Is This The SURPRISE DRIVER Of 2023?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • Is This The SURPRISE DRIVER Of 2023?
    Matt Fryer Golf test the new range of Mizuno ST 230 drivers to see if they have improved from the previous model the Mizuno ST 220
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Комментарии • 112

  • @nevilleharrison650
    @nevilleharrison650 Год назад +8

    Matt please get the spirit level out and level the frames behind you 😂😂

  • @jerrythompson9586
    @jerrythompson9586 Год назад +2

    I got mine for Christmas and love it and I paid 299 for mine
    I’m usually just in front of the stealth guys and epic guys that are ten years younger than I am
    I’m 60 and still average about 285 with it and every once in a while I’ll still get it out over 300 so I’m very happy with mine

  • @ryanschultz4119
    @ryanschultz4119 Год назад

    This confirms what I've found over recent years when it comes to the newer driver's. I use to just go out & buy the biggest name driver, that I liked the look of. Only to find out they didn't suit my swing. So I started going out & testing driver's. Without the motivation to buy a new one. And quickly discovered how important it is to get the club best suited to your swing. Along with giving every manufacturer a chance.

  • @joesti7607
    @joesti7607 4 месяца назад

    Out of curiosity why are you targeting under 2000 spin? I’ve always targeted mid 2000s because my misses are far better and distance is barely less.

  • @kyleborgful
    @kyleborgful Год назад +1

    Hey Matt, thanks for the quality video. Are you still going to do the driver leaderboard? I thought it was a great idea.

  • @7Harkness7
    @7Harkness7 Год назад +3

    Really interested to see how the X performed. Had previous generation Z but struggled with occasional spin-free nose diving shots. I had assumed the X was to correct big slices, but will have to try it out!

  • @SevnZeroFive
    @SevnZeroFive Год назад +1

    Just bought a stz 220 10.5*. For 300$CAD love it

  • @ohwowthatsgood
    @ohwowthatsgood Год назад +1

    Matt is the hosel the same design as the old models? I'm gaming an ST-190 and love it. I'd like to try the new heads with my current shaft. Thanks

  • @gregsvoboda1100
    @gregsvoboda1100 Год назад +1

    quick question Matt, looking and love the look of the JPX923 forged, but the cost is close to the PRO 223s, so would it be better to get the 223s and yes i do love the look of them as well

  • @robertromano8008
    @robertromano8008 Год назад

    very intriguing review i have always loved the value of the Mizuno brand for many years, i have had the irons and would look to try one of these new Drivers....good show Matt

  • @nigeljames9423
    @nigeljames9423 Месяц назад

    I picked up the 230Z at £299 on line so it is out there at that price if you look around and it’s every bit as good as Matt says.

  • @adrianscott6005
    @adrianscott6005 Год назад +4

    Would have been interesting to see the dispersion between the two and also your current driver 👍🏼

  • @allenparker2690
    @allenparker2690 Год назад +1

    Mizuno seems to be going the of Nissan with their new Frontier. They have the Toyota Tacoma killer but priced it to high to coax new buyers to the brand. Mizuno as you said seem to have made themselves a name with Irons but have never really been able to break into the upper echelon of drivers. Lower the price and "they will come."

  • @Hunter-zp5hd
    @Hunter-zp5hd Год назад +5

    All of the new drivers are good I’m sure, but is an amateur golfer going to fork out $5-600 every time these manufacturers come out with a driver? I doubt it. There are so many used drivers in perfect shape that you can get a super nice one for half the price.

  • @JM-bt1uy
    @JM-bt1uy Год назад

    Play a 220 STZ. Just love it!! Thank you for the review!!!

  • @keithfraley4408
    @keithfraley4408 Год назад +1

    Looking at getting a new Driver this year, Mizuno will definitely be one that I will try, I swing Mizuno irons so I'm hoping the Driver don't disappoint.

