I liked this video. Enjoyed that you made Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo as strong at least with canon Gohan but probably stronger. Would love to see a What if with Goten and Trunks on their greater potential than Gohan. What if they mastered SS3 for example?
The frieza Force was struggling to survive without Frieza and mentioned that they where low on troops and struggling with rebellions during resurrection of f so it's likely by the time Battle of gods passes that they would have outright collapsed by that point and there wouldn't be an empire anymore to revive Frieza. Or they would have just revived the emperor on the same time as Canon since the Androids didn't kill off the dragon balls in this version but that would just result in Frieza murdering everybody.
It's nice to see Goten and Trunks been relevant in the what if along with the idea of Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo get the Ultimate Form too. But I don't know. I would think with Goku been alive I feel like Gohan would have continue to train, but it's balance out with studies because he had to really on everybody again to stop the Androids. Anyways another good one-shot, and looking forward to your next video soon. What if suggestion: What if Future Gohan survived?
I honestly don't think Gohan would train because there was a 19 year time skip (for some reason I think there should be 7 years) so he just won't, because it was too peaceful at that time and there is no motivation for him to train. So he is just the Nerd boi.
I think we're also exaggerating Goten/Trunks' interest in fighting in this video. in End of Z both would rather just chill and go on dates than fighting and I think if anything the world being more peaceful by the time they're born would keep them weaker and less needing to fight, especially since in the buu saga bulma states he's 'trying to get Trunks to surpass Gohan' but in this version he doesn't do crap so I think all three of the saiyan boys would be rather weak and laid back. Ultimate Piccolo would be sick though and I can totally believe that. great video overall! Enjoyed this a lot!
Although it's a very creative approach broach, one thing you can always tell 1 thing you can always tell about "what ifs" are who the creator are who the creators favorite characters are... Good work though
I just can’t imagine vegeta being ok to train with goku during this time of the series. The relationship didn’t really start to develop till the end of Z
This was actually really good keep it up man! If I may, can i suggest a what-if? "What if Future Goten was born?" (What I mean by that is What if Goten was born before Goku died of the Heart Virus in the Future Timeline!)
I got suggested this vid 2 years after it was released! But honestly I think what would actually happen would simply be Goku and Vegeta would go to fight the androids, and the Androids would honestly just kill Goku and Vegeta. Vegeta would be too stubborn to leave the fight, Goku would have too much to handle trying to also fight and get Vegeta to retreat against opponents that are more than likely several times stronger than they are. Whose energy they can't sense. It's possible Tien doesn't even have the Shin kikoho as he didn't have the warning about the Androids. And even if he did have it it would be difficult to use it without hitting his teammates, which is why he didn't use it during the initial fight against the mainline Androids. (Or Toriyama hadn't come up with the move yet) Also it's kind of a toss up if the future androids were actually weaker or not. Trunks said that the main timeline Androids were stronger, but he also was shown doing zero damage to the future Androids, and in the manga version when Future Gohan stated he had gotten much stronger than the last time he fought the Androids, they outright said they were holding back. And he died off panel. A much less dignified send off from the anime version. But even the anime version showed Trunks doing nothing to two Androids toying with him. Him literally punching a smiling 17 and 18 in the face and them not budging. It's possible if Goku and Vegeta could get away, and they could go to the time chamber to train that they could get strong enough to defeat them, more than likely both Goku and Vegeta would be base weaker when they entered. Vegeta potentially less so than Goku. They might exit the chamber and be even with the Androids, or vastly stronger. It's hard to say honestly. I actually do think Piccolo would fuse with Kami like in the original. However Piccolo would die if he went to go fight 17 and 18 alone. While Goku and Vegeta recovered from the first battle, or they went into the chamber. It's also possible that the androids knew about Kami's look out within their data. Which is why Future Gohan never got told by King Kai/Goku to use it for training.
