@StanTheMan again... i don't like kings move either but still not cheating if it is within the rules. Not arguing anything except for calling it cheating. It is unfair but again not cheating. You can even see in the match of Zurab and Ron bath when Ron went under, they called him up plenty of times. I guess he Michael didn't go under the table seeing they did not call him up. And almost can't be pinned? Genadi combeback after ermes could defeat it and Devon, Ceplenkov, and The Goat John could beat it so it is very pinnable
@StanTheMan well i don't really think the kings move Michael is using is not that ugly nowadays and not under the table anymore compared to the WAL rules. Kott and east vs west rules are pretty good though. But the influence he gave is really bad😂😂You should see one of our states puller turning from a great hook player to total kings mover(really ugly). And to finalize it, i was just commenting on the 'cheating' part
21:10. MMT looks like he is about to have a heart attack at the table. Super impressed by Revaz. It takes some serious patience to deal with a guy who is hiding under the table and looking to win on fouls.
Well he had pretty bad covid about a year ago, with the help of his GP he was able to stay off of a hospital, but he said he had pretty bad pneumonia and he felt breathless for like a couple weeks. So it is likely that his cardio is not where it used to be.
Cardio only wins out for you if you can outlast the opponent. It seems in these matches that Revaz was stronger than MMT expected and that might've made Mike work too much in the positioning for his cardio to be useful - along with what everybody else is saying ofc. Though, I'd still say it was very impressive; I doubt very many could stand in that Kingsmove for as long as he did in these matches.
love the coverage, love the battles..... just sat here at home wondering why this isn't on regular tv , so many people are missing out .. thank you so much.. the only good thing about Covid was me discovering arm wrestling ! LOVE IT !!!
They won't televise it because arm wrestling makes for terrible television. 99% of the match is them either gripping up, arguing, putting on straps, fouls, etc etc. Only 1% is them actually armwrestling. It's way too boring for TV, only serious armwrestling fans would stay tuned in.
@@DeepPocketsEnt just saw the match Matt Mask vs Prudnik and the best part was the gripping up, arguing, putting on straps, fouls... The UFC was not on TV in the beginning lets hope this goes the same way... LOVE IT !
Was great seeing Michael having a good time regardless..congratulations to Revas..very strong.. Can’t wait to see what’s next for Michael..a bloody win I’m hoping…lol.
All while looking soft compared to every other arm wrestler there, while abusing his bone lock in his elbow, while subtly gloating and trying to act like a big shot, all that straight into a loss against someone who is essentially a rookie, get wrecked.
It was a massive elbow foul in losing position by revaz in round 5 when michael flash pressed him, that should have been a win for mike. That's why replay are needed.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Michael did not elbow foul until after the hands were apart as seen in the footage. You do have to slow it down frame by frame which is why the refs did not catch it. The hands at 26:23 are physically apart while Mike's elbow is firmly on the pad. That doesn't even matter since Revaz should've already lost before that as he pulled his elbow backwards off the pad PRIOR to the slip. Revaz fouls twice while in a losing position before Mike fouls once.
I hate Todd, and I'm an American. I hate the kings love BS he pulls when he knows he can't win standing up at the table. And for your other commenters, John is, and will always be the GOAT. Sorry, not sorry
Maybe others but im american and cant stand micheal todd. Kings crutch todd. Who enjoys someone who resorts to the same broken move every match? Not all americans like him. I would argue a lot of americans prefer devon larrett over micheal todd.
I don't understand the hate against Mike, this is not the WAL, he pulled within the rules keeping his shoulder not below the elbow in a loosing position. He also flashed pin Revaz and wasn't even called.
It's not arm to arm power because he has a bone lock, so he uses that to make him harder to pin. It's cheating. People like Krasi arm wrestle like men.
His arm was literally at a negative angle for most of rounds four and five. He was also extremely lucky to get a reset for an early start in round four. Revaz caught him and smashed him
At one point I screamed from the crowd "Gena! The riser! Revaz needs to climb!" And Genadi nodded and started screaming in Georgian to Revaz. Was one of the coolest moments in my life
This is why a crowd is so important in sports. They really can influence matches. I really hope in future armwrestling events can sell out crowds (with screens so everyone can see etc). It would be great for the sport.
Best comment yet I think 💯 great match and both guys could have won!!! A lot going on in this one for sure!!! 🤷 Mike really needed that win but it is what it is I guess!!! 👌
Wow that was awesome, MT did great with a super tough Revaz...Revaz has been so impressive in WAF over the years, no slouch, he's a beast. MT does not deserve critism for this performance
Michael Todd if you're reading this just know that you're such a disgrace for this sport. You're making it ugly by playing the King's move all the time. It's like you do anything for a win. You're using all the ugly tactics to just win a match.
Playback speed to 0.25x and play at 26:22. You can watch Revaz pull his entire arm off the pad while in a losing position - Mike wins the match here. Understandable to miss this though, it happened very quickly and I had to watch it on replay, but it is clear in slow motion.
To me it looks like MT got very close to pinning him but they slipped and when MT's down pressure suddenly stopped after they came apart Revaz's elbow jumped up, after the slip.
@@Mindereak I agree I don't actually think it pinned but I need to see another camera angle. Also in full speed thats a hard call for the refs but I think they did a good job they both saw the elbow fouls. I love all the camera angles but they don't seem to be used properly. A side on shot is PERFECT for ready go but for replays seeing side on or pad cameras would be awesome. Rather than randomly switching between mid round.
