I've driven both VTEC and VVTI cars out on the roads at night. VTEC by Honda is usually a smoother and more comfortable ride even when hard accelerating. But I'd have to go with the VVTI in my 2005 Camry Sportivo. It throws you in the back of your seat very harshly and feels much more like a true sports car. Though I loved the many times within my mate's Honda NSX which by all means is an absolute beast of a machine, there is just no denying how brutal the throwback is of a VVTI Toyota Camry is. Being completely honest, I found the VVTI to kick in more than VTEC but VTEC is still a very smooth and genius design.
Toyotas VTT-I system gives you more torque at lower RPMs. Most Toyotas hit 90% torque as low as 2300 RPM and carry it all the way to peak. As an example, my 2007 Lexus GS puts out 274 pound feet of torque at 3600 RPM but it hits 90% of the torque at around 2300 RPM.
VTEC includes VVT difference is that VVT doesn't have lift the intelligent version of VTEC is of course, i-VTEC which is where the i in VVT-i also comes from
I'm so sorry, what I said earlier is completely wrong. VTEC does not have VVT. That would be i-VTEC, which combines VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) and VTC (Valve Timing Control)! My bad 😔
ascherith ubel blatt really bro..vtec is for power thats y all honda cars more faster than toyota ..but toyota is damn slow and boring...all toyota cars for uncle coz toyota shape like uncle cars
Tharshanan 7 lol. vtec is just another names for Variable Valve Timing. an ancient technology discovered from 100+ years old ago. used in ship & train steam engine, aeroplanes and finally get into automobile around 80s by alpha romeo. so what honda did just gave it a cool names & sold it as marketing gimmick for pseudo superior engines. all honda's are faster than Toyota 's?? wanna bet? lol. my family car is a honda freed with SOHC engine & of course the so proud vtec which i later found that's only the intake is vtec but the out takes is not variable just spinning in same speed. i can tell you that my friends yaris will smokes my car anyday in engine comparison lol. the drive by wire is a jokes because its lag, lower torques is slow, 10liters for 100km is not the efficiency we like to hear from tge mighty superior vtec engine, the vtec sound is rediculous because it made a good sound but the car running like standing still lol. if u talking about AE86 vs honda s2000, sure the s2000 will win the contest any day, because the AE86 didn't use vvt and its engine techs is older than the s2000. the type R also probably faster than GT86 especially on the straight. but on the curves the GT86 will kiss it goodbye. but you still can't use this as the main argument or comparison because all honda non performance cars or normal passenger oriented cars are SLOW. they all got SOHC engines because its cheap to produce, just differentiated in compression ratio, so they don't need to put money in RnD. if you have a jazz/fit, hrc, etc its basically the same engines from 2006 jazz with couples addition. that's why honda's car are not populars in many countries around the globe. because its always needs to be rev like a maniac to get into the same power band or torque compares to the engines from the others manufacturers. just see it your self, like the crv vs mazda 3. yes the SOHC will gives better fuel consumption if you drives like a walking snail at 20 to 60km/h, when you kicking in the vvt it cause sudden spike of power but the SOHC can't keep up because in some range the rocker arms will be floating because the spring elasticity out power by the engines combustion cycle & because it's just a half vtec the ecu has to reset the timing for firing to wait for the exhaust to keep up. the same logic can be applied in CPU thermal architectures. what will happens if your CPU intake fans are feeding too much air into the CPU case but the out takes can't keep up to suck it away?? vtec just a marketing jargon for ignoramus species who think that if their cars got the badge that read vtec than the car, the engines must be superior. wrong! toyota models are for uncle and grandpa. you are right, i couldn't agree more lol. but at least they don't cutting half of their valve timing tech to gain more profits and sells BS to regular costumers lol. i don't like toyota too, they are also cheated by controlling market perspectives on car models, they are lack of innovations cause they got so much money so they can just buy other technologies without investment in RnD. basically they are all corporates sick bastard who gain bigger profits by sugar coating their products dude. so never worshipping a car manufacturs.