Wouldn't ultimate goten and trunks be strong enough to fight golden frieza in the rof arc because they constantly train in their ultimate forms even longer than gohan did for year
Probably but tbf I think they would do way more intense training post rof due to frieza bopping them like gohan. I dont think theyd train everday by that point but Piccolo could theoretically hold his own. Lowkey makes Goten and Trunks's arcs of stepping up to be a bit better
@@zedmiller7924 i dont think that matters really since kid goten was shown to keep up with early adult gohan. The anatomy thing doesnt really work that well for db standards
Good story, but I never understand these scenarios why Gohan and Videl end up together without Gohan’s mystique regarding his involvement in the cell games. That is her fascination with him after all. Well that and Saiyaman
I like the theory saying that Android 19 and 20 attacked in the future timeline and were defeated by future Vegeta and the others, then Gero ran, the Z-warriors underestimating him, and had some time to reprogramm 18 and 17, making them a little bit more cruel, explaining why they were a bunch of *ssholes in the future timeline.
IT doesn't matter if both Goku and Vegeta lost to the Androids, Vegeta at this point is still Evil and his Pride would not allow him to train with Goku because he hates him so much! Vegeta would demand to go in the Room first just like in Canon and he would come out and destroy the Androids in his Grade 2 form. Then wait for Goku to Come out of the ROST and challenge Grade 4 Goku to a fight and lose. The only way this story works is if you change Vegeta entire personality at this point in the story!
Twisted metal Head on psp vs androids 17 and 18 who will win? Twisted metal Head on why cuz they have special weapons and Twister is the most powerful special in the game.
It seems you don’t know how cell works, cause you said that they would kill him easily, which is not true as cell would have the DNA of beerus, goku with god ki and the others that means he would eay stronger than canon cell
Tylearn you have things wrong one trunks was born before the androids showed up, since goku was there he still wound have trained gohan for super saiyan but it would have been a less intense training and goten was born in the same year as trunks
take the z fighters to yadrat they can take turns and the other world the grand kais planet lets say king yenma allows it becuse the z fighters were sacrificing their lifes so all of them train
@@Tylearn I know that but in the anime I think they said from fighting not normal human problems but there is also the fact it doesn't matter since it your what if but ok
Didn’t watch video but yeah. If future goku survived, wouldn’t it just be similar to the main timeline? Edit: nevermind I kinda forgot the fact that future trunks isn’t there to tell them to prepare for the androids. Sorry I’m dumb
learn the kai techniques and abilities ffom old kai supreme kai and kibito if iam not wrong the old kais techniques are different because he fused with an old witcch so
@@cryingmetal9349 so can naruto, literally before the six path amp he was around planetary because of scaling above kurama no jinchuriki who can turn the world to ash with six path amp he’s wayyy above that
That is not how goku's character is at that point, his character changed during the heart virus and that made him look at the younger saiyans to become the next protectors of earth.
Vegeta: "HOW KAKORAT... I train just as hard as you.. HARDER! And yet, despite my efforts, you always manage to surpass me. ANSWER ME KAKORAT! *Camera pans to the bathroom where Goku is injecting Steroids, TRT, EPO, and drinking mixture of Senzu beans with tiger Semen*
12:03 forgot to edit that out 😭😭😭
Here's a tissue and it's fine it is not a huge problem
I don’t get it
Finally! I’ve always been wanting someone to make a what-if about Future Goku surviving the the heart virus, or not getting it at all.
I love how you redoing your old what ifs
its great, shows how far this channel has come
@@Tylearn from copper to gold dude.
In this timeline Gohan LITERALLY doesn't do grap.
Cause he wouldn’t
If future Goku survive then imo, Trunks would NEVER need to go back in time. 👍👍
*agreed*
Then that means
The Goku we know would die
@unspeakable Flame 2 Hey that’s pretty true
But Past Goku Would Die by the Heart Virus ;-;
@@Baeteen I think the normal timeline is a different timeline and the future one is the real one
I never saw this on your channel but this ofcourse is going to be better so better watch this
Kaiox i have ssj4 gogeta and Kefla who do you have i have alredy stop summoning
11:14
Cell TFS
Yamcha? Out of everyone you chose him? He wasn't even on the list. Gohan was on the list!
Gohan: Why was I? I didn't even really train.
@@dragondavid2244
Cell
Half time entertainment!
