It's so amazing to me that the same people who say "We need to keep history alive" when talking about the Confederacy will turn around in an instant and say "They need to move on." when asked about slavery.
Totally agree, that women is as dumb as a box of rocks . Trump must feel comfortable . The struggle for Black people continues . God help these Stupid people , to see themselves 😢
They dont deny that they are hypocrites. They will justify what you said by saying black people aren’t equal. Therefore they can be hypocrites towards them
@@uPSIDEdOWN577 Personally I don't think the answer to why they are like this boils down to something as simple as "They're racists." I'm sure most of them really do believe it's "Heritage, not hate." And they just don't want to have to face evidence to the contrary.
@@Knightstruth That's the definition of racism. They defend a heritage of thinking themselves superior to black people. They don't consider it "hate" because they're not hanging people, but to find another member of your species racially inferior qualifies as hate, especially with the acting out of battles fought to own said people, ergo, racism.
The issue I have seen with this is that the Confederate ancestors want to hang on to the past of their heritage but at the SAME TIME they expect Blacks/African Americans to forget their ancestors and move on, well the issue at hand is dead ancestors on both sides and expecting one side to just accept that their race was essentially dismissed in the history and emotions of their family loss while the other side EXPECTS everyone else to accept the bad nature of the history of this war. So Blacks/African Americans are supposed to and expected to forget their history so the Confederates can celebrate the losing and treasonous history of their heritage and everyone is supposed to just accept their heritage. The hypocrisy is deep!
I think what we saw at Congress in January of 2021 is more than recent proof and confirmation that these people are all either out of touch, bigots, or both.🤠
@@mattrussillo4587 Not sure how anyone would think that the January 6th incident(s) are in comparison to the blatant disregard of the historical impact that one side "sees" while ignoring the other sides view of the Confederate Flag racial implications raised by this film. This film was made prior to the incident(s) of January 2021 so not even sure how this is something to be brought up in the grand scheme of the conversation because that didn't happen until 2 years after the fact of this film
The Civil War was not fought over slavery. It was fought over states rights and the high tariff that the north were charging the South. Before the War started, Abraham Lincoln told the South, you can keep your slaves, but we're going to charge you higher tariffs. Lincoln also said, if I could win this war by freeing all the slaves I would do it and if I could win this war by freeing no slaves I would do it. So there you have both sides, the northern and southern states proving the Civil War was not about slavery. Slavery was the worst thing that ever happened to America. But it is still going on in many countries today. Africa is one of the biggest slave continents in the world still today.
You will never be free, because you will not let go of your victimhood (which cripples you) and go out and do anything for yourself. So long as you keep whining, no one is ever going to respect you and you will never run out of excuses to give life a half ass effort.
I think all of those Union boys who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the new freedom slaves were granted would say that they did the best they could at the time. And that they had nothing to do with how African Americans were treated in the south after the war. And would probably say it's not their fault that for the last 70yrs African Americans were enslaved mentally and manipulated into voting for the party that originally enslaved them to begin with. Boom
@@MrKeni420 Go woke, stay broke brother. No race of people, in the history of the world, has EVER whined themselves into prosperity. But keep doing what you are doing. Surely, you will be the first.
The war was over rich white southerners convincing the poor white southerners that the war was really about them. If someone in the south had enough slaves and money they were exempt from fighting. Poor people who had poor education forced and fooled into fighting a battle that wasnt theirs to fight. It's a shame of how many people never read a history book in live in simple denial of these facts. It's also sad that many people probably didnt know these facts until this video.
Wow.The parallels are astonishing. What you just described is the exact same thing that's happening now,with Trump,the rich Republicans and the low iq,low class trailer park maggots.
3700 blacks owned over 12,000 slaves. It wasn't just rich white men. Slavery has been around since the dawn of time and embraced by almost every culture. Do you think the south invented slavery? And where do you think they got those slaves from? Be thankful you live in a country that fought a war to end it.
@@thepitpatrol People being dehumanized, demoralized, tortured, maimed, deprived to reach their full potential. Children being torn from the breast’s of their mothers, toddlers being used as alligator bait, branded, castrated, tarred and feathered. People being made to sleep with their sisters, brothers, cousins, mothers and fathers, used as furniture, worked until their tendons are detached from their muscles. Generationally being told that people who look like you, have no culture, never built a civilization, you are dumb, ugly, cannibalistic savages ho come from a land of darkness and backwardness and you have no soul because you are pure evil and your ancestors were all Satan worshipers that needed to be saved by a white Jesus. No, the south did not invent slavery but their nation practiced the worst form of slavery the world has EVER KNOWN! The only other system that comes close was the Arab slave trade of Africans and some Europeans that they enslaved. FYI, many of those black slave owners, owned their family members and not other Africans. You should be grateful that African people are fierce warriors and forced the hand of the few whites that helped to abolish chattel slavery here in the USA. African people and their unrelenting resolve and fight for freedom created the conditions for the Civil War to be fought in the first place. African people built these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Without the African you or anyone else in this modern world we live in now would not live so comfortably. You’re welcome!
I'm a UK citizen and a child of Jamaican migrants to the UK. England had it's own civil war(s) between 1642 - 1649, and there are small scale reenactments of these battles across the country every year. One of the differences between these and the American civil war reenactments is, very few people in the UK identify with either side. The split was Parliament vs the King and his supporters. Re-enacting a battle is therefore not such a strange thing, from a UK perspective. The American civil war cannot be considered without reference to what each side was fighting for. The consequences of that war had outcomes which resonate through the generations down to today. The stories Americans choose to tell themselves about this war, seem to be so different, both from each other and sometimes from reality, that it's not difficult to see why they are so divisive. It's telling to see how, many white southerners have no concept of why black Americans would would find these parades distasteful. Perhaps one day these affairs will become as inoffensive as their English counterparts but I think that is some way off.
Ummm very few people identify with either side here too.😂 You obviously just got your info from mainstream media and or the internet.😂 Ive lived in NY, Florida and Texas. Nobody cares or identifies just a minority and even then dont lie and say there is no sentiment to who were the good guys in your civil war.
These reenactments or I should say reimagining of the civil war these white supremacists are doing would never become inoffensive when it comes to African Americans it should never be funded by our tax paying dollars and to boot there reenactments is basedoff of myths and untruths when it came to the reason why the South wanted to succeed from the nation and it was purely because they wanted to keep the institution of slavery alive and well period. So you are comparing apples to oranges
The saddest thing about the English Civil War of Charles I is that there were no righteous participants. Just about everybody had their heads up their _____ IMHO. I was rooting for the Levelers, but they were ignored.
They are British subjects. The YT Supremacists and YT saviour's here in British AMERICA are descendants of the trash the Great King's. Kicked out..but don't worry..they are being kicked out of British America Colonies.. because they have a severe shortage of Anglo-Saxon'ancestry in the United Kingdom. ... Justice is gonna be sweet...when KING Charles 3 sees his subjects.... walking around the fancy parts of London England... LoL. They ain't no Southerners..they are British subjects.... LoL.
@afrocentricalion , perhaps the problem is that they see themselves as blacks rather than simply Negro people. In that way they continuously keep themselves separated. I know no Caucasians that constantly tell others that they are white.
"Historians say everything was fine 'til the North came down." Oh, please. I'm from the deep South, and I cannot fix my mouth to say that stupidity. Will humans ever get a clue about how to treat each other?
@Melissa Faye They did!!! Do you not know that only slaves in the south were released!!?? REALLY!!! President Grant kept his slaves and is quoted saying, "Good help is hard to find!". THAT was his reason! General Lee freed his slaves...AND MOST STAYED! EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! The first President was a Black Man!!! You do not know what you do not know!! Nor do I,...but at least I investigate, so I don't make an uneducated statement like YOU did!!!
Why did they keep their master’s Last name? How about because their children and loved ones were SOLD away from them? The name would be a way to find your loved ones. The insensitivity is astounding.
Annnnnnndddd because our native African names were blotted out, and still to this day any Black person with a African name (or on that sound African) is discriminated against by white and black people.
Thank you, many of the children of men have harden there hearts and can’t understand. They took everything; but only Yahweh will make all things right; in the fullness of time 🕊
What does THEIR reenacting have to do with YOU getting over your entitlement mentality because your Great, Great, Great, Great Grandmother and Grandfather were a slaves? Whites, today, don't owe you ANYTHING for the conditions of your ancestors, over 150 years ago. MOST of us didn't even have relatives in the USA at that time. We're SICK of your complaining and looking for free handouts! Live like an American...like ALL of us have to do...or get the H-LL out if you're not satisfied with that!
One must keep in mind that most Americans from the era leading up to the Civil War had never travelled outside of their home state. Their down home sentiment ran very deep and strong.
@@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 actually more people could read & do math & history & think for themselves than they can today. We may have technology but most are dumber than a box of rocks & couldn’t make it without someone else providing for them or stealing from there etc. You obviously have never read the books they read etc. plus most could survive on their own at a younger age than today.
@@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 no.. they were not poorly educated. They were educated extremely well for the work they were doing. If you are a farmer ur need for knowing anything else than farming was to absolut use in 1860s. U seen to forget that 1860 is not now. There were no phones, no internet and u hardly went more than a days ride away from ur farm.
Especially in colonial times. Those colonies operated like individual countries. Did you know it was illegal to be a Baptist or a Quaker in Virginia in the early 1700s? If you were anything other than a card carrying member of the Church of England (Episcopal in the US) you could get shot! George Washington was a staunch Anglican!
Don't forget black tribes in Africa took slaves from other tribes that they went to war with and conquered then turned around and sold those slaves to Europeans
@@brini206 I agree 100% with you what do you have to say about the Democrat Party being the party of the KKK the party that started the Jim Crow laws the party that fought so hard to keep integration from happening you can go online and watch Joe Biden when he was a Senator saying that he did not want integration to happen because he did not want his children going to school in a jungle the Democrat Party is the same party that encourages the black woman in the 60s to get the father out of the household so that they could get more government handouts which broke up the black family what about Joe Biden bragging about coming up with the 1994 crime bill act that locked so many young blacks up for long-term for petty crimes the Democrat Party is nothing but another name for the plantation they have never done anything for the blacks but they are starting to realize that blacks are waking up to what they have done that is why they are pushing so hard to allow immigrants from South America to come up here they need a new voting base because they realize they're losing the black voting base what are your opinions on that and I'm not looking for an argument I'm actually interested in what you think about those things
They lost the war more than 156 years ago, and they are still pissed! What part of their southern Heritage are they most proud of: Treason or Enslavement?
@@hyperdriveek7346 Ooh, isn't that precious; stupid and not a bit embarrassed. So precious! (NOTE: The Democratic Party had a seismic shift with the Election of FDR in November,1932 The Democratic Party in Lincoln's Day, was the Party of the South, while the Republican Party of Lincoln was the Party of the North and of anti-slavery. LOOK IT UP!)
@@StevenTorrey I have looked it up and you are wrong if it was true then why was it Biden himself that didn't want his kids going to a school with blacks, and at the time of the marches with MLK the democrats are the ones that wanted to keep segregation and keep blacks on their own side of the tracks? You tell me to look it up I say get someone to help you read! You can't rewrite history to fit your narrative!
@@hyperdriveek7346 Your statement--"They as in Democrats"--was worthy of fourth grader, hardly explaining anything and leaving no real idea what you meant. And this response is still not very clear. Write a coherent paragraph, and then get back to me.
I think that they should reenact Nat Turner's Rebellion while they're at it. I'm very sure that the "kids" would enjoy that as well! It's a wonderfully rich historical event that deserves a spot in their festival. Please pass along the suggestion.
Bellafonte Johnson wow, I did not know that. I wonder how they got actual pictures of him, so many primary document accounts, period eyewitness testimonials, and fooled all those historians into believing it was true.
Most German reenactors go to Holland or Belgium to do events. There is a very good German equipment museum where 90% of the exhibits and owners are German.
These people are insane and in denial. The civil war was about the freeing of slaves, the fact that there was an underground railroad that led to upper Canada, now known as the province of Ontario is proof. Even museums exist in Chatham Ontario and freedom towns were found in Toronto.
When you take a people who had to learn to survive by any means necessary and to strive into the people that we are today, that's where your high IQ , but people want to base that on your education what does not give you a high IQ only a well-rounded educational objective, but when you learn how to survive with nothing that takes a a lot of thought in process and smartness
Why would any African-American want to attend anything like, s*** you know like I know you will stay the hell away from those devils, they don't come and let you now they just do it in a constructive way, they will deny you things mistreat you hold you up with red tape all those things are being done right in your face, being pulled over and scrutinized by the law when you haven't done a damn thing those are the things that they do all over the world but never ever f*** with this out because the south is the worst and not liberal
@@ryannath85 Smartness is a legitimate word. It's in the Cambridge English Dictionary. Here's one for ya. When did Anton Bruckner write the 2nd version of the Adagio to his 3rd Symphony. Just proving the point that Southerners aren't stupid or lack culture.
The average age of a Civil War soldier was 25. Generals such as Stonewall Jackson, John Bell Hood, Joshua Chamberlain and George B. McClellan were only in their mid 30s.
As a "Yankee" I have had the privilege of visiting and staying in the south when I was younger. North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. I love the difference in culture that exists within our National borders. Obviously there is a bit of southern history that I personally can't truly understand and that's okay. As much as I love the south and as important as history was to the culture, it is just that. History, it's okay to embrace it but In order to move forward the focus should be on a better future and that goes for all of America and the rest of our world.
@@chrispeacock9414 that's my ignorance of historical meaning and for that I apologize if I've offended you. At the end of the day we are Americans and even more , Humans. I have no hate for anyone.
@@uralbob1 the white standard of wealth and religion is what rules this country. They call living to those standards American* and patriotic*. They SET the tone of what it is to be American. And because this is their life they don't even recognize it. Someone has to point it out to them.
@@uralbob1 Yep, southern and poor family over our entire history of being in the U.S. But my Dad overcame, had a middle class career, and we've taken advantage of what this country offers "peasants' in opportunities to move up.
Absolute best line in the entire film: "Yes, we're glossing over the blood and the gore, and the starving, and the 'unwashed masses' and all of that - but if we reenacted that, it would be fun for ANYBODY!" So much for "historical accuracy". Just sayin'.
And people wonder where the anti-science, anti-obvious-fact disease comes from . . . start with the Lost Cause and add in crazed literal fundamentalism. A brew of toxic denial which would detach anyone from reality.
Canadian here. I live about 3 miles away from Battlefield Park in Stoney Creek, Ontario where every June a re-enactment takes place of the War of 1812 battle of the British (us) vs. the Americans. This year some aboriginals were added to the mix, as they fought on the side of the British. The war lasted 2 years, and changed next to nothing except for the devastation of farms around London Ontario and thousands of the refugees coming to my city of Hamilton for relief. When will we learn that no one wins in war?
@@user-gg8pw8wz6oCanada here,,, 1812 the USA had a much bigger army than we did. But even with that, French Canadians, english Canadians and Indians fend off much bigger armies. When the USA sued for peace they had enough warring that put USA into recession, except mass. mas#. Chose not to participate. Those chose to continue business as usual with Canada. Perhaps Mass. Knew something the rest of USA didn't know.
