Konrad Curze could vanish into the shadows and be unseen. Corvus Corax could stand in the middle of an open field in broad daylight staring right at the enemy and be unseen. Bad. Ass.
Corax had the honor of being the only brother that Konrad Curze actually hated. Corax was the opposite of the Night Haunter as far as justice was concerned, sure, but the real reason was more amusing than that. The Night Lords may have been masters of the night, but Corax was the night itself.
I loved the Corax character. He didn't fold under any tragedy or pressure. He wasn't the realm ruling type like Guillaman but I think he knew and became what the true potential of a primarch should be without corruption. I believe he is what the Emperor intended in the long game.
Petty Turbo take note. Not only eschewing honors, not only taking time to preserve the lives of civians as well as his Legion, but also taking direct action when his Legion got used in a sledgehammer fashion. Where as the IVth were so stupid, they just headbutted walls and whined about, never changing tactics, Corax REMOVED the Raven Guard from Horus' command when they were suicided against an armored area to ensure smarter tactics were utilized. Additionally, when dissapointed upon reuniting with his Legion, he didnt kill them at random in decimation, Corax selected the offending parties and sent them off in a predation fleet. And Corax fought for the common man. Absolute unit.
We can also attribute the success of the mark 6 pattern of armor to Corax and the Ravenguard. We wouldn't have our iconic beaky boys without The Beaky Boy. Shoutout to the Ravenguards special ships with their cloaking tech and that one time Corax warp jumped next to an enemy ship just so it would get sucked into the warp unprepared as an f u on his way home.
In my head canon, I like to think that when the Raven Lord seen Sanguinius wings for the first time, Corvus Corax got inspired by them and wamted emulate Sanguinius wings😌
I want a Russ / Corax buddy novel so bad. On the outside they’re so different but they’re the two primarchs that are most pure in their loyalty and fully embrace their purpose without resentment or insecurity. Plus they already like each other (not to mention the fact that Odin’s companions were wolves and ravens). I just love the idea of those two showing up and Magnus and Lorgar shitting themselves. The other detail I’ve always found fascinating is how CC is able to see past the “illusion” the Emperor projects the very first time he saw him. And that he managed to trip Big E up recalling details E thought he’d wiped out. Usually the Emperor or Malcador react pretty badly to these things even from primarchs, but E didn’t seem threatened by CC having this level of power or with him knowing things he’d hidden from the rest of the primarchs. There is so much potential for his character in this era.
This one is a pretty solid case for Corax. Some other vids in this series have been about what some Primarchs had endured- what was done TO them as a basis for greatness. I don’t buy actions by external forces as a singular metric to evaluate that
I would love to see how Corax matches up against the others in duels to the death. For some reason I find myself wishing for Corax vs Fulgrim either before any Warp shenanigans or after with them both being ascended
I just finished Son of the Selenar and you really see how great Sharrowkyn really was, and the true bond he made with his Iron Hand and Salamander buddies.
@@KingCarapace. Ooh I can answer that. Sharrowkyn's story is scattered throughout the Horus Heresy line. I believe his first appearance, chronologically, is in either the short story Kryptos or in the novel Angel Exterminatus. His adventures with the Sisypheum crew continue on in the short story collection Shattered Legions, and ends in Sons of the Selenar. I believe that is all the books he is in (at least the ones I have read/owned) but I may be missing other stories that he is in. If it helps, Graham McNeill is the creator of Sharrowkyn's character, so if he appears in any other books, it is most likely to be in something McNeill wrote.
@@leenan2345 yes thank you I am up to Saturnine atm, I really enjoyed reading about Sharrowkyn. I hope we get some more about him, surely he's still out there.
A successor chapter of the Raven Guard the Raptors seem to embody the best of the Raven Guard. They see the Codex Astartes as an excellent set of guide lines. Honor and Glory are noble notions but a clear victory is much preferred.
Our father Corvus hated Horus before it was cool because he could tell that something was sus about that ego tripping primadona Only Primarch trusted enough by the Emperor to be told about Warp So loyal that nobody even thought of converting him to traitor cause and was slated for extermination alongside Vulkan and Ferus He always fights for mankind, he knows what was lost because of Heresy and will never forgive it (caw caw, Lorgar) And he trusts that his sons would do the right thing even without him (which they did) May the Liberator return to us soon Victorus aut Mortis!!!
