Excellent series, but one slight correction. The Broad Street Connection between Broad Street (J/Z) and the Montague Street Tunnel does still exist and is sometimes used for out-of-service trains and once in a blue moon, during a service change.
Do you know that the downtown platform at Astor Place on the 6 line is wheelchair accessible because of the adjacent shop at K-mart which has elevators.
@@bennythepenny5831 I am sorry if I beat you to the punch. I have been on RUclips six times a week. I am sure that the uptown platform has no elevator at this time..
@@captainkeyboard1007 Why should you be sorry? I don't remember that station having an elevator, but it is connected to the former K-Mart, which has elevators.
@@bennythepenny5831 I "beat" you to first mentioning that the Astor Place downtown platform has no elevator, but the building above the station has elevators. Otherwise, you wrote everything correct.
At the 6 Train if you get Off 138th Street 3 Av near the projects There is some stairs leading to a Locked doorway you cannot enter is says "Stop Wrong way *LOCKED* door" some stuff like that
The South Ferry Loop is still used for museum train fan trips occasionally (for the Lo-Vs IIRC), that is why it looks well kept because strictly speaking it isn't abandoned.
Thanks for this video it’s funny how you talked about train stations being so close to each other. I live on the Q line and it’s crazy how close Beverly and Cortelyou stations are literally a block apart and I live on the in between streets.
Today. The subway. Trains are. Way. Out of place. To much. Crime. On any part of the subway. Not enough. Cops. And the are needed. Badly. For more safertrain. Rides. Remember. Keep. America. Safe. Hire. More. Transit. Cops now
Hey uh I didn’t know if you knew this but like if you take a 5 to bowling green stay on the train just like the 6 train and it uses the inner track to get back to bowling green so you can see the south ferry loop as you pass it like with the 6 and city hall
Holy Cow ! When you showed grand central station I could actually see the celestial art and lighting on the ceiling, but in the 70s it was so full of soot and dirt from years of people smoking and trains ,and also just grime from the city that you couldn't hardly make out anything on the ceiling ,,,,, nice to see they finally cleaned it up .
don't know if you already covered in your earlier videos, as I'm first time viewer, but here's another fact: The Mets-Willets Point station on the Flushing Line (7) was originally built as a local only station, with the entrance located at the intersection of Willets Point Boulevard and Roosevelt Avenue. The station was shifted slightly to the west, and rebuilt to better accommodate the crowds for the upcoming 1939 World's Fair. the original Mezzanine can been seen from street level, and also explains why the Manhattan bound local platform is much longer then the other platforms, as is incorporated parts of the original platform
In the mid to late 70s there was a grand street shuttle on the BMT line after the Manhattan Bridge it had connections to the tracy turn which leads to the j and m lines to see where the connection was after leaving grand street you will see a storage shed that is where the track was
The 5 train as well, use to terminate at the old South Ferry loop when not going to Brooklyn after the pm rush hours during the evenings and on weekends until the late 70's. At that point, the 5 trains terminated at Bowling Green which is the normal service now
I still remember when the side platforms are 96 St on the Broadway section of that line were used as entrances to that station, before they were converted into unusable spaces. The doorways to those sections are still there at the underpasses underneath the tracks and island platforms. 145 St on the 3 can fit seven cars, not just 5. It’s quite possible to extend southward enough to fit the remaining 3, as the 2 and 3 junction is under 142nd st. Don’t think the signal arrangements would allow this though.
Great videos, but you run through the topics a bit and speak too fast to be able to process the information, especially if you aren't a local. I watched it in ×.75 and then it was good, except you sometimes sounded like after the densist's. I would definitely recommend to slow don and also focus on articulation. One thing I could also recommend - using a drawing program for the visualizations, as you can easier prepare the lines and let them pop in 9rmout with just a click. You can also overlay it on a street map or satellite image if needed for clarity.