Well, the USA was first to burn down a city. So that changed York, now Toronto. But after that we burned Washington, Buffalo and several other cities in USA. Lol they get pissed off in Buffalo if you talk that. My ex father in law from Buffalo doesn't like talking about it. I told him, USA was the first to burn a city.. He had no reply.
I am back here watching your amazing film again.....I just watched a clip of Trump supporters saying that Obama is to blame for racism in America.... because he's black! Seriously! So I returned to this film...this absolute perfect piece of documentary! It has occurred to me, recently, if a monument were to be erected to commemorate every African American who was murdered in the name of race (something like the Vietnam monument in Washington)....it would stretch for miles and miles! And, presumably, the records of most of them are still in existence, since the were "property"! Anyway, this documentary should be shown to every student in America....and beyond....thank you so much from a white man, from the UK who just wants equality and truth
I'm the descendant of one of Sherman's officers. I'm not one for pride in heritage. I think that the only things you should be proud of are ones that you can control yourself. That being said, if the south rises again I'd like to think I'd continue the family tradition of burning it down
You are in the true tradition of Sherman. The opposite of glorifying war, he said, "War is Hell," wept after the deaths of his men in one battle, but did what was necessary to make sure the South could no longer wage war. "The proper object of practising military training is not in order that men may enslave those who do not deserve slavery, but in order that first they may themselves avoid becoming enslaved to others"--Aristotle
50:35 Why did you keep your masters last name? Our history, culture and traditions, before arrival in America, were stripped from our ancestors memories through years of terror and fear. Our ancestors who arrived in America from the motherland were terrorized when they spoke in their native tongue. So that fear created a system were people did not use their native tongue, Instead they used the language they would not be punished for. We didn't keep the sinful slave masters last name, we adapted the names that we were accustomed to hearing. Most slaves were born in America and never had any knowledge of their ancestry before America. So how can you call yourself by a name that you have never heard.
Last names are European thing also it's easy to tell your history verbally Native Americans have done it Africans still do it over there in that country they chose to forget their own history why do you think Europeans didn't take Native Americans as their slaves throughout this continent because Native Americans would put up a fight and would rather die Africans were happy that they did not have to look for their food risk being killed everyday in the bush as well they did not have to fight to get a woman in their tribe they were given a Woman by their Master to breed with they realize they had a hell of a lot easier life here then they did where they came from
@@patriotiii4218 Hello PIII. Is it your position that Africans were saved from being African and afforded a better quality of life under the loving arms of European land owners?
@@Still-Learning I didn't say they wanted to come here I said living here is more comfortable things were given to them that they did not have to work for I don't actually expect most people understand what I'm talking about as you read in history and you look at how tribes word you had to bust your ass especially if you wanted a woman life was harder for them and while yes some slaves did get beat they all did not give me they took out insurance policies on slaves slaves cost a lot of damn money they actually cost more than white slaves did the insurance company would send an adjuster out to see if try to make a claim what happened to the slave if you are injured it they did not pay out and I'm talking about back then in the 1700 1800 slave costing $10,000 then which was a hell of a lot more then what $10,000 is today the point is they didn't get treated like shit you don't buy a piece of farm equipment that cost you $300,000 which is about the equivalent of $10,000 back then and leave it in the field to get rusty I'm not saying that they should have been slaves I'm saying that they didn't get mistreated like they tell you all the time in your history books written by the white Democrats
One of my co--workers in Florida was a transplant from New Jersey and a Civil War re-enactor on the Union side. His fellow local re-enactors in FLA were extremely delighted to have him join their group because they all wanted to be on the Confederate side. Apparently, unlike the "real" Civil War "JOHNNY REBS " were in abundance but "BILLY YANKS" were in very short supply.
It’s a free country! You can act out and believe WHATEVER YOU WANT! So yea if you don’t like it leave it. If they can have gay pride 🏳️🌈 parades and LBGTQ events and people walk around thinking they are a cat. Then they can act out a war or love the confederate flag! You don’t like it leave it 🤷🏼♂️👍
@@HONDA87200X sure they can go preach hate if they want what gets me is they call themselves Christians I guess there the kind that use the Bible as a weapon something that should free man kind they use it to enslave go ahead and preach hatred slavery and never see the evil in the way you think there is one type of race that's the human race go ahead preach your hate against your brother it just amazing that you see no wrong in burning a pregnant black woman find out she is still alive so slice open her belly and the baby alive falls stomp the baby till it dies that's only one of the lynching that happened in the if you think it's all right to celebrate actions like that I can only call you a very evil person and all others who do the same and trust me the Bible is deeply against such things and the only Bible that supports those actions is the satanic Bible so go ahead go preach your hate and evil but Don't think you are doing God's work are good work at all and please just except the fact that you are a deeply flawed evil person because any intelligent human who sees such things only sees evil humans preaching evil things
Mark George please explain this: During the war between the states, when the Union Army arrived at Jackson Mo. the ranking officer decided they would take the best for their headquarters so happens it was the home of Nathaniel W. Watkins. In the middle of winter and snowing, Watkins and his family was given 3 hours to take what they wanted and clear out. They packed up and moved to their working farm near Morley Mo. from where he sought the return of his property. The Jackson Mo. residence was valued at $56000 in 1870, that's over a million dollars today. Watkins held many offices in and out of government and was in the national guard, a veteran of the war of 1812 and the Mexican War. Right before the Civil War he was promoted to General in the Confederate Army, but when he knew that war was near he resigned his post, siting he didn't want to destroy missouri but only wanted to preserve it. Watkins talked to different people in the government and got a Congressman to deliver a letter to President Lincoln. Lincoln told the Officer to return the old man's property, even this didn't have any effect, as the Officer didn't respect Watkins because he had been, in his eyes a rebel or sympathetic to the rebel cause. Watkins continued to live on the Morley property with his family and was visited by the Army again, this time they took horses, mules, stock and it was noted that they didn't even leave a single saddle BUT ALL THE SLAVES WERE LEFT and sometime either before or after Watkins death in 1876 the Union Army torched the Jackson home. The Morley farm or Beechland as Watkins called it, was valued at $35000 in 1870, that's over $600,000 today. Beechland, was named for the abundance of beechtrees that made the harvesting farm / plantation possible. Today the old plantation is owned by the Missouri department of Conservation and is open to hunting, hiking, camping and fishing. You can find places throughout the woods where Mrs. Watkins planted flowers that bloom to this day, I saw some starting to pop up just the last week and there's a few mighty beech trees still alive that witnessed all this history. References: files.usgwarchives.net/mo/scott/cemeteries A viewer readable ebook- OLD WAYNE: A Brit’s Memoir By Cletis R. Ellinghouse. The ordeal of twenty-year-old schoolteacher Sarah Pauline White, sentenced in 1864 to confinement at hard labor in the state penitentiary for the duration of the Civil War for writing a letter to a rebel soldier, was one of several painful experiences And other various Internet sites.
Andy, what exactly are you asking me or your point? Also, I'm wondering if you'd be willing to come on my little podcast and talk about your criticisms of the video? Just let me know. Peace and love to you and yours.
Is the point that Lincoln was a good guy and the officer a bad guy? You might 've heard that wars bring out the worst in people sometimes, it doesn't prove the south or north were the "good guys". And it even happens that in a armed conflict there are no good sides. I'd like to advise you the following: try to be as critical of "your side" as possible if you root for a side in an armed conflict. That helps to avoid getting an oversimplified view of important things.
Yeah, wouldn't want to be a Yankee in HIS court... lol. Give me a break. This documentary draws too much of a correlation between reenactments and subverted southern history.
I'm African American. I went to the Battle of Honey Springs re-enactment, in Rentiesville, OK, one year and I really enjoyed it. It took me back in time. I felt no racism there. I like Civil War history.
The white American conservative rascists are hands down the best at trying to hide their racism. Notice I use the word "try", because racism can never be truly hidden. If you were a slave for even one day, you would wake up. These people are not your friends.
"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do it." -Abraham Lincoln August 1862
The difference between a politician and a statesman. Lincoln grew to believe slavery really did need to be wiped out. A lesser person might not have thought so.
It will never be deleted because its forever in the history books. I think romanticizing about the Civil war speaks a lot about the overall moral of whites and their lack of empathy for blacks and the whites who died and went to hell. That’s what this video seems to portray.
@@jt3409 I agree, remembering or learning history doesn't have to include hot dog stands and cotton candy or flag waving.The denial in these folks doesn't change what they are denying.
I always thought this is one of the sickest things that we could teach our children. I’m now 74 years old .they had shows on like, the gray ghost and branded. Trying to homogenize it . who sponsored it? You name it. Tobacco companies, Coca-Cola, etc. etc. Like the collapse of every other society, People can’t let go of the past and eventually the society collapses. I followed the history of the Civil War. I read about Grant and Lee. I’ve been to the legit museums through Tennessee and Virginia. It was a horrible, devastating war. Nobody survived it. That’s why we are at this juncture.
Today’s Southerners should not be bullied into carrying the yoke of guilt around their necks for the criminality and villainy of their Democrat ancestors.
But what people do not want to talk about is that people were aligned with the Republican or Democrat party as being a northern did not automatically make you an abolitionist nor being a southern made you pro slavery. It was your belief system & many families & friendships were broken over what they believed not where you lived. The Republican Party was started by people who were abolitionist & wanted to stop slavery where the Democrat party believed that slavery should be kept.
They are getting deported back to England. King Charles 3 wants his subjects back. They have a severe shortage of Anglo-Saxon'ancestry in the United Kingdom. Revenge is gonna be WELCOMED. LoL...
"Go back to wherever you came from!" 🤣🤣🤣 Why is that ALWAYS the go-to response of the deficient? Then, without fail, they follow it up with, "but I'm not a racist" , lol smh... I'll bet her "best friend is Black" too. Such a sad existence.
@@ianmcbride412 Yea, that's always the odd thing about it. "Get over it" from folks staging re-enactments of battles in a war (over the very system they tell Black people to forget about) that they LOST over a century ago... just to make themselves feel better. Ain't that peculiar?
@@monteblanc1622 very odd indeed, I just wonder about what their reaction would be if there were union carpet bagger re-enactors reminding them of their loss, telling them to get over it or else go back to where you came from, 😃, Very odd and quite neurotic,,,
I don't think that statement is racist. I don't care if your black, white, brown ect, if you don't like the area you live in, why would you continue to live in that place?
I was born in the South and I've lived here all my life, but I can't reconcile the way Southerners have acted all these years. And it's STILL going on! What will it take for our people to realize that this issue came to a head in the 1860s, a war was fought, and the South LOST. But they just won't let the War end. It's STILL going on, and it's like a cancer that consumes us all, no matter how we feel about it. States rights ... a blanket term that includes many issues ... virtually ALL of which have to do with RACE. No one can deny that. In the 1860s, states rights involved being allowed to keep people enslaved. In the 1950s and '60s, when I was growing up in Mississippi, states rights was all about "our children not having to go to school with THEM." This documentary taught me so much ... thank you. I just wish we didn't NEED to know all of this.
Is state rights just about states having the right to oppress people as they see fit? Why not have Civil reenactments that give the experience of ALL groups of people that fought in the war? What about the many indigenous tribes that fought for the south or the north? Or the black people who fought?
@@thepitpatrolRight because America is built upon hypocrisy. The constitution did state the negro was 3/5 human so why should any negro expect respect. Why should any Caucasian empathize? It’s the law of the land. If one doesn't like it. One should leave, post haste!
It's definitely important to remember and preserve history, even the ugly side. Such as in Germany where the Concentration Camps still stand. Preserve and learn for future generations.
@@markpgeorgeWe definitely distort and rewrite history. And we attempt it alot more than it succeeds. Look at the 1619 project. Look at all the statues that were torn down. They even tore down a historic Fredrick Douglas statue.
@@andypbj267the Douglass statue was torn down by two drunk college students who were attempting to steal it to keep as their own possession. Both of them were charged and saw repercussions for it as well.
"Slavery was on it's way out" Yeah, tell that to the victims of the United Fruit Company plantations in Central America where slavery persisted for 100 years after the Civil WAr. The slavers had bigger plans, look up the "Knights of the Golden Circle"
@@timper4326 so just at a glance at communism, you think it better to remove all Land and purchasing power of the citizen (#you) and let the ruling class do whatever they want with the spoils of their labor. They drink from crystal and we drink from a paper cup. They sleep in airconditioning while if there is a power shortage we sleep in the heat. Capitalism isn't bad , you can rise up through hard work and become wealthy but your choices have to be smart not foolish. You won't get that chance with any other government. It's true the rich/poor gap is like the grand canyon but we should have paid closer attention to the corruptions of our elected officisals, now we need a Escape from L.A. scenario.
@@stuartewoldt1513 You clearly don't know what communism is, because there's a difference between authoritarian dictatorship disguised as communism, and actual communism. Historically authoritarian dictatorships have co-opted the communist party "ideas" then under that guise, rose to power as a "working class" party, then immediately dumped everything but the name. To keep ignorant poor co-signing a party for elitist rich dictators. The literal meaning of communism is removing the means of production from the rich single owners, and placing it into the hands of the people actually providing the labor. If you think that business owners provide the bulk of of labor for the industries they operate in, you're delusional.
The "Lost cause" myth needs ended. The confederacy had nothing noble about it. The confederate army was very much from the middle ages in that a wealthy land owners formed units from the poorer classes, much as nobles compelled their serfs to join their units. They were fighting to preserve slavery not states rights. The southern states wanted the right to to go into other states, that did not allow slavery, and seize escaped slaves or people they thought were escaped slaves and then extradite them back to the southern states without legal cause, warrants or any judicial review. There is nothing great about the confederacy or it's legacy.
I read somewhere about the Knights of the Golden Circle. It’s the plan the south had to expand their slave states and capture new slaves. Very interesting ☮️♥️👵🏼
Just remember. Vietnam was Communism riding on the wave of Nationalism. We lost Nam to Commies. The president of Singapore said the the US held off Communism for almost 20 years, giving the area a chance at eliminating poverty. It did. Look at it now. Look at Vietnam as a battle in the Cold War. We won.
We left Vietnam after a treaty was signed. The north broke treaty we choose not to go back in because the south vietnamese govt was incompetent and corrupt
I've been to the south a few times for business. I just don't like being there for a number of reasons. I'm sure many of the engineers I met with were convinced I shared their racist views and the hatred that goes with them. I can't even believe how many times I heard "I'm not a racist but..." Celebrating slavery is not for me.
