They *may* trade their 3rd round pick for Tee Higgins. They aren't seriously going after Ridley and Ridley isn't seriously considering coming here, either.
I think that's a premature conclusion. My gut tells me the Pats are set on Jayden Daniels. I'm 95% sure that Daniels will be taken at #2 and I *suspect* that that will cause the Pats to trade the pick and deal out a 3rd round pick for Justin Fields.
Anyone else take a second look at Nathan Rourke? He looks like he can really ball. What if Nathan is who they want to build up at QB, and they draft a wide reciever?
The idea that Eliot and Wolf will feel compelled to start--and likely imperil the future of--their new QB simply because of DRAFT SLOT is ludicrous. No doubt in my mind the PLAN is the kid won't start. Could he set the world on fire and do so? Possibly, but highly unlikely.
The Patriots haven't "upgraded?" What?! This year they will actually be trying to win games. You imply that they were trying to win games last year? Which freaking one was that? Mac threw 3 pick sixes which is a franchise record and they were 27th in the red zone. The goal was a high draft pick, a lot of cap space and a weak schedule...just where in that smoking shell hole of a season was there an attempt to win games?
Marc's right; Phil seems to forget Eliot comes from a team that did this TWICE. The new kid ain't starting unless things go WAY better than anticipated.
I am completely OK with letting Jaden or Drake sit and come in once in a while. We are not winning the Super Bowl next year that’s a fact. Let them gain experience. While we acquire more weapons and protection for the following season. If we win six games or five or four, that’s fine because we can get one of the best guards or tackles in next draft
That owner DOES know how to think strategically and saw firsthand how things fell apart when Bill no longer operated that way. The idea RKK will pressure them to play a kid who's not ready--especially after seeing Mac get abused and discarded... c'mon. Why does everyone suddenly think RKK is a moron or clone of Jerry Jones?
Opinions are just that, opinions, but the real football people make decisions, that’s their profession, so let’s let them do their job and build a foundation and future here. No plan goes accordingly 100%, but more hits than misses is a good start.
Zo is 100% right. If the kid can play, he will play week one. I just hope they don't rush him into it if he truly is not ready. If they do, we are back here again in three years.
Draft MHJ at 3 or trade back to 6 and take Nabers or Odunze and then draft Nix or Penix in round 2. You're years away from winning again, build the team up with picks.
With the QB we've got drafting MHJ would be like buying a Formula 1 race car and driving it around a supermarket parking lot. You think a 21 year-old MHJ won't sit out a year rather than play for a team with QBs that will target him maybe four times a game?
I hate all these people saying you take a quarterback at 3, and not saying THE quarterback. The Patriots cannot settle for whoever falls to them, they need to identify THEIR GUY and go get him if need be. If they don't have someone they're not willing to do that with, then they don't have THE GUY. You then should stick and pick the best available which is MHJ, or trade down to get more draft picks. Then draft a quarterback with the second round pick that you can develop.
What good does getting these QBs do no star receivers want to come here and I feel bad for whoever our QB will be even if we fix the oline issue our receivers are lackluster at best and we have way too many needs than getting good receivers in the draft after the 2nd round all the receivers are WR3s, 4s at best
It is not a "strong quarterback draft." Williams is very good and worth a first overall but the rest of the guys are late first or below. Brissett fights with Zappe for the starter's role and they draft a QB in a later round. Brissett is here to start this year. He played for van Pelt in Cleveland. He'll have maybe Ridley Henry and a first or second round pick to throw to. They have a weak schedule a very good defense, Brissett doesn't melt under pressure, plays his butt off....ten wins? I'll take that for an improvement. No rookie QB starters for the Pats this year we already had a 3-14 season.
Williams isn’t that much over maye or Daniels. It’s as likely that only 1 of them amounts to anything and that the 1 isn’t the first one taken. This is a cold weather spot and they need a qb who has size to deal with that
I agree that this QB class is *seriously* overhyped. But the Pats' 2024 schedule is *anything* but weak and their "very good defense" isn't as good as you think.
Brissett is a good signing. Stop the Maye nonsense, JJ is better and should be our QB. Also, there aren't big names in FA to make a big splash. Let them do what they are doing, it's looking good so far.
@@WLJ1287 you mean the championship game Michigan won? JJ knows how to read the line of scrimmage, make changes, because h3 played in an nfl style offense. He has a cannon of an arm, can run, is a leader, he's accurate and makes better decisions with the ball. He also has great pocket feet. Don't be fooled by the amount of td's. Daniels played with a great arsenal throwing to his 1st 2 reads in his 5th year. Maye doesn't have neither the feet, or quick decision making. I will root for whoever they pick, but I do believe JJ is the best QB of the bunch and he's younger than most, coach3s can polish him better.