@@legohunter1020gohan: frankly im just happy to be included
I liked this video. Enjoyed that you made Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo as strong at least with canon Gohan but probably stronger.
Would love to see a What if with Goten and Trunks on their greater potential than Gohan. What if they mastered SS3 for example?
The long awaited video
The frieza Force was struggling to survive without Frieza and mentioned that they where low on troops and struggling with rebellions during resurrection of f so it's likely by the time Battle of gods passes that they would have outright collapsed by that point and there wouldn't be an empire anymore to revive Frieza. Or they would have just revived the emperor on the same time as Canon since the Androids didn't kill off the dragon balls in this version but that would just result in Frieza murdering everybody.
Facts lol
Been waiting for this.
I enjoyed this a lot Tylearn, Goku and Vegeta boding the androids after training, nice
0:25 Cool intro collecting rings like sonic
Intro is fire as always
I liked this and the fact there is no Fusion dance makes it better.
It's nice to see Goten and Trunks been relevant in the what if along with the idea of Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo get the Ultimate Form too. But I don't know. I would think with Goku been alive I feel like Gohan would have continue to train, but it's balance out with studies because he had to really on everybody again to stop the Androids. Anyways another good one-shot, and looking forward to your next video soon.
What if suggestion:
What if Future Gohan survived?
I honestly don't think Gohan would train because there was a 19 year time skip (for some reason I think there should be 7 years) so he just won't, because it was too peaceful at that time and there is no motivation for him to train. So he is just the Nerd boi.
I think we're also exaggerating Goten/Trunks' interest in fighting in this video. in End of Z both would rather just chill and go on dates than fighting and I think if anything the world being more peaceful by the time they're born would keep them weaker and less needing to fight, especially since in the buu saga bulma states he's 'trying to get Trunks to surpass Gohan' but in this version he doesn't do crap so I think all three of the saiyan boys would be rather weak and laid back. Ultimate Piccolo would be sick though and I can totally believe that.
great video overall! Enjoyed this a lot!
Although it's a very creative approach broach, one thing you can always tell 1 thing you can always tell about "what ifs" are who the creator are who the creators favorite characters are...
Good work though
I just can’t imagine vegeta being ok to train with goku during this time of the series. The relationship didn’t really start to develop till the end of Z
Future Goku should come bacc later on with some new angel form for being dead for that long 💯
I just want to say. As a long time subscriber your audio quality has gotten WAY better! Good job! also this video is great!
This was actually really good keep it up man! If I may, can i suggest a what-if? "What if Future Goten was born?" (What I mean by that is What if Goten was born before Goku died of the Heart Virus in the Future Timeline!)
I REALLY wanna draw or commission someone to draw this what-if story one day :') Goku and Vegeta vs 18 and 17 gives me Meta Cooler vibes!
Gohan should had a role in the story in my opinion to be fair
Tien The goat for that save 😭
Thx for the vid
Goku dosen't say ssj grade 2 and 3 are trash he just say that these grades are far too slow
and take too much stamina
Grade 4 is also shown to be stronger though. It saves stamina and is just stronger, we can debate this if you want
@@Tylearn I agree with you on that one
@@ludicrous23 I was asking the other guy 😭
@@Tylearn omg im so dumb 😐😐😑😑😣😥😥😖😖😖😖😱😱😱😱😰😰😭😭😭😭🥺🥺🤧🤧🤧😒😒😒😪😪😪😯😯😯🤔🤔🤔😌😌😌
I got suggested this vid 2 years after it was released! But honestly I think what would actually happen would simply be Goku and Vegeta would go to fight the androids, and the Androids would honestly just kill Goku and Vegeta. Vegeta would be too stubborn to leave the fight, Goku would have too much to handle trying to also fight and get Vegeta to retreat against opponents that are more than likely several times stronger than they are. Whose energy they can't sense.
