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The true conclusion to Shanks vs Mihawk: ruclips.net/video/d5VJaCyc-yc/видео.html
1:15 - 1. Eustass Kidd
2. Admiral Ryokugyu
3. Killer
Fed hair shanks vs fraudhawk*
Keep in mind that Mihawk's bounty was also frozen during his tenure as a warlord.
Mihawk not using named attacks means nothing when he launched an attack at Whitebeard, who is a Yonko, and that wasn't a named attack.
Unless you think Mihawk is ao strong that he doesn't need a named attack to hurt a Yonko, him having named attacks doesn't make sense.
Also, that attack didn't even damage Jozu, who is a Yonko Commander, and Kidd is shown to be high Yonko Commander level. So if Shanks can 1 shot Yc+ Kidd and Yc2 Killer but Mihawk can't even damage a YC with an attack meant to hit a Yonko, then there is a decent gap in their power.
@@kdawgtb lol, Mihawk himself states he was merely testing the waters to gauge the gap between them. The attack was so incredibly telegraphed even cannon fodder were able to dodge.
"hE DIdNt hUrt DIaMonD JozU.." no duh. The guy can turn to Diamonds literally one of the hardest materials known to man and Mihawk's attack was little more than a casual slash for him. so even if Mihawk can cut Diamds,not saying he can calm down buttercup, that attack wasn't meant to.l
"Pre-timeskip Zoro and Post-timeskip Kid... So it's about the same level of impressive" had me rolling on my floor laughing
Its funny but man it hurts me inside
Kid got so many jabs in this video I loved every second
Dude post time skip kid mid diffs
@@cortezhanna1057post time skip Kidd low-no diffs realistically
Kid vs pre time skip zoro is a one shot lol
Concerning Mihawk's Toilet, I MIGHT actually have a explanation for that! I was reading through the manga Dungeon Toilet and they mentioned that a old Japanese general had a special toilet made specifically so that he could swing a sword around if any enemies attacked him while he was using it. So, since Mihawk's sword is so HUGE...the room he needs to swing a sword around would ALSO have to be huge. So, that's why we have this huge room with a toilet in the middle of it, its so Mihawk can use his sword while he's using it...maybe.
It’s in Dungeon Toilet volume 1 page 72 in the text-based “Toilet Time: Fourth” segment. “…Takeda Shingen…when he made his war plans, he’d lock himself away in the bathroom. (…) It’s said the bathroom was very large, around the size of a average bedroom. (…) The idea was that if someone infiltrated Shingen’s toilet, he’d still be able to swing a katana.” It’s actually a surprisingly educational, if hyperfocused, manga, really.
Or he just wants some space
seems legit and a good reason. I will go with that.
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I can't help, but imagine Mihawk swinging Yoru around while having shit 😂
@@jpronan8757 lol
_And they say Manga has no real life value_
Shanks vs Mihawk would be pure unadulterated awesomeness.
I think i will occur off screen 😢
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That would be a W fight and I SWEAR IF ITS OFFSCREEN-
@@jpraise6771no i won't
They will fight in the 3 way davy beck fight at the end of the story between the Strawheads, Red Hair Pirates and Cross Guild.
But it will be Afro Shanks vs Dreadlock Mihawk and it will end in a draw.
I would genuinely want a flashback of what mihawk and shanks friendly spars is, it would be quite amazing them just casually slicing off a part of an island or something.
An interesting thing about Mihawk is that his journey is the opposite of basically every "main" character. Everyone does what they do cause they're chasing their dreams. The thing is, Mihawk doesn't because as every single swordsman, their dream is to be the greatest in the world, but Mihawk starts the series with that title already. So what do you go about doing with your life if you already have what everyone like you wants?
Guy has been bored for quite a while now. I mean in his introduction he was shown following Don Kreeg into the east blue basically just for funzies.
@@fatestaytilted8849 which is very reminiscent to Beerus getting bored but we all know he is OP af
Probably just chill on an island with monkeys probably
Mihawk is essentially Saitama. He's powerful, there's no one to challenge him, he's sort of trying to mentor some people to become strong but is doubtful they can reach his level, and with the boredom of nothing challenging to fight just wants to hang out and not be bothered.
Also, Mihawks non serious attacks can still one shot most characters.
The saitama effect
I can't wait to see how Shanks react to the new of Buggy being a new Emperor. He might throw a party with his fellow Red Hair Pirates and Giants to celebrate his best buddy's ascension to the big leagues.
Or he just want to party anyway.
“Buggy, help me take down the world government”
Buggy: (°〇°)
actually, shanks’ line to ben beckman “we should take the one piece” may be because shanks’ promise to buggy.. that he will reach laugh tale one day, and he was just waiting for buggy to be his equal to start going for the one piece
@@imfrod Yeah because Buggy was his signal to actually do something, not the awakening of Joy Boy/arrival of Nika 🤦♂
i think Shanks would say something like: "thats my boy"
@@tobiaswedin well there’s no proof for either theories.. they are still theories, i don’t believe in either.. we would defo find out soon
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@@xNezrx that is a way to feel, I suppose. I don't feel baited by any video, because they deliver.
@@Aether_GM i mean when you see the title its finally happening and mihawk and shanks getting ready to fight in the thumbnail youd think something like that is happening in the manga
He’s just gotta fix those damn thumbnails
I keep forgetting that shanks became an emperor after losing an arm.
