This is amazing. I already own a MiSTer, I just need a CPS 2 cabinet and a MiSTerCade if I want to build an arcade machine. NeoGeo, CPS1, CPS2 all on the same cabinet? Hell yeah. That's $1000 or more just for boards and multi-game carts I don't need to spend.
I totally agree. You will always have collectors of the things they really love (I'm not unloading my Neo Geo carts), but for the more casual games you just want to play? This more than suffices. It's an amazing bang for the buck.
So glad you liked that! That was the intent this past week and I didn’t know how it would turn out but it ended up looking ok for an amateur. I like trying out new things when making videos and this seemed like a prime opportunity to experiment with that theme.
It's a pretty great (and convenient) way to roll. Definitely would advocate for this as a next best option outside of original pcbs. TONS of bang for your buck too.
Being in it for the long haul has to have been something cool to watch unfold. Hell, just while making this video DoDonPachi came out and blew me away.
@@ScarletSprites the mistercade seems like an awesome addon. Now to find my white whale, an Astro city. They just r hard to come by in central pa. I follow that arcade whole seller down in Maryland u mentioned a while back but no luck yet!!
seems like this is going to be the year mister goes main stream . i rember 30 years ago the fpga scene was super niche super nerd stuff now 2021 here we are
Yeah, I recall hearing "of it" but that's about it. It seems being relatively more affordable, getting things organized for mainstream practical use, and a decent online community have really helped bolster popularity. Even the commercial products like those from Analogue have seemingly really taken off.
As a long time MiSTer user I have had a similar experience. It just works. It doesn't have the exact same bells and whistles but it has been extremely reliable for me.
The simplicity of it is fantastic. I love the no fuss just play aspect. For those who do want to dive deeper though you can still peel back the layers.
@@ScarletSprites Same. I know a lot of people are critical of it's interface, but I prefer it honestly. It's got almost no boot time and you can just get in and play.
Omg, I really don’t care about the interface at all. I much prefer low bloat and higher performance. All the scraping and themes and other stuff in alternative formats is a real turnoff to me.
The questions you asked at the end of this video are there same questions I've asked myself but for me it's about the retro consoles I own and collect for. If I setup a MiSTer would I "really" need to collect anything anymore just to put on a shelf, since in actuality, would I want to connect and disconnect my aging consoles anymore. The cost of recap kits, the prices of restoring them, buying upscalers/line doublers, expensive high quality cables for them all and/or buying expensive multi-carts or modding CD drives to use SD cards... The MiSTer is looking more and more worth the value and peace of mind when wanting to play your old retro games. 😭 You have a stick ass setup brother! 🤟😋
There are for sure certain games I love that I just want in my collection. Physical copies of those types of games are what I think I will continue to own. It’s tough to want to chase down something like Willow though. I like it, it’s cool, I’ll play it...but I’m not married to it in any overly special way. In that case, there’s no need for me to chase down the pcb and spend $100s on it. I definitely like collecting original hardware too. I have a hard time letting go of consoles, but I have done it. I’m much more likely to sell a game than I am hardware if we’re talking consoles. Good stuff though, and everyone is going to have their own spin on how this affects them.
Great video, thanks! I've been pursuing to get multi capabilities on three systems (CPS2, MVS, and Sega Naomi), but in Brazil, the cost is insanely high. So far, I managed to get a Naomi NetDIMM and a (very poor substitute) 161-in-one cartridge for the MVS; but considering the cost of adquiring a Darksoft CPS2 Multikit and a Terraonion NeoSD Pro, I think you just convinced me to go the FPGA route!
If I was in your situation I’d probably go FPGA route. Sadly, this won’t cover Naomi for you yet but with the Saturn core seeing developments there is at least maybe some sliver of hope that some day it could happen. I’ve always heard 3D is much harder to do FPGA style.
Fantastic video! To answer your question, I’ll still keep buying multis and original boards within reason, however, I can no longer justify buying expensive boards already on MiSTer (or soon to come) that hold no nostalgia value. I went through the same thing with consoles. I got rid of most of my 8- and 16-bit console games in favor of one MiSTer setup. I kept all of my original games from childhood and I’ll still play those on original hardware. As long as I have a working cabinet with CRT, I’ll keep playing SFII: CE on original hardware. I like multis because they still give the original hardware experience. I may be in the minority but I also like working on old arcade hardware. I’ll pick up the MiSTercade day one.
I totally get that. I think that that question isn't going to have a true black and white answer. I think you'll see a lot of people take a hybrid approach. The games that truly matter to people from a nostalgic standpoint will continue to be ones they chase after or hold onto. The ones they just want to play? Probably ok for FPGA. I definitely think multi purchases will be a split decision too.
Great vid! Now this is something that I am really looking forward to! Primarily for all the classics that are impossible to find. And I think it was the Willow title screen that really sealed the deal!
Great video, I'm so excited for this. I have to say when you started playing SF2 I did immediately think about the DarkSoft CPS1 Multi, I'm sure it will be brilliant but I should imagine the Mister/MisterCade will probably be cheaper and is definitely more versatile. With boards falling over all time it's hard to not see FPGA as the future.
There’s definitely room for both. I suspect more than a few people will even buy both. I guess I just don’t know how many people will decide FPGA is good enough. The arcade crowd is pretty loyal to original hardware so I can certainly see the DS kits continuing to do really well.
Freaking EPIC. As a current MiSTer owner, this makes me really want an Astro City cab. Unfortunately, being in New York City, they're very difficult to come by in the condition I'd want.
Northeast is tough for Candy cabs in general. They’re tough to find or they’re expensive, usually both. I wouldn’t shy away from a smaller Dynamo cab. Usually used for SF2 they have control panels for six buttons ready to go and will be much more plentiful. Also, larger though.
If you’re up for a little road trip, there is an importer in South Carolina that can get an Astro City cabinet. I’ve used him to buy a few candies in the past.
Looking good, I'm glad you could give a positive review on this solution. I totally trust you on this because of the amount of knowledge you got with real hardware :)
Thanks man! It’s a pretty great solution and continues to see more and more added to it. I loved that DoDonPachi dropped in the middle of making this. It’s also quirky fun to play console games on a real arcade too.
Looks really good. I like how everything is integrated into the pcb. A 3d printed shell would be nice to just throw it into a cab. I've gone the j-pac route as it's supported in Mister and had one laying around from the old mame pc in a cab days of the early 2000s. 😁
I agree that we definitely will need a case once the final design is agreed on. I'm sure once that happens you'll have several people offering up their takes on a case.
Even if this wasn't going into a cabinet, this would still be cool to use through JAMMA to play those arcade titles that didn't run through JAMMA to begin with. As long as your supergun of choice has an RGB or Component out option you're set to play on any good CRT or upscaler like the OSSC. Many superguns also allow DB15 and USB connections for controllers these days to, pretty nifty if your prefer to play with a USB arcade stick, USB retro controllers like the Saturn or SNES options that exist, modern controllers like the PS4 or Xbox One and anything with a DB15 connector like Neo Geo or any custom DB15 DIY stick. Still not sure about the overall price of a MISTER though, the money spent on one can be spent on most real JAMMA arcade boards with some change to spare. Again though, the advantage would be to play the arcade games that were not originally JAMMA.
That’s for sure a nice perk; avoiding any adapters you’d otherwise need like you mentioned. As far as the Supergun goes though, I’d probably just skip the MiSTerCade addon entirely and just roll with MiSTer to keep things simple.
This is definitely a game changer, forget arpicade, mame and the others...here comes a new challenger! I look forward to picking this up and the ds cps1 still, I like having options. Haha!
Super cool. Ive only got the "digital" version of Mister (no IO board) I can't imagine how great these games must look in person on that Astro City monitor!!
Man, look at all the goodies that Scarlet has everywhere you look. I wish I had them in my collection to have 100X the fun you have bro. Never a dull moment for sure. 8^) Anthony..
