Redhat Linux 5.2 on 25yr old PC
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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This video is about Redhat Linux 5.2 and my 25 yr old Intel Pentium 100Mhz.
I got this boxed Redhat Linux 5.2 lying here and wondered what I would do it ... then I saw this unused business-like boring pentium 100Mhz on my self and thought this could be match made in heaven.
I decided to install Linux on the old PC and re-create my feelings towards Linux that I had when I installed that very same version of Redhat in 1998, most likely on very similar hardware.
Join me on this journey back in time, where we install Redhat 5.2 and play around with window managers like FVWM2, Gnome and Enlightment.
Enjoy......
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You should call the number for customer support and act like you need help installing.
My first Linux came with "Teach yourself Linux in 24 Hours" late 90's
And how did those 24hrs go ? :)
@@RetroSpector78 The Display was B&W it needed a driver "Package" and Modem wasn't detected , But Shell environment was great like you I liked the Boot and all the info it was showing I remember VI editor I used it for trying C coding and reading Books from Gutenberg Project.
@@nemoincognito4179 new Linux can do that too by typing a couple commands in the terminal.
I use Linux mint 18.1 mate 64 bit on my PC I built myself and on my Dell laptop that has been upgraded
Yeah mine came with the RH 5.0 :D
@@PT-rg2vo the Book had Redhat Linux that's why I bought it.
This is the version of Linux that got the world's attention. It actually says on the box, ""Systems running Red Hat Linux are able to run continuously for months on end". If you look carefully you'll see it under the "Desktop Environment" paragraph on the back of the box at 0:35. I never forgot that epic brag was actually written on the box. What's awesome is that this old version of Linux looks fantastic on screen even today. Boy do I miss the days when Linux took itself seriously enough to come in boxed versions with epic printed mauals. Nobody even got close to the old days of SUSE Linux - I still have all my complete boxed sets, those are treasures to me now.
Looks like there's an Intel 80486 core for the MiSTer project so that may be the safest place to go and run vintage operating systems - where there would be no veiled Intel microcode program doing mysterious stuff (i.e., enabling secret trap door acces to the CPU). In MiSTer demos it was shown running old Windows 3.x, which did use the protected mode of the 80386 - so chances are that mid 1990s Linux would run well on it too.
Dude I bought a copy of RH 5.0 back in I think '99.. it was my first time using a *nix type system, and I had no internet, so I had no real help.. I never got too far with it. Now I use linux all the time. It's great to look back and see what it could've done if I had been more knowledgeable.
10:42 Those were the days when the X server needed its Xorg.conf (or was it Xfree86.conf) file, without which it would not display anything properly. It took about another decade before the indefatigable Keith Packard and his mates were able to rework the X server to figure out the necessary configuration automatically, so Xorg.conf became largely optional.
Playing around with an old slackware (3 disk base system and 5 disk x windows). Did not find a setup program for X on it but it had some sample Xconfig files that could be tweaked a bit ... nice to see how relatively easy it is / was to get X up and running. Remember as a kid I was a bit overwhelmed by all the config options , video modes, and fear of destroying my monitor by configuring the wrong horizontal / vertical syncs
lol i ran 5.2 back in the day... i think it was on an AMDk6-2 350Mhz running at 450Mhz
awesome, ty
you should do video on the original BSD unix os
first time i see you installing something non microsoft :) thank you! haha, here I was thinking you only knew windows and DOS. :) maybe you can do an OS/2 video too :)
Might have the perfect IBM machine and a sealed os/2 box for that :)
@@RetroSpector78 I remember early versions came on many floppy disks..... you can imagine getting to disk 12 and seeing the dreaded 'sector not found' or 'general failure reading drive a:' lets hope the disks have stood the test of time ;)
*6:21** "Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug" LOL*
"Intel - we deliver you bugged CPUs since 1976"
hehe ... could do a while video series on that alone :)
@@RetroSpector78 yeah, please go ahead and do it. And don't forget about other hilarious bugs like A20 line overflow, FDIV bug, you name it :))
@@RetroSpector78 and unprivileged
CLI
JMP $
instant lock up under multitasking OS, too (until they virtualized the interrupt flag in later 486s, yet Win9x didn't give a shit about that feature hehe)
Bugged on purpose thanks to the friendly folks over at Langley
@@nneeerrrd Win95 didn't give a shit. Sure. Shall i repeet it to my self every time when i where saw windowsnaturalgaybluescreen? Or when that windows shit installed in one localisation can not even read file names in another localisation (Even in windows98 or 2000). :D
This was so fun to see, I'm starting to get a bit tired of all the DOS and Windows content out there so it's really fun and refreshing to see some retro Linux instead, and 1998 was right about when I got into Linux myself. I did run Slackware though.