Yes. I think you’re right about the engineers. I’ll never forget this one guy I came across. I deliver (UPS type), and so does this guy, for another company. We’re both waiting for something in the same general area, and it’s MLK day. Scene set; we don’t know each other At All. Dude comes up to me and starts calmly complaining about having to work on “N” Day, and …. etc. etc. the most vile openly racist spit that possibly be said! I didn’t even say anything. All the while, as this thick southern accent is whining about “them”; I’m thinking to myself, “Is this just how it is there?” I mean this guy was just nonchalant. Didn’t even say hi - just started spewing hateful rhetoric to a fellow white guy, as if it’s all cool. 🤨
The reason you kept hearing it is because you didn't put a stop ro it the first time. They took your silence as complicity. Perhaps you were meeting for business and didn't want to mess up your money or relationship but if you seem comfortable with the ignorance they will continue to display it
@@user-os1yg3zl6i or maybe it’s not his job to police everyone’s speech. Maybe he should have just started beating his ass while yelling “speech = violence!”. Maybe it’s now your duty to now track down the man he’s talking about and bring him to Justice and by not doing so you are complicit and basically a member of the KKK.
They don't see themselves as celebrating slavery (since the lost cause myth has scrubbed slavery out of their reasons to fight). I would be interested to hear what their responses would be, if four black Americans approached them saying, "hey, this looks cool. We want to play! What can we do?" The answer to that question might expose how much of their 'heritage' they're embracing.
I'm all for it. We should reenact every battle and make sure the South never forgets that they lost the war and the unjust cause they fought for. Rub it in every chance you get and don't concede how brave they fought, because so did the Germans in North Africa, the Ardennes, and at Anzio.
You indoctrinated tard, the Democrat Party LOST the War, geography didn't. And no the Democrat Party learned nothing. They went from White Supremacists to Black Supremacists in less than 40 years. Democrats ran the KKK and BLM. Joe Bribem surrounded himself with huwhite supremacists in the 70s.
NOBODY Wants To Be Honest, Just Like Mormons That Have Come To My Door, Haven't An Answer For "How Come The Black Man Can't Hold Titles Of Any Power In Your Religion"??
Exactly. I asked them that too. And their need to be the chosen people so much so they created their own "prophet" & own bible. These people know there is nothing that screams "Christian" about them thus they became "Mormons". Doubt me? Read about the Mormon slaughter of innocents to steal the land because Brigham Young lied & said God ordered it. Fake wanna be Israelites. People absolutely love living their lives. Always have. Facts.
@@RainbowLayer92 you mean like letting a re-enactment or a battle flag or some ones heritage hurt their feelings...those kind of people use those list of excuses all the time to not improve their lives....and then blame southerners for something like slavery that happend 160 years ago NOT to themselves mind you...none of these people complaining have ever been slaves or ever knew anyone who had ever been a slave...weakness...the ones complaining are comfortable with ALWAYS playing victim for attention... those are the people who make excuses and refuse to better their lives
@@billybonz3691 I just remind them that most slaves in Africa were TRADED to Europeans by African tribal kings. They were already slaves before the whites showed up.
My family on my Dad’s side left the South during civil war times, because they did not agree with Southern thoughts/ behaviors with slavery, and violence. When I began to research my family history, I learned a lot. They moved to the North, and never looked back. It is shameful, and disgusting that people still cannot treat others with empathy. These folks that want to claim,” STATES RIGHTS,” completely ignoring those rights were owning slaves, need a history lesson. How can they continue to ignore the treatment of those who were enslaved? I will never understand.
@Clayton Phillips Hey Clayton, what did I ever do to you, the answer is nothing, what did you ever do to me, the answer is nothing, here is what really is going on = Keep hate alive, the fed reserve Bankster Puppet-Masters love it, it keeps everybody divided so they don't go after them, the real enemy of all people.
@Clayton Phillips No I understood exactly what ya meant, my point was to simply state what really is going on, the Puppet-Masters want nothing but to keep everybody divided, keep everybody hate'n on everybody, if everybody is always divided it keeps everybody too busy to Unite and go up against the real enemy of all people, BANKSTERS.
That woman was embarrassingly ignorant, but she also seemed like a person who is probably just not very nice in general. When you take the flippant attitude that any offense you cause is the other person's "problem," you aren't being appropriately mature and don't sound like a person with reasonable standards for your own behavior. It's sad (and potentially dangerous) when biological adults are this way.
@Melissa Faye The Real Enemy of ""ALL"" peoples is the Fed Reserve Banksters, keep everybody hate'n on everybody and pay no attention to the Puppet-Masters behind the curtain.
@Nautica NAUGHTY G Gibson There is ""NO"" such thing as an "African-American"" unless someone has migrated from Africa to the U.S. and gained citizenship, so the phrase African-American that you like to use would ""NOT"" even pertain to being black, there are White people from & in Africa, you are Indoctrinated to believe that blacks are perpetual Victims.
I defended peoples rights under the 1st Amendment to express themselves even though I do not support racism of any kind. But they have rights and when we let people tell us we can't do it, I say it's a protected right.
@patrick9821 should state tax dollars and "public" resources be used to "privilege" one form of "free speech" (one that actively distorts history)? I ask because that is what these events do......?
@@MrDeanmfitz One perspective limited perspective on the causes of the Civil War (again, instead of the State supporting and funding multiple takes on that war.).
No, they wished to keep their finances in the status quo. Per capita Southern states were the richest in the nation. Owning slaves was part of that top financial position. Defending slavery was the reason the South started the war.
This dude has a lot of self hate going on and the film reflects this well. Sounds like someone who can't cope with their heritage. The most hateful person featured in this film was the director/narrator.
I think the professor that used the war in Cambodia as a perfect example of why people shouldn’t reenact any war,especially a war that is a part of such a depressing time in our history as a nation.War re-enactments make little sense, but I guess that’s just my opinion…idk..
Maybe reenactments may sound like a waste of time but I been on staff rides that studied battles from both sides and it was enlightening to learn about all that history.
Festival? Holding on to Racism. Denial of human/equal RIGHTS for BLACK AMERICANS. Period. The south LOST the war. They continue to Hold On to their Crude Unholy Thinking/way of life.God see & is WATCHING.
Well aren’t you glad nobody makes you participate? It’s good to know we can all mind our own business and do what we want without someone’s tender feelings can interfere with another’s heritage.
Southern reenactors always tend to look 3 times older and 3 times fatter than the historical counterparts. I guess this is why Tony Minghella used Romanian real life soldiers for the battle scene in Cold Mountain.
@@mikeluke7417 Somebody needs to do some shaming on the sets of these reenactments, carrot or the stick therapy, bag of McDonald's or raw turnips and a paycheck. Or if they're volunteers free passes to the Jenny Craig meetups
@@mikeluke7417The CSA should have first, built up a capable navy. 2. Struck a preferred deal w Europeans for textile/cotton, 3. signed emancipation laws and replaced the labor then figure out the alternatives. PS. their Virginia leadership was very capable.
What Lincoln said there is they wanted to keep the power of their Union REGARDLESS if it freed or helped slaves in any way!! Again, the main reason was for power and control!!
@@rjtheripper931 did you know that Union Gen US Grant had Slaves? Did you know that 4 Union States were slave states. Google DEVIL'S PUNCHBOWL IN VICKSBURG MISSISSIPPI and see what the North thought about slaves
@UCmyzRtCuasb2KvbXmBWVHLA You idiot FT Sumter was a US fort . Just because the people in South Carolina stupidly decided to hijack their state from the federal government doesn't change the fact that it was a US fort
60 now and I don't recall ever sitting round discussing and reenacting the civil war. Originally from the north, the only thing, for a long time is what we were taught in school. Within the last 5 or so years I've been learning more on my own.
Never understood why the American South has existed for hundreds of years and out of all those years they pick out the 5 years they started and lost a war to keep black folks in chains and declare "THIS is our heritage!". Southerners, you guys have a LOT of heritage. You have points in history where you were the good guys and you won. You don't need to glorify those 5 years you were the villains.
To be fair, I must argue with Dr David Williams about re-enacting civil wars elsewhere. He was rather disingenuous to use the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia as an example. In the United Kingdom, thousands of people re-enact the English Civil War with fastidious detail and enthusiasm. On the other hand, I am fully eligible to join SCV - and have chosen not to do so. It took me many years to understand that reality and history were not the "Gone with the Wind" sentimental narrative we grew up with... 😣
The English Civil War was very different from America's. It was royalist forces against parliamentarian forces. The latter won. There's no comparison with the US Civil War and the conflict was between two factions of what a Marxist would call the ruling class.
Yes the sealed knot society is the name of the reenactment group for the english civil war. This documentary was weak. So what if people want to do this for fun.
@@georgekoscho4281 there are also Vietnam war era reenactments, and the D-Day WW2 reenactment is spectacular, held on conneaut Ohio...ppl will always talk about their last battles it's human nature.
Being as though I'm from Atlantic City NJ , To see a Confederate statue at a Court House is 🤯 .... There's no way Lady Justice is blind there. How would you EVER beat a speeding ticket let alone a criminal case? To me , an American of African Descent , it seems as if the Statues & Flags are there to remind you of who is in charge. I would NEVER send my kids to college in the South.
And we appreciate you not sending your kids to college in the South.We do not want anymore transplants down here, we have had enough the last year alone.
You are absolutely correct. Those statues were put there to intimidate black people. To basically say,yeah we can't have you as slaves anymore,but we are still superior. We still have the power. And you better not forget it. Growing up in Louisiana as a child ,Those things were EVERYWHERE. You couldn't escape them. Some of them were gigantic. Before I was old enough to know better,I would ask my mom and dad who those men were.If I was with my dad,he would say,they was some bad men.Just don't worry your Lil heart about it. When I was with mama,she would tell me,Now You just don't pay that no mind. And don't ask again. You Hear Me.
In days of old, a tale unfolds, A time of strife, the story goes. The nation torn, divided strong, A conflict fierce, enduring long. In the midst of chaos, humor arose, A funny poem about the Civil War, here it goes: Once upon a time, in a land divided, A war was waged, passions collided. Brother against brother, it was quite absurd, But let me share a tale with a funny word. In the midst of cannons and muskets loud, There was a soldier, both brave and proud. With a twinkle in his eye and a jest to share, He lightened hearts burdened with war's despair. He'd tell a joke amidst the battle's roar, Of generals and soldiers, their egos sore. He'd say, "Why did the Confederate chicken cross the road? To show the Union rooster he wasn't easily slowed!" Laughter would spread like wildfire's glow, Even in the darkest hours, it would show. For in humor, they found a moment of peace, A temporary respite, a much-needed release. So, let us remember those days long past, The tales of valor and humor that will forever last. For amidst the darkness, a spark did ignite, A funny poem that brought a smile, shining bright. In the annals of history, it will forever be, A reminder that laughter can set us free. Through the trials and tribulations we face, A touch of humor can bring solace and grace.
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@@John_Richardson_Meadows thank you.. I wish I could take full credit but I merely disseminated this poem.. I created it using the chatGPT 😁 by OpenAI.
Although Mexico outlawed slavery in 1829, Texas, then a colony of Mexico, held onto its slaves. In fact, slavery was one of the causes of the revolution that led to Texas's independence in 1836. Texas was admitted to the United States in 1845 as a slave state and the number of slaves there increased exponentially. The region of the Mexican state of Coahuila y Tejas, now commonly referred to as Mexican Texas, declared its independence from Mexico during the Texas Revolution in 1835-1836, when the Centralist Republic of Mexico abolished autonomy from states of the Mexican federal republic. This treaty, signed on February 2, 1848, ended the war between the United States and Mexico. By its terms, Mexico ceded 55 percent of its territory, including the present-day states California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma. Twelve years later, Santa Anna's failed campaign in the Mexican-American War caused Mexico to cede half of its territory (50). He lost even more land to the U.S. in the 1853 Treaty of La Mesilla, a sale he personally benefited from while he was dictator (51). Like other Mexican liberals, Juárez looked to the U.S. as a model of development for Mexico, while conservatives looked to Europe, especially France and Britain. When Santa Anna returned to power in 1853, many liberals went into exile in the U.S., including Juárez. The war against the United States and the three years of civil war (War of Reform) left Mexico very weak. By 1861, Benito Juárez decided that Mexico was too poor to pay back its debts to Spain, England and France. When Mexico stopped paying, the European countries sent a joint army to Mexico to get their payment back. By the late 1850s, years of internal strife had left the young republic of Mexico fractured and deeply in debt to Europe. Seeing an opportunity to expand the French Empire in the New World, Napoleon III invaded Mexico in 1862. At least 2,500 Mexican Texans joined the Confederate Army. The most famous was Santos Benavides, who rose to command the Thirty-third Texas Cavalry as a colonel, and thus became the highest ranking Tejano to serve the Confederacy. An estimated 20,000 Indian soldiers participated in the conflict, fighting for both sides. At the outset of the war, many nations in Indian Territory signed treaties with the Confederacy-supported by a minority of wealthy slave-holding Indians within their communities. The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma had their own "Civil War" during the US Civil War. The 1866 Reconstruction Treaties with "The Five Civilized Tribes" (Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Muskogee/Creek, Seminole) mostly resulted in USA vindictively seizing Indian Lands. The Freedmen Blacks were supposed to be absorbed into each Tribe as citizens or Tribal Members, but not all Tribes followed this directive. However, many "mixed" persons of Afro & Indian descent existed. White census-takers tended to follow Dixie's "One Drop Rule" to assign Negro heritage only to these, though the term "Mulatto" was also used. ** "40 Acres & A Mule" *** The Ebenezer Creek Massacre (near Savannah, GA) is not re-enacted. This was after General Sherman burned Atlanta, then marched Union troops toward Savannah. Thousands of now Freedman Families followed the Union Army. Sherman left the mass of Freedmen families at the Ebenezer Creek, then marched toward Savanah. CSA troops & others had been shadowing Sherman's march, now attacked the mass of Freedmen, resulting in a panic of people jumping into the Creek to drown. Deaths were anywhere from hundreds, to a thousand. This resulted in Lincoln dispatching Secretary of War Stanton, and Gen Sherman using his wartime powers to issue his Special Orders #15, seizing coastal farmlands from South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida to the St Johns River... for up to 18,000 Freedmen Families, up to 40 acres of farmable land each. When the US Army would have surplus mules, they would be donated also. This massive seizure of lands, awarded to Blacks, set into motion the strategy of CSA surrender to set-up the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Andrew Johnson ascended to US President, then cancelled Special Orders #15. President Johnson did demand an Oath of Allegiance before returning lands back to whites. Reconstruction: The Freedmen & Refugees Bureau to help build infrastructure for new Black communities, was abolished by US Congress without any reasons in 1872. **** Compromise of 1877 was the election of the Dixiecrat Tilden as US President, pending a count of Electoral College votes. A special panel of US Supreme Court Justices & US Senators convened, and made GOP candidate Rutherford B. Hayes the next US President by 1 electoral vote. The Dixiecrats then threatened to filibuster the Inauguration, which at the time was required to occur by date of March 4th. A compromise was reached to withdraw the federal occupation troops from the Dixie South. Frederick Douglass was very quick to denounce the capitulation: "You have remanded the former slaves back to their masters!" And Dixie was openly frank about not recognizing the US Citizenship of African Americans even with the Amendments to the US Constitution. Way back in 1787, at the US Constitutional Convention, it was South Carolina slave owner Charles Cotesworth Pinckney who objected to Abolition in a first draft of the US Constitution. The Yankees decided to Compromise with Pinckney, setting 1808 as a future review date for Slavery. Pinckney... Clementa Pinckney, State Senator of South Carolina, and church preacher, was one of those murdered by Dillon Roof in his racial hate attack.
