I love these fish!! I have several. What is the bottom of your tank? It's gorgeous! I have white fine sand in mine and would love to add that..... It would just add a little color. Thank you for your video's!! I love them.
They are currently in a 10 Gallon tank until I get a new hood for my 20 long. Temp is around 72 and I have a quiet flow 20 filter. I will be posting a video once I get my 20 gallon setup. Is there something I'm missing? Not enough water flow? One just died yesterday and I would like to find out why ASAP so the others don't follow the same fate. Tank mates are two other darters a few creek chubs and what I believe is an emerald shiner
+Beta3600 10 gallon is fine for now and they'll definitely appreciate the length of a 20 long. Temp is fine and mine will tolerate up to 76-77 during the summer. When you setup your new tank I'd recommend either modifying your HoB for increased flow or using a powerhead-sponge filter (what I use) for good flow as well. Sometimes Darters just drop though, they're a very fragile group of fish and they can die from the most petty things. I just lost a Variegate last week for no apparent reason that'd been fine until the day before. I try to get past their fragileness by doing 30-40% water changes every 2-4 days in all of my tanks with Darters in them, although 25-50%s weekly will work in most cases, I just keep their water as pristine as possible. Creek Chubs are fine when small but as they get bigger watch out for predation on Darters, Creek Chubs are pretty much just warm water trout when fully grown lol. Hope I could help a bit, keep me updated on their health and I'll see if I can continue to help as well.
Actually my personal best chub fishing was 16" so they can get even larger than a foot! For 6-10" fish a 30 long or 55 could work but 12-16" fish and really any adult chubs would be more comfortable in a 75 gallon or something with at least a 48"x18" footprint.
Thanks! Oh and what kind of darters do you have around you? The individual species could determine how your stream tank should look, for example Greensides so better in fast riffle with algae carpets while Johnnys do better in slack water pool and marches. Either way I'm sure your tank will turn out awesome!
How well did these little guys do in your tank? They live in the stream down the road from me and that stream doesn't have much sand. It's mostly stone and dirt. Also, they live in moving water. Did they fair well to living in the calm aquarium?
I just got farm-raised juvenile rainbow darters (about 2" long). My research says to feed them freeze-dried bloodworms, but I'm not convinced that is the best choice. Any suggestions you can give would be great! Thank you!
+Beta3600 Well Darters are benthic so they'll naturally relate to the bottom although they tend to hop around quite a bit. Tank details would help. Size, tankmates, water params, temp, pH, feeding, water flow, etc?
There are darters in my area they look cool but not really that coloration of a rainbow darter is more like a bright brow. Ps the darter in my area is the tessellated darter) nice video.
Hi, Jeffrey. Sorry for the late reply, but anyway in this video there are Emerald Shiners and a Bluntnose Minnow in with the Darters, as far as Cyprinids go. Emerald Shiners are very delicate fish but they're beautiful fish and I'd recommend them for more experienced hobbyists. Bluntnose Minnows are a more hardy species that go well in about any temperature or coolwater community tank. As for Smallmouth Bass, I've never kept them but in general they're a very aggressive species that would need a very large tank in the long run.
Hi, terry, sorry for the late reply. I collect all of my Darters locally, in western Pennsylvania. Missouri is a GREAT area for native species, very diverse, you should be able to find a variety of species in your back yard!
Everything Fish I also caught my 5 and a white sucker in a creek behind my house and they live with a baby crayfish which I'm pretty sure got eaten by said sucker
I had 5 darters (3 rainbows [unknown gender], and 2 spotted [gender also unknown]) and for now ours is just in a 30 gallon tank (I have to measure it out when I go to my dads tonight) but I was wondering how you managed to set up a flow from one side of the tank to the other because my dad and I have been trying to think of ways to at least put a little bit of current in ours and his ideas are way overboard lol
Hi, Casper! Sorry for the late reply. Anyway, I use a powerhead to generate flow in my stream tank. The current goes across the tank at the top then swirls down once it hits the side and flows back to the other side at the bottom. The Cobalt MJ powerheads are what I use and are a great option if you're looking to do something similar.
TY Mike.. helping a friend start his native tank here in VA and the temp info helps alot
No problem, glad I could help! Let me know if you need info on any other natives. My name is Sean BTW :)
Люблю этих рыбок, красивые!
I love these fish!! I have several. What is the bottom of your tank? It's gorgeous! I have white fine sand in mine and would love to add that..... It would just add a little color. Thank you for your video's!! I love them.
Nice video and very informative.
Nice video
Nice one. Those are cool looking fish
Thanks, Mike!
Great video ! Very informative.
Thank you very much!
Mint
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means awesome and good lol
Oh, sorry I didn't know what that meant :). Thanks!
+Everything Fish You didn't know what that "mint" teehee. Great video by the way, really wanting to start a new aquarium with darters and madtoms.
Great vid! I've just found these guys in my local creek...lovely fish. :)
did you made a video about breeding them?