Да ты что, чистая? Плечо Реваза было за серединой стола, может тогда можно просто лечь на стол? Что касается Майкла всё было по правилам, его плечо не было ниже стола, этим всё сказано. Незаслуженная победа с борьбой на столе пробитой кистью, что ещё хуже, чем под столом
@@vegetosaiyan6046 ya sure he is, only reason he was ever relevant was bc kings move. He’s a weak arm wrestler. Look at what everybody says who faces him he’s not strong. His bone just locks in place. He’s a very very weak man in the sport
He needs to train harder, and step back from his ego for a minute, wasting time arm wrestling people who have no clue what theyre doing all day, as if that is "training"
even though MT lost - this is the best he's looked in a while........I think the next MT match is going to be even better - infact I think he's going to win his next match........this was the best match of the event in my opinion........great job MT/Revaz - Engin - good job as well ............watch people you heard it here - MT is going to win his next match....if you slow down the 5th round - MT elbow did not come up until after he pinned Revaz
@@r.a.fiallos234 not easy but his easiest in a while.. he's only been back to pulling for a few months. I think it's hard to say this is the best he's looked in a while for that reason alone.
This match looks close. Michael actually got lucky in round 4th with that flash press got caught. But he looks phenomenal in 1st round, he stonewalled Revaz in 1st round.
Mike was relaxed, dry, and not winded in the break after the first round victory. By the time the second match started, he was gassed, sucking wind, and sweating profusely.
That's what i dont like about him... his huge ego. It's so cringe cause so obvious it's all ego. He's good, he strong, he could just live with what he have and be happy about it but he need to prove something so bad. I don't mind the kings move it you actually do something... he just wait there. Lot's of other people use it and don't just wait under the table with the arm fully extended.
@@Gooboobananas Historically Mike has beaten Dave Chaffee. I mean we remember 2014 and 2019? Mike took his riser and pronation, and then that was it for Dave. Give both a watch if you haven't already. Mike is a really bad matchup for Dave and most people in the community know that. Dave doesn't have the tools and adaptability to deal with Mike's kings move. I don't see this result changing
The fact that the refs didn't care about revaz shoulder going further than center line is hella suspicious, then not ''seeing'' the flash pin...everytime revaz got a stable flop position was because the pushed his shoulder further than what's legal imo
And also Engin coming to warn michael about the position, but MMT never dipped to a negative. He went sideways, but his shoulder was always above the table. They did NOT want him to win.
@@codyschale263 If you are going to be so openly against an athlete, don't call him in. People love seeing Michael lose, but nobody wants to see rigged matches.
After I see this, I think Larratt victory over Michael Todd means nothing and I hope he doesn't get injury at the match of Levan Still great match we have here between Todd and Revas
@@PwnyDwn Michael todd de baixo da mesa com o braço totalmente esticado é luta de braço pra você?? Responda sinceramente. É horrível de se ver e em nada se parece com luta de braço. Isso será abolido das regras pode acreditar. Luta de braço é de pé com braços flexionados se não puder fazer isso pratique outro esporte. Bye Michael "crybigbaby" Todd
Guys Levan actually had some struggle against Revaz Lutidze back in 2018 ! he was way stronger once, if he comes back he will quickly climb genadi and up towards levans strength area again
I think he should do what he's good at instead of succumb to the expectations of random people. I hate that move... but it's his move. No matter how much hate you get, it's legal and it wins him games. He needs to go back to his roots.
Just watching the start of the 2nd match (after strap applied) and neither ref pays attention to how far Revaz's shoulders are turned off square to table. He's literally already 45 degrees turned toward his side, whereas Mike was fairly square. No fault of Revaz's because the refs didn't square him up.
Engin watch the match again Michael's shoulder is always above the table it never went below ! I think that this was a great match and I don't think we should take anything away from the way it is. Let me know what do you think? Oh and Good Job for setting up this amazing event .Keep up the wonderful work!! You are the best!
Different rules here buddy. Doesn't matter if his shoulder wasn't under the table. Mike's upper arm was in a declining position so it should have been a foul.
It looked like Revaz’s shoulder passed the “centerline” between the pegs many times during the match. This is a foul according to WAF rule 8.1.2. But perhaps the rules are different for East vs West?
Talking of Rules, Engin shouldn’t be allowed to harass opponents during the break. It’s up to the ref to enforce the rules. Engin should have appealed to the referee if he believed there was a foul. Michael took it well though. They are both good sports.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 I think the rule is, your shoulder can go under the table but only in an attacking position, otherwise it must stay above the table. Engin should have had a word with the ref about it. If everyone piled in on the competitors every time we didn’t like or agree with something, the stage would be a free-for-all. Lol.
Опыт vs молодость. Просмотрел всю серию. Ребята как из Америки так и с Грузии великолепны. Болел за Мишу) Его поражение ярче, чем у многих других победы. Всем крепкого здоровья, с большой любовью из России.
Really glad to see Mike getting lower than he has been in the past number of years (whilst remaining within the rules as far as the angle of the humerus bone goes). The past few years he has been pretty self conscious about it and tried to stay way above the table like he did at the start of this match, which wasn't even a king's move, it's just been open-arm toprolling, and it's not been as effective for him (even though it worked great at the start of this match but still). Michael is funny as hell on stage, super entertaining. Great match. Commentary was awesome too. At some points I think his humerus may have been at most, flat, which isn't a down-angle, which is a problem in the rules... but it's hard to tell with the camera angle and stuff and the refs didn't call anything.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 - At most I saw it being flat, even in Engin's video I don't know... maybe slight decline it's hard to tell with his muscles and the camera angles. Either way it wasn't enough for the refs to feel the need to call it. Elbow off the pad? are you including all 3 points of the elbow? and remembering that Michael's elbow is dang huge. Edit: Oh I saw your other comment. I don't think that was decline, and yea elbow fouls happen a lot without getting called, under all leagues.
Can't stop commenting on this one 😂 great match bye both guys!!! But the thumbnail for this one is funny compared to the rest of the videos posted lol 😆 no coincidence for sure 🤷
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 "biased" You every reflect on yourself? You're under EVERY damn comment hating on Mike and the KM and you're talking about bias? Ridiculous
@@michaelcook6483 its normal that referees went to the european side, it will be always that way in this kind of events. Its was an incredible match and spectacle.
Kind of thankful that Michales injury made him disappear from the stage, these guys have better things to do then having these "fights" with Michael Todd, like actual matches where they test their strength.