God damn I'm hyped, I think you half answered your question about Multi solutions, I don't really want to sell mine, but would I buy more now? Probably not. It's weird, but it's actually a bit similar to my mvs, I don't really want to sell them even if I have a darksoft mvs. Collecting curse maybe, or just fetishism for authenticity. Anyway thanks for some arcade ASMR, it looked great
Thanks man. I would agree, I’m probably sitting in that hybrid zone with this. I’m not unloading anything I already have (Darksoft or original PCBs) but will I pursue more? Probably not. You can definitely cross me off the list of people thinking they were ever going to by Cave pcbs, lol.
Well, there's still standard MiSTer which plays all these games pretty greatly on CRT or modern LCD. If you ever get room for a cab you're halfway prepped!
Great video have a quick question I just purchased the Mistercade full kit with DE10 nano. I have a brand new 24.8 flat CRT try sync Arcade monitor here are the SPECS: The horizontal synchronization signal frequency is 15 K 24 and 31K automatically vertical synchronization’s signal frequency is between 47 and 70 Hz video is TTL between 2.5 to 5.0 Vp-p at 1 k ohm impedance and the analog is 0.7 V PP 75 ohm impedance, the resolution it supports is 560 x 240, 640x350, and 640 x 480 Signal connector 6pin (RGB, GND, H+V, V) or 15 pin D-Sub ( Male) I am totally new to this project you mentioned in the beginning of the video that all you need to do is grab his files and change the Mr. INI 15 kHz and 31 kHz so my question is does Mistercade supports all three frequencies 15 kHz 24 kHz and 31 kHz is there a Mr. INI 24 kHz? . Thanks
Thanks for this. I'm finally going this way with my MVS cab-probably on a jamma switcher so it is still 'a real arcade'. I've already grabbed a second MiSTer for the purpose, because here in 2022, the odds are super-slim of getting a both a DE-10 and a MiSTercade available at the same time. Everything related to MiSTer seems to have become 'sign up for the availability email'😢
At this point, I'm surprised companies like Capcom don't just sell their own FPGA based arcade boards. There is clearly a demand for this type of stuff with the prices of original boards on ebay, and emulated alternatives like Pandora Boxes.
This is so exciting to see come to fruition. There was a Tapper arcade cabinet in the last venue I used to go to that shut down for shows. It was never powered on / working lol.
There is the high pitched sound you can usually hear when they first kick on but I honestly never notice it afterwards. Make an offer on that Tapper, lol. They’re so expensive even when not working.
It's probably been liquidated by now, unfortunately. I'm the same way with consumer sets, but I also use headphones so I almost never notice it. With an arcade cab though, I'd just be using the speakers. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why (iirc) the Neo Geo stuff went with 24khz monitors. Tube whine never bothered me, but I know not everyone has 5 CRTs in their home they use regularly lol.
Great video thx! I am new to Mister and I wonder if there is a way to make it a seamless arcade experience: - Can it autoload the last game on startup? Is there a procedure to turn it off or do you simply power off your cabinet like you would with the real hardware? - Can you configure the ingame menu hotkey on something else than the cabinet’s panel? It would be nice to have something similar to the MVS unibios « arcade protect » mode (use of test / service switches combination to access the mister menu for instance).
You can have it boot to the last core upon startup. There is a ten second countdown for this. I’m told that is needed in order to fully initialize the ram. Think of it the same as a normal pcb, you would just power down the cabinet. Some cores will support hot key menu but not all. For now I find having the keyboard best.
This is amazing - I would probably work to make a mini arcade. I totally would go ham if they made Mortal Kombat on this, but the huge Capcom library is a nice alternative. I have no familiarity with Mister but this is an amazing project.
There has been a lot of chatter about Midway games lately. For sure MK and NBA Jam are big on everyone's list right now. This device has been amazing even in the short time I've had it. More cores seem to be in the works and rolling out monthly. CPS2 is about to drop and I think that alone will put a lot of people over the edge.
Such great video dude. I'm really lookong forward to the CPS2 core and have patreon for Jotego. Puzzle fighter 2 is a game I remember spending far too much time on the PS1 back in the day and it's amazing playing it again on an arcade stick. When marvel Vs capcom is released I may have to stump up the cash for an astro city candy cab. I think the mister project is one of the best things to happen to the arcade scene. I just hope that there is some way we can see a revival of arcades of old. With the development of mister, the expensive failing PCBs can be sent of to a museum/collector and replaced with mistercades. I just hope that the industry looks into a way of doing this to bring some money and development of the mister FPGA project. I would rather see this happen than it go down the route of capcom and the final burn catastrophe that happened with the capcom home arcade. I'm sure if money was to be ploughed back into the project more of these old boards could be documented/simulated in the same way the mame project has done. The difference is we will have near perfect accuracy it terms of speed and more importantly the sound.
Thanks man, much appreciated. As an owner of the Darksoft CPS2 kit, I'm still very much looking forward to that for comparisons sake. I want the core to be so good that it makes me regret spending money on the DS kit. I have little doubt Jotego will do it justice.
This is cool as hell. It really does revolutionize some shizz. And it was a great looking video to boot. I could definitely see investing in this. I gotta get my daggum garage done, yo.
That looks fantastic. The only downside is that you can't run vertical games properly due to the cores not being able to rotate - you would need to run a scaler mode, which probably wouldn't work on a 15hz arcade monitor, it doesn't on my Sony PVM.
It would be sweet if you could cheat and play the vertical games in horizontal mode. I've heard potential talks of that and the lag it would potentially introduce. It would be cool to have the option at least. Otherwise, yeah, you're rotating the monitor in your cabs.
Super Excited to get a MISTer, but I want it for the arcade games, and I really want an authentic arcade experience. - I dont have a cab, but I was looking at the SEGA Saturn Virtua Stick USB CS2-0007 --- Without soldering or assembling - what is the absolute best off the shelf stick thats gonna get me close to that authentic Big Blue feel?
I really only have two; the Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro and the Sega Astro City. The latter, if still available, is a pretty damn good USB stick and comes with Sanwa parts.
Looking awesome in the real cabs. Don't know why none of the cores let you map the Test button though. I assume you still have to make sure to hit a button on P1's side before trying to start a game on P2, otherwise the controls get swapped? edit: ah right after I posted that, Jotego released a new update where the F2 key on the keyboard can be used to get into the test menu for cps1/1.5
@@ScarletSprites Egret II prices have exploded. Will cost you at least 2500 euros nowdays. Better to get an astro city, which is about exactly the same, for half the price.
You mentioned your bad experience with pi2jamma, but have you tried RGB-Pi? I demo the Scart version on my channel but there’s also a Jamma version. Mister is very sweet, but if you wanting support for more arcades and for much less money than a mister setup then check out RGB-Pi Jamma edition.
No, I stopped after the Pi2Jamma debacle. Truth be told, and this is a personal decision, but I feel like if you’re going to the trouble to restore and make room for a genuine cabinet you should do it justice with an original hardware as well. The MiSTerCade is the first non-Darksoft multi solution that has intrigued me. I’m not saying the software emulation solutions aren’t fantastic, just that when it comes to the cabinets I’ve been more picky about what goes inside them.
Couldn't wait for you to post this one. Were you able to tell the difference between the Neo Geo core vs your original hardware? Was there any lag on the controls?
I played a little Windjammers on the Big Red (video not shown, lol). I have some things I want to work out with that but the short answer is no, and I think it's an awesome option for anyone out there who was considering a multicart.
I did have to do that a few times. Same deal when switching between original pcbs really. You can see that on the Joust title screen in the video, whereas Tapper was fine, Kung Fu needed a height adjustment. On the Big Blue though, all the CPS1 games were fine once the first was adjusted.