I tend to find these in trout streams up in the blueridge mountains in 3 -4 deep pools with low current, I also find em under rocks
They are currently in a 10 Gallon tank until I get a new hood for my 20 long. Temp is around 72 and I have a quiet flow 20 filter. I will be posting a video once I get my 20 gallon setup. Is there something I'm missing? Not enough water flow? One just died yesterday and I would like to find out why ASAP so the others don't follow the same fate. Tank mates are two other darters a few creek chubs and what I believe is an emerald shiner
+Beta3600 10 gallon is fine for now and they'll definitely appreciate the length of a 20 long. Temp is fine and mine will tolerate up to 76-77 during the summer. When you setup your new tank I'd recommend either modifying your HoB for increased flow or using a powerhead-sponge filter (what I use) for good flow as well. Sometimes Darters just drop though, they're a very fragile group of fish and they can die from the most petty things. I just lost a Variegate last week for no apparent reason that'd been fine until the day before. I try to get past their fragileness by doing 30-40% water changes every 2-4 days in all of my tanks with Darters in them, although 25-50%s weekly will work in most cases, I just keep their water as pristine as possible. Creek Chubs are fine when small but as they get bigger watch out for predation on Darters, Creek Chubs are pretty much just warm water trout when fully grown lol. Hope I could help a bit, keep me updated on their health and I'll see if I can continue to help as well.
+Everything Fish thanks for the help! I will try the water changes and I will get a power head as soon as I can.
+Beta3600 Also what size would you recommend for a full grown chub? I realize they can get up to a foot.
Actually my personal best chub fishing was 16" so they can get even larger than a foot! For 6-10" fish a 30 long or 55 could work but 12-16" fish and really any adult chubs would be more comfortable in a 75 gallon or something with at least a 48"x18" footprint.
thanks
Awesome and informational vid! Cant wait till next spring/summer to go collect these guys and re-scape my stream tank :)
Thanks! Oh and what kind of darters do you have around you? The individual species could determine how your stream tank should look, for example Greensides so better in fast riffle with algae carpets while Johnnys do better in slack water pool and marches. Either way I'm sure your tank will turn out awesome!
I have Least, Crystal, Gilt, Rainbow, River, Johnny, Slenderhead and Fantail.
And Banded, which I really like :)
How well did these little guys do in your tank? They live in the stream down the road from me and that stream doesn't have much sand. It's mostly stone and dirt.
Also, they live in moving water. Did they fair well to living in the calm aquarium?
Very cool video. Thanks for the info. Would love to find some locally this spring
I just got farm-raised juvenile rainbow darters (about 2" long). My research says to feed them freeze-dried bloodworms, but I'm not convinced that is the best choice. Any suggestions you can give would be great! Thank you!
Thats a cool fish man. love it
Here in nv we don't have any cool interesting fish except for the pup fish
mine just sits on the bottom and doesn't move. its fins are all down and I know that's a sign of stress. any advice?
+Beta3600 Well Darters are benthic so they'll naturally relate to the bottom although they tend to hop around quite a bit. Tank details would help. Size, tankmates, water params, temp, pH, feeding, water flow, etc?
I like these :) I wish we had cooler fish over here in Washington.
cadens fish and herps Thanks! I'm sure you guys have some kind of cool natives out there.
We have Olympic mud minnows sticklebacks and sculpins
cadens fish and herps Those are all pretty awesome fish, especially Sculpins!
The mud minnow is endemic and is by far the coolest fish here. We also have an endemic garter snake that has some really nice blue
What should I feed them that I can buy or get
Bloodworms, blackworms, brine shrimp, and mysis shrimp are all good options for these guys. Frozen or live.
There are darters in my area they look cool but not really that coloration of a rainbow darter is more like a bright brow. Ps the darter in my area is the tessellated darter) nice video.
Are the minnows in there black strip minnows? If so can you tell me some info on them and smallmouth bass? Thanks
Hi, Jeffrey. Sorry for the late reply, but anyway in this video there are Emerald Shiners and a Bluntnose Minnow in with the Darters, as far as Cyprinids go. Emerald Shiners are very delicate fish but they're beautiful fish and I'd recommend them for more experienced hobbyists. Bluntnose Minnows are a more hardy species that go well in about any temperature or coolwater community tank. As for Smallmouth Bass, I've never kept them but in general they're a very aggressive species that would need a very large tank in the long run.
Where did you get your Darters? Did you catch them or buy them? I live in Kansas City, Mo how can I find some Darters.
Hi, terry, sorry for the late reply. I collect all of my Darters locally, in western Pennsylvania. Missouri is a GREAT area for native species, very diverse, you should be able to find a variety of species in your back yard!
Everything Fish I also caught my 5 and a white sucker in a creek behind my house and they live with a baby crayfish which I'm pretty sure got eaten by said sucker
Would tookany creek work in Philadelphia have them
I had 5 darters (3 rainbows [unknown gender], and 2 spotted [gender also unknown]) and for now ours is just in a 30 gallon tank (I have to measure it out when I go to my dads tonight) but I was wondering how you managed to set up a flow from one side of the tank to the other because my dad and I have been trying to think of ways to at least put a little bit of current in ours and his ideas are way overboard lol
Hi, Casper! Sorry for the late reply. Anyway, I use a powerhead to generate flow in my stream tank. The current goes across the tank at the top then swirls down once it hits the side and flows back to the other side at the bottom. The Cobalt MJ powerheads are what I use and are a great option if you're looking to do something similar.
wow its a pretty lookin darter if you add a oscar fish its even prettier😊😊😵😨
Thanks, Harold! Hmm, I don't think that an Oscar would go too well with these guys haha.