The Tamale Wars

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 15 июн 2024
  • Though they might not be the king of street food today, a hundred years ago Tamales dominated street corners, with tamale vendors becoming so popular that turf wars broke out. Though it was briefly impossible to avoid tamaleros, they vanished almost as quickly as they came. The history of the “Tamale Wars” is history that deserves to be remembered.
    This is original content based on research by The History Guy. Images in the Public Domain are carefully selected and provide illustration. As very few images of the actual event are available in the Public Domain, images of similar objects and events are used for illustration.
    You can purchase the bow tie worn in this episode at The Tie Bar:
    www.thetiebar.com/?...
    All events are portrayed in historical context and for educational purposes. No images or content are primarily intended to shock and disgust. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Non censuram.
    Find The History Guy at:
    Facebook: / thehistoryguyyt
    Patreon: / thehistoryguy
    Please send suggestions for future episodes: Suggestions@TheHistoryGuy.net
    The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered is the place to find short snippets of forgotten history from five to fifteen minutes long. If you like history too, this is the channel for you.
    Subscribe for more forgotten history: / @thehistoryguychannel .
    Awesome The History Guy merchandise is available at:
    teespring.com/stores/the-hist...
    Script by JCG
    #history #thehistoryguy #tamales

Комментарии • 997

  • @harryshriver6223
    @harryshriver6223 3 года назад +424

    I will never take my mother's tamales for granted, she is close to 80 and still makes them by hand. Gracias a Dios!

    • @BELCAN57
      @BELCAN57 3 года назад +32

      For goodness sake get her recipe and have her show you how to make them.

    • @erictroxell715
      @erictroxell715 3 года назад +13

      @@BELCAN57 amen sir!!!. My momma taught me how to cook n clean out of necessity (she had horrific arthritis in her hands and could barely use her hands without pain). There are a few recipes she never wrote down that I can't duplicate it drives me nuts.

    • @glasair38sr
      @glasair38sr 3 года назад +10

      And after she shows you, feel free to pass it on!

    • @charlesmills6621
      @charlesmills6621 3 года назад +13

      Harry;
      You are a fortunate man to have home-made tamales.

    • @lisahinton9682
      @lisahinton9682 3 года назад +5

      @@erictroxell715
      Don't give up! Are there any friends or relatives of hers that are still here? You might be able to get some clue or another.
      I got that missing something-something from a then-neighbor about one of my mom's recipes. I tracked her down and called and she told me, "Oh, everyone on our street put a tiny bit of freshly-ground nutmeg in spaghetti sauce back then! It was the thing to do!" Sure enough, adding that ingredient in brought back a taste memory of my mom's spaghetti sauce from the 1970s. Plus, it was fun chatting with this now older lady from way back.
      So if there's anyone you might could still talk to, maybe think about asking that person. You never know!

  • @lonestar1637
    @lonestar1637 3 года назад +39

    Even in pandemic times, we Texans will buy tamales from a "tamale lady" without batting an eye❤️❤️

    • @tomtheplummer7322
      @tomtheplummer7322 Год назад

      Yet so yummy. tacos and burritos

    • @rosameryrojas-delcerro1059
      @rosameryrojas-delcerro1059 11 месяцев назад

      And then Texans assume the tamalera is here illegally and call ICE. And the dude who brought my surname here came to the modern US in the 1760s (other branches even earlier) so don't tell me to swim back where I came from unless you want to go first.

  • @russell28533
    @russell28533 3 года назад +53

    "I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them." - Andrew Bernard

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 3 года назад +4

      I’ve actually said that to a couple kids! “You know, to you THIS will be ‘the good ol’ days’!”

    • @johnwright6139
      @johnwright6139 3 года назад +1

      Right now!

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 3 года назад +1

      @@johnwright6139 You got that right...

  • @Aramis419
    @Aramis419 3 года назад +166

    As the Doctor once said, “we’re all stories, in the end. Make sure yours is a good one.”

    • @Mrfrenchdeux
      @Mrfrenchdeux 3 года назад

      Not.

    • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
      @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 3 года назад

      what about this one from an entertainer who said always leave them wanting more.

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 3 года назад +2

      Nothing so delicious as a tasty story!

    • @VyvienneEaux
      @VyvienneEaux 3 года назад

      Dr. Johnson?

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 3 года назад +3

      @@VyvienneEaux , Doctor Who; but you probably already knew that.

  • @hoodagooboy5981
    @hoodagooboy5981 3 года назад +76

    I grew up eating Hormel canned Beef Tamales, then in my late teens I had some at an authentic Mexican restaurant. I was like "so THATS what they are suppose to taste like!" I never went back to the Hormel ones.

    • @mawlinzebra
      @mawlinzebra 3 года назад +3

      I never would have known they sell canned tamales if you hadn't mentioned it. It's kinda hard to imagine to be honest

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 3 года назад +2

      Those Hormel jobs are based on Louisiana hot tamales, not on Mexican tamales. LA hot tamales use plain cornmeal not masa, and they are simmered in spicy broth not steamed, they came from a migrant recipe adaptation in upper LA and lower AR, maybe some of MS.(They didn't have a convenient source of masa.) Still, canned are not as good.

    • @juresichj
      @juresichj 3 года назад

      @@mawlinzebra I used to eat them all the time. They fit in my budget, and I didn't know any better.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 года назад +2

      @@juresichj I don’t hate canned tamales. I wouldn’t eat them if fresh tamales were available (luckily they are abundant where I live), but if there was no other way to get tamales . . .

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 года назад

      @@mytech6779 I’m curious as to where the LA tamales originated. Was this a later local modification of tamales from further south, or an original indigenous variety?

