The absolute best ever¬ As a teen through the 60s I enjoyed the London club scene but all of us thought The Byrds outstripped the likes of The Beatles and The Stones by miles! Hanging on my wall since the 60s is a signed LP cover of Mr Tambourine Man by the entire group.I obtained this on a visit to Virginia USA back in the day and when l met up with Mick Jagger in Mustique in 1989 he wanted to buy it from me - no way as it is priceless¬ I still listen to them 2 or 3 times a week! As good today as they were over 50 plus years ago
I had the great pleasure of working on an album with Gene Clark on a CD that ultimately became "Firebyrd". He was an absolute sweetheart and i got the chance to know him quite well. The subject of The Byrds was...well, let's just say i learned early on that he did not want to talk about it. Being a huge Byrds fan, I broached the subject once and the look in his eyes instantly changed, reflecting the pain and betrayal he still felt after all those years. I quickly suggested that we go play some music and within minutes that infectious smile was back. We were both battling addiction and stayed clean for the entire project (except for one stop at a cowboy bar in Santa Rosa. after things had gone horribly wrong in the studio that day. Total Jekyll & Hyde personality change after two shots.. I saw him the next day and he said, "Well, that was another brilliant idea.") We finished the album...both clean & sober... and he toured a series of small clubs to promote it. (I had other commitments but I understand he put together a killer band.) He also fell off the wagon and slowly killed himself, destroying what was left of his already damaged body with drugs & alcohol. His pointless death broke my heart. . HIS heart was already broken by his firing from the Byrds and the failure of his first solo album to catch fire commercially. A thick skin is a prerequisite for being in the music business and Gene was one of the nicest, least pretentious human beings I ever met. Being in a hornet's nest of egos like The Byrds must have been a living hell for a sensitive human being like Gene. (Post Script: I had a mercifully brief encounter with Crosby a few years later. What a dick. ).......If you want to hear the clear and present soul of Gene Clarke during the time i worked with him, check out "The Rain Song" ruclips.net/video/WkSEvCYQ8MI/видео.html . Gorgeous vocals.
Well said man...Croz fryed 2 legend bands How McGuinn allowed that to happen only he knows Imagine original lineup minus Croz...Shame Deep down Roger knows man
@@lastnamefirst4035 Crosby has loads of kind words to say about Gene, I saw him commenting on a picture on instagram last week saying how much he missed him. The Byrds had an interesting dynamic over the years, that's for sure, but for every angry quote there's a loving one. Firebyrd was being recorded at about the time Gene had legal issues with the rest of them over his all star 'tribute' lineup that ended up billed as just 'The Byrds'. You can see where there would be animosity there but ultimately they all got it together and performed at the Rock hall of fame thing, months before Gene died. Crosby is pretty open about the fact he's been a monumental dickhead over the years, and still can be. Creative people can be ... pretty mad. He managed to survive, somehow, where Gene and Michael's demons got the better of them. A fascinating band, some of the best music I've ever.goddamn. heard
Great performance and line up, I like Crosby for all his greatness and faults like any human, real cool stuff and the raw as hell Hey Joe jam is amazing imo. Obviously Gene should of been with them to but it was what it was. “Your mother gets high and you don’t know it”
I read these comments about the Byrds performance. People saying their guitars were out of tune , but their harmonies werent , were they ? Mc Guinn and Crosby brought it !! Let me tell you straight up , these Byrds at 75 % were better than most band of the Sixties and that included performing without Gene Clark 🙏🏼 who left a year earlier than Monterey Pops. Peace out ✌🏼
see Robert Crumb's interview on youtube about the San Francisco scene. in the 60s ....it was full of gurus /cults/snobs/and dubious people like manson ,as well as nice people being nice..... still there you go.That's human beings for you.
Crosby's "Narcissism" was very hard to deal with! He followed John Lennon's lead, a lucky man in many ways! He's Taken awful lot for granted his whole life!
Yes...........................I am so happy to have been a part of "The Best" music era. Wow!!!!!! The first time I heard Mr Tambourine Man, I knew this was a timeless song for me. I did not know or realize that it would be a timeless song for millions and millions of others. R Bruce Gasperson, North Carolina....age 74
And here's Roger singing and playing his heart-out, HOPING that Dave's 'stoned-enough' to play-along and sing a harmony. Can you IMAGINE knowing how well the guy can sing when he's sober and rested, but unable to GET him to the gig in that condition...INFURIATING !!!
He looks fine to me (for circa '67). His playing was 'there', and he didn't miss a harmony cue. It's you who's fucked up in your own smug no nothing little revisionist stab at history. Oh, btw, GFY ya squareheaded little dick.
Oh I love 'em but there's a good reason none of their set was included in the Monterey Pop movie and it's mainly down to Crosby. Firstly he seems to be either speeding or coked up - over-singing, missing notes, forgetting lyrics... and secondly, he was too involved with other new pals (Stephen Stills, more drugs) to be focused on his Byrds day job. Unsurprising that the end was near. A shame, one of the greatest groups ever.
Also with all the great material they'd put out of late, why the covers? How about "Thoughts And Words" for instance? "I See You"? "Everybody'd Been Burned" etc.
Actually, they did do "Renaissance Fair" at Monterey Pop. Link to audio of their entire set: ruclips.net/video/caCGIaS77pw/видео.html Unfortunately just audio, no video.
