The COMPLETE 2024 Cardo Bluetooth Intercom Lineup Break down
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- It's time to break down the Cardo lineup again, as things have changed since we last spoke about this.
Here's the story from last time - www.motonz.com/cardo-intercom...
if you have any questions, chuck them up in the comments and we will answer as best we can.
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Just wanted to thank you for this video. Exactly what I was looking for as a new rider
Glad I could help!
Thank you so much for this video! It was literaslly exacatly what I wanted to see. Full break down on the difference between each. Time to go get a NEO now.
Mate, a great quick review of the Cardo range. Well done and take a bow. I'm a sena convert to the Cardo Edge and so far I'm very happy with the unit. Oh, and a BIG thumbs 👍 up.
Been looking for a video like this! Thanks man! Definitely subscribing.
Awesome, thank you!
This is a great video, I live in NZ too so thats just awesome.
I've still got the packtalk Black. Didn't realize I've had it for so long. It's not even mentioned in their website anymore... hehehe. Just updated the firmware, hopefully it will continue to work for a few more years... these things ain't cheap.
Bless you my good sir !
Amazing. Thank you.
Amazing video just what i needed 🎉
Glad I could help
Really usefull. Thank you
I love the edge, Harley finally partnered with Cardo. Hands down best Bluetooth com over-all.
thanks !
I‘m getting the Shoei NXR2 and Cardo PackTalk Edge next week. Would you say that the sound quality for music on the Freecom 4x and the PackTalk Edge is the same or is one better than the other? Very nice video btw :)
well the 4x and the edge use the same 40mm jbl speaker so they will sound the same
Great video. I was looking to buy a neo but i ride solo and only want to use it for music and phonecalls. So is the Spirit enough. ?!?. What about the speakers in the HD vs JBL ? is the upgrade worth it ?
Yeah if group riding is not important to you then spirit is all you need. There is a difference between spirit and spirit Hd, I’d get the HD.
Thank you for the video! So helpfull 💪💪💪 i was thinking to buy the spirit DUO because i am really on budget, for me and my partner, do you think we can have a good communication while travelling or it will be difficult to talk to each other?
That should be fine if you’re both on the same bike.
Great breakdown, thanks. Now the new Edge Pro is out, do you think Cardo have a new update/replacement up their sleeve for the Spirit/Freecom lines too?
I double they will do much with the Spirit or Freecom
@@MotoNZ Ah cool, thanks for the reply. 👍
Interesting!
Thanks for the great video and offering to answer questions. I'm keen on the Packtalk Edge. Is the conversation between rider and pillion private? Do other Packtalk users automatically join your 'network' or do they need to be given access or permission to join?
Thank you.
Using packtalk, only people who are paired with you can communicate with you.
You can create a private channel in a group. Set your pillion up as a private press a button and only talk to that one.
thank you for this, this is just what I needed, as a first time buyer its very confusing as to which model to buy, I have a Shoei Neotec 2 and im also looking at the Sena SRL2 which one would you buy, the Sena or the Cardo?
Cardo, hands down.
Thanks for watching!
Great video - thank you. I have a question: are the different bluetooth models compatible with each other? I am looking for a Freecom2x for myself for better audio quality and would get the SpiritHD for my partner, as she does not ride with me that frequently. Would both of them be able to communicate?
Yes, both will connect over the Bluetooth intercom channel.
Fantastic run down. I have a question though, I have mates on Interphone Bluetooth and Mesh 2 but also mates on Cardo DMC and Bluetooth, I really like the quality look of the Cardo units, can I talk on the Cardo to my mates on interphone? I’m lead to believe Interphone and Sena use the same protocol?
You can connect all the brands you have mentioned using Bluetooth intercom. Only Cardo can talk to Cardo via DMC, and only Sena can talk to Sena via mesh.
Fun fact the spirit had had JBL speakers they are programmed differently than the branded JBL speakers as I've been told by our cardo rep
Thanks for the video I have not seen this channel before. I am struggling with what Cardio to get. I ride mostly by myself and love listening to music. I am now started to ride with a small group of friends and we are looking for a set we can all use together what is the biggest choice to price option?