  • @ahuddleston6512
    @ahuddleston6512 3 года назад +128

    My mom used to make fresh tamales to sell at work and she'd sell out in seconds.

    • @AxleChastain
      @AxleChastain 3 года назад +2

      There is a old couple down the road from me who sells fresh n hot tamales in a parking lot. Have been for almost 20 years now. They are so good.

  • @AliasUndercover
    @AliasUndercover 3 года назад +93

    In Houston they never went away. I can still get tamales from a little abuelita selling them on the street in the right parts of town. There's nothing better.

    • @laidbackeasttexan
      @laidbackeasttexan 3 года назад +4

      Every time I work down in the Rio Grande Valley I always bring some Tamales back with me. I work all over and I’d say they have the best. Houston are is a strong number two though

    • @roverworld7218
      @roverworld7218 3 года назад +5

      @@laidbackeasttexan I agree I lived in the RGV and Mexico and the denizens of the RGV really love tamales.
      They can give the neighbors next door a run for their money. Better than Monterrey's in my opinion.
      Mexico City tamales are supergood and have an amazing variety of flavors and colors (yes colors, and not from vegetable coloring, they use fruit juice or rose water to color sweet tamales).
      And in Merida next to a famous bakery in Paseo Montejo by the Monument to the Flag rotunda called Panaderia Montejo there was an enclave of older Mayan ladies chatting in Yucatec Mayan as they sold you banana leaf tamales.

    • @docwil2541
      @docwil2541 3 года назад

      Tamales, blackeye peas and cornbread on new year's.

    • @laidbackeasttexan
      @laidbackeasttexan 3 года назад

      @@roverworld7218 I’d love to try some. Unfortunately due to the “climate” in Mexico my company doesn’t send us south of the border anymore. The RGV or EP is as close as I’ve gotten in years. Had a grandmother and aunts that retired down in the RGV as a kid. Crossing the border was a daily treat when we visited. Miss those days

    • @LividImp
      @LividImp 3 года назад +1

      Same in California, especially around Christmas the vendors are all over.

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin 3 года назад +168

    I'm 66 and have seen many things that were once ubiquitous vanish. The milkman delivering milk to your doorstep. Bakery trucks driving through the neighborhood selling breads and pastries. More recently, phone booths and pay phones have all but disappeared.
    On the other hand, some things which were rare or unheard of have now become commonplace. When I was a kid, almost all stores were closed by 9 p.m. And many stores were closed on Sundays. The first convenience stores I saw were 7/11s, which got their name by the fact that they were open from 7 a.m. until 11 p.m. Nowadays most supermarkets are open 'til 11, and convenience stores are open 24 hours a day.

    • @ShawnD1027
      @ShawnD1027 3 года назад +6

      Not only were many stores closed on Sundays, I know of small towns in Georgia (Clayton being one) where up through the late '70s, most (if not all) of the stores would close around 2 p.m. on Wednesdays.

    • @scottkoenig6326
      @scottkoenig6326 3 года назад +8

      @@ShawnD1027 That is interesting. I wonder why stores closed for the day at 2:00 p.m. on Wednesdays. Could it be for mid-week Bible study classes? That's the only thing I can think of. (related to this topic)

    • @IMBlakeley
      @IMBlakeley 3 года назад +6

      @@scottkoenig6326 From the UK and yep many stores had 1/2 day closing in the week and then opened 1/2 day Saturday that way the staff hours were for 5 days. Banks opened at 09.00 and closed at 15.00 and weekdays only.

    • @petebrian2841
      @petebrian2841 3 года назад +6

      @@scottkoenig6326 They were closed half a day on Wednesday so they could open all day Saturday. Saturday was the day most farmers would come in to town. Also most stores in the south didn't open on Sunday because they were not allowed to. They were called Sunday Blue Laws.

    • @ShawnD1027
      @ShawnD1027 3 года назад +2

      @@scottkoenig6326, I really doubt Bible study was the reason (and, no, I'm not oblivious to Bible-Thumpers). It's far more likely because of the reasons @IMBlakely and @Pete Brian said.

  • @vickiwooley3088
    @vickiwooley3088 3 года назад +11

    I love this episode! I was born and raised in Arizona, and I still live here. My grandmother and mother would make tamales every Christmas. My mother-in-law shared the same tradition. I make tamales every once in awhile. My oldest son , now in his 30's make them as well. He makes them better than all us old women. You could say he's a modern millennial tamale man.

  • @doggedout
    @doggedout 3 года назад +46

    It's 7:30 Am.
    And now I want some damn tamales.

    • @profharveyherrera
      @profharveyherrera 3 года назад +2

      With a cup of hot champurrado. There's no better breakfast on a cold morning

  • @grimreaper6557
    @grimreaper6557 3 года назад +43

    I grew up in California in the 60's and remember Tamales being sold by street vendors pushing carts then using hot truck. Personally my fondest memories was grabing a quick lunch from a tamales vendor outside of school i loved them. Thank you for this wonderful look back in to the History of the Tamales

    • @Alex-cb2gf
      @Alex-cb2gf 3 года назад +4

      I used to stop at a roadside taco stand coming home from school in So. CA.

    • @cuddlesandkafka
      @cuddlesandkafka 3 года назад +1

      There are at least a couple tamal vendors who go through my Long Beach, California, neighborhood weekly, one a man with a pushcart and one a woman in an SUV who sells them out of the trunk.

    • @cuddlesandkafka
      @cuddlesandkafka 3 года назад +1

      I can hear the sing-song from down the street in my mind's ear: "Taaaaa-ma-les! Queeeeee-so, poooo-llo, de caaaar-ne!"

    • @tgant2000
      @tgant2000 3 года назад +2

      Wow... the memories you bring back. Nothing better than street tamales and street tacos in SoCal!

