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  • @RomanPer
    @RomanPer 18 дней назад +46

    The proper logic for determining of 7/8 is this - R7C8 is either green (9) or yellow (8). The blue line in box 6 must have a 1 (since there are 2 4s looking at it) and not have 6, so it's either 125 or 135. R5C7 can't be a 1. If R7C8 is 8 (yellow), the blue line in box 6 is 125 and R5C7 becomes 3, forcing red to also be 8. Therefore, R7C8 must be 9 and then go from there

    • @peaoui165
      @peaoui165 18 дней назад +2

      "R5C6 can't be a 1" - citation needed!

    • @raysouth1952
      @raysouth1952 18 дней назад

      If r7c8 is 8 then it is yellow. But this forces r5c7 to be 3 which forces red (in box 5) to be 8!

    • @shawnmichajluk2044
      @shawnmichajluk2044 18 дней назад +1

      ​@@peaoui165it might be R5C7, not R5C6. The previous statement says 1 is on the blue line, thus 1 cannot be in R5C7.

    • @JohnLadan
      @JohnLadan 18 дней назад +2

      Thank you! That's exactly where I got stuck. And yes R5C6 is a typo it's R5C7 that can't be 1 at that point.

    • @RomanPer
      @RomanPer 18 дней назад +2

      @@peaoui165 sorry, meant R5C7, will correct. Thank you for noticing

  • @AndrewMikhno
    @AndrewMikhno 18 дней назад +32

    21:17 How its possible R9C7 to be red? Why it is a candidate? R89C8 is candidates

  • @pairot01
    @pairot01 18 дней назад +40

    You need to be very very careful when colouring, in this case the orange 89 pair in box 9 was not useful and confused Mark into a wrong deduction. If anyone knows the way forward please elaborate, the mistake happens at 21:40

    • @pairot01
      @pairot01 18 дней назад +1

      With bifurcation (trying out the WRONG path, to see what conflict arises) I ended up with a 3 adjacent to a 7 on the bottom right leg of the X.

    • @default8522
      @default8522 18 дней назад +1

      Assuming you've got most cells pencil marked by this point -
      Once you've got your possible red and yellows in place - check R7C8, and see if placing a number causes any issues with the digits on the green line that spans Box 2>Box 6.

    • @timlewis2168
      @timlewis2168 18 дней назад +5

      From 21:40, if you explore the option of R7C8 being an 8, it forces R7C2 (red) to be "7" and the blue equal-sums line in box 6 to be "1-2-5" (since 1-3-4 isn't possible by the two 4s already in rows 5 and 6), this then leaves R5C7 to be "3" as the only option remaining. This "3" on a German Whispers green line pushes R4C6 (red) to be "8". Since R7C2 and R4C6 are both marked red (correctly by Mark), we have reached a contraction as red cannot be both "7" and "8". Therefore R7C8 must instead be "9". This doesn't immediately determine the colouring at the bottoms of columns 5 and 8 but there is more colouring to be completed in the rest of the grid. The "9" forces "1-3-5" on to Box 6's blue equal-sums line, leaving yellow ("7" or "8") to only be possible in the top row of Box 6 and thus also in R6C2 in Box 4 (as it can't be on the whisper since this is low in R6C3). The "1-3-5" in Box 6 also forces the "2" onto R5C7. Mark hasn't yet resolved the pencil marking in Box 8, which is now "1-3-5" down the left side and "2" and "4" on the right. The "2"s positioning in Box 6 and Box 8 forces R4C5 to be a "2". and, in turn, R6C3 to also be "2". This then means R8C3 is now a "3" separating an 8 and 9 (on the whisper) at the bottom of column 3 thus giving you that "7" is red and "8" is yellow. I'm allowing Mark a wine click given it's Christmas Eve!

    • @TakanashiYuuji
      @TakanashiYuuji 18 дней назад +1

      I got a lot more of the puzzle done by colouring cells 'high' (6789) and 'low' (12345) before resolving the 7 and 8s. I used bifurcation to get the 6s on the blue lines. I finally used colouring and bifurcation again to resolve the 7 and 8s.

    • @katiekawaii
      @katiekawaii 16 дней назад

      ​@@timlewis2168 Thank you!

  • @isidornimages
    @isidornimages 18 дней назад +6

    I got stuck on the 7-8's and came to the video for a solution. Was disappointing to see Mark solving from what I understand was a lucky guess. Surely the 8 below the 7 in box 9 could also have been red? Amyway, happy holidays to all!

  • @OddLittleShoppingBag
    @OddLittleShoppingBag 18 дней назад +6

    Merry Christmas, Mark! Thanks for all you do.