I was born in 1963. The confederate flag was on the Alabama capitol until I was about 30. The radio station WBAM played Dixie at sign off at sunset in the 1970s. Both unceremoniously went away without mention or protest that I remember. But they were there so long.
The Confederate flag wasn't removed from South Carolina’s statehouse grounds until 2015 after decades of protest against the symbol came to a head following the killing of nine black people in a church in Charleston. My family's home state, I was born up north but spent most summers there. I never understood why they would fly it.
@@tamarashort7269 Originally set to be flown for the 100th Anniversary of the Civil War, but the law had no "sunset date" (date for take down) but the was probably intentional as the civil rights movement was in full swing at that time.
@@markpgeorge..we know. Because butt hurt people that are only 13% of the population are so immature they can't view all history with intelligence. Thats the reason and the only reason they were moved.
Every time hollywood needs extras for a war movie they hire reenactors. The movie Gettysburg hired hundreds of reenactors. The cannon were privately owned and operated by reenactors
It's funny how many times we hear these "re-enactors" and "history-lovers" say "we have to move on!!!!" I guess what they mean is that we have to "move on" from historical truth and replace it with myth. But then, so many of them ARE true Christian "believers!!!"
Yeah, who wants to be property of another person and forced into labor all your life and never have any rights as a human being or own any property not even your own children. Then all your descendents repeat the same lifestyle for another few centuries. YOU GOT TO BE CRAZY!!!
@ 10:27 the professor compares the U.S. North to the Khmer Rouge. That is a very telling slip-up. You inadvertently showed the North as the not-so-innocent aggressors.
A superbly done effort! As a historian, with a background in German history, who currently teaches American history, I have often found the following analogy useful in helping Americans understand the perverseness of Southern Americans celebrating a whitewashed version, if not completely rewritten account, of their Confederate history. “As an American, what would you think of present-day Germans reenacting their history from 1935-1945 and completely leaving out any representation of the acts of persecution against Jews, gypsies, communists, or homosexuals (et. al.)?” Based on what I saw in this film, there is at least one person who would have the following advice for Jewish people, “Hey, the Holocaust happened a long time ago. Get over it!” 🤯☹️
Lol you seem to expect our country to give the honest truth about all wars then correct? You seem like you think the civil war(on the southern side) is the only time lying is occurring. All of us have been lied to for decades - if you expect the truth then you are painfully naive .
So, American Revolution re enactments are demented??? The producers of this documentary failed to mention the many American Revolution re enactments that happen every year.
@Stupid Liberals smh deflection. But u still can’t argue the fact that the southern reenactors are reenacting a war which the south fought to KEEP slavery.there racists then and racist now
@Stupid Liberals Strom Thurmond was an unrepentant segregationist Dixiecrat that joined the racist Republican south after LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation. FACT.
Message for Dr. David Williams from the Netherlands, Europe. If you have ever visited historical Europe you would know many countries, or even many regions, re-enact historical battles. Not even to begin about fans of certain tv-shows (like LotR) who enact fairs, costume shows and battles
I'll give you three guesses as to why the Cavaliers vs the Roundheads is completely different from the Union vs the Confederacy, not only in terms of their underlying causes but in terms of their contemporary sociopolitical resonances, not to mention the attention to historical detail of the former type of historical reenactment (excellent) as compared to the latter (poor). All of this was addressed in the video. Your point is spurious, and that's being charitable. Try watching the video before commenting next time.
@@findlesplurb If you have ever visited historical Europe you would know many countries, or even many regions, re-enact historical battles Thats what I said. I was not talking about cavaliers or roundheads, union or confederacy. I am not sure what you are trying to say. It seems to me that you think our history did not resonate enough, like the battle of Stamford bridge was just a meaningless brawl and Napoleon was just taking his countrymen on a trip. But hey, thanks for your charity, God bless you 👍
@@findlesplurb You are right about that one, LoR does not belong there. I said it because the only person I know who does reenactments also does fantasy. They are very accurate about the clothing and script, but there is no historical value in it. I totally agree with you and as a history fan I feel the need to apologise... but I will not go that far... I will just agree that you are right, not the same catagory
It’s crazy how there was no riots or looting or destruction of property at this event. Wonder how many people got arrested, if any….bet we can all think of some other public events held by other “groups” where that’s not the case.
There is a road my dad and I drove down in rural Missouri where he was talking about a local issue regarding changing the road's name. It was named for a hangman's tree there, and the name- something like "Hanging Tree"- was upsetting but honest. The name was offensive because the reality it describes was egregious. But what do you do with that? Any acknowledgment is ugly, but attempting to cover it up seems like it would also be a terrible mistake. ~ I'm pretty sure the tree was still there, but I don't know if the road's name changed. Either way, I highly doubt that the U.S. is collectively in some grave danger of forgetting the Civil War any time soon.
@@timpipkins5190 ok, well when the klan want to change MLK name off the streets, we will have to let it happen. Be fair now. All I'm saying. Asking for things like that in America can backfire.
The point is these “re-enactments” are not re-enactments at all. It’s fake to the core and only fuels the divide of this country. We all want to see positive change but no one wants to work together. Good luck with that
Negative narrative? - These reenactors justify it by saying it's about history and education but spin false narratives in order to make the CSA look cool - They defend the CSA and disrespect the Union - They skip out on teaching anything they don't want to teach - They force black people to pay for it I'm sorry, but what here is positive?
As a native born southern with family in the south since the 1600s I am not a confederate, pro confederate, or neo confederate. I despise the confederacy and all it immorally stood for.
Kentucky sent over 125,000 troops to the Union forces and about 35,000 to the Confederacy. I'm not sure if those 300,000 stats are counting Kentuckians as Southerners or not since Kentucky was a border state that didn't join the Confederacy. Interesting nonetheless.
If they want to keep the monuments in the south; then write the truth. For instance; “to honor the racists who fought to keep slavery”. This will ensure history will not be lost.
Mr. George, your citing the Southern Poverty Law Center as an authoritative and reliable source so early in your film does your creation no service. I tried to stay with it beyond that error but simply could not do so for more than a few increasingly painful minutes. And that's from a Vietnam combat infantry veteran born in the north whose ancestors all wore Union blue.
Hi Russ, how about coming on my podcast and talking about your concerns? If you'd been open to that just send me an email at goingsouth2022@gmail.com and we will schedule it. I hope you accept my offer. Peace and love to you and yours.
Do Germans reenact ww2 battles? No, because a major are ashamed of the atrocities that happened due to the Nazi's. I dont buy this "keeping history alive" BS.
Slavery was a legal institution and was taxed for it's production of goods a long time before the civil war ,with the majority of the taxes going to the Northern states . The Southern States rebelled against this tyranny , it's not hard to figure out that the North became vehemently opposed to slavery ,when the Southern States decided to form the Confederacy .
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It's so amazing to me that the same people who say "We need to keep history alive" when talking about the Confederacy will turn around in an instant and say "They need to move on." when asked about slavery.
Totally agree, that women is as dumb as a box of rocks . Trump must feel comfortable .
The struggle for Black people continues . God help these Stupid people , to see themselves 😢
very well said.
They dont deny that they are hypocrites. They will justify what you said by saying black people aren’t equal. Therefore they can be hypocrites towards them
@@uPSIDEdOWN577 Personally I don't think the answer to why they are like this boils down to something as simple as "They're racists."
I'm sure most of them really do believe it's "Heritage, not hate." And they just don't want to have to face evidence to the contrary.
@@Knightstruth That's the definition of racism. They defend a heritage of thinking themselves superior to black people. They don't consider it "hate" because they're not hanging people, but to find another member of your species racially inferior qualifies as hate, especially with the acting out of battles fought to own said people, ergo, racism.
"Get over it!" says someone who's still obsessed about losing a 150-year war.
@Confederate Bullets you heard them . did they st-st-stutter ? 🥴
@Confederate Bullets what are you calling me her for ?
@Confederate Bullets you're excused
@Confederate Bullets But only 1 kind of idiot
@Confederate Bullets learn something new everyday eh?
The issue I have seen with this is that the Confederate ancestors want to hang on to the past of their heritage but at the SAME TIME they expect Blacks/African Americans to forget their ancestors and move on, well the issue at hand is dead ancestors on both sides and expecting one side to just accept that their race was essentially dismissed in the history and emotions of their family loss while the other side EXPECTS everyone else to accept the bad nature of the history of this war. So Blacks/African Americans are supposed to and expected to forget their history so the Confederates can celebrate the losing and treasonous history of their heritage and everyone is supposed to just accept their heritage. The hypocrisy is deep!
I think what we saw at Congress in January of 2021 is more than recent proof and confirmation that these people are all either out of touch, bigots, or both.🤠
@@mattrussillo4587 Not sure how anyone would think that the January 6th incident(s) are in comparison to the blatant disregard of the historical impact that one side "sees" while ignoring the other sides view of the Confederate Flag racial implications raised by this film. This film was made prior to the incident(s) of January 2021 so not even sure how this is something to be brought up in the grand scheme of the conversation because that didn't happen until 2 years after the fact of this film
@@rohbjennings Wow, u said a mouthful, I couldn't have worded that any better I applaud you 👏👏👏
Very well said! 👏
Indeed
The Civil War was not fought over slavery. It was fought over states rights and the high tariff that the north were charging the South. Before the War started, Abraham Lincoln told the South, you can keep your slaves, but we're going to charge you higher tariffs. Lincoln also said, if I could win this war by freeing all the slaves I would do it and if I could win this war by freeing no slaves I would do it. So there you have both sides, the northern and southern states proving the Civil War was not about slavery. Slavery was the worst thing that ever happened to America. But it is still going on in many countries today. Africa is one of the biggest slave continents in the world still today.
The Civil War did not end segregation. US forces were still segregated in WW2.
Yeah but it ended slavery
@@kenm1167 No. In fact it did not. The name was simply changed to sharecropping.
@@DavidWilliams-so2dy Now it's called incarceration.
@@carlosrodgers2474 🙄
@@DavidWilliams-so2dy Technically not slavery, but honestly not far off.
I truly boggles keep why most people feel like when slavery ended blacks were truly free. It’s like walking around for years with your eyes closed.
You will never be free, because you will not let go of your victimhood (which cripples you) and go out and do anything for yourself. So long as you keep whining, no one is ever going to respect you and you will never run out of excuses to give life a half ass effort.
WHITE POWER Clayton Bigsby
I think all of those Union boys who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the new freedom slaves were granted would say that they did the best they could at the time. And that they had nothing to do with how African Americans were treated in the south after the war. And would probably say it's not their fault that for the last 70yrs African Americans were enslaved mentally and manipulated into voting for the party that originally enslaved them to begin with. Boom
Because being "woke"
@@MrKeni420 Go woke, stay broke brother.
No race of people, in the history of the world, has EVER whined themselves into prosperity.
But keep doing what you are doing. Surely, you will be the first.
The war was over rich white southerners convincing the poor white southerners that the war was really about them. If someone in the south had enough slaves and money they were exempt from fighting. Poor people who had poor education forced and fooled into fighting a battle that wasnt theirs to fight. It's a shame of how many people never read a history book in live in simple denial of these facts. It's also sad that many people probably didnt know these facts until this video.
Wow.The parallels are astonishing. What you just described is the exact same thing that's happening now,with Trump,the rich Republicans and the low iq,low class trailer park maggots.
Damn, your Statement is Gospel.
3700 blacks owned over 12,000 slaves. It wasn't just rich white men. Slavery has been around since the dawn of time and embraced by almost every culture. Do you think the south invented slavery? And where do you think they got those slaves from?
Be thankful you live in a country that fought a war to end it.
The King of England...wants his subjects back home. British Florida and BRITISH Georgia.... 🗡️🇺🇸🗡️🇬🇧
@@thepitpatrol People being dehumanized, demoralized, tortured, maimed, deprived to reach their full potential. Children being torn from the breast’s of their mothers, toddlers being used as alligator bait, branded, castrated, tarred and feathered. People being made to sleep with their sisters, brothers, cousins, mothers and fathers, used as furniture, worked until their tendons are detached from their muscles.
Generationally being told that people who look like you, have no culture, never built a civilization, you are dumb, ugly, cannibalistic savages ho come from a land of darkness and backwardness and you have no soul because you are pure evil and your ancestors were all Satan worshipers that needed to be saved by a white Jesus.
No, the south did not invent slavery but their nation practiced the worst form of slavery the world has EVER KNOWN! The only other system that comes close was the Arab slave trade of Africans and some Europeans that they enslaved. FYI, many of those black slave owners, owned their family members and not other Africans.
You should be grateful that African people are fierce warriors and forced the hand of the few whites that helped to abolish chattel slavery here in the USA. African people and their unrelenting resolve and fight for freedom created the conditions for the Civil War to be fought in the first place. African people built these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Without the African you or anyone else in this modern world we live in now would not live so comfortably. You’re welcome!
I'm a UK citizen and a child of Jamaican migrants to the UK. England had it's own civil war(s) between 1642 - 1649, and there are small scale reenactments of these battles across the country every year. One of the differences between these and the American civil war reenactments is, very few people in the UK identify with either side. The split was Parliament vs the King and his supporters. Re-enacting a battle is therefore not such a strange thing, from a UK perspective. The American civil war cannot be considered without reference to what each side was fighting for. The consequences of that war had outcomes which resonate through the generations down to today. The stories Americans choose to tell themselves about this war, seem to be so different, both from each other and sometimes from reality, that it's not difficult to see why they are so divisive. It's telling to see how, many white southerners have no concept of why black Americans would would find these parades distasteful. Perhaps one day these affairs will become as inoffensive as their English counterparts but I think that is some way off.
Ummm very few people identify with either side here too.😂 You obviously just got your info from mainstream media and or the internet.😂 Ive lived in NY, Florida and Texas. Nobody cares or identifies just a minority and even then dont lie and say there is no sentiment to who were the good guys in your civil war.
These reenactments or I should say reimagining of the civil war these white supremacists are doing would never become inoffensive when it comes to African Americans it should never be funded by our tax paying dollars and to boot there reenactments is basedoff of myths and untruths when it came to the reason why the South wanted to succeed from the nation and it was purely because they wanted to keep the institution of slavery alive and well period. So you are comparing apples to oranges
The saddest thing about the English Civil War of Charles I is that there were no righteous participants.
Just about everybody had their heads up their _____ IMHO.
I was rooting for the Levelers, but they were ignored.
They are British subjects. The YT Supremacists and YT saviour's here in British AMERICA are descendants of the trash the Great King's. Kicked out..but don't worry..they are being kicked out of British America Colonies.. because they have a severe shortage of Anglo-Saxon'ancestry in the United Kingdom. ... Justice is gonna be sweet...when KING Charles 3 sees his subjects.... walking around the fancy parts of London England... LoL. They ain't no Southerners..they are British subjects.... LoL.