    • @Cneqq
      @Cneqq Год назад +1

      It was still common even back in 2005-2013 and most likely even before then and most likely still now, even as far out as San Bernardino or Riverside/Lake Elsinore there were still tamale ladies that came and sold tamales.
      I left the US in 2017 and moved to Australia and I really miss Mexican food so much.

  • @IsenMike
    @IsenMike 3 года назад +10

    Tamale street vendors are still quite active in parts of NYC. In my neighborhood in West Harlem, for years (up until everything shut down last year for COVID), the end of my evening commute would be punctuated by a song of "Tamales-tamales!" from a lovely local woman selling (presumably) home-made tamales near the top of the subway stairs, the tamales kept warm in an insulated cooler and sold for a few dollars each. I only bought the snacks from her once or twice but they were quite good. I came to look forward to that call for "Tamales-tamales!" as a comforting reminder that I'd made it home after a long day in the office downtown. I truly hope she's holding out okay during the pandemic, and that she returns to be a recognizable feature of the neighborhood once things regain some semblance of normalcy here...

  • @cartman4885
    @cartman4885 3 года назад +6

    Whenever I would get tamales as a gift I would be so happy and appreciative because of all the hard work that goes into making them that makes the gift so special..........

  • @alohathaxted
    @alohathaxted 3 года назад +86

    Buying a canned Tamale is like buying a canned Wedding Cake.

    • @daviddevereux3427
      @daviddevereux3427 3 года назад +2

      I remember coming across a tinned chicken, It was disgusting

    • @doggydeeds
      @doggydeeds 3 года назад +4

      Or a canned hamburger

    • @LividImp
      @LividImp 3 года назад

      I almost spit out my drink laughing at this.

    • @worldtraveler930
      @worldtraveler930 3 года назад +2

      I can't think of a faster way to poison a dog than a nasty canned tamale.

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 3 года назад +1

      Thank you for a genuine LOL.

  • @petervilla6228
    @petervilla6228 3 года назад +40

    Tamales is a huge tradition at Christmas, I’m sure that at least 80% of Hispanics are eating tamales while opening presents .

    • @LordSteeleCastleClashPsteele68
      @LordSteeleCastleClashPsteele68 3 года назад +5

      I'd say closer to 90-95%

    • @paulkelly1702
      @paulkelly1702 3 года назад +2

      This Irish family too. Every Christmas!

    • @andrewvenor8035
      @andrewvenor8035 3 года назад +6

      Tamales were on the Christmas menu for my Anglo family in Sothern California.

    • @worldtraveler930
      @worldtraveler930 3 года назад +5

      Hay, at least your guaranteed to unwrap at least something during Christmas. 😁

    • @ernestgalvan9037
      @ernestgalvan9037 3 года назад +5

      @@LordSteeleCastleClashPsteele68 ..absolutely... if you Abuela (Grandma) or Tia (aunt) couldn’t make them, well, you simply ordered them from you friend’s Abuela or Tia.😋

  • @ppumpkin3282
    @ppumpkin3282 3 года назад +33

    I suddenly got a craving for a tamale.

  • @wintonhudelson2252
    @wintonhudelson2252 3 года назад +59

    I had hoped someone would have already posted the old food weather forecast. "Chili today, but hot tamale". I can already hear the groans and I've just typed it, LOL......sorry

    • @godsfavoriteblister852
      @godsfavoriteblister852 3 года назад +9

      No groans, that's a good ole one! 🙂👍

    • @timmmahhhh
      @timmmahhhh 3 года назад +5

      Fitting for this video, well done!

    • @rabbi120348
      @rabbi120348 3 года назад +2

      -6F here in Milwaukee today, but going to 35 tomorrow.

    • @ripig111
      @ripig111 3 года назад +5

      When I was 10 years old (circa 1960) and living in California, I thought this was hilarious. We started with, "Did you hear the Mexican weather forecast?"

    • @TrickiVicBB71
      @TrickiVicBB71 3 года назад +2

      Now that is a good one

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 3 года назад +99

    Anybody remember those candies called Hot Tamales? Made by the same people that made Mike and Ikes and Jolly Joe's.

    • @TM-rc3ck
      @TM-rc3ck 3 года назад +11

      They are still around and are still delicious

    • @thebigdog2295
      @thebigdog2295 3 года назад +7

      You can find them in CVS in the candy aisle sometimes.

    • @markdurham5062
      @markdurham5062 3 года назад +4

      Had some last night

    • @Alex-cb2gf
      @Alex-cb2gf 3 года назад +2

      @Night Rider yup they still make them along with Mike and Ike.

    • @trishthehomesteader9873
      @trishthehomesteader9873 3 года назад +2

      They're an addiction I try to stay away from. 😁

  • @jimz68
    @jimz68 3 года назад +5

    I used to drive half an hour to buy tamales from a man selling them from a giant pot set in the trunk of his car. He would set up shop in the corner of a gas station parking lot, and ask if you wanted "juice". They were wonderful. Thanks for sparking that memory.

  • @awolfalone2006
    @awolfalone2006 3 года назад +26

    There are worse things to fight over. Edit: the best tamales I've ever had came out of someone's trunk.

  • @em1osmurf
    @em1osmurf 3 года назад +50

    yup. the hot dog carts are gone, here. the one in front the courts building was a vital resource. covid has wrecked a lot of vendors.

    • @jasondiaz8431
      @jasondiaz8431 3 года назад +4

      Nothing like a good old dirty water dog.

    • @em1osmurf
      @em1osmurf 3 года назад +2

      @@jasondiaz8431 he packed like 10 10-packs of dogs into the bath, by the time lunch breaks and court recesses were over, he sold out. that's 100 dogs fully dressed in one hour. the guy was amazing! and good sides, too!