Great video thanks! Not sure if asked before, but how or what’s the best way to obtain an Astro City Candy Cab, or any good quality jamma cab for that matter? Would love to have a mistercade set up like yours someday, but don’t know where to start when it comes to actually procuring the cab... thanks!
Candy Cabs will vary by region. It's way easier to get them on the West Coast than other locations, but not impossible. I'd watch local listings (FB Marketplace, Craigslist, etc.) for something with a six button setup. If you're patient you can land something decent for ~$500, although that may vary depending on where you live. I'd argue the monitor is maybe the most important thing to be sure is good if its your first rodeo.
You’ll still have your die hards for sure. I think original hardware, especially with this audience, is always going to carry a high level of interest.
James Ross Same setup here, but on a Taito Egret with a 15/24/31 Khz monitor. I still want a MiSTercade though, cause direct to JAMMA is preferable to USB.
@@Gryzor88 yes. And Mr. Villena’s board mates up to his own analog I/o PCB much better. I’m running an analog I/o from misteraddons and the dsubs are 180 out from each other, the jamma adapter is now upside down with the cps2 kick harness routed down. And the jamma board blocks the 3.5mm audio out, about 5/16” clearance. Ordered a low profile right angle that should clear. I actually just ordered Mr. Villena’s last analog I/o board off his site, I like the 9pin 2player snac he incorporated.
@@Gryzor88 I’m actually curious of your opinion on the tri-sync. I have a Blast with a 29” Toshiba/Nanao it’s amazing @ 31khz and good @ 15khz. My naomi looks lcd sharp on the tri-sync but all my 15khz boards look best on my low res monitors. What is your experience? And I’ve kind of fallen in love with the smaller 25” Toshiba tubes in the excellena and Madonna, they are sharper and plenty big. My 29” are almost to much, especially vertical. Cheers.
Yeah, I followed that project a little as well. I was tempted but really wanted to hold out for this project. Pulstar is fantastic, glad you are getting a chance to play that. I really need to revisit the MiSTer core for Neo Geo at some point here in the future.
I just stumbled acoss this video by Chance... Could you pleasse consider linking all the things needed like DE10 etc ? Just so its all in one location... Impressive video. very polished and professional
That pretty much is all that you need; a DE10 Nano and a microSD. You can grab the DE10 Nano on Amazon. I can assume once the MiSTerCade is available misteraddons.com will sell a bundle. He is currently doing that for the MiSTer.
I definitely want to get one but I only have a big red cab that is wired MVS. Do you know if the Mistercade would work with a big red JNX Jamma to MVS adapter? Just curious. Also, the Mister is making me question my Mega SG and Super NT purchases. 😓 As always, great video. Take care!
Yes, if you use JNX's Big Red adapter on this you should be fine. I really want to make that the next video honestly and talk a little about the Neo Geo core.
God I need that. Own about 150 arcade pcb, mvs and CPS games but still this is absolutely awesome. Is there a similar system in the works for 31Khz games ?
I know they don't have the core support, but would be nice to have direct connection for 2x Konami kick harnesses for games like Turtles/Simpsons/X-Men. Granted, each of those are 15 pin each for a total of 30, and the Capcom is 34. So should be able to get them to work with either a re-pin but ideally an adapter harness.
@@ScarletSprites Realize I had a long winded response. But thanks for the time to respond to my original comment. I agree, the cores need work. It's basically my dream to get the Konami 4 player cores on the MiSTer. I know there is interest but it's on core developer's back burner at the moment while they have other projects. I still think the hardware needs to look at the future, or at least allow flexibility with the kick plug for expandability. it would suck to get the cores and the MiSTerCade doesn't support their kick harnesses because it was only wired for a CPS. CPS only uses 11 of 34 connections to get up to 6 buttons per player. So I'm just worried they have those empty connections not hooked up, or not enough inputs available to make adapter harnesses. Sure, I could make a custom Konami kick -> USB controller and plug that into the MiSTer but that kinda defeats the purpose of the MiSTerCade's simplicity. Since you can already hook the MiSTer up to a Jamma with a JPac and a few extra aux boards. Would you by chance know the pin out of the board connector? Neither the Konami or CPS kicks used all their pins, but it would be nice to have upwards of 30 pins available for buttons to map. The Konami harnesses only uses 10 pins per kick of the 15 (20 total for player 3/4) for 3 button, up/down/left/right, coin, start, ground. If you wanted to have a layout that was 4/6/6/4 buttons for a good multi-cade control panel. You'd still need another 6 pin inputs and 2 ground (could do common ground to save pins) to add buttons 4/5/6 for player 1/2. That would give you 28 even without combining grounds, so could work with the CPS kick if it has the inputs. That should pretty much have you covered for probably 99% of 1-4 player arcade control board setups in a single cab.
@@ScarletSprites that's my plan right now. I'm building a JPAC interface with I-PAC4 for P3/P4 for a MAME PC for my TMNT cab. Added bonus, I can plug it into the MiSTer for now. Then, when the MiSTerCADE comes out, it takes out the need for the JPAC and still keep the I-PAC4.
It makes me so happy to see people care so much about legacy gaming that they've come up with these wonderful modern solutions! I wish they could include 3D processing at some point so that PS1 and beyond, N64, GC etc. and other consoles and 3D arcade games could start being ran on FPGA.
The short answer is accuracy. Here is a pretty good example regarding the CPS1 core... www.patreon.com/posts/46899296 But yes, the sheer convenience of a device the size of my hand that plugs directly in without any additional power needs, wires, modifications, is almost reason enough.
@@ScarletSprites don't get me wrong I like emulation, it just makes me appreciate the real thing that much more. It seems like it's great at first then lag and glitches slowly drive me insane.
Exciting to finally see this as a real product. I've had a pi2jamma for years and I'm not thrilled with it for all sorts of reasons. Definitely ready to jump into the MiSTer vortex soon as this device is finally available. Random question: with the MiSTer cores is it possible to utilize cheats for arcade or console games, similar to PC emulators?
@@louisgeorgiou9283 emulation quality is poor for many of the emulators, it's unnecessarily difficult to source the correct rom sets per emulator, and the control configuration is not as easy as it could be for what should be as close to plug and play as possible for an arcade cabinet. In general it's just not very user friendly and I've spent too much time trying to configure the thing, way more than the time spent actually enjoying the games. Everything I've seen so far related to MiSTer and the jamma interface seems to solve most of my existing issues with pi2jamma.
@wej4life thanks for the reply. I’ve seen some emulators on the pi look perfect so was curious how differently they would play than on the real thing or the Mister
I believe if the developer included in the core you can. There are some games that show those in with the DIP switch settings. For things like the Neo Geo you can of course utilize those via the Unibios.
pretty nice jamma board are so big to collect and mister can play ton of other game too. With less them 10 jamma board and some other system (s-tv,mvs, f3) i have alredy taken a big chunk of my storage and with the other system ( console) there not enough place.
Yeah, I’m with you. I think for the most part I have the games I’ve wanted to collect on original hardware. The rest will be likely be MiSTer or nothing at all.
Very awesome. How did you launch the menu to switch cores if you didn’t have the buttons on the board to push? Btw Cadis and Dino’s such an underrated beat em up.
I used the wireless handheld keyboard. The boot last core option is nice for this setup too because it allows you to just turn the machine on and have it load whatever your last game was without fooling around in the menu.
Hey guys couple of questions.... 1. How is this any different from a pandoras box? I have a pandoras box DX and it looks pretty good. 2. Do you have to map the buttons for every single game you play? If so, I would assume the settings are saved.
Was waiting for you to post this vid. Do you think there will be an option implemented in the future to rotate games like donkey Kong etc.? I have my MISTer set up running to both CRT and HDMI Tv’s, but we prefer the CRT. Is it even possible?
A few people have asked that. I'd love to "cheat" and not have to rotate my monitors. I've heard a few developers say its possible but it will introduce lag due to some of the rescaling that would need to happen. How glaring that would be I don't know. I also don't know how large of an effort that is to make it worth anyone's time, but I'd sure like to have the option.