When i went to a graphic arts school, a teacher said one of the schools first teachers lost the use of his dominant side after a stroke (comic book careers lead to a lot of alcholism). He continued his career by learning to use the left hand. Given how powerful shanks is now and how much time he's had to adapt to his circumstances, i dont think shanks is weaker than he was two handed.
You all forget being declared an emperor is not based on the emperor alone. He or she needs a very powerful crew, decent enough fleet and large territory
Yet Mihawk by himself is worth just as much some people with all the above and that tells a lot
highly unlikely but I feel like I would really like if somehow in whatever way Luffy ends up saving Garp and he ends up a couple of chapters hanging out with marines ...
Would be poetic and honestly id love that
Luffy joins the Marines. Not though enlistment but an alliance. In the worst possible way for Garp they end up becoming an arm of the Grand Fleet.
@@radaro.9682to both of you guys I agree
@@radaro.9682why would he join them ,he has enough power individually +kingdoms+revolutionary +grandfleet so he don't need fodder navy
@cakes1166 It rhymes
I'm Waiting for night to fall because in the day morias power is broken so oda didn't show it. I'm hoping in the night moria steals shadows of 100s of blackbeard pirates and puts it inside garp.
Shanks didn't just lost his arm, he also lost his sword-wielding arm.
He still lost it, so skill issue
He probably did it to avoid Mihawk challenges.
@@kakashihatake1029he did it cuz Makino didn't like his tattoo
@@getgoodwifi4623 He lost it and still became a yonko, Shanks slams Fraudhawk
@@gokusamm he's disabled so he wins is basically your argument right now
Wouldn't Mihawk being known as a "Marine hunter" mean he gets a Eustass Kid style bounty boost? Seems like it would for me.
A marine hunter who joined the biggest marine hunting organization
I mean, every pirate is somewhat a marine hunter, Mihawk simply was the best one
@@cybergreen6226 pirates avoid the marines bruh they dont hunt them theyre criminals they only fight to not get caught, mihawk is different
@@cybergreen6226 its probably cause pirates are chasing treasure and money while mihawk just wanna square up against the marine
@@cybergreen6226 No they're not. Robin herself said that pirates don't normally pick fights with the government or the marines, they just do their thing and run from the marines or defend themselves from them. Mihawk was actively hunting marines as his main activity. Trying to pretend that's not relevant is ridiculous.
It honestly makes so much sense, seeing how Mihawk is called Clear Voient which could possibly mean his future sight is probably best in the world or atleast very high up on the list, it's makes sense that to become an equal to someone with a power like that Shanks had to become the killer of observation Haki
Mihawk has to be stronger than Shanks for narrative purposes. If Zoro’s final fight to become the worlds strongest swordsman against Mihawk while Shanks is debatably stronger that victory will feel so hollow and Zoro’s dream will be debatably complete
I think swordsman might have supposed to be a separate category of warriors, for people like Zoro, Mihawk, Tashigi, captain T-bone and Vista, who are dedicated to the path of the sword instead of just being strong guys with force multipliers, but it just never really manifested, leaving us in this sword-limbo.
I'd like to add to this as well. Canonically, Zoro has utilised "Mutoryu - Tatsu Maki" or "No Sword Style - Dragon Twister", this means that it is definitely possible to be a "Swordsman" in the OP world without literally weilding swords.
Maybe swordsmen are like Bounty hunters; we're meant to assume that a fair number of them exist in the world, but after the timeskip the Straw Hats are all powerful enough that the vast majority of people in either group just don't matter anymore.
Zoro is definitely a strong guy with force multipliers bro, he's literally just power through 80% of the time for his fight, he's fighting more like oden and roger these days
Not necesarily taking sides here, but why is it that when discussing Mihawk's bounty, people pretend its "only" based on his power when the dude was literally known as the MARINE HUNTER.
Kizaru himself said that the crimes of pirates are never forgotten, and before deciding to chill in his island, Mihawk was mainly known for directly hunting marines. That's obviously a big factor.
This is interesting… I always assumed “swordsman” was based on if they were trained or not vs. just swinging it around. Like, most wouldn’t called every drunk outside a bar throwing a punch a “martial artist”, but it’s true that it’s never been clearly defined in One Piece, so now I’m not sure 🤔
it was never defined because it's pretty obvious imo, you can't give Kaido a sword and he is suddenly the wss, swordsmanship is more of a life path, so in a fight between swordsman it's one skill with a sword that determines the better swordsman.
It's who is the most dangerous with a blade in their hand. If shanks and mohawk got into a close range sword fight and they just had to rely on haki and skill mihawk would win. But I think shanks could scrap out a win in a real fight because he'd probably have something up his sleeve
I think swordsmanship is where you pull out a sword whenever you fight seriously, which shanks has always done, if you’re skilled with a sword and use it a lot, you’re a swordsman
@@timjohnson8362yeah, a stump 🥁
It's just skill vs power thing. Mihawk is pretty much the world's most *skilled* swordsman, while Shanks has more power (charisma, status, sovereignty, allies etc) even while he's not as skilled as an individual as Mihawk. Mihawk is absolutely a threat on his own, but still a single person who's not able to one-shot Shanks, meaning he would face all the might Shanks has if he decided to challenge him, thus thinking it's not worth it.
It’s funny that Kidd at the current peak of his power is no better yardstick than pre timeskip Zoro
That was Liam mocking Kid as usual 😅 of course one shotting Kid and Killer after Wano is a much greater feat than defeating East Blue Zoro. But granted Shanks was serious while Mihawk was playing.
