Resubmits my theory that Kinger's obsession with bugs is him originally being sent into the game to look for Programing Bugs. And I loved the connection between the beginning and end, with her nightmare having them say they don't even remember her name and how little they care about her, but the funeral at the end making her alter her understanding and see that no, she WOULD be missed, remembered, that she's not alone, that they're all stuck in this same situation and struggling but they all care about each other too! I'm sure she'll start connecting with the other human characters more after this.
To be fair, Caine was clearly speaking from experience. As in the Circus was probably a lot more populated before he accidentally deleted a player instead of an NPC.
Also probably explains why any non-story-important npc is given a generic doll looking body. Less chance of a stray npc hiding in the ranks when it’s clear what they are.
Game-wise, it probably would be a save point, even a hub where all the NPCs are at and are allowed to keep themselves from resetting or losing memories.
My favourite theory about Kinger’s obsession with bugs is that he, and possibly Queenie, we’re beta testers for the Circus tasked with finding any bugs in the system
“Kinger’s *supposedly* been here the longest.” Jax said in the pilot. Then Ragatha was surprised that Kinger remembered her time in the circus in the beginning, supporting that he has a terrible memory recall. If the “Jax is an NPC” theory is true I think it’ll be given to us in breadcrumbs, like something as simple as Kinger not being able to remember when or how Jax joined could at first be played as a joke about his poor memory, but also serve as a clue that Jax never joined the circus like the rest of them did. And now knowing that if some NPCs can become sentient and have their perception of their world shattered, then maybe the same happened to Jax, and he decided to take matters into his own hands to avoid being trapped as nothing more than an NPC. But I dunno 🤷♀️
I disagree with the Jax npc theory since the creator confirmed he's 22 years old along with the age of the rest of them. I don't see them giving an npc an exact age.
I think Gummigoo is an npc. It's just that the ai is now so advanced he became self aware. That might bite the crew in the ass when they realise considering how callous some of them are with the npcd
I thought Gumigoo was going to vaporize the moment he walked through the portal, the fact NPCs can come back the 'main' Circus does have interesting implications
Really makes it seem like Caine saying he wouldn't want any confusion. He might have changed or deleted a player before mistaking them for an NPC, and with how little difference there are between the two, both sentient, the idea of NPCs being deleted is terrifying in itself.
@@luna732 Yeah that seems very likely, I was mostly thinking about the fact that they can pass through the different sections the same (NPC or person) means that the entire digital landscape that they live in is arguably all the same digital landscape- while there are different maps/levels, it seems they all run off the same engine/code source (pomni even had a similar physics issue as the truck when she tripped over the block at the beginning of the ep) which implies to me there is either a section where their original selves are that would be inaccessible to NPCs as they are different matter entirely, or their living selves are still outside the circus but just plugged into it and forced to interact through their avatars
Pomni making peace with her nightmare makes me so emotional - the fact they have a funeral for Kaufmo proves that they’re still somewhat human, they care, and they care about Pomni. She knows that if she falls, she won’t be alone, and she has them (hi can you tell I like found family). Also Pomni offering to help Gummigoo feels like she’s trying to make up for leaving Ragatha in the pilot. Especially after her dream, she was afraid of being alone and found a friend in Gummigoo, only to realise that her circus family are still determined to help her and that she’s going to be okay. I really hope we see more happy Pomni with the gang in the next episodes :D
Apparently the Candy Princess' name is Loolilalu. Which, if you don't know Metal Gear Solid, la-li-lu-le-lo, it's basically (as in, I'm dumbing it down as much as possible) a code-phrase that's used to suppress information. Trying to explain the entirety of the Metal Gear plots and not sound insane is impossible. I don't know if it's a coincidence here or directly a reference with a play on words. With how it's going here, I don't know.
Here's an easier way to explain the la-li-lu-le-lo thing: MGS is a japanese video game before being translated to english. In japenese, there aren't consonants and vowels as individual characters. Instead, there are sets of characters that are the same consonant sound with every vowel sound, ex da di du de do. Additionally, and more well known, Japanese doesn't have separate R and L consonant sounds. Put together, La-li-lu-le-lo is used as a replacement for something secret, so secret that it gets censored even as you try to speak it, so secret the thing that replaces it is impossible to understand or write down (in japanese, since they simply lack the characters for it)
The way Gummigoo got removed in less than a second reminds me of Sir Pentious getting one shot by Adam. Well, technically, he's not dead. I mean he is an NPC, he can always come back in some shape or form. 20:19 But Caine's reaction makes me think that he's accidently deleted humans before. 💀
Caine unaliving Gummigoo so unceremoniously made me feel so much rage… And right after Pomni found someone she could really confide in. Kinda surprised she didn't abstract right then.