Yeah, I can totally see that happening. I had been using the MiSTer so much and now it’s down in the Astro City. I actually have to turn on these individual consoles!? Haha, it’s probably not a bad thing to be getting use out of the Analogues and CMVS.
Another top, informative, video showcase. I'd be interested to see how 31k games run on the 15k output... I know with the AtomisWave, dipswitch 1 can swap the motherboard between outputting the two resolutions, and the games play great at 15kHz, but can the MiSTerCade effectively do the same thing for all 31kHz games/cores?
I wanted to test this out on the Blast City which is currently JVS wired. I figured 12min was enough for this round but that’s something I may cover in another video.
Cruising series with link play and force feedback support, model 1 and model 2 games with link play, ffb and light gun for lg games, am asking way too much, but some day maybe , i own two crusings usa and two san francisco rush but i wish some day we can have a fpga based hardware of those boards
I hear you on the racers. Man Virtua Racing and Daytona have so many pcbs in them it’s inevitable something will eventually go. It would be amazing to finally just be done with worrying about all that.
Scarlett you can buy Zacarria Platinum Bundle for $75 which gives all all the current tables and 50% any new tables created. Do you think Atgames is charging too much ($200 base price) for the four pinball packs WITHOUT the deluxe tables?
I appreciate that Mark. I tried some different things with this. It quite honestly was a hell of a lot of work. Tons of footage, shots that didn’t work out, a lot that did, editing, color grading of footage, all kinds of stuff I rarely do. This was important to me so I tried to give it extra attention. RUclips is often a platform where there is a race to be first, cover the hot topics, and talk about the latest thing to be announced. I was happy to just take my time and create something I enjoyed with this and not worry about the traditional noise.
My understanding is that 3D games on FPGA are tougher than developing cores for the older 2D platforms. That said, work is being done to prep a Saturn core.
It does, but there is some extra configuration needed beyond the .ini file that I showed using. I may tackle this topic in another video as it seems to be a frequent question.
I'm pretty certain any current JAMMA solution that would be in between the edge and the harness will still work as intended. However, simultaneous output from the DE10's HDMI will work too with some configuration.
How did u not test Neo Geo!?!??? Haha. I figured that would be the first thing tested. But, I’m with you. Once this is readily available...is there even a need for a NeoSD or Darksoft? I’m assuming the load time on the Mister is pretty much instantaneous, right?
That’s probably it’s own video. There are some things to consider for a Neo cab that isn’t straight JAMMA wired (multi-slots). Don’t worry, I have plenty of ideas and topics. This was more of a “first look” type video.
Thanks for the video i have Jamma Expander which is the same as Mister .. my question is how to activate the coin function to my Sega AstroCity cab ? Any idea? Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for this. My ArcadeSD card recently broke, so I am looking for replacement options on a dedicated 4-way/vert cabinet. I do have a question. Do you have to set controls every time it boots or only the fist time you launch the game?
@@ScarletSprites - Thanks, I will definitely be buying this.. Any idea when they will be available for purchase? I went to the link in your description but its not listed yet unless I missed it.
No ETA currently. It’s on a subsequent hardware revision and being tested again. Goal is to offer it to market after having been thoroughly vetted in a number of configurations to really limit the amount of issues to end users. It means that this is taking longer but definitely won’t be pushed out half baked.
Imo it’s a lot easier of a setup process and you won’t get tied down in the weeds of scraping and all the other UI bloat. Just know that not everything is available in MiSTer yet so you may want to hang on to that RetroPie/PC a bit longer.
Very briefly, but yes. It's a harder game for me to gauge from a "feel" standpoint because I play Champion Edition so much more. Overall though, gut and subjective reaction is that its pretty great. I wouldn't know the difference unless you told me I was playing FPGA.
You can have it boot to the menu or change a setting to “boot last core”. In the case of the latter it will load the last core you played ten seconds after booting up.
Incredible video, really well done!
Thanks man, that’s greatly appreciated coming from you.
You guys rock !!!!!🎸 ❤ can't wait to pay. Just take my wallet. ;)
@@ScarletSprites Amazing, Fantastic video. Congrats 👏 👏 👏
@@jeff15 Thanks man!
@@ScarletSprites don't remember if you mentioned it or not. When would this be available for preorder if any? Thanks a lot.
MISTer is where it's at, I will never spend insane money on PCB's anymore.
It's tough to make the argument for the games you aren't overly nostalgic for. Lot's of opinions on this topic though.
Holy crap, this looks AWESOME. Now I won't have to buy a bigger house to setup arcade cabinets!
That is sick af dude, Astro-City plus MiSTer looks like a perfect combo.
Thanks man. I really don’t have any complaints! Everything worked out beautifully.
This is amazing. I already own a MiSTer, I just need a CPS 2 cabinet and a MiSTerCade if I want to build an arcade machine. NeoGeo, CPS1, CPS2 all on the same cabinet? Hell yeah. That's $1000 or more just for boards and multi-game carts I don't need to spend.
I totally agree. You will always have collectors of the things they really love (I'm not unloading my Neo Geo carts), but for the more casual games you just want to play? This more than suffices. It's an amazing bang for the buck.
yo, that reflection of the arcade screens off that shiny board in those macro shots are beautiful. The mistercade looks cool too.
So glad you liked that! That was the intent this past week and I didn’t know how it would turn out but it ended up looking ok for an amateur. I like trying out new things when making videos and this seemed like a prime opportunity to experiment with that theme.
That is pretty much, my dream PCB. Arcade fidelity to the top. Want two!
It's a pretty great (and convenient) way to roll. Definitely would advocate for this as a next best option outside of original pcbs. TONS of bang for your buck too.
Mister development is so good that if you are just interested in playing games and not collecting its perfect.
I’m with you on that. Lots to think about and I’m sure many opinions on this.
Man o man... Great times we live in! I'm so impressed! I need this in my Blast City.
It’s truly a great time indeed. Perfect for candy cabs!
I love mister. I’ve been an early adopter and to see it grow to this is something special.
Being in it for the long haul has to have been something cool to watch unfold. Hell, just while making this video DoDonPachi came out and blew me away.
@@ScarletSprites the mistercade seems like an awesome addon. Now to find my white whale, an Astro city. They just r hard to come by in central pa. I follow that arcade whole seller down in Maryland u mentioned a while back but no luck yet!!
seems like this is going to be the year mister goes main stream . i rember 30 years ago the fpga scene was super niche super nerd stuff now 2021 here we are
Yeah, I recall hearing "of it" but that's about it. It seems being relatively more affordable, getting things organized for mainstream practical use, and a decent online community have really helped bolster popularity. Even the commercial products like those from Analogue have seemingly really taken off.
As a long time MiSTer user I have had a similar experience. It just works. It doesn't have the exact same bells and whistles but it has been extremely reliable for me.
The simplicity of it is fantastic. I love the no fuss just play aspect. For those who do want to dive deeper though you can still peel back the layers.
@@ScarletSprites Same. I know a lot of people are critical of it's interface, but I prefer it honestly. It's got almost no boot time and you can just get in and play.
Omg, I really don’t care about the interface at all. I much prefer low bloat and higher performance. All the scraping and themes and other stuff in alternative formats is a real turnoff to me.
@@ScarletSprites It really has been a "gaming first" kind of experience.
The questions you asked at the end of this video are there same questions I've asked myself but for me it's about the retro consoles I own and collect for. If I setup a MiSTer would I "really" need to collect anything anymore just to put on a shelf, since in actuality, would I want to connect and disconnect my aging consoles anymore. The cost of recap kits, the prices of restoring them, buying upscalers/line doublers, expensive high quality cables for them all and/or buying expensive multi-carts or modding CD drives to use SD cards... The MiSTer is looking more and more worth the value and peace of mind when wanting to play your old retro games. 😭 You have a stick ass setup brother! 🤟😋
There are for sure certain games I love that I just want in my collection. Physical copies of those types of games are what I think I will continue to own. It’s tough to want to chase down something like Willow though. I like it, it’s cool, I’ll play it...but I’m not married to it in any overly special way. In that case, there’s no need for me to chase down the pcb and spend $100s on it.