@afrocentricalion ,
perhaps the problem is that they see themselves as blacks rather than simply Negro people. In that way they continuously keep themselves separated. I know no Caucasians that constantly tell others that they are white.
"Historians say everything was fine 'til the North came down." Oh, please. I'm from the deep South, and I cannot fix my mouth to say that stupidity. Will humans ever get a clue about how to treat each other?
Never and that’s the problem
He's not wrong. Historians really do say that. Some of them even think "the south will rise again."
Most of us have. A born southerner and current Texan
The war of northern aggregation new Hampshire here
@Melissa Faye They did!!! Do you not know that only slaves in the south were released!!?? REALLY!!! President Grant kept his slaves and is quoted saying, "Good help is hard to find!". THAT was his reason! General Lee freed his slaves...AND MOST STAYED! EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! The first President was a Black Man!!! You do not know what you do not know!! Nor do I,...but at least I investigate, so I don't make an uneducated statement like YOU did!!!
Why did they keep their master’s
Last name? How about because their children and loved ones were SOLD away from them? The name would be a way to find your loved ones. The insensitivity is astounding.
Annnnnnndddd because our native African names were blotted out, and still to this day any Black person with a African name (or on that sound African) is discriminated against by white and black people.
Thank you, many of the children of men have harden there hearts and can’t understand. They took everything; but only Yahweh will make all things right; in the fullness of time 🕊
PSALM 83:1-5,
Deuteronomy 28:14
1619-2019 payed in full
May you have eyes to see…🕊
Yes and this is terrible. But let’s not forget that AFRICA sold them to the USA. AFRICA needs to have the real blame for SLAVERY!!
@@Wisdomslight Yahweh is dead, man.
We get told to get over it but they keep reenacting it
@@jamstagerablehis point is the hypocrisy and you know that. If they really want it to be in the past, then these reenactments.
Do you believe that a hatred of hood culture is the same thing as racism?
They are getting deported back to England. KING Charles 3 of England wants his subjects back. Criminals,and land thieves..just plain trouble makers.
Then may I suggest you stop attending the reenactments and you won't be reminded.
What does THEIR reenacting have to do with YOU getting over your entitlement mentality because your Great, Great, Great, Great Grandmother and Grandfather were a slaves? Whites, today, don't owe you ANYTHING for the conditions of your ancestors, over 150 years ago. MOST of us didn't even have relatives in the USA at that time. We're SICK of your complaining and looking for free handouts! Live like an American...like ALL of us have to do...or get the H-LL out if you're not satisfied with that!
One must keep in mind that most Americans from the era leading up to the Civil War had never travelled outside of their home state. Their down home sentiment ran very deep and strong.
Most were "poorly educated."
@@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 actually more people could read & do math & history & think for themselves than they can today. We may have technology but most are dumber than a box of rocks & couldn’t make it without someone else providing for them or stealing from there etc. You obviously have never read the books they read etc. plus most could survive on their own at a younger age than today.
@@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 no.. they were not poorly educated. They were educated extremely well for the work they were doing. If you are a farmer ur need for knowing anything else than farming was to absolut use in 1860s. U seen to forget that 1860 is not now. There were no phones, no internet and u hardly went more than a days ride away from ur farm.
Especially in colonial times. Those colonies operated like individual countries. Did you know it was illegal to be a Baptist or a Quaker in Virginia in the early 1700s? If you were anything other than a card carrying member of the Church of England (Episcopal in the US) you could get shot! George Washington was a staunch Anglican!
THEY are also all DEAD.
What is the excuse for this Redneck Renoseance'?
Being proud of where you are from is ok what is not is being ok or complacent with slavery.
Don't forget black tribes in Africa took slaves from other tribes that they went to war with and conquered then turned around and sold those slaves to Europeans
@@patriotiii4218 true however two wrongs don’t make a right.
@@brini206 I agree 100% with you what do you have to say about the Democrat Party being the party of the KKK the party that started the Jim Crow laws the party that fought so hard to keep integration from happening you can go online and watch Joe Biden when he was a Senator saying that he did not want integration to happen because he did not want his children going to school in a jungle the Democrat Party is the same party that encourages the black woman in the 60s to get the father out of the household so that they could get more government handouts which broke up the black family what about Joe Biden bragging about coming up with the 1994 crime bill act that locked so many young blacks up for long-term for petty crimes the Democrat Party is nothing but another name for the plantation they have never done anything for the blacks but they are starting to realize that blacks are waking up to what they have done that is why they are pushing so hard to allow immigrants from South America to come up here they need a new voting base because they realize they're losing the black voting base what are your opinions on that and I'm not looking for an argument I'm actually interested in what you think about those things
Dont forget that the same elitists 👃👃 also took white slaves
@@LukeLovesRose there's a small hat around every corner
They lost the war more than 156 years ago, and they are still pissed! What part of their southern Heritage are they most proud of: Treason or Enslavement?
They as in democrats.
@@hyperdriveek7346 Ooh, isn't that precious; stupid and not a bit embarrassed. So precious! (NOTE: The Democratic Party had a seismic shift with the Election of FDR in November,1932 The Democratic Party in Lincoln's Day, was the Party of the South, while the Republican Party of Lincoln was the Party of the North and of anti-slavery. LOOK IT UP!)
@@StevenTorrey I have looked it up and you are wrong if it was true then why was it Biden himself that didn't want his kids going to a school with blacks, and at the time of the marches with MLK the democrats are the ones that wanted to keep segregation and keep blacks on their own side of the tracks?
You tell me to look it up I say get someone to help you read! You can't rewrite history to fit your narrative!
@@hyperdriveek7346 Your statement--"They as in Democrats"--was worthy of fourth grader, hardly explaining anything and leaving no real idea what you meant. And this response is still not very clear. Write a coherent paragraph, and then get back to me.
@@StevenTorrey When you learn to read it may be helpful for understanding what I posted.
I think that they should reenact Nat Turner's Rebellion while they're at it. I'm very sure that the "kids" would enjoy that as well! It's a wonderfully rich historical event that deserves a spot in their festival. Please pass along the suggestion.
In the meantime; The Good Lord Bird is a good depiction of Turner ...love Ethan Hawke
Let's do it
Nat turner was a fictional character
Bellafonte Johnson wow, I did not know that. I wonder how they got actual pictures of him, so many primary document accounts, period eyewitness testimonials, and fooled all those historians into believing it was true.
Rev John Brown a true freedom fighter.
I’m a WWI “buff” and as I was watching this I tried to imagine Germany staging a re-enactment. Head slap, they did! It was called WWII!
Most German reenactors go to Holland or Belgium to do events. There is a very good German equipment museum where 90% of the exhibits and owners are German.
Omg the guy that said if slavery was so bad why did they keep their owners last name has me just like wow straight up unbelievable
These people are insane and in denial. The civil war was about the freeing of slaves, the fact that there was an underground railroad that led to upper Canada, now known as the province of Ontario is proof. Even museums exist in Chatham Ontario and freedom towns were found in Toronto.
Yes, finally got one white person on camera too admit to that shit.😅😅😅
I noticed that too. I guess you can't cure stupid.
@tommoosekillerlife9203,
That's a good question. Why did they take their owners last name ?
Jackson being a prime example.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the average weight of a reenactment is higher today than in the actual war. But, not the IQ.
When you take a people who had to learn to survive by any means necessary and to strive into the people that we are today, that's where your high IQ , but people want to base that on your education what does not give you a high IQ only a well-rounded educational objective, but when you learn how to survive with nothing that takes a a lot of thought in process and smartness
Why would any African-American want to attend anything like, s*** you know like I know you will stay the hell away from those devils, they don't come and let you now they just do it in a constructive way, they will deny you things mistreat you hold you up with red tape all those things are being done right in your face, being pulled over and scrutinized by the law when you haven't done a damn thing those are the things that they do all over the world but never ever f*** with this out because the south is the worst and not liberal
@@treuky IQ are for slaves, truth are free thinker, truth matter
@@treuky Smartness? I'm going to guess you're from Mississippi or Alabama? And you're over 55 for sure.
@@ryannath85 Smartness is a legitimate word. It's in the Cambridge English Dictionary. Here's one for ya. When did Anton Bruckner write the 2nd version of the Adagio to his 3rd Symphony. Just proving the point that Southerners aren't stupid or lack culture.
The average age of a Civil War soldier was 25.
Generals such as Stonewall Jackson, John Bell Hood, Joshua Chamberlain and George B. McClellan were only in their mid 30s.
The confederate army had little boys as young as 12 fighting that war. A bunch of freezing cold scared little boys. I agree they were all young.
As a "Yankee" I have had the privilege of visiting and staying in the south when I was younger. North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. I love the difference in culture that exists within our National borders. Obviously there is a bit of southern history that I personally can't truly understand and that's okay. As much as I love the south and as important as history was to the culture, it is just that. History, it's okay to embrace it but In order to move forward the focus should be on a better future and that goes for all of America and the rest of our world.
Would it be okay for the German to reenact naziism? You're silly.
Either you want to go fishing together or you don't. Don't give a s*** what you come from
Yankee is not a word I think that will help anything. I say we sing Our songs together. Thank you for understanding
For goodness sakes you're quite a typist
@@chrispeacock9414 that's my ignorance of historical meaning and for that I apologize if I've offended you. At the end of the day we are Americans and even more , Humans. I have no hate for anyone.
The problem is not reenacting the past. The problem is the Superiority complex they still have in them today!
This is bullshit. There is no "superiority" present.
There will always be nut-jobs on both sides of any issue.
@@uralbob1 the white standard of wealth and religion is what rules this country. They call living to those standards American* and patriotic*. They SET the tone of what it is to be American. And because this is their life they don't even recognize it. Someone has to point it out to them.
The news media tells them everyday that they are superior and have a privileged life.
@Daryl Mixan 100% agree with you.
@@uralbob1 Yep, southern and poor family over our entire history of being in the U.S. But my Dad overcame, had a middle class career, and we've taken advantage of what this country offers "peasants' in opportunities to move up.
Absolute best line in the entire film:
"Yes, we're glossing over the blood and the gore, and the starving, and the 'unwashed masses' and all of that - but if we reenacted that, it would be fun for ANYBODY!"
So much for "historical accuracy".
Just sayin'.
It’s all “Fake News” anyway to which anyone with a functioning brain responds, “No, it’s “Flake News” conjured up by flakes.”
And people wonder where the anti-science, anti-obvious-fact disease comes from . . . start with the Lost Cause and add in crazed literal fundamentalism. A brew of toxic denial which would detach anyone from reality.
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Canadian here. I live about 3 miles away from Battlefield Park in Stoney Creek, Ontario where every June a re-enactment takes place of the War of 1812 battle of the British (us) vs. the Americans. This year some aboriginals were added to the mix, as they fought on the side of the British. The war lasted 2 years, and changed next to nothing except for the devastation of farms around London Ontario and thousands of the refugees coming to my city of Hamilton for relief. When will we learn that no one wins in war?
@@user-gg8pw8wz6oCanada here,,, 1812 the USA had a much bigger army than we did. But even with that, French Canadians, english Canadians and Indians fend off much bigger armies. When the USA sued for peace they had enough warring that put USA into recession, except mass. mas#. Chose not to participate. Those chose to continue business as usual with Canada. Perhaps Mass. Knew something the rest of USA didn't know.
@@user-gg8pw8wz6o please rewrite in english
Well, the USA was first to burn down a city. So that changed York, now Toronto. But after that we burned Washington, Buffalo and several other cities in USA. Lol they get pissed off in Buffalo if you talk that. My ex father in law from Buffalo doesn't like talking about it. I told him, USA was the first to burn a city.. He had no reply.
I am back here watching your amazing film again.....I just watched a clip of Trump supporters saying that Obama is to blame for racism in America.... because he's black! Seriously! So I returned to this film...this absolute perfect piece of documentary! It has occurred to me, recently, if a monument were to be erected to commemorate every African American who was murdered in the name of race (something like the Vietnam monument in Washington)....it would stretch for miles and miles! And, presumably, the records of most of them are still in existence, since the were "property"! Anyway, this documentary should be shown to every student in America....and beyond....thank you so much from a white man, from the UK who just wants equality and truth
Thanks for the kind words Ace. This truly is, as Gore Vidal put it, the United States of Amnesia. Peace.
@@markpgeorge 💯👍
I'm the descendant of one of Sherman's officers. I'm not one for pride in heritage. I think that the only things you should be proud of are ones that you can control yourself. That being said, if the south rises again I'd like to think I'd continue the family tradition of burning it down
Lol
Blue states Pay their bills! 🤦♀️
You are in the true tradition of Sherman. The opposite of glorifying war, he said, "War is Hell," wept after the deaths of his men in one battle, but did what was necessary to make sure the South could no longer wage war. "The proper object of practising military training is not in order that men may enslave those who do not deserve slavery, but in order that first they may themselves avoid becoming enslaved to others"--Aristotle
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Ah yeah
50:35
Why did you keep your masters last name?
Our history, culture and traditions, before arrival in America, were stripped from our ancestors memories through years of terror and fear. Our ancestors who arrived in America from the motherland were terrorized when they spoke in their native tongue. So that fear created a system were people did not use their native tongue, Instead they used the language they would not be punished for.
We didn't keep the sinful slave masters last name, we adapted the names that we were accustomed to hearing. Most slaves were born in America and never had any knowledge of their ancestry before America. So how can you call yourself by a name that you have never heard.
I goes by toby
Last names are European thing also it's easy to tell your history verbally Native Americans have done it Africans still do it over there in that country they chose to forget their own history why do you think Europeans didn't take Native Americans as their slaves throughout this continent because Native Americans would put up a fight and would rather die Africans were happy that they did not have to look for their food risk being killed everyday in the bush as well they did not have to fight to get a woman in their tribe they were given a Woman by their Master to breed with they realize they had a hell of a lot easier life here then they did where they came from
@@patriotiii4218 Hello PIII.
Is it your position that Africans were saved from being African and afforded a better quality of life under the loving arms of European land owners?
@@Still-Learning I didn't say they wanted to come here I said living here is more comfortable things were given to them that they did not have to work for I don't actually expect most people understand what I'm talking about as you read in history and you look at how tribes word you had to bust your ass especially if you wanted a woman life was harder for them and while yes some slaves did get beat they all did not give me they took out insurance policies on slaves slaves cost a lot of damn money they actually cost more than white slaves did the insurance company would send an adjuster out to see if try to make a claim what happened to the slave if you are injured it they did not pay out and I'm talking about back then in the 1700 1800 slave costing $10,000 then which was a hell of a lot more then what $10,000 is today the point is they didn't get treated like shit you don't buy a piece of farm equipment that cost you $300,000 which is about the equivalent of $10,000 back then and leave it in the field to get rusty I'm not saying that they should have been slaves I'm saying that they didn't get mistreated like they tell you all the time in your history books written by the white Democrats
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I think 'jackass' suits you better.
20:00 Go back to wherever you came from? That would include you too! 😂😂😂
So true! 🙌🏾
The Vikings were here first n they were white
It's impossible to go "home" when you don't know the address.