@@luis15317 a better feat yes, but it doesn’t mean anything in terms of overall power. As neither really tells us how strong Shanks or Mihawk are overall or against each other. We would have the same information if both had cut down Kidd in one attack which I don’t doubt Mihawk could do.
@@conormurphy4328yeah but the issue just stems from the fact that mihawk doesn’t have any real feats so even if Kidd actually did put up a good fight that still would tell us nothing about mihawks strength.
If shanks were to cut down kaido like he did kidd that still tells us nothing about mihawk
When did Mihawk show up first? When Usopp wasn’t there. When did Shanks show up at Marineford? When Usopp wasn’t there. I’ve never seen an instance where either Shanks or Mihawk was in the same place as Usopp. Because they’re scared. Thank you for coming to this comment. Have a nice day.
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I've always had a weird idea/theory about Mihawk's eyes, which was also part of a larger Haki theory
Basically my Haki theory is that there's a third level of Haki, which is the final stage after Advanced Haki. I'm currently calling "Mastered Haki" / "Perfected Haki". The idea/theory is that Mihawk (And also Imu) have ringed eyes as a result of having Mastered/Perfected Observation Haki.
My current idea of what that does is either:
A. It adds a boost to the foresight ability by accelerating your senses so that everything around you appears to move slower as you look into the future, allowing you to basically see the vision as a projection in front of you rather than just an image in your mind (similar to that weird thing King Crimson does in Jojo, but without erasing time)
B. It allows you to quickly scan the surrounding area and people, which can identify people/objects around you find/identify weak points and maybe even read minds
Thats all the important stuff related to Mihawk in the theory. It also suggests that that theorized fourth elemental Haki is Mastered/Perfected Armament Haki, basically giving the Ryuo emitting from your body a proper shape in the form of natural elements, which would be predetermined based on the will of the person. Example: It takes the form of fire for people with an intense will like Kinemon or Luffy)
Honestly - I really do think there is some weight to that theory.
Rememeber when Perona was leaving Mihawk and he said it was good she was leaving because he was able to see what was going down at the Reverie in regards to the abolishment of the Warlords? That's some serious observation Haki if that's what that was.
I don't keep up with all the theories and I do forget somethings so apologies if it was explained why he was able to do that, but I thought what you said mae a lot of sense to that
@@jeremyordas7080 Its not the craziest idea/theory I had for One Piece. That title goes to my idea of how Robin would utilize Conquerors Haki after watching Tekking's video on what if all the Strawhats had Haki. That idea was her creating hands on people with a single large eye on the palm, allowing her to add the effects of shock/surprise and maybe even fear in people before blasting Conquerors Haki directly into the person's face at pointblank, not just knocking them out, but basically giving the person a seizure
only one problem, mihawk's eyes have looked like this since childhood
@@Greg12839 i think the youngest we've seen him was 19 yrs old at rogers execution, plenty time to master observation haki
@@onz4632 oda drew how he looked as a child(he looked like 10 years old) in an sbs and his eyes were exactly the same
Shanks would probably be the strongest swordsman had he never lost his arm. We would never know who is strongest because Mihawk won't fight a one armed man.
Shanks lost his dominant arm that's why I guess
no he wouldnt be, they would still be fighting equally if that was the case
Said a shankstard calmly:
Well... if I'm talking about a magical demon sword at a convention center saying Yamato won't make people too angry 😅
Bounty scaling is the worst way to determine strength. It has been confirmed via Luffy's bounty going to only 3 Billion even though he is now the single biggest threat to the WG in their eyes with the awakening of Nika. We now know that the WG chooses bounties based on how much of a threat they are...but with major exceptions. Some bounties get downplayed just because they don't want others to know how powerful/dangerous to WG they really are.
sadly there are STILL plent of people in 2023 who use bounties to determine power levels and ironically enough i remember a terribly annoying guy having a Shaggy pfp just like u but the difference is that u view bounty as the worst way to determine power while he did the opposite
life is strange
In terms of Mihawks case you kinda have to use it to determine strength. The guy doesn’t do anything and is chill. He wasn’t trying to oppose anyone or do anything remotely notable in the world. As soon as the warlord system was abolished he went up to a crazy 3.5B having done nothing? That speaks levels to nothing but his strength.
@@Manwithetheplan no I understand it CAN be somewhat accurate, but it has a tendency to be politically driven. Whatever the WG wants to make someone’s bounty, they will. But I agree in a lot of cases bounties can be pretty accurate if you have nothing else to go off of.
@@Manwithetheplan but also, you have to think the WG is obviously going to give someone that is currently holding the title of WSS a very high bounty. It says more about his title, but we can’t confirm how well it actually translates to his strength.
@@Manwithetheplan also, we don’t know what he’s done, it’s incorrect to say he’s done nothing, we just have no knowledge of it. He has obviously done something to get him the bounty boost.
