I have the situational awareness and reflexes of a comatose blind octogenarian.. so i use a radar, but only play SinglePlayerTarkov.. So i’m just murdering bots.. And i still end up getting slapped half the time.. But at least I have a chance..
@@Wirenfeldt1990 you're playing solo, and you use cheats ?? Have fun mate cause in solo games you play the way you want. I play the shit out of the game finish at 100% then I run mods all over to have fun ir experience things in different way. But I would never cheat online this is extremely tragic, and awful to do, because I am experiencing this in apex almost everyday, and it's start to be hard to appreciate online games
Disagreed. Let me explain why. First of all, you would need to define "more" in "more rewarding", because it's subjective. It's probably "more" rewarding (as in more quickly) to just cheat for a few wins. It's probably "more" rewarding (as in fulfilling) to practice, get better, and win by your own skills. Yet both are true depending on point of view. Also, humans are easily tricked by instant gratification events (hello Dopamine my old friend). So it's not surprising at all that a lot of people resort to cheating for a quick dopamine hit. Sure, in the long-run, if you love the game and are dedicated, it will most likely be more fulfilling and rewarding to become actually good and practice, but for a lot of people, the quick and easy way is just as rewarding (I've used this sentence subjectively on purpose ;) ) As someone who has never used Cheats online (or I think maybe once when I was 16 out of curiosity, but it got boring extremely fast, so I did it for 30 min and called it a day), I'm not really into it, but I can definitely understand and see why some people would be. I think understanding that is a more helpful way to fight against cheating than just saying "you guys are losers".
If you are aimboting really obvious, It should not be required to detect software on the cheaters PC. The first clip at 0:45, that are 5 shots at once. Why aren't behaviours that are "impossible" not detected on the server side? Sure it would only works vs the extreme but it would be a start.
Absolutely agree, it's fine killing 5 people with one bullet if everyone aligns, but killing 5 people with 5 bullets with an AWP at the same time should automatically trigger a ban, it's literally impossible.
@@bnikolabthe problem is that it possible because of subtick, legit players have had mag dumps as a glitch. It's not easy to account for that cheat because it's just exploiting a flaw in the net code. Even if you had code to actively monitor for this happening, there would be false positives.
@@xzraiderzx308I didn't know about that, so yeah, automatic response is out of question then. Still, people that mag dump happens to can be put on a list and a human can review the case then.
@@xzraiderzx308 sure, people might have issues with the net code and rapid fire occurring in error - but ALSO getting 5 kills with it is so extremely unlikely, there's a 99.99% chance they're cheating.
@@lankyhanky9772 Nah, just didn't play a lot during free Prime and have good trust factor. Plus, vast majority of cheaters are in Non-Prime. Also doesn't count people who got banned for cheating after or closet cheaters, just guys I can say confidently were cheating either against me or on my team in comp/Premier.
so what is a legit player suppose to do who wants to enjoy counter strike ? i play casually at about 20k . i’m an older play with kids and have been playing cs for 25 years . Casually 5-8 hours a week 3 days per week. it feels like every session out of our 3 pugs we get 1-2 with cheaters . one night was 3 of 3 . Iv been playing for 25 years and know when i’m getting stomped by a better player and when it doesn’t make sense. Especially since i mostly play lurk. Is there a casual community out there who plays cheat free 10 mans
Like everyone else said, FaceIt. When Premier mode and the subtick lock on servers were announced people were debating if FaceIt would suffer player loss, well guess Valve helped them by not releasing an actual good AC. I was really trying to play more of Premier but I just can't, every 2 matches I get a rage hacker and the ELO loss is just too punishing. I'm on the same boat as you, been playing for a decade and now only have time to play it more casually, I just don't have the time to spend hours improving my KPM and reaction time (specially with how peekers still have an advantage), so facing hackers is just too difficult now.
The war on cheaters won’t be won with regulations. The war is doomed to be lost because the ONLY way to achieve victory is pretty similar to the ending of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Cheaters will *ALWAYS* cheat until there is a visceral punishment for doing so.
very very true, as long as there are not propper repercussions and no proper punishement other than getting there accounts banned, its not gonna end... Just like they do it in Korea with league of legends. There you have to connect your league account to your ID and ACTUALLY get prison time or multiple thousands of dollar fines for cheating, which I think is honestly really good.
The problem is that u see with china is that they have jailing those cheat dev and seller but still the most cheater in the world its because they selling cheat privately. I personally ask those cheater how they didn't get found by police.
I'm considering quitting fps games... It has been my favorite genre and I am really good at shooters, especially games like Valorant, CS and Apex. However, the higher I get in ranked, the more cheaters I encounter. This problem has been getting much worse as of late, and I think it will keep getting worse with the technology available to these scumbags. It's just so damn demoralizing when you know someone is cheating and that's the reason you are losing. It also makes you just blame losing games to cheaters even when it's not entirely obvious, because there are just so many cheaters, many of which are "legit" cheating. (whatever that means, they are proud of it or something) I just don't enjoy these games anymore because of this growing problem, although they have been my favorite games for my entire life. I have been playing CS since I was 4, thats over 20 years of loving a game just for it to be ruined by script kiddies. I hope AI anticheat will be the solution to these cheaters so I can fall back in love with the genre that I love so much.
@@kims4149 I don't know, I feel like with enough data, a good AI anticheat would be hard to fight against. At least, I hope it is haha. Gotta keep up hope somehow right?
@@CaseyRedgrave I am a multiplayer enjoyer myself. Also quite a competitive person when I am good at something. But I do wonder what single player shooters you'd recommend
The finals and more upcoming fps game will be plague no matter what. Is time to quit this genre of gaming where pvp is involved and just play some pve Co op like helldiver 2, l4d2 and lethal company. Those game is a million times more fun playing it with a friend you know
Oh God you lack knowledge. Cheats can be installed on to your mouse, keyboard, and other hardwares, its called "input-cheats", it requires very little modification, and the problem with these kind of hardware cheats is that VAC (who let pretty much anything bypass) and a few other anti-cheats, they dont have proper hardware scans, and mouse and keyboard inputs are pretty much just let through to minimize the input latency from you to the server. And these cheat are even used on the pro-scene. They might not be visible, but you hear sounds telling you how close some is to you. And this kind of cheat is the reason why i have written to all esport companies to stop allowing the players to use their own hardware on stage. They, for instance ESL should provide the mouse and keyboard, this will kill the hardware cheat on stage, and will help identify those you use or at least grow a suspicion to that player that all of a sudden play way worse than in the qualifier.