@@angusowens2411 wtf all you people know are lies
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One of my co--workers in Florida was a transplant from New Jersey and a Civil War re-enactor on the Union side. His fellow local re-enactors in FLA were extremely delighted to have him join their group because they all wanted to be on the Confederate side. Apparently, unlike the "real" Civil War "JOHNNY REBS " were in abundance but "BILLY YANKS" were in very short supply.
20:10 “if you don’t like this country, leave it” while celebrating the confederacy that seceded from the US
Sometimes, things need to be done.
It’s a free country! You can act out and believe WHATEVER YOU WANT! So yea if you don’t like it leave it. If they can have gay pride 🏳️🌈 parades and LBGTQ events and people walk around thinking they are a cat. Then they can act out a war or love the confederate flag! You don’t like it leave it 🤷🏼♂️👍
@@HONDA87200X sure they can go preach hate if they want what gets me is they call themselves Christians I guess there the kind that use the Bible as a weapon something that should free man kind they use it to enslave go ahead and preach hatred slavery and never see the evil in the way you think there is one type of race that's the human race go ahead preach your hate against your brother it just amazing that you see no wrong in burning a pregnant black woman find out she is still alive so slice open her belly and the baby alive falls stomp the baby till it dies that's only one of the lynching that happened in the if you think it's all right to celebrate actions like that I can only call you a very evil person and all others who do the same and trust me the Bible is deeply against such things and the only Bible that supports those actions is the satanic Bible so go ahead go preach your hate and evil but Don't think you are doing God's work are good work at all and please just except the fact that you are a deeply flawed evil person because any intelligent human who sees such things only sees evil humans preaching evil things
Umm yes when the government becomes that tyrannical states have the right to succeed! Not the same thing.
@@HONDA87200Xif they have an issue with Pride month or Black History Month, why don't they leave?
Mark George please explain this:
During the war between the states, when the Union Army arrived at Jackson Mo. the ranking officer decided they would take the best for their headquarters so happens it was the home of Nathaniel W. Watkins.
In the middle of winter and snowing, Watkins and his family was given 3 hours to take what they wanted and clear out. They packed up and moved to their working farm near Morley Mo. from where he sought the return of his property. The Jackson Mo. residence was valued at $56000 in 1870, that's over a million dollars today.
Watkins held many offices in and out of government and was in the national guard, a veteran of the war of 1812 and the Mexican War. Right before the Civil War he was promoted to General in the Confederate Army, but when he knew that war was near he resigned his post, siting he didn't want to destroy missouri but only wanted to preserve it.
Watkins talked to different people in the government and got a Congressman to deliver a letter to President Lincoln. Lincoln told the Officer to return the old man's property, even this didn't have any effect, as the Officer didn't respect Watkins because he had been, in his eyes a rebel or sympathetic to the rebel cause.
Watkins continued to live on the Morley property with his family and was visited by the Army again, this time they took horses, mules, stock and it was noted that they didn't even leave a single saddle BUT ALL THE SLAVES WERE LEFT and sometime either before or after Watkins death in 1876 the Union Army torched the Jackson home. The Morley farm or Beechland as Watkins called it, was valued at $35000 in 1870, that's over $600,000 today.
Beechland, was named for the abundance of beechtrees that made the harvesting farm / plantation possible.
Today the old plantation is owned by the Missouri department of Conservation and is open to hunting, hiking, camping and fishing.
You can find places throughout the woods where Mrs. Watkins planted flowers that bloom to this day, I saw some starting to pop up just the last week and there's a few mighty beech trees still alive that witnessed all this history.
References:
files.usgwarchives.net/mo/scott/cemeteries
A viewer readable ebook- OLD WAYNE:
A Brit’s Memoir By Cletis R. Ellinghouse.
The ordeal of twenty-year-old schoolteacher Sarah Pauline White, sentenced in 1864 to confinement at hard labor in the state penitentiary for the duration of the Civil War for writing a letter to a rebel soldier, was one of several painful experiences
And other various Internet sites.
Most folks only want to know enough history to support their anemic arguments.
Andy, what exactly are you asking me or your point? Also, I'm wondering if you'd be willing to come on my little podcast and talk about your criticisms of the video? Just let me know. Peace and love to you and yours.
Is the point that Lincoln was a good guy and the officer a bad guy?
You might 've heard that wars bring out the worst in people sometimes, it doesn't prove the south or north were the "good guys".
And it even happens that in a armed conflict there are no good sides.
I'd like to advise you the following: try to be as critical of "your side" as possible if you root for a side in an armed conflict.
That helps to avoid getting an oversimplified view of important things.
A "county judge"? I wonder how his participation in this charade affects his "impartiality" on the bench.
A great deal of people in authority buy the lie.
Not any more than leftist activist judges.
Yeah, wouldn't want to be a Yankee in HIS court... lol. Give me a break. This documentary draws too much of a correlation between reenactments and subverted southern history.
What planet are you on? There is no such thing as an "Impartial" judge. Look at the Supreme (example) Court.
@@williamanthony9090 Okay, Cousin Vinny.
I'm African American. I went to the Battle of Honey Springs re-enactment, in Rentiesville, OK, one year and I really enjoyed it. It took me back in time. I felt no racism there. I like Civil War history.
You might have missed the point Gregory....... Peace and love to you friend.
The white American conservative rascists are hands down the best at trying to hide their racism. Notice I use the word "try", because racism can never be truly hidden. If you were a slave for even one day, you would wake up. These people are not your friends.
@@markpgeorge nope he didn't, at some point the south allowed black people to join their army.
@@markpgeorge kudo's for the docu btw, I subscribed to your channel.
@@BolleZijde As their "property" BolleZidje.....
"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do it." -Abraham Lincoln August 1862
+The Wanderer
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Finally someone telling the truth.
This is in the documentary
Doesn’t really matter what a politician says does it? all that matters is what they choose to do when the time calls for it.
The difference between a politician and a statesman. Lincoln grew to believe slavery really did need to be wiped out. A lesser person might not have thought so.
people will share this quote while trying to defend the Confederacy and not realize that they just showed that the USA is racist to the core
Mr George.
This is a quality documentary that deserves a larger audience, than the youtube algorithm has so far supplied, have you tried PBS?
Teach true history
Ken Burns, the Civil War. 9 hours. Masterpiece.
@@randolphwashington9530 Ken Burns, the Civil War. 9 hours. Masterpiece.
Censorship 101 ? Aren't we supposed to be learning our history and challenging it ? Not deleting it ? What gives ?
thank you
What gives what? Idont understand what you are questioning no one said it be deleted, it will be in all learning text books
What are you trying to say Cliff?
It will never be deleted because its forever in the history books. I think romanticizing about the Civil war speaks a lot about the overall moral of whites and their lack of empathy for blacks and the whites who died and went to hell. That’s what this video seems to portray.
@@jt3409 I agree, remembering or learning history doesn't have to include hot dog stands and cotton candy or flag waving.The denial in these folks doesn't change what they are denying.
I always thought this is one of the sickest things that we could teach our children. I’m now 74 years old .they had shows on like, the gray ghost and branded. Trying to homogenize it . who sponsored it? You name it. Tobacco companies, Coca-Cola, etc. etc. Like the collapse of every other society, People can’t let go of the past and eventually the society collapses. I followed the history of the Civil War. I read about Grant and Lee. I’ve been to the legit museums through Tennessee and Virginia. It was a horrible, devastating war. Nobody survived it. That’s why we are at this juncture.
“Nobody survived”, I think that’s going a bit far.
@@flashgordon6670I agree..I think that is ridiculous..
Today’s Southerners should not be bullied into carrying the yoke of guilt around their necks for the criminality and villainy of their Democrat ancestors.
But what people do not want to talk about is that people were aligned with the Republican or Democrat party as being a northern did not automatically make you an abolitionist nor being a southern made you pro slavery. It was your belief system & many families & friendships were broken over what they believed not where you lived. The Republican Party was started by people who were abolitionist & wanted to stop slavery where the Democrat party believed that slavery should be kept.
They are getting deported back to England. King Charles 3 wants his subjects back. They have a severe shortage of Anglo-Saxon'ancestry in the United Kingdom. Revenge is gonna be WELCOMED. LoL...
"Go back to wherever you came from!" 🤣🤣🤣 Why is that ALWAYS the go-to response of the deficient? Then, without fail, they follow it up with, "but I'm not a racist" , lol smh... I'll bet her "best friend is Black" too. Such a sad existence.
Also, she seems to ignore and not accept that the south lost, she should just get over it 🤣
@@ianmcbride412 Yea, that's always the odd thing about it. "Get over it" from folks staging re-enactments of battles in a war (over the very system they tell Black people to forget about) that they LOST over a century ago... just to make themselves feel better. Ain't that peculiar?
@@monteblanc1622 very odd indeed, I just wonder about what their reaction would be if there were union carpet bagger re-enactors reminding them of their loss, telling them to get over it or else go back to where you came from, 😃,
Very odd and quite neurotic,,,
She's the village idiot. The best part of her daddie ran down her mama's leg.
I don't think that statement is racist. I don't care if your black, white, brown ect, if you don't like the area you live in, why would you continue to live in that place?
Wow, that one guy who asked , if slavery was so bad why did my ancestors keep the slaveowners name.
I was born in the South and I've lived here all my life, but I can't reconcile the way Southerners have acted all these years. And it's STILL going on! What will it take for our people to realize that this issue came to a head in the 1860s, a war was fought, and the South LOST. But they just won't let the War end. It's STILL going on, and it's like a cancer that consumes us all, no matter how we feel about it. States rights ... a blanket term that includes many issues ... virtually ALL of which have to do with RACE. No one can deny that. In the 1860s, states rights involved being allowed to keep people enslaved. In the 1950s and '60s, when I was growing up in Mississippi, states rights was all about "our children not having to go to school with THEM." This documentary taught me so much ... thank you. I just wish we didn't NEED to know all of this.
You mean to tell me that's a brutal suffering of our black people ancestors was okay
Is state rights just about states having the right to oppress people as they see fit? Why not have Civil reenactments that give the experience of ALL groups of people that fought in the war? What about the many indigenous tribes that fought for the south or the north? Or the black people who fought?
I hear Europe or Russia is a good place for racist
Well, Robert. Move.
@@thepitpatrolRight because America is built upon hypocrisy. The constitution did state the negro was 3/5 human so why should any negro expect respect. Why should any Caucasian empathize? It’s the law of the land. If one doesn't like it. One should leave, post haste!
It's definitely important to remember and preserve history, even the ugly side. Such as in Germany where the Concentration Camps still stand. Preserve and learn for future generations.
Do you think we actively distort and rewrite history Dan?
@@markpgeorgeWe definitely distort and rewrite history. And we attempt it alot more than it succeeds. Look at the 1619 project. Look at all the statues that were torn down. They even tore down a historic Fredrick Douglas statue.
@@andypbj267the Douglass statue was torn down by two drunk college students who were attempting to steal it to keep as their own possession. Both of them were charged and saw repercussions for it as well.
@@itisjustmeagain That was the 2018 statue. I'm talking about the one in 2020 during the riots.
@@markpgeorge it is definitely being black-washed
"Slavery was on it's way out" Yeah, tell that to the victims of the United Fruit Company plantations in Central America where slavery persisted for 100 years after the Civil WAr. The slavers had bigger plans, look up the "Knights of the Golden Circle"
There are very distinct shadows of slavery in our cultural approach to wage workers. I can explain further, but anybody who is interested can see it.
modern military power has created more slaves than ever. the gap between rich and poor has never been greater.
That's a major problem with capitalism, greed before need, the greed of the company over the needs of the workers.
@@timper4326 so just at a glance at communism, you think it better to remove all Land and purchasing power of the citizen (#you) and let the ruling class do whatever they want with the spoils of their labor. They drink from crystal and we drink from a paper cup. They sleep in airconditioning while if there is a power shortage we sleep in the heat. Capitalism isn't bad , you can rise up through hard work and become wealthy but your choices have to be smart not foolish. You won't get that chance with any other government. It's true the rich/poor gap is like the grand canyon but we should have paid closer attention to the corruptions of our elected officisals, now we need a Escape from L.A. scenario.
@@stuartewoldt1513 You clearly don't know what communism is, because there's a difference between authoritarian dictatorship disguised as communism, and actual communism. Historically authoritarian dictatorships have co-opted the communist party "ideas" then under that guise, rose to power as a "working class" party, then immediately dumped everything but the name. To keep ignorant poor co-signing a party for elitist rich dictators.
The literal meaning of communism is removing the means of production from the rich single owners, and placing it into the hands of the people actually providing the labor.
If you think that business owners provide the bulk of of labor for the industries they operate in, you're delusional.
The "Lost cause" myth needs ended. The confederacy had nothing noble about it. The confederate army was very much from the middle ages in that a wealthy land owners formed units from the poorer classes, much as nobles compelled their serfs to join their units. They were fighting to preserve slavery not states rights. The southern states wanted the right to to go into other states, that did not allow slavery, and seize escaped slaves or people they thought were escaped slaves and then extradite them back to the southern states without legal cause, warrants or any judicial review. There is nothing great about the confederacy or it's legacy.
I read somewhere about the Knights of the Golden Circle. It’s the plan the south had to expand their slave states and capture new slaves. Very interesting ☮️♥️👵🏼
We lost the Vietnam war too…when are the auditions for that reenactment?
Am afraid they won't have many takers on that part of history too much PTSD and we really don't want to go there. Amen
Just remember. Vietnam was Communism riding on the wave of Nationalism. We lost Nam to Commies. The president of Singapore said the the US held off Communism for almost 20 years, giving the area a chance at eliminating poverty. It did. Look at it now. Look at Vietnam as a battle in the Cold War. We won.
Dear child if you have actually been in the shit you don't want or need any reminders and you sure hell don't want to reenact it.
@@jameswilliams3241 i think that was her point.
We left Vietnam after a treaty was signed. The north broke treaty we choose not to go back in because the south vietnamese govt was incompetent and corrupt
I've been to the south a few times for business. I just don't like being there for a number of reasons. I'm sure many of the engineers I met with were convinced I shared their racist views and the hatred that goes with them. I can't even believe how many times I heard "I'm not a racist but..." Celebrating slavery is not for me.
Yes. I think you’re right about the engineers. I’ll never forget this one guy I came across. I deliver (UPS type), and so does this guy, for another company. We’re both waiting for something in the same general area, and it’s MLK day. Scene set; we don’t know each other At All. Dude comes up to me and starts calmly complaining about having to work on “N” Day, and …. etc. etc. the most vile openly racist spit that possibly be said! I didn’t even say anything. All the while, as this thick southern accent is whining about “them”; I’m thinking to myself, “Is this just how it is there?” I mean this guy was just nonchalant. Didn’t even say hi - just started spewing hateful rhetoric to a fellow white guy, as if it’s all cool. 🤨
The reason you kept hearing it is because you didn't put a stop ro it the first time. They took your silence as complicity. Perhaps you were meeting for business and didn't want to mess up your money or relationship but if you seem comfortable with the ignorance they will continue to display it
@@user-os1yg3zl6i or maybe it’s not his job to police everyone’s speech. Maybe he should have just started beating his ass while yelling “speech = violence!”. Maybe it’s now your duty to now track down the man he’s talking about and bring him to Justice and by not doing so you are complicit and basically a member of the KKK.