Funniest part about the groin discussion is my son's favorite panel in the whole series is Luffy kicking Buggy in the groin. So my young son agrees with you on that being the preferred, cultured style of manga. 😆
i fell like shanks is a "swordsman" closer to brook where he respects the craft and other swordsman but is not a purist like zoro mihawk or tashigi, he probably fights more around his haki similar to how brook combines his sword and devil fruit
so mihawk who operates at a world class level has a swordsmanship that doesnt revolve around haki even though he is the one who taught zoro about haki..... shanks is not a purist like zoro? OK divine departure is an armament + ACOC haki mix into his sword attack RIGHT? how did zoro fight against king? a mix of armament haki + ACOC into his swords... same way he gave a scar to kaido.... the student that mihawk taught about haki fights exactly like shanks who is a CONFIRMED swordsman (sbs101, red databook, zoro novel, ch1058 etc)
law is classified and confirmed to be a swordsman (usopp gallery, sbs 101) and fujitora too so if these 2 who have such a wide variety apart from sword based attacks and ablities are classified as swordsmen then WHAT CAN SHANKS POSSIBLY DO? rayleigh who used kicks is also a confirmed swordsman (sbs101)
the set of abilities does not matter as long as you re classified AND CONFIRMED BY THE AUTHOR TO BE A SWORDSMAN then theres no pure and this and that....
oda never categorized the types of swordsmen he only announces if they are or not and about shanks he confirmed him to be a swordsman multiple times already, he is categorized as SWORDSMAN and he never categorized swordsmen as pure, or semi, or pseduo and this and that etc.... this is HIS STORY dont play with it, this pure and pseudo blah blah is a FAN MADE HEADCANON started by 1 of the biggest shankstards Kingoflightning who i respect but the lad cant powerscale even if his life depended on it
OHH and lastly haki is an upgrade of its user's already existant fighting style not a style apart from it if u can comprehend what im saying u can see the truth here which is an obvious one UNLESS u think shanks has gryphon as a decoy and he defeated kidd with a secret fart technique
what shankstards mostly say is "i think" or "i feel like" or "maybe" or "probably" or "if" which is ALL a personal interpretation and quite forced towards your personal desires NEGLECTING AND DENYING the canonical information that has already been presented by the literal creator of one piece multiple and multiple and multiple times ALL for the sake of your fragile emotions just to delay the inevitable outcome
FUN FACT: i also was a firm believer that shanks not only is stronger than mihawk but also the top 1 and i admit i feel ashamed about it but now im cured and free proving that i can be 100% unbiased taughting myself this way bcz powerscaling doesnt care about our emotions, its the judge and the executioner period...
apocalypse is near so stay tuned
@@okashira073holy shit bro u destroyed him
@@okashira073chill bro he is innocent
@@okashira073 ITS NEVER THAT SERIOUS NIGGA 😭
@@okashira073 DAMNNNNN YOU GOT HIM GOOD
Imagine for the last Battle Royal for the One Piece. Shanks and Mihawk join alliance against Luffy and Zoro!!!
law and big mom are also sword-users. big mom is stated to be either a master or proficient in giant swordsman ship, and while law mostly uses his fruit, that doesn't change the fact law is featured and portrayed as one too. just saying ability-users can be swordsmen too. edit; i think mihawk and shanks are this generation's roger and whitebeard in a way. they sit at the top of their fields with only minor differences between them
It's interesting to know that 22% of grand fleet is significantly smarter and logical than the rest
it’s ironic that you spelt know wrong but yeah your right
I'd have hoped for a higher percentage of intelligent life 😔
@@thumbsup6042 I have no idea what you're talking about
one piece community scales with head canon
@@henrynewgate9019 giga chad
just from the top of my head. from both we've have never seen 100% strength. though i would say that we have experienced shanks to be much more serious and ready to fight someone a couple of times and mihawk i feel like has always been just chillin, even at marineford was more or less just observing things. so that might mess with their impressions on us letting us feel like mihawk is somehow a bit harmless. my gut feeling tells me that if mihawk ever gets angry or has something of upmost importance to fight for, he will probably demonstrate to be one of the few strongest ever, even srtonger than shanks 1v1. so my vote goes to mihawk
I see mihawk is quite the same problem as saitama (one punch man), both has achieved the title of the strongest and both are bored out of their minds. They have no greater ambition, no more mountain to climb. Whereas shanks is aiming for something greater:the pirate king.
One of my favourite one piece theories is that mihawk was shanks' zoro, but he chose the swordsmanship over his captains dream, theres also fun references of hawking, which is training birds of prey, and they sit on your non dominant forearm, and hawking became a thing in the viking era which shanks is heavily linked to thematically and shanks losing his arm forces his him to choose between which bird to wield, the griffon or the (mi)hawk? There is a full video on the theory by a channel called The Hidden Island, highly recommend
Um absolutely not theyre portrayed equal as kids too brah
Mihawk: “I just want to live a peaceful life in my castle”
Mihawks 4 foot 5 brother Imu: “hahaha hold my Snail”
I feel like we can’t say with certainty who could win until we see them in action more. Like the video said early on, Mihawk’s only W on screen is against Zoro and Shanks only W on panel is Kidd. Soon I’d like to see Mihawk fold a seraphim or something just to add more fuel to what I think is the most interesting debate in one piece.
Bro if Mihawk isnt the worlds strongest swordsman then the buildup we've had for 1100 chapters is all for nothing and we know for a fact that Shanks is a swordsman, due to every SINGLE ONE of his feats involving him using his sword in some way EXCEPT with that damn king of the coast and the whitebeard fodder passing out.