@@jackfeldman8684 definitely not crying little guy. 8 mil for a backup qb that's "a good locker room guy" is doing exactly what belichick did. Remember Hoyer?
Eliott Wolf is a friggin' genius. Make him the GM right now. I love everything he has done so far. Every move has been smart, methodical, and part of a long term plan for success.
@user-vg2eg7oo5n I believe none of the supposed bs leaks of conversations BB always said its a players game that alone proves he would spend on talent but kraft signs the check
Quarter back = 1-16 go out draft offensive lineman and receivers had a quarterback in Mac but confidence was shattered and smoked by team. Need offense not quarterback
These guys should watch former players (Zolak doesn’t count…ask parcells) and other analysts. No idea what they’re talking about. No idea why I listen.
The camera man/woman needs to pan out at all times....STOP constantly going to each person when they talk...each time I watch this channel I have to turn away because of the dizziness I get in my head trying to follow the angle on my TV 🤦🤷
Patriots, Bills, and Panthers (and Cowboys) are the saddest organizations in the league that have ZERO hope! With that said, congrats Jacoby on returning to your home. I think it’s more than safe to say, it was because of Brady and the pieces around him why the Pats have ANY Lombardis at all!
@@WLJ1287 I’m referring to the dud argument that it was because of Belichick’s “genius” why the Pats had the success they did over Brady. The last 4 years show that he was just a glorified average head coach/GM but a defensive coordinator mastermind.
@@KuaG12 defensive mastermind yes, absolute retard when it came to wr. That spans decades and the truth will come out if this team starts to draft and develop wr well then it was bill; however I don’t think all GM things were bill I think Mac jones was pushed on him.
Theres no evidence that the Pats are playing "the long game." The radio sports people are maddening. Also someone said "what have they done to indicate theyll do better in '24 than in '23?" You can be a sports radio guy and be amazingly dumb as long as you have a loud voice.
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Felger is by far the worst but Bertrand gives him a run for his money many days.
Get rid of them both!
I’d listen to paint drying over hearing them bitch about EVERYTHING
@@DMKFACTORnow why would they do that? They need the bad takes for ratings
@@liamkenney3933 There are PLENTY of Boston Sports Media people that do a great job of that already! Removing 2 of the worst isn’t a bad choice!
I used to think that about Bedard, but he's been reasonable this off-season.
atleast Phil wasnt letting Bertrand dogwalk with these fully contrarian takes
I think the condition of the line will determine who plays.
Please fire Beetle! This guy makes Wiggy look like a genius!
Wiggy and genius are NEVER in the same sentence!
I use to listen to 985 all the time….the day I stopped is when they fired the wrong morning host
Patriots will be drafting in the top 10 for a few years.
Or maybe drafting in the top few for 10 years 😜😜
Brisset is the wk1 starter and should be due to our team constraints for this season IMO
Good guys great players
Looking to 2026 there's just to many holes to fill in one year. Having cap space could be very valuable come cutdown day.
Bertrand is right. Let the kid sit and learn the offense work on weaknesses/mechanics while AVP can refine his system.
Especially if it’s Drake Maye. He needs to sit for at least a year and work on his footwork
Love seeing Phil put these guys into place
Bob krafts stooge
The WORST thing the Pats can do is start a rookie QB year one. Learn from history. Almost all great QBs sat their first year in the league.
If they don’t get a huge receiver in free agency then they’re getting mhj and then trading back up to get a second round guy
They *may* trade their 3rd round pick for Tee Higgins. They aren't seriously going after Ridley and Ridley isn't seriously considering coming here, either.
aye zolack, what sunglasses are those? its a good look
I'm ok with them starting Brissett over the rookie to start the season. Depends what the team looks like to start the season
Brissett over Mac all day.
I think that's a premature conclusion. My gut tells me the Pats are set on Jayden Daniels. I'm 95% sure that Daniels will be taken at #2 and I *suspect* that that will cause the Pats to trade the pick and deal out a 3rd round pick for Justin Fields.
Brissett can be a competent veteran starter; but ultimately it’s going to depend on who they draft and if Mayo can avoid ruining the franchise.
Bertrand people may not like, but his questions and opinions are lucid and extremely logical and not apologizing for the Patriots. Critical thinking.
Anyone else take a second look at Nathan Rourke? He looks like he can really ball. What if Nathan is who they want to build up at QB, and they draft a wide reciever?
I was thinking draft Harrison with #3 and trade up from 34 to draft Penix
he's 26 in May hes a backup/practice squad qb
@@CraigSalmon27or BO nix Christian Gonzalez’s friend
If Rourke was good why doesn’t anyone else want him
@@CraigSalmon27this…this right here!
Tell em ‘Zo❤
The idea that Eliot and Wolf will feel compelled to start--and likely imperil the future of--their new QB simply because of DRAFT SLOT is ludicrous.
