I bought a Waltly TI frame custom made and delivered to Ireland. Great experience and I now have an amazing beautiful bike. Just a very positive experience. 2024 used a frame geometry of a bike I really liked. Minimum intergration and routing through the frame as I wanted a Audax bike. For ease of repair on the side of the road at 2am. Very happy😊
@klein-concept titanium is such a good material for a bike frame. Waltly craftmanshio is superb. The result is we all have these beautiful functional objects to cycle.
I had a Waltly frame built up early in 2023 - contacted Sumi in January, got the drawings worked up in February, and received my frame in April. I used the geometry of a Cannondale Synapse as my starting point, since I wanted endurance geometry and many reviews said that the Synapse had very comfortable geometry for long rides. I then built it up and have been riding the bike ever since. The bike now has just over 5000km on it and it has been great overall, both in looks and ride quality. It's quick and comfortable - I have ridden it as much as 350km in a single day without any comfort issues at all. My bike does not have an integrated headset (too problematic / annoying for maintenance for my tastes) but it does have internal cable routing. Weight of built up bike, including pedals, is about 9.5kg. I'm running 105 Di2 on mine. I'd highly recommend Waltly to anyone looking for a custom Ti bike at a reasonable price
@LukeRichardson1981 @klein-concept I'm considering either a ti frame or an carbon bike. But it is very tempting to do the ti frame as the maintance is very low, and that I can have a good bicycle for the rest of my life. When working with a geometry of another bike. Did you just say: copy this frame?
Had a custom Waltly rim brake road bike built last 2021 and everything went well with sumi. Just give exact details. Also had t47 and internal wiring. Hope in the future, southeast Asians builders becomes more popular and respected and the stereotype of ‘made in china’ being bad quality changes.
I've got a circa 2013 Waltly mountain bike, bought it used. It's probably my favorite bike out of all 10, and has held up to abuse without damage. You'll love yours!
I had to replace my bike frame because my manufacturer ghosted me. So I had to rebudget my funds to a replacement frame. But I think my next bike build will be an endurance titanium bike with wireless group set. Really excited to see how your build turns out.
That is crazy to get a manufacturer ghost you. Regarding Waltly i read a lot of good things about them and the pictures of the frame look real good. Lets see how smooth the build and ride will be. 🫶
I just bought myself a titanium gravel bike for Christmas (T-3) and love the feel of the frame; very responsive and smooth. Really like that I don't need to worry abought corrosion or cracks. Also, titanium will provide the same feedback for life as it does not degrade. You have made a great choice in frame material!
Hey Klein! It came as a good surprise that RUclips algo brought me your video. Looking forward to your update. I also have a custom gravel bike done with Sumi. SHE is very accommodating! Want to design another bike with her soon. Your video is only fueling the urge to do another one. I specifically want to do a road bike this time
Happy to hear that. I am also very excited especially after reading all the comments here. Also spoke with Sumi already today. Now i m aware she is a girl 🫣
Surprisingly detailed specification. Lots of interesting detail. Really interested in how this one rides. Looking forward to the build/ride videos. Been seriously considering a ti frame for myself, though i would want it painted. Maybe....
Exciting project, I am looking forward to see this special bike, besides which colours you've decided? You might ask them to "dye" a different colour to the titanium frame or components, if you change your mind, just let them know before too late.👍🏽
Thank you. It has already been shipped. Should arrive next week. I went with a raw look. Need to think if i want to get it painted here or keep it all raw.
