When Bjorn Borg has won five Wimbledons, I was absolutely certain, that it will never be possible for anyone to equal his fantastic (at that time), achievement. Then, comes a player from some far away, not known much about country, and keeps astonishing us all with his achievements on court! What can I say? The same, what one of the greatest players ever, and a legend, which I always admired - John MacEnrow says... - God given talent, supported by , surely, an incredible amount of hard work.....
it is just so much easier to win today, in most of the relevant sports, records have been broken constantly in recent times. Take F1 till 1987, Jackie Stewart was record-holder with 27 wins, then Alain Prost extended his record to 51 wins till 1993, obliterated it, nobody though it could be brooken. Along came Michael Schumacher, 91 wins, destroyed the record again. For sure - unbeatable for 1000 years. 1 generation later Lewis Hamilton, still driving reaches 100+ wins, still driving. Now this will last forever. Wait a minute .. Max Verstappen has won 16 races this year, 53 in total, and is only 26 years old. At this pace not only will he easily break the all-time record but might even reach 200 career wins. And this same argument could be made many other sports, particularly all the winter sports, alpine skiing, cross country skiing, biathlon, speed skating, (Hirscher, Shiffrin, Sven Kramer, Ireen Wüst, Brörndalen, Böe, Björgen, Klaebo, etc etc etc) had their all-time records in several categories pulverized in the past 10 years. So it is trend to be found in many, many sports that record breakers have become increasingly pre-eminent in recent times. Dont ask me why. In a world of growing competitiveness and bigger competition one would rather expect the opposite to happen. Maybe this would be a nice question to be answered in a thesis by sports-science students.
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@markuse3472 1. That's a big IF. Because if there were more clay GS, then all players would prepare differently. It would affect a whole chain of things. 2. I've never heard anything as absurd as that. Novak paying off people to lose against him? And it's got nothing to do with how brilliantly he plays in front of our eyes??? 😂😂😂 You are counting him "white" and Rafa not?😂 They are both "white" and if anything it's Novak who is the odd one out, not being from the west. Which is why Federer has made double the sponsor money than Novak, even in the latter years, when Fed wasn't winning as much. And Rafa also had big money Nike behind him, who had the media spitting at Novak. You've gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole in your bribery theory. Disappointed Rafa fan trying to cope. Novak is just better. Come to terms with it.
@@markuse3472 being goat in tennis means playing on every surface, being good at one surface makes you specialist. Nadal is for sure the goat among specialists but overall Djokovic is the goat of tennis.
Except LOGIC is not Andy's forte. Logic can defeat stats at times. Andy is an obvious bigot, and bigotry is selective, just as is racism. IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
He also said it is actually to early to have this discussion. Everyone who is not denying the fact that sports is about records and wins (like who cares about guys with a nicer running style when it is about who is the fastest sprinter e.g.) knows already he is the GOAT. I really enjoy it every year more and more how ridiculous the explanations are why he is NOT the GOAT. Look at Mcenroe and Chris Evert. True alphas who have no problem to look at the facts and say it, obviously not dependent on a presstitute job creating a "boat" just because it is not welcome to praise him.
@@trisisi69 It was actually really weird that Wilander said that as he's always had high praise for Novak... but yes I completely agree. Edit: BTW Andy made that "too early" comment a couple of years ago while this was more recent.
Top 25 major records 1 Total Titles. 250-2000 109 Connors 2. Big Titles 1000-2000 71 Novak 3 Grand Slam Titles 2000 24 Novak 4 ATP Finals Titles. 1500. 7 Novak 5 Masters Titles. 1000 40 Novak 6. Grand Slams. 1 Novak 7 Golden Masters. 2. Novak 8 Supreme 14, Majors,YEC, Masters. 14 Novak 9 ATP Years #1. 8 Novak 10 ATP Weeks #1 400 Novak 11 ITF World Year End Champion. 7 Novak 12 Highest ATP Ranking 16,950 Novak 13 Highest ELO Ranking. 2629 Novak 14 Prime Peak Years. 11 Novak 15 Head to Head. 2-0 Novak 16 Wikipedia Head To Head Tallies. 30-6 Novak 17 Highest Winning % 83.69% Novak 18 Highest Big Title Winning %. 31.52% Novak 19 80%+ win rate on all surfaces. 1 Novak 20 Most Top 3 wins. 63 Novak 21 Most Top 5 wins. 117. Novak 22 Most Top 10 Wins. 245 Novak 23 Top 15 ELO Rankings Records. 5. Novak 24 Losses Holding Match Point. 3 Novak 25 Ultimate tennis stats GOAT Rating 1102. Novak Totals of Major Records Novak 24. 96% Conners 1. 4% Roger. 0 0% Rafa 0 0%
Consistent weeks at No.1 Fed you conveniently missed that one. Prime peak year you’re being subjective too, consistent Grand Slam quarters? Consistent grand slam semi finals, consistent grand slam finals?? Leaving all those stats too
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Novak is the GOAT. His resilience, focus, energy, flexibility, intelligence, on court and off, and his phenominal skill makes him so. He stands above Borg and Federer.
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Phenominal skill ??? Djokovic has in his later career a very very good well rounded game ; i mean he beats ALL his young rivals in 2023 simply because of his well rounded game - he can play any part of the court UNDERPRESSURE - all the rest cannot ( except maybe Alceraz) - this and a weak field generally the last 4 years sees him out gun & outlast the other two But for all round flare and skills on court - half a dozen or more sit above him no doubt in my mind
Mr. Zvonko. You are a typical example of a character who cannot get out of his complex skin (typical complex croissant). All of you who hate Novak can write and comment about him and look for all kinds of excuses why Novak is (is or is) NOT GOAT, but ladies and gentlemen, as with everything else in life, in Novak's case, the numbers count... and it's that NOBODY has achieved all these successes so far (in tennis) and like it or not the numbers just confirm that NOVAK is the GOAT in TENNIS. And you who hate him and cannot accept that fact? ... so nothing you can continue with your cries. 😪🤤🤣 ...😜 PS. Bell .... so offer yourself to carry the bags LoL@@RealisticAndTrue 🤫 .... Novace ... IDEMOOOOOO 😇
Novak breaks record after record!!! Just won Atp Masters 7th or 8th time, plus just won Atp Final Masters for 7th time and he finished year like Number 1 for the record 8th time!!! The man is absolutely Greatest ever!!! He dominated tennis 🎾 over a decade!!! At age of 36 and a half beating guys 16 or more younger than him!!! Just insane!!! He was beating everyone on his path, Federer, Nadal, Murray, Wawrinka,David Ferrer, i mean, literally everyone!!! How many different players and generations!!! Nobody can match him!!! GOAT 🐐🇷🇸🎾🏟️❤️💪
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Lets hope the h2h in slams between stand and stan djoko would be equal or in djokovic's favour, where every ball had the hawkeye system in the matches in slams, hence no lines-men at all.