I wonder, since probably they both have super advance observation haki, if a fight between them is just staring and fighting in their heads😂
I know kinda how Akianu vs Kizaru stared at each other for some moments lol 😂
I like to think shanks was a better swordsmen until he lost his arm then he trained his observation haki to make up for it. He can still win but his sword skill isnt as good anymore
Way I look at it: When they were young, their strength was equal. They traded wins, my guess is Shanks probably won more than Mihawk but it was a close count. When Shanks lost his arm and showed up for a duel with Mihawk Mihawk won the duel decisively, cementing his status but to Mihawk it was utterly hollow. Since then Mihawk has mostly capped and hasn’t had anyone to train with as he doesn’t want to train with Shanks anymore as he only fights for the blade, while Shanks continues to train and fight to improve himself for the sake of the people he loves, and is thus more powerful now than Mihawk but doesn’t want the status of greatest swordsman so he won’t duel Mihawk anymore.
Mihawk's bounty isn't based on shear strength/threat alone because he is a member of Cross Guild, so there has to be some influence in his bounty for that and his bounty surely a updated bounty, judging every Warlord's bounty is updated so far.
Exactly and he was the Marine hunter,
Kidd bounty was higher than Luffy due to him killing civilians imagine killing Marines on the regular
His bounty is not just pure strength
And Shanks lineage is probably not included like Luffy pre Dragon and Ace reveal etc
Bro he has the highest bounty in cross guild. If buggy’s face is the cover of it and they consider him a yonko now do you think it’s because of croc? Or buggy’s influence? Mihawk is carrying cross guild on his back lmfao
@@Beamken right that's literally the only thing that makes sense lol. How is a crewmate more wanted than the leader? Something ain't adding up
@@Beamken Buggy is the heart, crocodile is the brain and Mihawk is the body - that thing is obvious here, marine also knows that. I didn't say anything of denying that. Him being a part of a Yonko crew (I doesn't matter whether you consider him real captain, vice captain whatever) has definitely some influence in his bounty, he isn't a lone wolf anymore - that is my point.
@kenandjohnson , that shows why Mihawk's bounty is not power related if it was Buggy would have 4 billion due to being stronger as their leader, they gave bigger bounty than Croc to Buggy but not bigger than Mihawk? Why? Mihawk was Marine Hunter in the past those 2 were not.
This is like Lunarian King still having bigger bounty than Zoro, not power related
I think it should have been mentioned that when they talked, Mihawk said something along the lines that it wasn't worth it fighting Shanks after he lost his arm. That implies pretty heavily that its not worth it to clash anymore because he would win. Just kinda surprised it wasn't mentioned?
I think it was meant as "not worth fighting with mihawk's honor as a swordsman on the line." Winning against a one-armed shanks is not honorable for him, and the opposite is also true. Losing to a one-armed shanks would hurt mihawk's honor more. It's a lose-lose situation...
Mihawk called him a "hasbeen"
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The Shanks vs Mihawk debate is very similar to the Tyson vs Holyfield 1 fight, the good thing about this is the Tyson Holyfield fight happened when they both were out of their prime so it wasn't that great but the Shanks vs Mihawk will be great.
Luffy will have to pick a Dilemma. Eventually help Vivi against Imu. Or save Garp from BlackBeard. However I believe Kuzan will cryogenically freeze Garp due to injuries. Enough time for HQ to send in Bogard or even better an ADMIRAL!!!
I think it's gonna be Sengoku Tsuru and Hina. They learned that Garp and his officers are going to Hachinosu
I do like the idea of Kuzan freezing Garp the same way he froze Jaguar D. Saul. Saul was his enemy, but he still let him live, with more than a few injuries. I wouldn't put it past him to do the same to his mentor.
I Genuinely challenge everyone here to actually do the Yamato thing at any convention you attend.
They used to fight all the time back when Shanks had both arms. Shanks was not yet an Emperor at the start of the show and him losing an arm stripped Mihawk's will to fight him. It's entirely possible that Mihawk and Shanks were equals at the start of the series but growth rates among characters in One Piece are often pretty sporadic. Mihawk seems somewhat detached now that his primary dueling partner is "no longer fit" while Shanks has only seemed to grow increasingly powerful. Could it be the case that they were equals at the start of the show, Shanks losing an arm temporarily put him behind Mihawk but Shanks later passed him in strength since Mihawk hasn't had the motivation to keep pushing himself because he's already the world's greatest swordsman?
@defiangdefiant
A good theory but entirely headcanon. While it's fair to assume Shanks is stronger than he was right after losing an arm, we cant prove he got stronger than he was during the duels while Mihawk didnt.
Its unquantifiable
@@phantomgrent5750 man said “increasingly stronger” lmfao I want to know which anime they’re watching
@@Beamken what are you referring to?
It's entirely headcanon to assume shanks got stronger and Mihawk didn't
@@phantomgrent5750 It's absolutely head canon but I think could be viable at the same time. What have we seen or heard of Mihawk doing in the story? Seems he largely spends his time on his secluded island up until his warlord title was stripped and he joined Cross Guild. The other things he's done we've seen. We probably haven't seen him go all out yet but we won't know until his duel with Zoro comes.
Meanwhile, Shanks was not a yonko at the start of One Piece. He was likely a notorious pirate by this point, especially considering his duels against Mihawk, but since he became a yonko four years after leaving East Blue it stands to reason that he only continued to get stronger. Since he reached a new height of infamy even after losing his arm his strength could potentially correlate to that.
It feels as though one's ambition is unlike the other. We've yet to see Mihawk really push himself. That's probably to show the gap between him and everyone else but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that once he acquired his title he didn't have the same level of ambition to gain strength like he once had. It's almost like he's been waiting for someone to come and take the title from him aka Zoro.
@@defiantlydefiant its valid reasoning but once again quite unquantifiable.