💯💯 CC could see right through the smooth talk. Edit: instead of being the guy that decides to be a shit dad because he had a shit dad, CC did the opposite and raised his boys right.
Never thought of it before, but if he was instructed in the primarch project then he would know he has a warp soul within him, that is probably why he was able to ascend to his raven form.
Greatest or not, Corax is definitely in need of more page time and I completely agree he needs more respect and recognition - although after the second beating he gave Lorgar, people have finally started to take more notice and I hope that continues.
A mention about the Emperor using his regent as a puppet to talk to his son when Malcador and Dorn told him even they could not speak to the Emperor if they wanted to. (He was in the webway)
Another thing to add that shows Corax as simply apart from the others. He is the ONLY person, so far as we know, to actually get a glimpse of the Emperor's true physical form, seeing through the Emperor's psychic projection to see the small old man under it all. Corax is not a psyker. So for anyone, much less a non]psyker to break any psychic power of the Emperor is remarkable. Corax is also one of the most balanced. He has emotion for humans. He can fight one on one, in small groups, right up to commanding the RG, Imperial Guard and Titan Legions together as one fighting force. He is a master of special ops warfare of course, but he is extremely good at almost every other mode. I am an RG, sp biased. but simply on what we have seen him do - he knows maybe more than the other, what he was. And he knows how to use his gifts. The definition of the quiet, competent commander.
@kittycats2827 At least we think that's what it was. When Corax first saw the Emperor when he landed, where all the other humans were in awe and kneeling Corax was confused because he saw a small older looking normal human at first. It was only later that he saw the giant golden armored man everyone knew as the Emperor. Corax also remembered the face the Emperor used when he was in his gestation pod - something the Emperor showed surprise that he would remember that. So it very well could be.
I commented on that too because it seems that he was seeing the “real” human form of the Emperor. I believe both Malcador and Big E (and maybe one of the other prepetuals) basically say that he takes whatever form he needs to accomplish his goals.
I just finished watching your video on the Urizen. I thought that there is no way in hell you can make a case for him and at the end of it I had to eat a fair bit of humble pie haha!
I want a Russ / Corax buddy crusade novel so bad. On the outside they’re so different but they’re the two primarchs that are most pure in their loyalty and fully embrace their purpose without resentment and all the angst the others do. Plus they already like each other. I just love the idea of those two and their legions tearing Chaos a new a**hole
I've always loved the Raven guard and their primarch and now I have no doubt that he's the deadliest primarch still alive. His ability to use the warp and not become corrupted. The story of him going after Lorgar in his Daemon prince form and was a juggernaut.
My favourite guy!! I always love it when I get Corax content, we RG fans are SO starved of content because GW has them locked up in a basement apparently. I need them to free him, I have all (or at least most) of the books which follow either Corax or the Raven Guard in general and I desperately need and want more of them. Corax is great. He has so many flaws that I absolutely love picking apart and analysing but somehow he is still so likeable and inspires so much sympathy in me. Gav Thorpe did a stellar job with him in the Horus Heresy line in my opinion. I am slightly biased because I see a lot of myself in both his strengths and his flaws, but I do think he's pretty damn cool. I cannot honestly say I believe he is the greatest primarch (though he is my favourite and one of the greatest in my heart) but he's pretty high up in the rankings if I do my best to be completely non-biased about it.
We sons of the Raven Lord Owe You a Debt Of Honor, Battle Brother Rho! Thank you for your Exemplary Description of why Lord Corax is indeed, The GREATEST PRIMARCH... THE XIXth LEGION OWES YOU A SOLID... YOU WON'T SEE US PAY OUR DUE TO YOU... BUT YOU WILL KNOW WHEN IT HAS BEEN DONE.... "VICTORUS AUT MORTIS"
As someone new to 40k, Corax strikes me as that black sheep awkward type character in the family or a group that is quiet, chill, but secretly a strong dude with moral justice.
He sort of looks that way but in the books he also seems to have genuine relationships with other primarchs. Ironically Horus being the only one he never liked.
Nasturi The first human he ever saw, as well as the highest ranking member of his legion. He embodied the Emperor's dream, humans would rule humans... Astartes are the protectors of humanity.