IF (logic in this case) CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@markuse3472 if if if if,... if grandma had balls she wouls be grandpa. There is one gs on clay, one on grass, two on hc and final masters in indoors, he sucks on 3/4 surfaces, lets turn every gs to clay so nadal can win something againsy Djokovic
as far as tennis is concerned as a sport, Novak is the the GOAT and no longer needs any argument. For those who still thought Roger or Nada were goat, they are just in denial.
i dare nadal n fed to get old n hurt how could they haha this is like lebron he playing long time like novak. bron still not better then jordan. maybe yall say andy murray is the best ever soon haha he still playing
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@aleks8283 that he sucks compared to djokovic who is at the top since 2007 and best since 2011? While federer was the best only when djokovic isnt around like in 2017 when age wasnt important,right?
If somehow artistry as someone said would have been considered a relevant issue in tennis by the rules, I am sure, Novak would have improved itself in that direction. And he will be the greatest again. :)
He did it all!!! No worries!!! 8th time year number 1,400+ weeks number 1, 24GS+ ,41Atp Masters, Double Masters, only man to win all 4GS at least 3times!!!! list goes on….
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
When the video mentioned that Gasquet's salty comment might have been due to losing 14 out of 15 matches to Novak, I thought of the Vitas Gerulaitis quote: "nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row".@@hafidzonomar6034
sport is not about heart. sport is about results and record holding Only in tennis is diferente.because of Federer whoi is supported by big companies. When somebody is best ,he is the best
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
People try to find reasons why he cannot be considered GOAT rather than acknowledging the truth. He is what he is a legend of legends.... Next generation is going to pray him study...him... His aura his training secreats wil will be studied for years to come.. May God bless him with long life and 10 more GS😊
May god bless him with 10 more GS - you dont no who god is, for real...wow, he is the one who hits a yellow ball over the net better than any other player in history of the sport..thats all. And you praise him likes he is god. What a shame.. repent my friend and turn to christ before its too late..
Novak Djokovic is the greatest of all time ❤❤❤his greatness is Amazing ❤❤no doubt about it, Novak the greatest and the strongest tennis player ever in the History of tennis ❤❤
The question “what do you think” by itself implies personal preferences with endless debates. If there’s not a committee that can establish the criteria for “greatness” then there’s no goat. But if there is, they can’t certainly use criteria like “beauty”, “sportsmanship” because, remember, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”, so they’ll have to use numbers, and, in that case, Djokovic clearly wins the tittle.
Tennis, like any other sport, is competitive. Tennis players fight for victories on the court, for titles in tournaments, for cups and medals. The matter is simple. Whoever collects the most titles, in the strongest competitions, is the best. End of story. If it's about beauty, grace, likeability... Determine the criteria, then organize a competition in those disciplines, maybe a competition for the best favorite of the audience or journalist or ... all that is fine, but when it comes to the competition, undoubtedly and without any discussions Novak Djokovic is the best tennis player of all time. Maybe someday someone will surpass him, but until that happens, Novak is the best tennis player who ever picked up a racket. Anyone who tries to disprove it disqualifies himself. These are either people who hate Novak or love someone else. They wanted to reduce Novak, so that they, or their pets, would "grow". Bro, it doesn't work that way. You don't become great by convincing someone of your greatness, either you are great or you are not.
Is stupid even to compare Novak Djokovic with anyone!!! The guy is The Greatest tennis player who ever step on tennis 🎾 courts!!! Simply The Goat 🐐 They can just keep hating and crying 😭 together 😂Like salty and bitter Nadal😂
Don't know why Nadal and Federer are more popular, have more fans, and more supports from premium brands. Perhaps Djokovic temperament on court, such as throwing racquets (got disqualified at the US Open), mocking young players like Shelton after beating him, has something to do with it?
It turns out we have been lied about this man all along. He's been portrayed as a villain just to create stories and sell papers, for silly people to "buy". It is quite obvious now that he is actually the one with the biggest heart out of all of them.
I know the comment section favors Djoker by a mile, which is fine. If someone wants to say that Djoker is the greatest, then I can understand that. He had the most successful career. For me, however, Fed will always be my favorite, and that isn't me trying to hate on Djoker. I just remember being a kid watching Fed in his prime, and he was pure magic. Winning 15 slams in 6 years and having the most consecutive weeks as number 1 is something that is overlooked a lot. I think that, even to this day, Federer may have been the best at his best. There's obviously no way to prove that, and that still may not be enough to make Federer the GOAT if that's true. I think it's a shame that he fell off so quickly though; he was a candle that burnt too bright and too fast.
If, by any chance, the beauty of the game was evaluated in tennis, in addition to winning trophies and tournaments, as in figure skating, for example, Novak would without a doubt be the best in that segment as well, GOAT!!!
Koji idiotizam😂ispade da je tenis jedini sport u kojem rezultati nisu mjerilo uspjeha. Biti najbolji u bilo kojoj vrsti sporta je zavisno od rezultata,koje si rezultate postigao u toku svoje karijere. Cista matematika😂
Еееее, али у тенису је другачије! И то не од увек, него од недавно. Нисам приметио сад на недавно одржаном турниру у Торину да је неки од играча добио меч на бази естетике и лепоте покрета . Могуће да сам пропустио неки меч.
No doubt Djokovic now has the record as the GOAT. However, I think it was Roger Federer who made the greatest impact. It was a revelation when he first came on the scene. No one had ever played at that level before. It set a standard for excellence that drove Djokovic and Nadal to their heights.
I lover Roger Federer and he is amazing, but Novak is just a little more amazing and absolutely the GOAT, Nadal is 3rd, what he has done at the French open will be unmatched.
@@aleks8283 federer is no2 because he is overall better tennis player on different surfaces while nadal is clay specialist. Out of 22 nadal won 14 RG, that is a record that will nobody be able to touch but outside of clay he never won any gs twice in the row while federer dominated us,ao,wim and lets not forget final master
@miloraddjurdjic1695 yea, I know about that. It's definitely tighter between those two, but I'm not understanding the whole splitting by surface thing. A title is a title, everybody has the same chance to play on them and they count towards the points equally.
@@aleks8283 that is because in tennis you have 4 different surfaces, if dominate only one of them you are specialist. If every tournament was on the same surface then I would agree with you, nothing is different
Novak Djokovic is, above all, human greatness, he has united virtues that few can boast of. He is a realistic person, who loves people and the world, he does not hate even those who persistently want to harm him and steal what belongs to him. And that is that he is the best tennis player in history. He is actually one of the best athletes in general. His talent may not have been so pronounced and dominant when he played in the younger categories, but that makes him even more the best of all time. You are born with talent and with hard work and mental qualities you become the best. He did exactly that, he came to the limelight when Rafa and Fed were at their peak and managed to reach and overcome them both. It is also necessary to take into account the circumstances and the position they had at the beginning of their journey to conquer the world of tennis. To compare the conditions for playing tennis in Spain and Switzerland with the conditions in Serbia where tennis hardly existed as a serious sport. It's funny to say the least. First of all, Novak had to overcome the circumstances that surrounded him and in which he grew up. He then had to defeat his opponents on the field. In the end he had to do the hardest thing, beat himself to become better than the best. Versatility and adaptability are also virtues especially in sports. He had to change his game to beat Rafa and Federer Novak succeeded in everything he set out to do. He was able to improve his clay skills to beat Rafa. God knows how hard it was to achieve. He had to do the same on grass to beat Federer. He succeeded in both missions and that alone makes him the greatest. Getting better than the best on their field when they're in the prime of their careers is something we don't often witness. When we add to that all the other numbers and records in Novak's hands, it is easy to state that Novak is the best player in the history of tennis. As a comparison, Tennis is a significantly more complex sport than, for example, table tennis (the tables on which the game is played are standardized all over the world), unlike tennis, where there are many different surfaces because the same surfaces are of different hardness and speed. The achievement of playing equally well on all surfaces is unheard of in the history of this game. Novak is also unique in that. Not recognizing Novak as the best of all time and not loving him and respect as a person who has done a lot of good for sports, the young players he helps and people he doesn't know (he pays for medical treatment and operations, finances the construction of sports fields, kindergartens, school equipment, helps the poor ...) is malice, hatred and mental disorder. You sick people learn to live with it. While Novak writes history, you rot in your wickedness.