I had a Dean ti bike back in the late 90s. I don't know which model it was but it didn't have that magical feel like my Italian steel Colnago. I'd love another Colnago but those are above my pay grade and the steel will rust where I live. I was about to buy a Lynskey which with their sales are a great buy right now, but their frames aren't a good size for me; either too big or too small. So this Waltly is looking like the direction I'll go too. I'm coming from a technical mountain bike racing background and going to build a flat bar gravel bike. My bike will see 95% road so I'll keep it light as possible since it won't be off-road much. I've started the quote process with Waltly. I'm looking forward to seeing your build and review
Last winter I had Carver Bikes as a "middle man" to have my ti 20" frame made. Carver uses Walty recently when 10 years ago he used Xacd. I had handlebars and forks made with Carver / xacd 10 years ago and are still holding up great. My frame was drawn up at the end of November 2022 and the frame got to me in March 2023. If I were to get another frame it would either be from Carver again or Waltly. I tried shopping with USA companies and either they wanted a 5k up front or just wouldn't bother making a 20" frame. They all pointed to ML but he doesn't do actual "custom".
Sounds like you re pretty happy with your frame if you would consider them again right? Do you feel any big difference compared to other frame materials.
Compared the few steel or chromoly frames the one noticeable difference is the front end is more twisty when stand up pedaling. The chainstays though feels stiffer when sitting down and spinning. I try to keep a 90 cadence and wiggle waggling is something I notice even on the steel frames. It's mainly from a high gearing of 48/14. I reviewed the frame and one thing is the chain slaps the seatstays due to the snake like design. That's really all I'd change.
It actually already arrived a couple days ago. Might at least post an unboxing and first impressions already as it might take me a couple more weeks before i get to building it up.
@@klein-conceptdid you have to pay customs fees/ taxes or was the frame delivered directly to your doorstep without issues? I see that Waltly is offering XDB shipping which should include everything. About to order one myself.
Great video as always! It would be awesome if you could explain the shipping experience and process (e.g. clearing customs and fees paid) once the frame has arrived. Would love to order one as well!
@@klein-concept by the way, can you include information about the process of import fees/customs when the frame arrives? would be interesting to see about imports to germany rather than all the channels that are in the us or australia :)
I wish you good luck my friend, I unfortunately had two terrible experiences with Sumi, confusing communication, she lost record of my messages and made it wrong for the first time, I had to ship it back (which was a nightmare) and remake a new one, she again missed several requests I made and I got it again different from what I wanted, but she could me no room for negotiation so I had not other option than keep the frame and trying to use it. Anyway, the final outcome at the end I think it doesn’t justify the amount of communication and efforts for at the end a medium product bike. I have quite an experience on custom frame, as it’s important the level of communication between customer and builder, Sumi is just not well organized at all, so many small mistakes that I didn’t like. For me it’s a NO-GO trial!
Hey Marco, thanks a lot for sharing your experience. I will have an in depth look if what arrived is what i ordered. To fully understand, did they deliver something different than what was send in the technical drawing for approval? Or was there some communication after that that got lost?
@@klein-concept good question…the first trial I did was a Pinion Gearbox MTB, the tolerance on the pinion cage was too much, we could not fit the pinion gearbox and they forgot to cut the downtube for the belt, so it was done later with some signs and marks that I was not happy, also other parts in the chainstay had a big tolerance which we struggled when building. I obtain to ship back the frame and make a new one but they asked me to add severla extra bucks, now I got the new frame, seems ok and it’s almost built, but Sumi forgot to do few things I asked on the finishing, she shipped without sending pictures and at the end there was not wording and finishing was wrong. For me a terrible experience overall, but again, this is my experiemce, your will be better for sure…but if I considered the money at the end I spent, the time it took and the real final outcome it’s not just worthy, I think custom builder has to be easily accessible, frequent communication, trials and errors, and to do it remotely with someone in Xiamen ….well you must be lucky to get it right, but there is some chance to get it wrong! Anyway, this company has a lot of good feedbacks so, I am definitely in the minority group, so you have good chance to get it right! Anyway, great video, I am following you
Uh that doesnt sound like a great experience. Luckily i think my project was way simpler than your s has been so i hope to be on the positive review side. Think i will start the build in 3 weeks.