If you have intentions of riding as a group then packtalk edge or neo is the way to go.
@@MotoNZ thank you for you advice much appreciated
Hey Bru, where did you buy the Edge from? in in Christchurch, NZ also what do you use for a phone mount? cheers
CMG stock the Cardo Packtalk Edge in Chch.
I use Quadlock for a phone mount, loads of videos on this channel.
Thanks for watching. 👍
Hi there. Thank you for your videos! We've tried a few other brands of intercom/bluetooth devices. None of them have good to any sound quality whether with intercom between driver and pilion or bluetooth with phone, over 60 km/h (37 miles/h). We're using full faced helmets. Will the Cardo Packtalk Edge work for us? Thanks!
In my experience, Cardo's Packtalk Neo, Edge and Pro offer clear "wideband" audio via DMC, and more than enough volume to use on the open road with or without earplugs.
Which ones will let you record audio?
edge can ithink freecom could doit too
your phone can record audio, are you below 80 IQ?
Thanks for the vid! Do they connect with non cardo users too?
Via Bluetooth? Yes
Can i link with other friends using other brands if i using cardo packtalk? And im in a biker group about 30+ bike bikers,which packtalk to choose custom/neo/edge
The whole Mesh Bluetooth thing is a pain in the behind. 30 riders in one group would be nigh on impossible to create and manage unless you use data and a zoom conference. You can connect Packtalk Bluetooth to almost any other Bluetooth unit. Sena is the stubborn one.
We have a group of 6 with 5 PackTalk units, two of them are on pillions which is a waste, but they bought pairs. I have a Bluetooth on my pillion helmet is fine. Good on a ride being lead rider talking to middle and tail end riders. You’ll always have a diehard that refuses to buy into it.
Only difference between Neo and Edge is the mounting system, Neo clips Edge is magnetic (or is it the other way around. :-P.) I’d avoid Custom it’s cheaper but you pay a subscription for the features you want to install.
If i have 2/3 buddies with Spirit HD, can i connect with them using Packtalk Neo, and keep connection with my phone??
There are 2 Bluetooth device channels and 2 Bluetooth intercom channels. If you need more connections they need to be DMC.
Will the spirit HD provide turn by turn GPS through your phone.?
Yes
I have a question about the edge and Spirit.
Can both the unit communicate between the Edge and Spirit?
Yes, via Bluetooth only.
So, only the packtalk generation can connect to two bluetooth devices? For example one mobilephone and your motorcycle tft (like honda roadsync)?
The Freecom has the ability to connect to 2 devices also.
My Spirit HD connects to Phone and Garmin GPS unit at the same time, however i am not shure, can it connect to other rider in this scenario.
Spirit can connect to 2 devices and 2 Bluetooth intercoms at the same time.
Correction Spirit can connect only to 1 intercom and 2 bluetooth devices.
Do you know if there is a new release coming up, considering the Edge was released 2022? I'm debating whether I should wait for a new release or buy the Edge..
I doubt there will be a significant replacement for the Edge any time soon. Cardo ran the Packtalk Bold for close to 10 years.
Technology is always moving forward, and cardo are releasing updates for their devices as they go, but the fundamental hardware components of the Edge have not advanced that much as yet.
@@MotoNZ Thank you for the quick reply. Much appreciated!
Looks like you have every iPod model ever made on your shelf! You’re missing the 2 Shuffles
@@CMFS101good spotting.
I do have a few shuffles, just not on display.
I’m missing a gen 1 iPod classic though if you know of anyone with one…😂
I'm on the fence between the Edge, Neo and Freecom 4x. My issue with the Edge is that the magnetic mount seems to make it stick out a little too far from the helmet. Can you comment as to whether the Neo sticks out less far than the Edge given it uses the older clicky mount?
The mounts for the Neo and edge are physically identical, apart from the magnets embedded in the edge mount.
Are you worried it will get caught on something? Or thinking it sticks out and will catch the wind?
@@MotoNZ Thanks a mil for the reply!
It's more the latter which I'm thinking of r.e. turbulence at speed - from what I've seen of the Edge so far it seems to be quite bulky, especially in comparison to the likes of the Freecom 4x?
so whats the best choice if im only using for good quality music
Probably any freecom Cardo, because it has 40 mm JBL speakers
Packtalk neo is best one
Can someone explain to me what is meant by “you can only connect to X amount of people”?