Thx a lot glad you enjoyed . If you’ve got any tips on what would be fun / interesting to see in a future video please let me know ...
Why? Linux is boring as hell. I first tried it around 98/99 as well and hated it from the beginning. Its totally useless. No games support linux on the old machines.
@@macdaniel6029 To each their own, but I feel the same about Windows and DOS. They are boring as hell, while Linux is actually interesting. Sure if games is what you care about you shouldn't run Linux, but for almost everything else, I like it way more.
@@jayminer But what can you actually do with Linux on a Pentium 100? Work? L33T h4xx0ring? DOS/Windows will turn every old computer into a fun gaming machine. With Linux its just obsolete technology. Like an electronic typewriter, just more complicated.
@@macdaniel6029 Well, to me I guess it's mostly about nostalgia at this point. I still think old Linux is way more usable than old Windows on an old computer if you want to play around with it for anything but games, but DOS/Windows for sure is unbeatable when it comes to that. But Linux was great when it comes to networking and lots of that stuff even back then.
Heyyy! This was my first Linux experience! I still have the manual
@Peyton Canaan looool hacker scam
It was mine too.
Mine too man... I also used to has an old SuSE version in the College computer lab
Massive nostalgia watching this.
Enlightenment was amazing. I wasted loads of hours playing with ethemes. I've not seen anything today that looks as cool.
That’s the idea ... hope you liked it !
I would still use E16, but for practical reasons Mate is more user friendly.
There is something "early-90s Amiga-ish taken high Res" about it.
@Rob Reynolds Ahhh, Enlightenment! I saw it for the first time back in 2000 with my first ever copy of THE COMPLETE LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM v6.0!(Mandrake Linux 6). That cd set of 3, had All the GUI goodies I still love today! I would be at work, thinking of Ethemes and window managers and Linux, and so anxious and excited to get back home to my apartment to play with Linux some more and discover more..ENLIGHTENMENT!! Sadly, E16 which is still my favorite version of E(early versions crashed ALOT, and the new version is not much better at that now!), is NOT available for Debian and Ubuntu based Linux distros. I had it in Fedora(Redhat), and OpenSUSE, but those distros do not have OTHER apps I love like CDE desktop and so on. Always somethin I tells ya.. LOL! I love Linux, and E and old GNOME desktop was the main reason!! Anybody remember the movie ANTITRUST?? Redhat Linux with Gnome desktop and Enlightenment WM was featured on the computer in the children's day care computer lab scene..
When the harddrives are identified by hda instead of sda, you know it's old
SCSI disks showed up as sdX even back then :D As I recall, hdX faded out as SATA AHCI hit.
@@jeffcullen6573 yeah that's true. But I still used good old IDE drives when they phased it out and names all disks sdx
It was the transition to libata.
@@nickwallette6201 That makes sense!
Puppy linux still us HdX, i reckon
Oh man, RedHat 5.x was my first exposure to Unix-like operating systems as a kid. Someone threw out an old 486DX 33MHz machine, and the library had gotten a copy of some Linux reference book with the install CD in the back. We didn't have internet, so when we wanted to install anything that we heard about or saw at the library online we would have to download it and carry it back home via floppies.
RPM Dependency became a special kind of hell when all you had was bicyclenet.
Edit: or was it faster I can't remember
My first Linux came on a multi CD set with roughly six different distributions packaged together by a place called Walnut Creek Software. They were quite famous in the mid 1990s for affordable CD sets of free software by mail order. A colleague suggested RedHat was the easiest one to install.
Hahaha, Bicyclenet. Ain't that shit the truth! Yeah, I remember cursing RPM dependencies back in the day...hasn't really changed much in the modern day lol dependencies are still a pain in the ass if you're not paying attention lol
Honestly, dependencies now are mostly a breeze, unless you are compiling from source or something. I think. I haven't ran Slackware since the early '00s; SuSE's and Fedora's stuff covers it for me.
I do not miss bicyclenet.
Exact thing happens to me my first exposure to Linux was redhat 5.2 today I am using arch
Bicycle dependency repair is probably still faster than a windows 10 update.
"Developer tools: FORTRAN" serious business.
7:56 ext2 filesystems ... still supported today.
When I read Linux 5.2 in the title I thought of modern kernel and was like WTF? …how?
I have modern Gentoo running on a Pentium II. :-) Takes all day to recompile the kernel. I haven’t gotten it to run on a Pentium though. Tried, panics on boot, tried disabling a few things via boot parameters, still hangs or panics. Gave up.
@@nickwallette6201 Nice.