This is where Crosby looked his coolest maybe but he forcibly messed up the beautiful vocal harmonies, at least on Chimes, and trying to sing his way out of a highly durable paper bag on Hey Joe, signalling quite consciously his coming split from the group I guess. In studio they were certainly one of the very best groups America ever produced. No matter, these two guys were on a downward trajectory artistically from here while Gene Clark was quietly, steadily becoming legend. Nice guys sometimes rise to the top and stay there.
I love the performance, but I am a bit disappointed with the set list: at the beginning of that year (1967) they had put out "Younger than yesterday", they had just started working on "Notorious" right before the festival, and in any case they had released "5th Dimension" the year before. Three of the most innovative and influential albums in history right there; they spawned countless experiments in Raga-style stuff, Space-Moog music and the germination of Country-Rock. They could have delivered a killer set of new songs that would have been undoubtedly the talk of the festival, and instead they settled for that bit of an anticlimax: good enough, sure, but knowing what was in store, a slight let-down.....
Spot on. They didn't make the Final Cut of the movie. The performance is dreary and feels two years too old. Crosby's conspiracy theories aside, The Byrds sound old hat compared with what else was being played over the festival. Their version of Hey Joe is absolutely awful. They had so many great other songs under their belt at this time...
Producer Terry Melcher was quoted as saying that Charles Manson was the second-worst person he had met in the music business; when asked who was the worst, Melcher replied, "David Crosby ". That says a lot.
This was the first time the Warren Commission’s findings were challenged in this kind of context so no, it wasn’t something “we don’t already know.” And yeah he hasn’t changed, thank god (edited because the OP seems cool.) There’s no doubt Jim McGuinn was fuming during this performance but you can’t sing those lyrics then be aggravated by your band mate walking the walk. Personally, while respecting Jim he always seemed like a stick in the mud anyway.
Crosby was trying to be "Captain Hippie" that night. That's what they called people trying too hard to be the popular one in the hippie circles and in the movement period.
I've seen a clip on RUclips of Mcguinn talking about Monterey & thinking at the time they were crap! If u look closely at the footage, when Crosby goes on his rant, ( as he always did back then) Mcguinn is pissed off no end! To say the playing is a little loose is an understatement! Lol not that it's bad, just not that good, ( bar band comes to mind!) But they got much better as a live band in later incarnations.
My sympathies to Mr. McGuinn. I played a 12-string Rickenbacker for years. Sounded amazing but it wasn't easy to play. And the tuning issues! If you looked at that guitar the wrong way, it would go out of tune... and an out-of-tune 12 string is a sound most unpleasing to the ears. He did a great job with that guitar, however.
This was the final straw. McGuinn and Hillman fired Crosby shortly after this. Too bad since IMO they were at their peak, but Crosby was too hard to get along with.
@@bradlymiller4936 McGuinn and Hillman were unhappy that Crosby was better during the Springfield set. Now they have reconciled. Croz interacts with fans on Twitter and so does Roger. You'll see a Crosby/McGuinn/Hillman reunion before you set another CSN(&Y) reunion.
I saw this lineup in Portland about a month before the Monterey...loved this band back then and now but they're sound was so bad when I saw them it was a bummer
Hey Joe is grim. But the rest is not as bad as legend has it, and I wonder how the band's fortunes might have changed for the better had their segment been included?
The Byrds did fine after this. Some of their best albums came after Monterrey. The band had a couple of lineup changes but Notorious Byds Bros, Sweetheart of the Rodeo were groundbreaking.
They were at the very top of their game in '67/68. There wasn't a record anywhere that compared to Notorious Byrd Bros. So this makes me kinda sad. The flubbed lyrics and off kilter harmonies here suggest they didn't care whether they saw one more day as a group. The two leaders making the vocal noise, brilliant artists but truly horrendous personalities. The remaining three are the ones I respect and admire to this day: Clarke, Clark and Hillman, for the heart and soul you put into this one of a kind music project, guys, you deserved a much better fate. The nastiness and discord likely contributed to killing two of you.
McGuinn WAS the band. Everyone else wanted to work with McGuinn and kick out the others. Crosby said to McGuinn's mother "Your son baked the cake!" McGuinn's personality was and is sterling. They ALL wanted to work with him until their dying day. Gene told me so. Croby said it publicly for decades. You are very wrong about someone you obviously don't even know.
I do Think that it is nice to see them work on a stage, but I did not have patience to listen too all of this, I mean not because it is bad, but I have heard some songs from the Swedish Radio broad cast and I Think that what was good about The Byrds was like this, for the era they had a broad based sound and some sense for arranging material that was solid in its Construction as priority number one, a sense for trying out to work with refinement in the era that was not so common, Chimes of Freedom is not a song that should be subject to a sound that is more a tour de force sound, the tempo is not good either here, but the album version has a good built up and flow, this version has not and it got on my nerves too much to listen to it to the full extent. the solid arrangements that they put together bit by bit with an effective growth of the dynamic it was made The Byrds stand out within crowd of many Groups from the 60-70s scene. This does not flow like that. I own all of there studio albums and the Sanctuary set of records, My favourite album is Byrds(1973) the favourite song of mine is Born to Rock n Roll, the flow on these performances does not sound byrd like but it is liken to something totally different, this is what I started to thinking about hearing a song like Chimes of Freedom that other wise on the LP has a solid build up and a a pristine sound enveloped with a sincere attitude
Firecriss - agreed; that “lead” on, “Hey Joe,” was downright awful. McGuinn should’ve stayed with the Rickenbacker on that tune. He seems confounded by the wide-ness of the neck and the string-spacing on that Gretsch guitar.