I definitely like collecting original hardware too. I have a hard time letting go of consoles, but I have done it. I’m much more likely to sell a game than I am hardware if we’re talking consoles.
Good stuff though, and everyone is going to have their own spin on how this affects them.
Great video, thanks! I've been pursuing to get multi capabilities on three systems (CPS2, MVS, and Sega Naomi), but in Brazil, the cost is insanely high. So far, I managed to get a Naomi NetDIMM and a (very poor substitute) 161-in-one cartridge for the MVS; but considering the cost of adquiring a Darksoft CPS2 Multikit and a Terraonion NeoSD Pro, I think you just convinced me to go the FPGA route!
If I was in your situation I’d probably go FPGA route. Sadly, this won’t cover Naomi for you yet but with the Saturn core seeing developments there is at least maybe some sliver of hope that some day it could happen. I’ve always heard 3D is much harder to do FPGA style.
Fantastic video!
To answer your question, I’ll still keep buying multis and original boards within reason, however, I can no longer justify buying expensive boards already on MiSTer (or soon to come) that hold no nostalgia value. I went through the same thing with consoles. I got rid of most of my 8- and 16-bit console games in favor of one MiSTer setup. I kept all of my original games from childhood and I’ll still play those on original hardware. As long as I have a working cabinet with CRT, I’ll keep playing SFII: CE on original hardware. I like multis because they still give the original hardware experience. I may be in the minority but I also like working on old arcade hardware. I’ll pick up the MiSTercade day one.
I totally get that. I think that that question isn't going to have a true black and white answer. I think you'll see a lot of people take a hybrid approach. The games that truly matter to people from a nostalgic standpoint will continue to be ones they chase after or hold onto. The ones they just want to play? Probably ok for FPGA. I definitely think multi purchases will be a split decision too.
Great vid! Now this is something that I am really looking forward to! Primarily for all the classics that are impossible to find. And I think it was the Willow title screen that really sealed the deal!
Hah! I had almost forgotten what it was like to play it. It’s been so long.
Awesome setup, at the moment I can't justify purchasing a MISTer, but it's in the back of my mind for something in the futur.
I hear you. I thought about it MANY times and just couldn't justify the cost. I probably still wouldn't have one had it not been donated.
Great video, I'm so excited for this. I have to say when you started playing SF2 I did immediately think about the DarkSoft CPS1 Multi, I'm sure it will be brilliant but I should imagine the Mister/MisterCade will probably be cheaper and is definitely more versatile. With boards falling over all time it's hard to not see FPGA as the future.
There’s definitely room for both. I suspect more than a few people will even buy both. I guess I just don’t know how many people will decide FPGA is good enough. The arcade crowd is pretty loyal to original hardware so I can certainly see the DS kits continuing to do really well.
Freaking EPIC. As a current MiSTer owner, this makes me really want an Astro City cab. Unfortunately, being in New York City, they're very difficult to come by in the condition I'd want.
Northeast is tough for Candy cabs in general. They’re tough to find or they’re expensive, usually both. I wouldn’t shy away from a smaller Dynamo cab. Usually used for SF2 they have control panels for six buttons ready to go and will be much more plentiful. Also, larger though.
If you’re up for a little road trip, there is an importer in South Carolina that can get an Astro City cabinet. I’ve used him to buy a few candies in the past.
@@mikegreiling care to share a link?
@@mikegreiling I’d be interested in talking to your guy for some cabs
Looking good, I'm glad you could give a positive review on this solution. I totally trust you on this because of the amount of knowledge you got with real hardware :)
Thanks man! It’s a pretty great solution and continues to see more and more added to it. I loved that DoDonPachi dropped in the middle of making this. It’s also quirky fun to play console games on a real arcade too.
Looks really good. I like how everything is integrated into the pcb. A 3d printed shell would be nice to just throw it into a cab. I've gone the j-pac route as it's supported in Mister and had one laying around from the old mame pc in a cab days of the early 2000s. 😁
I agree that we definitely will need a case once the final design is agreed on. I'm sure once that happens you'll have several people offering up their takes on a case.
Good call on the Cads and Dinos PCB, have you seen how much originals sell for now, crazy $$$$.
Even if this wasn't going into a cabinet, this would still be cool to use through JAMMA to play those arcade titles that didn't run through JAMMA to begin with. As long as your supergun of choice has an RGB or Component out option you're set to play on any good CRT or upscaler like the OSSC. Many superguns also allow DB15 and USB connections for controllers these days to, pretty nifty if your prefer to play with a USB arcade stick, USB retro controllers like the Saturn or SNES options that exist, modern controllers like the PS4 or Xbox One and anything with a DB15 connector like Neo Geo or any custom DB15 DIY stick. Still not sure about the overall price of a MISTER though, the money spent on one can be spent on most real JAMMA arcade boards with some change to spare. Again though, the advantage would be to play the arcade games that were not originally JAMMA.
That’s for sure a nice perk; avoiding any adapters you’d otherwise need like you mentioned. As far as the Supergun goes though, I’d probably just skip the MiSTerCade addon entirely and just roll with MiSTer to keep things simple.
This is what Ive been hoping was out there. I just got two candies that don't have pcb's. Now I'm going to get these and will be good to go.
Everytime , you have what to learn from Joe ! Thank you sir !
Good to hear from you man. Exciting times!
This is definitely a game changer, forget arpicade, mame and the others...here comes a new challenger!
I look forward to picking this up and the ds cps1 still, I like having options. Haha!
Nothing wrong with that! I suspect people will be all over the place with how they handle things going forward. Lots to choose from.
Super cool. Ive only got the "digital" version of Mister (no IO board) I can't imagine how great these games must look in person on that Astro City monitor!!
It’s a great addon that I think a lot of people are going to be happy with.
Glad you got this going! You did it justice just like I knew you would!
Thanks man, much appreciated. More to come.
This is the first video I've seen from you... instant subscribe!
Thanks for stopping by, glad you enjoyed the video. Hope you’ll stick around for more.
Man, look at all the goodies that Scarlet has everywhere you look. I wish I had them in my collection to have 100X the fun you have bro. Never a dull moment for sure. 8^)
Anthony..
Thanks for stopping by again man.
This is amazing!
I love watching your genuine excitement about mister.
I’m going to take the plunge and get one!
Yes! Do it man!
God damn I'm hyped, I think you half answered your question about Multi solutions, I don't really want to sell mine, but would I buy more now? Probably not. It's weird, but it's actually a bit similar to my mvs, I don't really want to sell them even if I have a darksoft mvs. Collecting curse maybe, or just fetishism for authenticity. Anyway thanks for some arcade ASMR, it looked great
Thanks man. I would agree, I’m probably sitting in that hybrid zone with this. I’m not unloading anything I already have (Darksoft or original PCBs) but will I pursue more? Probably not. You can definitely cross me off the list of people thinking they were ever going to by Cave pcbs, lol.
Pretty awesome just wish I had the room for a dedicated cabinet!
Well, there's still standard MiSTer which plays all these games pretty greatly on CRT or modern LCD. If you ever get room for a cab you're halfway prepped!
I’m even more hyped after this, great video!
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it.
Great video bro, I can see you’re really Geek’d out about it! Mister is truly Amazing!
The options continue to grow. It’s a pretty cool format that seems to always have something else waiting just around the corner.
This is too cool! Also, the natural arcade lighting turned out very well.
Thanks man, that was a fun thing I challenged myself with.