I could tell it was gonna happen but what really got me was Pomni’s reaction to it all. And then the wholesome(ish) funeral at the end which made her feel like she wasn’t expendable to these people (everyone minus Jax)
This episode made my nephew HATE Caine, and I don’t entirely blame him. The funeral scene did make me cry and I did have to take a break from watching stuff with him for awhile lol
I kinda wonder if Pomni brought with her (or maybe even is) some sort of virus, because she seems to be around for A LOT of the bigger glitches. Even if it doesn’t happen directly to her, she always seems to be nearby when it happens. Or it could just be coincidental. Can’t wait to see more!
Gummigoo will come back and probably won’t remember Pomni at all… Also, to explain some stuff: the figurine thing is a reference to some people that will get 3D figurines of characters they like and do weird stuff with them, a whole lot of perverted stuff. If you watch the 3 minute short “Pomni wake up. It’s time to go on an adventure” you’ll see that they also reference that when promoting the Pomni and Caine figurines. (Gooseworx has also confirmed on Tumblr that Gangle is a weeb) And the “pow pow pow” that the other gummy guy was doing while skiing on the sand was a Pizza Tower reference! He wasn’t taking damage he was taunting/showing off. Like, “Ohhh I can do this while also spamming the taunt button.”
I understood the figurine reference on rewatch but I love all the other details you caught, also I love Gangle being a web lol, do you think they like digimon (very niche reference unless you’ve seen their va on twitch)
In regards to Jax, if you slow down his last appearance at the end, you’ll see a flash of sadness when they’re talking about the funeral, I think he is the character I’m most excited to see more of! In the pilot you can see they subtly animated human emotion but quickly masked it with his a-hole smile- absolutely brilliant animation omg
18:44 - That wasn't from the gator guy getting HIT - that was him doing stylish moves when he jumped over the rocks. Like in Paper Mario or Pizza Tower.
@@thethirdbill lol I do agree! I go back and forth on it trying to make sense of the cool idea. The concept of mixing human sentience and NPC is fascinating and I'm very excited to find out what Cane is truly up to. Thanks for the response ^.^ Love your content!
I like the idea that someone else brought up that if Caine is prone to mixing up NPC and Humans then maybe one of the "Human" characters is a NPC that has already snuck in.
This episode was really hard to watch -_- seeing Pomni cracking and trying and failing to process everything when Cain Thanosed Gummigoo was gut wrenching... Justice for Gummigoo!
@@ccherry.berryy Also I sumarized it in the previous reply incase you didnt want to click random links to twitter from strangers on yt. Lol I understand that fear. I dont click links in comment sections but I try to provide sources. Edit: I dont see my other comment. I wonder if it got deleted cause I put a link in the reply. So I guess just search it yourself I searched "Digital Circus content warning Jax". To summarize it again basically Gooseworx replied with a content warning for the whole series. Out of the 11 warnings the 11th was just listed as "-Jax".
How does this not have more likes??? I love the way you break everything down so beautifully in the analysis and I want to hear all your theories about this amazing show!
I still think there's a collection of the player avatars under the circus too and its organized by 'world' but we'll see lol that would be a great scene, someone finding the models and freaking out
I'm glad I'm not the only one shipping Ragatha with the Princess. Ragatha is my favorite so far, not because she's so nice(though I do like that as well) but just because I feel like it is a coping mechanism/codependency and I get that feeling I'm gonna relate to her when she snaps or shows the depths of her hurt ;u; Despite how horrifying and depressing this show is its so comforting.
Man, I wanted a break from my feelings today too, but I guess life is just one big foot up the arse, huh? Edit: Also! I loved that momentary little flicker of genuine emotion on Jax's face as Zooble and Ragatha were talking about the arrangements for Kaufmo's funeral. I REALLY do think he cares underneath all the sarcasm and sardonic attitude, but he uses that facade to protect himself from...ACTUALLY feeling his feelings and forming attachments (even though it obviously isn't working, reference the aforementioned filcker of genuine emotion). I'm strongly looking forward to where they take his character!