McGuinn has had a vastly greater influence on other guitarists than Stills, who is a fine player (particularly on acoustic), but ultimately just another blues influenced rocker. There's more to lead guitar than pentatonic noodling, and McGuinn has a number of timeless solos to his name.
The Byrds are always gonna be one of my all-time favorite American rock and roll bands and although the original line-up made some great studio recordings and had some breathtakingly beautiful harmonies, they undeniably sucked as a live band. David Crosby was, is and always will be an insufferable douchebag with or without a few grams of Pablo Escobar's finest firmly packed-up good and plentiful in both nostrils, nevertheless I'm still glad that he said what he said about the murder of JFK aka Marilyn Monroe's murderer😉on live national television, regardless. As far as their live music goes though, history has already proven that they would most definitely evolve into a much tighter and exquisitely better band of musicians when they welcomed Clarence White and Gene Parsons into the fold, not to mention John York and then Skip Battin on bass. For what it's worth, that's the configuration that I find myself listening to more often nowadays when I want to hear some really fine jamming and when I want to hear those gorgeous crystalline harmonies and sparkling electric Rickenbacker 12 string, I know that I can still always fall back on the Mr. Tambourine Man and Turn! Turn! Turn! albums anytime, folks. Unsolicited testimonial and besides, I think that maybe I'm dreaming...✌
For me too the Byrds are the best American band ever, but I greatly favour their mid-psriod , the triplet of albums like 5D, Younger than yesterday and The Notorious Byrd brothers. I love the way they mixed psychedelia, free jazz, Indian raga,, Arabic maqam, fledgling country and their trademark harmonies into an unholy experimental stew never bettered or unbeaten....
They had so much creative and inventive skill working for them right thru to the final track of Notorious. And the right producer in Gary Usher to continue onwards for years . But they totally lacked say, REM's spirit of brotherhood. The original "studio bound" Byrds were and still are in the discussion for being the best group America ever produced. I was horrified the first time I heard the first few minutes of Untitled, refusing to believe a group so damn good could turn that embarrassingly bad that quickly. "I gotta go" was my only response to anyone who praised that album or anything subsequent to that album by this "other"group who dared even call themselves The Byrds.
'The mouth that roared'...and ensured the The Byrds were not in the 'Monterey Pop' movie. It's obvious the others are pretty unhappy with him. He looks like he threw himself together at the last minute, yet check out his sartorial splendor and demeanor during his performance with Stills and company. No wonder McGuinn and Hillman fired him.
At this point Crosby was no longer willing to be a second to Roger McGuinn . Even if he didn't get fired he still would have left the band . He knew his destiny lied elsewhere and he found it .
It would have made a much better film if they had all beaten Crosby to death onstage. Drummer Mike Clarke REALLY hated him. They took turns punching him when he would start fistfights with virtually EVERY member of the band AND manager Jim Dickson!
This was a time when musicians raged against the machine. David Crosby may have had his moments when he was difficult but his politics were always straight.
Gene left the band in early '66 to focus on a solo career but in late '67 he came back (after Crosby was fired by the Byrds) but left again after three weeks!!!
I’m confused why Jim would be upset about David’s remarks about the JFK conspiracy. It’s an appropriate lead in for that particular song which is about JFK’s assassination (or at least the Byrds version is). Why was JM so upset about it? Seems perfectly right for the times and a counterculture topic of interest.
The closest Crosby ever came to an "apology" was that he knows he shouldn't have said that (in latter years) and did admit that was not one of his high points but wasn't going to back out.
These guys should have been the biggest hippie band ever but they burnt out before the summer even begun. Sure CSN were a good filler but CSN did not have the musicianship nor the religious scope of the Byrds.
I’m not so sure about the musicianship comment. These guys were replaced on their singles by the Wrecking Crew, except for McGuinn and the vocals. I don’t think we can say that about CSNY.
Nick Costa, to my knowledge, the wrecking crew only ever played on the tambourine Man single, Mcguinn was the only one to play on the single, although they all provided the vocals.
The Byrds went on until about 1972. They evolved to some awesome country music, some of the best I ever heard. CSN had amazing musicianship, Dallas Taylor was a monster on drums
Crosby's back up vocals on "Chimes of Freedom" were so good that they outshined Roger's lead vocals. Strange that I heard a 12-string, but didn't see one. By the time they did "Hey Joe", I was definitely tired of Crosby even though he was a genius. He was pushing the tempo too hard, possibly on coke, and they should've just chosen another song. The JFK comment was probably true, but it made the audience sad--a fine line for artists to walk: Wake people up to atrocities or inspire them with beauty.
What's on display here is the fact that by the time of Monterey, the Byrds music was highly outdated---something that Crosby knew very well, and McGuinn didn't want to admit.
I dare to doubt that very much. With the recording of The Notorious Byrds Brothers on its way, and the follow up by The Sweetheart of the Rodeo-album, I think the Byrds could, in all incarnations, adapt very well to then current musical developments.