I did sleep on Corax for a while; don't like the concept but he *is* written very well and genuinely stands apart as a Primarch. Also recommend GrimDarkHalfOff's video on Raven Guard, for any XIX Legion fans
Corax definitely has flaws, because he'd be boring if he didn't. While principled, he's not immune to hypocrisy, especially where dear old Dad is involved (in his defense, Emp's manipulation has a lot to do with that). His perception of justice is uncompromising and rather unforgiving, which isn't a surprise given that he picked it up from (justifiably) angry incarcerated revolutionaries. Like his brothers, he also has a temper, and when he's REALLY pissed off, he gets vengeance-minded tunnel vision that's almost as intractable as the Black Rage. And he is, to put it lightly, awkward with people outside of command situations. Learning fine social skills was not a priority on Prison Revolution Planet, and it shows. Conversations with him are a bit surreal even for other primarchs. That's if you can even get him into a conversation - he can turn invisible, he's not socializing if he doesn't feel like it. The irony of him being overlooked by most of the community is he'd probably prefer it that way. He's also angsty and broody, of course, but that's part of the appeal, imo. Batman isn't popular for nothing, after all. If you're into Corax, you're at least a little into angst. And like, it's not exactly unjustified in his case. The guy's gene-seed flaw is literally terminal depression. When his sons come down with it, they go on suicide missions. Corax just kinda lives with it. And after the conga line of shit that includes the Istvaan massacre and having to put down his own mutant children... yeah, I'd shut myself in a tower and brood for a while, too.
Well Raven Guard have a couple other gene-seed flaws one of the less talked about one is as referred to by the Raven Guard "Going Ash-Blind" is very similar to the Black Rage the Blood Angels deal with. Only real difference is their eyes that are black go white and once afflicted they go to a specific chapter of others who are also afflicted also unlike the Black Rage those Ash-Blind will martyr themselves to complete a mission these individuals are one of the reasons he beat Gullieman in those war games. Another aspect about Raven Guard that is kept secret from all other space marines is what Wraithslipping is (This is their stealth abilities) i do not remember the source so it may not be completely accurate but its thought to be a low level psyker ability unique to the Raven Guard and not all Raven Guard can even use this ability. Its a well kept secret from all other space marines and the imperium as a whole.
@@RoTTRavVe The Sable Brand IS the terminal depression. Instead of rage, it puts them in a state of despair and nihilism. Which, being Space Marines, means they go and kill things even harder because their self-preservation has gone bye-bye. (The good news is that if they survive the suicide mission, they're usually cured. Usually.) Since the primarchs are affected by their geneseed strengths and flaws too, I suspect Corax's perpetual depression is related. He's basically got lowkey Sable Brand 24/7 and he's used to it. Admittedly it's a fan theory, but he makes a lot more sense if you think of it that way. And yep, the wraithslipping is a psyker ability. Those who inherit it, which is very rare, are called the Mor Deythan and are the ONLY ones who get to know about it. It's funny bc most of the Legions have weaknesses they hide from the others, but the Raven Guard also hide their greatest strength, even from themselves.
Correction, I don't think we can argue against that the Emperor also awaited Vulkans return to Terra. Corax and Vulkan ( and maybe Horus) where probably the only of his sons that he had genuine affection for.
As the saying goes "'the squeaky wheel always gets the oil' Of all the whiny 'daddy,look at me' primarchs the big E never had to worry about corax. He was one of those rock solid primarchs. Of all the primarchs that got their 💩 push in at Isstvan The big E gave corax the keys to his secret statch his cellphone code lock.
Finally the primarch that is my favorite. Corvus corax's weapons are his raven lighting claws, raven jet pack wings, his dual plasma or bolter pistols named wrath and justice, a heavy bolter use in the dropsit Massacre and electric lighting whip. His personality is like a freedom fighter at heart. His name in Latin means raven heart. And he had a friend/sister growing up named Nasturi Ephrenia. Victorus Aut Mortis and active The Moritat Protocol brother's..........😶🤫😶🌫️🤍🖤
@@codysing1223 yah I remember that was his during the dropsit massacre, but I'm listing his primary weapons he has listed in the Horus heresy loyalist primarchs book. But I corrected it now.