Now you need 2. One for horizontal and one for vertical games. :D
You’re totally correct. I really do want a dedicated cabinet for vertical games. That’s probably the first part of the solution before more MiSTers.
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks man.
Great video have a quick question I just purchased the Mistercade full kit with DE10 nano. I have a brand new 24.8 flat CRT try sync Arcade monitor here are the
SPECS:
The horizontal synchronization signal frequency is 15 K 24 and 31K automatically vertical synchronization’s signal frequency is between 47 and 70 Hz
video is TTL between 2.5 to 5.0 Vp-p at 1 k ohm impedance and the analog is 0.7 V PP 75 ohm impedance, the resolution it supports is 560 x 240, 640x350, and 640 x 480
Signal connector 6pin (RGB, GND, H+V, V) or 15 pin D-Sub ( Male)
I am totally new to this project you mentioned in the beginning of the video that all you need to do is grab his files and change the Mr. INI 15 kHz and 31 kHz so my question is does Mistercade supports all three frequencies 15 kHz 24 kHz and 31 kHz is there a Mr. INI 24 kHz? . Thanks
I believe it is still 15 and 31. The GitHub link indicates that as well.
@@ScarletSprites Thank you!
nice option for cab owners to play all instead of needing to convert to mame or pie etc
Yeah, or even swapping boards out. Plug and play, no swapping.
Thanks for this. I'm finally going this way with my MVS cab-probably on a jamma switcher so it is still 'a real arcade'. I've already grabbed a second MiSTer for the purpose, because here in 2022, the odds are super-slim of getting a both a DE-10 and a MiSTercade available at the same time. Everything related to MiSTer seems to have become 'sign up for the availability email'😢
You’re not kidding about the availability. I’m still kind of mad that I didn’t grab a third DE10 but that’s just the way it goes.
At this point, I'm surprised companies like Capcom don't just sell their own FPGA based arcade boards. There is clearly a demand for this type of stuff with the prices of original boards on ebay, and emulated alternatives like Pandora Boxes.
This is so exciting to see come to fruition. There was a Tapper arcade cabinet in the last venue I used to go to that shut down for shows. It was never powered on / working lol.
Do 15khz monitors whine btw? I feel like they would.
There is the high pitched sound you can usually hear when they first kick on but I honestly never notice it afterwards.
Make an offer on that Tapper, lol. They’re so expensive even when not working.
It's probably been liquidated by now, unfortunately.
I'm the same way with consumer sets, but I also use headphones so I almost never notice it.
With an arcade cab though, I'd just be using the speakers. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why (iirc) the Neo Geo stuff went with 24khz monitors.
Tube whine never bothered me, but I know not everyone has 5 CRTs in their home they use regularly lol.
Great video thx!
I am new to Mister and I wonder if there is a way to make it a seamless arcade experience:
- Can it autoload the last game on startup? Is there a procedure to turn it off or do you simply power off your cabinet like you would with the real hardware?
- Can you configure the ingame menu hotkey on something else than the cabinet’s panel? It would be nice to have something similar to the MVS unibios « arcade protect » mode (use of test / service switches combination to access the mister menu for instance).
You can have it boot to the last core upon startup. There is a ten second countdown for this. I’m told that is needed in order to fully initialize the ram. Think of it the same as a normal pcb, you would just power down the cabinet. Some cores will support hot key menu but not all. For now I find having the keyboard best.
This is amazing - I would probably work to make a mini arcade. I totally would go ham if they made Mortal Kombat on this, but the huge Capcom library is a nice alternative. I have no familiarity with Mister but this is an amazing project.
There has been a lot of chatter about Midway games lately. For sure MK and NBA Jam are big on everyone's list right now. This device has been amazing even in the short time I've had it. More cores seem to be in the works and rolling out monthly. CPS2 is about to drop and I think that alone will put a lot of people over the edge.
Such great video dude. I'm really lookong forward to the CPS2 core and have patreon for Jotego. Puzzle fighter 2 is a game I remember spending far too much time on the PS1 back in the day and it's amazing playing it again on an arcade stick. When marvel Vs capcom is released I may have to stump up the cash for an astro city candy cab. I think the mister project is one of the best things to happen to the arcade scene. I just hope that there is some way we can see a revival of arcades of old. With the development of mister, the expensive failing PCBs can be sent of to a museum/collector and replaced with mistercades. I just hope that the industry looks into a way of doing this to bring some money and development of the mister FPGA project. I would rather see this happen than it go down the route of capcom and the final burn catastrophe that happened with the capcom home arcade. I'm sure if money was to be ploughed back into the project more of these old boards could be documented/simulated in the same way the mame project has done. The difference is we will have near perfect accuracy it terms of speed and more importantly the sound.
Thanks man, much appreciated. As an owner of the Darksoft CPS2 kit, I'm still very much looking forward to that for comparisons sake. I want the core to be so good that it makes me regret spending money on the DS kit. I have little doubt Jotego will do it justice.
Looks awesome! Coupled with that Big Blue is a drool worthy killer combo.
The CPS1 games on Big Blue is no doubt a delight! It’s a sweet little device.
This is cool as hell. It really does revolutionize some shizz. And it was a great looking video to boot. I could definitely see investing in this. I gotta get my daggum garage done, yo.
You already have the damn machines! You're like me and my basement. Need to hit pause to actually get the space in order.
That looks fantastic. The only downside is that you can't run vertical games properly due to the cores not being able to rotate - you would need to run a scaler mode, which probably wouldn't work on a 15hz arcade monitor, it doesn't on my Sony PVM.
You rotate the monitor.
It would be sweet if you could cheat and play the vertical games in horizontal mode. I've heard potential talks of that and the lag it would potentially introduce. It would be cool to have the option at least. Otherwise, yeah, you're rotating the monitor in your cabs.
Super Excited to get a MISTer, but I want it for the arcade games, and I really want an authentic arcade experience. - I dont have a cab, but I was looking at the SEGA Saturn Virtua Stick USB CS2-0007 --- Without soldering or assembling - what is the absolute best off the shelf stick thats gonna get me close to that authentic Big Blue feel?
I really only have two; the Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro and the Sega Astro City. The latter, if still available, is a pretty damn good USB stick and comes with Sanwa parts.
Looking awesome in the real cabs. Don't know why none of the cores let you map the Test button though. I assume you still have to make sure to hit a button on P1's side before trying to start a game on P2, otherwise the controls get swapped?
edit: ah right after I posted that, Jotego released a new update where the F2 key on the keyboard can be used to get into the test menu for cps1/1.5
I like when people answer their own questions, lol! Good thinking though.
I have never missed my Egret II more than I do watching this video.
Welp, that settles it. I need a MiSTerCade and another candy cabinet.
That’s a prime cab for this given it’s easy monitor rotation. I’d love to find one of those some day.
@@ScarletSprites Egret II prices have exploded. Will cost you at least 2500 euros nowdays. Better to get an astro city, which is about exactly the same, for half the price.
You mentioned your bad experience with pi2jamma, but have you tried RGB-Pi? I demo the Scart version on my channel but there’s also a Jamma version. Mister is very sweet, but if you wanting support for more arcades and for much less money than a mister setup then check out RGB-Pi Jamma edition.
No, I stopped after the Pi2Jamma debacle. Truth be told, and this is a personal decision, but I feel like if you’re going to the trouble to restore and make room for a genuine cabinet you should do it justice with an original hardware as well. The MiSTerCade is the first non-Darksoft multi solution that has intrigued me. I’m not saying the software emulation solutions aren’t fantastic, just that when it comes to the cabinets I’ve been more picky about what goes inside them.
Couldn't wait for you to post this one. Were you able to tell the difference between the Neo Geo core vs your original hardware? Was there any lag on the controls?
I played a little Windjammers on the Big Red (video not shown, lol). I have some things I want to work out with that but the short answer is no, and I think it's an awesome option for anyone out there who was considering a multicart.
great video! do you need to adjust the screen after switching games or cores?