@enuma elish Really, well I guess the fact bands like the Beechwood Sparks and many many others are still trying to make albums like that rather challenges that comment. You didn't mention 'sweetheart' but if ever an album was a signpost and a gamechanger that one was it. Post 'Sweetheart' the Byrds became a great live band, and I would acknowledge that Byrdmaniax and Farther Along are pretty crap , but - and I know its all personal opinion- I think your missing how good 'Younger' and 'Notorious' were and still are
I love The Byrds but I think they were stoned except Cris Hillman , the guitars out of tune and McGuinn aufull solo in Hey Joe and Mike Clarke playing nuts. Besides they didn't listen to each other and the sound was a crap...
Well, Hey Joe was a mess. Besides that, I get so pissed when I see editing like this. Every time they cut away from the singer to show another player, that player is not playing that particular part of the song. In other words, they are just using random footage, as if no one will notice.
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The absolute best ever¬ As a teen through the 60s I enjoyed the London club scene but all of us thought The Byrds outstripped the likes of The Beatles and The Stones by miles! Hanging on my wall since the 60s is a signed LP cover of Mr Tambourine Man by the entire group.I obtained this on a visit to Virginia USA back in the day and when l met up with Mick Jagger in Mustique in 1989 he wanted to buy it from me - no way as it is priceless¬ I still listen to them 2 or 3 times a week! As good today as they were over 50 plus years ago
But live they suffered from not delivering at a certain point, I don't see Gene Clark, with harmonies being an important feature.
Oh I meant to say I did see them in '67.
Love them Byrds! absolutely one of a kind band 🎼🎶🎶🎸🎸🎸🥁
I bought a 12 string when I was a kid because of these guys
Priceless!! Thank-you 🎸
I had the great pleasure of working on an album with Gene Clark on a CD that ultimately became "Firebyrd". He was an absolute sweetheart and i got the chance to know him quite well. The subject of The Byrds was...well, let's just say i learned early on that he did not want to talk about it. Being a huge Byrds fan, I broached the subject once and the look in his eyes instantly changed, reflecting the pain and betrayal he still felt after all those years. I quickly suggested that we go play some music and within minutes that infectious smile was back. We were both battling addiction and stayed clean for the entire project (except for one stop at a cowboy bar in Santa Rosa. after things had gone horribly wrong in the studio that day. Total Jekyll & Hyde personality change after two shots.. I saw him the next day and he said, "Well, that was another brilliant idea.") We finished the album...both clean & sober... and he toured a series of small clubs to promote it. (I had other commitments but I understand he put together a killer band.) He also fell off the wagon and slowly killed himself, destroying what was left of his already damaged body with drugs & alcohol. His pointless death broke my heart. . HIS heart was already broken by his firing from the Byrds and the failure of his first solo album to catch fire commercially. A thick skin is a prerequisite for being in the music business and Gene was one of the nicest, least pretentious human beings I ever met. Being in a hornet's nest of egos like The Byrds must have been a living hell for a sensitive human being like Gene. (Post Script: I had a mercifully brief encounter with Crosby a few years later. What a dick. ).......If you want to hear the clear and present soul of Gene Clarke during the time i worked with him, check out "The Rain Song" ruclips.net/video/WkSEvCYQ8MI/видео.html . Gorgeous vocals.
Well said man...Croz fryed 2 legend bands How McGuinn allowed that to happen only he knows Imagine original lineup minus Croz...Shame Deep down Roger knows man
I do want to say that , of the Byrds, only Chris Hillman (and Michael Clarke) were real true friends to Gene Clark.
Gene was not ever fired from the Byrds, sheeeesh
@@lastnamefirst4035 Crosby has loads of kind words to say about Gene, I saw him commenting on a picture on instagram last week saying how much he missed him. The Byrds had an interesting dynamic over the years, that's for sure, but for every angry quote there's a loving one. Firebyrd was being recorded at about the time Gene had legal issues with the rest of them over his all star 'tribute' lineup that ended up billed as just 'The Byrds'. You can see where there would be animosity there but ultimately they all got it together and performed at the Rock hall of fame thing, months before Gene died. Crosby is pretty open about the fact he's been a monumental dickhead over the years, and still can be. Creative people can be ... pretty mad. He managed to survive, somehow, where Gene and Michael's demons got the better of them. A fascinating band, some of the best music I've ever.goddamn. heard
Greg Douglass...I love Firebyrd, what a wonderful album sir!
Great performance and line up, I like Crosby for all his greatness and faults like any human, real cool stuff and the raw as hell Hey Joe jam is amazing imo. Obviously Gene should of been with them to but it was what it was. “Your mother gets high and you don’t know it”
Boy David Crosby can sing like Byrd love him
Crosby fuckes up HEY JOE
The most beautiful sounding band.
I read these comments about the Byrds performance. People saying their guitars were out of tune , but their harmonies werent , were they ? Mc Guinn and Crosby brought it !! Let me tell you straight up , these Byrds at 75 % were better than most band of the Sixties and that included performing without Gene Clark 🙏🏼 who left a year earlier than Monterey Pops. Peace out ✌🏼
Gene Clark was a major loss. But their last two albums of the "classic" line up were remarkable. Rock on.