They're written by Gav Thorpe, and while he has his strengths, deftly handling a subtle and complex character isn't one of them. There are some great scenes, but a lot of far from great ones, and in general his characterization seems to slide around a lot. Granted, he's not an easy guy to get into the head of. Guy Haley rose to the challenge a bit better, imo - he only wrote one Corax story, but I felt like he really captured his vibe and interactions with others.
Yes, yes he is the greatest! Great series! Made me think a lot. I have a higher respect for the some of the heretic Primarchs npw. Even the Night Haunter.
Go a video without throating guilliman..he is not arguably the greatest tactician its literally stated as the lions role amongst the brothers..guilliman is organized and efficient which covers a broad spectrum..seriously man, 1 video plz lol
Yea that is clear as day in the lore when it comes to leading an army no one comes close to the lion, when it comes to leading a world or an empire that is where Guilliman comes into his own.
I want to like Corvus. But the name. I just... the name takes me right out of any serious conversation about Corvus. Same as with Ferrus Manus. Their names are just so terrible that I can't take them seriously without making an actual effort. As for his Greatness... eh. He's not a top-tier Primarch. He's the Second-in-Command type of Primarch. He would be a fantastic second to Guilliman or Dorn - or even Lorgar (who COULD be a Primary if he applied himself - which he could do as a champion of Chaos Undivided, but not the Emperor as Lorgar can wage Holy War on his enemies like none other - but the war needs to be "Holy" in nature.). His Legion WAS a fantastic "second" (to a degree) to Horus before Corvus returned. His role in the Primarchs is as the second fiddle, filling in the gaps where the primary leader is less capable. But he's not good as the Primary. And if you're going to be the Greatest... you have to be a Primary.
Konrad Curze could vanish into the shadows and be unseen.
Corvus Corax could stand in the middle of an open field in broad daylight staring right at the enemy and be unseen.
Bad. Ass.
Corax had the honor of being the only brother that Konrad Curze actually hated. Corax was the opposite of the Night Haunter as far as justice was concerned, sure, but the real reason was more amusing than that. The Night Lords may have been masters of the night, but Corax was the night itself.
Im a simple man. I see Raven Guard content, I like it. We need Corax back asap
Yup.
Yep.
Indeed Brother
I loved the Corax character. He didn't fold under any tragedy or pressure. He wasn't the realm ruling type like Guillaman but I think he knew and became what the true potential of a primarch should be without corruption. I believe he is what the Emperor intended in the long game.
Corax is one of the most underrated primarchs
I mean, he's hunting down Logar in the Warp right now. Taking out one of the main the roots of the Herecy. Hopefully he'll get Erebus too.
I hope when he returns he is wearing Big E's talon and he is holding Erebus's head in it.
Petty Turbo take note.
Not only eschewing honors, not only taking time to preserve the lives of civians as well as his Legion, but also taking direct action when his Legion got used in a sledgehammer fashion.
Where as the IVth were so stupid, they just headbutted walls and whined about, never changing tactics, Corax REMOVED the Raven Guard from Horus' command when they were suicided against an armored area to ensure smarter tactics were utilized.
Additionally, when dissapointed upon reuniting with his Legion, he didnt kill them at random in decimation, Corax selected the offending parties and sent them off in a predation fleet.
And Corax fought for the common man.
Absolute unit.
Personal favorite. May Corvus Corax return sooner than later. With a vengeance! Beaks for life! 😆
I agree, he quickly became my fav.
after unting down the warp lot
Probably the Emperors favorite Primarch, because he reminded him of Leetu. Let the Beaks fly high!
@@Furueru its because he is more like the emp with the warp powers so they can relate
We can also attribute the success of the mark 6 pattern of armor to Corax and the Ravenguard. We wouldn't have our iconic beaky boys without The Beaky Boy. Shoutout to the Ravenguards special ships with their cloaking tech and that one time Corax warp jumped next to an enemy ship just so it would get sucked into the warp unprepared as an f u on his way home.
In my head canon, I like to think that when the Raven Lord seen Sanguinius wings for the first time, Corvus Corax got inspired by them and wamted emulate Sanguinius wings😌
The first axiom of victory is be not where the enemy believes you to be.
The second axiom of victory is be where the enemy does not want you to be
This was the one I've been waiting for~ My boi Corvus!
