Historic win for Federer, Djokovic was in the form for a Grand Slam that year and it took Federer to stop his winning run of 43 matches. Great performance.
One of the top 3 if not the best match ever to be played. Sensational rallies, sensational level of play. I love this so much, especially how Roger celebrates his victory =)
incredible match between these two. I remember watching it on television. You could really tell that these two players were on a mission. One of the most enjoyable matches I've seen in the last 10 years. Body language says it all.
What an incredible match! Probably my fav Fed match ever, considering the how huge this match was in terms of Fed breaking Djokers ~44 match winning streak but some ridiculous tennis! The variety and finesse of Federer's game is just stunning
Ethan Harris Such a waste. He was playing the best clay court tennis of his career in those two weeks. Good enough to beat rafa, even, but finding a way to lose that first set reset their dynamic to normal. i.e. rafa bullying and fed scrambling. He was very close to ultimate glory at this tournament. Can you imagine, ending peak djokovic winning streak then beating rafa at the french? Fed would have been deified for that.
+butterflycaught900 it's a mental thing. He couldn't dominate him like he could everyone else in his early career and from that day forward couldn't find a solution.
+Harry Potter Hard to be the same mentally when you clearly have deteriorated in speed and from the baseline in general and have to rely on an extremely aggressive game
butterflycaught900 It's right up there but I would put his match in Rome 2006 against Nadal above this one in terms of level of play..He did lose it in the end but it was really tight and he blew up important points in the end..This was against the beast version of the greatest clay court player of all time
One the most beautiful match in tennis history.. peRFect. PS Look the Roger forehand..sigh today lose much power (Federer can't beat the time that passes).
If only Roger had won the final after this. I feel like that might have enabled him to win a few more slams than just the one at Wimbledon in 2012, and it would have without any question cemented his position as the greatest of all time.
kjartanize Not really. Federer played better than this in the 2006 Rome Master Series final against Nadal; unluckily for him, he was up against the greatest player on clay courts of all time in his prime; and that's how it went.
+David Marcano Salcedo Not comparing how Federer played in 2006 and in this match. But at least he didn't choke here, which is why this seems the highest level of tennis Roger has played on clay. That mental choke against Nadal happened in most occasions on clay which cost him lots of titles.
It's tough to say when Nadal was playing his best tennis on clay for obvious reasons. Wether it was 2006 or 2011 he was consistantly beating everyone, but I do believe that if Federer had played at this level in the final he would've beaten Nadal.
kjartanize Maybe if Fed did he might have beaten Nadal in 2011, but you can't underestimate Nadal's defence on RG Court 1. Plus Fed's mental horror to Nadal usually erodes his levels no matter how good he was playing that tournament. Nadal's spin to Fed's backhand is just a counteract and I would say it was that which prevented Fed's highest level rather than Fed dropped his level a lot in the final.
+James Leung Hon Yin I think Federer of 2006/2007 would have a better chance against Nadal of 2011-2014 because Nadals speed and defense back in those days was just insane. Nadal in 2011-2014 was a little slower but made up for it with a better serve and forehand which is why he had more success on other surfaces during that period but was also losing more matches on clay.
Back when federers forehand was still hit flat and with pace. And when he used the tactic to draw djokovic to the net and pass him instead of these suicidal net approaches of a spin ball half court to djokos backhand. Uuuugh, tennis isnt getting better nowadays.
+lammie001 Back when Djokovic had no serve or 2nd serve. As well as Federer played here, he got battered in the final. If Djokovic was in the final, at least it would have been competitive. Perhaps he should have done himself and his fans a favor by allowing a more equipped opponent to face Nadal.
"You're just a hater". Wow how original. The reality is Fed is Nadal's bitch and has always been. At least with Novak has a weapon to counter and often destroy Nadal with, Fed has nothing to hurt Nadal. That is why Novak has a positive H2H vs Nadal and Fed has a significantly inferior H2H. Age has nothing to do with it by the way because early on the age gap was in Fed's favour and now it's in their favour.
+prasanna s Nadal on clay and Nadal on RG clay can make a huge difference especially in the centre court. Djokovic's knees were not a 100% and a 5 setter with Fed would have tolled him.
+prasanna s ....na way....Djokonovice lost to Nadal in 2 French Open Finals after this so it is a big Naahhhhhh!! from me. Next year definitely it will happen for him...no one will stop him unless he twists his nose or ankle.