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 Год назад

      Not just Covid. A lot of cities' local zoning regulations don't allow mobile restaurants anywhere.

  • @timothythompson3029
    @timothythompson3029 3 года назад +8

    Delta style tamales are called "hot tamales ". They are a big thing in my home town of New Orleans. They are still sold many gas stations and convenience stores.

  • @TheHerbdude
    @TheHerbdude 3 года назад +195

    Tamales in cans taste like disappointment.

    • @yourhuckleberry6757
      @yourhuckleberry6757 3 года назад +7

      Can tamales tastes like you're not getting a present again this year.

    • @ply61
      @ply61 3 года назад

      And now they're selling them in vaccum sealed bags

    • @ltlbuddha
      @ltlbuddha 3 года назад +7

      They taste like Betrayal!

    • @kenc7435
      @kenc7435 3 года назад +4

      ya, i agree, i much rather buy a fresh tamale from a street vendor or lunch wagon that sells in the same place everyday than buy some mass produced by the millions out of a can or frozen,

    • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
      @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 3 года назад +1

      That you get the one in the glass jar

  • @deepgardening
    @deepgardening 3 года назад +3

    I learned a tamale recipe from my fellow student teacher Jesus de la Garza, who had just married an Angla and so the couple was learning la cocina Mexicana/the family recipes from his mom. My partner and I got to learn from them. His grandmother had been a young refugee during the tumult of the Mexican Revolution and fled to San Antonio where she made her living selling fresh tamales from a basket in downtown San Antonio. Her version was rather small, easily eaten in two big bites, with a well-spiced filling of ground beef tongue held in a shell of just enough masa mixed with a bit of lard. Steamed until they swelled tight in the hoja (corn husk) it was a convenient and sanitary street food as well as a required element in any holiday meal, even a breakfast.

  • @waitaminute-vw9hf
    @waitaminute-vw9hf 3 года назад +7

    I once made tamales from scratch. Now I know why Abuela, Madre, Hija, Tia and Sobrinas get together to make them. Many hands make light work.

  • @RussellNelson
    @RussellNelson 3 года назад +7

    1:10 Similarly, Americans say "perogies" when they want more than one, however, in Polish, "periogi" is already plural. "Pierog" is the singular form.

  • @sparky6086
    @sparky6086 3 года назад +18

    As a child in the '70's, I remember reading a book called, "The Push Cart War". I wonder if the various Tamale wars inspired it?

    • @AnneliOberman
      @AnneliOberman 3 года назад +2

      Great book

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 3 года назад +3

      Street vendor wars are numerous in history and international in scope.. seems every city and nation had its "cart war" at some point

  • @ndogg20
    @ndogg20 3 года назад +2

    For all the veterans of this forgotten conflict, I would like to say thank you all for your service.
    Thank you and can I get a couple of more napkins please.

  • @PASTRAMIKick
    @PASTRAMIKick 3 года назад +14

    Single: Tamal
    Plural: Tamales
    American form: Tamale

  • @BELCAN57
    @BELCAN57 3 года назад +20

    If you live in Arizona and frequent Mexican supermarkets there's usually one or two people in the parking lot that offers home made tamales for sale. Yum!

    • @gus473
      @gus473 3 года назад +3

      Used to be tamale and burrito vendors walking up and down the beach in Puerto Peñasco/"Rocky Point" Sonora, too! Delicious, filling, cheap! 😎🍻

    • @petegonzales3981
      @petegonzales3981 3 года назад +3

      Oh yeah, check any IGA or Food City. The worse the neighborhood the better the tamales!

    • @vickiwooley3088
      @vickiwooley3088 3 года назад

      true!

    • @juresichj
      @juresichj 3 года назад

      In good weather, there is one who sits on the edge of my Trader Joes driveway in Portland OR.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 года назад +1

      Don’t forget the atole! Try the traditional Mexican flavor of cookies-n-cream. 😆

  • @Svendip
    @Svendip 3 года назад +1

    History is so much more than just rulers, wars and conquest. Yes I do appreciate those episodes, but it is stuff like this about how people lived that really fascinates me. I keep coming back for more.

  • @Anonarchist
    @Anonarchist 3 года назад +13

    I'm not proud to say I eat pork tamales by the dozen, but my shame won't stop me.

  • @socalgal714
    @socalgal714 3 года назад +13

    We still have a "tamale lady" that comes around every couple of weeks. You'll see her driving through the neighborhood in her old station wagon. 2 for $5.00. Sweet or savory. You can pre order larger quantities for parties. She's been coming around for decades, but ya know, I don't know her name! 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 года назад +1

      She’s making bank. My tamal vendor sells me tamales for 10 pesos each. That’s about 50¢. Her name is Conchita. Her sister sells bolillos and pan dulce. Their kids ring my doorbell or they shout up to my window (or I hear them down on the street when they reach the corner).

    • @sevenandthelittlestmew
      @sevenandthelittlestmew 3 года назад

      2 for $5?? That’s highway robbery. We get them here for $6/dozen, or 2 dozen for $10. Any kind you want, and they come door to door.

  • @campbellpaul
    @campbellpaul 3 года назад +31

    You are a great historian. I have learned the proper pronunciation of "tamal" as well as "Tarawa" from you. Thank you.

    • @AveryMilieu
      @AveryMilieu 3 года назад +2

      I agree about the Great Historian, but I beg to differ about "proper pronunciation". Languages change. They are constantly evolving. I prefer to think that the different pronunciations of words from ancient languages are the Modern Pronunciation. My Latin teacher was adamant that the Church Latin is not correctly pronounced. Modern. And while I cannot recall more specific details (this was over half a century ago) I DO remember a number of digressions on the subject when we were reading Latin text (Caesar - sigh) aloud in class. She spoke five modern languages and at least three dead ones fluently. Stuttered in her native tongue (English) but read Chaucer flawlessly. Go figure. Still, I was fascinated by her overview of the subject of languages and adopted her perspective about evolution of spoken words.