Why do people cheat? To provoke individuals, or to boost their ego's with their fake mmr? Either or it's essentially just a massive waste of time on the cheaters half, Most people are starting to become pretty numb to cheaters... "oh he's cheating, Yea just report him and run it down mid" And if it's their ego that requires boosting, The only way people are dumb enough to believe you is if they've never seen a decent player play before. You cheat to gain an advantage right, but for what reason? To provoke mediocre responses? Or to have your ego "boosted" and eventually thrown into a pit of despair when everyone who knows you catches on, if they aren't in on it aswell. You're not going to go pro and earn money cheating... You're not going to achieve anything doing it, Besides have people like me write things like this designed to get into your head and to have you break down your own ego internally and face the truth behind it all. That truth being its just a massive waste of time, Why spend thousands of dollars on a gaming pc... Just to never essentially play it. Take Tarkov for example, Alot of people work 40hours pw and they don't have the time to play Tarkov and to stay up with everyone else's progress so they pay for "carries or for actual cheats" People justify their time spent at work, as enough of a reason for them to cheat and catchup... But they never actually play the game? You spend 40 hours at work, To come home and not even play the game you so badly want to be apart of... Instead you'll follow someone around for the last few hours of your day... Or just look at a second screen and go for all the loot. CS2 Is a competitive game there is no reward for playing it, there are no experiences to be had it's a cut and dry 5v5. Nothing to gain or to show off, Going pro requires you to actually be good or to fake it and get banned from ever taking part in the scene again anyway. So what gives? Psychologically there is no logical reasoning behind it what so ever, Its just people burning their lives away because at some point they just "accepted it" "it" being their prudent thoughts about their time spent and what they call "fun" and like i said earlier there are only two real reasons for anyone to cheat... After a few years people are going to be pretty numb to it, So the reactions aren't going to get you that feeling... The only thing left is to fake your ability, And people are starting to clue on... So now they're resorting to faking the cheating by adding RNG to it. Which kinda defeats the purpose of cheating right? You CHEAT to WIN right? or to Provoke responses. So if you're relying on RNG to hide the cheating, Why not just play the game yourself? If it's going so far as to fake being a real person, Why not just be a REAL person??? Or is that too much to handle for people these days? If you're a cheater and you've read this and still want to cheat, Just be aware you've accepted that loser mentality yourself and if it's not the loser mentality but rather just a way to kill time... Then try something that you can actually create memories because when you're in your 50's 60's 70's and you're looking back on your life, What did you actually do? Pretend to be someone? Pffft.
Then there's also those casual who cheats just to mock and called those legit good players "nerds" while they can just spent 10 hours of playing the game with cheats which gets them to the top. Close the game get back to work and school or do something productive then comes back boot up the game with cheat and repeat the cycle again
This video just shows how sad and depressed a human has to be, to spend all this money and time into cheating just get accepted in a game and be called good or crazy for hitting those shots, at the end no one will care about you try to improve by your self spend all this money on hardware and better peripherals instead of going the dirty way, you just a loser if u cheat and all your friends around you cheering u are just fakes that will left u the moment u hit nothing without ur cheats
There is a mistake in the video. You have two types of cheat, internals and externals. Internals are injected into the game, the second is another process an reads memory via DMA or Windows API, or a Kernel driver. For CS2 you are fine using either kernel or just using the Windows API.
i love comments under videos like this. everyone saying they do it because they are bad or something yet they dont realise that most cheaters dont give a single shit about the ranks and they mostly found that what most people seek in their games. a way to make it fun for them
I read on anticheat police departments twitter just now that valorant detected and banned DMA cheats. Man I wish CS had devs that actually gave a damn about their game like riot does..
Cheats are so advanced and undetectable on so many different ways if you new the truth about how many people are cheating it would blow your mind. So trust me Valorant is just as bad. It's not going to get better @@PopsiccDesigns
@@Bolt451 but what has the CS community been asking for? Anticheat, 128 tick, new maps and we get none of that from Valve. 1 billion dollar company and they have to scavenge the community for content, skins, maps and we NEED to play on 3rd party services to have a functional anticheat. It is ridiculous.
Since Helldivers 2 is out I didn't even play ANY PvP game, I had to realize how toxic environment these games. Don't even mention the cheating problems. I think as an almost 30yrs old boomer I can finally say I'm out from this hellhole. Definitely needed this game to break the circle.
2:10 No, they're being injected as DLLs. And if a cheat maker does this for online games, you know they have only 2 brain cells active. Any program can list the DLLs that it has currently loaded, and dump them and sent them to the game developer for research. It's even required for normal operation. This was an ok-ish approach, when only simple anti-cheats were in place. But is definitely reckless when doing that nowadays. It's incredibly simple, simple to detect and well suited for normal game modding, but ffs it's stupid to do that in online games. (Following is apparently shown in later parts of the video:) A much safer approach is to hijack a kernel driver for kernel-level memory access and analyze the game memory through heuristics, then calculate or inject inputs based on the knowledge gained from there. Not just that, it's also completely legal, as opposed to modifying game code, by injecting or hooking to get pointers of game objects. If an insecure kernel driver can be properly weaponized, it also renders kernel level anti-cheats useless, even with Secure Boot enabled. (Which is why Valorant would like you to use Windows 11 with TPM 2.0 enabled, to make it harder for normies to use your cheats without being detected) Without Secure Boot, you can just load your cheat program, before your operating system loads, for example into SMM, if you modify your BIOS, without anyone even noticing it.
2:40 this isn't new, settings like this have existed for almost 10 years, it's what makes a "legit cheater". The new cheats are the ones that work purely off of screen space infornation or run on a seperate system.