They don't see themselves as celebrating slavery (since the lost cause myth has scrubbed slavery out of their reasons to fight). I would be interested to hear what their responses would be, if four black Americans approached them saying, "hey, this looks cool. We want to play! What can we do?"
The answer to that question might expose how much of their 'heritage' they're embracing.
Then don't come back. I've been up north and heard far more black racist names then I ever have heard down south
I'm all for it. We should reenact every battle and make sure the South never forgets that they lost the war and the unjust cause they fought for. Rub it in every chance you get and don't concede how brave they fought, because so did the Germans in North Africa, the Ardennes, and at Anzio.
You indoctrinated tard, the Democrat Party LOST the War, geography didn't. And no the Democrat Party learned nothing. They went from White Supremacists to Black Supremacists in less than 40 years. Democrats ran the KKK and BLM. Joe Bribem surrounded himself with huwhite supremacists in the 70s.
Keep screeching cupcake. Go watch a Lifetime movie.
Lol you seem bitter..
Pure cringe 😬
NOBODY Wants To Be Honest, Just Like Mormons That Have Come To My Door, Haven't An Answer For "How Come The Black Man Can't Hold Titles Of Any Power In Your Religion"??
Exactly. I asked them that too. And their need to be the chosen people so much so they created their own "prophet" & own bible. These people know there is nothing that screams "Christian" about them thus they became "Mormons". Doubt me? Read about the Mormon slaughter of innocents to steal the land because Brigham Young lied & said God ordered it. Fake wanna be Israelites. People absolutely love living their lives. Always have. Facts.
how does it feel to be so weak that something that NEVER happend to you 160 years ago offends you....
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@@dmkuchins6646 Some people take steps to improve their lives. Others make lists of reasons they can't.
@@RainbowLayer92 you mean like letting a re-enactment or a battle flag or some ones heritage hurt their feelings...those kind of people use those list of excuses all the time to not improve their lives....and then blame southerners for something like slavery that happend 160 years ago NOT to themselves mind you...none of these people complaining have ever been slaves or ever knew anyone who had ever been a slave...weakness...the ones complaining are comfortable with ALWAYS playing victim for attention...
those are the people who make excuses and refuse to better their lives
@@billybonz3691 I just remind them that most slaves in Africa were TRADED to Europeans by African tribal kings. They were already slaves before the whites showed up.
@@RainbowLayer92 exactly
My family on my Dad’s side left the South during civil war times, because they did not agree with Southern thoughts/ behaviors with slavery, and violence. When I began to research my family history, I learned a lot. They moved to the North, and never looked back.
It is shameful, and disgusting that people still cannot treat others with empathy. These folks that want to claim,” STATES RIGHTS,” completely ignoring those rights were owning slaves, need a history lesson. How can they continue to ignore the treatment of those who were enslaved? I will never understand.
north too.
Why tf would you want to reenact a loss??🤯
An excuse to escape from daily life.
STATES RAAAATS!
Because they're sore losers. Just like they are with Trump.
@@loreleilazuli8874 - only idiots support the 2 party paradigm.
@George Floyd is a thug I'm not a Democrat. Lol
“Get a life get over it” LMAO maybe she should follow her own advice, unbelievable…
@Clayton Phillips Hey Clayton, what did I ever do to you, the answer is nothing, what did you ever do to me, the answer is nothing, here is what really is going on = Keep hate alive, the fed reserve Bankster Puppet-Masters love it, it keeps everybody divided so they don't go after them, the real enemy of all people.
@Clayton Phillips No I understood exactly what ya meant, my point was to simply state what really is going on, the Puppet-Masters want nothing but to keep everybody divided, keep everybody hate'n on everybody, if everybody is always divided it keeps everybody too busy to Unite and go up against the real enemy of all people, BANKSTERS.
That woman was embarrassingly ignorant, but she also seemed like a person who is probably just not very nice in general. When you take the flippant attitude that any offense you cause is the other person's "problem," you aren't being appropriately mature and don't sound like a person with reasonable standards for your own behavior. It's sad (and potentially dangerous) when biological adults are this way.
@Melissa Faye The Real Enemy of ""ALL"" peoples is the Fed Reserve Banksters, keep everybody hate'n on everybody and pay no attention to the Puppet-Masters behind the curtain.
@Nautica NAUGHTY G Gibson There is ""NO"" such thing as an "African-American"" unless someone has migrated from Africa to the U.S. and gained citizenship, so the phrase African-American that you like to use would ""NOT"" even pertain to being black, there are White people from & in Africa, you are Indoctrinated to believe that blacks are perpetual Victims.
EVERYTHING we were warned about has come to pass.
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Europe is full of historic battles, even ww2
I defended peoples rights under the 1st Amendment to express themselves even though I do not support racism of any kind. But they have rights and when we let people tell us we can't do it, I say it's a protected right.
@patrick9821 should state tax dollars and "public" resources be used to "privilege" one form of "free speech" (one that actively distorts history)? I ask because that is what these events do......?
What do you mean by "one form of free speech?"
@@MrDeanmfitz One perspective limited perspective on the causes of the Civil War (again, instead of the State supporting and funding multiple takes on that war.).
@@markpgeorgeThat sounds like a very communistic, biased, propaganda driven way of thinking. Your point is no different to what your against
I don't support racism but I support the right to be and other other right to be a fool
This further explains why THEY DON'T WANT CRITICAL RACE THEORY taught !! 😳
Was just thinking that myself 💯
Fuck CRTrash
you know what critical race theory is? you might want to study up on that.
Yes, I know CRT is racist...
CRT is history.
“The South didn’t want to be owned by the North.”
Wow.
So,they knew how the blacks felt,they just didn't gave a crap..🤔🤔
And WHY would they?? Look at the U.S now Dumbass??
No, they wished to keep their finances in the status quo. Per capita Southern states were the richest in the nation. Owning slaves was part of that top financial position. Defending slavery was the reason the South started the war.
This dude has a lot of self hate going on and the film reflects this well. Sounds like someone who can't cope with their heritage. The most hateful person featured in this film was the director/narrator.
Hmmmmm,.....why do you think that Richard?
I think the professor that used the war in Cambodia as a perfect example of why people shouldn’t reenact any war,especially a war that is a part of such a depressing time in our history as a nation.War re-enactments make little sense, but I guess that’s just my opinion…idk..
No, it is mine too
Maybe reenactments may sound like a waste of time but I been on staff rides that studied battles from both sides and it was enlightening to learn about all that history.
Festival? Holding on to Racism. Denial of human/equal RIGHTS for BLACK AMERICANS. Period. The south LOST the war. They continue to Hold On to their Crude Unholy Thinking/way of life.God see & is WATCHING.
Well aren’t you glad nobody makes you participate? It’s good to know we can all mind our own business and do what we want without someone’s tender feelings can interfere with another’s heritage.
Southern reenactors always tend to look 3 times older and 3 times fatter than the historical counterparts. I guess this is why Tony Minghella used Romanian real life soldiers for the battle scene in Cold Mountain.
You must have read my mind 😂😂
@@mikeluke7417 Somebody needs to do some shaming on the sets of these reenactments, carrot or the stick therapy, bag of McDonald's or raw turnips and a paycheck. Or if they're volunteers free passes to the Jenny Craig meetups
@@andygossard4293 they could have colonel Sanders as military advisor🤣🤣 on a serious note! Who would be dumb enough to " celebrate" losing a war?🤡🤤
Ps. You definitely should not go as they may mistake you for candy floss🤣👏🍷
@@mikeluke7417The CSA should have first, built up a capable navy. 2. Struck a preferred deal w Europeans for textile/cotton, 3. signed emancipation laws and replaced the labor then figure out the alternatives. PS. their Virginia leadership was very capable.
Censorship is swift on this site, and very prejudiced says I. The right of free speech is dead in America. God help you, you will need it.🇦🇺
Crybaby
Shut the fuck up
No what we NEED is an end to RACISM crybaby!!
Facts is what revealed the truth.. the truth hurts when you know it's not right
@@azreznative what?
What Lincoln said there is they wanted to keep the power of their Union REGARDLESS if it freed or helped slaves in any way!! Again, the main reason was for power and control!!
The confederacy wanted the power to own humans
The war of northern aggression, that started with shots from the south...hmmmmm
A 2 party system that could freely vote lol the classic southern way is when you dont get your way treason
says the people who were holding the slaves at the time.
@@rjtheripper931 did you know that Union Gen US Grant had Slaves? Did you know that 4 Union States were slave states. Google DEVIL'S PUNCHBOWL IN VICKSBURG MISSISSIPPI and see what the North thought about slaves
Do you know where fort Sumter is? Maybe you can explain why Yankee military is in S. Carolina in a Confederate fort.
@UCmyzRtCuasb2KvbXmBWVHLA You idiot FT Sumter was a US fort . Just because the people in South Carolina stupidly decided to hijack their state from the federal government doesn't change the fact that it was a US fort
60 now and I don't recall ever sitting round discussing and reenacting the civil war. Originally from the north, the only thing, for a long time is what we were taught in school. Within the last 5 or so years I've been learning more on my own.
Winners will write they're own history
@@dennisgrubbs1929and they certainly did… what a shame too.
@@dennisgrubbs1929One thing that is not debatable:
Union 1
Confederacy 0
@@beedub93 yep - and still being subjected to the shit coming down from the North and I like the North
As a Southerner we have always had our meetings on how to be a good little confederate.
Never trust anyone who cites the "Southern Poverty Law Center " as a source.
As a white man from Alabama, fuck the CSA. Fuck the entire confederacy.
@@finejustgivemeaname watch your mouth son
@@Core-z2z haha. Come to bham and watch it for me, loser.
@@finejustgivemeaname Take it easy sir, this is RUclips not Grindr
@@Core-z2z Grindr? You’re the one talking about dudes’ mouths.
Never understood why the American South has existed for hundreds of years and out of all those years they pick out the 5 years they started and lost a war to keep black folks in chains and declare "THIS is our heritage!". Southerners, you guys have a LOT of heritage. You have points in history where you were the good guys and you won. You don't need to glorify those 5 years you were the villains.
To be fair, I must argue with Dr David Williams about re-enacting civil wars elsewhere. He was rather disingenuous to use the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia as an example. In the United Kingdom, thousands of people re-enact the English Civil War with fastidious detail and enthusiasm. On the other hand, I am fully eligible to join SCV - and have chosen not to do so. It took me many years to understand that reality and history were not the "Gone with the Wind" sentimental narrative we grew up with... 😣
They glorifying War
The English Civil War was very different from America's. It was royalist forces against parliamentarian forces. The latter won. There's no comparison with the US Civil War and the conflict was between two factions of what a Marxist would call the ruling class.
Yes the sealed knot society is the name of the reenactment group for the english civil war. This documentary was weak. So what if people want to do this for fun.
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@@georgekoscho4281 there are also Vietnam war era reenactments, and the D-Day WW2 reenactment is spectacular, held on conneaut Ohio...ppl will always talk about their last battles it's human nature.
Being as though I'm from Atlantic City NJ , To see a Confederate statue at a Court House is 🤯 .... There's no way Lady Justice is blind there. How would you EVER beat a speeding ticket let alone a criminal case?
To me , an American of African Descent , it seems as if the Statues & Flags are there to remind you of who is in charge. I would NEVER send my kids to college in the South.
Atlantic city should put up a statue of little nicky scarfo.
Lady justice is not blind. Just color blind. The only color she sees is green.
And we appreciate you not sending your kids to college in the South.We do not want anymore transplants down here, we have had enough the last year alone.
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You are absolutely correct. Those statues were put there to intimidate black people. To basically say,yeah we can't have you as slaves anymore,but we are still superior. We still have the power. And you better not forget it. Growing up in Louisiana as a child ,Those things were EVERYWHERE. You couldn't escape them. Some of them were gigantic. Before I was old enough to know better,I would ask my mom and dad who those men were.If I was with my dad,he would say,they was some bad men.Just don't worry your Lil heart about it. When I was with mama,she would tell me,Now You just don't pay that no mind. And don't ask again. You Hear Me.
In days of old, a tale unfolds,
A time of strife, the story goes.
The nation torn, divided strong,
A conflict fierce, enduring long.
In the midst of chaos, humor arose,
A funny poem about the Civil War, here it goes:
Once upon a time, in a land divided,
A war was waged, passions collided.
Brother against brother, it was quite absurd,
But let me share a tale with a funny word.
In the midst of cannons and muskets loud,
There was a soldier, both brave and proud.
With a twinkle in his eye and a jest to share,
He lightened hearts burdened with war's despair.
He'd tell a joke amidst the battle's roar,
Of generals and soldiers, their egos sore.
He'd say, "Why did the Confederate chicken cross the road?
To show the Union rooster he wasn't easily slowed!"
Laughter would spread like wildfire's glow,
Even in the darkest hours, it would show.
For in humor, they found a moment of peace,
A temporary respite, a much-needed release.
So, let us remember those days long past,
The tales of valor and humor that will forever last.
For amidst the darkness, a spark did ignite,
A funny poem that brought a smile, shining bright.
In the annals of history, it will forever be,
A reminder that laughter can set us free.
Through the trials and tribulations we face,
A touch of humor can bring solace and grace.
bravo, your poem provides the moment of which it speaks
@jaymanm7776
Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin crude.
Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.
Well the first thing you know ol Jed's a millionaire,
Kinfolk said "Jed move away from there"
Said "Californy is the place you ought to be"
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly.
Hills, that is. Swimmin pools, movie stars.
Well now its time to say good by to Jed and all his kin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality
Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?
@@John_Richardson_Meadows thank you.. I wish I could take full credit but I merely disseminated this poem.. I created it using the chatGPT 😁 by OpenAI.
Very nice rindishing of that... Thank you....
Although Mexico outlawed slavery in 1829, Texas, then a colony of Mexico, held onto its slaves. In fact, slavery was one of the causes of the revolution that led to Texas's independence in 1836. Texas was admitted to the United States in 1845 as a slave state and the number of slaves there increased exponentially.
The region of the Mexican state of Coahuila y Tejas, now commonly referred to as Mexican Texas, declared its independence from Mexico during the Texas Revolution in 1835-1836, when the Centralist Republic of Mexico abolished autonomy from states of the Mexican federal republic.
This treaty, signed on February 2, 1848, ended the war between the United States and Mexico. By its terms, Mexico ceded 55 percent of its territory, including the present-day states California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Oklahoma.
Twelve years later, Santa Anna's failed campaign in the Mexican-American War caused Mexico to cede half of its territory (50). He lost even more land to the U.S. in the 1853 Treaty of La Mesilla, a sale he personally benefited from while he was dictator (51).