I just dont understand. Todds arm is fully extended. He cant straighten his arm any more. How is that a good position for him against somebody that does a tricep press on a regular basis.
@@michaelcook6483 what are you on my friend? I hate comments like you. this whole full match was full of "todd's" mistakes, he literally opened his hand completely and also faced some situations where his shoulder was too much lowered. 15:07 wth is this? maybe another sport. Engin clearly said that with this king, arm wrestlers can do it but only in a winning position and not when losing, todd agrees with these rules, but he did it anyway on losing position only losing.... and the judges ignored this, this is unprofessional actually part of the judge. Todd didn't even have to make it to the 5th round. Winning position means your hand is on his side of the table, so you win "HAND, HAND!" not your fu**ng shoulder...he's literally zero without his " kings move" not even top 15. kings move? let him do it, the it's is a tactic, there is nothing wrong with that, but what he does in this video is clearly cheating, not kings move and he did it the whole match, it should have been be a 3-1 victory for Revaz
@@georgepoly4842 Engin said that if negative humerus would have counted correctly with Todd, the thing him and Devon do it all the time, the match should have gone to Lutidze 3-1 and in his mind Revaz was the one who got things made harder, Engin said Todd did that thing countless ,like 10 times, and should be foul every time. Also he explained the rules to Todd before the match. This rule should be counted all the time, it is not only about shoulders in kingsmove, their hands dont go straight and they are exploiting it to make others tired and it should not be allowed thus you need to watch the humerus also, sounds logical to me.
@@Gennaadi lol dawg it sound like excuses to me, Gennady jus beat him wit no complaints & made it look easier, Devon 6-0 that kings move, Michael Todd was comin off losses goin into this match I don’t understand what yall scared of, revaz hung on by the thread of his teeth, if it’s east vs west than rules are gonna have to change to accommodate both sides if mans wasn’t strong enough jus say that
@@xIIViSiiONZzIIHD So taking advantage of your disability as your arm cant go straighter sounds like an excuse to you, well good to know and thanks for sharing it, I disagree. Someone should have called them out immediately when they started doing that BS.
todd is the most entertaining armwrestler for me. i love to see his matches . my absolute fav match is vs devon , back in the arm wars days . if you dont know it you have to watch it !
Чувак,ты гонишь. Нормальная борьба. Первый раунд Тодд отлично взял. Чем тебе не нравится. А вот как раз таки всё остальное уже не борьба со стороны Латидзе. Залезть на стол и всем тело навалиться на руку. Да это бред.
@@Будьтездоровы-ш4ъ А я вижу ты обиделся ) Хотя ничего плохого я тебе не сказал. Слабый ты,слабохарактерный. А с воспитанием у меня всё в порядке. Просто выразил свою мысль именно в такой форме. Для того чтобы ты сразу понял о том что не надо больше в коментах писать такие глупости. Но ты не понял,ты просто обиделся.
Rewatching and 15 mins into this video already, I can't imagine the commentators are writing off revaz and been talking so much in favour of Todd despite Todd been sweating out his butt both literally and figuratively from round 2 get go while revaz is fresh and chilling. What a Total bias commentary!
Why MT is always in defend mode and hoping the opponent make fault? i know recently 2 times he fight on east vs west with the same strategy.... and all are lost
Because he has a bone lock in his arm, so he can sit there, preventing the pin using minimal effort, trying to get the other guy tired so that he can actually stand a chance at pinning him.
thanks for the info, yes it is legal.. but as personal an arms wrestling's fighter , it is no manly, no gentle and no elegant at all, i already doubting MT just a long time when he always show that and not overhelming power like others top arms wrestlers
I love arm wrestling, but watching Michael do this move every time is not even arm wrestling anymore. The king's move is a good asset, but it's getting out of control to use it in EVERY round, for the whole career, without really trying to arm wrestle in a different, more appealing way.
I love you Engin but, Revaz's shoulder crossed the center line multiple times and nobody said anything! You can't argue with a competitor in between rounds! That was not a good look brother. Keep bringing us these great cards champ.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Revaz's shoulder crossed the center line at least 4 times but, that's okay! Revaz lifted his elbow off the pad 10 times in the straps and in the middle of refs grip too. Again, it's ok! Then he intentionally loosened the strap multiple times! Then he took 2 to 3 minute breathers after committing a foul 3 times. Not in between rounds either. If a foul is committed, then they get right back to pulling! Not give the fat outta shape guy more time to recover! So he gets away with all this cuz he's Georgian but, God forbid MMTs angle wasn't perfect after being screwed over 20 times in one damn match. MMT then flash pinned Revaz in the 5th round in accordance to Engin's rules but, again it didn't count and they gave Revaz another opportunity to rest. If you're gonna nit pick the rules, then do it to both competitors. Not just the one you don't want to win!
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 I've placed 4 bets with ppl on here already! They also gave me shut out stakes on all 4 wagers. If you wanna give me shut out stakes I'll place a wager with you too.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Like you've pointed out a million times this ain't the WAL. Also when your shoulder comes across after you have full control and are in the middle of pinning your opponent, it ain't the same as crossing the center to use that leverage to get the control needed to pin your opponent. You'll just come up with any pathetic excuse you can think of against any North American puller! What happened to your confidence in Levan? I said I'll put $500 on Devon! It's shut out stakes and I've now placed 5 different wagers supporting Devon with ppl on here that have agreed to the shut out stakes without hesitation. I guess you ain't so confident in Levan after all. Devon 'No Limits' Larratt will beat Levan in an ugly war of attrition! So put up or shut up!
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 You obviously ain't smart enough to read and understand my most recent comment on the subject. Stop talking, making yourself look uneducated and illiterate.
29:35 Revas thinking, " How is this arm wrestling?"
lol
It wasnt. That bearded geezer wasnt eaven close.
true story
Revas thinking, "I came here for arm wrestling, not seesaw."
It looked like..Tod was falling from cliff..revas was trying to save him..
Todd’s losing streak was untoppable!
ROFL !