Yeah, I remember being confused by distro version numbers versus kernel version numbers for my first little while being exposed to Linux.
By the way -- 6:24 -- this is a 2.0.x kernel, and I’m pretty sure the first kernel version I was aware of using was 2.4.something. Though I did later, much later, come across a machine under a lecturer’s desk with an ancient 2.2-based system on it (probably Red Hat) ...
I've got the latest Alpine Linux 3.11.3 (Linux 5.4.6) running pretty much out of the box (had to add libata.dma=0 because of corruption issues with it enabled) on my Pentium 233 MMX. The 32-bit Alpine uses a i586 target. Alpine is light enough that it is actually pretty snappy and packages install rather quickly. Latest xorg even works fine with my Nvidia Riva 128zx.
You can run the latest TinyCore 11.1 with kernel 5.4 on a Pentium. The only thing I'm struggling to get up and running is my AWE32 non-PnP. A PCI sound card should work fine, though.
This brings memories! I used to play with Linux, tried many ones (RH, Caldera, a Brazilian distro called Conectiva)... was always formatting my machine back then!
Yeah ... also kept on remembering stuff here that I totally forgot.
@z3 I remember when it was still called Mandrake Linux. Heck, I might have a boxed copy of a release somewhere....
ah the first linux version i ever used, got a copy at walmart for 10$, didnt even really have internet back then except for dial-up, first thing i remember was dependency hell, you need package A to install package B, but package A needs package C to be installed first. (or worse when the package A requires package B but package B requires package A, sorta having to force install and ignore dependancies), thank god for package managers (Yum, Apt, and Pacman)
package A needs Package B, but package B needs Package A and the darn app will not install, is STILL and issue if you do not have the $$ to pay for internet! My internet was cut off due to lack of funds, and I tried to install and make Debian 10 work like I wanted with Virtualbox and CDE desktop, and while I had to constantly go to neighbors internet connected lappy to then run up to my non wifi tower to install missing deps, at the end, only CDE desktop installed but virtualbox DID NOT!! Becuase of the scenerior described here. Sadly, like the intel bug , this too is by design.. You need $$ and pay for internet now, if you want to enjoy anything computer or computing based.. REALLY sucks how that is. But I tried to live like it was 2000-2001 again, and now I KNOW and SEE why my Linux experience was so hit and miss, lack of ethernet connected broadband internet.. wifi might as well be dail up if you do not have a card to put in the towers and connect that way. But.. for that retro waay back machine fun, yes, using, old Linux with old PCs that match the era, is an alternative to modern computing and productivity.. A good time waster and strangely. also VERY educational? What a paradox! Love Linux!
My was RHL 3.... Well... Actually was slackware, then RHL.... Back there in '95 or '96.... Can't remember the exactly year.
I downloaded Slackware 7 over a dial up modem. It took me 3 days to get all 128 MB of it. I learned about mget * then.
This, but with SuSE I bought at a bookstore on a 200Mhz Compaq!
I grew up with SuSE 8.1 on my first own PC.
Brings back so many memories when I had to bring out all 8 CDs to install stuff when you didn't have internet
Yes, suse 6.0 is on the shelf next to me. Should try this again
@@awesomefacepalm After Red Hat 7.2 I ran whatever SuSE was out then for a long time. Up until that PC caught fire and died.
@@1pcfred my PCs has yet to do that 😁 was it a molex to sata?
@@awesomefacepalm it was just a bad PSU I used for too long. In a way it did me a favor. If that PC hadn't died I'd probably still be using it today.
Wow.... That Escom PC brings back memories. We had a 486 DX4 100Mhz one that was upgraded many times.
Always had a soft spot that Case :)
This is why compact flash or sd2ide adaptors are a life saver. Old hdds can die at any moment. Plus they are expensive compared to a CF or SD card. If only someone made some "old hdd sounds emulator", so i could hook it to the hdd led and have it make noises when theres activity :D
Think these sound emulators do exist. You should google them ...
I don't think so... I have over 20 yo hdd and they're still in perfect condition...
@@PiotrK2022
sure, and ive had old hdd that suddenly died with much less than 20 years. I remember a 6GB seagate hdd, of the ones that had the "sea shell" underneath and one time i turned on the machine i was testing and bang, one of the chips suddenly had a crater in it. The motor driver suddenly decided to kill itself.....
Also had issues with the previous hdd, i dont recall the brand but it was a 3GB one, had a bad sectors problem around the middle of the address space, so i suppose it was a two platters hdd and had tarnish in either the center or towards the outer edge.
My cousing also had issues with a 20gb matrox hdd.