8:37 You can actually see this connection if you look at any map within a few months of the September 11th attack. When the towers fell, much of lower Manhattan was utterly totaled, especially the underground tunnels. This meant the only services able to really operate in the area were those to the far east of Lower Manhattan. What sits along Eastern Manhattan? The Nassau St Line. So they used the Montague Street Tunnel to make a supplement N and R train to run into Brooklyn during that time of crisis.
The 145th Street Station is the last and the only short station left in the system. It cannot be extended because just south of it are the switches that allow the 2 train to enter the underwater tunnel to the Bronx, and just north of the station are the switches to the lead tracks to the Lenox Avenue Yard. In 1968 MTA extended the line to the 148th Street Station by using two tracks of the Lenox Avenue Yard and planned to close the 145th Station, but the community opposition kept the station open.
Correction: Bowery and Canal St did not had express tracks instead those abandoned platforms and tracks were the eastbound tracks and it closed in 2004 these are in use but only when short turning trains to Essex/Delancey St when there is a sick person on board or for storage.
I lived on top of the abandoned 91st St. station and are used to go down there often in high school in the 80s, there are escape hatches on both corners diagonally of 91st, one used to be in front of the florist, and the other one was in front of twin donuts across the street, I think they welded them shut
Prior to 1968, the boxing and sports arena called Madison Square Garden used to exist between 8th and 9th Avenues at 49th Street. With demolition of the Penn Railroad Station Building, the current Madison Square Garden and office buildings were built. The 50th Street station on the IND line was built the way it was in the late 1920’s to handle the thousands that visited the sports complex. That is why whether the E train is local or express in Manhattan it has to stop at the 50th Street-8th Avenue local stop. You will notice that often the older sports facilities are served by local stations - 50th Street noted above, 51st Street, 49th Street, Poland Grounds, Yankee Stadium, etc. The Mets started in the early 1960's and don't count since the #7 Willets Point station was designed that way for two World's Fairs.
I'm not trying to say I'm wrong but I just thought that since I still didn't know THAT much about trains I always used to see the track on the S line but since now you can't see it now because of the rebuild on the shuttle so I can only see it on the 1 line so that's why
Retired C/R. Put together J trains on those tracks behind the wall at Canal. Nasty, dirty, probably too expensive to reconnect with the Manhattan bridge tracks, requiring a crossover not allowed in construction anymore(only ones left are. 135 Lenox and Myrtle- Bway)
Not bad, but here's a secret to research - WHY did the local tracks of the IND Crosstown line break away from the express tracks before 15th St Prospect Park and then rejoin them before Ft Hamilton Parkway while the express tracks head toward the station under Prospect Park. There were at least two easier ways to build this line through Windsor Terrace.
Dude, you draw like crap, but damn you sure know your stuff, good video. The City Hall station is really cool, but never understood why so many stations were built on curves.
@ RedArrow73 HIS VIDEOS ARE WELL-DONE!! BUT, YES, HE SPEAKS WITH A HORRENDOUS SPEECH IMPEDIMENT AND STRANGE ACCENT. RUINS HIS ENTIRE VIDEO SERIES. HE'S BEEN WARNED BY MYSELF ANDVOTHER VIEWERS TO RE-DO HIS AUDIO, BUT THESE REQUESTS FALL ON DEAF EARS. TOO BAD, AS I LIKE THE CONTENT HE GIVES US, HE IS INTELLIGENT, ENTHUSIASTIC AND HAS A GENERAL MASTERY OF THE SYSTEM. A SHAME!!
I MADE THE SAME RETARDED COMMENT AS YOU DID BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY ENGLISH MAY NOT BE HIS FIRST LANGUAGE. IF THAT'S HIS EXCUSE HE'S EXCUSED. ALWAYS EASY TO POINT FINGERS THOUGH. UNLESS THOSE FINGERS ARE POINTED AT US THEN WE CAN'T TAKE IT.