+Football expert for the Gowdall Gazette But as we saw this year, Djokovic can beat Nadal at RG when he has the mental edge in their rivalry, and he sure as hell had Nadal mentally in 2011. Beat him in 2 clay finals leading to the event. Im 90% sure Federer saved Nadal here.
With this win Federer reached his 5th French open final. In the meantime, he reached the finals of AO and US open 5 and 6 times respectively. To me this shows that Federer wasn't that bad on clay but actually a top notch player even on clay. Rather it was the impossible Nadal on clay that made it seem that Federer wasn't that good on clay.
+Thanos Sofroniou If the only player you can't beat on clay is Nadal, doesn't that make you the second greatest clay court player of all time?? Something to think about indeed.
+kjartanize Of his generation, maybe, but certainly not all time. Even though, Djokovic has showed he's better on clay (I know he hasn't won RG but to his credit he's actually beat Nadal at RG) and will get RG one day.
+XxMaplerzxX Djokovic beat Nadal when Nadal was a shadow of his former self. Until 2014 Djokovic was getting handled at the FO by Nadal as much as Federer was. The only difference is that in 2015 Federer can't take advantage of Nadal's demise because he is old himself. Djokovic on the other hand is in his prime.
+89Pleasek until 2014? really now??? did you forget 2013? Djokovic up a break in the fifth, hits a volley winner but touches the net before the ball bounces twice so he loses the point. Had he not touched the net he would have been a double break in front and would quite likely have won.
XxMaplerzxX That wasn't for a double break. Besides, just because Djokovic came close once doesn't prove anything, he went 0-6 vs Nadal at the FO until this year when Nadal has been shit.
Because I can also name two matches that Novak won. After I name them you say "well that wasn't Fed at his best". Then I say "well this isn't Novak at his best either" and we get nowhere.
Come on No1ak... we are in 2016!!! You will win RG title this year. We are writing the history together and you will be better than Federer. I believe in you, man. So let's do it.
Balls bounce high on clay anyway, and no, lighter Babolat balls bounce *faster* than your average one. Where do you get your science from? Federer uses more topspin than Novak anyway, so it helps him more. You're also ignoring the advantage Federer prefers from the lighter ball experiencing less air-drag on the ball, which is the main cause for speed differences, and not the coefficient of restitution or friction of the court. Federer's an aggressor, and prefers the ball moving faster than a defender (like Novak and Rafa) would prefer. Of course, Novak also gains the advantage of a faster shot, but the ball-change benefits Federer more, whose main weapons are top-spin, and higher-average-shot-speed from the serve and forehand.
Caleb Pereira Trying way too hard buddy. Djokovic said the balls bounced higher too: www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-22/new-french-open-balls-by-babolat-bring-complaints-from-novak-djokovic.html. And I didn't ignore the advantage of the quicker ball, I pointed out you ignoring the high bounce disadvantage.
Maybe you should have tried harder... ;) Yeah, maybe the harder balls, and sun-baked courts that year helped the bounce, which would favour Nadal (who is not even on topic)... But... Guess who puts more top-spin on the ball between Federer and Djokovic, and hence gains the most from the ensuing bounce? The answer is the big-nosed guy. I'm sure you're smart enough to realize who. *And that's just one factor*. The bigger factor is the drag through the air, and since Federer is the pace-generator i.e. he puts more speed on his shots on average than Novak (Serve, Forehand), he gains the most from a reduced-drag factor on a less-heavy, faster ball. The less-heavy, harder Babolat ball augments these two factors, and it favours Federer more, by his own admission. sports.ndtv.com/french-open/features/173872-new-ball-at-roland-garros-causes-a-stir Federer: _"The ball probably _*_helps me_*_ as it is quite fast.."_ Federer, being hypobolic with his "probably". It helps him, period. He's the better server among the two, and the better striker, so it's a no-brainer really. Look what Isner (a big server) did to Nadal that year, something Federer has never been able to: Took 2 sets off the King. With Nadal-Federer, the issue is much more even, as the spin+bounce would help Nadal, and yet, the speed would help Federer. That's why I'm commenting here, and not on the 2011 RG Final video. ;)
+Caleb Pereira Bro, I honestly think you're going way too far with this xd The faster ball does benefit the "big-nosed guy" (I don't think anyone needs to be smart to realize this nonsense) and c3vzn did not say the opposite. He just pointed out another factor that comes into play with this ball. They bounce higher. And you know why Federer loses to Nadal all the time. He did end up losing to Nadal in the final, and this ball could've either helped him or his opponents on his way to the final, cause they could use the higher bounce to their advantage. In the end, Federer outplayed every single opponent to get to the final, including Djokovic. Why do "fans" nowadays simply choose one or two players to support and bash everyone else at every chance with every possible argument? I swear this type of fans didn't exist 7-8 years ago and the tennis community nowadays is shit, nothing compared to what is was a few years back.