Whether or not yours last 20 years is a matter of luck, not a guarantee
On the positive side, i have a 1.2GB conner peripherials that still works relatively ok, it has a few bad sectors spread evenly throughout the disc but not a serious failure like the others.
On the more modern side, i have my 80GB hitachi sata hdd that started having spin up issues at around 65k hours,so i retired it. Guess it still works, but i remember it sometimes took some time to initialize and you could hear it clicking meanwhile.
On the other hand, my 1TBx4 raid5 has about 90k hours on each hdd and none of them has failed so far. Not even visivle changes in the SMART report. (in both cases, my pc remains on 24/7, 99.7% uptime last time i checked)
Well that brings back a flood of memories. I remember waiting for 5.2 to be released and then I must have done a couple hundred installs when I worked for a server company. We did our development work on Sparc Stations as we waited for the dual Pentium Pro motherboards which was the first Intel machine to challenge the Unix world. You could have also done this install on your Alpha box, we had a number of those too. Thanks!
This very box changed my life and made my career. I begged my mother to get it for me for Christmas when I was 14 in 1998, and spent many sleepless nights getting it up and running on a HP Vectra 486/66N so I could use it to share out the 56k dialup connection with all 4 PCs on the 10BASE-T LAN in the basement. This channel sure brings back memories. Thank you!
I love the scrolling boot text in Linux, it's helped me diagnose several bios and hardware setup issues on older systems
Oh my... that was exactly how I first experienced Linux! Very clunky! Then tried SuSE, Mandrake, and finally I was recommended to give Debian Sarge a try. I finally could get real work done with Linux! Debian let me down a couple of years later, so was suggested to consider Ubuntu. Ubuntu 7.04 worked where Debian Etch was failing, I was sold! I only went back to Debian to confirm the issue with the Samba packages were resolved.
Cool video😷 My first Red Hat distribution was 7.3 on 800 Mhz Duron and 128 Mb ram. I remember when I compiled the mplayer program and my own 2.4 kernel.
I was extremely proud of myself. Nice memories and nostalgia.
Yeah ... building kernels and modules to support new hardware was always fun.... never worked on the first try :)
Damn red hat. As a teenager I installed this onto a spare partition and obviously messed up as it partitioned the whole drive back in the day. There went all my games and everything lol.
Think a lot of people had issues with that. When I had my first PC i accidentally deleted config.sys and thought the PC was completely bricked and was unfixable :) that was day 1 of me working with a PC. We’ve come a long way :)
@@RetroSpector78 I think we learn a lot from our mistakes but I just wish they weren't drive busting ones lol.
That machine configuration is very close to my machine when I first installed RH5 back in 1997
This video was preceded by a rigourous hardware selection process :) I did have to replace the 4x cdrom drive because the original one had failed But other than that it is pretty time period correct I think. Hope it brought back some memories.
This video brings me back sweet memories !
I remember a lot of things those days.
25 years ...
I don't know what to say this kind of feeling.
What a long time i lived...
Hoho!
I remember how I setting up redhat 5.1 on pentium pro computer. This computer has 1.2 G hdd and cd-rom.
It was in 1999 or 2000.
25 yo intel pentium 100 Phz ......... from roswell wreck !
Pentium 100 doesn't SOUND (to my ears) like super ancient computing history. but no USB and no CD-Rom boot really shows how long ago this really was in technology years.
In theory this should also work on a 386 machine, but a pentium 100 and redhat 5.2 would have been a realistic match back in the day.
I think USB didn't start to appear until around the Pentium 233 MMX era, around 1997. From memory the Pentium 100 is from 1996.
@ Chris Ransdell, its mad how far things have moved, I remember been at school, using windows 3.11 with systems with just floppy drives! Only one pc, in the class had a CD Rom drive, which I think was the one that the ICT tech used to build an image from.
Procta hehe ... I remember when I was 11 the computer classroom was filled with Philips MSX computers ... we also had one at home and as such I was quickly drawing all kinds of shapes on the screen using BASIC... like a rockstar ... for what it’s worth ... very briefly .... and none of the girls were very impressed :)
15:11 xedit still exists--it’s part of the same package as xeyes, namely x11-apps on Debian.
I guess the box differs in the USA. My Red Hat 5.2 is white.
O...M....G.... this was actually my computer. I sold this thing via Tweakers.net 3 years ago. I even mounted a fan to the original CPU cooler since I shipped it with a AMD CPU.
Probably its twin brother then ... this one has been sitting in someones storage for a very very long time ....
@@RetroSpector78 You sure?When I found this I searhed my old harddrive for photo's and some scratches are identical to mine case. Whats the partnumber? Is it also made in ''Mierlo''? I have a photo of the label as well.