So glad I love your guys era of music 🎶 🌚🌝🌻
byrdsのライブ映像は貴重だ！こんな映像あったんだな！最高だよ。彼らの演奏を生で聴きたいものだよ。
David Crosbyのファッションもたまらない。
see Robert Crumb's interview on youtube about the San Francisco scene. in the 60s ....it was full of gurus /cults/snobs/and dubious people like manson ,as well as nice people being nice..... still there you go.That's human beings for you.
my favorite band when i was young
Crosby was clearly "starry-eyed and laughing".
He ABSOLUTELY was. 😅
"starry-eyed and laughing": well put! Using that one.
Absolutely at the pinnacle of American rock and roll with CCR and Santana
Well, those bands came about a year later in '68/'69, but yeah, I know what you mean.
genius in action i recall those daze am 70 now still love this kind of tunes when music was music not obscene noise
Goodbye David. Thank you.
Crosby's "Narcissism" was very hard to deal with! He followed John Lennon's lead, a lucky man in many ways! He's Taken awful lot for granted his whole life!
Crosby all coked up🦄
Coke was popular in the 60’s?
@@billjim334 LSD 25
STP also.... look at David's sticker on his guitar.... Mama Cass Warren Paul McCartney when he came to town, about that stuff going around
I miss the sixties. The dawning of the age of Aquarius.
and here we are, entering the age of Aquarius once more as Pisces withers out and falls away
Yes...........................I am so happy to have been a part of "The Best" music era. Wow!!!!!! The first time I heard Mr Tambourine Man, I knew this was a timeless song for me. I did not know or realize that it would be a timeless song for millions and millions of others. R Bruce Gasperson, North Carolina....age 74
So GOOD !!!!!!!!
And here's Roger singing and playing his heart-out, HOPING that Dave's 'stoned-enough' to play-along and sing a harmony. Can you IMAGINE knowing how well the guy can sing when he's sober and rested, but unable to GET him to the gig in that condition...INFURIATING !!!
He looks fine to me (for circa '67). His playing was 'there', and he didn't miss a harmony cue. It's you who's fucked up in your own smug no nothing little revisionist stab at history. Oh, btw, GFY ya squareheaded little dick.
the Lee H Oswald tip is priceless
go fuck yourself
Oh I love 'em but there's a good reason none of their set was included in the Monterey Pop movie and it's mainly down to Crosby. Firstly he seems to be either speeding or coked up - over-singing, missing notes, forgetting lyrics... and secondly, he was too involved with other new pals (Stephen Stills, more drugs) to be focused on his Byrds day job. Unsurprising that the end was near. A shame, one of the greatest groups ever.
Also with all the great material they'd put out of late, why the covers? How about "Thoughts And Words" for instance? "I See You"? "Everybody'd Been Burned" etc.
I thought the same thing. Three tired cover songs. "Renaissance Fair" would have been more appropriate and certainly more original.
Actually, they did do "Renaissance Fair" at Monterey Pop. Link to audio of their entire set: ruclips.net/video/caCGIaS77pw/видео.html
Unfortunately just audio, no video.
Crosby pushed them into doing "Hey Joe", which they were doing live in '65 before any other rock band.
@@THEScottCampbell didnt sound good here. Crosby is shouting it not singing
This is one of the best appearances of David Crosby in my opinion.
Dave Huxley 😂 😂 😂
That is faint praise indeed...
This is where Crosby looked his coolest maybe but he forcibly messed up the beautiful vocal harmonies, at least on Chimes, and trying to sing his way out of a highly durable paper bag on Hey Joe, signalling quite consciously his coming split from the group I guess. In studio they were certainly one of the very best groups America ever produced. No matter, these two guys were on a downward trajectory artistically from here while Gene Clark was quietly, steadily becoming legend. Nice guys sometimes rise to the top and stay there.
I agree Dave !
@@shelleylyme6402 🙄
Dave Crosby...spot on about rfk assassination
the Lee H Oswald tip is priceless Hey Joe unintelligible
How much did Crosby bribe the cameramen to keep the camera on him so much?
Well Hillman looks like he wants to smack him lol.
@@NolalanD - I couldn't blame Hillman.
@@plcustodian exactly
Starry eyed and laughing as I recall when were caught.Now its all legal..
Lee Krick - not everywhere! Still illegal in TX - where I live.
I don't think what he was on has worn off yet...
Crosby, characteristically screaming harmony.
he's damn near sabotaging the band to be honest... shouldve stayed with Buffalo Springfield if that was what he really dug... 🤣
@@kaspafischer When I saw them live in April, '67, he was nothing more than a distraction.
I love the performance, but I am a bit disappointed with the set list: at the beginning of that year (1967) they had put out "Younger than yesterday", they had just started working on "Notorious" right before the festival, and in any case they had released "5th Dimension" the year before. Three of the most innovative and influential albums in history right there; they spawned countless experiments in Raga-style stuff, Space-Moog music and the germination of Country-Rock. They could have delivered a killer set of new songs that would have been undoubtedly the talk of the festival, and instead they settled for that bit of an anticlimax: good enough, sure, but knowing what was in store, a slight let-down.....
Spot on. They didn't make the Final Cut of the movie. The performance is dreary and feels two years too old. Crosby's conspiracy theories aside, The Byrds sound old hat compared with what else was being played over the festival. Their version of Hey Joe is absolutely awful. They had so many great other songs under their belt at this time...