I want a Russ / Corax buddy novel so bad. On the outside they’re so different but they’re the two primarchs that are most pure in their loyalty and fully embrace their purpose without resentment or insecurity. Plus they already like each other (not to mention the fact that Odin’s companions were wolves and ravens). I just love the idea of those two showing up and Magnus and Lorgar shitting themselves.
The other detail I’ve always found fascinating is how CC is able to see past the “illusion” the Emperor projects the very first time he saw him. And that he managed to trip Big E up recalling details E thought he’d wiped out. Usually the Emperor or Malcador react pretty badly to these things even from primarchs, but E didn’t seem threatened by CC having this level of power or with him knowing things he’d hidden from the rest of the primarchs.
There is so much potential for his character in this era.
This is the best series ever man we'll done. Corax is the best.
This one is a pretty solid case for Corax. Some other vids in this series have been about what some Primarchs had endured- what was done TO them as a basis for greatness. I don’t buy actions by external forces as a singular metric to evaluate that
My personal favorite. At least for the moment. Always hard to pick a favorite.
I hope we will see his return soon. Even if not as the next Primarch to return, but at least the one after.
I would love to see how Corax matches up against the others in duels to the death. For some reason I find myself wishing for Corax vs Fulgrim either before any Warp shenanigans or after with them both being ascended
This coming from The Wolf Lord himself is a ballsy take :D
He is one of the very best, seems he couldn't catch a break but he was never broken.
One of his best qualities along with his perception.
Yes, all eleven Raven Guard players from the around the Globe will appreciate this video.
Watch your filthy mouth before the raven lord pays you a visit tonight.
And his son Sharrowkyn is bloody awesome too.
I just finished Son of the Selenar and you really see how great Sharrowkyn really was, and the true bond he made with his Iron Hand and Salamander buddies.
@@drunknnirish Hands down one of the best swordsman to have lived. Compelling also. Is that book part of a collection?
I don’t think so but it’s a short one for sure audio was just over four hours.
It’s the story of how he came to be in possession of the magna matter.
@@KingCarapace. Ooh I can answer that. Sharrowkyn's story is scattered throughout the Horus Heresy line. I believe his first appearance, chronologically, is in either the short story Kryptos or in the novel Angel Exterminatus. His adventures with the Sisypheum crew continue on in the short story collection Shattered Legions, and ends in Sons of the Selenar. I believe that is all the books he is in (at least the ones I have read/owned) but I may be missing other stories that he is in. If it helps, Graham McNeill is the creator of Sharrowkyn's character, so if he appears in any other books, it is most likely to be in something McNeill wrote.
@@leenan2345 yes thank you I am up to Saturnine atm, I really enjoyed reading about Sharrowkyn. I hope we get some more about him, surely he's still out there.
Haven't watched a 40k related video in ages. This brought me back in an instant!
A successor chapter of the Raven Guard the Raptors seem to embody the best of the Raven Guard. They see the Codex Astartes as an excellent set of guide lines. Honor and Glory are noble notions but a clear victory is much preferred.
Our father Corvus hated Horus before it was cool because he could tell that something was sus about that ego tripping primadona
Only Primarch trusted enough by the Emperor to be told about Warp
So loyal that nobody even thought of converting him to traitor cause and was slated for extermination alongside Vulkan and Ferus
He always fights for mankind, he knows what was lost because of Heresy and will never forgive it (caw caw, Lorgar)
And he trusts that his sons would do the right thing even without him (which they did)
May the Liberator return to us soon
Victorus aut Mortis!!!
💯💯 CC could see right through the smooth talk.
Edit: instead of being the guy that decides to be a shit dad because he had a shit dad, CC did the opposite and raised his boys right.
Never thought of it before, but if he was instructed in the primarch project then he would know he has a warp soul within him, that is probably why he was able to ascend to his raven form.
Greatest or not, Corax is definitely in need of more page time and I completely agree he needs more respect and recognition - although after the second beating he gave Lorgar, people have finally started to take more notice and I hope that continues.
Too bad Lorgar isn't a great fighter to beging with.
Just pit him against Angron AND Lorgar , and let Erebus pay the bill
A mention about the Emperor using his regent as a puppet to talk to his son when Malcador and Dorn told him even they could not speak to the Emperor if they wanted to.