    • @paulgolfer
      @paulgolfer Год назад

      Paul here a tip just try AJUSTABLE ones well take me I tried every AJUSTABLE driver and the setting suiting me added 50 yards on course but by error in winter I dropped 2 ° to 8° and now I'm a fairway longer finder . what I am saying is AJUSTABLE settings you can fiddle about a bit to suit.
      paul

    • @conalsands4748
      @conalsands4748 Год назад

      ​@@paulgolferI have a question about adjustable drivers if you please?

  • @azizamjoojoo3054
    @azizamjoojoo3054 Год назад +1

    Besides Mizuno, Taylormade,Cobra, etc utilizing marketing ploys to sell more, is there really that much of a difference between this and Drivers 10-15 years old? Technology does have it’s limitations.

  • @hn9598
    @hn9598 Год назад

    I agree definitely on the head
    Thin line would of looked awesome
    It looks a bit like an m2 with a black band.
    It only has shorter shafts aswell doesn't it

  • @seanbuller7578
    @seanbuller7578 Год назад

    cheers mate! love the channel and ur videos, keep 'em comin brother....💪💪💪

  • @patterd2
    @patterd2 Год назад +1

    Nice review, Matt, really like the looks of this driver. Is 1500 spin too low to be functional on course? Would the results change much if you tweaked shaft/loft/etc. to get it to 2000+?

  • @mikesnowden1054
    @mikesnowden1054 Год назад

    How to remember - Z model is supposed to have the weight on the Z axis ie behind the sweet spot. X has the weight across the face - X axis - allowing for "mild draw bias".

  • @TheCjclaflin1
    @TheCjclaflin1 Год назад

    I have the Mizuno STG 220. It’s such a low spinning driver. It only hits bombs. Even the bad hits are still good

  • @GRIFF22
    @GRIFF22 Год назад

    Could you put your club data as well in the future. Some long balls there, but that mid 1000 spin would be hard to manage on the course.

  • @Orr_s
    @Orr_s Год назад

    Really need to try these new mizunos, theyre up to something really good over there with these drivers past few yrs. But i love my Cobra F9 still and dont see much reason to change

  • @phil4418
    @phil4418 Год назад

    Thanks for the video Matt, i hope the testing of the Z model makes it on here :)

  • @aaronedwardson7043
    @aaronedwardson7043 Год назад +1

    I'm still using the st180 but I'm planning a new driver this year. Was thinking of this until you said the rrp

    • @Mattfryergolf
      @Mattfryergolf  Год назад +1

      Yeah that's the one thing that will stop folks I think

  • @stephenwilliams2445
    @stephenwilliams2445 Год назад

    Good review and the results show it works but like all things it’s different from person to person

  • @wessims3412
    @wessims3412 Год назад

    I have JPX-921 Hot Metal irons and wedges and they are stellar. I’ve had many other iron brands in the bag and these are my solid gold. I’ve owned a few Mizuno drivers like ST-180 and ST-200 but they didn’t rock my world. If Mizuno wants to get a piece of the market they need to tantalize the golfers with not only superior performance, but an attractive PRICE below others to lure golfers into buying them. Pricing them sub par with the others that perform equally well will not win over many. It’s a wrong strategy by Mizuno in my opinion.

  • @bootybandy
    @bootybandy Год назад +1

    Nice honest review Matt. Agree that the price is a little high and Mizuno missing a trick. Thanks for your time.

  • @BrandonM83
    @BrandonM83 Год назад +1

    I’d have to say my favorite clubs from were the old FP irons. And the older king ltd driver. 😎😎. Call me old school lol. I’m currrently playing a ping g30 driver. Mizuno Mx 20 tzoids. I love the older irons

  • @srenfriskmortensen8780
    @srenfriskmortensen8780 Год назад

    Hi Matt, could you elaborate on your swing speed / smash factor between the 220 and 230? I got the STG 220 and that is most likely staying this bag - It was a present from my wife and she will kill me if I already retired it already..

  • @stevewillis7684
    @stevewillis7684 Год назад

    Really like the look of this one compared to the other new releases.