We don't know how much weaker Shanks got right as he lost his arm. We do know that current shanks is at least equal to before he lost his arm because its stated he hasn't lost power, but its headcanon to assume he's stronger than with his duels. I could just as easily argue that Shanks all the strength he accumulated during his time as a yonko was just closing the gap to the power he had with both hands.
(I personally believe Shanks and Mihawk are stronger than when they had their duals but of course I can't prove it)
As for Mihawk, we know he has no competition and he is less active than others since shanks lost his arm, but there is nothing that implies he doesn't train or get stronger. He's said to Zoro that he will stand at the top until Zoro can fight him again, I highly doubt Mihawk would sit around until someone beats him.
(Although it is equally as head canon to assume he did get stronger than he didn't)
This is why people don't bring this up during Mihawk vs. Shanks debates because it is filled with so much personal interpretation for knowledge that we just don't have
The picture you used for the poll is HIGHLY underrated
It's interesting to see the "not participating is cowardly/defeat by default" take.
Recently in the chess world, world champion Magnus Carlsen did not compete and by large the response was that winning the world championship was hollow with the world #1 deciding not to participate. There are detractors, but that's a pretty common take atm.
Mihawk had off camera Haki, he kept telling Zoro to use the black blades, we just never saw him doing it because it was before the time skip, when no Haki was drawn.
In chapter 1058, Oda specifically said that Mihawk has "better sword skills". If Mihawk was stronger, Oda would have just said so instead of using the phrase "sword skills". But he specifically said "greater sword skills". Why would Oda choose the less convenient route unless he chose to believe that strength and sword skills are different? I do agree that Mihawk is a better swordman. But that does not mean that he is stronger than Shanks.
Shanks and mihawk used to have sword duels.
Yet mihawk is called the world's strongest swordsman and shanks isn't. That explains it.
but again, just panel below guy says mihawk is most powerful\strongest swordman which counters that statement with ease
Worlds strongest swordsman.
BECAUSE mihawk is not only stronger than shanks but stronger than others who wield a sword ... That's why he is THE WORLD'S STRONGEST SWORDSMAN IN NAME AND ACTUALITY ... If mihawk and shanks fought and cancel each others haki then those two will fight only using sword ... The winner will be the most skilled between the two!
Mihawk and Shanks are hype tools, why would he straight up just reveal the answer to the biggest debate in the community?
I bet there’s a valid reasoning for Mihawk not wanting to fight Shanks handicapped is because Shanks probably used to always beat him and knowing Mihawk he wouldn’t fight him again unless he was at full strength
The wss title literally contradicts everything you just said lo
Most smartest Shankstard d sucker:
One other point in Mihawk’s favor: he’s the only major character that has never taken any damage
Because he postpone every time he needs to fight a strong opponent. If Doflamingo didn't fight Law + Luffy and postponed he wouldn't take damage as well
Kizaru:😐
Mihawks bounty is probably so high because he was known as the marine hunter. It’s like the difference between being a murderer and a cop killer, they will put more into hunting you down (in media, not speaking on real cops or killers)
Considering that Mihawk is a part of cross guild now. I think it’s highly likely that being on that crew affected his bounty. I’m also sure that him avoiding capture after the warlord system got abolished affected his bounty as well. So I’m not too sure if you can say his current bounty reflects power alone
bro cross guild has only buggy and croc Mihawk is the only one who made cross guild relevant.
@@ioanealavidze4716 mihawk makes them relevant in our perspective because we know that buggy is a fraud and should not be a yonko but to the characters in the op story buggy is a legit yonko. Only a few people in the story know that buggy is a fraud. As goofy as it is buggy’s and Mihawk’s bounties are about the same which means in the eyes of the world government they are similar threat levels.
@@epicarno6943 than how can you explain that Mihawk has even bigger bounty than buggy, his supposed captain?this just further shows how insanely op Mihawk is he is just HIM.
@@epicarno6943 then why is mihawk's bounty higher then buggy's?
I don’t understand what any of your points have to do with mine. I’m not saying that mihawk isn’t strong and I’m not saying that characters in the story think buggy is stronger. I’m saying that mihawk being on the crew would affect his bounty it’s not solely his strength.
Other than tekking, liam's humor is really the best amongst OP youtuber for me. Funny considering they're on opposite side of humor cracker spectrum, one has to script his videos while the other one goes with a video title on a sticky note and tangents
I feel like what people don’t seem to understand is that the title of “Worlds Strongest Swordsman” is something you have to go out and actively seek. From episode one Shanks has been set up as a character who ONLY fights when necessary, like protecting his friends. Why would Shanks go out of his way to actively fight someone he considers to be a friend like Mihawk for a title he clearly doesn’t even care about? He’s already a emperor.
This entire comment makes 0 sense. He already fought him before💀
@@KyubiCloaks yeah 10 years ago. They’ve both gotten stronger since then.
The debate is about who is stronger not about "does shanks care and seek the title of world's strongest swordsman or not"
Zoro drinks 🍷, Sanji smokes, Roger drinks, Ben Beckman smokes, akainu smokes but the people who smoke don't drink and the people who drink don't smoke
I prefer his OPPP version of this fight
Funny how some Shanks fanbase said Mihawk doesn't have Conquerer's haki. Mihawk literally has kingly ambition who already ACHIEVED HIS DREAM and that is becoming the strongest swordsman. He sits at top above all swordsman that is literally a conqueror's trait who conquered all swordsman
Mihawk likely got THAT big of a bounty as a figurehead in the cross guild
Mihawk isn’t a figure head of cross guild buggy is
His bounty clearly because of his title of world's strongest swordsman!
