I don't have a commission to build another one, but next time I'm with the Captain I can do an over-view like on our target rifle case. The instructions are in AJ Hammler's CW Woodworking Vol. 1. It's pretty simple to do. I'd guess the tricky part would be the breadboard conversion of the lid and adding the half mortise lock. If I do get an order for one, I'll certainly do a complete build video on it. Thanks so much for watching.
Would the originals be sanded smooth (inside and/or outside of box)? I would think they may just be more rough lumber as speed and cost was the point. They were not making furniture like we are but boxes to ship stuff. Just curious how the originals were.
I wish I could say for sure but I haven't had the fortune to be in the presence of an original. Your line of thinking is on the mark. In the original photos I've seen, they don't look too rough. I doubt they would have been sanded but I would reasonably bet you'd find some coarse hand plane marks on the outside. A big reason to sand reproduction boxes like these is to actually remove the modern planer marks from the sawmills. Great question.
@@Harrlond More than likely not. Pasta didn't really become a household food in the United States until the influx of Italian immigrants in the late 19th century, after the war. Plus, cooking wasn't really considered 'men's work' at the time (gender roles being what they are) and probably didn't have the culinary knowledge to make true pasta. They did mash up hardtack, mix it with water, and fry up rudimentary dumplings, but that was about as far as they'd go.
I do have a complete Stanley 45 as a matter of fact. I love that thing. I use a specialty tongue and groove plane from Lie-Nielson which is patterned off an old Stanley...just can't remember the number off hand. I do have a couple of wooden tongue and groove planes, and an old wooden plow plane I used for years for t/g work. I don't have a "push me/pull you" plane though. One of those would be great. It's a t/g plane combined into one wooden body.
Thanks again! I usually only sell items to people in our unit for family prices. That's usually materials plus consumables maybe a bit for labor. I've even done barter. Something like this would be about $80-90. Custom features, spot prices of wood, or more hardcore construction generally costs more. Each piece is custom built to the person's wants and budget.
Wouldnt eyeballed but not perfect nail holes look more authentic for a box that was essentially a disposable item these would have been hand nailed by a craftsman working quickly so the average woodworker working carefully would be about right if the holes are too good it starts to look like its made by a machine I remember something about that for the stupid film maker prop making lesson I had to take in college as an elective
Probably, true. It also reminds me of the episode of Parks and Rec when Ron Swanson was destroying some chairs he made for Tom's bistro because they looked "machine made."
It really comes down to personal preference since the handles would have been added in the field. You bring up the good point that if you want to put handles on your box, take some time and see what works best for you.
Hah, someone should make an 1862 cooking show. Imagine for a minute. Dirty, hairy, smelly, sweaty soldiers teaching how to make hard tack edible and salt pork not-so-salty pork
Can you do a vid for ammo box? They are different.
We will have a video out in the future on how to make an ammo box. Thanks for the recommendation.
I saw your Captain with one of these converted into a desk. Can you do a video on that conversion?
I don't have a commission to build another one, but next time I'm with the Captain I can do an over-view like on our target rifle case. The instructions are in AJ Hammler's CW Woodworking Vol. 1. It's pretty simple to do. I'd guess the tricky part would be the breadboard conversion of the lid and adding the half mortise lock. If I do get an order for one, I'll certainly do a complete build video on it. Thanks so much for watching.
Is there a place for plans or materials needed. On paper or download?
What nail from Treemont? 8D-10D. Common nail? Will be making into a cooler.
What is the height of the box?
Would the originals be sanded smooth (inside and/or outside of box)? I would think they may just be more rough lumber as speed and cost was the point. They were not making furniture like we are but boxes to ship stuff. Just curious how the originals were.
I wish I could say for sure but I haven't had the fortune to be in the presence of an original. Your line of thinking is on the mark. In the original photos I've seen, they don't look too rough. I doubt they would have been sanded but I would reasonably bet you'd find some coarse hand plane marks on the outside. A big reason to sand reproduction boxes like these is to actually remove the modern planer marks from the sawmills. Great question.
How is the hardtack stored in these boxes? wrapped in cloth or paper?
As far as I know, they were simply packed on edge, 50 lbs. to the box and shipped with no other wrapping. Great question.
@@CompanyD2ndUSSS Follow up question, with all the flour and water around camp, was pasta ever something on the menu?
@@Harrlond More than likely not. Pasta didn't really become a household food in the United States until the influx of Italian immigrants in the late 19th century, after the war. Plus, cooking wasn't really considered 'men's work' at the time (gender roles being what they are) and probably didn't have the culinary knowledge to make true pasta. They did mash up hardtack, mix it with water, and fry up rudimentary dumplings, but that was about as far as they'd go.
Great Video! When will you do the sewing the shelter half one?
Thanks for the reminder! I guess, I just have to stop being lazy and order my fabric.
Do you make hardtack boxes to order?
Do you also use vintage tools for tongue and groove like the Stanley 48?
I do have a complete Stanley 45 as a matter of fact. I love that thing. I use a specialty tongue and groove plane from Lie-Nielson which is patterned off an old Stanley...just can't remember the number off hand. I do have a couple of wooden tongue and groove planes, and an old wooden plow plane I used for years for t/g work. I don't have a "push me/pull you" plane though. One of those would be great. It's a t/g plane combined into one wooden body.
Great video 1st Sergeant! How much do you commonly sell these boxes for?
Thanks again! I usually only sell items to people in our unit for family prices. That's usually materials plus consumables maybe a bit for labor. I've even done barter. Something like this would be about $80-90. Custom features, spot prices of wood, or more hardcore construction generally costs more. Each piece is custom built to the person's wants and budget.
Have you thought about making one of these into a cooler?
It has crossed my mind but not yet, still rocking my farb cooler.
Nice job! But I have one question:
Is that bigger than a bread box?
do you make your own hardtack? if so can you make a video on that?
The Civil War Digital Digest has a great and easy video with their recipe
So why worry about nails for box if walking is going to cover them up?
Wouldnt eyeballed but not perfect nail holes look more authentic for a box that was essentially a disposable item these would have been hand nailed by a craftsman working quickly so the average woodworker working carefully would be about right if the holes are too good it starts to look like its made by a machine
I remember something about that for the stupid film maker prop making lesson I had to take in college as an elective
Probably, true. It also reminds me of the episode of Parks and Rec when Ron Swanson was destroying some chairs he made for Tom's bistro because they looked "machine made."
Don't you think the rope handles should have been installed higher on the box. I know their not standard but it would seem more natural.
It really comes down to personal preference since the handles would have been added in the field. You bring up the good point that if you want to put handles on your box, take some time and see what works best for you.
Fantastic!
Thanks!
Hah, someone should make an 1862 cooking show. Imagine for a minute. Dirty, hairy, smelly, sweaty soldiers teaching how to make hard tack edible and salt pork not-so-salty pork
That would be fantastic!
The civil war digital digest here on RUclips has something quite similar. I'd recommend checking that out
Less talking get to the directions for building the box!
Too many carbs. I guess you Yankees didnt do the Keto Diet ....