in our country vtec are super rare engine so i must use high performance camshaft for better valve lifting to boost that vvt-i engine but it also decrease the fuel effciency
Woah woah woaaaahhh, I was just looking for some clarification on valve timing systems I didn't expect not Rich Brian bangers! I genuinely checked I didn't have another tab open or something.. xD
thank you haha, I'm planning on redoing this video sometime soon considering there are a few mistakes here and there, and some weird editing choices that my 14 year old self made 😂
I’ve only ever drove VVTI in the Celica GTS … never felt anything engage .. don’t get me wrong it’s not like Vtech is super noticeable power wise “stock” … but at least in the sound you can hear the crossover and somewhat feel the Rpm’s climb faster…
@@ggyjjbc Maybe it does lol .. like I said maybe it’s the Crossover sound on Vtec that makes you feel it more (psychologically) 👂 … it’s hard to feel anything on a 170hp-200hp 4 cylinder with low torque in general lol Especially since I drove my G37 to my friends house that day… switching over to a car with half the power that quick makes it harder to feel the potential
I got a hemi pushing 340hp but I really do miss my vvti corolla s 😭 it was like a mf go kart but for the skreets 😭Im considering buying another one for a daily driver ☺️
depends if it has normal VVT-i or Dual VVT-i. If it is VVT-i then only intake camshaft has vvti, if it is Dual VVT-i then both intake and exhaust has vvti.
sorry, I didn't go as in depth as I should've. So to adjust the cam timing the cam gear can shift by a few degrees using a solenoid/motor if I'm not wrong. This solenoid shifts the cam gears by a few degrees based on the ECU tuning, Rpm, boost, etc.
@@vinzabarico3905 if u use manual, hit your gas till 6k rpm, then upshift your gear. If u use cvt, drive in manual mode so that u can hold to 6k rpm and shift it If u use 4 AT, drive in 3rd gear.
I enjoyed it buddy great job bud I hope that you had a great day at school that day when you made this video buddy great job bro now I even understand waye more about VTEC now because of yourself buddy so thanx a ton bud
they thought vtec was just fast but they didn't know vvti was more faster. because vtec is more popular with those who don't know about cars, but vvti is really better. vtec is just popular with those (kicks in kicks in yow) but for those who know about cars, vvti is more popular
nope, vtec is faster because it also adjusts cam lift, not just the timing. VVTi is more popular because it's much more simple and easier to do (including aftermarket with the V-Cam for Rb26 engines). VTEC on the other hand, requires a completely different valve train.
More importantly vtec has valve timing and valve lift. VVT-i only controls timing. Big difference. Honda has always been about power and efficiency, Toyota efficiency and longevity.
No offense, but my friend is Asian as well and he sound exactly like you in your music. Idk why, but he's really hit or miss. Sounds very monotone and not the best bars, but sometimes he comes thru with some good bars. You should really look into switching your tone throughout the song so it doesn't bore people. It's uncommon for songs to be good using monotone, but it happens sometimes. Usually with established artists tho, unless thats their main style and blew up off that. Again that's uncommon. Good Video tho! PS The song is kind of distracting me from the actual info your trying to give. I have to rewind it a lot because I'm trying to hear about Variable Valve Timing, not your song bro. I understand if your just trying to get yourself out there, but take what I said into consideration please.
If you want to talk about a Honda Car you may not know about I think you should look into the Honda S800. It was the first sub liter car to break the 100 MPH barrier, and there are a few fun points of interest of the car and engine.