No doubt in my mind the PLAN is the kid won't start. Could he set the world on fire and do so? Possibly, but highly unlikely.
Why did they not bring in a veteran four years ago.
We had cam newton?
The Patriots haven't "upgraded?" What?! This year they will actually be trying to win games. You imply that they were trying to win games last year? Which freaking one was that? Mac threw 3 pick sixes which is a franchise record and they were 27th in the red zone. The goal was a high draft pick, a lot of cap space and a weak schedule...just where in that smoking shell hole of a season was there an attempt to win games?
Marc's right; Phil seems to forget Eliot comes from a team that did this TWICE. The new kid ain't starting unless things go WAY better than anticipated.
I am completely OK with letting Jaden or Drake sit and come in once in a while. We are not winning the Super Bowl next year that’s a fact. Let them gain experience. While we acquire more weapons and protection for the following season. If we win six games or five or four, that’s fine because we can get one of the best guards or tackles in next draft
That owner DOES know how to think strategically and saw firsthand how things fell apart when Bill no longer operated that way. The idea RKK will pressure them to play a kid who's not ready--especially after seeing Mac get abused and discarded... c'mon. Why does everyone suddenly think RKK is a moron or clone of Jerry Jones?
Opinions are just that, opinions, but the real football people make decisions, that’s their profession, so let’s let them do their job and build a foundation and future here. No plan goes accordingly 100%, but more hits than misses is a good start.
Zo is 100% right. If the kid can play, he will play week one. I just hope they don't rush him into it if he truly is not ready. If they do, we are back here again in three years.
All i ask is they make them compete for the qb1 job. If the rook aint ready then fine. But make jocobey earn it
i cannot take anyone who wears sunglasses indoors seriously .
Mark “know it all” Bertrand lol.
Yeah bro he’s a negative Nancy boy❤😂
Draft MHJ at 3 or trade back to 6 and take Nabers or Odunze and then draft Nix or Penix in round 2. You're years away from winning again, build the team up with picks.
With the QB we've got drafting MHJ would be like buying a Formula 1 race car and driving it around a supermarket parking lot. You think a 21 year-old MHJ won't sit out a year rather than play for a team with QBs that will target him maybe four times a game?
@@ald7248 You're right, we should wait 20 years if it takes that long to draft some talent.
I hate all these people saying you take a quarterback at 3, and not saying THE quarterback. The Patriots cannot settle for whoever falls to them, they need to identify THEIR GUY and go get him if need be. If they don't have someone they're not willing to do that with, then they don't have THE GUY. You then should stick and pick the best available which is MHJ, or trade down to get more draft picks. Then draft a quarterback with the second round pick that you can develop.
Wow you fans are so triggered up and now it's even by how things are worded 😂 lol smh
You think MJH is going to sign for a team with a QB (Brissett) who will target him *maybe* 4 times a game? 😉
I’d rather Brissett help AVP learn to call plays 😅
This show is rough.
What good does getting these QBs do no star receivers want to come here and I feel bad for whoever our QB will be even if we fix the oline issue our receivers are lackluster at best and we have way too many needs than getting good receivers in the draft after the 2nd round all the receivers are WR3s, 4s at best
Somebody give this guy a cheese burger! Did he forgot that Mac Jones started on his rookie year. Terrible
It is not a "strong quarterback draft." Williams is very good and worth a first overall but the rest of the guys are late first or below.
Brissett fights with Zappe for the starter's role and they draft a QB in a later round. Brissett is here to start this year. He played for van Pelt in Cleveland.
He'll have maybe Ridley Henry and a first or second round pick to throw to. They have a weak schedule a very good defense, Brissett doesn't melt under pressure, plays his butt off....ten wins? I'll take that for an improvement.
No rookie QB starters for the Pats this year we already had a 3-14 season.
Williams isn’t that much over maye or Daniels. It’s as likely that only 1 of them amounts to anything and that the 1 isn’t the first one taken. This is a cold weather spot and they need a qb who has size to deal with that
I agree that this QB class is *seriously* overhyped. But the Pats' 2024 schedule is *anything* but weak and their "very good defense" isn't as good as you think.
Brissett is a good signing. Stop the Maye nonsense, JJ is better and should be our QB. Also, there aren't big names in FA to make a big splash. Let them do what they are doing, it's looking good so far.
Looks like Washington is going to take Daniels
If they get jj do they grab Harrison at 3?
JJ is not good, did you even watch the game against Washington.