Joko has won more grand slams and masters titles than any other tennis player, but as a tennis fan I don’t enjoy seeing him play and breaking rackets and arguing with umpires, etc. Overall, he lacks the class of top players of his time.
He's the Lebron James of tennis. His quest for excellence in every aspect of his game, even into his late thirties, has served him very well. His consistency and longevity is unparalleled. I think it's fair to say though that he has capitalised on some weak opposition.
We knew since he was back on the track after major elbow injury on Wimby 2018. I was 100% convinsed that he will catch Rafa and Fed and overcome for sure.
not even close, the goat debate was over 2 years ago when novak was unfairly disqualified from US open due to a hollywood performance by Karen the line judge, and then deported from Aus because he didn't want to take some poison scam, and then also not allowed to play at US Open, while also not being given any points for winning Wimbledon. In spite of all that he still kept winning while the stadiums were booing him and against him. What a hero. The look on Bill Gates face when he came back to win the last AO was priceless
Dude, Johnny Mac has SEVENTY SEVEN singles titles. How could you make such a horrible mistake? I mean, you were only off by FIFTY TWO!! 52!! And he won 77 doubles titles.
He is one of the best player's around today.... and still going strong , he never gives up or sulks You want someone else to win set off Novak....just so you can watch him come back even stronger....as he's always going to, (just greatest of all time)
He is “one of the best”?? Are you on drugs? He has won 7 slams just in the last three years. And he couldn’t play in 2 of them. And lost in finals of 2 others.
A lot of people hold some sort of attitude based on I feel instead of I think. On other words you might as well judge someone on their smile instead of what they've achieved. Also, I wonder if the other greats were born as Novak was, out of western(read prejudice) aggression. As Nole began his career he lived under the ever present threat of an early death, killed along with other Serbians by American bombs. He achieved his greatness despite such a threat, he has achieved his wonderful goals by being steady in his self belief. He could rely on lesser players approbation, he just got on with it , no matter whether he was liked or not. He's not only the best he genuinely deserving of the goat title,unless or until someone can beat his record sometime in the future. I wish that super human luck, they're going to need more than just that. Lastly, Laver achieved his double grand slam pinnacle despite prejudice against his need to become a professional in the face of amateurism. He is respected and lauded on that basis while Novak has togain approval over prejudice despite his dominant record. Once Jimmy Connors was considered unbeatable,until they discovered ways to beat him, well he survived 109 titles, and that should be his record as a player, not his manner or smile. I think Nole will for ever now be the measuring stick in this game of tennis. Other sports measure greatness by records too, basketball anyone, soccer another and so on. Novak deserves GOAT in Tennis and long may his record stand.
Novak is GOAT, and the people who don't like him is only because he is Serbian. If he was anybody else it would be ok with western media. Anyway Novak is on the top of all games and all others are BELOW NOVAK, period.
I also think Djokovic is the goat. That being said, if I had been given one ticket in my lifetime to watch anyone, I would have choose Federer anyday. His aura is beyond numbers and stats.
Novak is the GOAT and I've moved past this debate once he hit his 23rd Slam. I'm now considering him for the greatest athlete of all time. What's he's been doing for nearly 2 decades, and is still doing at 36 doesn't have many parallels in sport. Very soon, he will stand alone in every record, every statistic, every sporting achievement. He is living legend, a role model and a terrific human being.
We just had a pleasure of watching a great ATP Finals 2023 in Torino, and....I don't remember seeing anyone being granted a victory based on his elegance on the court or aesthetics. Do you? 🤔
Though no one can deny Djokovic is the GOAT in terms of statistics, focus and resilience, I find McEnroe's, Edberg's, Sampras', and Federer's game much more attractive. No matter how many grand slams he wins, Djokovic will never have the grace, elegance, sportsmanship and role model attitude that Federer showed throughout his career. But this does not change anything to the fact that Djokovic is the GOAT in terms of number of victories.
Da kojim slučajem nije Srbin odavno bi ga kovali u zvezde kao najboljeg,ovako okreću glavu i prave se ludi,ali po rezultatima stvarno je do sada najbolji! :)
Haters will always be haters. Can't argue with the stats! Djoko is the greatest of all time. I don't think there will be another for decades to come. Just like Jordan, there will never be another Jordan in basketball!!
Novak won only 1 slam in rogers era, novak got his achivents when federer old out of prime and from 2015-2023 novak won his 17 slams against new gen weak era players that look like models than a tennis player
@@truthtruth9056how many slams did Fed win from 2011 to his retirement? The AO he won was because Nole wasn't there, as well as Rafa's USO and AO. Wherever Nole met Roger he clapped him, and wherever he met Rafa outside of Clay, he clapped him. Rafa has 0 wins against Nole outside of clay since 2012, and ever since Djokovic and Nadal were able to play on their high level, Roger's "prime" ended, well, no, it didn't end, it's just that the weak era ended.