@@tokmoltv6257 Disagreee The Best Engine Toyota Ever Is The 5K And 4AGE In My Opinion The Best Engine In The World Is Honda B18C Honda K20A Nissan RB26DETT Mitsubishi 4G63 And The Mazda 13B-REW
Variable valve timing/VVT (Vtec, Mivec, VVTi)mekanisme kerjanya adalah meningkatkan durasi overlap serta meningkatkan langkah hisap menjadi retard. fungsi utamanya untuk mengurangi emisi, dengan meningkatnya durasi overlap, backpressure gas buang masuk ke ruang bakar lebih banyak sehingga meningkatkan suhu dan mempercepat titik bakar bbm/fuel. pada mesin 4silinder, desain header knalpot versi pabrikan konfigurasi umumnya 4-1 dengan percabangan pendek, ini membuat tekanannya ruang bakar terlalu padat di rpm rendah yang membebani kerja mesin dirpm menengah-atas. saat VVT berkerja, durasi langkah hisap menjadi retard ini bisa mengurangi beban mesin di rpm menengah-atas. yang kita rasakan seperti ada peningkatan tenaga atau seperti sensasi mesin turbo. kurang lebihnya begitu bro...cmiiw
Ur telling me that the stock 2JZ-GTE that comes with 300+ hp stock and with stock internals that can handle 3x the power it comes with can get beat by a car made by Honda during that time period. The NEW Honda type R might be a little faster not sure but with 1000$ on a tune and turbo will gap the shit out of the type R also keep in mind the 2JZ is like 20+ years older. Even tho honda perfected the v-tec and vvt-i first, Toyota made it better
I've driven both VTEC and VVTI cars out on the roads at night. VTEC by Honda is usually a smoother and more comfortable ride even when hard accelerating. But I'd have to go with the VVTI in my 2005 Camry Sportivo. It throws you in the back of your seat very harshly and feels much more like a true sports car. Though I loved the many times within my mate's Honda NSX which by all means is an absolute beast of a machine, there is just no denying how brutal the throwback is of a VVTI Toyota Camry is. Being completely honest, I found the VVTI to kick in more than VTEC but VTEC is still a very smooth and genius design.
definitely have to go try that out myself hahah, thanks for sharing
Toyotas VTT-I system gives you more torque at lower RPMs. Most Toyotas hit 90% torque as low as 2300 RPM and carry it all the way to peak. As an example, my 2007 Lexus GS puts out 274 pound feet of torque at 3600 RPM but it hits 90% of the torque at around 2300 RPM.
@@noahschaub1984best explanation
VTEC includes VVT
difference is that VVT doesn't have lift
the intelligent version of VTEC is of course, i-VTEC which is where the i in VVT-i also comes from
I'm so sorry, what I said earlier is completely wrong. VTEC does not have VVT. That would be i-VTEC, which combines VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) and VTC (Valve Timing Control)! My bad 😔
Huh. I always figured VTEC was just a name brand version of any other engine with Variable Valve Timing, lol
It more cool to say V tec
Image hearing people Vvt kick in yo
@@randomcatontheinternet2771 he meant he just now realized vtec and vvt are two completely different things.
Lmao say whaaa? 😂 🤦🏾♂️
VVTI just kicks in yoo
ascherith ubel blatt vvti fucks u😂
Tharshanan 7 lol 😂
ascherith ubel blatt really bro..vtec is for power thats y all honda cars more faster than toyota ..but toyota is damn slow and boring...all toyota cars for uncle coz toyota shape like uncle cars
Tharshanan 7 lol. vtec is just another names for Variable Valve Timing. an ancient technology discovered from 100+ years old ago. used in ship & train steam engine, aeroplanes and finally get into automobile around 80s by alpha romeo. so what honda did just gave it a cool names & sold it as marketing gimmick for pseudo superior engines.
all honda's are faster than Toyota 's?? wanna bet? lol.
my family car is a honda freed with SOHC engine & of course the so proud vtec which i later found that's only the intake is vtec but the out takes is not variable just spinning in same speed. i can tell you that my friends yaris will smokes my car anyday in engine comparison lol. the drive by wire is a jokes because its lag, lower torques is slow, 10liters for 100km is not the efficiency we like to hear from tge mighty superior vtec engine, the vtec sound is rediculous because it made a good sound but the car running like standing still lol.
if u talking about AE86 vs honda s2000, sure the s2000 will win the contest any day, because the AE86 didn't use vvt and its engine techs is older than the s2000. the type R also probably faster than GT86 especially on the straight. but on the curves the GT86 will kiss it goodbye.
but you still can't use this as the main argument or comparison because all honda non performance cars or normal passenger oriented cars are SLOW. they all got SOHC engines because its cheap to produce, just differentiated in compression ratio, so they don't need to put money in RnD. if you have a jazz/fit, hrc, etc its basically the same engines from 2006 jazz with couples addition. that's why honda's car are not populars in many countries around the globe. because its always needs to be rev like a maniac to get into the same power band or torque compares to the engines from the others manufacturers. just see it your self, like the crv vs mazda 3.