I Love the byrds
Crosby always has to talk as tho he is telling us all something we dont already know. He hasnt changed at all. RIP Croz
Yeah. Pee yew.
Producer Terry Melcher was quoted as saying that Charles Manson was the second-worst person he had met in the music business; when asked who was the worst, Melcher replied, "David Crosby ". That says a lot.
@@451hist I imagine crosby was telling melcher how to produce the record
@@lastnamefirst4035 No doubt.
This was the first time the Warren Commission’s findings were challenged in this kind of context so no, it wasn’t something “we don’t already know.” And yeah he hasn’t changed, thank god (edited because the OP seems cool.) There’s no doubt Jim McGuinn was fuming during this performance but you can’t sing those lyrics then be aggravated by your band mate walking the walk. Personally, while respecting Jim he always seemed like a stick in the mud anyway.
Crosby was trying to be "Captain Hippie" that night.
That's what they called people trying too hard to be the popular one in the hippie circles and in the movement period.
David is the coolest!
I've seen a clip on RUclips of Mcguinn talking about Monterey & thinking at the time they were crap! If u look closely at the footage, when Crosby goes on his rant, ( as he always did back then) Mcguinn is pissed off no end! To say the playing is a little loose is an understatement! Lol not that it's bad, just not that good, ( bar band comes to mind!) But they got much better as a live band in later incarnations.
My sympathies to Mr. McGuinn. I played a 12-string Rickenbacker for years. Sounded amazing but it wasn't easy to play. And the tuning issues! If you looked at that guitar the wrong way, it would go out of tune... and an out-of-tune 12 string is a sound most unpleasing to the ears. He did a great job with that guitar, however.
This was when they started to go downhill.
This was the final straw. McGuinn and Hillman fired Crosby shortly after this. Too bad since IMO they were at their peak, but Crosby was too hard to get along with.
Crosby played with Buffalo Springfield in same concert. Pretty much the last straw with the Byrds and beginning of CSN.
@@bradlymiller4936 McGuinn and Hillman were unhappy that Crosby was better during the Springfield set. Now they have reconciled. Croz interacts with fans on Twitter and so does Roger. You'll see a Crosby/McGuinn/Hillman reunion before you set another CSN(&Y) reunion.
I never knew Crosby had such a overbearing personality until I seen this footage. I Don't blame the Byrd's for kicking his keister to the curb.
@@josephbrowning1167 Watch the documentary on him, he even ADMITS he is a flaming a-hole. Good musician, horrible person, and obnoxious as well.
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Crosby was a real jerk. Gene Clark quit the Byrds because of Crosby and his bullying.
I saw this lineup in Portland about a month before the Monterey...loved this band back then and now but they're sound was so bad when I saw them it was a bummer
I love David Crosby! Everything he said was true
The TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gonna blow our minds with Why, 5d, RnR Star, Wild Mountain Thyme? No!!! He Was a Friend of Mine. This is as atrocious as 5d is magnificent.
The Byrds are remarkable. One of the best. The reference to JFK's murder is to be ignored, IMO.
Hey Joe is grim. But the rest is not as bad as legend has it, and I wonder how the band's fortunes might have changed for the better had their segment been included?
I kind of like it. Raw and an out of control guitar on the edge of feeding back. @@derkommissar785
The Byrds did fine after this. Some of their best albums came after Monterrey. The band had a couple of lineup changes but Notorious Byds Bros, Sweetheart of the Rodeo were groundbreaking.
Ótimo !!
They were at the very top of their game in '67/68. There wasn't a record anywhere that compared to Notorious Byrd Bros. So this makes me kinda sad. The flubbed lyrics and off kilter harmonies here suggest they didn't care whether they saw one more day as a group. The two leaders making the vocal noise, brilliant artists but truly horrendous personalities. The remaining three are the ones I respect and admire to this day: Clarke, Clark and Hillman, for the heart and soul you put into this one of a kind music project, guys, you deserved a much better fate. The nastiness and discord likely contributed to killing two of you.
McGuinn WAS the band. Everyone else wanted to work with McGuinn and kick out the others. Crosby said to McGuinn's mother "Your son baked the cake!" McGuinn's personality was and is sterling. They ALL wanted to work with him until their dying day. Gene told me so. Croby said it publicly for decades. You are very wrong about someone you obviously don't even know.
read jimi seiters books the byrds my way...great
Where was Gene Clarke?
He quit the Byrds almost 2 years before this.
What David Crosby said at about 4:00 about JFK almost knocked me out of my chair! Never knew DC held that position?
50gary, he is a conspiracy theorist.
He's a moron. Great talent, but a moron. He even admits now that he has always been a bad person.
I do Think that it is nice to see them work on a stage, but I did not have patience to listen too all of this, I mean not because it is bad, but I have heard some songs from the Swedish Radio broad cast and I Think that what was good about The Byrds was like this, for the era they had a broad based sound and some sense for arranging material that was solid in its Construction as priority number one, a sense for trying out to work with refinement in the era that was not so common, Chimes of Freedom is not a song that should be subject to a sound that is more a tour de force sound, the tempo is not good either here, but the album version has a good built up and flow, this version has not and it got on my nerves too much to listen to it to the full extent. the solid arrangements that they put together bit by bit with an effective growth of the dynamic it was made The Byrds stand out within crowd of many Groups from the 60-70s scene. This does not flow like that. I own all of there studio albums and the Sanctuary set of records, My favourite album is Byrds(1973) the favourite song of mine is Born to Rock n Roll, the flow on these performances does not sound byrd like but it is liken to something totally different, this is what I started to thinking about hearing a song like Chimes of Freedom that other wise on the LP has a solid build up and a a pristine sound enveloped with a sincere attitude
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You really can't blame The Byrds for replacing Crosby with a horse.