There's nothing secret about which is which is telling us have you ever worked underneath there and figure things out for yourself no you just ride the train this is history so no there's nothing secret about your video
I love your videos. City hall station is so beautiful I'm obsessed with it. Keep up the good work
The old City Hall station looks so awesome 🙌🏼 I bet it was cool to walk down those steps back in the day
Excellent series, but one slight correction. The Broad Street Connection between Broad Street (J/Z) and the Montague Street Tunnel does still exist and is sometimes used for out-of-service trains and once in a blue moon, during a service change.
I really love to watch this type of videos very well done,
Do you know that the downtown platform at Astor Place on the 6 line is wheelchair accessible because of the adjacent shop at K-mart which has elevators.
At this time, K-Mart is closed and out of business.
@@captainkeyboard1007 I was going to say that!
@@bennythepenny5831 I am sorry if I beat you to the punch. I have been on RUclips six times a week. I am sure that the uptown platform has no elevator at this time..
@@captainkeyboard1007 Why should you be sorry? I don't remember that station having an elevator, but it is connected to the former K-Mart, which has elevators.
@@bennythepenny5831 I "beat" you to first mentioning that the Astor Place downtown platform has no elevator, but the building above the station has elevators. Otherwise, you wrote everything correct.
*145 Street can hold about 6 and a half cars, but modern trains open the doors in five car sets
At the 6 Train if you get Off 138th Street 3 Av near the projects There is some stairs leading to a Locked doorway you cannot enter is says "Stop Wrong way *LOCKED* door" some stuff like that
The South Ferry Loop is still used for museum train fan trips occasionally (for the Lo-Vs IIRC), that is why it looks well kept because strictly speaking it isn't abandoned.
Thanks for this video it’s funny how you talked about train stations being so close to each other. I live on the Q line and it’s crazy how close Beverly and Cortelyou stations are literally a block apart and I live on the in between streets.
Today. The subway. Trains are. Way. Out of place. To much. Crime. On any part of the subway. Not enough. Cops. And the are needed. Badly. For more safertrain. Rides. Remember. Keep. America. Safe. Hire. More. Transit. Cops now
The station on the Brighton line is spelled Beverley Rd and the IRT station is spelled Beverly Rd Always found this odd.
Hey uh I didn’t know if you knew this but like if you take a 5 to bowling green stay on the train just like the 6 train and it uses the inner track to get back to bowling green so you can see the south ferry loop as you pass it like with the 6 and city hall
Bro, this is the best. I watched it all once, then again later. Aves. I'm from Missouri I had 2 days in manhatten 1 time.
Holy Cow ! When you showed grand central station I could actually see the celestial art and lighting on the ceiling, but in the 70s it was so full of soot and dirt from years of people smoking and trains ,and also just grime from the city that you couldn't hardly make out anything on the ceiling ,,,,, nice to see they finally cleaned it up .
I LOVED this video, being a huge fan of Underground rail system histories
don't know if you already covered in your earlier videos, as I'm first time viewer, but here's another fact: The Mets-Willets Point station on the Flushing Line (7) was originally built as a local only station, with the entrance located at the intersection of Willets Point Boulevard and Roosevelt Avenue. The station was shifted slightly to the west, and rebuilt to better accommodate the crowds for the upcoming 1939 World's Fair. the original Mezzanine can been seen from street level, and also explains why the Manhattan bound local platform is much longer then the other platforms, as is incorporated parts of the original platform
He made a video on Mets willets point
im loving this series
In the mid to late 70s there was a grand street shuttle on the BMT line after the Manhattan Bridge it had connections to the tracy turn which leads to the j and m lines to see where the connection was after leaving grand street you will see a storage shed that is where the track was
The 5 train as well, use to terminate at the old South Ferry loop when not going to Brooklyn after the pm rush hours during the evenings and on weekends until the late 70's. At that point, the 5 trains terminated at Bowling Green which is the normal service now
i love this...i have explored many of these abandoned spots
I still remember when the side platforms are 96 St on the Broadway section of that line were used as entrances to that station, before they were converted into unusable spaces. The doorways to those sections are still there at the underpasses underneath the tracks and island platforms. 145 St on the 3 can fit seven cars, not just 5. It’s quite possible to extend southward enough to fit the remaining 3, as the 2 and 3 junction is under 142nd st. Don’t think the signal arrangements would allow this though.
