Examining a Baltic Snaplock from the 1670s | Antique Muzzleloader Overview and Discussion
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The swamped octagon barrel has eight-groove rifling, blade and notch sights, and a short bent tang. The distinctive lock has a pivoting pan cover, "M-R-K-" signed at the center, floral engraving, external full-cock sear, and "1678" ahead of a lion mask at the tail. The furniture is mainly sheet iron aside from the heavier sweeping trigger guard. The side plate is in the shape of a lion. The cheek has "MRK" in raised relief carving, and an "TN/254" inventory marking is on the left side of the butt. Provenance: The Henk L. Visser Collection; The Collection of Joe M. Wanenmacher Jr
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It was often fired from between the knees, a little bit like silhuett shooters do with magnum handguns. Most rifles from the period here in Sweden had these very short butt stocks.
That's fascinating! Thank you for sharing.
Who knew? Thanks!
Between the knees, how? Not the elbows you mean?
@@PEDRELVIS No you lay on the back and shoot with the gun between the knees. Capercallie was a common bird to hunt with a smaller caliber rifle. Big game was uncommon, but shot at very close range. Almost all hunting was done with a Spitz type dog that will bark and make the animal stand still in one spot.
@@CandidZulu Oh right, never thought that way, nice.
Although there are Baltic designs that are meant to be shoulder fired, this example along with a few others are meant to be rested on the cheek. Much like the Portuguese arquebus and the Japanese teppos
Ah, super interesting! Thank you!!
@@ILoveMuzzleloading At time soldier still using armatures, not appropriated for shoulder fire rifle.
What a gorgeous Sardinian lock rifle!
Man that's nice.
Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.
The stock is designed to rest against the cheek. German wheellock jaegers of the same period also use cheek stocks and they were apparently effective enough that they coexisted with shoulder stocks long after their invention. People say they're more maneuverable because you'd theoretically be able to face your body forward and turn your head to shoot 180 degrees behind you. The stock is also carved so your cheek fits perfectly to align the sights with your eyes as you bring it up.
Thank you!
It helps a lot to build up some tension, pulling backward with the right hand and pushing forward with the left.
What a nice treat for Sunday afternoon Ethan. Thank you.
My pleasure!
These earlier 16th and 17th and early early 18th century firearms are most definitely my favorite
They are some of the best!
Thank you Ethan. Well presented and honest about what you don’t know. I learned much about the this small bore rifle. A pity that the lock internals were not shown though but it may have been better not to disturb them.
If that firearm was meant to be fired from the waist, why a rear sight?
Maybe meant to be fired from a rest such as over a fort wall?
I like your idea of a l-o-o-o-n-g barreled pistol.
Oh yeah, fortified wall sounds like a good spot.
Beautiful gun
This is a very nice Swedish snaphaunce smallbore rifle for small game hunting. This rifle is from the golden age of swedish snaphaunce rifles that was about 1550-1730. It ended when this particular style of weapons got out of style among swedish professional, city based gunsmiths in favour for the french style flintlock rifle. This kind of snaphaunce rifles was produced in the north of Sweden well into the 19th c.
It is meant to be shoot from the cheek only and since it is such small bore the recoil is very mild. They mostly shot static game like birds with these guns. They can also be rested on the knees lying down.
Awesome video Ethan! Thanks very much for bringing it to us.
Thank you kindly!
It's a cheek rifle. Like the CP33 Kel -Tec pistol.
Thanks Larry!!
I am not sure how I missed this video.
I really love the differing mechanisms designed prior or over the 17thc to find the best possible way to use flint as a ignitiion source.
I really would like to be able to peak inside the lock and see how the gunsmith has fashioned a lock which looks to have a lug portrudes from the lockplate once the the cock is in fire position and then lock it in place.
Fantastic thank you
Great video and what a wonderful firearm
This early design is a hold over maker from matchlock days. Most of those style guns were cheek weld guns prior to the use of the shoulder stock.
Thanks for the feedback!
FYI this type of caliber or culebrin rifle musket is meant to be brace against the chest. It's because of breast plate or cuiras being worn, and probably while on horseback also.
Fired from the cheek.
@@johnfisk811 . In my youth I watched this Soviet documentary from the Imperial War Museum, in which they demonstrated that it was not braced against the shoulder, but the cheek as you suggest. Yet also while on horseback and wearing a breastplate, braced on a device much like a Lance rest. Thus the horseman could fire it while holding the reins. The film dates back to 1979 or earlier probably.
Im thinking its a "Scheutzen" like competition rifle. If you watch bench rested competion holds, it explains the butt stock.
That'd be fun.
That it very interesting design
Thank you Snapper, I thought so too.
Ethan, that's a really fine snaphuance rifle. Contrary to your supposition, I think the patchbox latch may just be a straight spring that is driven into the lid and then the notch is filed in. I also noticed that the lock has a bar that will stick out above the little leg on the cock that will act as a half cock "safety". Very similar to a dog lock in operation. Although I have sometimes disagreed with the occasional observation, I have really enjoyed what you care to show. Please keep it up.
Thank you, I appreciate your insight and your critique! It helps me do better. Have a great weekend!
So very cool! Such history! Is it possible it used a "shooting stick" to rest on? I just think of 17th century prints showing people firing these. Thanks for sharing!
Musket forks can be used with any long firearm, but aren't necessarily always used. Lighter firearms of the period (calivers, carbines etc.) can be shouldered just as easily as later (mid 17th c. onwards) Muskets could. But the earlier ones (1570's-1650's) are rather bulky and comparatively heavier, hence the musket fork's use.
There are quite a lot of wheellock muskets that also have a remarkably short buttstock, but weren't used with a musket fork. But rather put up to the cheek and apparently just fired there, the recoil only really being held by the users arms. These can occasionally be seen used for hunting from horseback, on period paintings.
(Although they -probably- did not serve a military purpose half as much as the carbines and long pistols at the time.)
Maybe for use on horse by dragoons?
That cracked, repaired, maybe shotend stock maybe the solution to a long ago head stoved in head mystery? and the custom Short Stock we see now! I'd wager the tail bent is a nail in a Hole used in place of a long ago removed tail inlet and pined into the original wrist. The band at the ramrod entry looks like a later repair with repaired damages on two sides. The later repairing smith was NOT the craftsman the Builder was, but he got her back in action! I Bet she has Stories to Tell. Just immagine the generations who prized this for Food And Protection, some times protection from becoming food.
Great notes Dave! It'd be wonderful to talk to this thing and learn something!
Maybe its designed to be fired by heavily armored horse troops?
Good idea!