What if... just what if Fed is still playing until he is 40 and still nudging his way into the last week of the Slams. Just who or what would we compare him to in that case?
djokovic played so badly it was ridculous,the pressure obviously got to him.but he will win a french open sooner than later, he is way to good not too. still to this day cant believe how lucky federer got in 2009.
You're so butthurt. I respect Djokovic and belive he can win the French Open in 2016 but Federer was not lucky in 2009 and Djokovic played really well in this match. Federer played mentally well in 2009's RG. So stop and respect both players with the tennis they have showed us and will continue to show us for as long as possible.
Because he was a shadow of the player he dominated up to that point of the season, don't get it twisted I'm a Murray fan but it was clear as day novak wasn't playing like he had or like he did after.
Ciaran Selva Is it so hard to accept federer earned this win? djokovic won the other 4 times they played this year and you still need to say fed was out there playing a shadow. geez
+Top10RG I assume you have a good quality version of this video and distorted it to avoid copyright drama. Would you be good enough to direct me to a download if you have it somewhere?
+hililala321 Federer is not playing like this day and night. One time he brought a better level in RG and it was tge 2009 final against Soderling.Almost any other Federer would have lost this match.
Crisu Cris I didnt say he could always play like this. Even before that match no one ever thought Fed could win. My point is when he could play like this, which is not even to his peak level at 2006, Djokovic does not stand a chance. and also Fed only lost to prime Rafa at RG prior to 2009 so he did not suddenly play inspired tennis to win RG
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this match finally surface in youtube...
perfection from RF. Serve, volley, rallies, passing shots, defensive shots. All court attacking tennis.
Historic win for Federer, Djokovic was in the form for a Grand Slam that year and it took Federer to stop his winning run of 43 matches.
Great performance.
One of the top 3 if not the best match ever to be played. Sensational rallies, sensational level of play. I love this so much, especially how Roger celebrates his victory =)
incredible match between these two. I remember watching it on television. You could really tell that these two players were on a mission. One of the most enjoyable matches I've seen in the last 10 years. Body language says it all.
Federer's movement is beautiful in this game such a treat to watch.
This is one of the cleanest matches I have ever seen. Federer was on absolute fire that day to beat Djokovic in that form.
What an incredible match! Probably my fav Fed match ever, considering the how huge this match was in terms of Fed breaking Djokers ~44 match winning streak but some ridiculous tennis! The variety and finesse of Federer's game is just stunning
One of the best matches with some of the most on-point commentators!
Federers celebration at the end pure arrogance.
Fed is so pumped at the end haha, those are the moments you watch tennis for
+Al Keith You know he's proud of himself when the finger wags
Yup! You know you're a true champ when you do that after 4 hour epics and not between points
+butterflycaught900 but then loses to Rafa after
Ethan Harris Such a waste. He was playing the best clay court tennis of his career in those two weeks. Good enough to beat rafa, even, but finding a way to lose that first set reset their dynamic to normal. i.e. rafa bullying and fed scrambling. He was very close to ultimate glory at this tournament. Can you imagine, ending peak djokovic winning streak then beating rafa at the french? Fed would have been deified for that.
+butterflycaught900 it's a mental thing. He couldn't dominate him like he could everyone else in his early career and from that day forward couldn't find a solution.
wish this video could be even closer to its thumbnail clearity
Back when federer was a good baseliner and actually showed mental strength in big matches.