ThunderEagle in the video the label is shown in close up when I go over the computer
What's the newest version of Red hat you could install on that PC?
all those computers all those software :) .. Once I had a time machine Im going back to the 70s - 80s for sure..
For the old pentium motherboards with an intel 430FX chipset, you could upgrade them with a, at the time freely available, MrBios bios, which I think also offered cdrom boot and was the fastest for bootup time. tbc
Did not know that thx ... but was a good excuse to try the old redhat boot disk ... still working to my surprise.
@@RetroSpector78 Last year, last time I checked my floppies, most of'm were still working, even the 5" 360k ones. Sadly, the most failing part is the drives.
@@Jim_Bo Often the old floppy drives can be got working again with a good head clean and lubricating certain parts. Though I still use a USB floppy emulator for convenience.
@@zoomosis I still have a few drives laying around, tried the head cleaning but without experience or any idea of what exactly I'm looking for on the heads (there's no gunk or anything and the head looks smooth) I have left those projects in a box, stuffed somewhere alongside the rest of things that require some TLC. I do remember one floppy which had only one head reading, though reseating the connector for that head and replacing the head with a working one from another drive didn't give any better working results, so I'm just left to guess on that one as well.
Have had mixed luck ... some work others don’t. Received about 500 3.5 inch 1.44 mb disks the other day and started formatting a couple to see in what condition they were in. Only about 20% came clean without bad sectors.
i do get hard see RED HAT BOX....not sure why
This was the first version of Linux I used. I installed it on an Escom 486DX2. It still has a better install procedure than a vanilla Arch install!
I agree , Enlightenment looked great
"low radiation", lol, well that's good. Is that a small speaker grill down by the other buttons?
Really love that Proview monitor. Had the exact same one when I was young so nice little extra. And yeah ... low radiation / energy star ... those were the days :) Thought it was just decoration in the case ... didn't see any speakers :)
There was a lot of scaremongering about "radiation" from CRT monitors. A significant number of office workers were convinced they were being baked by gamma rays.
@@ian_b It just puts you in an odd spot as a consumer...on one hand if your convinced your getting radiation from the monitor I guess its good to know it's a "low radiation" one. One the other hand there's "out of sight out of mind" and I'm sure some people didn't want to be constantly reminded by that badge or think they were constantly being bombarded with rads even if it was "low".
@@AncientElectronics Yes, it is a bit like marketing food as "less poisonous" isn't it? :)
I remember being amused by this whole “low radiation” thing. Particularly after reading reports of a study which found that risk levels _increased_ as radiation exposure went down ...
It was a system that you spent more time setting up than using :) In those days SuSE was much more polished and much easier to administer. How they blew this head start is a mystery to me.
thank you for giving me a flashback into time with my first redhat,and how crappy hdds was back then
You’re welcome....
that's the first version of linux i used, on a pentium 133mhz with 24mb ram and a 2mb videocard.
Classic setup. I can imagine this would have been an excellent combo back in the day.
Sounds like a nice setup.
I bought from Office Depot Redhat 5.2. The software was free, you were just paying for the Book. It also included Linux for Dummy's as a bonus. I installed it on a 386DX and ran pretty well. Sadly I couldn't connect to the web since my ISP at the time was Juno and my Modem was a WinModem.
Ah ... winmodems .... also something I completely forgot about :)
I had that same box. Drove from Starville MS to Jackson MS to buy it from CompUSA. Spilled Domino's garlic butter on the installation guide and it had a nice garlic smell to it for. years.
Haha :)
Hahaha, this brought a veritable wave of memories flooding in; RHL 5.2 was the distro I started on. Bought a copy at an Ocean State Job Lots store back around 2000. Bought several Linux distros from there, actually, including RHL 9. What an experience it was, trying out such an interesting operating system compared to Windows back then. That led me t Ubuntu after RedHat proper went enterprise. I still use Windows primarily, but my lappy is is a Linux notebook. Good times, though. Thanks for bringing some great memories back. I never knew about Enlightenment, though, always used bog standard xWindows. I had no clue what I was doing back then lol
This was the very first linux box version that I bought.
My first Linux experience was with Ubuntu 6.06 when I first went to college on an old Pentium III laptop I bought third hand for school. After that I used Opensuse on a beat up Pentium IV. After seven years of hell in Windows Land I am using Linux Mint and loving it.
haven't really used much of linux on the desktop myself ... when I started working in 2001 everything was heavily microsoft oriented. In 2011 I jumped ship to Apple. Only in cloud / server environments is where I come into contact with linux. And also enjoy MacOSX as I spend a lot of time in the terminal.