It's possible Tien doesn't even have the Shin kikoho as he didn't have the warning about the Androids. And even if he did have it it would be difficult to use it without hitting his teammates, which is why he didn't use it during the initial fight against the mainline Androids. (Or Toriyama hadn't come up with the move yet)
Also it's kind of a toss up if the future androids were actually weaker or not. Trunks said that the main timeline Androids were stronger, but he also was shown doing zero damage to the future Androids, and in the manga version when Future Gohan stated he had gotten much stronger than the last time he fought the Androids, they outright said they were holding back. And he died off panel. A much less dignified send off from the anime version. But even the anime version showed Trunks doing nothing to two Androids toying with him. Him literally punching a smiling 17 and 18 in the face and them not budging.
It's possible if Goku and Vegeta could get away, and they could go to the time chamber to train that they could get strong enough to defeat them, more than likely both Goku and Vegeta would be base weaker when they entered. Vegeta potentially less so than Goku. They might exit the chamber and be even with the Androids, or vastly stronger. It's hard to say honestly. I actually do think Piccolo would fuse with Kami like in the original. However Piccolo would die if he went to go fight 17 and 18 alone. While Goku and Vegeta recovered from the first battle, or they went into the chamber. It's also possible that the androids knew about Kami's look out within their data. Which is why Future Gohan never got told by King Kai/Goku to use it for training.
Wouldn't ultimate goten and trunks be strong enough to fight golden frieza in the rof arc because they constantly train in their ultimate forms even longer than gohan did for year
Probably but tbf I think they would do way more intense training post rof due to frieza bopping them like gohan. I dont think theyd train everday by that point but Piccolo could theoretically hold his own. Lowkey makes Goten and Trunks's arcs of stepping up to be a bit better
but because of there size and age they wudnt have that much potienal like adult gohan
@@Tylearn I getcha, also great video
@@zedmiller7924 i dont think that matters really since kid goten was shown to keep up with early adult gohan. The anatomy thing doesnt really work that well for db standards
Love how Gohan is still being slept on
Lmao. All these special attacks from every one.. and **Piccolo uses "kick"**
This is interesting
I like this what if Story good Job 🙂
Why wasnt Gohan in the TOP? If he was weak, just send him into the HTC with Piccolo and he'll whip Gohan back into shape
Good story, but I never understand these scenarios why Gohan and Videl end up together without Gohan’s mystique regarding his involvement in the cell games. That is her fascination with him after all. Well that and Saiyaman
He would be saiyaman
Trunks was born 6 months before the Android attack
Tylearn you know the future androids aren't weaker they always held back like Android 17 using 50% the whole time and killed him alone
piccolo for some reason couldn't handle being in the time chamber by himself
I'm late to the video lol but great video
I like the theory saying that Android 19 and 20 attacked in the future timeline and were defeated by future Vegeta and the others, then Gero ran, the Z-warriors underestimating him, and had some time to reprogramm 18 and 17, making them a little bit more cruel, explaining why they were a bunch of *ssholes in the future timeline.
This is Gohan’s most wasted potential I’ve ever seen
He literally doesn’t want to train bro 😭
@@Tylearn bro so he never gets ssj in this story 😳
Yes
HEAT 🔥
But Gohan has more potential than vegeta
You should do what if gohan kept training
I wish goku never caught the heart virus
Banger
IT doesn't matter if both Goku and Vegeta lost to the Androids, Vegeta at this point is still Evil and his Pride would not allow him to train with Goku because he hates him so much! Vegeta would demand to go in the Room first just like in Canon and he would come out and destroy the Androids in his Grade 2 form. Then wait for Goku to Come out of the ROST and challenge Grade 4 Goku to a fight and lose. The only way this story works is if you change Vegeta entire personality at this point in the story!
Another difference between timelines is 18 was actually stronger. At least that’s how it was in the history of trunks
Twisted metal Head on psp vs androids 17 and 18 who will win? Twisted metal Head on why cuz they have special weapons and Twister is the most powerful special in the game.
Ayo tylearn remember me uhhh hey
You could of brought in the cell cuz he collects data of the z warriors in the labs basement. Good video though chief
I got hear early for once
Wheres part 3 of if Naruto had eyes of the lord? I subscribed
i was hoping that cell is in the tournament of power
If Goku survived the heart virus. Then the androids would of killed him, unless plot.
instant transmission
Please Give Us Part 2 Tylearn
How
@@Tylearn Anyway Possible Cause Part 1 Was Simply "Amazing"
Can you do soul eater What if's Because the anime has a really good story
Don't really agree with how this story went but still cool
It seems you don’t know how cell works, cause you said that they would kill him easily, which is not true as cell would have the DNA of beerus, goku with god ki and the others that means he would eay stronger than canon cell
1st ha!