+Harry Potter Hard to be the same mentally when you clearly have deteriorated in speed and from the baseline in general and have to rely on an extremely aggressive game
+Harry Potter Even by prime fed standards, this was the best clay court tennis he ever played.
butterflycaught900 It's right up there but I would put his match in Rome 2006 against Nadal above this one in terms of level of play..He did lose it in the end but it was really tight and he blew up important points in the end..This was against the beast version of the greatest clay court player of all time
He just got older and despite that he is still a world class player.
+Harry Potter And the timing to hold that long rallies...hitting the forehand incredibly well and the Backhand deep and power.
Cool vraiment pas mal!!!😀😀😀
To me Federer, Djokovic and Nadal are the three greatest tennisplayers of all time: a holy trinity.
bullshit (tu dis n'importe quoi pauvre naze)
+vlouz64 Lame answer!
Nole Nadal And Federer are three best players Ever
One the most beautiful match in tennis history.. peRFect.
PS Look the Roger forehand..sigh
today lose much power (Federer can't beat the time that passes).
Great highlights, well done! Just one tip for next time, it would be nice to see the score if that's possible. Anyway nice vid!
If only Roger had won the final after this. I feel like that might have enabled him to win a few more slams than just the one at Wimbledon in 2012, and it would have without any question cemented his position as the greatest of all time.
This is the highest level of tennis Roger has ever played on clay. PeRFection!
kjartanize Not really. Federer played better than this in the 2006 Rome Master Series final against Nadal; unluckily for him, he was up against the greatest player on clay courts of all time in his prime; and that's how it went.
+David Marcano Salcedo Not comparing how Federer played in 2006 and in this match. But at least he didn't choke here, which is why this seems the highest level of tennis Roger has played on clay. That mental choke against Nadal happened in most occasions on clay which cost him lots of titles.
It's tough to say when Nadal was playing his best tennis on clay for obvious reasons. Wether it was 2006 or 2011 he was consistantly beating everyone, but I do believe that if Federer had played at this level in the final he would've beaten Nadal.
kjartanize Maybe if Fed did he might have beaten Nadal in 2011, but you can't underestimate Nadal's defence on RG Court 1. Plus Fed's mental horror to Nadal usually erodes his levels no matter how good he was playing that tournament. Nadal's spin to Fed's backhand is just a counteract and I would say it was that which prevented Fed's highest level rather than Fed dropped his level a lot in the final.
+James Leung Hon Yin I think Federer of 2006/2007 would have a better chance against Nadal of 2011-2014 because Nadals speed and defense back in those days was just insane. Nadal in 2011-2014 was a little slower but made up for it with a better serve and forehand which is why he had more success on other surfaces during that period but was also losing more matches on clay.
What a finish
nowadays people say Federer should stop getting into long rallies. its really sad
Great match from Federer, this was an important win.
Seeing a lot of stupid/deluded comments below though.
+Arjun Krishna Great comment. Amazing match.
best match ever !
12:27 Wow 👏👏👏👏👏
Back when federers forehand was still hit flat and with pace. And when he used the tactic to draw djokovic to the net and pass him instead of these suicidal net approaches of a spin ball half court to djokos backhand. Uuuugh, tennis isnt getting better nowadays.
+lammie001 Back when Djokovic had no serve or 2nd serve. As well as Federer played here, he got battered in the final. If Djokovic was in the final, at least it would have been competitive. Perhaps he should have done himself and his fans a favor by allowing a more equipped opponent to face Nadal.
+Game Ovais You're just a hater, plain and simple.
"You're just a hater". Wow how original. The reality is Fed is Nadal's bitch and has always been. At least with Novak has a weapon to counter and often destroy Nadal with, Fed has nothing to hurt Nadal. That is why Novak has a positive H2H vs Nadal and Fed has a significantly inferior H2H. Age has nothing to do with it by the way because early on the age gap was in Fed's favour and now it's in their favour.
Federer favoured Nadal by defeating novak in 2011..nole is unstoppable at the time. he would have beaten nadal if he reached final for sure.
+prasanna s not for sure - but probably
+prasanna s Nadal on clay and Nadal on RG clay can make a huge difference especially in the centre court. Djokovic's knees were not a 100% and a 5 setter with Fed would have tolled him.
+prasanna s ....na way....Djokonovice lost to Nadal in 2 French Open Finals after this so it is a big Naahhhhhh!! from me. Next year definitely it will happen for him...no one will stop him unless he twists his nose or ankle.