yes the SOHC will gives better fuel consumption if you drives like a walking snail at 20 to 60km/h, when you kicking in the vvt it cause sudden spike of power but the SOHC can't keep up because in some range the rocker arms will be floating because the spring elasticity out power by the engines combustion cycle & because it's just a half vtec the ecu has to reset the timing for firing to wait for the exhaust to keep up. the same logic can be applied in CPU thermal architectures. what will happens if your CPU intake fans are feeding too much air into the CPU case but the out takes can't keep up to suck it away??
vtec just a marketing jargon for ignoramus species who think that if their cars got the badge that read vtec than the car, the engines must be superior. wrong!
toyota models are for uncle and grandpa. you are right, i couldn't agree more lol. but at least they don't cutting half of their valve timing tech to gain more profits and sells BS to regular costumers lol.
i don't like toyota too, they are also cheated by controlling market perspectives on car models, they are lack of innovations cause they got so much money so they can just buy other technologies without investment in RnD.
basically they are all corporates sick bastard who gain bigger profits by sugar coating their products dude. so never worshipping a car manufacturs.
ascherith ubel blatt he is rice dude
got a scion xB with 16 VVT-i, thought this toaster wouldnt go fast but damn that engine dont mess around.
I got it in my 06 rav4😅. I was wondering wat vvti was😄
Toyotas version of vtec is called VVTL-I. It is variable valve timing with valve lift control.
Yep, Celica 2zz-ge.
@@MikeyA5693 Not just the celica, the matrix, corolla, and pontiac vibe got it too.
@@jimchance5006 yep
in our country vtec are super rare engine so i must use high performance camshaft for better valve lifting to boost that vvt-i engine but it also decrease the fuel effciency
Woah woah woaaaahhh, I was just looking for some clarification on valve timing systems I didn't expect not Rich Brian bangers!
I genuinely checked I didn't have another tab open or something.. xD
hahaha yea. history came out right before I started editing and I just HAD to use the song
Great video. Thanks for explaining me the difference between VTEC and VVT-i!
thanks a lot! i'm glad you enjoyed it :)
VVT can be louder at high rev, but I prefer VTEC. 💪
There's VVT-I L and Lexus LS 500 (V35A-FTS) has both on intake and exhaust.
I gave you a thumbs up for getting to the point and not taking 30 minutes to blah blah blah!
thank you haha, I'm planning on redoing this video sometime soon considering there are a few mistakes here and there, and some weird editing choices that my 14 year old self made 😂
Actually pretty high quality video damn, kinda underrated as well
thanks a lot man, appreciate the positive feedback!
Holy hell! 4.7k views so far! Never expected this video to blow up this much. I'm glad you guys liked it!
123k now
lol
man I appreciate the use of rich brian 😍😍
haha thanks a lot
I’ve only ever drove VVTI in the Celica GTS … never felt anything engage .. don’t get me wrong it’s not like Vtech is super noticeable power wise “stock” … but at least in the sound you can hear the crossover and somewhat feel the Rpm’s climb faster…
VVT-i is only in the celica gt, VVTL-i is in the gts. and trust me when I say, there’s no way to miss when it kicks in😂 it ads 40hp instantly
@@ggyjjbc
Maybe it does lol .. like I said maybe it’s the Crossover sound on Vtec that makes you feel it more (psychologically) 👂 … it’s hard to feel anything on a 170hp-200hp 4 cylinder with low torque in general lol
Especially since I drove my G37 to my friends house that day… switching over to a car with half the power that quick makes it harder to feel the potential
for sure ill be putting a vvt-i in my camry dx 95
If you CAN mistake the crankshaft with the camshaft, you shouldn't even TOUCH a damn car engine.
I got a hemi pushing 340hp but I really do miss my vvti corolla s 😭 it was like a mf go kart but for the skreets 😭Im considering buying another one for a daily driver ☺️
oh yea for sure, those things are pretty quick for what they are, especially when boosted.
Go for the Corolla xrs definitely an upgrade worth the extra thousand
VTE-C and VVTL-I 👌
Tell me more..
Thank you for the video now I understand the operation of these two mechanical devices.
Glad you understood the video, many thanks!
Does vvti only affect one camshaft or both intake and exhasr and does this apply to the 2zzge with the vvtli
depends if it has normal VVT-i or Dual VVT-i. If it is VVT-i then only intake camshaft has vvti, if it is Dual VVT-i then both intake and exhaust has vvti.