Interessant dass du dir einen TI Rahmen dort bestellt hast, bin die Tage vor Weihnachten auch bei Alibaba und Waltly hängen geblieben, hab aber "noch" mit einer Bestellung gezögert. Bin schon sehr gespannt wie das bei dir ausgeht. :)
I had a Waltly frame built , got it in last November. I used the same geometry as my Peugeot PX10. I reduced the rake to 40mm, and made the seat tube angle slacker. The bike rides fantastic, very comfortable, very agile steering. What impressed me was how much crisper the shifts were on the Ti bike compared to steel bikes. The issue I had with Waltly was they do not read the quote document sent in, they just ask a series of questions. When ordering you need to email all the specs, do not assume they have the information in the quote document. Need to go over the specs a few times to make sure they understand. This may be a language issue, or a cultural thing. The welding is impeccable, the quality of workmanship is outstanding. I would not hesitate to buy another bike from them.
Very happy to hear that and thanks for the advice. I had a similar experience in the first mails but after talking about the specs for a second time and sending the details in a different format allowed them to update the dimensions in the second draft. 🤜🤛
I think Sumi is a woman. I went through Amy, currently waiting my frame to arrive (right now traveling from Germany to Spain). My geo is fully custom, based on a bikefit. All the bikes I have tried are just too long and not tall enough for a given size (like if I needed a 56-58 bike in stack but a 52-53 in reach). So this time I designed it appropriately instead of using the ugly combination of 5-6 cm spacers on the headset.
That really sounds like the perfect requirement for a custom frame. So you can have a good looking maybe even slammed stem setup. I now realized that Sumi is a woman. Shame on me 🫣. Already spoke with her this morning.
Yes i had a look at them. They are in almost the same price range when on sale but then i preferred to get a custom one made which matches the geometry of my reference bike.
I have never ridden a Waltly frame but my experience with titanium is identical with the steel and alloy, only the very good, high quality ones will reward you with a memorable ride, really curious how this turns out for you and how it compares with the steel bikes
nahhhhh, Litespeed is in the middle of the road, there are so many boutique builders, Kish Fabrication, English, Moots, Mosaic, Bishop, De Rosa Corum Ti and many others. I am not advocating for expensive frames only but the quality of titanium used and the manufacturing is essential for the ride quality you are after. Welcome other thoughts , in US used TI frames are available for $2k
Good point. You are right. Prices are openended with some of the brands you mention. Was wondering what the main difference is. So you say they use different titanium tubes?
I look forward to the review. I just got rid of my lynskey titanium bike because I hated the geometry. I'm 4'11 and to me the most important thing is having a low stack height. I was looking at the new litespeed bike, but that price stoped me. I know a titanium bike will never be my number one bike, so I cant justify the expense
So maybe a custom ti frame might be the solution. If you dont go for the dual butting and are fine with external routing that would drive the price down as well.
@@klein-concept I'll wait to see how your project turns out. I'm curious what the weight will be. On the Lynkey I had scram rival 1x and it weighed around 16.6 lb. I think it could have easily weighed 16 with a few cheap modifications.
@@TRISHYXX being able to ride a road bike is dependent of flexibility. My latest bike is a Tarmac SL8. As mentioned, if your short it's all about being able to get low enough on the bike
I'm on my third waltly frame. They've been very good, fast emails and turnarounds. You do need to know your stuff in regards to geometry and brake mounts / headset types / groupset use etc. it has allowed me to build a bike thayt fits me better.
Judging by your drawing, the top pipe of the rear triangle has a pipe diameter of 16mm. Me and other guys from RUclips who shared their drawings can see 19mm. Did you decide to make this pipe thinner? And what does this give?
I have a 19 mm but oval chainstay and 16 mm seatstay. We actually didnt discuss the pipe diameter in that area so i relied on their expertise. I think its also 16mm on my steel bike.
I ve done a bike fit a while ago and tried to keep track of it along the way using myvelofit. But you are right it would have been the perfect opportunity. But now i focus on comparing ti to steel so i needed to matching geometries for this.