(He was in the webway)
Love it.
Thanks for putting this together.
Another thing to add that shows Corax as simply apart from the others.
He is the ONLY person, so far as we know, to actually get a glimpse of the Emperor's true physical form, seeing through the Emperor's psychic projection to see the small old man under it all. Corax is not a psyker. So for anyone, much less a non]psyker to break any psychic power of the Emperor is remarkable.
Corax is also one of the most balanced. He has emotion for humans. He can fight one on one, in small groups, right up to commanding the RG, Imperial Guard and Titan Legions together as one fighting force. He is a master of special ops warfare of course, but he is extremely good at almost every other mode.
I am an RG, sp biased. but simply on what we have seen him do - he knows maybe more than the other, what he was. And he knows how to use his gifts. The definition of the quiet, competent commander.
maybe thats why he answered all his questions? i didnt know he could see the emperors true form!
@kittycats2827 At least we think that's what it was. When Corax first saw the Emperor when he landed, where all the other humans were in awe and kneeling Corax was confused because he saw a small older looking normal human at first. It was only later that he saw the giant golden armored man everyone knew as the Emperor. Corax also remembered the face the Emperor used when he was in his gestation pod - something the Emperor showed surprise that he would remember that.
So it very well could be.
I commented on that too because it seems that he was seeing the “real” human form of the Emperor. I believe both Malcador and Big E (and maybe one of the other prepetuals) basically say that he takes whatever form he needs to accomplish his goals.
I love Corax, too bad the authors forgot about him!
Out of sight, out of mind. Just as Corax prefers.
I just finished watching your video on the Urizen. I thought that there is no way in hell you can make a case for him and at the end of it I had to eat a fair bit of humble pie haha!
Corax is my favorite right next to Vulcan and Khan.
My three favourites, too!
I want a Russ / Corax buddy crusade novel so bad. On the outside they’re so different but they’re the two primarchs that are most pure in their loyalty and fully embrace their purpose without resentment and all the angst the others do. Plus they already like each other. I just love the idea of those two and their legions tearing Chaos a new a**hole
I've always loved the Raven guard and their primarch and now I have no doubt that he's the deadliest primarch still alive. His ability to use the warp and not become corrupted. The story of him going after Lorgar in his Daemon prince form and was a juggernaut.
Would love a book from black library on Corvus warp adventures now that he is vengeance incarnate
Maybe have him and Leman Russ join up in the warp and go wrecking everyone’s shit
@@ZachValkyrie Jaghatai Khan could be included as well
My favourite guy!! I always love it when I get Corax content, we RG fans are SO starved of content because GW has them locked up in a basement apparently. I need them to free him, I have all (or at least most) of the books which follow either Corax or the Raven Guard in general and I desperately need and want more of them. Corax is great. He has so many flaws that I absolutely love picking apart and analysing but somehow he is still so likeable and inspires so much sympathy in me. Gav Thorpe did a stellar job with him in the Horus Heresy line in my opinion. I am slightly biased because I see a lot of myself in both his strengths and his flaws, but I do think he's pretty damn cool. I cannot honestly say I believe he is the greatest primarch (though he is my favourite and one of the greatest in my heart) but he's pretty high up in the rankings if I do my best to be completely non-biased about it.
Corax beat G Man the first three times in the simulator. Then never won again
I think the Raven Lord is really cool after the fact. Going deep into the dark and becoming worse than it is epic.
We sons of the Raven Lord Owe You a Debt Of Honor, Battle Brother Rho! Thank you for your
Exemplary Description of why Lord Corax is indeed,
The GREATEST PRIMARCH...
THE XIXth LEGION OWES YOU A SOLID... YOU WON'T SEE US PAY OUR DUE TO YOU... BUT YOU WILL KNOW WHEN IT HAS BEEN
DONE....
"VICTORUS AUT MORTIS"
I kinda like the fact the raven guard dont get much lore... it adds to the mystique one expects from a secretive and shadowy legion
Plays into him and his legions character. Getting the job done, simple as that.
Victorus Aut Mortis.
As someone new to 40k, Corax strikes me as that black sheep awkward type character in the family or a group that is quiet, chill, but secretly a strong dude with moral justice.