I did have to do that a few times. Same deal when switching between original pcbs really. You can see that on the Joust title screen in the video, whereas Tapper was fine, Kung Fu needed a height adjustment. On the Big Blue though, all the CPS1 games were fine once the first was adjusted.
Great video thanks! Not sure if asked before, but how or what’s the best way to obtain an Astro City Candy Cab, or any good quality jamma cab for that matter? Would love to have a mistercade set up like yours someday, but don’t know where to start when it comes to actually procuring the cab... thanks!
Candy Cabs will vary by region. It's way easier to get them on the West Coast than other locations, but not impossible. I'd watch local listings (FB Marketplace, Craigslist, etc.) for something with a six button setup. If you're patient you can land something decent for ~$500, although that may vary depending on where you live. I'd argue the monitor is maybe the most important thing to be sure is good if its your first rodeo.
Wow that is soooo cool. Only time will tell how this will effect the arcade market
You’ll still have your die hards for sure. I think original hardware, especially with this audience, is always going to carry a high level of interest.
I just hooked up Antonio Villena’s Jamma adapter yesterday on my Excellena...pulsar neo geo and super Metroid on snes are amazing rgb ttl
James Ross Same setup here, but on a Taito Egret with a 15/24/31 Khz monitor.
I still want a MiSTercade though, cause direct to JAMMA is preferable to USB.
@@Gryzor88 yes. And Mr. Villena’s board mates up to his own analog I/o PCB much better. I’m running an analog I/o from misteraddons and the dsubs are 180 out from each other, the jamma adapter is now upside down with the cps2 kick harness routed down. And the jamma board blocks the 3.5mm audio out, about 5/16” clearance. Ordered a low profile right angle that should clear. I actually just ordered Mr. Villena’s last analog I/o board off his site, I like the 9pin 2player snac he incorporated.
James Ross Yup, Antonio‘s implemented DB9 SNAC is the main reason I‘ve bought two of his MiSTer devices :)
@@Gryzor88 I’m actually curious of your opinion on the tri-sync. I have a Blast with a 29” Toshiba/Nanao it’s amazing @ 31khz and good @ 15khz. My naomi looks lcd sharp on the tri-sync but all my 15khz boards look best on my low res monitors. What is your experience? And I’ve kind of fallen in love with the smaller 25” Toshiba tubes in the excellena and Madonna, they are sharper and plenty big. My 29” are almost to much, especially vertical. Cheers.
Yeah, I followed that project a little as well. I was tempted but really wanted to hold out for this project. Pulstar is fantastic, glad you are getting a chance to play that. I really need to revisit the MiSTer core for Neo Geo at some point here in the future.
I just stumbled acoss this video by Chance... Could you pleasse consider linking all the things needed like DE10 etc ?
Just so its all in one location... Impressive video. very polished and professional
That pretty much is all that you need; a DE10 Nano and a microSD. You can grab the DE10 Nano on Amazon. I can assume once the MiSTerCade is available misteraddons.com will sell a bundle. He is currently doing that for the MiSTer.
I definitely want to get one but I only have a big red cab that is wired MVS. Do you know if the Mistercade would work with a big red JNX Jamma to MVS adapter? Just curious. Also, the Mister is making me question my Mega SG and Super NT purchases. 😓 As always, great video. Take care!
Yes, if you use JNX's Big Red adapter on this you should be fine. I really want to make that the next video honestly and talk a little about the Neo Geo core.
@@ScarletSprites awesome. Cant wait!
God I need that. Own about 150 arcade pcb, mvs and CPS games but still this is absolutely awesome. Is there a similar system in the works for 31Khz games ?
Yes, you’d just use the 31kHz ini file instead of the 15kHz one I showed in the video.
This is amazingly big!
this is amazing, thanks for sharing. I need this.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I would concur that you need this, lol.
I know they don't have the core support, but would be nice to have direct connection for 2x Konami kick harnesses for games like Turtles/Simpsons/X-Men. Granted, each of those are 15 pin each for a total of 30, and the Capcom is 34. So should be able to get them to work with either a re-pin but ideally an adapter harness.
We need to get someone working on those cores first.
@@ScarletSprites Realize I had a long winded response. But thanks for the time to respond to my original comment.
I agree, the cores need work. It's basically my dream to get the Konami 4 player cores on the MiSTer. I know there is interest but it's on core developer's back burner at the moment while they have other projects. I still think the hardware needs to look at the future, or at least allow flexibility with the kick plug for expandability. it would suck to get the cores and the MiSTerCade doesn't support their kick harnesses because it was only wired for a CPS. CPS only uses 11 of 34 connections to get up to 6 buttons per player. So I'm just worried they have those empty connections not hooked up, or not enough inputs available to make adapter harnesses.
Sure, I could make a custom Konami kick -> USB controller and plug that into the MiSTer but that kinda defeats the purpose of the MiSTerCade's simplicity. Since you can already hook the MiSTer up to a Jamma with a JPac and a few extra aux boards.
Would you by chance know the pin out of the board connector? Neither the Konami or CPS kicks used all their pins, but it would be nice to have upwards of 30 pins available for buttons to map. The Konami harnesses only uses 10 pins per kick of the 15 (20 total for player 3/4) for 3 button, up/down/left/right, coin, start, ground. If you wanted to have a layout that was 4/6/6/4 buttons for a good multi-cade control panel. You'd still need another 6 pin inputs and 2 ground (could do common ground to save pins) to add buttons 4/5/6 for player 1/2. That would give you 28 even without combining grounds, so could work with the CPS kick if it has the inputs. That should pretty much have you covered for probably 99% of 1-4 player arcade control board setups in a single cab.
At this point I think you can expect any 3P or 4P extensions (for games that would support it) to be handled via a USB encoder.
@@ScarletSprites that's my plan right now. I'm building a JPAC interface with I-PAC4 for P3/P4 for a MAME PC for my TMNT cab. Added bonus, I can plug it into the MiSTer for now. Then, when the MiSTerCADE comes out, it takes out the need for the JPAC and still keep the I-PAC4.
It makes me so happy to see people care so much about legacy gaming that they've come up with these wonderful modern solutions!
I wish they could include 3D processing at some point so that PS1 and beyond, N64, GC etc. and other consoles and 3D arcade games could start being ran on FPGA.
Going to be putting one if these in my JAMMA cab when available. Great video.
Thanks man! It’s only a beta but it’s already impressive. Final product should be fantastic.
Other than the handy IO, why is this better than pushing RGB off a low buck PC with an ArcadeVGA or ati firmware mod?
The short answer is accuracy. Here is a pretty good example regarding the CPS1 core...
www.patreon.com/posts/46899296
But yes, the sheer convenience of a device the size of my hand that plugs directly in without any additional power needs, wires, modifications, is almost reason enough.
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have been waiting for CPS2 when it comes out I'm tossing it in my cab. Imo having seemingly no lag is how I always want to play my games
Yeah this is a dream for that and a must for the fighting game fans out there.
@@ScarletSprites don't get me wrong I like emulation, it just makes me appreciate the real thing that much more. It seems like it's great at first then lag and glitches slowly drive me insane.
Exciting to finally see this as a real product. I've had a pi2jamma for years and I'm not thrilled with it for all sorts of reasons. Definitely ready to jump into the MiSTer vortex soon as this device is finally available.
Random question: with the MiSTer cores is it possible to utilize cheats for arcade or console games, similar to PC emulators?
Hi, can I ask what was wrong with the pi2jamma setup?
@@louisgeorgiou9283 emulation quality is poor for many of the emulators, it's unnecessarily difficult to source the correct rom sets per emulator, and the control configuration is not as easy as it could be for what should be as close to plug and play as possible for an arcade cabinet. In general it's just not very user friendly and I've spent too much time trying to configure the thing, way more than the time spent actually enjoying the games. Everything I've seen so far related to MiSTer and the jamma interface seems to solve most of my existing issues with pi2jamma.