14:58 that is a fascinating take, I just don’t know how the fact that he had models could be explained tho, but it’s not like it wasn’t a huge room. So maybe if we subscribe to the “everyone is AI” theory than it could be revealed that they all have models in “the back rooms”
i think something further cemented is the very child-like visual theme that’s present throughout the show so far. it definitely could ring as almost like the internet series trope of “nostalgic, colorful series is actually hiding a terrible secret” but i think it’s truly more intentional than that. like, the main cast aren’t just colorful and strange, they’re literally toys. ragatha is obviously a rag doll and kinger is the king piece from a chess set. i think beyond that though pomni could pass as a porcelain clown doll, zooble is a sort of mess of those shape toys, jax almost reminds me of this stretchy rabbit toy i’d had as a kid with his too-long arms and legs. gangle is the hardest for me to pin down but i think that’s mostly because they seem to be made up of just some ribbon and their mask, which, i mean, isn’t unlike an imaginative kids’ toy?? even caine is one of those teeth-chattery toys slapped on top of a ring leader’s suit. i wonder if that theme is meant to imply that the players are part of some larger game, but not as a captive audience, rather a sort of a cog in the machine as a whole. it may also imply that caine is not as omnipotent as he seems seeing as he also follows that theme.
I cannot remember in which one but in a short mostly non-serious video about the amazing digital circus that glitch made it shows Pomni making a little funeral stand for gummigoo and it healed and then broke my already shattered heart
16:52 oh 100% he acts all cool and nonchalant but this is how he copes, he 100% is feeling just as much despair as everyone else. But the fact that he’s coping like this makes me question his age, like is he willfully immature or is he just a angsty teen. We only know the confirmed(ish) age of Pomni 100% being an adult but literally anyone could be any age and we have no solid proof one way or the other
I think I like the first episode a little more, but this really has me invested in what's *really* happening behind the scenes. And the animation is, of course, incredible.
5:59 idk if your gonna mention this in your theory crafting but I see it as everyone coping a different way (healthy or otherwise) Jax is detaching himself from this world in a similar way to how a lot of sims players would drown their sims in the pool or in rollercoaster tycoon. He sees even the real people as NPCs and holds no attachment to them, in a similar way as some keyboard warriors when your against someone in Fortnite. He sucks exponentially, but none of his assholery is without reason
i think when a human abstracts, which is how its been shown the other humans "die" in this realm that their consciousness is repurposed for the ais, i mean the day after kaufmo abstracts caine has an ai thats 57 times more immersive, i think caine realized that once abstracted their gone, so strings the left over chunks of mind for his npcs to keep the rest of the humans from meeting the same end
The disparities between Gummigoo getting hurt and the others getting hurt could be bc of the setting. The candy world is "made up" but it's built on top of this map, which is probably considered more "real" than the "made up" candy world.
TADC 🤝🏻 MLP FIM Devastating end to an episode followed by cheery credits (granted with mlp it was more of a season opener and season ender event rather than the likely regular occurrence it'll be with the circus but still)
I haven’t seen anyone mention it because I think it’s a deep cut reference but that goop monster had to be a nod towards ‘the greedy’ from the 70’s Raggedy Anne and Andy animated film which I find neat
i ALSO purchased a gummigoo plushie.. also.. the internet REVERSE tumblr sexymanned him.. in all of the art he is a buff, hairy cowboy body. buff or chubby. still based.
I think Jax could be hiding something. I heard someone say him always talking through his teeth could be referencing the saying “lying through your teeth”. And why does he have a key to everyone’s room? Hmmm
I think Gummigoo was an NPC. That one Gummy Dino guy who was doing the poses while on the rock trail I think was a reference to Mario Kart where any little bumps you can do tricks on
maybe. i just think it would be cool lol again, either the comment about the new AI being 57x better means gummigoo was able to connect with pomni, or gummigoo was a player who believed this was their life. we'll see haha
Typically, I wait until I've watched an entire video until a drop a like. This time, it only took him uttering the words "Im never eating another gummy again" right in the first 3 seconds of the video.