@@Sasha-vb3mhthen they can have another rg3
@@WLJ1287 you mean the championship game Michigan won? JJ knows how to read the line of scrimmage, make changes, because h3 played in an nfl style offense. He has a cannon of an arm, can run, is a leader, he's accurate and makes better decisions with the ball. He also has great pocket feet. Don't be fooled by the amount of td's. Daniels played with a great arsenal throwing to his 1st 2 reads in his 5th year. Maye doesn't have neither the feet, or quick decision making. I will root for whoever they pick, but I do believe JJ is the best QB of the bunch and he's younger than most, coach3s can polish him better.
Hey Patriots fans! Get excited for... Jacoby Brissett!!!! Woooooooo
Spend all the money, who cares if they are good or not spend it all!!!!! Lmaoo they needed a backup QB and they got one stop crying
For real tho no bullshit. It ain’t getting better anytime soon. I’ll take what I can get. Beggars can’t be choosers. Love me some Jacoby brisket
@@jackfeldman8684 definitely not crying little guy. 8 mil for a backup qb that's "a good locker room guy" is doing exactly what belichick did. Remember Hoyer?
Brisket is absolute trash
@@patriotsdynasty4866Mac and zappe are worse
Eliott Wolf is a friggin' genius. Make him the GM right now. I love everything he has done so far. Every move has been smart, methodical, and part of a long term plan for success.
Time to burn the good ole Mac N Cheese jersey
You’re not playing the qb week 1. Dumb take
A substitute teacher/babysitter for $8,000,000. What inflations?
NEED MORE PHIL PLS. He’s the only with reason
this ain't the bill belichick patriots anymore 😮
Ya cause they are making dumbass moves already
Those days ended when Bill told the Kraft's that Tommy was washed up.
Drafting good offensive players hurt Belichick's old head.
So stupid, all that culture gone, and now we want to be the Green Bay packers? Very sad, the krafts will drive us into the ground
@user-vg2eg7oo5n I believe none of the supposed bs leaks of conversations BB always said its a players game that alone proves he would spend on talent but kraft signs the check
Both the Krafts and Belichick could not see that Brady was still great.
Dumb geniuses got what they deserved.
Sign a big receiver go get fields for fourth rounder draft Harrison then you’re cooking on offense
You'd have to be cooking to do that.
Then trade down get JJ from Michigan And get more draft picks to build this team
JJ is not good his team was
JJ will be gone by #7
@@ald7248 I don’t think he’ll go that high but it’s fine if he does. Not interested
Get used to losing...2-15 coming..Pats doing what they do best..cheap.
Wait until they bring back the Pete Carrol baloney sandwhiches.
Build another lighthouse. Jonathan Kraft's _ _ _ _ needs to be represented, too.
Quarter back = 1-16 go out draft offensive lineman and receivers had a quarterback in Mac but confidence was shattered and smoked by team. Need offense not quarterback
We're still bad .. we signed the worse of the worse. Com on
These guys should watch former players (Zolak doesn’t count…ask parcells) and other analysts. No idea what they’re talking about. No idea why I listen.
The camera man/woman needs to pan out at all times....STOP constantly going to each person when they talk...each time I watch this channel I have to turn away because of the dizziness I get in my head trying to follow the angle on my TV 🤦🤷
Patriots, Bills, and Panthers (and Cowboys) are the saddest organizations in the league that have ZERO hope! With that said, congrats Jacoby on returning to your home. I think it’s more than safe to say, it was because of Brady and the pieces around him why the Pats have ANY Lombardis at all!
lol Brady and the pieces around him, what exactly do you think a team is
@@WLJ1287 I’m referring to the dud argument that it was because of Belichick’s “genius” why the Pats had the success they did over Brady. The last 4 years show that he was just a glorified average head coach/GM but a defensive coordinator mastermind.
@@KuaG12 defensive mastermind yes, absolute retard when it came to wr. That spans decades and the truth will come out if this team starts to draft and develop wr well then it was bill; however I don’t think all GM things were bill I think Mac jones was pushed on him.
Jacoby
I have a feeling that it is going to be Harrison Jr with third pick, QB in late 1st (after trades) or early 2nd, then tackle with 3rd.
I think it's Jayden Daniels or they trade the pick if he's not available (likely) and deal a 3rd round pick for Fields.
Theres no evidence that the Pats are playing "the long game." The radio sports people are maddening. Also someone said "what have they done to indicate theyll do better in '24 than in '23?" You can be a sports radio guy and be amazingly dumb as long as you have a loud voice.
Jeepers Bertrand, Felger, Mazz, none of these guys know anything.
beetle blows replace him with Jim Murray
Pure insanity to play rookie QB week 1...can we please chill out folks? Zolak and Perry are wrong here
Beatle is a lousy commentator. All noise. No thought in anything he says.
yeah no shlt
Nathan rourke !!!! Give the kid a chance draft Marvin jr
It should have been Hardy and Zolak. Beetle sucks
Jacoby's a lot like Scott Zoloft.... milking a mediocre career for all it's worth