@@giulio_yt651 And under the table.
funny to see internet losers get happy when they see others that actually try to achieve something fail
Same like barbosa 😂
@@mixmixture7049 even worse than him
Why am I not surprised this is nearly 35 minutes long 😂 seems like Mike is back to his awkward best
Mike definitely prolonged this fight and it cost him…
@StanTheMan +
@StanTheMan i don't like the king's move but how is it cheating when the rules allow it?
@StanTheMan again... i don't like kings move either but still not cheating if it is within the rules. Not arguing anything except for calling it cheating. It is unfair but again not cheating. You can even see in the match of Zurab and Ron bath when Ron went under, they called him up plenty of times. I guess he Michael didn't go under the table seeing they did not call him up. And almost can't be pinned? Genadi combeback after ermes could defeat it and Devon, Ceplenkov, and The Goat John could beat it so it is very pinnable
@StanTheMan well i don't really think the kings move Michael is using is not that ugly nowadays and not under the table anymore compared to the WAL rules. Kott and east vs west rules are pretty good though. But the influence he gave is really bad😂😂You should see one of our states puller turning from a great hook player to total kings mover(really ugly). And to finalize it, i was just commenting on the 'cheating' part
Ironically. The only round Michael won was when he “wasn’t” in the kings move.
Thanks for spoiler, bro
@@pablol6211 who reads the comments before watching the vid, seriously Xd
@@pablol6211 Why are you reading the comments before the video? Lol, that’s your fault
"the shits move" I hate when those idiots do that fucking movement 😤
@@pablol6211 It's the comment section, of course we're going to talk about the match lol
21:10. MMT looks like he is about to have a heart attack at the table. Super impressed by Revaz. It takes some serious patience to deal with a guy who is hiding under the table and looking to win on fouls.
Heart attack _under_ the table...
😂😂😂😂
Agreed.
Thanks for saving 33 min for me
@@paquirriwifi6812 Monsters really exist! when I have breakfast I look under the table, maybe Michael Todd is right there.
It seems like Mike is trying not to lose instead of trying to win.
Seems your judgement is flawed.
Spot on. It's like he anticipates going straight into a bone lock every fucking time.
Devon does the same
Is like Devon only defend, King move is the worst thing I see in armw
I dunno. After COVID Michael was different.
Very surprised that Michael's cardio was a weak point for him. He was huffin and puffin and a sweat shower after 10 mins.
Well he had pretty bad covid about a year ago, with the help of his GP he was able to stay off of a hospital, but he said he had pretty bad pneumonia and he felt breathless for like a couple weeks. So it is likely that his cardio is not where it used to be.
Sweat never shows the cardio burst out*
Cardio only wins out for you if you can outlast the opponent. It seems in these matches that Revaz was stronger than MMT expected and that might've made Mike work too much in the positioning for his cardio to be useful - along with what everybody else is saying ofc. Though, I'd still say it was very impressive; I doubt very many could stand in that Kingsmove for as long as he did in these matches.
Wasn't he huffing and puffing Vs Jerry too
He's almost 50 man
What a match. What awesome brotherhood. So much love and mutual respect. Engin, you made another winner of a tournament. Respect.
MTch? Only one guy entertain us the other is a coward and boring
love the coverage, love the battles..... just sat here at home wondering why this isn't on regular tv , so many people are missing out .. thank you so much.. the only good thing about Covid was me discovering arm wrestling ! LOVE IT !!!
there are no too many world class armwrestlers in America thus no coverage on regular tv
They won't televise it because arm wrestling makes for terrible television. 99% of the match is them either gripping up, arguing, putting on straps, fouls, etc etc. Only 1% is them actually armwrestling. It's way too boring for TV, only serious armwrestling fans would stay tuned in.
Monstermike
Jessventurasucks
@@DeepPocketsEnt just saw the match Matt Mask vs Prudnik and the best part was the gripping up, arguing, putting on straps, fouls... The UFC was not on TV in the beginning lets hope this goes the same way... LOVE IT !
Was great seeing Michael having a good time regardless..congratulations to Revas..very strong..
Can’t wait to see what’s next for Michael..a bloody win I’m hoping…lol.
lol what. he has no arm left, only his scar tissue.
hope that borefest of an armwrestler just retires
Michael "Im in the best shape of my life" todd
Looks like he won to me. Terrible reffing
xD
All while looking soft compared to every other arm wrestler there, while abusing his bone lock in his elbow, while subtly gloating and trying to act like a big shot, all that straight into a loss against someone who is essentially a rookie, get wrecked.
@@someweirdo9129 u calling Revas a rookie 🤣🤣🤣clearly u know nothing about anything zzzz
😂😂
Has Todd ever won a match without going underneath the table? Jesus.
Jesus saves.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 who cares about arm wrestling. Jesus the lord God Almighty saves.
first round dominated it with a hook.
Then he turned back to his kings move and started losing
@@mathieutrenbolonesandwich2397 wasn't a hook
@@justaguyfromreddit Yeah, that was no hook, that was just Michael rising straight up and back.
It was a massive elbow foul in losing position by revaz in round 5 when michael flash pressed him, that should have been a win for mike.
That's why replay are needed.
Definitely
Yepppppp
Exactly
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Michael did not elbow foul until after the hands were apart as seen in the footage. You do have to slow it down frame by frame which is why the refs did not catch it. The hands at 26:23 are physically apart while Mike's elbow is firmly on the pad. That doesn't even matter since Revaz should've already lost before that as he pulled his elbow backwards off the pad PRIOR to the slip. Revaz fouls twice while in a losing position before Mike fouls once.
Sure, don't forget to crawl under the table along with Mike as well.
21:50 Mike says to the judges: "Wait, I didn't have time to get under the table!" 😄
😅
This comment section is filled with American fanboys nobody appreciates Revaz's effort and strength. Massive respect for Revaz, what a monster
I hate Todd, and I'm an American. I hate the kings love BS he pulls when he knows he can't win standing up at the table. And for your other commenters, John is, and will always be the GOAT. Sorry, not sorry
Merica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USA USA USA
He's a lot bigger and younger bro relax lol.
