STUPID Comparison is EYE Opening | STIHL vs Husqvarna vs ECHO
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- How does the ECHO CS-620P compare to the Husqvarna 562XP and STIHL MS460???
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Super dave is a Echo wizard, his porting technique is very scientific and his results show the fruit of his fastidiousness...
His attention to detail is insane! If he wants it, he will go VERY far IMO. Thank you for watching and appreciate you sharing the kind words about Dave!
Great comparison and editing👍🏻
Thank you AP. Super fun and I thought the results were interesting. I thought the 562 would kill the 620s in all honesty. The 460 needs more wood
Always fun to make some noise and play with the saws a bit. Nice video.
Dude, it is a BLAST! So much fun to get together with a great friend and Subscriber of the channel!
Sweetness!!
Now I wish we grabbed the 660 and tested. All the saws are excellent, we went so fast it’s hard to feel them.
Dude! I am so glad you made it by buddy! The Video is a hit so I thank you VERY Much for making it possible Mark!
Awesome! Yeah that’s a lot of views fast! Must be because Stihl is in the title lol
very possible!
Mr Joe Awesome comparison. I really feel the exile muffle cover helped that 460 out alot on the low end.
I am taking it to the next level this week buddy!
That Husky 562 sure has a nice sound. It’s nice and throaty!! Nice video.
it is BEAUTIFUL! Thank you for watching!
I'm so glad I picked up a new Echo 620 before the California engine ban. I love all my Huskies and Stihls, but I have Echos from the mid 70's that start in 2 pulls still. $600 for a saw that runs like this? Fantastic. Great saws, fun comparison!
Excellent saw indeed! I gotta ask, I remember years ago (I came from CA myself) they were pushing to eliminate blowers I believe. I wanna say it had something to do with noise and air quality. I don't know if that was city or county laws or what. Then last I asked my cousin, he said they basically tried it and it didn't work so the blowers came back. Now in terms of what you are speaking of, what is the deadline for such a ban? From the way you talk about it, I assume once you have it you are grandfathered in? Thanks for sharing and watching!
@@oakiewoodsman As of January 1st of 2024, all small gasoline powered engines manufactured after January 2024 are banned from sale in California. Lawn mowers, leaf blowers, chainsaws, trimmers, etc., across the board with the exception of gas generators. Even generators will be banned above a certain displacement (like 600cc's) after 2028. Fortunately we're not banned from using tools we already have and buying parts. In my opinion this is a ridiculous law for a large number of reasons... It is really going to affect the wood burning lower income parts of Northern California, including me, my friends and family. If i had to buy an electric equivalent saw and batteries to run in the woods to cut the 8-15 cords a year I need, I would be spending $3500+. We can't afford that. Sorry to rant, haha, but you asked!
I did not realize this had already happened. Any exclusions for the logging industry? That is incredible…….. especially since CA had an abundance of Electric available 😉
Good fun stuff!
For sure Ted!
Fancy comparison! I think the saws that have your logo on the bar cut the fastest🤓
hahahaha.... thanks for watching and noticing my branding having an advantage! hahaha
Very interesting Mr. OAKIE...
Thank you Brian. Kinda was surprised. As you well know, different wood diameter and different species along with different raker heights could alter the whole test. This hackberry is relatively soft and cuts nicely.
They all seemed to be running just fine although with the 562 I did expect a bit more, especially with the shorter bar.
I did too. Have you seen the ECHO Comparison video, the first one in the series. Believe it or not, my 28" with my questionable hand file beat the 24" NIB chain on the same saw. Very interesting stuff!
@@oakiewoodsman I didn't see that one but I am aware of how good the Echo 590 and 620 are. A friend of mine has both and I don't think he has ever cleaned the aircleaners on them.
They run pretty darn good.
There is a reason they have a 5 year consumer warranty. Thank you again!
Mark you have a nice collection of saw's
He sure does! He is kinda has the bug
I'd love to see a sound level comparison done as well. Too many equate loud pipes with better performance. Personally I'd like a saw that rips into it and the sound doesn't rattle your teeth.
That is a good idea. I think that would require a decibel meter to do properly.
Well that is interesting!
Again a lot of variables, if you went out next week and did all the same tests the results may be different. But that is how testing goes! They are tools/toys and in reality 99% of people cant notice a 1 second difference in a 20 second cut in real life so they should all be just fine to work with.
Good words dave! Lots of variable including operator comfort and familiarity.
Well put!