    • @campbellpaul
      @campbellpaul 3 года назад +1

      @@AveryMilieu I have come to accept how words like "legend" or "vintage" changed meaning in the last 75 years, without a reference given in the standard dictionary, but I have less confidence in myself if I pronounce or use a foreign word incorrectly because it sounds like another, or I wrongly interpret the plural suffix or if I mistakenly add an extra vowel or use a vowel sound that doesn't exist in that country. I am very much interested in history, and I love people the world over, so it is not my wish to look ignorant, as there are many other ways I can look silly while making a first impression 😅

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 года назад

      @@AveryMilieu Be that as it may, tamales is plural, tamal is singular.

  • @paulaweaver6508
    @paulaweaver6508 3 года назад +2

    My dad as a child sold hot tamale for a lady in his neighborhood who made them in her kitchen. Many times dad was paid with tamales which was sometimes the only meal the family had on that day. Depression era time frame in indianapolis.
    Thank you for your history lessons

  • @kevinkoepke8311
    @kevinkoepke8311 3 года назад +2

    Friendswood TX has a tamale man, now second generation. I've been buying from their van since 1979. The business is simply called 'Hot Tamales Since 1976'

  • @jameswillis1819
    @jameswillis1819 3 года назад +3

    This is one of my favorite episodes you’ve done so far-and the poetic ending. I grew up in south Texas where they are still ubiquitous; I had no idea they were once so popular elsewhere

  • @qbeard1
    @qbeard1 3 года назад +9

    A good tamale is a treasure.

  • @jamesburnett7085
    @jamesburnett7085 3 года назад +1

    As is his custom, the History Guy again makes history personal - we feel the desperation, the success, the failure, and the rich experience of the folks whose enterprise brought us this marvelous food. Other less able historians may tell us about the food, but here we also learn of THE PEOPLE who made it. This is what makes the History Guy the best. Bravo!

  • @BSKustomz
    @BSKustomz 3 года назад +19

    Robert Johnson you're now the king of the Mississippi Delta blues, now go back to town and get yourself some hot tamales You're going need some on your stomach where you going... (I hope the Lucky Yates voice comes through)

  • @avanreijn
    @avanreijn 3 года назад +12

    "Hot tamale
    Hot hot tamale
    Hot tamale
    Hot hot
    Do you like tamale?
    hot hot tamale?
    I like tamale, hot hot
    Hot tamale
    Hot hot tamale
    Hot tamale
    Hot hot
    Do you like tamale?
    Warm tamale?
    NO! I like hot tamale"
    --
    Mr.Weeble 2008

  • @danv6074
    @danv6074 3 года назад +3

    Porky pig used to sell them
    "Hot tamales, hot tamales
    See'em boiling in the pot.
    Hot tamales , hot tamales
    Get'em while they're good and hot"

  • @jenniferhorton6965
    @jenniferhorton6965 3 года назад

    My "History Guy", who found you several years ago, died on 02/05. Because of him, I still enjoy watching you and Mrs. History Guy. And because of him, I still read history. Reading a book about the "Women of the Blue and Grey". Fascinating. Thanks for your videos!

  • @Nashcaster
    @Nashcaster 3 года назад +1

    I wish you were my history teacher. I'm 33 and I still wish that. Not a single person could tell me that story you just told and keep my attention. But you do. I love history and your great man! This is great thanks 🤙

  • @jjab99
    @jjab99 3 года назад +3

    Perhaps you should cover the ice cream wars in the East End of Glasgow, Scotland, in the 1980s.
    Love your videos and always look forward to a new one. Please keep up the great work and stay safe,
    Joe

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  3 года назад +4

      The Glasgow Ice Cream wars will certainly change your visions of the neighborhood ice cream truck. The problem has been that we don't have any photos or media in the Public Domain. It might be a topic we eventually cover in our podcasts.

  • @inferioraim
    @inferioraim 3 года назад +19

    How dare you saying there are too many hotdog variations

    • @recurvestickerdragon
      @recurvestickerdragon 3 года назад +3

      Dang it, now I want hot dogs

    • @heronimousbrapson863
      @heronimousbrapson863 3 года назад +4

      You have to admit, though, that hot dogs with whipped cream is just a tad excessive....

    • @happydee6950
      @happydee6950 3 года назад

      I suddenly find myself wondering how a tamale with a hot dog as the filling would taste @@recurvestickerdragon .

  • @valleyscottblog2440
    @valleyscottblog2440 3 года назад +1

    Tamales are very popular where I live in California's Central Valley. While you can find them in many Mexican restaurants, most people buy them from people selling them in parking lots or door-to-door in neighborhoods. It's primarily a "cottage industry" item here. Families make large batches of them. At one Emergency Room I worked in years ago we used to get visits from the "Tamale Ladies" a couple times a month. They'd have coolers full of them. Beef, chicken, pork. . . Spicy & mild. They were awesome. I'm glad that this tradition remains strong here.

  • @bretmelton3823
    @bretmelton3823 3 года назад +1

    Christmas tamales were a staple in my house, growing up. You can still find corner sellers around the holidays in Fort Worth.

  • @yeahitskimmel
    @yeahitskimmel 3 года назад +8

    I was working a site in Detroit with a nearby Tamale vendor and was bummed when we finished the job. Could get a plastic grocery bag full for $10

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 3 года назад +10

    That Tamale in the sky were all just a slice of pie!