  • @Paolo_De_Leva
    @Paolo_De_Leva 18 дней назад +23

    *_"Red_*_ is definitely in one of those two [r9c7 or r8c8]..."_ (Mark @21:16)
    Incorrect. It is either in *r8c8* or *r9c8.*
    _"... so if it cannot go there [r9c7], it must be this [r8c8]"_ (Mark @21:38)
    Correct conclusion reached with incorrect logic. You did not rule out *r9c8❗*
    You missed the most enjoiable part of the solve, which was the final disambiguation for the *7-8* pair.

  • @praematura
    @praematura 18 дней назад +1

    I did quite well up until near the end, got stuck and bifurcated on a hunch which actually worked out. 😛 Mark's coloring of the high would have shown me what I needed, but still managed to finish in 19:38 (conflict checker off), many thanks to James for a very nice puzzle!

  • @chocolateboy300
    @chocolateboy300 18 дней назад +1

    I finished in 22:30 minutes. This was a really clean puzzle that perfectly executed region sum rules. That was one of the most fun kind that I have done. I think my favorite part was seeing that the region sum in box 6 couldn't be 8 with a 125 set as this causes a cascade that would force both r9c3 and r9c8 to both be the same number. That was so fun to spot in my head. This has to be one of my favorites. As always, it feels good to beat Mark's time. Great Puzzle!

    • @MariaVlasiou
      @MariaVlasiou 17 дней назад

      I couldn't tell where r2c4 belongs to

  • @emilywilliams3237
    @emilywilliams3237 18 дней назад +1

    Christmas finery, Christmas in the puzzle, all very fun. I don't have time to try this puzzle now, but will definitely do so soon. This was an interesting puzzle; I like the interactions between the blue and green lines. Thanks for the video, Mark, and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours!

  • @Mystic998
    @Mystic998 18 дней назад +8

    Pretty sure red could also be at r9c8.

    • @DitDede
      @DitDede 18 дней назад +3

      came looking for this kind of comment

  • @Kirbyfan87827
    @Kirbyfan87827 18 дней назад

    Finished in 25:56. Great puzzle!

  • @scarletmanuka6170
    @scarletmanuka6170 10 дней назад

    You could identify purple as early as 7:45 when the 89 pair is established in box 9, by asking where purple goes in box 6. Either it's on a three-cell region sum line with a single digit sum and must therefore be 6, or it's in r7c8 and can't be 7, 8, or 9, so again it has to be a 6.

  • @MariaVlasiou
    @MariaVlasiou 17 дней назад +12

    The rules in the green box in the video make sense. Those in the app do not. Box 7 is then confusing.
    Edit: then, I couldn't sort the blue lines in box 2. Was r2c4 part of a bendy line that went into boxes 4, 5, 2 or part of a different line that went into boxes 3 and 2? And how was that consistent with box 7... ? In short, what the blue lines did and how they were divided was not obvious to me.

    • @MedusaMrigesh
      @MedusaMrigesh 17 дней назад

      Same for me.

    • @shadowpenguin3482
      @shadowpenguin3482 17 дней назад

      There is another Definition of the Blue line which is slightly harder to understand but avoids disambiguity
      „box borders divide blue lines into segments of the same sum“

    • @nomore6167
      @nomore6167 17 дней назад +2

      @@shadowpenguin3482 "box borders divide blue lines into segments of the same sum" - Unfortunately, even that rule does not disambiguate the blue line(s) spanning boxes 2, 3, 4, and 5. Specifically, is that one line straight line going from box 4 to box 3, which happens to include an offshoot (a branch) in box 2, or is it two lines (one from box 2 to box 3 and one from box 2 to box 4)? I haven't started the puzzle yet, so hopefully it'll become apparent while solving it.

    • @ajreukgjdi94
      @ajreukgjdi94 10 дней назад

      ​@@shadowpenguin3482 the comment mentioned the rules in the green box in the video which you copied verbatim.

    • @ajreukgjdi94
      @ajreukgjdi94 10 дней назад

      There were 2 things that helped me. First, I know how region sum lines normally work, and second, the sum in box 7 as you mentioned cleared up that the rules in the app were not only confusing, but wrong. So I just assumed the normal use and carried on.

  • @Legerine
    @Legerine 18 дней назад +1

    Merry Christmas to you and Simon!

  • @18lolable
    @18lolable 18 дней назад +16

    21:13 Why can red not be in R9C8 here exactly?

    • @debrawilden1971
      @debrawilden1971 18 дней назад

      Not sure exactly where you are in the solve, but I got R9C8 by seeing the blue lines in box 6 adding to 9.