  • @MikeBodo
    @MikeBodo Год назад

    Agree 100% with your comments regarding the price of the new Mizuno drivers. I purchased an STX-220 last summer when the price dropped from $499 USD to $299.00 and couldn't possibly be happier. I had an original Callaway Rogue prior to this, but the Mizuno STX-220 offset my fade bias and as a result I'm driving the ball longer and straighter than ever at 57 years of age. I'm also getting more roll out on the fairway due to the lower spin numbers. The new ST-230 drivers should be priced $100.00 below the big boys (Callaway, Taylor Made, Ping, Cobra, etc.) if they wish to gain market share and become a brand consumers take a serious look at when upgrading to a new driver. They, of all people, should realize Mizuno drivers don't command the same level of respect or prestige as their irons and wedges do and they're missing the mark by not pricing their drivers accordingly.

    • @davidgolf3245
      @davidgolf3245 Год назад

      Just curious do you have the STX 220 fairway woods? Asking because I am gaming the STX 220 5 fairway and crushing it. So I bought the STX 220 driver without hitting it. I am hoping I hit and like the driver as well as my fairway. Thoughts? Also bought the 2023 STX 230 driver just for the hell of it, but I did demo that and hit it well. Enjoy buying new clubs just for the heck of it.

    • @MikeBodo
      @MikeBodo Год назад

      @@davidgolf3245 No. I only have the driver, but am considering picking up the new STX 3-Wood this year. I really want to hit their new S23 wedges in hopes of having them augment my JPX-921 Forged iron set.

  • @Les-vp8si
    @Les-vp8si Год назад +1

    What about dispersion? longer carry usually means less accuracy.

  • @nathanlong-wade7176
    @nathanlong-wade7176 Год назад

    Great review Matt. What is your swing speed?

  • @jonathanhoneycutt7991
    @jonathanhoneycutt7991 Год назад

    Matt you are the man, love the content

  • @danielrice7409
    @danielrice7409 Год назад

    Nice review Matt. I've tried the last few iterations, ST200, STz220 and they just felt flat to me. Not bad just never got the sneaky long drives that make you smile.

  • @conalsands4748
    @conalsands4748 Год назад

    So even distance wise first - has anyone went from the 220 to 230 and noticed anything significant I have a new 220 but now thinking I should have waited for this but I'd feel better about it if I knew there wasn't much of a difference lol

  • @nelsonjames1272
    @nelsonjames1272 Год назад

    Gotta love these new club testing deals every year. So easy to play with numbers on a machine. Ridiculous numbers. lol

  • @marcferry2006
    @marcferry2006 Год назад

    What was the club speed for the both tests.

  • @GOLFADDICT65
    @GOLFADDICT65 Год назад

    great video....which driver head do you think would suit me most ? age is 58....9 to 11 handi cap....driver swing speed 90-94...hit a fairly high straight ball and currently use a regular flex shaft and spin rates of 2700 to 3200....cheers from Canada

  • @TheCjclaflin1
    @TheCjclaflin1 Год назад

    I’m curious how it compares to the STG 220

  • @jalenhodges3736
    @jalenhodges3736 Год назад

    $500 for a driver is pretty much the cheapest thing out now a days especially the way it performs. I feel like saying the putters are too expensive doesn't make sense either. Mizuno's putters are fully forged, face is milled, comes with a weight kit, and are still cheaper than 90% of the stuff out there.

  • @tjvbham5831
    @tjvbham5831 Год назад

    The Mizuno drivers do look good, but I need a fade bias, which isn't a feature. Love your reviews and look forward to your 2023 on course videos.

    • @jimppa86
      @jimppa86 Год назад +2

      Lofting it down will open the face and make it more of a fade bias

    • @thomasgodfrey758
      @thomasgodfrey758 Год назад +1

      It can be set up to fade

  • @cjizzle5436
    @cjizzle5436 Год назад

    How does it compare to paradym & stealth 2?