Ok Europe fan boy
Maybe others but im american and cant stand micheal todd. Kings crutch todd. Who enjoys someone who resorts to the same broken move every match? Not all americans like him. I would argue a lot of americans prefer devon larrett over micheal todd.
When both competetors are this cool, noone really loses. Great performance by both, and I love the sportsmanship! Great match!
@Tom best of luck learning to behave civilised, soc.ial Neanthertal
Michael "Hide and Seek Under the Table" Todd
Yea beatle he back home go sleep under the table😂
I don't understand the hate against Mike, this is not the WAL, he pulled within the rules keeping his shoulder not below the elbow in a loosing position. He also flashed pin Revaz and wasn't even called.
It's not arm to arm power because he has a bone lock, so he uses that to make him harder to pin. It's cheating. People like Krasi arm wrestle like men.
@@ElpresadorsBrother mmt was within the rules any other armwrestler can use the same strategy so go cry somewhere els thanx
@@ElpresadorsBrother wow so arm wrestle like man (Krasi) is keep loosing to everyone 3-0 6-0 interesting
100%👍
His arm was literally at a negative angle for most of rounds four and five. He was also extremely lucky to get a reset for an early start in round four. Revaz caught him and smashed him
At one point I screamed from the crowd "Gena! The riser! Revaz needs to climb!" And Genadi nodded and started screaming in Georgian to Revaz.
Was one of the coolest moments in my life
😎✔️
@@PapunaOfficial i don't know, I'll watch the video and see
Proof or didn't happen 👀😂
This is why a crowd is so important in sports. They really can influence matches. I really hope in future armwrestling events can sell out crowds (with screens so everyone can see etc). It would be great for the sport.
Your life is pretty lame if that’s one of the coolest moments.
Thank you for this great lineup Engin. Much appreciated. Most people enjoyed the entire PPV and can't wait for the next one! Genadi vs Larratt??🤞
Devon would absolutely crush Genadi.
Really great match for both guys! Could’ve went either way. Revaz adjusted well and was perfectly patient
Best comment yet I think 💯 great match and both guys could have won!!! A lot going on in this one for sure!!! 🤷 Mike really needed that win but it is what it is I guess!!! 👌
You both are full of crap and fake political correctness. What is grate about watching a queen doing a king's move?
Could have GONE either way, Daryl.
It's still not over yet .
- Michal todd
@@xylo4387 hahahahah 😆
Dude he had a plan 🤷 I don't think it worked!! But he did get screwed round 5 🤬
Dead😂😂
@@orandachildren1051 A truck driver .
Even though it looks like he was legal and following the rules it's still kind of ridiculous to have a completely extended arm and not be pinned
How is this comment at the top without likes or being pinned ? Like the ArmWrestling gods effected the algorithm
It’s called the kings men move for a reason!
@@shadowthagreat 🤣🤣🤣 oh man
It's hard to pin because his opponent's wrist is flopped. Kings move is actually really easy to press through if your wrist integrity stays intact.
@@KevinLuWX it’s not really easy when you have someone who’s perfected it.. and broke his arm several times to do so..
Todd's strongest weapon is his inability to ever be wrong.
Wow that was awesome, MT did great with a super tough Revaz...Revaz has been so impressive in WAF over the years, no slouch, he's a beast. MT does not deserve critism for this performance
Michael Todd if you're reading this just know that you're such a disgrace for this sport. You're making it ugly by playing the King's move all the time. It's like you do anything for a win. You're using all the ugly tactics to just win a match.
Michael deserves to lose every match from now on. This is not armwrestling.
Engin thank you for this great great event!!!
Playback speed to 0.25x and play at 26:22. You can watch Revaz pull his entire arm off the pad while in a losing position - Mike wins the match here. Understandable to miss this though, it happened very quickly and I had to watch it on replay, but it is clear in slow motion.
To me it looks like MT got very close to pinning him but they slipped and when MT's down pressure suddenly stopped after they came apart Revaz's elbow jumped up, after the slip.
@@Mindereak yeah I think so as well 👌
That happened after the slip, boy. John also did elbow fouls, but who cares?
@@Mindereak I agree I don't actually think it pinned but I need to see another camera angle. Also in full speed thats a hard call for the refs but I think they did a good job they both saw the elbow fouls. I love all the camera angles but they don't seem to be used properly. A side on shot is PERFECT for ready go but for replays seeing side on or pad cameras would be awesome. Rather than randomly switching between mid round.
@@Mindereak Yeah but slipp in losing position was a loss at this event.
Thank you, Engin!
Чистая и заслуженный победа 🔥🔥👏,Тодда надо было поднимать под столом,потом посмотрим сможет так держать,думаю давно проиграл бы
Все зарубы с ним превращаются в сидение под столом,судейство тут на высоте,впрочем как и всегда
Самая самая тупая борьба тодда, точнее борьбы нет
Да ты что, чистая? Плечо Реваза было за серединой стола, может тогда можно просто лечь на стол? Что касается Майкла всё было по правилам, его плечо не было ниже стола, этим всё сказано. Незаслуженная победа с борьбой на столе пробитой кистью, что ещё хуже, чем под столом
He beat Michael fair and square. That’s as good as Michael Todd gets right there.
@@Андрей-б3ъ8э nepizdi vasja, sosi u gruzin
Todd hasn't got another level in him..devon and levan and a few others are on another planet 💪🏻
Devon huh
Lmao
You though noone would notice u including Devon lol, Devon will easily lose to every top 8 rn.
@@Abhishek91377 really? how come? who are the top 8 rn? lets see the expert's opinion
@@Abhishek91377 stupid
Тода надо в отдельной номинации выступать. Это не борьба, это ЦИРК!!!!!