He sort of looks that way but in the books he also seems to have genuine relationships with other primarchs. Ironically Horus being the only one he never liked.
Nasturi The first human he ever saw, as well as the highest ranking member of his legion.
He embodied the Emperor's dream, humans would rule humans... Astartes are the protectors of humanity.
Cant wait to make a raven guard in spacemarine 2
I think you summed it up and took corax.All the way to the top three in my book
That's my boy 👏 👏
I did sleep on Corax for a while; don't like the concept but he *is* written very well and genuinely stands apart as a Primarch.
Also recommend GrimDarkHalfOff's video on Raven Guard, for any XIX Legion fans
He and the Lion are my favourites. Need this dude back ASAP!
el Jonson 1. Raven Lord 2
Corax definitely has flaws, because he'd be boring if he didn't. While principled, he's not immune to hypocrisy, especially where dear old Dad is involved (in his defense, Emp's manipulation has a lot to do with that). His perception of justice is uncompromising and rather unforgiving, which isn't a surprise given that he picked it up from (justifiably) angry incarcerated revolutionaries. Like his brothers, he also has a temper, and when he's REALLY pissed off, he gets vengeance-minded tunnel vision that's almost as intractable as the Black Rage.
And he is, to put it lightly, awkward with people outside of command situations. Learning fine social skills was not a priority on Prison Revolution Planet, and it shows. Conversations with him are a bit surreal even for other primarchs. That's if you can even get him into a conversation - he can turn invisible, he's not socializing if he doesn't feel like it. The irony of him being overlooked by most of the community is he'd probably prefer it that way.
He's also angsty and broody, of course, but that's part of the appeal, imo. Batman isn't popular for nothing, after all. If you're into Corax, you're at least a little into angst. And like, it's not exactly unjustified in his case. The guy's gene-seed flaw is literally terminal depression. When his sons come down with it, they go on suicide missions. Corax just kinda lives with it. And after the conga line of shit that includes the Istvaan massacre and having to put down his own mutant children... yeah, I'd shut myself in a tower and brood for a while, too.
Well Raven Guard have a couple other gene-seed flaws one of the less talked about one is as referred to by the Raven Guard "Going Ash-Blind" is very similar to the Black Rage the Blood Angels deal with. Only real difference is their eyes that are black go white and once afflicted they go to a specific chapter of others who are also afflicted also unlike the Black Rage those Ash-Blind will martyr themselves to complete a mission these individuals are one of the reasons he beat Gullieman in those war games.
Another aspect about Raven Guard that is kept secret from all other space marines is what Wraithslipping is (This is their stealth abilities) i do not remember the source so it may not be completely accurate but its thought to be a low level psyker ability unique to the Raven Guard and not all Raven Guard can even use this ability. Its a well kept secret from all other space marines and the imperium as a whole.
@@RoTTRavVe The Sable Brand IS the terminal depression. Instead of rage, it puts them in a state of despair and nihilism. Which, being Space Marines, means they go and kill things even harder because their self-preservation has gone bye-bye. (The good news is that if they survive the suicide mission, they're usually cured. Usually.)
Since the primarchs are affected by their geneseed strengths and flaws too, I suspect Corax's perpetual depression is related. He's basically got lowkey Sable Brand 24/7 and he's used to it. Admittedly it's a fan theory, but he makes a lot more sense if you think of it that way.
And yep, the wraithslipping is a psyker ability. Those who inherit it, which is very rare, are called the Mor Deythan and are the ONLY ones who get to know about it. It's funny bc most of the Legions have weaknesses they hide from the others, but the Raven Guard also hide their greatest strength, even from themselves.
Newer canon also has something called "The Sable Brand" which is where they hear the whispers of the dead and occasionally see them as well.
@@GrrlRiot88 Because of course they do.
@@ceejno7861 Yup, gotta get *all* the goth stereotypes in.
For the Raven Lord!
For the Emperor!
Victorus aut Mortis ⚔️...
Amazing commonality of Sanguineous, Kurze, Apharius & Corax.
Hail the XIX.
Victorus Aut Mortis 🖤
I'm literally Shaking Right now... Birds are really Scary.
Correction, I don't think we can argue against that the Emperor also awaited Vulkans return to Terra. Corax and Vulkan ( and maybe Horus) where probably the only of his sons that he had genuine affection for.