This is soo cool thx for making this series bro
Great videos, but you run through the topics a bit and speak too fast to be able to process the information, especially if you aren't a local.
I watched it in ×.75 and then it was good, except you sometimes sounded like after the densist's.
I would definitely recommend to slow don and also focus on articulation.
One thing I could also recommend - using a drawing program for the visualizations, as you can easier prepare the lines and let them pop in 9rmout with just a click. You can also overlay it on a street map or satellite image if needed for clarity.
8:37
You can actually see this connection if you look at any map within a few months of the September 11th attack.
When the towers fell, much of lower Manhattan was utterly totaled, especially the underground tunnels. This meant the only services able to really operate in the area were those to the far east of Lower Manhattan. What sits along Eastern Manhattan? The Nassau St Line.
So they used the Montague Street Tunnel to make a supplement N and R train to run into Brooklyn during that time of crisis.
Pretty good kid. When I was young. Looking for secrets underneath the city was a thing and fun. The bridges are interesting too
The 145th Street Station is the last and the only short station left in the system. It cannot be extended because just south of it are the switches that allow the 2 train to enter the underwater tunnel to the Bronx, and just north of the station are the switches to the lead tracks to the Lenox Avenue Yard. In 1968 MTA extended the line to the 148th Street Station by using two tracks of the Lenox Avenue Yard and planned to close the 145th Station, but the community opposition kept the station open.
Gets confused cutely
The gap fillers are only on the downtown platforms because the tracks are at a tighter curve
Correction: Bowery and Canal St did not had express tracks instead those abandoned platforms and tracks were the eastbound tracks and it closed in 2004 these are in use but only when short turning trains to Essex/Delancey St when there is a sick person on board or for storage.
I remember when I was a kid when the wall at 96th wasn't up and it was all open, and the middle platform on 59th st was still abandoned.
you can also walk between the two 207th street stations in manhattan. they should extend the second avenue subway to staten island.
I lived on top of the abandoned 91st St. station and are used to go down there often in high school in the 80s, there are escape hatches on both corners diagonally of 91st, one used to be in front of the florist, and the other one was in front of twin donuts across the street, I think they welded them shut
That musical installation you mentioned at 4:30 is at the Broadway & 34th Street BMT station, not the 8th Ave/34th St IND station
Hey I know there's a ton of shitty comments about your video, but this series is pretty cool man.
Prior to 1968, the boxing and sports arena called Madison Square Garden used to exist between 8th and 9th Avenues at 49th Street. With demolition of the Penn Railroad Station Building, the current Madison Square Garden and office buildings were built. The 50th Street station on the IND line was built the way it was in the late 1920’s to handle the thousands that visited the sports complex. That is why whether the E train is local or express in Manhattan it has to stop at the 50th Street-8th Avenue local stop. You will notice that often the older sports facilities are served by local stations - 50th Street noted above, 51st Street, 49th Street, Poland Grounds, Yankee Stadium, etc. The Mets started in the early 1960's and don't count since the #7 Willets Point station was designed that way for two World's Fairs.
I was JUST at Union Square yesterday and saw the moving grates.
Secret: First Fares were 5c. When I first rode the subway 15c tokens, the small ones were used.
What's up Bro. And thanks For the history lesson With B.MT and I.R.T and I.N.D
My favorite one was the bowling green shuttle.
5:49 I thought it was a track (the times sq station) to make the r62s to go to the yard but if it went to 157st well I was wrong
I'm not trying to say I'm wrong but I just thought that since I still didn't know THAT much about trains I always used to see the track on the S line but since now you can't see it now because of the rebuild on the shuttle so I can only see it on the 1 line so that's why
7:15 "You can't fail to miss...?" Whoops!