Это позор
Каждый раз одно и тоже🤣
Диванные критики, вы сами клоуны 🤣
@@ДИКСОН-у7п 😂
Thanks for the upload
That's a straight elbow if I've ever seen one
that round one was quite emotional for me, so happy to see michael succeeding
Lmao
Michael sucks he was never good hes literally not even strong
@@vegetosaiyan6046 ya sure he is, only reason he was ever relevant was bc kings move. He’s a weak arm wrestler. Look at what everybody says who faces him he’s not strong. His bone just locks in place. He’s a very very weak man in the sport
He didn't win though right?
@@names-mars yea was just talking about how i felt at that moment when I was watching it live
Thumbnail picture looks like a inclined humerus foul to me.
Revaz: I didnt't like Vitaly cause he screamed at the crowd but he himself screamed at 30:16
Everyone finds his weakness now 🥺 monster is no more on his peak
He needs to train harder, and step back from his ego for a minute, wasting time arm wrestling people who have no clue what theyre doing all day, as if that is "training"
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 ah, the magical land of Europe
@@someweirdo9129 true
@@michaelcook6483 he is facing too much of criticism now a days specially for Todd's match
even though MT lost - this is the best he's looked in a while........I think the next MT match is going to be even better - infact I think he's going to win his next match........this was the best match of the event in my opinion........great job MT/Revaz - Engin - good job as well ............watch people you heard it here - MT is going to win his next match....if you slow down the 5th round - MT elbow did not come up until after he pinned Revaz
best he's looked because it's his easiest opponent in a while
@@christophersmith8393 dude, Revaz is NOT an easy opponent.
@@r.a.fiallos234 not easy but his easiest in a while.. he's only been back to pulling for a few months. I think it's hard to say this is the best he's looked in a while for that reason alone.
This match looks close. Michael actually got lucky in round 4th with that flash press got caught. But he looks phenomenal in 1st round, he stonewalled Revaz in 1st round.
If Engin hates the king's move so much, why did he invited MMT ???
Mike was relaxed, dry, and not winded in the break after the first round victory. By the time the second match started, he was gassed, sucking wind, and sweating profusely.
Don't even bother with reading these comments. Same arguments we've all had for the last 5 years. Great fight.
Watching Mike’s theatrics and demeanor changes throughout a match is hilarious, as you see him try to protect his ego.
That's what i dont like about him... his huge ego. It's so cringe cause so obvious it's all ego.
He's good, he strong, he could just live with what he have and be happy about it but he need to prove something so bad.
I don't mind the kings move it you actually do something... he just wait there. Lot's of other people use it and don't just wait under the table with the arm fully extended.
lmao he's trying so hard to seem humble
Really impressive from Mike considering what Revaz just did to Dave Chaffee. Wow!! Solid work 💪
@@Gooboobananas Historically Mike has beaten Dave Chaffee. I mean we remember 2014 and 2019? Mike took his riser and pronation, and then that was it for Dave. Give both a watch if you haven't already.
Mike is a really bad matchup for Dave and most people in the community know that. Dave doesn't have the tools and adaptability to deal with Mike's kings move. I don't see this result changing
The fact that the refs didn't care about revaz shoulder going further than center line is hella suspicious, then not ''seeing'' the flash pin...everytime revaz got a stable flop position was because the pushed his shoulder further than what's legal imo
And also Engin coming to warn michael about the position, but MMT never dipped to a negative. He went sideways, but his shoulder was always above the table. They did NOT want him to win.
@@vladimirgertner3960 Engin is so obviously biased it's hilarious lol. He absolutely hates kings move so of course he wants Todd to lose.
@@codyschale263 If you are going to be so openly against an athlete, don't call him in. People love seeing Michael lose, but nobody wants to see rigged matches.
What makes you believe that it wasn't allowed to have the shoulder past center line?
@@Mindereak because he knows about arm wrestling lol.
That flash pin in round 5 happened too fast for even the refs to see.
After I see this, I think Larratt victory over Michael Todd means nothing and I hope he doesn't get injury at the match of Levan
Still great match we have here between Todd and Revas
You got it. Mike is not what he used to be.
Micheal couldn’t move Devon’s arm
He got injured
He got hurt
@@draktandragon1939 he got murdered
I just don’t understand how a puller who can’t pin his opponent and
Can only win due to fouls calls himself Monster.
@@PwnyDwn Michael todd de baixo da mesa com o braço totalmente esticado é luta de braço pra você?? Responda sinceramente. É horrível de se ver e em nada se parece com luta de braço. Isso será abolido das regras pode acreditar. Luta de braço é de pé com braços flexionados se não puder fazer isso pratique outro esporte. Bye Michael "crybigbaby" Todd
He was monster before he started fracturing his elbow. Something I wish on no one
He's a phony
Nailed it👏
Guys Levan actually had some struggle against Revaz Lutidze back in 2018 ! he was way stronger once, if he comes back he will quickly climb genadi and up towards levans strength area again
Or Levan was much weaker once 😂
@@dondoken1353 lol or that
I love MT but I don’t appreciate his AW style and impression it gives to the sport. Outstretched arm is a loss for me.
Every armwrestler has their own technics and style
I think he should do what he's good at instead of succumb to the expectations of random people. I hate that move... but it's his move. No matter how much hate you get, it's legal and it wins him games. He needs to go back to his roots.
He can´t armwrestle!!
Petition they change the rules then lol
14:44 At this point, when Michael's arm is FULLY extended, it should be at the very least, a foul; if not a pin for Lutidze.
Yeah it's not even arm wrestling at this point
@@Dmgolfer22 yeh it's basically a terrible loophole in the rules...
@@deansuttle8438 its not even a loophole, its just within the framework of the rules
I dont understand why this joker is considered an armwrestler when his arm is broken and cant go straight....
Exactly, it’s a joke and a embarrassment
and here we have the mythical under table again
Just watching the start of the 2nd match (after strap applied) and neither ref pays attention to how far Revaz's shoulders are turned off square to table. He's literally already 45 degrees turned toward his side, whereas Mike was fairly square. No fault of Revaz's because the refs didn't square him up.