@wej4life thanks for the reply. I’ve seen some emulators on the pi look perfect so was curious how differently they would play than on the real thing or the Mister
I believe if the developer included in the core you can. There are some games that show those in with the DIP switch settings. For things like the Neo Geo you can of course utilize those via the Unibios.
I think that's a great unit for people who own a arcade at home
It's been like a dream.
pretty nice jamma board are so big to collect and mister can play ton of other game too. With less them 10 jamma board and some other system (s-tv,mvs, f3) i have alredy taken a big chunk of my storage and with the other system ( console) there not enough place.
Yeah, I’m with you. I think for the most part I have the games I’ve wanted to collect on original hardware. The rest will be likely be MiSTer or nothing at all.
Thank you for the heads up.
You bet, glad you stopped by.
Very awesome. How did you launch the menu to switch cores if you didn’t have the buttons on the board to push? Btw Cadis and Dino’s such an underrated beat em up.
I used the wireless handheld keyboard. The boot last core option is nice for this setup too because it allows you to just turn the machine on and have it load whatever your last game was without fooling around in the menu.
How does FPGA handle playing vector arcade games, such as Tempest, Asteroids, or Space Duel on a raster monitor?
Hey guys couple of questions....
1. How is this any different from a pandoras box? I have a pandoras box DX and it looks pretty good.
2. Do you have to map the buttons for every single game you play? If so, I would assume the settings are saved.
Was waiting for you to post this vid. Do you think there will be an option implemented in the future to rotate games like donkey Kong etc.? I have my MISTer set up running to both CRT and HDMI Tv’s, but we prefer the CRT. Is it even possible?
A few people have asked that. I'd love to "cheat" and not have to rotate my monitors. I've heard a few developers say its possible but it will introduce lag due to some of the rescaling that would need to happen. How glaring that would be I don't know. I also don't know how large of an effort that is to make it worth anyone's time, but I'd sure like to have the option.
@@ScarletSprites Definitely don’t want to introduce lag. Thanks for the info
I predict u getting another extra mister JUST BECAUSE. Also, can u do any MAME vs Mister comparisons on certain games in the future? Great video. 🤙🏾💯
Yeah, I can totally see that happening. I had been using the MiSTer so much and now it’s down in the Astro City. I actually have to turn on these individual consoles!? Haha, it’s probably not a bad thing to be getting use out of the Analogues and CMVS.
Another top, informative, video showcase. I'd be interested to see how 31k games run on the 15k output... I know with the AtomisWave, dipswitch 1 can swap the motherboard between outputting the two resolutions, and the games play great at 15kHz, but can the MiSTerCade effectively do the same thing for all 31kHz games/cores?
I wanted to test this out on the Blast City which is currently JVS wired. I figured 12min was enough for this round but that’s something I may cover in another video.
@@ScarletSprites Brilliant. Look forward to it. Opening up 31kHz games to 15kHz cab owners would be huge!
Cruising series with link play and force feedback support, model 1 and model 2 games with link play, ffb and light gun for lg games, am asking way too much, but some day maybe , i own two crusings usa and two san francisco rush but i wish some day we can have a fpga based hardware of those boards
I hear you on the racers. Man Virtua Racing and Daytona have so many pcbs in them it’s inevitable something will eventually go. It would be amazing to finally just be done with worrying about all that.
The MiSTerCade is arcade heaven.
It really was. There is an aspect of pure convenience that I really appreciate as well.
This is pretty amazing. I see it's sold out, no surprise. Those lucky enough to have cabinets must be keen to get this thing
It’s pretty sweet. Kind of like the ultimate multi cart if you’re ok with FPGA vs. real hardware.
finally an alternative to all those expansive arcade pcbs which half of the time doesn't work
Wanted it before, double want it now!
You're welcome, lol.
Thought I noticed one of the cave shmups in the video dodonpachi. One of my personal favs.
You sure did. It's one of the newer additions to the core lineup!
Scarlett you can buy Zacarria Platinum Bundle for $75 which gives all all the current tables and 50% any new tables created. Do you think Atgames is charging too much ($200 base price) for the four pinball packs WITHOUT the deluxe tables?
I think I mentioned before that I don't know anything about virtual pinball.
One of your best vids to date.
I appreciate that Mark. I tried some different things with this. It quite honestly was a hell of a lot of work. Tons of footage, shots that didn’t work out, a lot that did, editing, color grading of footage, all kinds of stuff I rarely do. This was important to me so I tried to give it extra attention. RUclips is often a platform where there is a race to be first, cover the hot topics, and talk about the latest thing to be announced. I was happy to just take my time and create something I enjoyed with this and not worry about the traditional noise.
Dumb question.
Will it be able to blitz and showtime ?
My understanding is that 3D games on FPGA are tougher than developing cores for the older 2D platforms. That said, work is being done to prep a Saturn core.
Does this output video and audio via the DE-10 nano HDMI port?
It does, but there is some extra configuration needed beyond the .ini file that I showed using. I may tackle this topic in another video as it seems to be a frequent question.
Does this board have any use for those of us that have a JVS cab? Because that would probably push me over the edge to get one.
Get your credit card ready. 😉
Just curious, is there any chance of an external video out for someone to say livestream purposes? Like play on arcade and capture via video out?
I'm pretty certain any current JAMMA solution that would be in between the edge and the harness will still work as intended. However, simultaneous output from the DE10's HDMI will work too with some configuration.
i have a pi2jamma setup and yeah i'm drooling over this, can you map combos for credit/exit game (i use up +start for credit for example)
How did u not test Neo Geo!?!??? Haha. I figured that would be the first thing tested. But, I’m with you. Once this is readily available...is there even a need for a NeoSD or Darksoft? I’m assuming the load time on the Mister is pretty much instantaneous, right?
That’s probably it’s own video. There are some things to consider for a Neo cab that isn’t straight JAMMA wired (multi-slots). Don’t worry, I have plenty of ideas and topics. This was more of a “first look” type video.
Thanks for the video i have Jamma Expander which is the same as Mister .. my question is how to activate the coin function to my Sega AstroCity cab ? Any idea?
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for this. My ArcadeSD card recently broke, so I am looking for replacement options on a dedicated 4-way/vert cabinet. I do have a question. Do you have to set controls every time it boots or only the fist time you launch the game?
No, they save after setup thankfully. You can of course remap at any time of you want to change your layout however.
@@ScarletSprites - Thanks, I will definitely be buying this.. Any idea when they will be available for purchase? I went to the link in your description but its not listed yet unless I missed it.
No ETA currently. It’s on a subsequent hardware revision and being tested again. Goal is to offer it to market after having been thoroughly vetted in a number of configurations to really limit the amount of issues to end users. It means that this is taking longer but definitely won’t be pushed out half baked.
@@ScarletSprites - Sent you an email to your gmail account.
background music looks awesome ...takes me away back...whats the name
Really tempted to buy a MISTer and say goodbye to all sorts of MAME.
Imo it’s a lot easier of a setup process and you won’t get tied down in the weeds of scraping and all the other UI bloat. Just know that not everything is available in MiSTer yet so you may want to hang on to that RetroPie/PC a bit longer.
Tested SFII: Hyper Fighting on your MiSTer? If so, does it feel like the correct speed? Thanks 👍🏼
Very briefly, but yes. It's a harder game for me to gauge from a "feel" standpoint because I play Champion Edition so much more. Overall though, gut and subjective reaction is that its pretty great. I wouldn't know the difference unless you told me I was playing FPGA.
Awesome!
Thanks man, I really thought it was too.
What happens on startup? Can you just turn the power of the cabinet on(or strip of cabinets) and it goes into a game?
You can have it boot to the menu or change a setting to “boot last core”. In the case of the latter it will load the last core you played ten seconds after booting up.
@@ScarletSprites that’s great!