  • @dirkditmer453
    @dirkditmer453 3 года назад +2

    Fascinating story, but have to say the "Americanized" tamale still can't hold a candle to those still served by street vendors in Mexico or even as far south as Panama. A food that has been a staple for centuries. Have discovered so many variations in my travels, it's fascinating in it's own right, from corn husks to banana leaves, from goat to conch. And I love them all.

  • @clinthowe7629
    @clinthowe7629 3 года назад +2

    It’s strange, when I was a kid I would often hear the term “it’s a hot tamale” but never knew the origins of that term, living in the southwest Mexican food is popular and tamales with it, but I never knew they ever had such popularity in the past, because they had had their day even before my time, but apparently the term hot tamale still carried some lingering cultural significance. Thanks.

  • @IRgEEK
    @IRgEEK 3 года назад +8

    Love all your posts!

  • @kenthawley5990
    @kenthawley5990 3 года назад +9

    This makes me want a real tamale.

  • @natalieschannel4147
    @natalieschannel4147 3 года назад

    Thank you for this history snippet!! My grandmother and her kids used to make tamales and tortillas for the Mecca in Pittsburg, California. Your videos have been such an enjoyment throughout the pandemic, I am truly a fan!

  • @ronh5422
    @ronh5422 3 года назад +2

    Growing up in a fairly large northern Oklahoma town in the 1950's I can still remember the 4 wheel horse drawn wagon parked on the NE corner of the town square every day. His fare was "popcorn, peanuts, hot dogs, tamales". Spent quite a bit of money with him. His tamales rivaled those of my southern Texas raised mother. Up into the 1960's we still had vendors hawking tamales from three wheel bicycles.. Aww those truly were the good tamale days of yesteryear..

  • @DudeInOhio85
    @DudeInOhio85 3 года назад +4

    Man I wish they'd bring back tamale stands.

  • @geosqueezebox4016
    @geosqueezebox4016 3 года назад +4

    Mr History Guy, you are amazing this is very amazing I did not know tamales got that big and popular during the heydays. God bless your research on this story.

  • @markburd9557
    @markburd9557 3 года назад +1

    Well written, well told. I found myself chuckling throughout the delivery.

  • @chiron14pl
    @chiron14pl 3 года назад +2

    My neighborhood in Chicago is mostly LatinX, so I frequently see discarded corn husks in the alley or on sidewalks. Tamales and small vendors are alive and well here.

  • @ArisaemaDracontium
    @ArisaemaDracontium 3 года назад +6

    That’s a pretty obscure Red Hot Chili Peppers song. Nice reference.

  • @chuckschwoch5761
    @chuckschwoch5761 3 года назад +30

    When did the candy “Hot Tamales” come along? I wonder if it was also riding the tamale tide.

    • @petercarioscia9189
      @petercarioscia9189 3 года назад +18

      If only google existed

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  3 года назад +37

      They were introduced in 1950, well after the tamale craze had faded.

    • @seandepoppe6716
      @seandepoppe6716 3 года назад +3

      Good question. I pondered that as well while watching

    • @seandepoppe6716
      @seandepoppe6716 3 года назад +5

      @@petercarioscia9189🤔 smart as*👍😎👍

    • @roverworld7218
      @roverworld7218 3 года назад +8

      Sweet tamales have existed in Mexico, particularly Central and Southern Mexico since piloncillo (brown sugar) became available during colonial times.
      It didn't make it north since until the late 19th century sugar probably wasn't readily available in arid areas were sugarcane didn't grow plus the fact sweet tamales used pineapple or some other fruit for filling, which was harder to find in desert climates.
      Hence the late start of sweet tamales in North Mexico and later the USA.
      By the way if you want to see a Tamale salesman go to Mexico City in the older areas of town or near a bakery in Merida, you can see them sitting outside with their tall metal pods selling all kinds of tamales.

  • @benjamindrake6065
    @benjamindrake6065 3 года назад +1

    Bisbee AZ! Love hearing my hometown in videos.

  • @jenniferstites8255
    @jenniferstites8255 3 года назад +1

    Love how you tell history. Thank you for reminding us of so many different things

  • @pookiehoney
    @pookiehoney 3 года назад +28

    Most people who make tamales don't make them well. Most are dry, heavy as a rock, sauceless, gross, fatty, bad sauce, unmarinated meat, etc. The masa should be light and fluffy and taste so good that it's delicious alone not hard like a rock and bad tasting. The meat should be cleaned so there's zero fat hanging off of it. Nothing makes me want to hurl like a mouthful of fat instead of meat inside my tamale. The sauce should be made a day ahead to marinate your meat. It's hard to find an edible tamale these days. Everyone is in a race to make them badly or just don't know what a good tamale is. It's like they're opening a box of instant mac n cheese and calling it real mac n cheese. They're bad bad cooks.

    • @nedludd7622
      @nedludd7622 3 года назад +3

      If you live in Southern California, they are easy to find at small Mexican restaurants or even "fast foods". I know more than a half dozen in San Diego.

    • @thomasdarby6084
      @thomasdarby6084 3 года назад +3

      In my home town of Santa Rosa, California, street vendors still sell hot tamales and other specialties from push-carts. Very reasonable prices, very fat, with pollo or puerco. They are far tastier than anything sold at restaurants. I don't consider the paper-wrapped canned variety to be food.

    • @quester09
      @quester09 3 года назад +2

      the immortal Tamale Lady of San Francisco will fix you up

    • @privateemail9755
      @privateemail9755 3 года назад

      @@nedludd7622 In San Diego, just chill around sherman or logan around dusk and listen for the screaming lady, You will definitely hear her before you spot her van.