Like other Mexican liberals, Juárez looked to the U.S. as a model of development for Mexico, while conservatives looked to Europe, especially France and Britain. When Santa Anna returned to power in 1853, many liberals went into exile in the U.S., including Juárez.
The war against the United States and the three years of civil war (War of Reform) left Mexico very weak. By 1861, Benito Juárez decided that Mexico was too poor to pay back its debts to Spain, England and France. When Mexico stopped paying, the European countries sent a joint army to Mexico to get their payment back.
By the late 1850s, years of internal strife had left the young republic of Mexico fractured and deeply in debt to Europe. Seeing an opportunity to expand the French Empire in the New World, Napoleon III invaded Mexico in 1862.
At least 2,500 Mexican Texans joined the Confederate Army. The most famous was Santos Benavides, who rose to command the Thirty-third Texas Cavalry as a colonel, and thus became the highest ranking Tejano to serve the Confederacy.
An estimated 20,000 Indian soldiers participated in the conflict, fighting for both sides. At the outset of the war, many nations in Indian Territory signed treaties with the Confederacy-supported by a minority of wealthy slave-holding Indians within their communities.
The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma had their own "Civil War" during the US Civil War.
The 1866 Reconstruction Treaties with "The Five Civilized Tribes" (Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Muskogee/Creek, Seminole) mostly resulted in USA vindictively seizing Indian Lands.
The Freedmen Blacks were supposed to be absorbed into each Tribe as citizens or Tribal Members, but not all Tribes followed this directive.
However, many "mixed" persons of Afro & Indian descent existed.
White census-takers tended to follow Dixie's "One Drop Rule" to assign Negro heritage only to these, though the term "Mulatto" was also used.
** "40 Acres & A Mule"
*** The Ebenezer Creek Massacre (near Savannah, GA) is not re-enacted. This was after General Sherman burned Atlanta, then marched Union troops toward Savannah.
Thousands of now Freedman Families followed the Union Army.
Sherman left the mass of Freedmen families at the Ebenezer Creek, then marched toward Savanah.
CSA troops & others had been shadowing Sherman's march, now attacked the mass of Freedmen, resulting in a panic of people jumping into the Creek to drown.
Deaths were anywhere from hundreds, to a thousand.
This resulted in Lincoln dispatching Secretary of War Stanton, and Gen Sherman using his wartime powers to issue his Special Orders #15, seizing coastal farmlands from South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida to the St Johns River... for up to 18,000 Freedmen Families, up to 40 acres of farmable land each.
When the US Army would have surplus mules, they would be donated also.
This massive seizure of lands, awarded to Blacks, set into motion the strategy of CSA surrender to set-up the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.
Andrew Johnson ascended to US President, then cancelled Special Orders #15. President Johnson did demand an Oath of Allegiance before returning lands back to whites.
Reconstruction: The Freedmen & Refugees Bureau to help build infrastructure for new Black communities, was abolished by US Congress without any reasons in 1872.
**** Compromise of 1877 was the election of the Dixiecrat Tilden as US President, pending a count of Electoral College votes.
A special panel of US Supreme Court Justices & US Senators convened, and made GOP candidate Rutherford B. Hayes the next US President by 1 electoral vote.
The Dixiecrats then threatened to filibuster the Inauguration, which at the time was required to occur by date of March 4th.
A compromise was reached to withdraw the federal occupation troops from the Dixie South.
Frederick Douglass was very quick to denounce the capitulation: "You have remanded the former slaves back to their masters!"
And Dixie was openly frank about not recognizing the US Citizenship of African Americans even with the Amendments to the US Constitution.
Way back in 1787, at the US Constitutional Convention, it was South Carolina slave owner Charles Cotesworth Pinckney who objected to Abolition in a first draft of the US Constitution.
The Yankees decided to Compromise with Pinckney, setting 1808 as a future review date for Slavery.
Pinckney... Clementa Pinckney, State Senator of South Carolina, and church preacher, was one of those murdered by Dillon Roof in his racial hate attack.
If the Civil War reenactors actually cared about history, their time would be better spent watching this video.
Wow u just solved the issue of racism
God bless you
To the guitar reenactors, Pretty sure it would be rare to find a Japanese made guitar on the battlefields then
😂🤣😂If you found any guitar, on the battlefield, it would have been beat to hell and back, more likely a homemade banjo.
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I think you morons are all on the wrong website!
True. Most guitars had been German. Like Höfner and shit. There’s your connection with the nazis, right there.
@@Sophiedorian0535 Ahhh them naughty nazis the antecedent of guilt reparations.
Floyd Rose is one of the first interviewed!
I was born in 1963. The confederate flag was on the Alabama capitol until I was about 30. The radio station WBAM played Dixie at sign off at sunset in the 1970s. Both unceremoniously went away without mention or protest that I remember. But they were there so long.
@jw77019, I encourage you to explore the history behind those changes.....and why those symbols were removed.
The Confederate flag wasn't removed from South Carolina’s statehouse grounds until 2015 after decades of protest against the symbol came to a head following the killing of nine black people in a church in Charleston. My family's home state, I was born up north but spent most summers there. I never understood why they would fly it.
@@tamarashort7269 Originally set to be flown for the 100th Anniversary of the Civil War, but the law had no "sunset date" (date for take down) but the was probably intentional as the civil rights movement was in full swing at that time.
@@markpgeorge...They were removed because People like YOU are Communists Pretty much. NO ONE...takes down 'war' Monuments but Communist countries.
@@markpgeorge..we know. Because butt hurt people that are only 13% of the population are so immature they can't view all history with intelligence. Thats the reason and the only reason they were moved.
Every time hollywood needs extras for a war movie they hire reenactors.
The movie Gettysburg hired hundreds of reenactors. The cannon were privately owned and operated by reenactors
I'm all for the reenactment let's go with Sherman's March through Georgia next
And Lee's surrender
No even better, Davis' capture
Hurrah! Hurrah! We're kicking all their butts . . .
Sherman didn’t go far enough.
It's funny how many times we hear these "re-enactors" and "history-lovers" say "we have to move on!!!!" I guess what they mean is that we have to "move on" from historical truth and replace it with myth.
But then, so many of them ARE true Christian "believers!!!"
Yeah, who wants to be property of another person and forced into labor all your life and never have any rights as a human being or own any property not even your own children. Then all your descendents repeat the same lifestyle for another few centuries. YOU GOT TO BE CRAZY!!!
@ 10:27 the professor compares the U.S. North to the Khmer Rouge. That is a very telling slip-up. You inadvertently showed the North as the not-so-innocent aggressors.
A superbly done effort! As a historian, with a background in German history, who currently teaches American history, I have often found the following analogy useful in helping Americans understand the perverseness of Southern Americans celebrating a whitewashed version, if not completely rewritten account, of their Confederate history. “As an American, what would you think of present-day Germans reenacting their history from 1935-1945 and completely leaving out any representation of the acts of persecution against Jews, gypsies, communists, or homosexuals (et. al.)?”
Based on what I saw in this film, there is at least one person who would have the following advice for Jewish people, “Hey, the Holocaust happened a long time ago. Get over it!” 🤯☹️
Lol you seem to expect our country to give the honest truth about all wars then correct? You seem like you think the civil war(on the southern side) is the only time lying is occurring. All of us have been lied to for decades - if you expect the truth then you are painfully naive .
Yeah lol. Get over it.
As an historian! An hotel. A hospital.
STOPPPPPP comparing The Civil War to WW2 there is nothing in common. Nothing.
Watching these" battle
reenactments " speaks volumes for just how demented some of these people really are!
Yes indeed 👏👏👏
they are honoring the Northern soldier's sacrifice to end slavery.
So, American Revolution re enactments are demented??? The producers of this documentary failed to mention the many American Revolution re enactments that happen every year.
If it wasn't for an Academy Award winning movie.... The role of Blacks in the Civil War would've been erased from history
No sir. Plenty of words written about USCT in that war. And yes they include it in school.
Many still smell the powder burning and hear the stars and bars flapping in the wind⚡⚡
The glee in their faces when reenacting the old civil war.. WARMONGERS THEN, WARMONGERS NOW!!!
@Stupid Liberals smh deflection. But u still can’t argue the fact that the southern reenactors are reenacting a war which the south fought to KEEP slavery.there racists then and racist now
@Stupid Liberals
Strom Thurmond was an unrepentant segregationist Dixiecrat that joined the racist Republican south after LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation.
FACT.
This is the reason behind ENTITLEMENT.
Message for Dr. David Williams from the Netherlands, Europe.
If you have ever visited historical Europe you would know many countries, or even many regions, re-enact historical battles.
Not even to begin about fans of certain tv-shows (like LotR) who enact fairs, costume shows and battles
Thank you 👍
I'll give you three guesses as to why the Cavaliers vs the Roundheads is completely different from the Union vs the Confederacy, not only in terms of their underlying causes but in terms of their contemporary sociopolitical resonances, not to mention the attention to historical detail of the former type of historical reenactment (excellent) as compared to the latter (poor). All of this was addressed in the video.
Your point is spurious, and that's being charitable. Try watching the video before commenting next time.
Wow, I just was you also reference Lord of the RIngs reenactments. You're REALLY putting that in the same category?? Come on, dude.
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If you have ever visited historical Europe you would know many countries, or even many regions, re-enact historical battles
Thats what I said. I was not talking about cavaliers or roundheads, union or confederacy.
I am not sure what you are trying to say. It seems to me that you think our history did not resonate enough, like the battle of Stamford bridge was just a meaningless brawl and Napoleon was just taking his countrymen on a trip.
But hey, thanks for your charity, God bless you 👍
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You are right about that one, LoR does not belong there.
I said it because the only person I know who does reenactments also does fantasy.
They are very accurate about the clothing and script, but there is no historical value in it. I totally agree with you and as a history fan I feel the need to apologise... but I will not go that far... I will just agree that you are right, not the same catagory
At the kids camp we had a fleeting glimpse of a South African apartheid flag on the wall, that says a lot.
It’s crazy how there was no riots or looting or destruction of property at this event. Wonder how many people got arrested, if any….bet we can all think of some other public events held by other “groups” where that’s not the case.
There is a road my dad and I drove down in rural Missouri where he was talking about a local issue regarding changing the road's name. It was named for a hangman's tree there, and the name- something like "Hanging Tree"- was upsetting but honest. The name was offensive because the reality it describes was egregious. But what do you do with that? Any acknowledgment is ugly, but attempting to cover it up seems like it would also be a terrible mistake. ~ I'm pretty sure the tree was still there, but I don't know if the road's name changed. Either way, I highly doubt that the U.S. is collectively in some grave danger of forgetting the Civil War any time soon.
I am black, and those names do not offend me. I think they should stay the same, because it is a part of true history.
*_Most astute!_*
Fucking larpers. Burn the tree to the ground, remind them what freedom really means. Union boys!
@@hoopty.Well you don't speak for the black community as a whole and the name should be changed.
@@timpipkins5190 ok, well when the klan want to change MLK name off the streets, we will have to let it happen. Be fair now. All I'm saying. Asking for things like that in America can backfire.
How many of these Southern Confederacy lovers were January 6th insurrectionists?
They wouldn’t talk on that one..
All the ones I heard talking on the news had a distinct north-of-the-Mason-Dixon line accent.
So, when are you doing a documentary about the American Revolution re enactments? Or, do they not fit in with your negative narrative??
Sorry you don't get it.
The point is these “re-enactments” are not re-enactments at all. It’s fake to the core and only fuels the divide of this country. We all want to see positive change but no one wants to work together. Good luck with that
Negative narrative?
- These reenactors justify it by saying it's about history and education but spin false narratives in order to make the CSA look cool
- They defend the CSA and disrespect the Union
- They skip out on teaching anything they don't want to teach
- They force black people to pay for it
I'm sorry, but what here is positive?
I hope you moved up north and are comfortable where there is no racism....unless you watch the news
There's gonna be racism anywhere you go in this world. It's not just a "southern thang."
@@changle3938 that was my point...in a sarcastic way
Hahahahahahahahahahhaa Ever been to NYC
The CSA just attempted to make a country what instead of Freedom and Liberty as it's focus, it was Slavery for the CSA. 😑
The CSA just attempted to make a country what instead of Freedom and Liberty as it's focus, it was Slavery for the CSA. 😑
“is the black community involved in this at all”
*immediately answers* “no”
(this should tell y’all everything)
I went to one. It seemed silly. Yes, there were black people involved and in costume🤔
As a native born southern with family in the south since the 1600s I am not a confederate, pro confederate, or neo confederate. I despise the confederacy and all it immorally stood for.
The lack of balance and historical context is heavy. When I heard the obvious lie that 1 in 4 southerners owned a slave, I new it was a hit piece.
Lol. I’m sure you did.
Yeah, that’s a huge lie. Only the wealthy had Slaves.
@@bubgum00 citation? Evidence?
Baloney they had small farms that only had a few slave the majority had 20 or more slaves.
300,000 White Southerners fought for the North. Wow, I never knew that. Awesome!!
Kentucky sent over 125,000 troops to the Union forces and about 35,000 to the Confederacy. I'm not sure if those 300,000 stats are counting Kentuckians as Southerners or not since Kentucky was a border state that didn't join the Confederacy. Interesting nonetheless.
If they want to keep the monuments in the south; then write the truth. For instance; “to honor the racists who fought to keep slavery”. This will ensure history will not be lost.
Yes 100%. Put the truth on them. We started racism, we promoted slavery, we opposed integration...we are the democrat party.
Mr. George, your citing the Southern Poverty Law Center as an authoritative and reliable source so early in your film does your creation no service. I tried to stay with it beyond that error but simply could not do so for more than a few increasingly painful minutes. And that's from a Vietnam combat infantry veteran born in the north whose ancestors all wore Union blue.
Hi Russ, how about coming on my podcast and talking about your concerns? If you'd been open to that just send me an email at goingsouth2022@gmail.com and we will schedule it. I hope you accept my offer. Peace and love to you and yours.
Right, an issue of "states rights" to keep slavery in play.
It was 150 years ago... lol.
An issue of taxation
Keeping history alive what about racism can’t keep history alive if you’re not keeping racism alive
nobody will ever kill racism if you go to africa theres black people that dont like other black people because the are two different races
@@herseyberry4655 no they are different race and they can tell whos who by one look
@@herseyberry4655 Does it have applicability in medicine wrt to safety of medicines or propensity to disorders?
Do Germans reenact ww2 battles? No, because a major are ashamed of the atrocities that happened due to the Nazi's. I dont buy this "keeping history alive" BS.
@@loreleilazuli8874 Germans do do reenactments they have to buy fake guns to do them
Slavery was a legal institution and was taxed for it's production of goods a long time before the civil war ,with the majority of the taxes going to the Northern states . The Southern States rebelled against this tyranny , it's not hard to figure out that the North became vehemently opposed to slavery ,when the Southern States decided to form the Confederacy .
I wonder how many of those uniforms will be swapped out for KKK robes later on for the night cap 😞
My guess is few or none. Cheers!
I am a AMERICAN not a westerern,easterer, southerner or northerner, the south is about white mythology
I hear you brother!