Hey Klein! I'm so glad RUclips algorithm led me to your video. Interested to find out the difference in ride feel of a Columbus frame to a Ti. I had a gravel bike built by Sumi as well. I had my fork also done in Ti as well to fully customize the rake and height. Made the bike heavier though but I don't mind. BTW. Sumi is a pretty girl. She is not a he, but a she.
@@mikelim5987 hehe glad you found the channel 🤜🤛. I am also very curious in the ride difference lets see. Re Sumi. Shame on me 🫣 and thank you for letting me know. I will correct this of course in the next video.
100% this. My geo is based in fact on the outcome from a bike fit. The bike fitter told me to put a seatpost with reversed 2cm offset (so to the front) and like 5-6cm spacers (long legs, small torso and arms) so this was really calling for a custom frame. Designed it with a very very upright (75deg seat tube) and a very tall headset and short reach/top tube)
Reminder that you're building a custom bike, and if you're not making it electric, there's absolutely no excuse to use those cheap ahh spoke wheels that explode the second you run over a twig.
I bought a Waltly TI frame custom made and delivered to Ireland.
Great experience and I now have an amazing beautiful bike.
Just a very positive experience.
2024 used a frame geometry of a bike I really liked.
Minimum intergration and routing through the frame as I wanted a Audax bike.
For ease of repair on the side of the road at 2am.
Very happy😊
@@andrew097 glad to hear about your good experience with Waltly. Sounds like a really beautiful bike you got there 🤜🤛
@klein-concept titanium is such a good material for a bike frame. Waltly craftmanshio is superb. The result is we all have these beautiful functional objects to cycle.
I had a Waltly frame built up early in 2023 - contacted Sumi in January, got the drawings worked up in February, and received my frame in April. I used the geometry of a Cannondale Synapse as my starting point, since I wanted endurance geometry and many reviews said that the Synapse had very comfortable geometry for long rides. I then built it up and have been riding the bike ever since. The bike now has just over 5000km on it and it has been great overall, both in looks and ride quality. It's quick and comfortable - I have ridden it as much as 350km in a single day without any comfort issues at all. My bike does not have an integrated headset (too problematic / annoying for maintenance for my tastes) but it does have internal cable routing. Weight of built up bike, including pedals, is about 9.5kg. I'm running 105 Di2 on mine. I'd highly recommend Waltly to anyone looking for a custom Ti bike at a reasonable price
Thanks a lot for sharing this. Very happy to hear about your positive experience. very excited to see how this frame will work out.
@LukeRichardson1981 @klein-concept I'm considering either a ti frame or an carbon bike. But it is very tempting to do the ti frame as the maintance is very low, and that I can have a good bicycle for the rest of my life. When working with a geometry of another bike. Did you just say: copy this frame?
May I ask which wheels you are running? Because 9.5kg seems to be quiet a lot?
350km a day sometime,excellent stuff.💯👌🏻💪🏻🚴♂️
Had a custom Waltly rim brake road bike built last 2021 and everything went well with sumi. Just give exact details. Also had t47 and internal wiring. Hope in the future, southeast Asians builders becomes more popular and respected and the stereotype of ‘made in china’ being bad quality changes.
Thanks a lot for sharing. My mind has already changed in regards to made in China. So i m very excited to build this one up 🤜🤛
I've got a circa 2013 Waltly mountain bike, bought it used. It's probably my favorite bike out of all 10, and has held up to abuse without damage. You'll love yours!
That sounds like a proper statement. Being your 1 out of 10. Very happy to hear that. Mine should arrive next week. 😍
Excellent looking frame,the headtube diameter is truly massive at 50mm,it must be a really stiff but comfortable ride and excellent price.💯👌🏻💪🏻🚴♂️
@@reinholdachleitner2069 it is good fun. My favourite frame so far 🤜🤛
Can't wait for an update! Please let us also know about the import to EU in the update.
Best of luck!
Will do. I think it should arrive next week. 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept Any updates?
@@geoleo2597 so far no additional payments and the bike arrived already 2 weeks ago.