You should get that 460 ported and consider installing the max flow air filter system, that will really make that saw one heck of a screamer in the wood. Especially in bigger wood. Take care and happy sawing!
honestly, I kinda wanna leave it alone short of messing with the exhaust. I think the saw is so good from the factory and it earned the legend status it has. It is very easy starting and once the rings seat a bit more, I think it will build more power. I also have some gains left in the muffler. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@oakiewoodsman That’s alright man! Those 460s are great running saws, I understand why you probably don’t want to mess with it
@@wadepennington1733 The cylinder had some aluminum transfer that I cleaned out of it and i put the Meteor piston in it. If I were to get it ported, I would likely want the full rebuild. All new lines, seals, bearings Etc. I really am not in that place just yet..... maybe someday!
These tests really don't determine anything as far as performance.
They only thing to take away is the weight, noise, and maintenance. The cutting is completely up to the chain. A Walmart saw with the proper bite can out perform the best with a junk chain.
Are you suggesting the Stihl was running a dull chain? I would actually say that the Stihl and the Husky quite possibly had the advantage in the chain dept. The ECHO saws were running factory grind Dukes Chains. The 562 was running a 20" bar and many ppl suggest a shorter bar is much quicker. The 460 was running a 24. In the previous testing my 28" bar with a hand file was actually neck and neck with the new 24" Dukes. This test although not perfect, Still is impressive and it is NOT saying anything bad about the 460 at all. Thanks for watching and commenting
The biggest problem with comparing auto tune to not auto tuned is the unfair advantages in the chain speed differences. The 562's are screamers and run best after doing a tuning cut and running high octane fuel.
Thanks for sharing. I am strongly against the "field reset every time the weather changes" and the reason is, if that is a must, the technology needs to be improved significantly more. I do however find that the saw adapts relatively quickly and it really doesn't take long! Love the AutoTune! Prior. All the saws were played around with prior to the test cuts. Thank you for watching and sharing!
👍👍 interesting. Thought you he 460 would have taken the day.
Me TOO! I kinda was surprised. Also, I kinda thought the cut where I dogged in would be faster but I was wrong there too!
Basically your front ports on stihl saws is making them weaker in the cut
Jake, I am interested to see if this is the case. More testing coming! This saw should still have back pressure because the baffle is still in there. Does that change your perception?
@@oakiewoodsman Just has been my experience trying different muffler set ups on my 461s,I run the Chinese mufflers so they have no baffle but I only use side ports after many cuts buried in hardwoods with only ever 20inch bars full comp chisel chain 3/8 063 the side ports definitely give more low down grunt but yes cut a little slower in the smaller Timbers if that makes sense
Thanks for the information
hi there interesting , john
Thank you John. Hope you are well and thanks for watching!
Mornin
Morning Man!
On another note, I wanted to mention about previous videos that I wanted to reply to you about that I use Shakespeare Ugly Line in 800 foot rolls for about $33-35 from Lowe's. It's kind of triangle shaped line and I find it extremely durable. I also prefer the larger Echo Speedfeed 450 head over the 400 head. It's bigger, so I have less of a tendency to gauge the dirt and skim across it better, plus the bigger head holds more line in it. I have the PAS266 split boom straight shaft weed eater that Echo had still for 2 years after the 2620 came out. I bought mine in June 2015 and it was discontinued after the 2016 model year I believe. I also have a PAS225 and SRM225. Plus a hedge trimmer and leaf blower and multiple attachments for the PAS266. Edger, pole saw, 3 foot extension, hedge trimmer, brush cutter
what size is the line? The stuff I was using in that video is roughly half the cost because the retail on it is similar but the length is darn near 1400 feet if I remember correctly. Now, if the Triangle stuff works better, it certainly could be worth it! Sounds like you have a super great setup with the 266 unit. Are all of the PAS attachments compatible? I knew they had a larger head but had never heard any feedback. Thanks for sharing John!
@@oakiewoodsman .095 diameter Shakespeare Ugly Line 800 foot roll at Lowe's. It's on Amazon too. It's around $33-35 a roll before taxes. I really like it. The guy from the RUclips channel Geek to Freak said that he used it probably way back in 2014-2016. He shut down that RUclips channel after that. He was in St. Louis I believe. I think you can still search his channel on RUclips and watch the videos. He was a huge lawn mowing channel back then, a single dad of 2 or 3 daughters I think. Sounded like a very nice guy.
@@oakiewoodsmanall of the ones I have would fit both the PAS225 and PAS266 and of course they would fit on your PAS2620. I really like the Speedfeed 450 head. I think you should try it and the Shakespeare Ugly Line in .095. I've never seen it in other sizes, but maybe it is available in different sizes too. I don't know. .095 makes the most sense though of course.