+Football expert for the Gowdall Gazette But as we saw this year, Djokovic can beat Nadal at RG when he has the mental edge in their rivalry, and he sure as hell had Nadal mentally in 2011. Beat him in 2 clay finals leading to the event. Im 90% sure Federer saved Nadal here.
+prasanna s Ya no doubt about it.
With this win Federer reached his 5th French open final. In the meantime, he reached the finals of AO and US open 5 and 6 times respectively. To me this shows that Federer wasn't that bad on clay but actually a top notch player even on clay. Rather it was the impossible Nadal on clay that made it seem that Federer wasn't that good on clay.
+Thanos Sofroniou If the only player you can't beat on clay is Nadal, doesn't that make you the second greatest clay court player of all time?? Something to think about indeed.
+kjartanize Of his generation, maybe, but certainly not all time. Even though, Djokovic has showed he's better on clay (I know he hasn't won RG but to his credit he's actually beat Nadal at RG) and will get RG one day.
+XxMaplerzxX
Djokovic beat Nadal when Nadal was a shadow of his former self. Until 2014 Djokovic was getting handled at the FO by Nadal as much as Federer was. The only difference is that in 2015 Federer can't take advantage of Nadal's demise because he is old himself. Djokovic on the other hand is in his prime.
+89Pleasek until 2014? really now??? did you forget 2013? Djokovic up a break in the fifth, hits a volley winner but touches the net before the ball bounces twice so he loses the point. Had he not touched the net he would have been a double break in front and would quite likely have won.
XxMaplerzxX
That wasn't for a double break. Besides, just because Djokovic came close once doesn't prove anything, he went 0-6 vs Nadal at the FO until this year when Nadal has been shit.
The best version of Federer can easily beat the best version of Djokovic. #JustSaying
You are wrong. #JustSaying
This match proves it well enough... Same thing happens with Wimbledon 2012 Semifinal match.
harlito90 bruh... you can't just name two matches that Fed won and use it as an argument...
+John Smith why not?
Because I can also name two matches that Novak won. After I name them you say "well that wasn't Fed at his best". Then I say "well this isn't Novak at his best either" and we get nowhere.
Come on No1ak... we are in 2016!!! You will win RG title this year. We are writing the history together and you will be better than Federer. I believe in you, man. So let's do it.
We are 2 now.
He's not going to read this you loser
I personally don't think he would've beaten Nadal had he won against fed. Now if it's the 2015 Nadal I would like his chances.
+Ortis Smith hopefully,a happy new year for Nadal,vamos from India.
Thankyou,dude.
I know y'all Fedfans will hate me for saying this, but they made the balls faster in 2011 RG.
Which makes this less of a shock, eh? ;)
+Caleb Pereira Conveniently leaving out that the balls bounced higher too. Federer struggles with high bounce, especially on the backhand side.
Balls bounce high on clay anyway, and no, lighter Babolat balls bounce *faster* than your average one. Where do you get your science from? Federer uses more topspin than Novak anyway, so it helps him more.
You're also ignoring the advantage Federer prefers from the lighter ball experiencing less air-drag on the ball, which is the main cause for speed differences, and not the coefficient of restitution or friction of the court.
Federer's an aggressor, and prefers the ball moving faster than a defender (like Novak and Rafa) would prefer.
Of course, Novak also gains the advantage of a faster shot, but the ball-change benefits Federer more, whose main weapons are top-spin, and higher-average-shot-speed from the serve and forehand.
Caleb Pereira Trying way too hard buddy. Djokovic said the balls bounced higher too: www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-22/new-french-open-balls-by-babolat-bring-complaints-from-novak-djokovic.html.
And I didn't ignore the advantage of the quicker ball, I pointed out you ignoring the high bounce disadvantage.
Maybe you should have tried harder... ;)
Yeah, maybe the harder balls, and sun-baked courts that year helped the bounce, which would favour Nadal (who is not even on topic)...
But...
Guess who puts more top-spin on the ball between Federer and Djokovic, and hence gains the most from the ensuing bounce?
The answer is the big-nosed guy.
I'm sure you're smart enough to realize who.
*And that's just one factor*.
The bigger factor is the drag through the air, and since Federer is the pace-generator i.e. he puts more speed on his shots on average than Novak (Serve, Forehand), he gains the most from a reduced-drag factor on a less-heavy, faster ball.