Engin watch the match again Michael's shoulder is always above the table it never went below ! I think that this was a great match and I don't think we should take anything away from the way it is. Let me know what do you think? Oh and Good Job for setting up this amazing event .Keep up the wonderful work!! You are the best!
Different rules here buddy. Doesn't matter if his shoulder wasn't under the table. Mike's upper arm was in a declining position so it should have been a foul.
It looked like Revaz’s shoulder passed the “centerline” between the pegs many times during the match. This is a foul according to WAF rule 8.1.2. But perhaps the rules are different for East vs West?
East vs West uses a custom ruleset so yeah, I doubt that rule exists as it wasn't even mentioned during the rules discussion gathering.
It wasn't a rule in easy Vs West
you cant complain anything if opponent is doing kings move lol😅
Crossing the center line is a foul in every organization
Exactly I was thinking y no one is talking about it. I am no MT fan however crossing the c line is not how arm wrestling works.
Mike...go buddy... I'll take it"! Love it man
one of the best examples of how much tactics this sport has to offer
Remember this was only a 40% Lutidze
Talking of Rules, Engin shouldn’t be allowed to harass opponents during the break. It’s up to the ref to enforce the rules. Engin should have appealed to the referee if he believed there was a foul. Michael took it well though. They are both good sports.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 I think the rule is, your shoulder can go under the table but only in an attacking position, otherwise it must stay above the table. Engin should have had a word with the ref about it. If everyone piled in on the competitors every time we didn’t like or agree with something, the stage would be a free-for-all. Lol.
@@MattBlytheTheOne the guy just left the comment section. What a coward 😂
Опыт vs молодость. Просмотрел всю серию. Ребята как из Америки так и с Грузии великолепны. Болел за Мишу) Его поражение ярче, чем у многих других победы. Всем крепкого здоровья, с большой любовью из России.
This match jusified why i believe MT is a digrace to the sport, cant stand watching him pull.
Really glad to see Mike getting lower than he has been in the past number of years (whilst remaining within the rules as far as the angle of the humerus bone goes). The past few years he has been pretty self conscious about it and tried to stay way above the table like he did at the start of this match, which wasn't even a king's move, it's just been open-arm toprolling, and it's not been as effective for him (even though it worked great at the start of this match but still).
Michael is funny as hell on stage, super entertaining. Great match. Commentary was awesome too.
At some points I think his humerus may have been at most, flat, which isn't a down-angle, which is a problem in the rules... but it's hard to tell with the camera angle and stuff and the refs didn't call anything.
His arm looked completely straight to me still don’t understand how that’s arm wrestling
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 - At most I saw it being flat, even in Engin's video I don't know... maybe slight decline it's hard to tell with his muscles and the camera angles. Either way it wasn't enough for the refs to feel the need to call it.
Elbow off the pad? are you including all 3 points of the elbow? and remembering that Michael's elbow is dang huge.
Edit: Oh I saw your other comment. I don't think that was decline, and yea elbow fouls happen a lot without getting called, under all leagues.
There is sweat on the table, that's why his elbow is going off the pad constantly.
Wow! two incredible champions! Both men were amazing!
We're done seeing Mike and his queens move. I like him, but glad he's on his way out
The thumbnail is hilarious. Revaz elbow off the pad and mike's arm is straight.
ehh I’m calling it for Michael
Can't stop commenting on this one 😂 great match bye both guys!!! But the thumbnail for this one is funny compared to the rest of the videos posted lol 😆 no coincidence for sure 🤷
Wow these commentators are great I would love to have these two every time I watch a match
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 "biased" You every reflect on yourself?
You're under EVERY damn comment hating on Mike and the KM and you're talking about bias? Ridiculous
Great commentary
Выгоните Тодда из армрестлинга. Своей прямой рукой он только позорит этот спорт и раздражает болельщиков и других спортсменов.
Great match Mike win or loose love your spirit you bring to the Table.......
LOVE to see MMT back with his own style, he has to keep traning his weak points and try to recover his breath
yeah the monster is coming back he looked so good again the refs just fckd him over
@@robbebruers2841 what ref lol? Bitchs move is saving him he is not even top 20 now, stupidest way to armwrestle
@@michaelcook6483 its normal that referees went to the european side, it will be always that way in this kind of events. Its was an incredible match and spectacle.
When did he change his style?
Ya está.. fin para él, sin su payaso movimiento no sirve.
Kind of thankful that Michales injury made him disappear from the stage, these guys have better things to do then having these "fights" with Michael Todd, like actual matches where they test their strength.
Great match I like this mike more it was so fun to watch
I was proud of Michael until 10:09 That's when he disappeared under the Table...
21:50 Майк говорит судьям: "Подождите, я не успел под стол залезть!" )))
I just dont understand. Todds arm is fully extended. He cant straighten his arm any more. How is that a good position for him against somebody that does a tricep press on a regular basis.
Where was Michael going buddy??
Майкл Тодд, это наихудшее что я видел в армрестлинге.
А как же Денис?
For the next event you should maybe have the chalk on a table on both sides to make it more accessible. Just a thought.
@@michaelcook6483 what are you on my friend? I hate comments like you. this whole full match was full of "todd's" mistakes, he literally opened his hand completely and also faced some situations where his shoulder was too much lowered. 15:07 wth is this? maybe another sport. Engin clearly said that with this king, arm wrestlers can do it but only in a winning position and not when losing, todd agrees with these rules, but he did it anyway on losing position only losing.... and the judges ignored this, this is unprofessional actually part of the judge. Todd didn't even have to make it to the 5th round. Winning position means your hand is on his side of the table, so you win "HAND, HAND!" not your fu**ng shoulder...he's literally zero without his " kings move" not even top 15. kings move? let him do it, the it's is a tactic, there is nothing wrong with that, but what he does in this video is clearly cheating, not kings move and he did it the whole match, it should have been be a 3-1 victory for Revaz
Michael "Laydown right away" Todd
26:23 Looks damn close to a pin, and MT elbow was firmly on the pad.