Red Hat kept this text based installation UI for a long time. My first linux was Slackware but I could not learn it, my second shot was RH Linux 7.2 I liked it, so I have been using Red Hat distros for a long time.
hehe.... you should checkout my slackware video ... Do have to warn you , there is a chance of you changing distros because of it :)
I loved RED HAT. I have it saved...still.
This brings back so many memories. I bought the boxed version of Red Hat 5.0 and ran it on a Pentium 166 machine back in the day. Spent hours just tweaking it and messing around with different software. My favorite window manager back then was window maker.
Hehe ... happy times !
It's still my favourite today! I also started with linux on a P166, though initially with SuSE and then RH 5.2, later switched to Mandrake, FreeBSD and eventually, when Internet access at home became possible, Gentoo. Still haven't found anything as fast, stable or easy to configure as WindowMaker after all these years...
This was my first install of Linux, had it off a magazine. As you say, it was amazing at the time. Thanks for putting it up, really took me back!
My First Linux was Slackware 3.0 and then Red Hat 4.2
I got my first version of Linux from a magazine as well! It was Redhat 5-something, and I got it from the Swedish PC+ magazine :-)
Love that Donald Becker at NASA GSFC attached his email to the Ethernet module. Wonder if he’s still checking that account?
I’ll send him a mail and ask :)
First Linux distribution I used was Redhat 3, which I stuck with until they split into the paid for Enterprise and free Fedora versions. I also ran NetBSD on servers, which had better cross platform support at the time (SPARC, Alpha and VAX in my case).
RH 5.2 was my introduction to Linux, I didn't get the box set though, just the system CD which was 10 bucks from a local business. I stayed with RH through version 6 then switched to Mandrake which was very popular at the time, then switched to Gentoo shortly after that came out and stayed with that ever since.
I forgot how nerve wracking watching Linux load from a floppy was. My machines were always 2nd hand and old... 486 class in 2000 or so. Now I think I’ll dig some parts and try it again!
Yeah I found it to be a lot of fun. Didn’t mind the hard drive crash at all... that’s the way it goes .... reminds you how much patience we had back in the day. Imagine clicking in something now and having to wait 30 seconds before your browser pops up :)
What about KDE? It's a really nice desktop envirment, even that is old, it's pretty nice
Might do a separate episode on that.
25 years ago this was very powerful machine, I wish had PC like this in 1995...
i do remember redhat 5 nice one. Had a sun sparcstation 4 but couldnt get solaris for it so used redhat that had sparc version at the time and i do remember dependencies with older linux distros, they were awful, wanted something that needed something else to even install and you get that and it too needed something to install and after 37 different packages you still needed something to run something and after that it was time to format and reinstall to get all the errors fixed and start over :)
I think when the Pentium got into the 200 MHz, they needed fans on the heat sinks, I did have a Pentium 75 MHz, that only had the heat sink and it ran for fun.
I was young playing with those :D Thanks
I am surprised that the original floppy disk is still readable after such a long time. You are lucky...
Was also surprised by that. Saved me the hassle of creating a new one as the computer could not boot from cd
Red Hat Linux 5.2 was probably the first Linux distribution I came into contact with, at least on paper (I stumbled into a book about Linux based on RH 5.2 around the middle of the '00s and I haven't had an internet connection back then, so it was a really interesting read to me, and I still have this book, really worn out from countless reading sessions), but I remember it fondly :)
Cool!! That's exactly what I tried in 1996 on a my first PC with exactly Pentium 100! How big is the RAM ? The Enlightenment environment is amazing!
Enlightenment is still around and considered lightweight today.
Are you in France? I see a lot of AZERTY keyboards in many of your videos :)
Belgium ... that other country that uses AZERTY :)
Someday I would love to have a old PC to play the games I grew up with, and no compatibility errors. with windows m.e. and no internet lol.
And a CRT monitor :)
So, it _was_ your photo on Reddit a few days ago. I knew ithe setup seemed familiar! :D
Yes it was :) hope you enjoyed the video
The Enlightenment part of the video brought back memories of me using NPSWPS on OS/2 Warp 3 on a 486DX2/66 in around 1996. Though not to the same extremes. Just using bitmaps for the desktop background on a 486 slowed things down.
Yeah enlightenment was really cool ... blew my mind back in the day.
I used enlightenment Version E17 but somehow it broke as linux got updates and began to consume memory and didn't free it again. One thing I remember what the colleques were really jealous, was that I could switch the Virtual Monitors on a Multimonitor System independently. Gnome always switched all screens together. The Eyceandy was great and was really snappy. Too bad, it went down the hill.
E17 has always been experimental and full of bugs. And according to me not as nice as E16.
In high school we had a lab of 6 Pentium 100 desktops that we installed RedHat Linux on that we could experiment with whatever we wanted. I downloaded a Doom port and that was the end of Linux club.