First time I'd ever seen McGuinn with anything other than a Rickenbacker in his hands.
RIP David
"Your folk playing guitar player can't play lead and you know it!!"
Firecriss - agreed; that “lead” on, “Hey Joe,” was downright awful. McGuinn should’ve stayed with the Rickenbacker on that tune. He seems confounded by the wide-ness of the neck and the string-spacing on that Gretsch guitar.
McGuinn has had a vastly greater influence on other guitarists than Stills, who is a fine player (particularly on acoustic), but ultimately just another blues influenced rocker. There's more to lead guitar than pentatonic noodling, and McGuinn has a number of timeless solos to his name.
The Byrds are always gonna be one of my all-time favorite American rock and roll bands and although the original line-up made some great studio recordings and had some breathtakingly beautiful harmonies, they undeniably sucked as a live band. David Crosby was, is and always will be an insufferable douchebag with or without a few grams of Pablo Escobar's finest firmly packed-up good and plentiful in both nostrils, nevertheless I'm still glad that he said what he said about the murder of JFK aka Marilyn Monroe's murderer😉on live national television, regardless. As far as their live music goes though, history has already proven that they would most definitely evolve into a much tighter and exquisitely better band of musicians when they welcomed Clarence White and Gene Parsons into the fold, not to mention John York and then Skip Battin on bass. For what it's worth, that's the configuration that I find myself listening to more often nowadays when I want to hear some really fine jamming and when I want to hear those gorgeous crystalline harmonies and sparkling electric Rickenbacker 12 string, I know that I can still always fall back on the Mr. Tambourine Man and Turn! Turn! Turn! albums anytime, folks. Unsolicited testimonial and besides, I think that maybe I'm dreaming...✌
For me too the Byrds are the best American band ever, but I greatly favour their mid-psriod , the triplet of albums like 5D, Younger than yesterday and The Notorious Byrd brothers. I love the way they mixed psychedelia, free jazz, Indian raga,, Arabic maqam, fledgling country and their trademark harmonies into an unholy experimental stew never bettered or unbeaten....
In my opinion there was never a bad era of the Byrds.
As tho we needed him to inform us?
They had so much creative and inventive skill working for them right thru to the final track of Notorious. And the right producer in Gary Usher to continue onwards for years . But they totally lacked say, REM's spirit of brotherhood. The original "studio bound" Byrds were and still are in the discussion for being the best group America ever produced. I was horrified the first time I heard the first few minutes of Untitled, refusing to believe a group so damn good could turn that embarrassingly bad that quickly. "I gotta go" was my only response to anyone who praised that album or anything subsequent to that album by this "other"group who dared even call themselves The Byrds.
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You're a hater!!
RIP David Crosby
Dylan. Go David even twitter still today.
Christ David I live in Nebraska and don't wear a hat like that in January and this was in June in fucking Montery.
That's because your hair probably grows out of you head as more than just a fringe like Bozo The Clown (high on cocaine).
June in Monterey can be downright cool. It is on the Pacific Ocean with its deep-water upwelling.
This performance was much maligned but it really isn't that bad....though Crosby was annoying lol
'The mouth that roared'...and ensured the The Byrds were not in the 'Monterey Pop' movie. It's obvious the others are pretty unhappy with him. He looks like he threw himself together at the last minute, yet check out his sartorial splendor and demeanor during his performance with Stills and company. No wonder McGuinn and Hillman fired him.
At this point Crosby was no longer willing to be a second to Roger McGuinn . Even if he didn't get fired he still would have left the band . He knew his destiny lied elsewhere and he found it .
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It would have made a much better film if they had all beaten Crosby to death onstage. Drummer Mike Clarke REALLY hated him. They took turns punching him when he would start fistfights with virtually EVERY member of the band AND manager Jim Dickson!
This was a time when musicians raged against the machine. David Crosby may have had his moments when he was difficult but his politics were always straight.
Crosby's historic moment.
Wheres Gene?
Gene left the band in early '66 to focus on a solo career but in late '67 he came back (after Crosby was fired by the Byrds) but left again after three weeks!!!
Up your ass 😂
David Crosby RIP
W starym dobrym stylu...
Can you say "you weren't there man"?
Хорошая музыка. Только барабанщика жаль. .......
I’m confused why Jim would be upset about David’s remarks about the JFK conspiracy. It’s an appropriate lead in for that particular song which is about JFK’s assassination (or at least the Byrds version is). Why was JM so upset about it? Seems perfectly right for the times and a counterculture topic of interest.
I guess Crosby would like to take that rant back.
I doubt it.
The closest Crosby ever came to an "apology" was that he knows he shouldn't have said that (in latter years) and did admit that was not one of his high points but wasn't going to back out.
judging by his instagram page, i doubt it
Ron Homolka - why would/should he?
Aguante CROSBY. Caretas!!
These guys should have been the biggest hippie band ever but they burnt out before the summer even begun. Sure CSN were a good filler but CSN did not have the musicianship nor the religious scope of the Byrds.