Rivaz lifted his elbow from a losing position, that’s an automatic round loss
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 he lost that match anyways bro. Michael should’ve won 3-2 with the press and the refs admitted it
@@georgepoly4842 Engin said that if negative humerus would have counted correctly with Todd, the thing him and Devon do it all the time, the match should have gone to Lutidze 3-1 and in his mind Revaz was the one who got things made harder, Engin said Todd did that thing countless ,like 10 times, and should be foul every time. Also he explained the rules to Todd before the match. This rule should be counted all the time, it is not only about shoulders in kingsmove, their hands dont go straight and they are exploiting it to make others tired and it should not be allowed thus you need to watch the humerus also, sounds logical to me.
@@Gennaadi lol dawg it sound like excuses to me, Gennady jus beat him wit no complaints & made it look easier, Devon 6-0 that kings move, Michael Todd was comin off losses goin into this match I don’t understand what yall scared of, revaz hung on by the thread of his teeth, if it’s east vs west than rules are gonna have to change to accommodate both sides if mans wasn’t strong enough jus say that
@@xIIViSiiONZzIIHD So taking advantage of your disability as your arm cant go straighter sounds like an excuse to you, well good to know and thanks for sharing it, I disagree.
Someone should have called them out immediately when they started doing that BS.
YOU KNOW WARRIORS like mask todd and larrett are changing the game bringing in people who never watched this sport b4
Thumbnail is specialy added by engin, not editors😂😂😂
Hahaha 😂 yessir
todd is the most entertaining armwrestler for me. i love to see his matches . my absolute fav match is vs devon , back in the arm wars days . if you dont know it you have to watch it !
Как же неприятно смотреть на такую «борьбу». То, что показывает Тодд не украшает данный вид спорта.
Чувак,ты гонишь. Нормальная борьба. Первый раунд Тодд отлично взял. Чем тебе не нравится. А вот как раз таки всё остальное уже не борьба со стороны Латидзе. Залезть на стол и всем тело навалиться на руку. Да это бред.
@@ДИКСОН-у7п кто тебя воспитывал, интересно?..нормальные люди с такой фразой в диалог не вступают.
@@Будьтездоровы-ш4ъ А я вижу ты обиделся ) Хотя ничего плохого я тебе не сказал. Слабый ты,слабохарактерный. А с воспитанием у меня всё в порядке. Просто выразил свою мысль именно в такой форме. Для того чтобы ты сразу понял о том что не надо больше в коментах писать такие глупости. Но ты не понял,ты просто обиделся.
Awesome match. Both guys looked strong AF.
Can you imagine how embarrassing a match between MMT and Levan would have been?
yes and he will embarrass Devon as well
Mt had no chance against the hulk even Devon destroyed him Mt..
😅😅
Legends say that Micheal Todd is still living under a table since the start of his career
Lol
Man, arm wrestling referees miss everything important it seems.
Time is over Mr Monster !
Looks like father time caught up with Michael he can't even beat an inactive opponent.
he didnt pull micheal when he scream at his face like vitaly
Rewatching and 15 mins into this video already, I can't imagine the commentators are writing off revaz and been talking so much in favour of Todd despite Todd been sweating out his butt both literally and figuratively from round 2 get go while revaz is fresh and chilling. What a Total bias commentary!
King of....under the Table !
Why MT is always in defend mode and hoping the opponent make fault? i know recently 2 times he fight on east vs west with the same strategy.... and all are lost
Because he has a bone lock in his arm, so he can sit there, preventing the pin using minimal effort, trying to get the other guy tired so that he can actually stand a chance at pinning him.
thanks for the info, yes it is legal.. but as personal an arms wrestling's fighter , it is no manly, no gentle and no elegant at all, i already doubting MT just a long time when he always show that and not overhelming power like others top arms wrestlers
I love arm wrestling, but watching Michael do this move every time is not even arm wrestling anymore. The king's move is a good asset, but it's getting out of control to use it in EVERY round, for the whole career, without really trying to arm wrestle in a different, more appealing way.
I love you Engin but, Revaz's shoulder crossed the center line multiple times and nobody said anything! You can't argue with a competitor in between rounds! That was not a good look brother. Keep bringing us these great cards champ.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Revaz's shoulder crossed the center line at least 4 times but, that's okay! Revaz lifted his elbow off the pad 10 times in the straps and in the middle of refs grip too. Again, it's ok! Then he intentionally loosened the strap multiple times! Then he took 2 to 3 minute breathers after committing a foul 3 times. Not in between rounds either. If a foul is committed, then they get right back to pulling! Not give the fat outta shape guy more time to recover! So he gets away with all this cuz he's Georgian but, God forbid MMTs angle wasn't perfect after being screwed over 20 times in one damn match. MMT then flash pinned Revaz in the 5th round in accordance to Engin's rules but, again it didn't count and they gave Revaz another opportunity to rest. If you're gonna nit pick the rules, then do it to both competitors. Not just the one you don't want to win!
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 I've placed 4 bets with ppl on here already! They also gave me shut out stakes on all 4 wagers. If you wanna give me shut out stakes I'll place a wager with you too.
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 Like you've pointed out a million times this ain't the WAL. Also when your shoulder comes across after you have full control and are in the middle of pinning your opponent, it ain't the same as crossing the center to use that leverage to get the control needed to pin your opponent. You'll just come up with any pathetic excuse you can think of against any North American puller! What happened to your confidence in Levan? I said I'll put $500 on Devon! It's shut out stakes and I've now placed 5 different wagers supporting Devon with ppl on here that have agreed to the shut out stakes without hesitation. I guess you ain't so confident in Levan after all. Devon 'No Limits' Larratt will beat Levan in an ugly war of attrition! So put up or shut up!
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 You obviously ain't smart enough to read and understand my most recent comment on the subject. Stop talking, making yourself look uneducated and illiterate.
Devon larratt is the only one who really do the kingsmove perfectly nd it doesn’t look illegal