Yes you are congrats
😈
So gohan is weak as f🅱️ck? Damn, I mean hey he wanted to spend time with his family and do his job so now his the new yamcha
You also forgot that cell would be getting new DNA from the aliens and gods of Destruction and Kai's so he should be a lot stronger
What if 16 bomb wasn’t removed.
Trunks was already born by the time Goku got the heart virus year it was goten that wasn't born yet
Can you do a what if woody never pushed buzz of the window?
I was like number 1000
Aren't you forgetting about Cell?
I mentioned him literally😭
@@Tylearn I jumped the gun & realized you mentioned it later after the buu ark.
What if 16 decided to still kill goku after repair.
0:42 how did goku get a zenkai? Saiyans dont get stronger from near death experiences.
If im wrong i apologize
Tylearn you have things wrong one trunks was born before the androids showed up, since goku was there he still wound have trained gohan for super saiyan but it would have been a less intense training and goten was born in the same year as trunks
What if 16 never gave that speech or never got crushed
take the z fighters to yadrat they can take turns and the other world the grand kais planet lets say king yenma allows it becuse the z fighters were sacrificing their lifes so all of them train
Could you do that " What if krillin kept training "
It’s coming dw
What if goku was born with bardock THE BRILLANT SCIENTIST’S non canon power level of 10,000.
Hiya
Goku should of mixed his master super saiyan form with kaioken aganst vegeta
I thought you only gets zenkai boosts if you are on a near death experience from fighting
The heart virus is a life threatening experience
@@Tylearn I know that but in the anime I think they said from fighting not normal human problems but there is also the fact it doesn't matter since it your what if but ok
Didn’t watch video but yeah. If future goku survived, wouldn’t it just be similar to the main timeline?
Edit: nevermind I kinda forgot the fact that future trunks isn’t there to tell them to prepare for the androids. Sorry I’m dumb
learn the kai techniques and abilities ffom old kai supreme kai and kibito if iam not wrong the old kais techniques are different because he fused with an old witcch so
so if goku didnt die then future trunks would have never gone to past and gohan would never have become super saiyan
Hokage Naruto Vs Heart Virus Weakened Android Arc Super Saiyan Goku who would win?
G o k u
@@cryingmetal9349 nah hokage naruto g
@@Jsipki265 Goku can blow up planets even when weakened
@@cryingmetal9349 so can naruto, literally before the six path amp he was around planetary because of scaling above kurama no jinchuriki who can turn the world to ash with six path amp he’s wayyy above that
@@Jsipki265 Goku is over planetary level also while weakened
If Future Goku was still Alive He can Beat the Androids whit gohan
First I guess
Broly movie and Moro arc?
It makes u wonder
Can u do what if Naruto killed the raikage
Let go this alsome
Why did he not use Instant Transmission to get them out of there?
Instant transmission an android away then jump said android then rinse and repeat
rosat since trunks wa still a baby so vegeta would train with goku reluctantly in the rosat since it is for the fate of the earth
Haha y e s
Future Goku Died Because He Got Sick
i was really hoping gohan with erasa and videl with future trunks and videl
Are you God or something?
“Yea, yea, I feel like god yuh”
What if tapion was cannon
You're probably not doing Cobra kai 'What ifs' but if you do then can you make "What if Miguel returned the Medal to Sam?"
That is not how goku's character is at that point, his character changed during the heart virus and that made him look at the younger saiyans to become the next protectors of earth.
Supreme kais are fodder
First 😴!!!
Vegeta: "HOW KAKORAT... I train just as hard as you.. HARDER! And yet, despite my efforts, you always manage to surpass me. ANSWER ME KAKORAT!
*Camera pans to the bathroom where Goku is injecting Steroids, TRT, EPO, and drinking mixture of Senzu beans with tiger Semen*
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