Your personal history museum of your work past is awesome. I wish the machines were all inside and restored, but there’s not enough time in the day for all that! Thanks for the knowledge, as a 28 year old wood worker who is collecting big (heaviest is a 4500lb planer) 3 phase machinery, and learning to use it, I find videos like these incredibly informative.
What ever you do I was told the most important PPE yiu have is your brain. Unfortunately too many times I've forgotten to engage it first. Especially when i opened my mouth.
I do a lot of welding and grinding and have grown to love a full face mask.. and a welders beanie… because I hate all those hot chips hitting my face and head.
Well said John, I often hear people talk about never wearing long sleeves in the shop, great advice in warm weather but like you I live where it gets cold. My machine shop in winter is only semi heated with an electric fan heater, it might get up to mid 30s at best when it's single digits out. Also many times I have done portable work, keyway mill, mag drill, line boring etc outside, when it's below freezing you can't tell me it's safe to work in short sleeves, yeah you won't get wound up but I can bet you will cause plenty of other problems for your body.
Exactly. Not every shop is climate controlled. Just be mindful about it. If you're getting intimate with the machine, like ~ filing on the lathe ~ of course roll up the sleeves. Same goes for gloves.
Yeah as soon as you say that someone chimes in that you can't make good parts unless it's climate controlled.... yeah for some stuff but when it's an excavator that works outside year round you can't tell me it won't work when it gets cold, obviously need to be conscious of it and make sure your parts you are fitting are the same temperature but it most certainly can be done
We try so hard to make sure that everyone can be safe without putting any effort into the process. I feel like that behavior, while beneficial to people without common sense, only acts as an incubator for dependence on the policy. We can't bring up young machinists, mechanics, or operators to rely on someone else's safety rules else they will fail the first time they have to think on their own. All these safety rules help the lowest common denominator avoid having to build their own safety plan. That scares the hell out of me.
@@zeitgeist2720 Obviously all safety policies are written in blood. Humans are not so good at proactively identifying risk but we're really good at making rules after the fact. Take fire code for example - One dies after he can't get out of a burning building because the boss locked the doors to prevent employees taking breaks. Now we have signs that say "this door to remain unlocked during biz hours". Most people have no idea why that policy exists. If we teach the reason for the rule versus just beating the rule into someone's head then they are more likely to keep themselves and everyone around them safe.
Absolutely true. I wear gloves in the shop a lot. I don't put my hands near rotating equipment. No reason to. Hands go on the controls only. Machine gets turned off to change it parts or cutters
Go to a CNC production shop and the operators are wearing basketball shorts, tshirts, and sneakers lol. They dont even have the ability to put tools in their pockets because they'll pull their shorts down.
That’s why production sucks…. Dealing with the thugs. Had a few employees come and go found them pocketing end mills found them on Facebook marketplace was my 600 dollar boring bar was online for sale for the price of a new bar. The idiot was so cocky he wouldn’t get caught he still came into work. Pulled him into my office and fired him. Had to hire an attourney since he thought he was wrongfully terminated. Longest year of my life. Spent more money than I’d like to admit had all The evidence and I won all that over an employee who worked for me for a month
Wow you and I seen to have some things in common - I once helped unwind a young fellow from a radial arm drill pretty much like the one you have there. He was drilling 1” holes in 1” copper bus bars wearing gloves.broke his arm and hand in several places I can’t still remember the meat and leather in the drill flutes
I saw a man wrap his hand up wearing gloves doing secondary work on a small drill press. He was moved from assembly to the machine shop to help out. Messed him up pretty good. Never saw him again.
I'll never wear gloves around a lathe, but I'll wear nitirles on a mill if I'm doing finishing passes on nasty stainless or dusty, fibrous materials, like CFRP or fiberglass.
From a Master Toolmaker, everything between fingertips and elbows had better be flesh only. No rings, no watches, no bracelets, no long sleeves, no long hair, no shirts with pockets, no pants with cuffs, no necklaces, no lanyards, no aprons, no shirt tails not tucked in. That gets you a 3 day unpaid vacation. I've had to pick up a pinky finger in time to ice it and apprentice got it reattached. This is not a game. They have exactly zero mercy for being a dumbass. Which is why we are so hard on apprentices on safety. Had to dress down an apprentice the other day for leaving a chuck key in a lathe and taking his hand off of it. Quickest way to get fired. A lot of machines in a shop can kill you, but a lathe is looking forward to it, and it doesn't have any memory or mercy.