The less-heavy, harder Babolat ball augments these two factors, and it favours Federer more, by his own admission.
sports.ndtv.com/french-open/features/173872-new-ball-at-roland-garros-causes-a-stir
Federer: _"The ball probably _*_helps me_*_ as it is quite fast.."_
Federer, being hypobolic with his "probably".
It helps him, period. He's the better server among the two, and the better striker, so it's a no-brainer really.
Look what Isner (a big server) did to Nadal that year, something Federer has never been able to:
Took 2 sets off the King.
With Nadal-Federer, the issue is much more even, as the spin+bounce would help Nadal, and yet, the speed would help Federer.
That's why I'm commenting here, and not on the 2011 RG Final video. ;)
+Caleb Pereira Bro, I honestly think you're going way too far with this xd The faster ball does benefit the "big-nosed guy" (I don't think anyone needs to be smart to realize this nonsense) and c3vzn did not say the opposite. He just pointed out another factor that comes into play with this ball. They bounce higher. And you know why Federer loses to Nadal all the time. He did end up losing to Nadal in the final, and this ball could've either helped him or his opponents on his way to the final, cause they could use the higher bounce to their advantage. In the end, Federer outplayed every single opponent to get to the final, including Djokovic.
Why do "fans" nowadays simply choose one or two players to support and bash everyone else at every chance with every possible argument? I swear this type of fans didn't exist 7-8 years ago and the tennis community nowadays is shit, nothing compared to what is was a few years back.
What if... just what if Fed is still playing until he is 40 and still nudging his way into the last week of the Slams. Just who or what would we compare him to in that case?
Guys go to vimeo.com/43966196 for higher quality highlights
+Gersboy147 Shot bro! Was way way better!
You are my hero!!!!
djokovic played so badly it was ridculous,the pressure obviously got to him.but he will win a french open sooner than later, he is way to good not too. still to this day cant believe how lucky federer got in 2009.
"so badly it was riddiculous"
really? like really?
You're so butthurt. I respect Djokovic and belive he can win the French Open in 2016 but Federer was not lucky in 2009 and Djokovic played really well in this match. Federer played mentally well in 2009's RG. So stop and respect both players with the tennis they have showed us and will continue to show us for as long as possible.
+Ciaran Selva And how do we know he played badly? Because he lost. Solid logic.
Because he was a shadow of the player he dominated up to that point of the season, don't get it twisted I'm a Murray fan but it was clear as day novak wasn't playing like he had or like he did after.
Ciaran Selva Is it so hard to accept federer earned this win? djokovic won the other 4 times they played this year and you still need to say fed was out there playing a shadow. geez
Djokovic should use backhand down the line more.
+Top10RG I assume you have a good quality version of this video and distorted it to avoid copyright drama. Would you be good enough to direct me to a download if you have it somewhere?
vimeo.com/43966196
Djokovic would've easily won the french open last year if he had played like this
17:49, Is that still counted as an ace even though Djokovic managed to get some racquet on it?
***** Thanks, just wasn't sure.
What happened at 1:05?
2weakkickflip The ball skid off the line.
i think that djokovic is gonna win roland garros this time
Does he mean never been beaten from two sets up at Roland Garros, maybe? Because I know in other venues he has....3 or 4 times at least.
Three times
+Chris Heck
it´s 2011
Federer lost at Wimby 2011 QFs to Tsonga from 2 sets up and US Open 2011 SFs to Djoker 2 sets up. Obviously, both occurred after this match.
Federer better than Djokovic
not even peak Federer, but he trashed peak Djokovic
More like Djokovic missing countless chances.Hardly a trashing.
Crisu Cris back in the days when Fed still had his ground game, playing clutch, Djokovic stood no chance.
+hililala321 Federer is not playing like this day and night. One time he brought a better level in RG and it was tge 2009 final against Soderling.Almost any other Federer would have lost this match.
Crisu Cris I didnt say he could always play like this. Even before that match no one ever thought Fed could win. My point is when he could play like this, which is not even to his peak level at 2006, Djokovic does not stand a chance.
and also Fed only lost to prime Rafa at RG prior to 2009 so he did not suddenly play inspired tennis to win RG
+hililala321 You said that peak Federer 2005-2007 would do better than that. I said to you that he didn't(well he did it in masters,but not in RG)