  • @zwiput
    @zwiput Год назад

    Beta titanium is a family of titanium alloys, they have a better forgeability than other Ti alloys. Perhaps Mizuno chose it for this reason?

  • @lancehrycko4408
    @lancehrycko4408 Год назад +1

    Where's the wilson review?

  • @maddo3448
    @maddo3448 Год назад

    Ok Matt so would you go from Titleist (TSI) to this product OR is it pointless ??

  • @RansomGetty
    @RansomGetty Год назад +2

    Isn't 1500 RPM of backspin sort of unplayable? That's a ridiculously low number.

    • @futurizo
      @futurizo Год назад

      furthermore, the Foresight algorithm is likely overcalculating the carry by quite a bit because of the low spin. known issue with their monitors.

  • @industrialpalletworx3548
    @industrialpalletworx3548 Год назад +1

    I wouldn't mind giving it a try, but I don't think it would out perform my TSi3. I think the speed game is about maxed out now with drivers. I think it's all about the forgiveness game at this point. At the end of the day, the max legal efficiency is still 1.5. That cannot be changed unless the governing bodies change it. So simply put 100 in 150 out. Price wise. Any of the manufacturers could serve customers better by dropping the prices. I bought new wedges in the fall. Custom ordered SM9's. I saw the price Titleist charged the pro, $120 shipped. I paid $160 to him. So he made $120 for doing nothing other than being the middle man. That, to me, is a problem for the golf industry, and no one seems interested in changing it. I'm sure other equipment and brands are the same way.

    • @thomasgodfrey758
      @thomasgodfrey758 Год назад

      Unless you understand his overhead and stocking costs he really isn’t doing “nothing “

    • @industrialpalletworx3548
      @industrialpalletworx3548 Год назад +1

      @Thomas Godfrey small shop that he said he owned. I understand the need to make a profit. I do metal art and build custom lights and other odds and ends. I get it. I was merely pointing out the disparity in price. Not to mention, it was still cheaper for me than any other website online. Basically, pointing out the markup, everyone is charging.

  • @wnfakind9197
    @wnfakind9197 Год назад

    Is one more forgiving then the other X or Z ?

  • @John_Wood_
    @John_Wood_ Год назад

    Tempted by the Mizuno ST220 drivers - great value on ebay.

  • @edanzore
    @edanzore 2 месяца назад

    Yes I bought one

  • @keithfinley2939
    @keithfinley2939 Год назад

    Maybe a custom fit with your apparel sponsor ?

  • @garycumberland8089
    @garycumberland8089 Год назад

    In the US they are up for $499

  • @steven-gerrard
    @steven-gerrard Год назад +1

    The price is way out of line for a "second tier" driver. No way people will pick this over the big driver brands.

  • @andrewmccullough9334
    @andrewmccullough9334 Год назад

    In the UK it looks like it's going to be a year to forget for Mizzy in the sales department then.

  • @victorpierson2722
    @victorpierson2722 Год назад

    Never knew it was called the running bird

  • @amalfi460
    @amalfi460 Год назад

    Other reviews show less distance……guess getting fitted is important

  • @paulmcgee1867
    @paulmcgee1867 Год назад

    Good ball speed for you?

  • @ski3504
    @ski3504 Год назад

    As forgiving as the G430 Max?

  • @dabdias
    @dabdias Год назад

    Distance estimates on GC3/quad are not reliable when spin is so low.

  • @markharsley7515
    @markharsley7515 Год назад +4

    All the new drivers are way overpriced for only 5 yards gain on last years models!,

    • @CheddarTeddy
      @CheddarTeddy Год назад

      Agree but these guys gotta make money to keep the lights on

    • @markharsley7515
      @markharsley7515 Год назад

      Maybe a £300 max rrrp might be a great idea?