    • @18lolable
      @18lolable 18 дней назад +4

      @@debrawilden1971 I was the at a point where they could still be either 8 or 9, 125 or 135
      so couldn't use that yet

    • @Samoth1995
      @Samoth1995 18 дней назад

      @@debrawilden1971 I'm not sure if that answers the question, though. Sure, you can get 9 out of that cell, but you can't get red out of there at this point in the solve - red is 7 or 8, so determining R9C8 is an 8 doesn't tell you whether it's red or not.

    • @debrawilden1971
      @debrawilden1971 18 дней назад

      @@Samoth1995 (Sorry I can't help further. I didn't follow the whole video, and I used diff colors then deleted them when all use.)

    • @default8522
      @default8522 18 дней назад +2

      Assuming you've got most cells pencil marked by this point -
      Once you've got your possible red and yellows in place - check R7C8, and see if placing a number causes any issues with the digits on the green line that spans Box 2>Box 6.

  • @StevenDavid-4q2
    @StevenDavid-4q2 18 дней назад +1

    Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas

  • @Paolo_De_Leva
    @Paolo_De_Leva 18 дней назад +3

    Great construction.
    I needed separate colours only for *7-8* pairs at the end. 5 was white. Everything else was *blue* or *orange* to represent polarity.
    By the way, the final disambiguation of the *7-8* pairs was perhaps the most enjoyable part of my solve and Mark missed it because he used incorrect logic to reach the same result, as I explained in a separate comment.

  • @n8style
    @n8style 18 дней назад +1

    Sounds like my xmas dinner, fun, a little bit of crunch, and satisfaction at the end

  • @piarittersporn
    @piarittersporn 17 дней назад

    Wonderful puzzle. Merry Christmas from Germany.

  • @pollydowdlepolly
    @pollydowdlepolly 17 дней назад

    Got as far as needing to resolve the identity of the 7/8 pair, then realised that if R5C7 was 3, then the orange would become 7 through the blue line in box 6, but this would also make the orange in R4C6 8. Hence breaking the puzzle. As I'd eliminated everything but 2/3 from R5C7, knew it had to be 2 and went from there.
    Don't know if there's any flaws in that thinking, but it solved me the puzzle in 37 minutes as a beginner/intermediate solver.

  • @PeterZaitcev
    @PeterZaitcev 18 дней назад +4

    The rule on reguin sum line in this puzzle is incorrect. Classical ruling should be applied instead: Blue region sum line is split into segments by 3x3 box borders. Each segment along the line should have the same total, but different lines may have different totals.

    • @Timlagor
      @Timlagor 18 дней назад +2

      I really dislike box being counted as one segment without calling it out

  • @srwapo
    @srwapo 18 дней назад +1

    117:49, broke the puzzle twice, looked at the video, saw that I ruled a 4 out of r7c6 at like the beginning because a 4 can't be in the middle of a green line (🤦‍♂️) and had to redo the puzzle. Of course, I mistyped a digit part way through and had to go through most of it a third time.

  • @mikepictor
    @mikepictor 18 дней назад +2

    wow, I've never done 80% of a puzzle so quickly, only to grind to a half in the last 20%. 40ish minutes in the end, and I cracked the 7s and 8s a totally different way than Marc, which surprised me.

    • @nudel97
      @nudel97 16 дней назад

      Mark didn't crack that part at all. He confused himself with the orange colouring in box 9 and simply got lucky it was the solution anyway.

  • @CineMiamParis
    @CineMiamParis 18 дней назад

    Merry Christmas, and a very happy day if you don’t celebrate Christmas. Gorgeous jacket, Mark!

  • @Gonzalo_Garcia_
    @Gonzalo_Garcia_ 17 дней назад

    12:10 for me. Great puzzle!!

  • @zirco77
    @zirco77 18 дней назад

    Nice fireplace in the back ;) Merry Christmas, Mark!

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior 18 дней назад

    37:46 for me. I messed up the puzzle, but was able to salvage it. Now I'm off to Christmas Eve church service. Merry Christmas, all!!

  • @chrisbrogan3307
    @chrisbrogan3307 17 дней назад

    90 minutes for me very enjoyable

  • @Coyotek4
    @Coyotek4 18 дней назад

    26:09 ... a nice solve for Christmas Eve
    Nice puzzle!

  • @longwaytotipperary
    @longwaytotipperary 18 дней назад +1

    You look nice, Mark! Merry Christmas everyone!!

  • @RoderickEtheria
    @RoderickEtheria 18 дней назад +6

    What is the proper method forward at 21:41? Mark's spouting nonsense at this point, as if red is not 7 it is 8, and that just means c8 in b9.
    Is bifurcation required to solve?