@MrMartin48705 kid 30+ old out of prime grandpa federer won 4 grand slam in djokovic so called strong era while djokovic won only 1 slam in federer so called weak era, thats just the proof that federer was the unidsputed tennis goat period. Djokovic was in those tournament when federer won 2017 2018 ao and 2017 wimbledon, even in 2012 32 age old out of prime federer destroyed prime peak defending wimbledon champion djokovic in semi finals then old out of prime federer also destroyed prime peak murray in the finals to win the title
@@MrMartin48705 lol federer clapped your novak from 2006-2010 check h2h facts 13-6 h2h roger destroyed your novak easily, your novak only started winning more in 2011 when federer was 30+ old out of prime, facts not opinion
At the end ..For the moment the Goat ..ladies and gentlemen is...Mr Novak DJOKOViC...until à Bionic tennis player who will serve at 300k/h,return plays from the baseline on first and second balls, volley at m net + smashes without any faults and get never tired. This super athlète will born in 2040 break aml record very quickly and be the first model for all next terminators. At their period there will be competitions reserved for these models because humans couldn´t struggle with them anymore..😅
No one is a goat all good players some better then others on how they behave in the game it’s sports it’s great for the winners each time be happy for what you have and be proud x
Well, they can have an opinion but all arguments are on Novak’s side!! Go on champion! You are the best in history of tennis!! You make another levels❤❤❤❤❤❤
Regardless of how many slams he wins to me the lack of professionalism by misrepect towards the crowd and others and nasty attitude never could be the GOAT. That title could go either to Federer or Nadal or both. It is just my opinion. I respect other people opinions. But I know I'm not the only one feeling this way.the elegance, professionalism and respectful way of Federer and Nadal is unique. We will miss then like no other.watching a grand slams final whit them has no comparison. I don't care if the joker wins 100 slams
People can argue or fans between themselves, but that wont help nobody. The facts are clear. I liked Federer statement, very respectful towards Novak, he knows for quite some time now, that clearly is gonna be Novak. I understand Nadal, he was in the race but only in slams, teoreticaly he is still is, but all other results doesnt come close to Novak, Its obvious that Roger is second because of his grace and beauty. Im joking of course, its because he is more dominant in results than Rafa all around, no doubt. Novak Djokovic firmly holding first position of greatest player of all time. Can we just hold for a second and think, the guy hasnt won all 4 slams in one year,
Poor Novak, I'm not a Novak fan, like at all, but now they are trying to figure out different terms so as not to give him the GOAT title. I mean, please, at this point the conversation is moot. My favorite player, ever, is Wawrinka. Period. But I think even Wawrinka would agree that the GOAT is none other than Novak. Did I say I'm far from being a Novak fan, yes I did. Bordering on Novak hater ha ha. But there comes a time, when the results, the stamina, the will power.. speak. NOVAK is the GOAT, the BOAT, whatever term they want to use or make up to not fully credit or recognize him. There i said it. Ha ha 😂😂😂
Did this dude really just pronounce Wilander with a W? The GOAT debate is what it is. Wilander has a point - it should be more then numbers, but it never is because too many people get caught up in the numbers and now the overall impact on the game. Novak's stans will twist themselves into pretzels to call Roger's era a "weak era" but refuse to acknowledge the same is true of Novak's last 5 or 6 years. When all is said and done - more people will focus on the numbers, but the reality is - Roger's got records Novak will never have. Novak has records Roger will never have. And Rafa has clay numbers that probably no one will every top. To declare one of the 3 the GOAT you'd have to include the intangibles - and that's why Novak is working so hard to get that stupid players union to be something. Otherwise he has had next to no impact on the game besides numbers. Roger won with grace, elegance and class, put butts in seats and is a global ambassador for the game and is loved everywhere he goes. Rafa likewise is a fan favorite and has his tennis academies and is teaching kids the game. What's Novak done for the game? Nothing. It was always about HIM. Enter: Players union and "tennis needs to change." Change yes - but only to HIS vision of what it should be. In the end he might be a guy who was better off letting his racket do the talking.
Whay even talk about.We all know he is G.O.A.T. but he is Serbian . If he is English or Swiss American. He would be everyday topic. Haw great he is. Instead they just make bad comments on everything Novak say or do. You go Novak don't stop.. History will tell
Federer is the greatest tennis talent played the game and most beautiful to watch from footwork to all shots. He is a real artist - he is the GOD of tennis!!! Numbers are not everything - Novak is just a ball mashine - who wants to watch a ball machine - borring to death?
Novak is the GOAT, undeniable at this point and I suspect he'll still win at least 2-3 more grand slams minimum before he retires. People who can't accept this are generally just basing this on their feelings rather than facts (which I think even Andy Roddick alluded to after the 2023 US Open) and then they pull out some arbitrary statistic that favours either Federer or Rafa (even though though they they fail to see that Novak then beats them both in nearly every other key performance statistic that matters). Facts are he is the GOAT even if your feelings say otherwise.
Who are we to accept or deny someone’s achievements
Their achievements speak
When Bjorn Borg has won five Wimbledons, I was absolutely certain, that it will never be possible for anyone to equal his fantastic (at that time), achievement.
Then, comes a player from some far away, not known much about country, and keeps astonishing us all with his achievements on court!
What can I say? The same, what one of the greatest players ever, and a legend, which I always admired - John MacEnrow says... - God given talent, supported by , surely, an incredible amount of hard work.....
it is just so much easier to win today, in most of the relevant sports, records have been broken constantly in recent times. Take F1 till 1987, Jackie Stewart was record-holder with 27 wins, then Alain Prost extended his record to 51 wins till 1993, obliterated it, nobody though it could be brooken. Along came Michael Schumacher, 91 wins, destroyed the record again. For sure - unbeatable for 1000 years. 1 generation later Lewis Hamilton, still driving reaches 100+ wins, still driving. Now this will last forever. Wait a minute .. Max Verstappen has won 16 races this year, 53 in total, and is only 26 years old. At this pace not only will he easily break the all-time record but might even reach 200 career wins. And this same argument could be made many other sports, particularly all the winter sports, alpine skiing, cross country skiing, biathlon, speed skating, (Hirscher, Shiffrin, Sven Kramer, Ireen Wüst, Brörndalen, Böe, Björgen, Klaebo, etc etc etc) had their all-time records in several categories pulverized in the past 10 years.
So it is trend to be found in many, many sports that record breakers have become increasingly pre-eminent in recent times. Dont ask me why. In a world of growing competitiveness and bigger competition one would rather expect the opposite to happen. Maybe this would be a nice question to be answered in a thesis by sports-science students.
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@markuse3472 1. That's a big IF. Because if there were more clay GS, then all players would prepare differently. It would affect a whole chain of things.
2. I've never heard anything as absurd as that. Novak paying off people to lose against him? And it's got nothing to do with how brilliantly he plays in front of our eyes???
😂😂😂
You are counting him "white" and Rafa not?😂
They are both "white" and if anything it's Novak who is the odd one out, not being from the west.
Which is why Federer has made double the sponsor money than Novak, even in the latter years, when Fed wasn't winning as much.
And Rafa also had big money Nike behind him, who had the media spitting at Novak.
You've gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole in your bribery theory. Disappointed Rafa fan trying to cope.
Novak is just better. Come to terms with it.
@@markuse3472 being goat in tennis means playing on every surface, being good at one surface makes you specialist. Nadal is for sure the goat among specialists but overall Djokovic is the goat of tennis.
Andy Roddick said it best, if you dont consider him the goat, you are not going by facts you are going by feelings.
Andy is 100% correct... unfortunately reminds me of the leftist mindset..🤡 facts don't matter even men can give birth 🤣
Except LOGIC is not Andy's forte. Logic can defeat stats at times. Andy is an obvious bigot, and bigotry is selective, just as is racism.
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
that quote is a reality and can be used in many other sports as well
He also said it is actually to early to have this discussion. Everyone who is not denying the fact that sports is about records and wins (like who cares about guys with a nicer running style when it is about who is the fastest sprinter e.g.) knows already he is the GOAT. I really enjoy it every year more and more how ridiculous the explanations are why he is NOT the GOAT. Look at Mcenroe and Chris Evert. True alphas who have no problem to look at the facts and say it, obviously not dependent on a presstitute job creating a "boat" just because it is not welcome to praise him.
@@trisisi69 It was actually really weird that Wilander said that as he's always had high praise for Novak... but yes I completely agree.
Edit: BTW Andy made that "too early" comment a couple of years ago while this was more recent.
Novak Djokovic is by far the GOAT!