@@klein-conceptdid that overall total include VAT charges?
@@bobareturnedyes thats all in
Just when you’re starting the build, check that everything has been faced and reamed properly. looking forward to seeing how it looks.
Thanks a lot for the tip. Will do a proper inspection when it arrives.
So thoughtful and really imformative of you to even know about Chinese new year! Nice one!
In my day job i also deal with manufacturing in China so thats how i know about this very important time of the year.
I had to replace my bike frame because my manufacturer ghosted me. So I had to rebudget my funds to a replacement frame. But I think my next bike build will be an endurance titanium bike with wireless group set. Really excited to see how your build turns out.
That is crazy to get a manufacturer ghost you. Regarding Waltly i read a lot of good things about them and the pictures of the frame look real good. Lets see how smooth the build and ride will be. 🫶
I just bought myself a titanium gravel bike for Christmas (T-3) and love the feel of the frame; very responsive and smooth. Really like that I don't need to worry abought corrosion or cracks. Also, titanium will provide the same feedback for life as it does not degrade. You have made a great choice in frame material!
Thanks a lot. Great to hear about your experience with ti 🤜🤛
❤❤ its very experts and expensive quality technology of cycle master technology of world. Appreciate ❤
Can't wait to see the final result!
Me neither 🤩
Looking forward to the result of this, might push to take on my own project
Hope it can give you an extra push hehe 🤜🤛
Hey Klein! It came as a good surprise that RUclips algo brought me your video. Looking forward to your update. I also have a custom gravel bike done with Sumi. SHE is very accommodating! Want to design another bike with her soon. Your video is only fueling the urge to do another one. I specifically want to do a road bike this time
Happy to hear that. I am also very excited especially after reading all the comments here.
Also spoke with Sumi already today. Now i m aware she is a girl 🫣
Surprisingly detailed specification. Lots of interesting detail. Really interested in how this one rides. Looking forward to the build/ride videos. Been seriously considering a ti frame for myself, though i would want it painted. Maybe....
I m actually also considering to at least get the front painted so that it blends in with the black fork. Lets see 🤜🤛
Yes exciting ,Happy new year looking forward to seeing your build .
Thanks a lot. Wish you a happy new year as well 🎇
Exciting project, I am looking forward to see this special bike, besides which colours you've decided? You might ask them to "dye" a different colour to the titanium frame or components, if you change your mind, just let them know before too late.👍🏽
Thank you. It has already been shipped. Should arrive next week. I went with a raw look. Need to think if i want to get it painted here or keep it all raw.
@@klein-concept Maybe you could keep the raw look & laser print some deco details for the bike.
Wonder how lasering would work on a bend tube. Need to read about it a bit more.
I had a Dean ti bike back in the late 90s. I don't know which model it was but it didn't have that magical feel like my Italian steel Colnago. I'd love another Colnago but those are above my pay grade and the steel will rust where I live. I was about to buy a Lynskey which with their sales are a great buy right now, but their frames aren't a good size for me; either too big or too small. So this Waltly is looking like the direction I'll go too. I'm coming from a technical mountain bike racing background and going to build a flat bar gravel bike. My bike will see 95% road so I'll keep it light as possible since it won't be off-road much. I've started the quote process with Waltly. I'm looking forward to seeing your build and review
Uh a steel Colnago 🤤. Love it. I will try to upload the unboxing video asap so you can get an idea about quality and weight.
Last winter I had Carver Bikes as a "middle man" to have my ti 20" frame made. Carver uses Walty recently when 10 years ago he used Xacd. I had handlebars and forks made with Carver / xacd 10 years ago and are still holding up great. My frame was drawn up at the end of November 2022 and the frame got to me in March 2023. If I were to get another frame it would either be from Carver again or Waltly. I tried shopping with USA companies and either they wanted a 5k up front or just wouldn't bother making a 20" frame. They all pointed to ML but he doesn't do actual "custom".