Back when I was taking shop classes in high school, the manuals had pictures of machinists with their neckties carefully tucked into their shirt fronts to avoid getting them caught in stuff. I guess that's not much of a problem these days :-)
Because the weather is outside? I wish I had room inside for all my stuff, but I just don't & it's too good for the scrap bin. Most machinery dealers selling older high end machines leave them outside for years, bring them inside clean & paint, not good, but better than total destruction. I already have a radial in the shop, I got it about 8 years before this one became available.
Blue hot chips popping off all day long. Three foot diameter gear blank on a Bullard. Sooner or later a chip will go down your glove. Worked with a guy who lost an arm wearing long sleeves. You are only allowed one mistake on a punch press. Pull back cables saved a lot of fingers.
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Great video: I committed to little safety rituals with every machine I use. A little patience is worth it.
Your personal history museum of your work past is awesome. I wish the machines were all inside and restored, but there’s not enough time in the day for all that! Thanks for the knowledge, as a 28 year old wood worker who is collecting big (heaviest is a 4500lb planer) 3 phase machinery, and learning to use it, I find videos like these incredibly informative.
Based username, keep up the good work woodbro.
-Cameraman
@@HOWEES based reply using the word based, hope y’all are havin a good day in the shop
Who remembers the Cat film “Shake Hands with Danger”?
Everyone should watch that
We still have them in safety class at work
That's why they call me three finger joe lol
Pepper ridge farm remembers.
We had that same drill press in our shop, awesome machine!
What ever you do I was told the most important PPE yiu have is your brain. Unfortunately too many times I've forgotten to engage it first. Especially when i opened my mouth.
I do a lot of welding and grinding and have grown to love a full face mask.. and a welders beanie… because I hate all those hot chips hitting my face and head.
That was an amazing drill press story. Amazing how precise it is, lol.
Well said John, I often hear people talk about never wearing long sleeves in the shop, great advice in warm weather but like you I live where it gets cold. My machine shop in winter is only semi heated with an electric fan heater, it might get up to mid 30s at best when it's single digits out. Also many times I have done portable work, keyway mill, mag drill, line boring etc outside, when it's below freezing you can't tell me it's safe to work in short sleeves, yeah you won't get wound up but I can bet you will cause plenty of other problems for your body.
Exactly. Not every shop is climate controlled. Just be mindful about it. If you're getting intimate with the machine, like ~ filing on the lathe ~ of course roll up the sleeves.
Same goes for gloves.
Yeah as soon as you say that someone chimes in that you can't make good parts unless it's climate controlled.... yeah for some stuff but when it's an excavator that works outside year round you can't tell me it won't work when it gets cold, obviously need to be conscious of it and make sure your parts you are fitting are the same temperature but it most certainly can be done
Moral of the story. Use your head for more then a hat rack!
We try so hard to make sure that everyone can be safe without putting any effort into the process. I feel like that behavior, while beneficial to people without common sense, only acts as an incubator for dependence on the policy. We can't bring up young machinists, mechanics, or operators to rely on someone else's safety rules else they will fail the first time they have to think on their own.
All these safety rules help the lowest common denominator avoid having to build their own safety plan. That scares the hell out of me.
What are you yappin about. Those policies are all written in blood
@@zeitgeist2720 Obviously all safety policies are written in blood.
Humans are not so good at proactively identifying risk but we're really good at making rules after the fact. Take fire code for example - One dies after he can't get out of a burning building because the boss locked the doors to prevent employees taking breaks. Now we have signs that say "this door to remain unlocked during biz hours". Most people have no idea why that policy exists.
If we teach the reason for the rule versus just beating the rule into someone's head then they are more likely to keep themselves and everyone around them safe.