They shouldn't close the nassau loop that wound be so accessible when weekend construction hits
The tunnels are still there but the tracks were severed.
Retired C/R. Put together J trains on those tracks behind the wall at Canal. Nasty, dirty, probably too expensive to reconnect with the Manhattan bridge tracks, requiring a crossover not allowed in construction anymore(only ones left are. 135 Lenox and Myrtle- Bway)
91st Street, 18th Street, and Worth Street were closed when 96th Street, 14th Street, and Brooklyn Bridge were expanded, making them redundant.
Very nice
Whenever I see Clean Trains Or Stations
I Can't Help But Think...
That Could Do With Some Graffiti
Great video. Go work for the MTA
Just a hint for the future, "infamous" means something that is a bad memory for society. Doesn't make sense to call City Hall Loop infamous.
There is also long-disused elevator from the Queensboro Bridge down to Roosevelt Island
Chambers Street station. Was in the movie C.H.U.D. way back in 84 and it looks exactly the same way.
6 train City hall is my fave too
Good to know that
Good afternoon from Boston Massachusetts
City hall it to close abandoned worth station 11:50
Not bad, but here's a secret to research - WHY did the local tracks of the IND Crosstown line break away from the express tracks before 15th St Prospect Park and then rejoin them before Ft Hamilton Parkway while the express tracks head toward the station under Prospect Park. There were at least two easier ways to build this line through Windsor Terrace.
It's funny how he says "Of course, everyone knows" how to see the abandoned City Hall loop station, but calls it a "secret" anyway.
You mentioned something that you called "nine eleven" that caused the WTC station to be demolished.. What was that exactly? I never heard of that.
You never heard of nine eleven?!! You know, the 9/11 attacks to the original WTC back in 2001?
Pls do part 5
Looking forward to riding the Second Avenue extension. We'll, not me but rather my reincarnated self 100 years from now.
91st it to close the station 96th 91st it reopened the 1999 and 2000s they close the 2005 they built 1930
the 19 street path train underneath 6ave please check that my brother louis was there
Also This is The Weirdest Thing That If 18 St (Lexington) Is Abandoned if 18 St (7 Av) IS NOT!?
The name and title of this video should have been the history of New York City subways not secrets of subways
Thevrirst subway terminated at 145 the St, not 157th!
There more abandoned station u ah e search up your computer or phones
I know someone who claims to have had sex on the 6 making that loop at city hall.
Lexington 53rd station but there another station Lexington av 63rd are abandoned in construction site they opening 1909
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Dude, you draw like crap, but damn you sure know your stuff, good video.
The City Hall station is really cool, but never understood why so many stations were built on curves.
Get speech therapy.
@ RedArrow73
HIS VIDEOS ARE WELL-DONE!! BUT, YES, HE SPEAKS WITH A HORRENDOUS SPEECH IMPEDIMENT AND STRANGE ACCENT. RUINS HIS ENTIRE VIDEO SERIES. HE'S BEEN WARNED BY MYSELF ANDVOTHER VIEWERS TO RE-DO HIS AUDIO, BUT THESE REQUESTS FALL ON DEAF EARS. TOO BAD, AS I LIKE THE CONTENT HE GIVES US, HE IS INTELLIGENT, ENTHUSIASTIC AND HAS A GENERAL MASTERY OF THE SYSTEM. A SHAME!!
I MADE THE SAME RETARDED COMMENT AS YOU DID BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY ENGLISH MAY NOT BE HIS FIRST LANGUAGE. IF THAT'S HIS EXCUSE HE'S EXCUSED. ALWAYS EASY TO POINT FINGERS THOUGH. UNLESS THOSE FINGERS ARE POINTED AT US THEN WE CAN'T TAKE IT.
There's nothing secret about which is which is telling us have you ever worked underneath there and figure things out for yourself no you just ride the train this is history so no there's nothing secret about your video