Sounds like you re pretty happy with your frame if you would consider them again right? Do you feel any big difference compared to other frame materials.
Compared the few steel or chromoly frames the one noticeable difference is the front end is more twisty when stand up pedaling. The chainstays though feels stiffer when sitting down and spinning. I try to keep a 90 cadence and wiggle waggling is something I notice even on the steel frames. It's mainly from a high gearing of 48/14.
I reviewed the frame and one thing is the chain slaps the seatstays due to the snake like design. That's really all I'd change.
Looking forward to see the built video and how the frame turns out to be.
It actually already arrived a couple days ago. Might at least post an unboxing and first impressions already as it might take me a couple more weeks before i get to building it up.
@@klein-conceptdid you have to pay customs fees/ taxes or was the frame delivered directly to your doorstep without issues?
I see that Waltly is offering XDB shipping which should include everything.
About to order one myself.
@@bastisk8 didnt have to pay customs so far. Sometimes DPD sends an invoice afterwards but ive been told its all included.
Great video as always!
It would be awesome if you could explain the shipping experience and process (e.g. clearing customs and fees paid) once the frame has arrived.
Would love to order one as well!
Thank you. I will. The frame has already been shipped so i should have some updates soon.
yay a new klein concept video :D
German ROJ equivalent goes custom titanium route too xD
keep it going man, love the stuff!
Thanks a lot. New proper long build video on its way as well already 🫶
@@klein-concept by the way, can you include information about the process of import fees/customs when the frame arrives? would be interesting to see about imports to germany rather than all the channels that are in the us or australia :)
Good point. Yes i will also include all the import fun once it arrives 🤜🤛
Happy New Year Michael. Congratulations! This sounds like an amazing project👍🏾
Happy New Year Luis. Hope you had a good start.
Thanks a lot. Very curious to see how this will compare to steel 🤔
You didn't mention tube finish... I personally would steer clear of any rough finish, shot peened, brushed etc. Good Luck! Can't wait...
Very good point. Yes so far i was planning to keep it raw or get it mirror polished. Any recommendations?
@@klein-concept Polished is the only way to go in my humble opinion. Good Luck!
I wish you good luck my friend, I unfortunately had two terrible experiences with Sumi, confusing communication, she lost record of my messages and made it wrong for the first time, I had to ship it back (which was a nightmare) and remake a new one, she again missed several requests I made and I got it again different from what I wanted, but she could me no room for negotiation so I had not other option than keep the frame and trying to use it. Anyway, the final outcome at the end I think it doesn’t justify the amount of communication and efforts for at the end a medium product bike. I have quite an experience on custom frame, as it’s important the level of communication between customer and builder, Sumi is just not well organized at all, so many small mistakes that I didn’t like. For me it’s a NO-GO trial!
Hey Marco, thanks a lot for sharing your experience. I will have an in depth look if what arrived is what i ordered.
To fully understand, did they deliver something different than what was send in the technical drawing for approval? Or was there some communication after that that got lost?
@@klein-concept good question…the first trial I did was a Pinion Gearbox MTB, the tolerance on the pinion cage was too much, we could not fit the pinion gearbox and they forgot to cut the downtube for the belt, so it was done later with some signs and marks that I was not happy, also other parts in the chainstay had a big tolerance which we struggled when building. I obtain to ship back the frame and make a new one but they asked me to add severla extra bucks, now I got the new frame, seems ok and it’s almost built, but Sumi forgot to do few things I asked on the finishing, she shipped without sending pictures and at the end there was not wording and finishing was wrong. For me a terrible experience overall, but again, this is my experiemce, your will be better for sure…but if I considered the money at the end I spent, the time it took and the real final outcome it’s not just worthy, I think custom builder has to be easily accessible, frequent communication, trials and errors, and to do it remotely with someone in Xiamen ….well you must be lucky to get it right, but there is some chance to get it wrong! Anyway, this company has a lot of good feedbacks so, I am definitely in the minority group, so you have good chance to get it right! Anyway, great video, I am following you
Uh that doesnt sound like a great experience. Luckily i think my project was way simpler than your s has been so i hope to be on the positive review side. Think i will start the build in 3 weeks.