I wondered what happened to the channel? Interesting when that sort of stuff happens.
@@oakiewoodsman he just decided to quit the channel and continue a different channel involving his young daughter(s?) doing a toy channel. I think they were doing toy reviews or something like that. I can't remember if he had one daughter or 2 daughters anymore though. It's been at least 7 or 8 years ago now, maybe even 10 years.
If you had a Pioneer P61 you would be in business.
Thanks for watching! There is always another saw right?
@@oakiewoodsman Try one if you have a chance. The torque is unreal.
I have heard good things!
All these front ported mufflers do not allow the saw to create more torque they just allow the saw to rev up quicker and flow better all throughout but you will loose some bottom end power compared to just a bit bigger than stock side only ports
I am kinda searching to see if that is the case. I think that in some scenarios that may be true, but not always. Thanks for watching
@@oakiewoodsman so ye all good in soft wood to run whatever set up but in Aussie hardwoods I much prefer low end power or the saw just bogs
Ahhhhhh Australia! That stuff looks hard!
Where the 460 (and 461's) shines is with a long bar in big wood. Rocking back and forth just proved my theory that all that extra farting around makes them actually cut slower versus just having them cut flat/horizontally. The 460 and 461 are 76.45 cc's and so I didn't expect them to be faster in that size of wood. They are well known to be ideal with a 24" to 32" bar and lugging through a big log or felling a big tree thanks to their torque. 562 is a good short bar saw blasting through smaller wood 20" and less. 590/600/620 are small bore/long stroke torque saws good for a longer bar than most 60 cc saws. It would be even faster than the 562 in big wood with a long bar...20"-28", although ported 562's are good with a 28" too, they are better suited for 20" and 24" bars. All of this would be in hardwoods like oak and Black Walnut. In the Illinois, Iowa, Southwest Wisconsin area that I'm in, the tri-state area, it's best known for Black Walnut logging in particular. For example, on just one hillside on our 234 acre farm my dad and a logger friend pulled 10 semi truck loads of Black Walnut when I was a kid in the early 1980's that all went to Paris, France for furniture making.
I grew up there in family tree services started at age 15 fulltime..done alot clearing but not logger ..arborist of about 30 years ..got out of production for about 6 but still did trees ..today's world is much different..and far beyond lazy ..there's no mentorship and or respect for elders and no earning there way up..the country was built by hard LABOR PHYSICAL LABOR AND SKILLED LABOR..with trusting in the lord Jesus christ...heartbreaking to see two thirds of America deceived by evolution and these schools and governments that poison and indoctrinate are youth..it's beyond recovery..2 things I miss up there Flatt ground and it's nice a cold ❄..cold weather is always better than hot..when you work outdoors 12hr a day it's not debate ..being Yankees we know you just add a layer or strip a layer of clothes..you cannot cool off ..God bless
Good word John and I cannot believe that amount of loads of Walnut! That is insane! 234 acre!!!!! Dang that sounds like a lot of fun to me!
@@oakiewoodsman that was just on one hillside in the woods that was pasture land for the cows. There was other hillsides and a lot more woods than just that on the farm. That was probably 20-30% of our woods I'm guessing.
that is INSANE!
Seamed like the Stihl has more grunt. Maybe not as fast reving but sounds like it bites harder.
I think a longer bar in bigger wood, the 460 would pull much better. Thanks for watching and sharing!
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Thanks for watching!
I think the Stihl looks and sounds like it has the advantage
thanks for watching!
Morning okie
Morning sir!
Never count out the Echo
The best value out there! Then when performance work is done you have a stout well performing machine! The stock one does pretty darn good I would say
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Thank you DR!
BTW, I don't know why, but I 'm having a hard time replying back to your replies through the e-mail notifications to get back to your replies to my original comments. Lol! I hope that makes sense to you, but computers/cell phones and apps get weird sometimes. 🤷♂️
I am sorry buddy, I am not sure about that way because I only work out of notification and the RUclips Creator suite. Hopefully it doesn't become too much of an issue cause I love what you write man!
@@oakiewoodsman thank you!
So the echo won?
in this particular scenario. Thanks for watching
Echo kicked all their asses!
Used to drool over 462 , own an 880 i used for a living 10 years , older now , the 620 is my everyday worksaw now but every once in a while i break out the 880 with 21 inch bar and 3/8 .062 , those 10 years though i ran a 30 inch bar cutting cedar posts and winter time fire wood with 404 chain , 36 inch bar for milling with grandberg.
Thanks CB for sharing your experience with us sir!