Top 25 major records
1 Total Titles. 250-2000 109 Connors
2. Big Titles 1000-2000 71 Novak
3 Grand Slam Titles 2000 24 Novak
4 ATP Finals Titles. 1500. 7 Novak
5 Masters Titles. 1000 40 Novak
6. Grand Slams. 1 Novak
7 Golden Masters. 2. Novak
8 Supreme 14, Majors,YEC, Masters. 14 Novak
9 ATP Years #1. 8 Novak
10 ATP Weeks #1 400 Novak
11 ITF World Year End Champion. 7 Novak
12 Highest ATP Ranking 16,950 Novak
13 Highest ELO Ranking. 2629 Novak
14 Prime Peak Years. 11 Novak
15 Head to Head. 2-0 Novak
16 Wikipedia Head To Head Tallies. 30-6 Novak
17 Highest Winning % 83.69% Novak
18 Highest Big Title Winning %. 31.52% Novak
19 80%+ win rate on all surfaces. 1 Novak
20 Most Top 3 wins. 63 Novak
21 Most Top 5 wins. 117. Novak
22 Most Top 10 Wins. 245 Novak
23 Top 15 ELO Rankings Records. 5. Novak
24 Losses Holding Match Point. 3 Novak
25 Ultimate tennis stats GOAT Rating 1102. Novak
Totals of Major Records
Novak 24. 96%
Conners 1. 4%
Roger. 0 0%
Rafa 0 0%
Consistent weeks at No.1 Fed you conveniently missed that one. Prime peak year you’re being subjective too, consistent Grand Slam quarters? Consistent grand slam semi finals, consistent grand slam finals?? Leaving all those stats too
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@jonathanstirling7167I see what you're trying to say, but I don't know...Federer had a nicer backhand, and he invented this SABR thing.
@@markuse3472oh geez, you copy pasting your drivel here as well?
The bitter ramblings of a sour Rafa fan.
Their is no doubt, novak djokovic is the greatest player of all time, nobody is near what novak djokovic does for tennis.
Federer has more singles titles than Djokovic, Rafa has 22 slams Federer has 20, Novak has 24 that's not close?
@@Kidgloves1984 close,but noz enough
Federer is on pension,Nadal is invaid,and Novak whit 36 year old,is nomber one,no dubt.
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@@Kidgloves1984 what titles atp 250? 😅
@@Kidgloves1984number of big titles, weeks as no1, positive h2h against both of them and so on, and so on
Novak is the GOAT. His resilience, focus, energy, flexibility, intelligence, on court and off, and his phenominal skill makes him so. He stands above Borg and Federer.
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Phenominal skill ??? Djokovic has in his later career a very very good well rounded game ; i mean he beats ALL his young rivals in 2023 simply because of his well rounded game - he can play any part of the court UNDERPRESSURE - all the rest cannot ( except maybe Alceraz) - this and a weak field generally the last 4 years sees him out gun & outlast the other two
But for all round flare and skills on court - half a dozen or more sit above him no doubt in my mind
He stands as the Greatest antivaxer of all time, when it comes to tennis he cant even carry bags of the two guys you mention.
@@RealisticAndTrue😂😂😂
Mr. Zvonko. You are a typical example of a character who cannot get out of his complex skin (typical complex croissant). All of you who hate Novak can write and comment about him and look for all kinds of excuses why Novak is (is or is) NOT GOAT, but ladies and gentlemen, as with everything else in life, in Novak's case, the numbers count... and it's that NOBODY has achieved all these successes so far (in tennis) and like it or not the numbers just confirm that NOVAK is the GOAT in TENNIS.
And you who hate him and cannot accept that fact? ... so nothing you can continue with your cries. 😪🤤🤣 ...😜
PS. Bell .... so offer yourself to carry the bags LoL@@RealisticAndTrue 🤫 ....
Novace ... IDEMOOOOOO 😇
Novak breaks record after record!!! Just won Atp Masters 7th or 8th time, plus just won Atp Final Masters for 7th time and he finished year like Number 1 for the record 8th time!!! The man is absolutely Greatest ever!!! He dominated tennis 🎾 over a decade!!! At age of 36 and a half beating guys 16 or more younger than him!!! Just insane!!! He was beating everyone on his path, Federer, Nadal, Murray, Wawrinka,David Ferrer, i mean, literally everyone!!! How many different players and generations!!! Nobody can match him!!! GOAT 🐐🇷🇸🎾🏟️❤️💪
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@markuse3472the same response in a other comment section AGAIN?
Stop spamming your pathetic copy paste BS slander everywhere, and get a life.
@@markuse3472 nadal is white. Nadal was rich before tennis, what are you talking about?
curb your racism bruh@@markuse3472
@@markuse3472 Visit the doctor.
10:04 What do I think? now that you asked: Djokovic is the GOAT!
Thank you for your question!
Not only goat. An amazing himan being and the best athlete in the history of the sport.
NOVAK IS THE ALL TIME G.O.A.T
Though, very much trouble vs stan wawrinka in slam-matches for djokovic.
Lets hope the h2h in slams between stand and stan djoko would be equal or in djokovic's favour, where every ball had the hawkeye system in the matches in slams, hence no lines-men at all.
He's the greatest ever by far and will stay the greatest forever!
IF (logic in this case) CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@markuse3472 if if if if,... if grandma had balls she wouls be grandpa. There is one gs on clay, one on grass, two on hc and final masters in indoors, he sucks on 3/4 surfaces, lets turn every gs to clay so nadal can win something againsy Djokovic
If Novak isn't GOAT then there is no GOAT. If there was some GOATs Novak will be GOAT of goats.😅
as far as tennis is concerned as a sport, Novak is the the GOAT and no longer needs any argument. For those who still thought Roger or Nada were goat, they are just in denial.
i dare nadal n fed to get old n hurt how could they haha this is like lebron he playing long time like novak. bron still not better then jordan. maybe yall say andy murray is the best ever soon haha he still playing
@@joeymiddleton5821you know that federer played for longer time?
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@miloraddjurdjic1695though he didn't dominate, i.e. win as much, especially after 2010. What does that say?
@@aleks8283 that he sucks compared to djokovic who is at the top since 2007 and best since 2011? While federer was the best only when djokovic isnt around like in 2017 when age wasnt important,right?
Novak is the BEST TENNIS PLAYER EVER, HI IS GOAT!!!
Nole we love you and you’re definitely the GOAT.
Nobody will ever come even close to
him!!! Its most likely impossible
I don't know if he is the GOAT, but he is the strongest among the strongest, his steel will is unmatched 💪💪💪
He is the greatest of all times
Videos like this ones are pushing to keep GOAT debate alive. 🙂
It's over, mate! Live with it.
Off course Novak Is the greatest of all time!
We love him, from allover the world, a lot more than any other, records or not.
Legend of sport, one and only Novak the King 🤴🏆
Novak is the only Goat the other player are just jealous of him 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️🇬🇧🙏
True!! Jelousy of Roger and Nadal is very easy to see!
If somehow artistry as someone said would have been considered a relevant issue in tennis by the rules, I am sure, Novak would have improved itself in that direction. And he will be the greatest again. :)
I can play tennis acrobatically. I should be GOAT by Gasquet's standard lol
He did it all!!! No worries!!! 8th time year number 1,400+ weeks number 1, 24GS+ ,41Atp Masters, Double Masters, only man to win all 4GS at least 3times!!!! list goes on….