Absolutely true. I wear gloves in the shop a lot. I don't put my hands near rotating equipment. No reason to. Hands go on the controls only. Machine gets turned off to change it parts or cutters
Go to a CNC production shop and the operators are wearing basketball shorts, tshirts, and sneakers lol. They dont even have the ability to put tools in their pockets because they'll pull their shorts down.
That’s why production sucks…. Dealing with the thugs. Had a few employees come and go found them pocketing end mills found them on Facebook marketplace was my 600 dollar boring bar was online for sale for the price of a new bar. The idiot was so cocky he wouldn’t get caught he still came into work. Pulled him into my office and fired him. Had to hire an attourney since he thought he was wrongfully terminated. Longest year of my life. Spent more money than I’d like to admit had all
The evidence and I won all that over an employee who worked for me for a month
As a safety manager, this was a very informative video.
Wow you and I seen to have some things in common - I once helped unwind a young fellow from a radial arm drill pretty much like the one you have there. He was drilling 1” holes in 1” copper bus bars wearing gloves.broke his arm and hand in several places I can’t still remember the meat and leather in the drill flutes
I saw a man wrap his hand up wearing gloves doing secondary work on a small drill press. He was moved from assembly to the machine shop to help out. Messed him up pretty good. Never saw him again.
Awesome, thanks John! It works the same in Aviation. mitigate risk to an acceptable level
I'll never wear gloves around a lathe, but I'll wear nitirles on a mill if I'm doing finishing passes on nasty stainless or dusty, fibrous materials, like CFRP or fiberglass.
Another thing is to keep the forest out of the shop.
From a Master Toolmaker, everything between fingertips and elbows had better be flesh only. No rings, no watches, no bracelets, no long sleeves, no long hair, no shirts with pockets, no pants with cuffs, no necklaces, no lanyards, no aprons, no shirt tails not tucked in. That gets you a 3 day unpaid vacation. I've had to pick up a pinky finger in time to ice it and apprentice got it reattached. This is not a game. They have exactly zero mercy for being a dumbass. Which is why we are so hard on apprentices on safety. Had to dress down an apprentice the other day for leaving a chuck key in a lathe and taking his hand off of it. Quickest way to get fired. A lot of machines in a shop can kill you, but a lathe is looking forward to it, and it doesn't have any memory or mercy.
thesis wonderful John.......stay dry....and stay fun....
To be a machinist you need to use common sense and listen to good teachers like this man!
Back when I was taking shop classes in high school, the manuals had pictures of machinists with their neckties carefully tucked into their shirt fronts to avoid getting them caught in stuff. I guess that's not much of a problem these days :-)
Even as a deck officer, I was taught to put my tie in my shirt at the 2nd button if I was even going to walk through a machinery space.
Depending on the job I wear tight fitting coveralls with the sleeves cutoff at the elbow. To coveralls that fit like a tent and gloves.
i use the same fosdick radial drill in my shop in Argentina, what a great WW2 machine, and use globes every day to
Haven’t heard that name in a very long time.
Why is the machine outdoors in the weather?
Because the weather is outside? I wish I had room inside for all my stuff, but I just don't & it's too good for the scrap bin. Most machinery dealers selling older high end machines leave them outside for years, bring them inside clean & paint, not good, but better than total destruction. I already have a radial in the shop, I got it about 8 years before this one became available.
It really is the best drill press in town. No one can do what that old drill press can do. LoL.
What is a brain? I don't think I have one of those. Can you tell me where i can buy one? Is it a Snap-on product?
Nothing like being responsible for your actions
That looks like a radial drill. Not a drill press.
Gym shorts a cut off tee and a snapback in the summer cargo pants in the winter
Did Howee just morph into a dog?
Strange things happen under the Northern lights
Where is your bow tie?
No matter what anyone says, go with short sleeves.
Happy machining.
Especially in -40°F.
@@pontiacsuperchief9532 especially if a machinist still wants to have all fingers after a shift.
Blue hot chips popping off all day long. Three foot diameter gear blank on a Bullard.
Sooner or later a chip will go down your glove. Worked with a guy who lost an arm wearing long sleeves. You are only allowed one mistake on a punch press. Pull back cables saved a lot of fingers.
I think brains are optional if you were born after 2000!