  • @crazeswitch986
    @crazeswitch986 Год назад

    Shame about the price to close to top boys and they need to get people wanting to stock this and people to try them

  • @GolfingMalky
    @GolfingMalky Год назад

    Nice looking clubs but not for me.
    Good review Matt

  • @psmgolfdad
    @psmgolfdad Год назад

    Looks a great driver with great performance but £499! Wow 😮

  • @cameronloveless1751
    @cameronloveless1751 Год назад +1

    Those spin numbers are too low for the course. No wonder you’re leaning towards the X Matt

  • @dominickdelfino7552
    @dominickdelfino7552 Год назад

    The older model was very forgiving I am playing it now, did you notice any loss of forgiveness?

  • @awesomebillfromdawsonville8715

    Driver pricing is getting out of hand. It seems only Srixon and Tour edge can make drivers perform at lower prices.

  • @timhayes6028
    @timhayes6028 Год назад

    My OCD is going mad here mate. Can you straighten those pictures behind you and make the gaps a bit more equal please!!?? I can't concentrate!

  • @Longsox
    @Longsox Год назад

    Has there ever been a driver made outside of the regulations to conform?
    A non gimmick one?
    Nice review as always Matt 🤙🏻

    • @mulvihillmatt
      @mulvihillmatt Год назад +1

      Callaway ERC 2. Was initially illegal, then they thought it would be legal, then it was confirmed as illegal.

  • @adamcooke969
    @adamcooke969 Год назад

    Could someone put me out of my misery which course is that head cover from on the bottom shelf?

  • @R_J_G
    @R_J_G Год назад

    $500 in the US. Not that bad

  • @samdevictor7153
    @samdevictor7153 Год назад

    $499 in US.

  • @paulgolfer
    @paulgolfer Год назад

    Matt ,
    Paul here I would like to see you finch shiels have a go at the 50 balls hole in one and 14 club challenge again or the likes of . WHY , well your all out of your comfort zone.
    paul

  • @VideosbyStew
    @VideosbyStew Год назад

    Have the ST/200, kill it w/ a slight draw, no reason to change. Driver tech has stalled I think...

  • @richief1957
    @richief1957 Год назад

    Hmmm

  • @danpatmac
    @danpatmac Год назад

    Why are so many golf youtubers unable to correctly pronounce PERformance?
    It's not PREformance.

  • @christophersiegert8343
    @christophersiegert8343 Год назад

    Nothing carrying 290 with 1500 spin lol cmon.

  • @jamiehayward6261
    @jamiehayward6261 Год назад

    Matt you’ve got a lot of spam popping up on your older videos bud

  • @codycook3382
    @codycook3382 Год назад +12

    1500 spin is completely unplayable on the course. If this driver really carries that much further than the previous generation it really proves how bad the 220 really was! The crazy marketing of these companies doesn't even make claims of 15 to 20 yards of distance from one generation to the next!

    • @JiKimbo
      @JiKimbo Год назад

      Probably a daft question, but why would 1500rpm be unplayable?

    • @codycook3382
      @codycook3382 Год назад +2

      When your backspin is below 2000 the ball is unstable in the air. It makes it much easier to hit hooks and fades. If you want to keep the ball our planet 1500 spin is much much too low.

    • @JiKimbo
      @JiKimbo Год назад

      @@codycook3382 thanks for the explanation!

    • @charliehart2311
      @charliehart2311 Год назад

      So it just makes it more of a players driver? Not unplayable for a scratch or plus handicapper?

    • @conalsands4748
      @conalsands4748 Год назад

      Do you need a swing speed of more than 105 to get thus driver working like it should

  • @lofnsjoke
    @lofnsjoke Год назад

    Are you sponsored by Mizuno?

  • @SomethingEveryone
    @SomethingEveryone Год назад

    I enjoy Matt's instructional videos but his reviews are completely tainted by brown envelopes

  • @johnkochanski22
    @johnkochanski22 8 месяцев назад

    I think they should do the carbon in blue

  • @M82RKY
    @M82RKY Год назад

    Totally agree, they should be priced cheaper than Cobra to sell more

  • @frankielambardo9268
    @frankielambardo9268 9 месяцев назад

    The cortex chamber is the real deal.