Sanguinius too. I wish I could include Russ but he was Malcadors boy.
The Crow 40k
Yes, my personal favorite goth
I can imagine in the warp Lorgar is having a oh shit moment as fucking STING from the WWE just shows up
AND THEN PROCEEDS TO BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF HIM
Corax literally taught Roboute how to wage using and against urban and guerrilla warfare.
"Corax flies under the radar" well no shit, that's his whole purpose
My favorite!
As the saying goes "'the squeaky wheel always gets the oil' Of all the whiny 'daddy,look at me' primarchs the big E never had to worry about corax. He was one of those rock solid primarchs. Of all the primarchs that got their 💩 push in at Isstvan The big E gave corax the keys to his secret statch his cellphone code lock.
Victorus aut Mortis!!
In the emperor we trust!
Curze and corax are my top favorite
The lion and sanguineous are top 2nd
Yeah boy Corax the truth
Finally the primarch that is my favorite. Corvus corax's weapons are his raven lighting claws, raven jet pack wings, his dual plasma or bolter pistols named wrath and justice, a heavy bolter use in the dropsit Massacre and electric lighting whip. His personality is like a freedom fighter at heart. His name in Latin means raven heart. And he had a friend/sister growing up named Nasturi Ephrenia. Victorus Aut Mortis and active The Moritat Protocol brother's..........😶🤫😶🌫️🤍🖤
Bro... You forgot his Heavy Bolter he used with one hand at the drop-site
@@codysing1223 yah I remember that was his during the dropsit massacre, but I'm listing his primary weapons he has listed in the Horus heresy loyalist primarchs book. But I corrected it now.
@@robertflynn4215 that's my boy
I haven't heard great things about the writing of his HH books. A shame bc he seems like one of the most interesting primarchs.
They're written by Gav Thorpe, and while he has his strengths, deftly handling a subtle and complex character isn't one of them. There are some great scenes, but a lot of far from great ones, and in general his characterization seems to slide around a lot. Granted, he's not an easy guy to get into the head of. Guy Haley rose to the challenge a bit better, imo - he only wrote one Corax story, but I felt like he really captured his vibe and interactions with others.
Dope
Yes, yes he is the greatest! Great series! Made me think a lot. I have a higher respect for the some of the heretic Primarchs npw. Even the Night Haunter.
the GOAT
Bold title 🗿
The fact that this video is only slightly longer than Lorgars is concerning. 😮
Makes no sense they landed for a frontal assult at Istvan.
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no you dont get one chance at war you get multiple but i get what you re trying to say
Greetings fellow bird loverz
Are there any stories involving Daemon Corax?
Lorgar's first words in the story
"That is no Daemon" 🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦
"Shadows of the Past"
@@codysing1223 thx
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nah its konrad
CAW CAW
Jaghatai is the best
Set speed to 1.5
deliverance lost was the last good book before Horus heresy became a bloated mass of filler m
And yet he's barely useful to the Loyalist. Heck, even locked in his tower Lorgar is still useful to Chaos Corax, yeah missed opportunities there GW
Go a video without throating guilliman..he is not arguably the greatest tactician its literally stated as the lions role amongst the brothers..guilliman is organized and efficient which covers a broad spectrum..seriously man, 1 video plz lol
Yea that is clear as day in the lore when it comes to leading an army no one comes close to the lion, when it comes to leading a world or an empire that is where Guilliman comes into his own.
I want to like Corvus.
But the name. I just... the name takes me right out of any serious conversation about Corvus. Same as with Ferrus Manus. Their names are just so terrible that I can't take them seriously without making an actual effort.
As for his Greatness... eh. He's not a top-tier Primarch. He's the Second-in-Command type of Primarch. He would be a fantastic second to Guilliman or Dorn - or even Lorgar (who COULD be a Primary if he applied himself - which he could do as a champion of Chaos Undivided, but not the Emperor as Lorgar can wage Holy War on his enemies like none other - but the war needs to be "Holy" in nature.). His Legion WAS a fantastic "second" (to a degree) to Horus before Corvus returned. His role in the Primarchs is as the second fiddle, filling in the gaps where the primary leader is less capable. But he's not good as the Primary.
And if you're going to be the Greatest... you have to be a Primary.