Does that mean these don’t work with normal group phone calls?
Each device has a certain number of Bluetooth intercom channels. these are point to point. so if the device has 2 Bluetooth intercom channels, you can only connect to 2 other riders.
If the device has DMC or Mesh, it can talk to up to 15 riders on that one connection.
My biggest question that I cannot find an answer to anywhere: The Neo can connect 15 riders. Do all 15 riders have to also have a neo? Can you connect 5 riders if only 1 person has a neo, and the other 4 have a Freecom4x?
Neo can connect to 15 riders via DMC. Those riders also need to have DMC. So they need to be running Neo or Edge.
Neo does have 2 Bluetooth intercom channels. These are what you would need to use to connect to riders running Freecom.
Should i get the new pro that came out or stick to the edge
That’s a lot of money to spend, I’m not going to tell you to buy it, I’ve not even seen one yet, or any reviews.
I have a question about the edge. When you get a phone call does it cut the other rider off? Can I inform the other rider I’m getting a call or does it disconnect the other rider?
while the phone is ringing you can still talk to the other rider, but as soon as you answer it pauses the dmc group.
We have the Cardo pack talk bold and they won’t let us communicate when a call comes in. Is there something in the settings or did they change that with the edge? We are going to buy new communication devices but want to make sure that I can notify my husband of a call coming in instead of being cut off like we are currently experiencing with the Pack talk bold. Thank you for your previous response.
@@pamflanigan6392 Well the Bold is pretty old tech these days and not getting any further updates, you'll me amazed at the increase in quality when you move to the edge.
Thank you so much! Great video!
With the dmc and Bluetooth connection does that mean it doesn’t matter if other rides have cardo, senna , inset alternative brand here, it will still work as long as theirs operated on dmc/bluetooth as well?
Ide like to know this
Only Cardo can connect to Cardo via DMC. But you can connect to any other brand via Bluetooth
Thanks so much once again! Bloody legend! :D
Do you find a major sound quality difference between Spirit HD and the top tiers? And if so, does this change with the JBL 45mm speaker upgrade? (I‘m mainly interested in music, not intercom)
If it’s just for music the. Buy the spirit HD.
I didn’t notice a massive difference
@@MotoNZ Thank you!
Also I’m in the same dilemma, a colleague of mine bought the Edge and the JBL speakers sounded flat and tinny, fitted to a Shoei GT Air 3, a disappointment given that JBL speakers in my cars and Bluetooth portable systems sound really great. And because my soon to be delivered Africa Twin mandates an intercom I need to buy something just for music and to gain access to all the features that she has on offer.
Hi, I’ve bought the Cardo 4x and had connection issues from day one. I’ve been told by the company reps here in Oz that it is due to bad mobile service. Is this correct?
What is the point of an adventure communication system if it needs mobile reception?
Connection problems between comms units? Or between comms and phone?
@@MotoNZ Between units. Connection to the phones are great! Sorry should’ve made that clearer.
@@ATrailLessTrodden connection between units has nothing to do with phone reception.
reset both to factory settings, ensure both have latest firstware and try again.
@@MotoNZ you’ve already given me more useful info than the Cardo rep in Australia. And that is even having my units with them for two weeks!
What would you pick spirit or hd???
probably just the Spirit... I didnt notice much of a difference moving up to the HD.
I think the helmet makes more difference to the sound than the speakers them selves.
Can cardo spirit connected to my go pro 12 camera via bluetooth? 🤔
Yep. Should be fine
@@MotoNZ thanks for your swift reply. Ride safe!
Oh on god? Entry leevil? And it peers to another device?
Good on ya.... I'm from New Zealand... do you know where that is?
Delete Bluetooth from the title and it’s a pretty good review.
Packtalk mesh and the rest being Bluetooth are like chalk n cheese.
All the devices have both Bluetooth intercom and Bluetooth phone connectivity.
We think Bluetooth in the title is reasonably accurate
@@MotoNZ Add Mesh in the title, it’ll be 100% accurate. 😊
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