I wish we had an episode on how big of a threat DMA is on online events. I think an entire episode on how they’re literally undetectable by even kernel level anticheat could see good views. Its an open secret that online valorant events have been infested with them for a while, even if they cost over a thousand dollars and now you have a technician who can blackmail you
can be countered if the memory output can be regulated however it is likely something that would be that OS devs would do since it makes me feel like it would be a windows feature, then anticheats could make sure that it isn't being bypassed or such and this would avoid dma cheating aswell
Tagged a blatant 5 stack yesterday. They turned on because we were "cheating". Blatant 5 kills through walls. They then turned off until the last rounds, as usual. Funny thing was, we didn't lose a single round when someone on their team didn't spinbot. They were actually silvers. Like, comically bad. But in their mind we must have been cheating to be so much better than them. 17kelo lobby btw
All that stuff does not cost 1000 dollars in Russia or other third world countries like Ukraine or Poland. It is minimum 50 bucks and second PC can be some trash, it only needs to stream the cheat back.
Cheaters are so patethic and let me explain just one thing: when downloading and installing a cheat your computer will be filled with trojan viruses... And they will have access to all your info LMFAO.
What you mean they never update their vanguard in 3 years? They update it EVERY WEEKS, it was probably the hardest Anti-Cheat to get around, if you ever look into the condition in cheating in Valorant you would know that even the best cheat made by the most seasoned software engineers can still be detected in Valorant
They never ever mention anywhere an update on the anticheat first of all. Second your best anticheat to get around can't detect scripts, which they stated they need to manual ban. Secondo of all you have no idea how many cheaters there are in the game because there is no replay system and thats done on purpose.@@kkjkkj2584
All I got from this is that competitive gaming is going to die in a few years. Devs will never fix the issue tbh, I dont even think they can at this point.
5:48 People spending money to buy a second PC, software, and external hardware...spending so much time learning so much about how to cheat without getting caught...and all this, for what? What is the reward? This makes zero sense. Am I not understanding something here? Why do cheaters do this at the cost of the above? If there is a different reason from simply being less intelligent compared to an average human, please someone enlighten me.
There's nothing impressive technically. All it is, is grabbing information that the devs have given to the players and just hidden. An aimbot is one of the most simple programs. set xco to bleh. set yco to bleh. Done. The problem is entirely with devs not having good enforcement and not practicing and data security. There's no good reason for the client PC to see the enemy players in their spawn, but in CS, you have always been able to do this. They could mask it, and remove radar hacks and make wall hacks much less useful, with less than a week's work. It's the same thing as culling unnecessary graphics, they already have the toolset. They choose not to, just like they chose not to build the tools a community moderation team would need and hiring moderators. It's just cheaper not to.
My favorite things about the Valorant community is their inability to realize its cheating problem. Also their refusal to admit anti aim as a cheat. Anytime you bring it up they shrug it off like its some conspiracy cheat. Like atleast the CS community knows about the cheaters and knows Value dowsnt really care. While valo players are over here sucking down “kernal level anti cheat” propaganda not realizing it doesnt actually do anything different that every other “kernal level anticheat” other fps games use but dont tell you about (like cod)
Ive seen crazy teleport +dash hacks today this game is so broken it was in dima stream with renyan on overpass wingman. When playing T going trough monster the cheater teleported outside the map
Makes me laugh when I get called bad for calling our obvious cheats and it will be the people cheating that will say mad cause bad type shit when there garbage at the game
cs2 prolly has most cheaters there is to exist man. 6 straight matches with spinbots. Team is not cooperating too like they won't help me kick the cheater. damn server I have.
I don't like this. Kind of tone-deaf to structure this video in the same way a "How does a keyboard work?" video would be structured. By not touching on why and how cheating ruins games it kinda makes it seem like cheating is just another part of the gaming experience. Failing to mention these things works against the most effective anti-cheat we have; _honor._ The reason cheating is such a big problem in China is not because they have worse anti-cheats, it's because of the public's view on cheating. In general, they see it as "just another part of the game" and competitive players think those that don't cheat are handicapping themselves. They see buying a better cheat the same way we see buying a better mouse. I know it's not really the scope of the video but I would still like to see more effort in preventing such a cheating culture to form, since this video almost feels like it's normalizing it.
Funny thing is i dont think i encountered any cheaters in premier or mm but the first cheater i met was blatant bhop scripting etc. in casual. IN CASUAL
I only play casual for fun , and during csgo people used to get together and vote kick cheaters 9/10 times, now i don’t know what happened people press f2 a lot on blatant spinbotters
The cheating issue seems worse than before. Based on my experience, even with good trust factor, you'd find at least one cheater in premier, comp, even casual (idk about dm and war games tho)
@@Blebeb01yeah people cheat in dm also, never saw one in arms race, but i would recommend to play faceit, 150 games and only 4 cheaters so far and 3 of them are already banned
but youre forgetting all the steps inbetween required to get your viewangle, the enemy's position, convert that position to another viewangle and write to your original viewangle, all requiring you to do complex math and read/write memory along the way
You missed a part that the pixel bots can be run on an arduino making anti cheats useless. Normally an anti cheat can still pick up a pixel bot cause it will see two different inputs for your mouse but if you run in on an arduino the anti cheat will only see one input and arduino are what 5 10 bucks? You don't need a dma and another pc.
the skill necessary to code these untraceable cheats is a form of art in of themselves. cheaters capable of this likely do not get gratification from simply cheating games to win, but rather having a sort of power over the game company, "outplaying" them.
This is very sad, that valve doesnt seem to give a crap about cs2 cheating problem. You encounter cheaters in every other game, even in the lower ranks. It's so frustrating that the game itself gets better with every update but then you get shat on by hackers...
@@yoked391 It works in a legit way, you can adjust smoothness of aim. You control it not really an AI controlling. It helps you direct your shots to enemies, you train it by playing like 5-10 games and it gather pictures in game on what and who to shoot. It is a separate software that doesn't need to be hooked to the main game so its pretty safe for now unless the anti-cheat detects and blacklist some opened tasks. Tried it in alot of games like pubg, fortnite, val, cs2, tf2 and alot of fps games out there...