    • @aceguy1234
      @aceguy1234 18 дней назад

      If you look at the 2-3 pair in box 6 attached to the German Whisper, if it is a 3 then "red" (in Mark's puzzle) is an 8. However, if it is a 3 then the region sum line in box 6 will sum to 8. That is a contradiction since the number attached to the region sum line in box 9 is not red.

    • @RoderickEtheria
      @RoderickEtheria 18 дней назад

      Ah, yes, if r5c7 is a 3, both r7c2 and r7c8 have to be 8, and that is a contradiction. I see now.

  • @ryanoftinellb
    @ryanoftinellb 18 дней назад

    I can confirm. It's a beautiful sunny Christmas Day down here in Australia.

  • @davidh.4944
    @davidh.4944 17 дней назад

    1:16:40@#3669. Yet another one that started out reasonable, only to devolve into a quagmire. I got stuck for ages trying to break the deadlock. As clever as it is, I wish I hadn't started it. At least not today. I didn't really want to take this much time on a single solve.

  • @nomore6167
    @nomore6167 17 дней назад

    The rule in the app -- "All digits along a blue line must sum to the same total in each 3x3 box the line visits" -- is incorrect. One needs only to look at boxes 4 and 7 to know this is incorrect. The rule in the video description -- "Box borders divide a blue line into segments with an equal sum" -- is correct.

  • @johnpauladamovsky86
    @johnpauladamovsky86 18 дней назад +2

    *LOGICAL FALLACY* - 21:17 - Red could have been an '8' if it were in (Row 9, Col 8) = We *DEMAND* an apology...! LOL... We *DEMAND* perfection from Mark "Beast-Mode" Goodliffe...!

  • @arou99
    @arou99 11 дней назад

    If r7c8 is 8 then r7c3 is 9 and R7c2 is 7. If r7c8 is 9 then the blue line is 135 and r6c6 is 135 as well so r7c3 cannot be 1. There is a 2/3 pair in column 3 (because the 1 in box 7 is in column 1), so r7c3 cannot be 7, and again R7c2 is 7.

  • @iuriikononenko9238
    @iuriikononenko9238 18 дней назад

    Another lucky placement!
    I was just wanting to look for a nicer way of placing 78 than I have used.

  • @jussikuusela7345
    @jussikuusela7345 18 дней назад

    Merry Christmas, or what is left of it.
    I think I had made a big mistake, but it turned out to be small... I had mislabeled 8 and 9 in boxes 7 and 9. After fixing that I was able to finish swiftly.

  • @phuybrechts6875
    @phuybrechts6875 18 дней назад +1

    Don t forget the given 4 in box 4 😉

  • @markp7262
    @markp7262 18 дней назад

    26:12 finish. Merry Christmas to all!

  • @bait6652
    @bait6652 18 дней назад

    You can get pretty far w/o givens but seems like the 3 givens dissolve 3 different cluster of cells

  • @shiftyhexahedron7891
    @shiftyhexahedron7891 18 дней назад

    80m for me. A fun and festive solve

  • @inspiringsand123
    @inspiringsand123 18 дней назад

    Rules: 02:23
    Let's Get Cracking: 02:58
    What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?!
    Three In the Corner: 1x (28:37)
    And how about this video's Simarkisms?!
    Ah: 8x (09:34, 11:44, 14:45, 18:02, 18:05, 18:45, 19:08, 27:57)
    In Fact: 4x (15:12, 16:29, 17:01, 20:37)
    Brilliant: 3x (00:48, 02:07, 28:40)
    By Sudoku: 3x (09:41, 27:21, 27:24)
    Obviously: 3x (00:44, 16:16, 19:27)
    Pencil Mark/mark: 3x (07:39, 25:12, 28:15)
    Naked Single: 1x (24:26)
    Lovely: 1x (24:37)
    Extraordinary: 1x (17:11)
    First Digit: 1x (10:01)
    Deadly Pattern: 1x (26:20)
    Hang On: 1x (27:42)
    Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video:
    Thirty Five (4 mentions)
    One (79 mentions)
    Red (43 mentions)
    Antithesis Battles:
    High (15) - Low (11)
    Even (2) - Odd (0)
    Column (15) - Row (12)
    FAQ:
    Q1: You missed something!
    A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn!
    Q2: Can you do this for another channel?
    A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!

    • @torstenaan
      @torstenaan 18 дней назад

      Pretty sure you missed his mistake at 21:17, and him getting lucky.

  • @MarkWiseTechno
    @MarkWiseTechno 18 дней назад

    14:53 a nice, quick, and easy Xmas Eve puzzle!