@@dawoudhussein9332 1: look up what figurehead means, 2: look at the cross guild poster again
Buggy is only the figurehead to the Marines. Mihawk and Crocodile are the true leaders of across Guild within the organization. Mihawk was supposed to be Yonko but he said he didn’t care and would rather have the target on Buggy so they could move one with their plans in the shadows.
Who would be a better dinner guest depends on the kind of dinner you want to have. To me a party with shanks sounds better then a quiet dinner with mihawk
4:00 We have yet to see Issho's backstory of his past prior to being conscripted as a new Admiral of the Marines.
Like what he saw was really bad to take his eyes away.
He saw the live action One Piece series
@@conormurphy4328 He saw blackbeard becoming pirate king
While Mihawk is probably the better sword-fighter because of his title, here’s how I’d guess a serious fight would go.
Mihawk: *draws Yoru*
Shanks: *draws Gryphon*
Mihawk and Shanks: *attack*
Mihawk: *knocks Gryphon from Shanks hand*
Shanks: *punches Mihawk’s head off*
Shanks is also known as killer of observation haki that ability alone is just pure hax.
I don't know how oda us going be able to answer all the questions unanswered and show all the fights we're ment to see
I think what this comes down to is when Zoro fights Mihawk. Shanks isn't Luffy's final opponent,barring some wild shifting of how the story has played out so far, but Mihawk would seemingly be Zoro's. So if Zoro is observable stronger than Shanks, and his fight with Mihawk is close/difficult, it would make me think Mihawk was stronger.
Mentioning Mihawk's toilet as a recurring joke gets me every time XD
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Haha don't know why after 10 years of watching One Piece, I've only now found this channel.
Good videos man
Shanks’ rat-rat fruit model: snitch is pretty op
Looks like you had the Baka Baka fruit model your comment
Enma drains the users Busoshoku Haki. If the Black blade does the same thing but on a larger scale, imagine the level of mastery Mihawk has to wield it. Truly the Greatest Swordsman.
I feel like Mihawk wins, why? Because they both use the same fighting style, swords. And in this area Mihawk is the best in the world having way more skill, meanwhile Shanks uses his sword as a way to fight as he isnt a brawler, so he is probably more of a haki master, (wich Mihawk will also be) meaning that in a fight, Mihawk, having a huge skill advantage, at least for me, he wins.
It depend on the difference between their sword skills compared to the difference between their mastery of haki.
Shanks didnt brought his sword to defeat the Sea king because his sword have a devil fruit. They said none of the members of the red hair have a DF, not that any are in possession of one! Divine departure is not a Haky skill, it's a DF power
Rip Garp 😢
tweet I came across this week,"If it is a youtube pole,always bet on Shanks"That person was right
You forgot that mihawk is 1cm taller than shanks, the same way that zoro is taller than sanji by 1cm, and king is taller than queen by 1cm. I rest my case.
It is the opposite, Shanks is 1 cm taller.
The thought of these legends going for each others nuts is too hilarious. In my head the paramount war looks much different now.
A swordsman is someone who lives by the sword and dies by the sword, its a lifestyle.
Mehawk will suprise a lot of stubborn fans who just knowing all too well choose to live in denial.
I think I have an idea about the identity of the D clan, in chapter 1066 shaka told robin that the empty century is the history of a war that was between 20 kingdoms and a specific kingdom which had an advanced civilization and after the 20 kingdoms victory they have formed an organization called the world government and then deleted everything that has something to do with that advanced kingdom from history, and shaka said that he thinks the ohara incident happened because they found out about that kingdom’s existence, and then in chapter 1085 imu said that D was the name of our enemies, what if the people who used to live in that advanced kingdom are the D clan? I think they were so powerful and dangerous and they were a serious menace since 20 kingdoms had to cooperate with each other just to face that specific kingdom I mean wow!
I honestly don’t even see how Mihawk vs Shanks is even a debate. There is clearly only one obvious, objectively correct answer.
And it’s Buggy.
0:09 - 0:16 I'm reminded of that one meme where a guy slams himself in front of a crowd, says one word, and the crowd turns violent against each other. I don't know what that meme template is called, but hopefully you all know what I'm talking about.
Edit: 3:38 - 3:58 That made me LOL, nice one Liam. XD
Didn't they say that the Red-Haired Pirates' attacks in Film Red were not real and just created for the purpose of the movie without showing how they really fight?
It could be that shanks and mihawk competed at swordsmanship in a way similar to garp and his battleship bags. Maybe their rule was that they were not allowed to use haki during the fight, and therefore mihawk beat shanks based purely on his skill as a swordsman, not his general strength as a fighter. Which would also explain why mihawk was curious about attacking whitebeard in the first place, as he's not used to fighting top tier opponents with devil fruits on top of haki. I think we need to ask oda if I'm right or not to get the real answer
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1) I think giving Mehawk the bointy point was unfair. Even if Shanks is an Emperor, its not like he alone holds the bounty for everyone! Every individual holds a bounty of his own and hence it seems WG keeps things simple by assigning bounties individually.
2) If you make the same two polls for Shanks and WB or Shanks and Roger, you would see that results of the two polls would be quite opposite!
Shanks : Hey mihawk lets have a duel
Mihawk : Sure, but you not allowed to use haki since ur haki is stronger than me.