@@klein-concept yes, looking forward to your new video, I am sure it will be fantastic bike!
Interessant dass du dir einen TI Rahmen dort bestellt hast, bin die Tage vor Weihnachten auch bei Alibaba und Waltly hängen geblieben, hab aber "noch" mit einer Bestellung gezögert. Bin schon sehr gespannt wie das bei dir ausgeht. :)
Bin auch sehr gespannt aber reviews sehen ganz gut aus.
Ich bin begeistert. !!!!!!!
🫶
Damn I haven’t heard the name cycling maven in so long. He literally got me into cycling lol
Hehe real legend 🫶
I had a Waltly frame built , got it in last November. I used the same geometry as my Peugeot PX10. I reduced the rake to 40mm, and made the seat tube angle slacker. The bike rides fantastic, very comfortable, very agile steering. What impressed me was how much crisper the shifts were on the Ti bike compared to steel bikes.
The issue I had with Waltly was they do not read the quote document sent in, they just ask a series of questions. When ordering you need to email all the specs, do not assume they have the information in the quote document. Need to go over the specs a few times to make sure they understand. This may be a language issue, or a cultural thing.
The welding is impeccable, the quality of workmanship is outstanding. I would not hesitate to buy another bike from them.
Very happy to hear that and thanks for the advice. I had a similar experience in the first mails but after talking about the specs for a second time and sending the details in a different format allowed them to update the dimensions in the second draft. 🤜🤛
I think Sumi is a woman. I went through Amy, currently waiting my frame to arrive (right now traveling from Germany to Spain). My geo is fully custom, based on a bikefit. All the bikes I have tried are just too long and not tall enough for a given size (like if I needed a 56-58 bike in stack but a 52-53 in reach). So this time I designed it appropriately instead of using the ugly combination of 5-6 cm spacers on the headset.
That really sounds like the perfect requirement for a custom frame. So you can have a good looking maybe even slammed stem setup.
I now realized that Sumi is a woman. Shame on me 🫣. Already spoke with her this morning.
@@klein-concept yes, that is the idea, at most 10mm spacer
Have you looked at Lynskey titanium frames? They are quite nice and not terribly expensive.
Yes i had a look at them. They are in almost the same price range when on sale but then i preferred to get a custom one made which matches the geometry of my reference bike.
I have never ridden a Waltly frame but my experience with titanium is identical with the steel and alloy, only the very good, high quality ones will reward you with a memorable ride, really curious how this turns out for you and how it compares with the steel bikes
I have also heard that. So lets see. Maybe next thing will be a 5k litespeed frame. Just to compare 😂😂
nahhhhh, Litespeed is in the middle of the road, there are so many boutique builders, Kish Fabrication, English, Moots, Mosaic, Bishop, De Rosa Corum Ti and many others. I am not advocating for expensive frames only but the quality of titanium used and the manufacturing is essential for the ride quality you are after. Welcome other thoughts , in US used TI frames are available for $2k
Good point. You are right. Prices are openended with some of the brands you mention. Was wondering what the main difference is. So you say they use different titanium tubes?
Great content in your channel. May I ask what fork did you go with that has integrated cable routing? Thanks.
Thank you. It actually came with a fork from them with integrated routing.
Waiting to see the welding on the frame.
Me too 🤩
@@klein-concept
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I look forward to the review. I just got rid of my lynskey titanium bike because I hated the geometry. I'm 4'11 and to me the most important thing is having a low stack height. I was looking at the new litespeed bike, but that price stoped me. I know a titanium bike will never be my number one bike, so I cant justify the expense
So maybe a custom ti frame might be the solution. If you dont go for the dual butting and are fine with external routing that would drive the price down as well.