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
When the video mentioned that Gasquet's salty comment might have been due to losing 14 out of 15 matches to Novak, I thought of the Vitas Gerulaitis quote: "nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row".@@hafidzonomar6034
sport is not about heart. sport is about results and record holding Only in tennis is diferente.because of Federer whoi is supported by big companies. When somebody is best ,he is the best
I totally agree with you, sport is not about the heart because everyone has their favorite, it's about results and record holding, period. 😂😅😂😂
Yes men this The truth . Thanks for your words . I agree with you
Only nostalgia merchants think Federer is better than djokovic
IF CAN be applied when opposing biases and prejudices pushed by the ATP and ITF (and WTA in women's). Had Clay been played on as much as hard court (I can't say grass because it is only used in the UK and a few others), Rafael Nadal would be THE GOAT. Rafael would have won quite a few more majors, masters, 500's and Olympic gold(s). Likely a few Finals but not too many. Winning more non-majors would have given Rafael the motivation and focus to win more on other surfaces. 2. Until the ITF and ATP and Others look deep (bank accounts, transactions, cell and computer use including public ones) into the possible Bribery of the top two hundred (200) since at least 2022 to lose to Novaq, the Bribery is and has happened. White people will dismiss this, and also those non-White who want to be White. It is brainless to believe tennis is the only major sport where cheating is not allowed. White filthy rich people have likely Paid Off some or many in the top 200 to lose to Novaq just so he, the obvious White man (Rafael is not "White" and I will EASILY prove it to those who's brains are minute) goes easily above Rafael and Roger and all the women. What a dunce world. Rafael is be reasonable and virtues default THE GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Yeah, the Rolex boy, now they changed him with Alcaraz.
People try to find reasons why he cannot be considered GOAT rather than acknowledging the truth. He is what he is a legend of legends.... Next generation is going to pray him study...him... His aura his training secreats wil will be studied for years to come.. May God bless him with long life and 10 more GS😊
May god bless him with 10 more GS - you dont no who god is, for real...wow, he is the one who hits a yellow ball over the net better than any other player in history of the sport..thats all. And you praise him likes he is god. What a shame.. repent my friend and turn to christ before its too late..
Novak is GOAT, Novak si on second place, Novak is on 3 place.... Then everyone else
He may be the greatest,but his corner to corner play just wears out the other player no beauty to that. A win is a win.
I don't see it like that but respect your opinion
Ma mogu da misle sta god hoce .On je divan sportista i divan covek.Za njih ostale ne bismo rekli.
Novak Djokovic is the greatest of all time ❤❤❤his greatness is Amazing ❤❤no doubt about it, Novak the greatest and the strongest tennis player ever in the History of tennis ❤❤
The question “what do you think” by itself implies personal preferences with endless debates. If there’s not a committee that can establish the criteria for “greatness” then there’s no goat. But if there is, they can’t certainly use criteria like “beauty”, “sportsmanship” because, remember, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”, so they’ll have to use numbers, and, in that case, Djokovic clearly wins the tittle.
Tennis, like any other sport, is competitive. Tennis players fight for victories on the court, for titles in tournaments, for cups and medals. The matter is simple. Whoever collects the most titles, in the strongest competitions, is the best. End of story. If it's about beauty, grace, likeability... Determine the criteria, then organize a competition in those disciplines, maybe a competition for the best favorite of the audience or journalist or ... all that is fine, but when it comes to the competition, undoubtedly and without any discussions Novak Djokovic is the best tennis player of all time. Maybe someday someone will surpass him, but until that happens, Novak is the best tennis player who ever picked up a racket. Anyone who tries to disprove it disqualifies himself. These are either people who hate Novak or love someone else. They wanted to reduce Novak, so that they, or their pets, would "grow". Bro, it doesn't work that way. You don't become great by convincing someone of your greatness, either you are great or you are not.
Nole is GOAT in a BOAT!
GOAT afcours!!!!!!!!!
Is stupid even to compare Novak Djokovic with anyone!!! The guy is The Greatest tennis player who ever step on tennis 🎾 courts!!! Simply The Goat 🐐 They can just keep hating and crying 😭 together 😂Like salty and bitter Nadal😂
Don't know why Nadal and Federer are more popular, have more fans, and more supports from premium brands. Perhaps Djokovic temperament on court, such as throwing racquets (got disqualified at the US Open), mocking young players like Shelton after beating him, has something to do with it?
Agreed except for the part abt Shelton. He needs to be mocked.
It turns out we have been lied about this man all along. He's been portrayed as a villain just to create stories and sell papers, for silly people to "buy". It is quite obvious now that he is actually the one with the biggest heart out of all of them.
The man with the most GS titles was always, and I DO MEAN ALWAYS considered to be the GOAT.So, the only question is, why change of rules NOW ?!
Doblle standards and hipocrasy! And some excuses a la "Federer has more" beautiful" playing style, that's why he is the GOAT... 😂 WTF
Yea, who even takes Mat Willander seriously? He talks from both sides of the mouth
I know the comment section favors Djoker by a mile, which is fine. If someone wants to say that Djoker is the greatest, then I can understand that. He had the most successful career. For me, however, Fed will always be my favorite, and that isn't me trying to hate on Djoker. I just remember being a kid watching Fed in his prime, and he was pure magic. Winning 15 slams in 6 years and having the most consecutive weeks as number 1 is something that is overlooked a lot. I think that, even to this day, Federer may have been the best at his best. There's obviously no way to prove that, and that still may not be enough to make Federer the GOAT if that's true. I think it's a shame that he fell off so quickly though; he was a candle that burnt too bright and too fast.
There's BOAT, then GOAT and then DJOKOVIC!
Deal with it haters!
🎉 Nole, Nole, Nole!🎉❤
Tennis Hall the Fame will be called Novak Djokovic Hall of the Fame.
Mamba mentality of tennis. Simple as that.
If, by any chance, the beauty of the game was evaluated in tennis, in addition to winning trophies and tournaments, as in figure skating, for example, Novak would without a doubt be the best in that segment as well, GOAT!!!
Koji idiotizam😂ispade da je tenis jedini sport u kojem rezultati nisu mjerilo uspjeha.
Biti najbolji u bilo kojoj vrsti sporta je zavisno od rezultata,koje si rezultate postigao u toku svoje karijere. Cista matematika😂
Еееее, али у тенису је другачије!
И то не од увек, него од недавно.
Нисам приметио сад на недавно одржаном турниру у Торину да је неки од играча добио меч на бази естетике и лепоте покрета . Могуће да сам пропустио неки меч.
Novak is the GOAT
Novak is Goat! no doubt!
No doubt Djokovic now has the record as the GOAT. However, I think it was Roger Federer who made the greatest impact. It was a revelation when he first came on the scene. No one had ever played at that level before. It set a standard for excellence that drove Djokovic and Nadal to their heights.
Hes the goat
I lover Roger Federer and he is amazing, but Novak is just a little more amazing and absolutely the GOAT, Nadal is 3rd, what he has done at the French open will be unmatched.
Arguably Rafa is 2nd
@@aleks8283 federer is no2 because he is overall better tennis player on different surfaces while nadal is clay specialist. Out of 22 nadal won 14 RG, that is a record that will nobody be able to touch but outside of clay he never won any gs twice in the row while federer dominated us,ao,wim and lets not forget final master
@miloraddjurdjic1695 yea, I know about that. It's definitely tighter between those two, but I'm not understanding the whole splitting by surface thing.