The bigger question is which of the two would win in a drinking contest?
Shanks probably but Mihawk would do amazingly well for how serious he is shanks has more experience
bro imagine gol d roger vs white beard and they just stare at eachother's balls to see who can crush the other's balls faster and whoever does the deed first gets to says "THE ONE PIECE IS REAL" while ballin was playing in the background and the whole of the crews of the emperors are sing along . now that's a arc i want before the end . @GrandLineReview do your thing that u do internet man
Mihawk lays out what a swordsman is in his fight with zoro chapter 51 I think? It requires that you never accept defeat even in the face of death. Shank giving up his arm and hat for Luffy is him giving up on his dream disqualifying him from Mihawks swordsman criteria.
MR. One uses the dice dice fruit instead of a sword, but I'm pretty sure he still considers himself primarily a swordsman.
Mihawk once said to zoro that a skilled swordsman can gauge the level of another before unsheating their sword. If he saw shanks during the war, and is still looking for an opponent stronger than shanks (according to mihawk's vivre card) he is stronger than shanks
I think the most important thing to consider is this: although it isn't fully elaborated upon in detail, all throughout One Piece it's been constantly implied that being a swordsman is its own unique talent and that there's a rich mythos of swordsmanship we only see glimpses of because the story is about pirates, not swordsman.
Mihawk holds a distinction as the world's greatest swordsman. Mihawk's blade Yoru holds notoriety as the legendary black blade. "Black blades" are themselves an entire phenomenon where swords used in battle continuously will eventually become black as if they are always coated in haki. There's a special name for named weapons of note. There are grades of swords/weapons, supreme, great, skillful, and grade. These grades are so exclusive we know the names of the weapons in these grades and how many weapons exactly are in each grade. Like that Yoru is one of the 12 supreme grade swords. Swordsmen's styles are recognized by other swordsmen, on more than one occassion another character has described Zoro as "a user of *the* three sword style" rather than "a man who fights with three swords" for instance. Even when Zoro doesn't fight with his swords, it's described as "no sword style" in the same manner as his three sword style. Characters who do fight with swords but also have additional powers to back them up like Brook or King aren't called swordsmen.
Shanks is a yonko who has no special abilities aside from haki (something any person can use provided they're trained in it) and swordsmanship. However he is never described with any of the mystique previously mentioned. He's rarely ever referred to as a swordsman. His sword and the fact it's named, Gryphon, is an afterthought and of little significance to other characters including other sword wielders. It's weird to say but Shanks is *not* a swordsman despite the fact he exclusively fights with a sword and no other power. There's a certain level of dedication and reverence for the way of the blade other swordsmen characters have he doesn't have or at least we haven't seen from him. Perhaps because he is first and foremost a pirate. In much the same way that Mihawk is rarely if ever actually described as a pirate, exclusively being a true swordsman. When Mihawk and Shanks clash it doesn't ever appear that the title of world's strongest swordsman is on the line because Shanks isn't one and so can't hold the title.
All of this is to say that, Mihawk being the world's strongest swordsman doesn't necessarily make him stronger than Shanks even in a swordfight. Shanks could be well and above Mihawk perhaps by an appreciable amount even, but Mihawk could still be the strongest swordsman despite that because in One Piece "swordsman" is a special class of individual Shanks just isn't part of.
You brought up some questions I have myself. How would Mihawk fare against the world's strongest axe user? Is a sword by default the ultimate weapon in the One Piece world? Being strong with a certain weapon doesn't necessarily make you the greatest or most powerful fighter in the world. It makes you the best at fighting with that weapon. I have to assume that means he knows all the sword styles as well, because weapon and hand to hand combat have various forms of fighting styles that go along with them. Also, being the greatest with a weapon doesn't mean a god can't just stomp you out of existence and laugh at you while you wave your sword around crying, "But I'm the greatest such and such weapon user!" Power level difference definitely matters.
Anytime Oda shrouds a character he never disappoints, just look at what he did with Garp. Very eager to see what he does with Mihawk. My biggest question is how will Zoro ever catch up to him??
Using titles is a problem to me because Strongest Swordsman requires them to fight for the title, and Shanks was a friendly rival, he never wanted to take the title of WSS.
He is so right that Shanks vs Mihawk sparks the biggest debates. Even Obama Biden and Trump were arguing over it
How much you want to bet that somehow at the end of the story The Lord of the Coast returns in some significant way, like to straight up eat one of Blackbeard’s crew(I’m betting on Burgess).
The main thing is just that Mihawk was used early on, meaning he matched up against characters that are mostly relatively fodder by now. He then hasn't shown anything much in recent times. Which means he kinda feels like a chump for not just rolling all the fodder from back then, and then hasn't shown anything concrete to show he can still step to the world cap. Meanwhile Shanks didn't do shit for most of the story, but at least all the top tiers shat their pants at his presence. Then he did show he could easily slap an enemy even Big Mom had trouble putting down. So...Mihawk needs to actually do stuff soon.
Ctfu why are you so savage mate!? 😂😂😂😂 this video was hilarious "WHT are you using that arm for!? All the people you aren't fighting?"
The funny thing here is that it is implied that some debates are not toxic😅.
All debates are toxic.
8:17 "This man can stop an admiral with Coc alone" -Liam
talks goes from who’s stronger to why you were adopted
Mihawks bounty might be that high since he used to be the a marine hunter before his bounty was frozen and now he's the strongest person associated with cross guild who the marines do find to be a sizable threat.