    • @nedludd7622
      @nedludd7622 3 года назад

      @@privateemail9755 I know Logan, but not Sherman. We would go to a restaurant on Imperial I think.

  • @peterbrennan3007
    @peterbrennan3007 3 года назад +3

    I eat two tamales for breakfast most workdays.
    Usually the verde or spicy.
    That's because an older woman sells them on the corner of 39th street and 9th avenue here in Brooklyn.
    And they're delicious!!

    • @godsfavoriteblister852
      @godsfavoriteblister852 3 года назад +1

      How much??

    • @peterbrennan3007
      @peterbrennan3007 3 года назад +1

      @@godsfavoriteblister852 Two dollars a piece.

    • @godsfavoriteblister852
      @godsfavoriteblister852 3 года назад +2

      @@peterbrennan3007 that's awesome! I woulda thought NY would be astronomical. Thanks

    • @peterbrennan3007
      @peterbrennan3007 3 года назад

      @@godsfavoriteblister852 I guess because she's got no overhead other than the ingredients and time.

  • @markrobinson355
    @markrobinson355 3 года назад

    Dear History Guy, I was a Naval Aircrewman in the late 80's in a LAMPS Mk 1 helicopter squadron HSL-34 Greencheckers flying in the SH-2F Seasprite helicopter. Before I joined the Navy I was an avid model builder focusing on military aircraft but had never heard of the H-2. The helicopter was designed and is still manufactured in Bloomfield, Connecticut and was originally in competition with the UH-1 helicopter for the Army's primary utility helicopter. What makes the H-2 unique is that it is the only helicopter in the world (that I know of) that uses "blade flap" technology and as such is the only helicopter to not "need" a hydraulic system to function. Of course, it does utilize a hydraulic system, but if it fails, it can still safely function without it. I don't think that is true of any other helicopter system. I don't know if this is "history that deserves to be remembered" but I would like to think that it is a story that deserves to be told. So, I submit it for your consideration.

  • @johnwilson2338
    @johnwilson2338 3 года назад

    An enjoyable experience as usual sir, thank you for your work and your gleaning of the under explored bits and pieces of history! 👍🤙🖖✌

  • @eddiemuldoon7240
    @eddiemuldoon7240 3 года назад +3

    The best tamales I have had in my life was at a little Roadhouse " I forget the name " just outside of Uvalde Texas. My god were they good! In fact they were so good they RUINED tamales for me. But I still try others just in case I find some that may rival those I had in Uvalde.

  • @glennmiller3906
    @glennmiller3906 3 года назад +3

    i miss jims tamales in Kansas city mo the guy pushing his cart ringing the bell man were thy good!!!

  • @lukeblackford1677
    @lukeblackford1677 Год назад +1

    I remember seeing the XLNT brand in stores as a kid. Couldn’t find any where I live now, I googled it and learned they are only sold in CA, NV & AZ

  • @bionicsjw
    @bionicsjw 3 года назад +1

    As a history buff who watches a lot of documentaries I love this channel. Thank you for the hard work in putting these videos together.

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard9966 3 года назад +6

    Nothing lasts forever. Just like the pay telephone, slot car track emporiums, drive ins, and rooftop antennas.

    • @katieandkevinsears7724
      @katieandkevinsears7724 3 года назад

      Drive ins made a Covid comeback.

    • @stevenkassulke9747
      @stevenkassulke9747 3 года назад

      there is still a slot car track club in my town. tho there is like 5 ppl in it lol. i walk past them sometimes

  • @Nor-Gar
    @Nor-Gar 3 года назад +4

    I love tamales from Texas and Mexico!

  • @Shayna11NM
    @Shayna11NM 3 года назад

    I've been a subscriber for a while now and always enjoy your content, but the Tamale Wars and me being a New Mexican, I particularly loved this episode. iMuchas Gracias, Senor!

  • @grahamcann1761
    @grahamcann1761 3 года назад

    As always, thank you so very much for your videos.

  • @gorflunk
    @gorflunk 3 года назад +12

    Well, it doesn't hurt that "tamale" is a fun word to say.

  • @RWSCOTT
    @RWSCOTT 3 года назад +9

    I would love a historical breakdown on the knish.

    • @jashanestone
      @jashanestone 3 года назад

      🤩🤩🤩💯

    • @jashanestone
      @jashanestone 3 года назад

      And mustard.. 🤔

    •  3 года назад

      What's a knish? They didn't have them in LA.

  • @richardstephens3327
    @richardstephens3327 3 года назад +1

    Tamale's have bin found in Anasazi ruins in NM. I guess it is a reginal thing but here in NM, AZ, and TX sellers still go around with coolers filled with tamales and burritos to sell at work sights and other early morning and lunch locations.

  • @dbfry1449
    @dbfry1449 3 года назад

    This past Christmas season, for the first time, I saw two nationally known Mexican food chains offering Tamales on their menus. They weren't bad, but I have friends who make great ones.
    Always enjoy learning history from the History Guy.

  • @Mistersky46
    @Mistersky46 3 года назад +5

    I've actually never heard about tamales, but now I'm eager to try one!

    • @godsfavoriteblister852
      @godsfavoriteblister852 3 года назад +2

      Had some fresh ones for breakfast and dinner yesterday.... lol

    • @3ladeRunner
      @3ladeRunner 3 года назад +2

      If you can’t find a good Mexican restaurant, you can find frozen ones at Trader Joe’s. (Blasphemy I know)

    • @marymarysmarket3508
      @marymarysmarket3508 3 года назад +1

      The best ones I’ve ever eaten were in the middle of nowhere west Texas...goat tamales on Christmas Day. 🥟

    • @lisahinton9682
      @lisahinton9682 3 года назад

      @@godsfavoriteblister852
      What's the point of your "lol" on the end of your comment?