You had a few inaccuracies, but it was entertaining.
So is the cam advancing or retarding at high rpm ? Anybody ?I haven't seen any video that specifis
Awesome video bro
Sorry bro. Vtec, and I vtec 2 different things. The I vtec uses both low and high lobes as well as a variable cam advance like in the vvti.
yup, this one talked about VTEC so i didn't mention i-VTEC
But how does vtec mechanism controls the timing? From the video I understand it controlls only the lift. But maybe I am wrong. Thanks!
sorry, I didn't go as in depth as I should've. So to adjust the cam timing the cam gear can shift by a few degrees using a solenoid/motor if I'm not wrong. This solenoid shifts the cam gears by a few degrees based on the ECU tuning, Rpm, boost, etc.
@@JCMediaYT and that is call VTC, not VTEC.
Which is better?
theres not really a "superior" system but VTEC seems to be more popular for performance
Sir VVT technology system truck's engine way note coming please reply thank you sir I'm from India
Thanks to the video and share the information!
dont forget the toyota 2zzge has Lift thats like hondas Vtec it kicks in at around 6700 upto 8200 rpms which the toyota 1zzfe doesnt have
very underrated motor for sure, got to try one out in a celica. shame it was an auto though
Vtev and vvti which has good fuel consumption
For those who said toyota vvti engine is slow, they don’t know how to make it kicks in 🤣
how do I use my vvti?
@@vinzabarico3905 if u use manual, hit your gas till 6k rpm, then upshift your gear.
If u use cvt, drive in manual mode so that u can hold to 6k rpm and shift it
If u use 4 AT, drive in 3rd gear.
@@ZACKHO24 sheesh. Thankssss sir!!
Nice video!! Keep up the good work!
thanks a lot!
I enjoyed it buddy great job bud I hope that you had a great day at school that day when you made this video buddy great job bro now I even understand waye more about VTEC now because of yourself buddy so thanx a ton bud
hahah thanks a lot man, hope you're have a good day too! Glad you found it helpful, I really appreciate the feedback!
I love this video bro🖤
One day if I have enough money, I will buy one of those
who tried vvti installing turbo with stock internals
Great video... Precise information!
Thank you very much!
they thought vtec was just fast but they didn't know vvti was more faster.
because vtec is more popular with those who don't know about cars, but vvti is really better. vtec is just popular with those (kicks in kicks in yow) but for those who know about cars, vvti is more popular
nope, vtec is faster because it also adjusts cam lift, not just the timing. VVTi is more popular because it's much more simple and easier to do (including aftermarket with the V-Cam for Rb26 engines). VTEC on the other hand, requires a completely different valve train.
Mivec Kicks in
Which one better?
can't exactly say, either one is great
do you have a detailed document about the combustion of VTEC system ?
You shouldn't do that to Momma. She doesn't like 1500hp. Rides.
So my crappy ass toyota corolla 2013 vvt i is actually good engine ? Like i can do the same thing that i do on a vtec engine ?????????????
not the same thing but similar. regardless though toyota and honda motors are very well built
Mechanical is usually more dependable than electronic imo.
yup, definitely
great video!
thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
I had a Honda inspire vtec and i sold it for a fast and more powerful Toyota vvti mark x. The Toyota vvti working way better then the honda vtec
great video. Please loose the background music or make it lower thanks.
it's the same thing. thank you
No, no it's not. Watch the video again😂
I'm still confused
The vvti in my XV50 kicks way harder then my old civics vtec but I still love both
do you have the 2.4 or 3.5?
It was very infrromatrriv
VTEC KICKED IN YO
1:15 no, sir...we can't see...that's really fast.
exactly, it's so fast that you can't see it
So one is electronic the other one is mechanical... Beautiful
More importantly vtec has valve timing and valve lift. VVT-i only controls timing. Big difference. Honda has always been about power and efficiency, Toyota efficiency and longevity.
@@surfside75 Then compare it with the real thing the VVTL-i
Dorothea Well
music name?
Rich Brian - History
@@JCMediaYT ty
Vvti always
Second vtech
VVTL-I sir look it up
thanks for the suggestion, will definitely consider it for a video!