You can't cheat on a second pc on Valorant anymore. Gamerdoc said it on Twitter, which was the funniest thing I have seen that people actually spend more than thousands on a second PC.
No you don't. Low fov aimbots are very hard to detect. I wish vac would do a better job at it. Only the cheap low end stuff always sounds the same ....
I suspect eventually a company will develop a cheat detection AI that analysis known humans to learn how a normal human behaves without cheats to learn what odd behaviors correlate to cheats and use that analyses reported cheaters. It won't be 100% but is probably the next best thing to a human watching every game back again.
It's already out there. These BS companies just don't want to pay for it. Instead they want to build a in house anti-cheat. Look up for a video called Saving FPS Games - AI Anti-Cheat here on youtube
I just hate how many cheaters exist, the top fortnite players was cheating! Valorant hide how many cheaters actually play! Escape from tarkov and Call of Duty do i have to say it?!
"To valorant with an actual working anticheat" bro im sorry but every single game on the market has acessable cheats kernal based anti cheat or not, ill link three videos shoing exactly how to use them and how acessable they really are. But with kernal anticheat its a ransomwares wet dream for acess like that... be careful out there fello nerds
Thank you. Finally someone who understands how stupid a kernel level anti-cheat is. Like they would give them free access to their house just to play a fucking game.
I'm in my early 40s, i've played FPS games since Doom, i've seen the birth and growth of online gaming. I can say that it has never been easier to cheat than today, and there has never been as many cheaters as today. Over 20% of players are cheating in every FPS multiplayer game, Valorant, Apex, CoD, The Finals, etc... you name it. In CS 2 i think it's probably over 30%, and all the way up to the pro scene. I miss playing FPS games, but the people who still play these games are either cheaters themselves, or having a miserable experience playing against cheaters. And as long as people will keep playing these games, and spending their money in them, the devs will have no reason whatsoever to take the problem seriously.
@@ssarkos5148 obvious cheaters are only the tip of the iceberg. The majority of cheaters, you cannot notice it. Look at any investigation on cheaters communities, the numbers are between 15% and 30% of the entire player base, depending on the games.
I am seeing some weird white rectangles while spraying an enemy (rarely).Is this an update glitch? I dont see anyone informing about this. Not hacker btw
People romanticizing valorants anicheat like tis that much better. it's not. it's just perceived that way so less people cheat. you really don't need the second pc to get around kernel level anti cheat. it certainly helps, but not necessary. now i am not saying cs doesnt have an issue and a weaker anti cheat, but va's isnt that much btter. community moderated anit cheat systems, like overwatch tend to prefrom way better.
Seeing this video makes me miss those ScriptKid videos where he spreads fake cheats that backfire on the user
Saaame. I wish he’d do another one
He died of cancer unfortunately :/
@@gloopingtonfuck that’s sad to hear :(
those were faked
@@Tibzzy im not saying your wrong, but I can’t find any proof that said they were fake.
this proves that cheaters are really only satisfied by ruining other peoples games
The most useful cheat would be one that stopped my teammates from being able to use chat so they don't give the cheaters the reaction they want.
Imagine wasting a literal grand just to cheat on Valorant bro. Mofos are lifeless lol.
yes 😈
@@NyangisKhanwe are rich
@@NyangisKhan stop coping so hard bro. If they got 1k for a val cheat they most likely are doing fine.
Loving how the botted comments are better than the normal ones
They are only getting copied from the command section
It's so much more rewarding to just practice and be good at a competitive game.
So many losers now days...
I have the situational awareness and reflexes of a comatose blind octogenarian.. so i use a radar, but only play SinglePlayerTarkov.. So i’m just murdering bots.. And i still end up getting slapped half the time.. But at least I have a chance..
True pre covid days really many legit player try to practice and get better instead of nowadays everyone want to get shortcut
@@Wirenfeldt1990 you're playing solo, and you use cheats ?? Have fun mate cause in solo games you play the way you want. I play the shit out of the game finish at 100% then I run mods all over to have fun ir experience things in different way. But I would never cheat online this is extremely tragic, and awful to do, because I am experiencing this in apex almost everyday, and it's start to be hard to appreciate online games
Disagreed. Let me explain why.
First of all, you would need to define "more" in "more rewarding", because it's subjective.
It's probably "more" rewarding (as in more quickly) to just cheat for a few wins.
It's probably "more" rewarding (as in fulfilling) to practice, get better, and win by your own skills.
Yet both are true depending on point of view.
Also, humans are easily tricked by instant gratification events (hello Dopamine my old friend). So it's not surprising at all that a lot of people resort to cheating for a quick dopamine hit.
Sure, in the long-run, if you love the game and are dedicated, it will most likely be more fulfilling and rewarding to become actually good and practice, but for a lot of people, the quick and easy way is just as rewarding (I've used this sentence subjectively on purpose ;) )
As someone who has never used Cheats online (or I think maybe once when I was 16 out of curiosity, but it got boring extremely fast, so I did it for 30 min and called it a day), I'm not really into it, but I can definitely understand and see why some people would be.
I think understanding that is a more helpful way to fight against cheating than just saying "you guys are losers".
@@TomGeorgin sorry this youtube comments. not a ENG-102 discussion post. I'll save my energy for that.
If you are aimboting really obvious, It should not be required to detect software on the cheaters PC. The first clip at 0:45, that are 5 shots at once. Why aren't behaviours that are "impossible" not detected on the server side? Sure it would only works vs the extreme but it would be a start.
Absolutely agree, it's fine killing 5 people with one bullet if everyone aligns, but killing 5 people with 5 bullets with an AWP at the same time should automatically trigger a ban, it's literally impossible.
@@bnikolabthe problem is that it possible because of subtick, legit players have had mag dumps as a glitch. It's not easy to account for that cheat because it's just exploiting a flaw in the net code. Even if you had code to actively monitor for this happening, there would be false positives.
@@xzraiderzx308I didn't know about that, so yeah, automatic response is out of question then.
Still, people that mag dump happens to can be put on a list and a human can review the case then.
@@xzraiderzx308 sure, people might have issues with the net code and rapid fire occurring in error - but ALSO getting 5 kills with it is so extremely unlikely, there's a 99.99% chance they're cheating.