    • @godsfavoriteblister852
      @godsfavoriteblister852 3 года назад

      @@lisahinton9682 Tamales make me happy and I laugh when I'm happy....
      are you ok with that....?

  • @tomallen8459
    @tomallen8459 3 года назад +3

    My grandparents said at the turn of century the stray cat population would vary according to tamale time in phoenix

    • @gorflunk
      @gorflunk 3 года назад +1

      Which century?

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  3 года назад +3

      If you noticed, there was a news story in the episode that suggested that chicken tamales in San Francisco were being made with seagulls.

    • @wintonhudelson2252
      @wintonhudelson2252 3 года назад +1

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel finally sea gulls are good for something....other than dive-bombing us, LOL

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 3 года назад +1

      @@wintonhudelson2252 "squab" 😉😉😉. (Arrgh, autocorrect!)

    • @kaylaandjimbryant8258
      @kaylaandjimbryant8258 3 года назад +1

      Ugh... Now I have to decide whether to show this thread to Jim. Seagulls used to attack him during lunch when he lived in Ventura county CA

  • @gunslingerscreed81
    @gunslingerscreed81 3 года назад

    I love your channel, such fascinatingly cool stuff. History love from Norfolk, Va.

  • @vaderbaby
    @vaderbaby 3 года назад

    I have always enjoyed tamales. I order them at the Mexican restaurant, I even buy them canned, & once worked with a man at Knox County Sheriff's Office in Tennessee who made the best homemade tamales & was always kind enough to contact me for my order. Bless Lt Wilson for that. I did know that they were a far older food item than most people realize & not quite prepared as they originally were, but I was happily pleased to learn from you that they were so very popular as a street vendor item back in my grandparents' days ( my grandparents were old enough to be my parents' grandparents & my parents were old enough to actually be my grandparents).

  • @thomasdarby6084
    @thomasdarby6084 3 года назад +3

    I noticed in one of the newspaper articles (at 10:16) that in the factories, "White men and women are employed the year around" to produce tamales... thus openly expressing the racism of the day and disparaging of the traditional (and still the best) Mexican tamale makers. In my original home of Santa Rosa, California, street vendors are still seen selling the fattest, best-tasting tamales at a reasonable price... far better than most restaurants, let alone the canned variety.

    • @kesmarn
      @kesmarn 3 года назад +2

      I noticed that in the article too. In many ways, those were *not* the Good Olde Days. And we still have some distance to go today in the 21st century too.

    • @gordoncavis1374
      @gordoncavis1374 3 года назад +1

      BFD - society evolves. Today straight white males are the ones whose abilities are secondary to the demands of the 'social justice' quota system, as seen in the dramatic disintegration of a functional community.

    • @melodyhart1331
      @melodyhart1331 3 года назад +1

      Racisim was not even a word then,now it is an over used term !

  • @nedludd7622
    @nedludd7622 3 года назад +3

    Canned tamales sound like the equivalent of canned ravioli.

    • @quester09
      @quester09 3 года назад

      sadness in a can

  • @trishthehomesteader9873
    @trishthehomesteader9873 3 года назад +2

    Thank you THG. Always an interesting journey.💜
    When I lived in Houston, my neighbor brought over tamales. I've yet to taste any better than hers.

  • @chuckokelley2448
    @chuckokelley2448 3 года назад

    Outstanding show as always

  • @fbksfrank4
    @fbksfrank4 3 года назад +8

    Lady here, started selling tamales out of her car trunk in North Pole, Alaska, she now has her own little place.

  • @Turf-yj9ei
    @Turf-yj9ei 3 года назад +5

    I'm from the Mississippi Delta. I love hot tamales.

  • @joesterling4299
    @joesterling4299 3 года назад +2

    Hot Tamales and *"They're Red Hot"* Eric Clapton - Me and Mr Johnson. Now I know the rest of that story. Thank you!

  • @molly1949
    @molly1949 3 года назад

    tamales at Christmas are part of our tradition since moving las vegas, husband Norwegian, and I'm English. i think absorbing the traditions of all those around us makes for a welcoming sight and fragrance as neighbors drop by during holidays. so i embraced the groups around me. makes life far more pleasant no matter where you find yourself.

  • @scallywag1716
    @scallywag1716 3 года назад +8

    I loooovvee tamales! I would have enjoyed a tamale war the winner ate the most tamales. 😁

  • @gilbertgarcia776
    @gilbertgarcia776 3 года назад +3

    Tamale's still dominate here in L.A

  • @RichardJohnson-cg2ix
    @RichardJohnson-cg2ix 3 года назад

    Ya never cease to amaze this old man.
    Kudos.
    Well done.

  • @sclm046
    @sclm046 Месяц назад

    My Dad once told of his introduction to tamales. Dad was born in 1905 in Burnet County, Texas. In his pre-teen years he and his father moved the 40 or so miles to Austin. Once in Austin he noticed a street-vendor walking the downtown streets with his tin pail of tamales. He said until then he had never heard of tamales. Once he purchased one he was a fan of tamales. Later he advised that those tamales were particularly "greasy" but oh so tasty!

  • @michaelrock6992
    @michaelrock6992 3 года назад +4

    History Guy is making History!

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 3 года назад +8

    Back in the saddle again!

    • @ttrestle
      @ttrestle 3 года назад +3

      Now you’ve got that song stuck in my head!

  • @tm502010
    @tm502010 3 года назад

    Wonderful as always!

  • @makerspace533
    @makerspace533 3 года назад

    President Ford was visiting San Antonio when someone gave him a taste of the local faire, a tamale. Unfortunately, he wasn't told to remove the husk. When he bit into that husk, he had an expression on his face I'll never forget.