I can imagine ... was always cool to see these games run in x windows. Same with quake if I remember correctly.
Sseing this makes me think that I shouldn't have tried to run Knoppix 3.7 with KDE3.3 from CD back in 2003 on my MMX200 with 48MB RAM.
It was still magical nonetheless because it looked so different from Windows yet somehow familiar, I loved it.
Thanks for showing this older release of RedHat.
Wanted to get a hold of my very first linux cd but was unable to find it. Contained an old slackware version.
13:04 And remember, all this fun was _before_ they started putting a timestamp on the front of each line ...
I just got through repairing a customer's Xenix machine. You see all of that while Xenix is booting too. Thankfully nothing much was wrong with it...
Fascinating. Have you tried NetBSD? I wonder if NetBSD would work as a drop in replacement. I imagine it might be easier to support, unless you have Xenix Sources
@@eusebiusthunked5259 I have not. These computers are used for bowling front counter control systems from the early to mid 90's. I have a few copies of the original software on floppies and tapes. I'm trying to help the smaller centers keep running on their old equipment since the new stuff is very expensive.
@@jim8230 are they 386 systems or older? If you get a chance, it might be worth seeing if NetBSD can support it just to have a bit more flexibility, there's a chance that you may be able to extend the life of the software. At one point NetBSD offered Binary Emulation for other Unix executables. I'm not sure how modular the equipment is, but if you're lucky perhaps you might be able to obtain replacement equipment from obsolete PC systems which can still drive the necessary interfaces, extending the usable life of the system?
@@eusebiusthunked5259 I'll look into that. Sounds interesting. The machines are either 486 or Pentium 133.
@@jim8230 That should have no problem with NetBSD, but I'm not seeing that NetBSD can run Xenix binaries, although I don't have a box handy to check directly. I am seeing Qemu 3.1 can run Xenix according to virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2019/01/15
Awesome video! My first encounter with Linux was with Red Hat 6.2 in 2000. I overwrote my Windows installation and was quite disappointed to find out that there were no drivers that supported my Rage Mobility GPU 😬 took a whole year to figure out how to get X working with a driver I found online. Learned a lot, though!
Think a lot of people learned a lot while playing around with Linux. Love that fact that you got to learn all of these basic cli commands that are still very useful today (grep, awk, sed,.....)
Great channel! Just subscribed! Thanks for this.
You are very welcome ... emjoy....
Very cool video man! It brings me back some 20 plus years! Great times when I first started with Linux. Keep it up and Thank you for it.
No worries ... glad you enjoyed it !
Linux was fresh and wild back then. So much potential.
Paul Frederick it still is an amazing OS. If you think about how much of the services on the internet depend on it and how it has been embraced by people and organisations it is pretty mind-boggling.
@@RetroSpector78 It is. I still can't look at it the same today as I used to though. A lot has changed between now and then. I can remember getting Infographics Linux CDs that said, "The rebel's OS" on them. It's not that way today with Codes of Conduct in projects. Linux has not gone mainstream but it sure has gone corporate.
Paul Frederick remember those infomagic cd’s. 4 cd and 6 cd sets. Developers resource cd’s. Contained different distros and copies of those popular internet archives. Been searching for those for an upcoming video but lost mine.
One of the very first versions of Linux I used.
I remember installing this when I was 11 years old, 1999.. it took me a couple of days to realize you had to use the dhcpd command manually to get an IP-adress from your router haha! those were the days
Your musing about Enlightenment reminded me of buying my first Slackware 6 CD collection in the 90s. Slackware really was a kitchen sink distribution and I didn't know how to use much of it. I was barely able to get X running as a kid.
What I did play with a lot was Litestep. My desktop looked better than that Enlightenment stuff and it was all under Win98! Better yet, setting your shell to Litestep meant you could avoid crashing every few hours due to the explorer.exe memory leak in Win98 which they never fixed!
Not familiar with Litestep... will add it to my list of things to look at.
Thank you sir for sharing this. My God this was my first Linux ever. Something missing are US Robotic 28.8k external modem with those pppd settings. Englightment with Bluesteel theme with GKRellm and XMMS with matching themes, anime girl wallpaper etc etc this bring back masive memory again thank you.
hehe ... believe me if I could make a modem work on my telephone line to get on the internet I would ... unfortunately that service has been gone for a long time.
@@RetroSpector78 or you can make your own dialin server. Like those old BBS times.
My first version of Linux was this. I bought it at a used book store in 1998. I remember XFree86 wasn't working. To fix it I had to get online which meant setting up a PPP dialer... Took me a week to get everything figured out. But hey, it's my career now!