A title is a title, everybody has the same chance to play on them and they count towards the points equally.
@@aleks8283 that is because in tennis you have 4 different surfaces, if dominate only one of them you are specialist. If every tournament was on the same surface then I would agree with you, nothing is different
@@aleks8283Rafa has no atp finals title
Novak is bigger then the game of tennis.
Novak Djokovic is, above all, human greatness, he has united virtues that few can boast of. He is a realistic person, who loves people and the world, he does not hate even those who persistently want to harm him and steal what belongs to him. And that is that he is the best tennis player in history. He is actually one of the best athletes in general. His talent may not have been so pronounced and dominant when he played in the younger categories, but that makes him even more the best of all time. You are born with talent and with hard work and mental qualities you become the best. He did exactly that, he came to the limelight when Rafa and Fed were at their peak and managed to reach and overcome them both. It is also necessary to take into account the circumstances and the position they had at the beginning of their journey to conquer the world of tennis. To compare the conditions for playing tennis in Spain and Switzerland with the conditions in Serbia where tennis hardly existed as a serious sport. It's funny to say the least. First of all, Novak had to overcome the circumstances that surrounded him and in which he grew up. He then had to defeat his opponents on the field. In the end he had to do the hardest thing, beat himself to become better than the best. Versatility and adaptability are also virtues especially in sports. He had to change his game to beat Rafa and Federer Novak succeeded in everything he set out to do. He was able to improve his clay skills to beat Rafa. God knows how hard it was to achieve. He had to do the same on grass to beat Federer. He succeeded in both missions and that alone makes him the greatest. Getting better than the best on their field when they're in the prime of their careers is something we don't often witness. When we add to that all the other numbers and records in Novak's hands, it is easy to state that Novak is the best player in the history of tennis. As a comparison, Tennis is a significantly more complex sport than, for example, table tennis (the tables on which the game is played are standardized all over the world), unlike tennis, where there are many different surfaces because the same surfaces are of different hardness and speed. The achievement of playing equally well on all surfaces is unheard of in the history of this game. Novak is also unique in that. Not recognizing Novak as the best of all time and not loving him and respect as a person who has done a lot of good for sports, the young players he helps and people he doesn't know (he pays for medical treatment and operations, finances the construction of sports fields, kindergartens, school equipment, helps the poor ...) is malice, hatred and mental disorder. You sick people learn to live with it. While Novak writes history, you rot in your wickedness.
This is the G.O.A.T comment for Novak
YEAH, Novak is the ONE and ONLY GOAT👍💯tournaments in his pocket Will be vary soon.
@@madhurjyadutta4383 Thanks👍
There is no doubt about it, Djokovic is undisputedly GOAT.
G O A T 💪💪💪
I think Wilander nicely split the difference with "BOAT" - most effective player of all times with some deductions in the artistic grade.
Joko has won more grand slams and masters titles than any other tennis player, but as a tennis fan I don’t enjoy seeing him play and breaking rackets and arguing with umpires, etc. Overall, he lacks the class of top players of his time.
Greatest athlete af all time . ALONE AGAINST HIMSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE AND PREVAILS .❤
He is for me the GOAT matters not what others think. Long live the Nole!
Ofcourse novak is the goat. It's all about ones achievements on the court. If you look for aesthetics and beauty, go to a fashion show!!
Dang! Novak is tennis and the GOAT of tennis. Numbers dont lie
Novak, the Goat ❤
Nole you are the best
He's the Lebron James of tennis. His quest for excellence in every aspect of his game, even into his late thirties, has served him very well. His consistency and longevity is unparalleled. I think it's fair to say though that he has capitalised on some weak opposition.
I said he was the best of all time even 2-3 years ago. I just knew.
We knew since he was back on the track after major elbow injury on Wimby 2018. I was 100% convinsed that he will catch Rafa and Fed and overcome for sure.
not even close, the goat debate was over 2 years ago when novak was unfairly disqualified from US open due to a hollywood performance by Karen the line judge, and then deported from Aus because he didn't want to take some poison scam, and then also not allowed to play at US Open, while also not being given any points for winning Wimbledon. In spite of all that he still kept winning while the stadiums were booing him and against him. What a hero. The look on Bill Gates face when he came back to win the last AO was priceless
GOAT
Dude, Johnny Mac has SEVENTY SEVEN singles titles. How could you make such a horrible mistake? I mean, you were only off by FIFTY TWO!! 52!! And he won 77 doubles titles.
He is one of the best player's around today.... and still going strong , he never gives up or sulks
You want someone else to win set off Novak....just so you can watch him come back even stronger....as he's always going to,
(just greatest of all time)
He is “one of the best”?? Are you on drugs? He has won 7 slams just in the last three years. And he couldn’t play in 2 of them. And lost in finals of 2 others.
Chris Evert played between 1972 and 1989
A lot of people hold some sort of attitude based on I feel instead of I think. On other words you might as well judge someone on their smile instead of what they've achieved. Also, I wonder if the other greats were born as Novak was, out of western(read prejudice) aggression. As Nole began his career he lived under the ever present threat of an early death, killed along with other Serbians by American bombs.
He achieved his greatness despite such a threat, he has achieved his wonderful goals by being steady in his self belief. He could rely on lesser players approbation, he just got on with it , no matter whether he was liked or not. He's not only the best he genuinely deserving of the goat title,unless or until someone can beat his record sometime in the future. I wish that super human luck, they're going to need more than just that. Lastly, Laver achieved his double grand slam pinnacle despite prejudice against his need to become a professional in the face of amateurism. He is respected and lauded on that basis while Novak has togain approval over prejudice despite his dominant record. Once Jimmy Connors was considered unbeatable,until they discovered ways to beat him, well he survived 109 titles, and that should be his record as a player, not his manner or smile.
I think Nole will for ever now be the measuring stick in this game of tennis. Other sports measure greatness by records too, basketball anyone, soccer another and so on.
Novak deserves GOAT in Tennis and long may his record stand.
Numbers speak from itself and he did it when Rafa and Roger were around so...👏👏
Novak is GOAT, and the people who don't like him is only because he is Serbian. If he was anybody else it would be ok with western media. Anyway Novak is on the top of all games and all others are BELOW NOVAK, period.
I also think Djokovic is the goat. That being said, if I had been given one ticket in my lifetime to watch anyone, I would have choose Federer anyday. His aura is beyond numbers and stats.
Novak is the GOAT and I've moved past this debate once he hit his 23rd Slam. I'm now considering him for the greatest athlete of all time. What's he's been doing for nearly 2 decades, and is still doing at 36 doesn't have many parallels in sport. Very soon, he will stand alone in every record, every statistic, every sporting achievement. He is living legend, a role model and a terrific human being.
We just had a pleasure of watching a great ATP Finals 2023 in Torino, and....I don't remember seeing anyone being granted a victory based on his elegance on the court or aesthetics. Do you? 🤔
Though no one can deny Djokovic is the GOAT in terms of statistics, focus and resilience, I find McEnroe's, Edberg's, Sampras', and Federer's game much more attractive. No matter how many grand slams he wins, Djokovic will never have the grace, elegance, sportsmanship and role model attitude that Federer showed throughout his career. But this does not change anything to the fact that Djokovic is the GOAT in terms of number of victories.