Just played with three spin botters last night. Very timed video for fun
Yeah, encountered maybe 6 cheaters total across my 4k+ hours and then I come back to Premier today just to be slammed by full HvH lobbies.
@@zettour.? Like 1% of players get banned for cheating. If you only got 6 in 4k hours I need your luck
@@lankyhanky9772 Nah, just didn't play a lot during free Prime and have good trust factor. Plus, vast majority of cheaters are in Non-Prime. Also doesn't count people who got banned for cheating after or closet cheaters, just guys I can say confidently were cheating either against me or on my team in comp/Premier.
it is like valve providing HvH servers for free and some fresh meats to have fun for those cheaters. Meats are players who dont cheat.@@zettour.
so what is a legit player suppose to do who wants to enjoy counter strike ? i play casually at about 20k . i’m an older play with kids and have been playing cs for 25 years . Casually 5-8 hours a week 3 days per week. it feels like every session out of our 3 pugs we get 1-2 with cheaters . one night was 3 of 3 . Iv been playing for 25 years and know when i’m getting stomped by a better player and when it doesn’t make sense. Especially since i mostly play lurk. Is there a casual community out there who plays cheat free 10 mans
Faceit
Maybe Faceit or Esea depending on your region. Also if youre a dad you could even pay for either of the services
I recommend facit, in 150 matches i had only 4 cheaters, 3 already got banned
Like everyone else said, FaceIt. When Premier mode and the subtick lock on servers were announced people were debating if FaceIt would suffer player loss, well guess Valve helped them by not releasing an actual good AC. I was really trying to play more of Premier but I just can't, every 2 matches I get a rage hacker and the ELO loss is just too punishing. I'm on the same boat as you, been playing for a decade and now only have time to play it more casually, I just don't have the time to spend hours improving my KPM and reaction time (specially with how peekers still have an advantage), so facing hackers is just too difficult now.
Do it the old fashion way get a couple of friends to do 5v5 with in a lan gaming setting
Forsaken : i'll buy 20 of those!!
The war on cheaters won’t be won with regulations.
The war is doomed to be lost because the ONLY way to achieve victory is pretty similar to the ending of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
Cheaters will *ALWAYS* cheat until there is a visceral punishment for doing so.
very very true, as long as there are not propper repercussions and no proper punishement other than getting there accounts banned, its not gonna end... Just like they do it in Korea with league of legends. There you have to connect your league account to your ID and ACTUALLY get prison time or multiple thousands of dollar fines for cheating, which I think is honestly really good.
lol yep
@@TimOver-ch7pwprison seems a bit much fines although flawed should do the job
@@TimOver-ch7pw You are never going to find support for that kind of thing in the west, especially in places like the united states.
The problem is that u see with china is that they have jailing those cheat dev and seller but still the most cheater in the world its because they selling cheat privately. I personally ask those cheater how they didn't get found by police.
I'm considering quitting fps games... It has been my favorite genre and I am really good at shooters, especially games like Valorant, CS and Apex. However, the higher I get in ranked, the more cheaters I encounter. This problem has been getting much worse as of late, and I think it will keep getting worse with the technology available to these scumbags. It's just so damn demoralizing when you know someone is cheating and that's the reason you are losing. It also makes you just blame losing games to cheaters even when it's not entirely obvious, because there are just so many cheaters, many of which are "legit" cheating. (whatever that means, they are proud of it or something)
I just don't enjoy these games anymore because of this growing problem, although they have been my favorite games for my entire life. I have been playing CS since I was 4, thats over 20 years of loving a game just for it to be ruined by script kiddies.
I hope AI anticheat will be the solution to these cheaters so I can fall back in love with the genre that I love so much.
Well tough luck because there's also AI cheats so the fight will continue no matter what
@@kims4149 I don't know, I feel like with enough data, a good AI anticheat would be hard to fight against. At least, I hope it is haha. Gotta keep up hope somehow right?
@@ubesaaaJust play single player fps games
@@CaseyRedgrave I am a multiplayer enjoyer myself. Also quite a competitive person when I am good at something. But I do wonder what single player shooters you'd recommend
The finals and more upcoming fps game will be plague no matter what. Is time to quit this genre of gaming where pvp is involved and just play some pve Co op like helldiver 2, l4d2 and lethal company. Those game is a million times more fun playing it with a friend you know
Oh God you lack knowledge. Cheats can be installed on to your mouse, keyboard, and other hardwares, its called "input-cheats", it requires very little modification, and the problem with these kind of hardware cheats is that VAC (who let pretty much anything bypass) and a few other anti-cheats, they dont have proper hardware scans, and mouse and keyboard inputs are pretty much just let through to minimize the input latency from you to the server. And these cheat are even used on the pro-scene. They might not be visible, but you hear sounds telling you how close some is to you.
And this kind of cheat is the reason why i have written to all esport companies to stop allowing the players to use their own hardware on stage. They, for instance ESL should provide the mouse and keyboard, this will kill the hardware cheat on stage, and will help identify those you use or at least grow a suspicion to that player that all of a sudden play way worse than in the qualifier.
SI 2024 video when
I think the biggest problem with cheating for people is that it’s addicting. They just can’t stop and look for cheats for every game they touch.
Why do people cheat? To provoke individuals, or to boost their ego's with their fake mmr?
Either or it's essentially just a massive waste of time on the cheaters half, Most people are starting to become pretty numb to cheaters...
"oh he's cheating, Yea just report him and run it down mid"
And if it's their ego that requires boosting, The only way people are dumb enough to believe you is if they've never seen a decent player play before.
You cheat to gain an advantage right, but for what reason? To provoke mediocre responses? Or to have your ego "boosted" and eventually thrown into a pit of despair when everyone who knows you catches on, if they aren't in on it aswell.
You're not going to go pro and earn money cheating... You're not going to achieve anything doing it, Besides have people like me write things like this designed to get into your head and to have you break down your own ego internally and face the truth behind it all.
That truth being its just a massive waste of time, Why spend thousands of dollars on a gaming pc... Just to never essentially play it.