  • @The4DRY4N
    @The4DRY4N 18 дней назад +1

    lookin' fine, mark!

  • @Numberplay
    @Numberplay 18 дней назад +2

    Man I'm stuck on the puzzle and while trying to figure out what I should find on the video I instead see wrong logic to solve the puzzle.

  • @MedusaMrigesh
    @MedusaMrigesh 17 дней назад

    How do the region sum lines in the X work? Is it two lines? Three lines? One line?

  • @punksterbass
    @punksterbass 18 дней назад

    About the R9C8 controversy: I was able to desambiguate with A LOT of backtracking after assumptions. I don't know how Mark got it that fast without being confused by his own pencil marks.

  • @umrankhan
    @umrankhan 17 дней назад

    Solve was wrogn!

  • @jasono8783
    @jasono8783 16 дней назад

    18:24 for me today!

  • @highpath4776
    @highpath4776 15 дней назад

    Why was R8C3 not a possible 4 ? ( because it would need two 9s in the box to be 5 away, so correct but not explained

  • @marcoballan4067
    @marcoballan4067 18 дней назад

    What song is the into music from??

  • @srishti81388
    @srishti81388 18 дней назад

    63:36 for me, after missing some very obvious sudoku

  • @remischmitt9308
    @remischmitt9308 18 дней назад +4

    The Description of the blue line is wrong. BOX 7 would have 4 numbers that the blue line visits and those sum at least to 10. Extra text needed like 'distinct groups on the same blue line count as different groups for the sum' .

    • @debrawilden1971
      @debrawilden1971 18 дней назад

      I think the rules, while a bit awkward, do indicate 'the same total in each 3x3 box the line visits.' This means that every time the line enters the box, it will have the same total. It's not the sum of ALL the blue lines in the box that = the sum of the connected blue lines in another box. (In box 7, the line in C = R6C1 = R7C2.)
      (I know this to be the case because I've seen a lot of puzzles with this rule. The puzzling time is when the blue line is only in one box. That has happened and makes no sense! At that point, I think it's just cosmetic, but certainly leads to confusion.)

    • @RichardDamon
      @RichardDamon 18 дней назад +3

      The text in the video and the description say ​ "box borders divide the line into equal sum segments", which makes it clear. The rules in the puzzle itself is the less clear version, which sometimes tries to mean the equivalent to that, and sometimes means add all the segments together. Since it is impossible for 4 different cells to add to a single cell, it is clear that the alternate version used in the video and the description is correct. I think it is hard to edit the rules in an existing puzzle without making a new link and "resetting" the solution count for the puzzle.

    • @sonnenstrahlen2037
      @sonnenstrahlen2037 18 дней назад +1

      "box borders divide the line into segments" - so we know that there are 2 different segments in box 7.

  • @林老師-i5d
    @林老師-i5d 18 дней назад

    24:40 for me
    nice puzzle

  • @zobososhizion6478
    @zobososhizion6478 18 дней назад

    00:54:51

  • @PathOfShrines
    @PathOfShrines 17 дней назад

    Nice. 25:28 for me

  • @Petrus74-yj4kv
    @Petrus74-yj4kv 18 дней назад

    Mark's pencil marking is simply hopeless in this one...

  • @TurquoizeGoldscraper
    @TurquoizeGoldscraper 18 дней назад

    25:50 for me.

  • @marksmith1721
    @marksmith1721 18 дней назад

    34.01 for me

  • @bruceh8043
    @bruceh8043 18 дней назад

    36:41 for me and solver #1746.

  • @sharath123sk
    @sharath123sk 18 дней назад

    Not a great solve Mark
    You did an error in concluding that red had to be 7, that’s not proper logic
    BTW solved it in 25 mins 23 secs with proper logic

  • @LednacekZ
    @LednacekZ 18 дней назад

    19:46 for me. not happy. i missed one line that made me waste a lot of time.

  • @peaoui165
    @peaoui165 18 дней назад

    Seems this can't be solved without bifurcation. Thumbs down

    • @default8522
      @default8522 18 дней назад

      Follow the usual solve process until you get stuck, and then look at the arrow clue that spans Box 9>Box 6 - there's a break in logic that doesn't require bifurcation to spot

    • @lhvinny
      @lhvinny 18 дней назад

      I solved this without any plug and chug at all.

    • @RoderickEtheria
      @RoderickEtheria 18 дней назад +1

      If r5c7 is a 3, it provides an instant contradiction between r7c2 and r7c8.

  • @ganimede17
    @ganimede17 18 дней назад

    00:38:43

  • @robertcousins2274
    @robertcousins2274 18 дней назад

    26:41 for me