Amen. Is a tragedy the Byrds splintered when they did, would love to have heard McQuinn's guitar on say Guinnevere...
I’m not so sure about the musicianship comment. These guys were replaced on their singles by the Wrecking Crew, except for McGuinn and the vocals. I don’t think we can say that about CSNY.
Nick Costa, to my knowledge, the wrecking crew only ever played on the tambourine Man single, Mcguinn was the only one to play on the single, although they all provided the vocals.
The Byrds went on until about 1972. They evolved to some awesome country music, some of the best I ever heard. CSN had amazing musicianship, Dallas Taylor was a monster on drums
Wrecking crew played on I think 2 only the rest of it was The Byrd’s
Crosby was one of the biggest berks of the era (second only to Eric Burdon) 😞
Yes, apparently when Crosby first saw the cover of The Notorious Byrd Brothers he recognized himself straight away as the horse 😄
Whats a berk?
Crosby on JFK, haha.
3:42 the reason Crosby got fired from the Byrds
I like Crosby , but yeah , he was coked and obnoxious here .
STP ???????
Oh that wasn't coke... He was flying high on RC cola mixed with Pepsi...
Why does he want sloppy seconds before he kills her? :O
Man Crosby is fucked up in this video.
He thought he was being brilliant. Cocaine does that to people.
he was on STP [DOM] that day.
Its actually LSD he was on.
partying with Grace Slick probably
I'm amazed that he lasted as long as he did in the band.
Crosby's back up vocals on "Chimes of Freedom" were so good that they outshined Roger's lead vocals. Strange that I heard a 12-string, but didn't see one. By the time they did "Hey Joe", I was definitely tired of Crosby even though he was a genius. He was pushing the tempo too hard, possibly on coke, and they should've just chosen another song. The JFK comment was probably true, but it made the audience sad--a fine line for artists to walk: Wake people up to atrocities or inspire them with beauty.
What's on display here is the fact that by the time of Monterey, the Byrds music was highly outdated---something that Crosby knew very well, and McGuinn didn't want to admit.
Firecriss ... rubbish! 8 miles high is still one the greatest ever!
I dare to doubt that very much. With the recording of The Notorious Byrds Brothers on its way, and the follow up by The Sweetheart of the Rodeo-album, I think the Byrds could, in all incarnations, adapt very well to then current musical developments.
Do you know anything about the Byrds or music? I for one doubt it.
Mcguinn made a business decision to keep the Byrds name with 3 hired hands instead of starting from scratch!
@enuma elish Really, well I guess the fact bands like the Beechwood Sparks and many many others are still trying to make albums like that rather challenges that comment. You didn't mention 'sweetheart' but if ever an album was a signpost and a gamechanger that one was it. Post 'Sweetheart' the Byrds became a great live band, and I would acknowledge that Byrdmaniax and Farther Along are pretty crap , but - and I know its all personal opinion- I think your missing how good 'Younger' and 'Notorious' were and still are
waar is roger ?
Love Crosby's preachin
Crosby........... self indulgent, and bullied Gene Clark out.
I didn't realize that David Crosby was the re incarnation of Bill Hickock until just now.
Yeah, watching him made me want to punch him on his jaw
Man could he harmonize.
Craig Anderson Definitely a resemblance. lol
Gene Clark should have manned up and put total beatdown on little David and told him No YOU'RE OUT, not me !
HUGE respect for Crosby for speaking the truth on a challenging issue!
Gene Clark return for a few weeks after that
Mama Cass looks weird with a mustache and fur hat! Or is that Crabsy? Cass would have remembered the lyrics better and sung the harmonies better.
I actually laughed out loud at your comment. (And, by the way, so true!)
I love The Byrds but I think they were stoned except Cris Hillman , the guitars out of tune and McGuinn aufull solo in Hey Joe and Mike Clarke playing nuts.
Besides they didn't listen to each other and the sound was a crap...
To be fair, I think most participants spent most of this weekend cooked.
I think it took a lot of guys for Crosby to say that.
@Isabel Beckerman - McGuinn is good about doing that - deflecting. Pretty sure Crosby knew exactly what he was doing/saying.
That was a decent set by The Byrds' standards, but by Christ, that David Crosby was a sanctimonious twit.
Roger messed up the solo to Hey Joe though... was it intentional though? 🤣
Good performance overall, but I can't take David Crosby here seriously.
The first song has guitar like Hey Mr. Tambourine Man.
Btw, nobody ever really liked Crosby, with good reason, from what I have read.
Miss the harmonies with Gene, he was a much better singer than Crosby and McGuinn.
Gene leaving was a huge bummer Bet he felt a whole lot better getting away from clown Croz
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2/3 of these people dropped dead from drug overdoses by the end of the 1960s. 😁
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God Crosby butchered hey joe
Well, Hey Joe was a mess. Besides that, I get so pissed when I see editing like this. Every time they cut away from the singer to show another player, that player is not playing that particular part of the song. In other words, they are just using random footage, as if no one will notice.
Crosby at 3:36 was woke.
Still is now. On instagram he whines about the president all day every day. I can't help but agree with Nash; this guy is a fucking asshole.
Hey Joe awful. Cringe at Crosby, no wonder they binned him. Chimes of Freedom and HWAFOM both great