Take Tarkov for example, Alot of people work 40hours pw and they don't have the time to play Tarkov and to stay up with everyone else's progress so they pay for "carries or for actual cheats"
People justify their time spent at work, as enough of a reason for them to cheat and catchup... But they never actually play the game? You spend 40 hours at work, To come home and not even play the game you so badly want to be apart of... Instead you'll follow someone around for the last few hours of your day... Or just look at a second screen and go for all the loot.
CS2 Is a competitive game there is no reward for playing it, there are no experiences to be had it's a cut and dry 5v5. Nothing to gain or to show off, Going pro requires you to actually be good or to fake it and get banned from ever taking part in the scene again anyway.
So what gives? Psychologically there is no logical reasoning behind it what so ever, Its just people burning their lives away because at some point they just "accepted it" "it" being their prudent thoughts about their time spent and what they call "fun" and like i said earlier there are only two real reasons for anyone to cheat... After a few years people are going to be pretty numb to it, So the reactions aren't going to get you that feeling... The only thing left is to fake your ability, And people are starting to clue on... So now they're resorting to faking the cheating by adding RNG to it.
Which kinda defeats the purpose of cheating right? You CHEAT to WIN right? or to Provoke responses. So if you're relying on RNG to hide the cheating, Why not just play the game yourself?
If it's going so far as to fake being a real person, Why not just be a REAL person??? Or is that too much to handle for people these days?
If you're a cheater and you've read this and still want to cheat, Just be aware you've accepted that loser mentality yourself and if it's not the loser mentality but rather just a way to kill time... Then try something that you can actually create memories because when you're in your 50's 60's 70's and you're looking back on your life, What did you actually do? Pretend to be someone? Pffft.
Then there's also those casual who cheats just to mock and called those legit good players "nerds" while they can just spent 10 hours of playing the game with cheats which gets them to the top.
Close the game get back to work and school or do something productive then comes back boot up the game with cheat and repeat the cycle again
@guymontag5084 But you get penalized, I just get everyone to run it down mid and get the game over in 5mins
This video just shows how sad and depressed a human has to be, to spend all this money and time into cheating just get accepted in a game and be called good or crazy for hitting those shots, at the end no one will care about you try to improve by your self spend all this money on hardware and better peripherals instead of going the dirty way, you just a loser if u cheat and all your friends around you cheering u are just fakes that will left u the moment u hit nothing without ur cheats
I was really surprised to see a PUBG Mobile clip there. Not because there are hackers there but because of the game's popularity in NA
There is a mistake in the video. You have two types of cheat, internals and externals. Internals are injected into the game, the second is another process an reads memory via DMA or Windows API, or a Kernel driver. For CS2 you are fine using either kernel or just using the Windows API.
"wanna how it feels to cheat?"
No, cuz im not a piece of shit human being that sucks at playing video games
Cazz mentioned on this channel? god damn he's gotten big
i love comments under videos like this. everyone saying they do it because they are bad or something yet they dont realise that most cheaters dont give a single shit about the ranks and they mostly found that what most people seek in their games. a way to make it fun for them
I read on anticheat police departments twitter just now that valorant detected and banned DMA cheats. Man I wish CS had devs that actually gave a damn about their game like riot does..
Riot giving a shit about there games ? HAHAHAHA good joke XD
Hell of a lot more the valve. You joking?
Riot does not give a damn about us we've been asking for a reply system for years.
Cheats are so advanced and undetectable on so many different ways if you new the truth about how many people are cheating it would blow your mind. So trust me Valorant is just as bad. It's not going to get better @@PopsiccDesigns
@@Bolt451 but what has the CS community been asking for? Anticheat, 128 tick, new maps and we get none of that from Valve. 1 billion dollar company and they have to scavenge the community for content, skins, maps and we NEED to play on 3rd party services to have a functional anticheat. It is ridiculous.
Wtf, the rabbit hole goes so fuckin deep that people will use DMA
Since Helldivers 2 is out I didn't even play ANY PvP game, I had to realize how toxic environment these games. Don't even mention the cheating problems. I think as an almost 30yrs old boomer I can finally say I'm out from this hellhole. Definitely needed this game to break the circle.
lethal company with friends and mods is a million times better
2:10 No, they're being injected as DLLs.
And if a cheat maker does this for online games, you know they have only 2 brain cells active.
Any program can list the DLLs that it has currently loaded,
and dump them and sent them to the game developer for research.
It's even required for normal operation.
This was an ok-ish approach, when only simple anti-cheats were in place.
But is definitely reckless when doing that nowadays.
It's incredibly simple, simple to detect and well suited for normal game modding,
but ffs it's stupid to do that in online games.
(Following is apparently shown in later parts of the video:)
A much safer approach is to hijack a kernel driver for kernel-level memory access
and analyze the game memory through heuristics,
then calculate or inject inputs based on the knowledge gained from there.
Not just that, it's also completely legal,
as opposed to modifying game code, by injecting or hooking
to get pointers of game objects.
If an insecure kernel driver can be properly weaponized,
it also renders kernel level anti-cheats useless, even with Secure Boot enabled.
(Which is why Valorant would like you to use Windows 11 with TPM 2.0 enabled,
to make it harder for normies to use your cheats without being detected)
Without Secure Boot, you can just load your cheat program, before your operating system loads,
for example into SMM, if you modify your BIOS, without anyone even noticing it.
2:40 this isn't new, settings like this have existed for almost 10 years, it's what makes a "legit cheater". The new cheats are the ones that work purely off of screen space infornation or run on a seperate system.
Wait at first the video was educational on how it works then towards the end you started teaching us HOW to do it lmaoooo
I wish we had an episode on how big of a threat DMA is on online events. I think an entire episode on how they’re literally undetectable by even kernel level anticheat could see good views. Its an open secret that online valorant events have been infested with them for a while, even if they cost over a thousand dollars and now you have a technician who can blackmail you
can be countered if the memory output can be regulated however it is likely something that would be that OS devs would do since it makes me feel like it would be a windows feature, then anticheats could make sure that it isn't being bypassed or such and this would avoid dma cheating aswell
@@forgotenguy-fi2mzbruh 💀
Cheats should be added to the Computer Misuse Act 1990 honestly.