@@klein-concept I'll wait to see how your project turns out. I'm curious what the weight will be. On the Lynkey I had scram rival 1x and it weighed around 16.6 lb. I think it could have easily weighed 16 with a few cheap modifications.
Do they even make bikes for your height? lol
@@TRISHYXX being able to ride a road bike is dependent of flexibility. My latest bike is a Tarmac SL8. As mentioned, if your short it's all about being able to get low enough on the bike
I'm on my third waltly frame. They've been very good, fast emails and turnarounds. You do need to know your stuff in regards to geometry and brake mounts / headset types / groupset use etc. it has allowed me to build a bike thayt fits me better.
Happy to hear that. How comes you have three frames from them? How do they differentiate?
I love my waltly Ti been riding sice 2021.
Happy to hear that. I will start building mine this weekend. 🤜🤛
Can you share your spec & component list?
You will see all the parts in the full build video. Hope that works for you: ruclips.net/video/jxqkPHe5y_k/видео.html
Judging by your drawing, the top pipe of the rear triangle has a pipe diameter of 16mm. Me and other guys from RUclips who shared their drawings can see 19mm. Did you decide to make this pipe thinner? And what does this give?
I have a 19 mm but oval chainstay and 16 mm seatstay. We actually didnt discuss the pipe diameter in that area so i relied on their expertise.
I think its also 16mm on my steel bike.
@klein-concept on my bike those pipes are 22.2mm and 19mm.
@@hensemzp1 thats interesting. Also a road focused one or an allroad or gravel design?
@klein-concept mine is a gravel bike.But I use mostly like road bike.Maybe because of that. I built mine in the 2020 and planning to build new one.
Ah that might be it that they used more solid tubes because it needs to withstand rides on gravel.
That’s half the price of frames here in the uk!
@@djjackjones1 i also think its a real good deal. So maybe worth looking into it as well to get it shipped to UK 🤜🤛
Would've been the perfect opportunity to get a bike fit done. Kinda the point of going custom
I ve done a bike fit a while ago and tried to keep track of it along the way using myvelofit. But you are right it would have been the perfect opportunity. But now i focus on comparing ti to steel so i needed to matching geometries for this.
@@klein-concept ahhh, ok cool, and ya, got your point in doing the comparison to the steel frame
Hey Klein! I'm so glad RUclips algorithm led me to your video. Interested to find out the difference in ride feel of a Columbus frame to a Ti. I had a gravel bike built by Sumi as well. I had my fork also done in Ti as well to fully customize the rake and height. Made the bike heavier though but I don't mind. BTW. Sumi is a pretty girl. She is not a he, but a she.
@@mikelim5987 hehe glad you found the channel 🤜🤛. I am also very curious in the ride difference lets see.
Re Sumi. Shame on me 🫣 and thank you for letting me know. I will correct this of course in the next video.
100% this. My geo is based in fact on the outcome from a bike fit. The bike fitter told me to put a seatpost with reversed 2cm offset (so to the front) and like 5-6cm spacers (long legs, small torso and arms) so this was really calling for a custom frame. Designed it with a very very upright (75deg seat tube) and a very tall headset and short reach/top tube)
how is it?
Pretty good so far. Review coming up once i put a couple more km on it. 🤜🤛
So how is it going?
The frame is ready and has been send out. Will give an update once it arrives 🫶
@@klein-concept looking forward to!
Hi, können wir privat unterhalten? Ich bin im Bestellprozess eines
WALTLY TITANIUM Rahmens und wollte von Deinen Erfahrungen lernen. VG
Schreib mir gerne eine nachricht auf meinem KleinConcept instagram profil 🤜🤛
Reminder that you're building a custom bike, and if you're not making it electric, there's absolutely no excuse to use those cheap ahh spoke wheels that explode the second you run over a twig.
Hey, sorry i dont think i understand 🫣
Why opt for chinese $h!t? Just get it from Lynskey or Moots from the US or some other from Europe....
lol. One love for you too 🫶