisisst is possibly perceiving herself mistakenly as the victim, yet again. The victim mocking her seems to work, confusing her, albeit briefly, before becoming challenge fuel again..
This guy never learned that you 'don't talk to crazy'.
She is just like my neigbour, similar facial expressions too.
Mine is upper class version. Hidden cameras instead of mobile phone...
Just don't make too much noise and you will be fine
So, the narcissist believes their accusations against another person? Is that correct? This is important to me because my former husband would accuse me of prostitution. How I accomplished that with 5 young children at home is a marvel. I thought he was just being cruel, its very frightening to think he believed what he was saying. Thank you.
Is it an intoxicated lesser?
Yes. Neighbours. Can be a cabal when the region has a big fat spider at the edge of the web.
Once a victim manages to get a narcissist out their life, gone should mean gone, no contact...no texts...notng....is this correct ?
Once you know you go
You get out and you stay out via absolutely no contact
I couldnt tell who was the narc and who was the victim. Why did he keep arguing with her? After all my study on this subject i honestly cant tell a victim narc.
2 narcs
Yes their both narcs
Is my mother on this tape? Kidding. My mom died in 1978.
If i may say, just going to throw it out there, i think 🤔 a narcissist is wicked 🖤 at Heart. I also think 🤔 in some cases can be very dangerous personality's. ...and a vextation to the human spirit and soul.
What she is is exhausting...
Lesser lesser
I can hardly bear this one. Soooo annoying
The footage, as a sigmarta female, i absolutely couldn't live with that nonsense....single and dam glad....but at any given time, we can be the victim of a narcissist.