I really don't wanna play Valo, but Valve forces me to 😩
I stopped playing competitive games altogether . so many losers out there so single player game is the only way out.
aim? overwatch? community maps? maps?
I remember that theScore esports interviewed the PH streamer Mikadaime claiming that she didn't use aimbot but obviously she does. 🤣
Tagged a blatant 5 stack yesterday. They turned on because we were "cheating". Blatant 5 kills through walls.
They then turned off until the last rounds, as usual. Funny thing was, we didn't lose a single round when someone on their team didn't spinbot. They were actually silvers. Like, comically bad.
But in their mind we must have been cheating to be so much better than them.
17kelo lobby btw
Cheaters should face prison time.
no you should "faceit"😂
All that stuff does not cost 1000 dollars in Russia or other third world countries like Ukraine or Poland. It is minimum 50 bucks and second PC can be some trash, it only needs to stream the cheat back.
Cheaters are so patethic and let me explain just one thing: when downloading and installing a cheat your computer will be filled with trojan viruses... And they will have access to all your info LMFAO.
Cheaters always win, cheaters never die .. Well done ~ 😎
My laptop would explode if I tried to run CS:GO on it.
mine would explode if i even thought about installing cs
@@vladledracwhat is your laptop running on I play on a 8 year old i5 and I can push 60fps
Valorant's anticheat is so good that it doesnt need any update in 3 years and to prove that they never added a replay system. 💪
What you mean they never update their vanguard in 3 years? They update it EVERY WEEKS, it was probably the hardest Anti-Cheat to get around, if you ever look into the condition in cheating in Valorant you would know that even the best cheat made by the most seasoned software engineers can still be detected in Valorant
They never ever mention anywhere an update on the anticheat first of all. Second your best anticheat to get around can't detect scripts, which they stated they need to manual ban. Secondo of all you have no idea how many cheaters there are in the game because there is no replay system and thats done on purpose.@@kkjkkj2584
Nice tutorial 😂
I miss the days when games were about doing whatever and having fun. Cheats didn't matter back then cuz no one cared
All I got from this is that competitive gaming is going to die in a few years.
Devs will never fix the issue tbh, I dont even think they can at this point.
5:48 People spending money to buy a second PC, software, and external hardware...spending so much time learning so much about how to cheat without getting caught...and all this, for what? What is the reward? This makes zero sense. Am I not understanding something here? Why do cheaters do this at the cost of the above? If there is a different reason from simply being less intelligent compared to an average human, please someone enlighten me.
usually to win things like Fortnite cash cups, where you don't have to be on lan or screen share to get the money
I despise cheaters in pvp games but i am very impressed by the technical side of cheats.
There's nothing impressive technically. All it is, is grabbing information that the devs have given to the players and just hidden. An aimbot is one of the most simple programs. set xco to bleh. set yco to bleh. Done. The problem is entirely with devs not having good enforcement and not practicing and data security. There's no good reason for the client PC to see the enemy players in their spawn, but in CS, you have always been able to do this. They could mask it, and remove radar hacks and make wall hacks much less useful, with less than a week's work. It's the same thing as culling unnecessary graphics, they already have the toolset. They choose not to, just like they chose not to build the tools a community moderation team would need and hiring moderators. It's just cheaper not to.
TenZ out there taking notes.
My favorite things about the Valorant community is their inability to realize its cheating problem. Also their refusal to admit anti aim as a cheat. Anytime you bring it up they shrug it off like its some conspiracy cheat.
Like atleast the CS community knows about the cheaters and knows Value dowsnt really care. While valo players are over here sucking down “kernal level anti cheat” propaganda not realizing it doesnt actually do anything different that every other “kernal level anticheat” other fps games use but dont tell you about (like cod)
Thanks, coding a client right now!
Ive seen crazy teleport +dash hacks today this game is so broken it was in dima stream with renyan on overpass wingman. When playing T going trough monster the cheater teleported outside the map
Makes me laugh when I get called bad for calling our obvious cheats and it will be the people cheating that will say mad cause bad type shit when there garbage at the game
ran across a cheater duo today in 19k elo cs2 and many more before that, none of them are banned despite obvious spinbots and magic bullets
I hope that the day will come where cheat developing become imprisonable.
The only time I used a cheat in my life was with "it is a good day to die" :)
More delving into the cheat industry, please. The more pressure on Valve the better!
Audio is a bit low on this video compared to your other videos (specifically the false ban video thats linked here)
cs2 prolly has most cheaters there is to exist man. 6 straight matches with spinbots. Team is not cooperating too like they won't help me kick the cheater. damn server I have.
Score ESports doesn't cover mobile gaming right?
i've been playing cs from 2007 . i played all of them and had thousand and thousand of hours. sadly i quit this game because of cheaters.
Me when i do matrix operations on my screen
Don't even need a 2nd PC, you can run a Virtual Machine to run the cheats.
I don't like this. Kind of tone-deaf to structure this video in the same way a "How does a keyboard work?" video would be structured. By not touching on why and how cheating ruins games it kinda makes it seem like cheating is just another part of the gaming experience. Failing to mention these things works against the most effective anti-cheat we have; _honor._
The reason cheating is such a big problem in China is not because they have worse anti-cheats, it's because of the public's view on cheating. In general, they see it as "just another part of the game" and competitive players think those that don't cheat are handicapping themselves. They see buying a better cheat the same way we see buying a better mouse.
I know it's not really the scope of the video but I would still like to see more effort in preventing such a cheating culture to form, since this video almost feels like it's normalizing it.
Cheating is apart of the normal gaming experience. If that was your interpretation of the video then good job. You just learned something.
You really want them to explain why cheating ruins the game?
Funny thing is i dont think i encountered any cheaters in premier or mm but the first cheater i met was blatant bhop scripting etc. in casual. IN CASUAL
I only play casual for fun , and during csgo people used to get together and vote kick cheaters 9/10 times, now i don’t know what happened people press f2 a lot on blatant spinbotters
The cheating issue seems worse than before. Based on my experience, even with good trust factor, you'd find at least one cheater in premier, comp, even casual (idk about dm and war games tho)
@@Blebeb01yeah people cheat in dm also, never saw one in arms race, but i would recommend to play faceit, 150 games and only 4 cheaters so far and 3 of them are already banned
Hardware ban?