Thanks for showing this. I have been thinking about Red Hat 5.x these days, and it's nice to see the screens again. The thing I remember the most about these days were trying to get a winmodem to work, and how I managed to get into some kind of rpm dependency hell. I don't remember what computer I had at the time, but I'm pretty sure I didn't have a problem booting from CD. I bought my CDs off of ibiblio instead of the off the shelf, and even bought multiple CDs including ones with extra rpm packages
OMG. My very first Linux, May 1999. It was a bear, my Toshiba 105 laptop only worked with pcmcia. But the documentation was good and it helped me make the Linux pcmcia diskette to run the install CD. Good times. You made an interesting point when you said it was a creative time, and I think that was part of the magic. For once, as crappy as fvwm looked on my little laptop, and with no sound card, it was magical to have another operating system. It was the promise that Windows didn't have to be the only thing that I would have to run. I was already fairly well versed in sun Unix, and to have something more like that running on a Windows 95 built laptop, was a promise of good things to come. The next 5 years or so were amazing, before hardware kind of tapped out and in my opinion wasn't quite as fun anymore. I still hope one day something like that comes along again.
Brings back memories. I started with FreeBSD in 1997. I still have my old dual cpu syystem. I wonder if it will still run.
Beware of magic smoke when powering it on ...
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Once you let the magic blue smoke out, it doesn't work any more.
We used to joke the new guys doing their first build. We would solder a 1/4 Watt resistor across the power socket. The look on their face when they put the AC to it was precious.
I remember using Redhat 6.1 I believe and 7.3 and 9.0. It was soo hit or miss if anything worked with the distro and you could get into RPM hell quite easily.
or even worse stray away from the RPM path and start downloading tarballs and building/installing components and libraries that messed with your clean rpm installations
@@RetroSpector78 I think I ended up using Slackware on my machine in the end.
I have the exact same box and you have no idea the memories you brought back with your video. I have a picture as proof! This was my first Linux distro and it was amazing back in the day... Thanks for this content...
That was my first linux distro ran on my 166 mhz no mmx I bought that box in a book shop at the university. It was the coolest operating system I ever seen my favorite wm was enlightment to :) Slackware was better tough once you got the grips of it. And the irc community was the way to learn.
Don’t have good memories of IRC. Some people were happy to help but a lot of them had their head stuck up their arse and weren’t helpful at all towards newbies. Sometimes felt like a very hostile environment. And visited freenode again for this video and hd the impression things haven’t changed all that much :)
@@RetroSpector78 Hi, yes that is true some of them where some what smug.. I guess I was lucky I knew some of them privately and got a good welcome perhaps.I ended up spending lots of time on freenode giving free support.. By 1998 I started norways first and biggest internett/gaming cafe and we arranged install party's as free service to customers wanting to learn.
Red Hat 5.2, this was supposed to be my first Linux distro back in 1998. Got it from a cover CD of a local IT monthly magazine, brought it home, booted the PC from it and... it crashed not long after starting the kernel. Tried it multiple times, it was always crashing even before it got to the blue installer with red buttons.
So, I ended up with SuSE from the next-month edition of the magazine, since that one actually went through without problems. :)
Also, I had the exact same monitor as on this video. And I still remember the early Gnome, the then cutting-edge Netscape 4, but in my memories my installation of Enlightenment looked way cooler than this. Or maybe it's just a thing with memories after so many years :)
Ahh yes, I used Red Hat 5.2 for a while. I've used quite a few Linux distributions over the years. But I liked this one a lot
Brings back memories, my home web server sported Centos 5 back in 2007 :D
Somehow i cannot remember what distro i had back in 2001 when i decided to use my own server for my homepage and some irc bots :/
This is indeed where it started. With Enlightenment. This is where the whole Linux community was diverted into thinking customization is all about looks, and forgot all about features.
Warms my heart to hear my own thoughts from someone else :D.
haha ... glad you liked it !
My first distro was RedHat 7.1, I was blown away by how flexible Linux desktop was.
What a thrill to turn an ordinary PC into a $10,000 UNIX workstation, back in the day. Any hope of writing software that could run natively anywhere required an expensive UNIX environment, otherwise your work would never run on anything but low end PCs & Macs. Nowadays, the equivalent would be leetcode for Pentium.
Looking at the alternate screens during Linux setup was about the only way to learn when it first came out. Having Google at your fingers wasn't a thing yet. Not even Lycos, or any of the earlier search engines. This was a great trip down memory lane.
Unbelievable how we were able to manage without google.... remember reading lots of offline docs, man pages and posting to newsgroups. Such a different model for getting information....
You could always Ask Jeeves