Great video but take the background music out you can barely understand you just my opinion bro
yup, made the mistake of using songs with lyrics. that's why I now use instrumental songs instead. thanks for the feedback though 👍
@@JCMediaYT anytime bro appreciate what you do !
VTEC KICK IN YO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vvti Toyota ❤
Name of that game please!!
if you're asking about the game at the end, it's Forza Horizon 3
No offense, but my friend is Asian as well and he sound exactly like you in your music. Idk why, but he's really hit or miss. Sounds very monotone and not the best bars, but sometimes he comes thru with some good bars. You should really look into switching your tone throughout the song so it doesn't bore people. It's uncommon for songs to be good using monotone, but it happens sometimes. Usually with established artists tho, unless thats their main style and blew up off that. Again that's uncommon.
Good Video tho!
PS The song is kind of distracting me from the actual info your trying to give. I have to rewind it a lot because I'm trying to hear about Variable Valve Timing, not your song bro. I understand if your just trying to get yourself out there, but take what I said into consideration please.
the song artist you're criticizing is literally Rich Brian... might want to look him up...
If you want to talk about a Honda Car you may not know about I think you should look into the Honda S800. It was the first sub liter car to break the 100 MPH barrier, and there are a few fun points of interest of the car and engine.
hm, i just did some research on it and you do have a fair point. thanks for the suggestion! :)
Damm I lowkey like the sound of vtec more
same here man
that rich brian xD
Nic vido
Mom was about to have a heart attack when son was driving the Supra. Also the torque doesn't scare me at all...
I could barely hear or grasp anything you said
👏👏👏👏🖤
I Love VTEC!! Probably Because I Drive A Civic😂👍
lol, they're great cars anyways. Cheap and super reliable
toyota 4k is the best of engine...
@@tokmoltv6257 Disagreee The Best Engine Toyota Ever Is The 5K And 4AGE
In My Opinion The Best Engine In The World Is
Honda B18C
Honda K20A
Nissan RB26DETT
Mitsubishi 4G63
And The Mazda 13B-REW
@@chokycoki17 my favorite is 1GR-FE and 3UR-FBE. I'm more into SUVs
@@CarRevvedGaming agreed👍🏻 i like reliable engine
Whats with the dumb music in the background ?
no idea what my 14 year old self was thinking either to be honest... way too loud and distracting
Variable valve timing/VVT (Vtec, Mivec, VVTi)mekanisme kerjanya adalah meningkatkan durasi overlap serta meningkatkan langkah hisap menjadi retard.
fungsi utamanya untuk mengurangi emisi, dengan meningkatnya durasi overlap, backpressure gas buang masuk ke ruang bakar lebih banyak sehingga meningkatkan suhu dan mempercepat titik bakar bbm/fuel.
pada mesin 4silinder, desain header knalpot versi pabrikan konfigurasi umumnya 4-1 dengan percabangan pendek, ini membuat tekanannya ruang bakar terlalu padat di rpm rendah yang membebani kerja mesin dirpm menengah-atas. saat VVT berkerja, durasi langkah hisap menjadi retard ini bisa mengurangi beban mesin di rpm menengah-atas. yang kita rasakan seperti ada peningkatan tenaga atau seperti sensasi mesin turbo.
kurang lebihnya begitu bro...cmiiw
iya bener kok bro 😁👍
z@2
Hondas are better than toyota plus honda was the first car brand that perfected the valve timing.. go honda
As a lifelong honda fanboy, both are cool.
But can hondas keep up wit a supra 😂😂
Ken Worth nah toyota corolla S beats any honda
@@damianvlogs1235 you must be dreaming lol
Ur telling me that the stock 2JZ-GTE that comes with 300+ hp stock and with stock internals that can handle 3x the power it comes with can get beat by a car made by Honda during that time period. The NEW Honda type R might be a little faster not sure but with 1000$ on a tune and turbo will gap the shit out of the type R also keep in mind the 2JZ is like 20+ years older. Even tho honda perfected the v-tec and vvt-i first, Toyota made it better
Not much of a video , floor it lady screams the end .
VTEC KİCKED İN vvti 💪VTEC💪
Badly explained
okay but why?
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