No doubt the Novak is the GOAT.
The GOAT Cris Everet said it perfectly
McEnroe is right. Novak is 1 in a Billion.
So 8th best.
Da kojim slučajem nije Srbin odavno bi ga kovali u zvezde kao najboljeg,ovako okreću glavu i prave se ludi,ali po rezultatima stvarno je do sada najbolji! :)
Haters will always be haters.
Can't argue with the stats!
Djoko is the greatest of all time.
I don't think there will be another for decades to come.
Just like Jordan, there will never be another Jordan in basketball!!
Novak's psyche is out of this world, and Federer's aesthetics were out of this world. The GOAT is still Novak.
Novak won only 1 slam in rogers era, novak got his achivents when federer old out of prime and from 2015-2023 novak won his 17 slams against new gen weak era players that look like models than a tennis player
@@truthtruth9056how many slams did Fed win from 2011 to his retirement? The AO he won was because Nole wasn't there, as well as Rafa's USO and AO. Wherever Nole met Roger he clapped him, and wherever he met Rafa outside of Clay, he clapped him. Rafa has 0 wins against Nole outside of clay since 2012, and ever since Djokovic and Nadal were able to play on their high level, Roger's "prime" ended, well, no, it didn't end, it's just that the weak era ended.
@MrMartin48705 kid 30+ old out of prime grandpa federer won 4 grand slam in djokovic so called strong era while djokovic won only 1 slam in federer so called weak era, thats just the proof that federer was the unidsputed tennis goat period.
Djokovic was in those tournament when federer won 2017 2018 ao and 2017 wimbledon, even in 2012 32 age old out of prime federer destroyed prime peak defending wimbledon champion djokovic in semi finals then old out of prime federer also destroyed prime peak murray in the finals to win the title
@@MrMartin48705 lol federer clapped your novak from 2006-2010 check h2h facts 13-6 h2h roger destroyed your novak easily, your novak only started winning more in 2011 when federer was 30+ old out of prime, facts not opinion
At the end ..For the moment the Goat ..ladies and gentlemen is...Mr Novak DJOKOViC...until à Bionic tennis player who will serve at 300k/h,return plays from the baseline on first and second balls, volley at m net + smashes without any faults and get never tired.
This super athlète will born in 2040 break aml record very quickly and be the first model for all next terminators.
At their period there will be competitions reserved for these models because humans couldn´t struggle with them anymore..😅
He has won the most grand slams, and he behaves like a world class tennis ambassador, so deserves to be called the GOAT.
No one is a goat all good players some better then others on how they behave in the game it’s sports it’s great for the winners each time be happy for what you have and be proud x
G.O.A.T. no doubt about that!!!!!
Novak is definitely “THE GOAT” no doubt about it ❤
Wilander is a part of woke narative from la la land. "Boat"? WTF
He is the GOAT on the BOAT.
Well, they can have an opinion but all arguments are on Novak’s side!! Go on champion! You are the best in history of tennis!! You make another levels❤❤❤❤❤❤
Novak Djokovic is certainly the NUMBER 1 in personal courage. Respect!!!
Undisputed GOAT athlete not only in Tennis.
Novak Djokovic is undoubtedly the greatest ,NOT NEGOTIABLE EVER.,champion extraordinaire,
Regardless of how many slams he wins to me the lack of professionalism by misrepect towards the crowd and others and nasty attitude never could be the GOAT. That title could go either to Federer or Nadal or both. It is just my opinion. I respect other people opinions. But I know I'm not the only one feeling this way.the elegance, professionalism and respectful way of Federer and Nadal is unique. We will miss then like no other.watching a grand slams final whit them has no comparison. I don't care if the joker wins 100 slams
Novak Djokovic, The Greatest to ever step on tennis courts ❤
Novak 🙌🏻
People can argue or fans between themselves, but that wont help nobody. The facts are clear. I liked Federer statement, very respectful towards Novak, he knows for quite some time now, that clearly is gonna be Novak. I understand Nadal, he was in the race but only in slams, teoreticaly he is still is, but all other results doesnt come close to Novak, Its obvious that Roger is second because of his grace and beauty. Im joking of course, its because he is more dominant in results than Rafa all around, no doubt. Novak Djokovic firmly holding first position of greatest player of all time. Can we just hold for a second and think, the guy hasnt won all 4 slams in one year,
Poor Novak, I'm not a Novak fan, like at all, but now they are trying to figure out different terms so as not to give him the GOAT title. I mean, please, at this point the conversation is moot. My favorite player, ever, is Wawrinka. Period. But I think even Wawrinka would agree that the GOAT is none other than Novak. Did I say I'm far from being a Novak fan, yes I did. Bordering on Novak hater ha ha. But there comes a time, when the results, the stamina, the will power.. speak. NOVAK is the GOAT, the BOAT, whatever term they want to use or make up to not fully credit or recognize him. There i said it. Ha ha 😂😂😂
GOAT no doubt❤
Wilander speaks bullshit
Did this dude really just pronounce Wilander with a W? The GOAT debate is what it is. Wilander has a point - it should be more then numbers, but it never is because too many people get caught up in the numbers and now the overall impact on the game. Novak's stans will twist themselves into pretzels to call Roger's era a "weak era" but refuse to acknowledge the same is true of Novak's last 5 or 6 years. When all is said and done - more people will focus on the numbers, but the reality is - Roger's got records Novak will never have. Novak has records Roger will never have. And Rafa has clay numbers that probably no one will every top. To declare one of the 3 the GOAT you'd have to include the intangibles - and that's why Novak is working so hard to get that stupid players union to be something. Otherwise he has had next to no impact on the game besides numbers. Roger won with grace, elegance and class, put butts in seats and is a global ambassador for the game and is loved everywhere he goes. Rafa likewise is a fan favorite and has his tennis academies and is teaching kids the game. What's Novak done for the game? Nothing. It was always about HIM. Enter: Players union and "tennis needs to change." Change yes - but only to HIS vision of what it should be. In the end he might be a guy who was better off letting his racket do the talking.
Whay even talk about.We all know he is G.O.A.T. but he is Serbian . If he is English or Swiss American. He would be everyday topic.
Haw great he is.
Instead they just make bad comments on everything Novak say or do.
You go Novak don't stop.. History will tell
Federer is the greatest tennis talent played the game and most beautiful to watch from footwork to all shots. He is a real artist - he is the GOD of tennis!!! Numbers are not everything - Novak is just a ball mashine - who wants to watch a ball machine - borring to death?
Novak is the GOAT, undeniable at this point and I suspect he'll still win at least 2-3 more grand slams minimum before he retires. People who can't accept this are generally just basing this on their feelings rather than facts (which I think even Andy Roddick alluded to after the 2023 US Open) and then they pull out some arbitrary statistic that favours either Federer or Rafa (even though though they they fail to see that Novak then beats them both in nearly every other key performance statistic that matters).
Facts are he is the GOAT even if your feelings say otherwise.
Yes, he is the GOAT. I am proud of him.