IP ban?
An decent anti cheat?
Nah, add another case.
take your view angle, find the angle you need to change to in order to aim at the enemy and shoot. fairly simple
but youre forgetting all the steps inbetween required to get your viewangle, the enemy's position, convert that position to another viewangle and write to your original viewangle, all requiring you to do complex math and read/write memory along the way
You missed a part that the pixel bots can be run on an arduino making anti cheats useless. Normally an anti cheat can still pick up a pixel bot cause it will see two different inputs for your mouse but if you run in on an arduino the anti cheat will only see one input and arduino are what 5 10 bucks? You don't need a dma and another pc.
jesus christ. imagine going this far out of your way instead of playing and getting good. kids just want instant gratification these days
the skill necessary to code these untraceable cheats is a form of art in of themselves. cheaters capable of this likely do not get gratification from simply cheating games to win, but rather having a sort of power over the game company, "outplaying" them.
This video has given me the confidence to start cheating. Thanks theScore esports!
quick summary: it aims the bot.
Just fucking talk to us about it valve. Say SOMETHING
This is very sad, that valve doesnt seem to give a crap about cs2 cheating problem. You encounter cheaters in every other game, even in the lower ranks. It's so frustrating that the game itself gets better with every update but then you get shat on by hackers...
AI aimbot is the future
nah, its actuallty the best thing, making an AI appear as a top player, top players can be killed, cant kill someone who doesnt miss
@@yoked391 It works in a legit way, you can adjust smoothness of aim. You control it not really an AI controlling. It helps you direct your shots to enemies, you train it by playing like 5-10 games and it gather pictures in game on what and who to shoot. It is a separate software that doesn't need to be hooked to the main game so its pretty safe for now unless the anti-cheat detects and blacklist some opened tasks. Tried it in alot of games like pubg, fortnite, val, cs2, tf2 and alot of fps games out there...
convolkJT cheating in every game, still cheating in valorant and cs2, still playing
Imagine what you have to do to just cheat in Valve Games or you just play the Game and get better, and decide to cheat 🤡
Did you really link to cazz, a guy giving coding tutorials how to code cheats 💀
I LOVE YOU DAVID DMA
What still continues to baffle me is that people are willing to waste their money like that...
You can't cheat on a second pc on Valorant anymore. Gamerdoc said it on Twitter, which was the funniest thing I have seen that people actually spend more than thousands on a second PC.
yes you can
@@dotnet9830 no u cant
Just played 4 games of CS2, 2 of them had pretty blatant wallhackers. It's just not fun at all.
"Cheat like it's their f**king day job"
Like many streamers do?
Lets not forge those undetectable arduino Uno cheats
dma + rsp pi + emulated mouse =
i need a bot that aims irl
No you don't. Low fov aimbots are very hard to detect. I wish vac would do a better job at it. Only the cheap low end stuff always sounds the same ....
No one talks about the Baldo's Giga Cat discord pict ?
Thanks G
who is this fault ? yes VALVE
The only time where cheat is allowed is in hacker vs hacker match
@ the moment it's hell to play CS out of every 2 games there are cheaters
2:00 - so basically it's just a strong aim assist
I suspect eventually a company will develop a cheat detection AI that analysis known humans to learn how a normal human behaves without cheats to learn what odd behaviors correlate to cheats and use that analyses reported cheaters. It won't be 100% but is probably the next best thing to a human watching every game back again.
It's already out there. These BS companies just don't want to pay for it. Instead they want to build a in house anti-cheat.
Look up for a video called Saving FPS Games - AI Anti-Cheat here on youtube
Single PC Dma???
Some misconceptions and wrong terms in there at points, but over all good video.
You can tell a cheater right away because they have insane aim and no game sense at all...
he is wrong about DMA ,they are a lot more common and a lot more cheaper than you think
SuperNova is Crazy
I just hate how many cheaters exist, the top fortnite players was cheating! Valorant hide how many cheaters actually play! Escape from tarkov and Call of Duty do i have to say it?!
"To valorant with an actual working anticheat" bro im sorry but every single game on the market has acessable cheats kernal based anti cheat or not, ill link three videos shoing exactly how to use them and how acessable they really are.
But with kernal anticheat its a ransomwares wet dream for acess like that... be careful out there fello nerds
Thank you. Finally someone who understands how stupid a kernel level anti-cheat is. Like they would give them free access to their house just to play a fucking game.
Cheating in CS is massive, while in Valorant most players have not encountered a single cheater in their whole playtime.
Warzone explained
I'm in my early 40s, i've played FPS games since Doom, i've seen the birth and growth of online gaming. I can say that it has never been easier to cheat than today, and there has never been as many cheaters as today. Over 20% of players are cheating in every FPS multiplayer game, Valorant, Apex, CoD, The Finals, etc... you name it. In CS 2 i think it's probably over 30%, and all the way up to the pro scene. I miss playing FPS games, but the people who still play these games are either cheaters themselves, or having a miserable experience playing against cheaters. And as long as people will keep playing these games, and spending their money in them, the devs will have no reason whatsoever to take the problem seriously.
Its not nearly that high
@@ssarkos5148 obvious cheaters are only the tip of the iceberg. The majority of cheaters, you cannot notice it. Look at any investigation on cheaters communities, the numbers are between 15% and 30% of the entire player base, depending on the games.
@@letmefeelthevibes In some games maybe but in the majority of games its below 5%
I am seeing some weird white rectangles while spraying an enemy (rarely).Is this an update glitch? I dont see anyone informing about this. Not hacker btw
People romanticizing valorants anicheat like tis that much better. it's not. it's just perceived that way so less people cheat. you really don't need the second pc to get around kernel level anti cheat. it certainly helps, but not necessary. now i am not saying cs doesnt have an issue and a weaker anti cheat, but va's isnt that much btter. community moderated anit cheat systems, like overwatch tend to prefrom way better.