I don't have anything productive or useful to say, but RIP Gummigoo. I had a strong feeling he wasn't going to make it, but I was hoping I was wrong. :(
I think the guy hitting all the poses as he hit the rocks was a pre-programmed thing Can set up. Cause when we see all the assets fudge is among them, meaning the entire chase scene was designed by cane to end in the chocolate river. Any damage taken was goofy because rather than real damage it was a scripted even Cane devised for the players
If Cain did erase a player character on accident people are guessing jax but I guess kinger got erased on accident then Cain tried to put him back together or make him again which explains kingers jumbled memories half ai half human
While caine deleting a player is an interesting proposition, I think the more interesting proposition is that an npc might be posing as a player, possibly someone from the past or maybe one of the current cast. just something interesting to think about
Hope you’re doing okay Bill ❤ (Trigger warning) I’m preparing for my grandmothers funeral atm while she’s in hospice so I haven’t been able to catch streams but seeing your videos definitely raises my spirits 😊
I have my doubts about players being able to be deleted, because if they could, why wouldn't Caine just delete people who abstract (given that Gooseworks has confirmed is irreversible and it certainly doesn't seem like a pleasant existence) rather than tossing them into a cellar? Assuming hes actually a benevolent yet misguided AI, and not secretly a villain. Which also makes me skeptical of Gummygoo being a player, seeing as he DID get deleted, and also his model was included with the other NPCs in the devroom unlike the players.
What happened to Gummigoo kind of felt built up, so I kind of expected it. I think it would've surprised me if they kept him to the end so we're led to believe he made it, and then Caine pulls a Thanos in a later episode. But then the funeral wouldn't have been as impactful, ig.
At some point they will return to the sweet kingdom for an adventure and princess candy will be the villain (something like God sent you to help and you released a monster that destroyed my kingdom (god is a lie and I will kill you)) I think Jax lost someone in the real world, and perhaps the personality of not caring about anyone is a way of dealing with what happened. looking forward to seeing more
Not to add to the NPC-Player spiral, but Caine said that he doesn't have control over the humans' minds, which makes me wonder why he would be able to delete them. Isn't deletion just one more type of file manipulation? Like you said, we don't have a strong enough grasp of the rules to make proper theories, but it is odd to me that Caine clearly has Issues surrounding mixing up humans and NPCs when, theoretically, it should be easy to test who's who by messing with their minds.
*hops into spiral* well... he could be lying? lol maybe he also cant control NPC minds? it did get a huge boost by 57x ... im gonna reference my pilot episode here and say it could be a dot hack sign situation where the mind remains if he deletes a player? haha help im in the vortex again!
Omg you should react to digital hallucinations from OR3O a real good song and music video by kittensneeze to go along with it about TDC I think you’d love it
If any of the main cast are AI my bet would be on Gangle. From what little we see of them they change personality based on the mask and either they are very dedicated to the bit or they are an AI programmed to have this difference Jax might know with the whole "You're supposed to be agreeable, aren't you" Comment. It could be a jab at Gangle, it is Jax. Or it could allude to Gangle being programmed to be that way.
Resubmits my theory that Kinger's obsession with bugs is him originally being sent into the game to look for Programing Bugs.
And I loved the connection between the beginning and end, with her nightmare having them say they don't even remember her name and how little they care about her, but the funeral at the end making her alter her understanding and see that no, she WOULD be missed, remembered, that she's not alone, that they're all stuck in this same situation and struggling but they all care about each other too! I'm sure she'll start connecting with the other human characters more after this.
To be fair, Caine was clearly speaking from experience. As in the Circus was probably a lot more populated before he accidentally deleted a player instead of an NPC.
Also probably explains why any non-story-important npc is given a generic doll looking body. Less chance of a stray npc hiding in the ranks when it’s clear what they are.
Oh hey man, I see you commenting on Dimension 20 videos
Game-wise, it probably would be a save point, even a hub where all the NPCs are at and are allowed to keep themselves from resetting or losing memories.
not sure i understand the comment. i used that scene as an example of how good the directing is lol
My favourite theory about Kinger’s obsession with bugs is that he, and possibly Queenie, we’re beta testers for the Circus tasked with finding any bugs in the system
“Kinger’s *supposedly* been here the longest.” Jax said in the pilot. Then Ragatha was surprised that Kinger remembered her time in the circus in the beginning, supporting that he has a terrible memory recall. If the “Jax is an NPC” theory is true I think it’ll be given to us in breadcrumbs, like something as simple as Kinger not being able to remember when or how Jax joined could at first be played as a joke about his poor memory, but also serve as a clue that Jax never joined the circus like the rest of them did. And now knowing that if some NPCs can become sentient and have their perception of their world shattered, then maybe the same happened to Jax, and he decided to take matters into his own hands to avoid being trapped as nothing more than an NPC. But I dunno 🤷♀️
Gooseworx said Jax is the player that deserves to be at the circus the most. Maybe that's not because he's evil, but because he's not real.
I disagree with the Jax npc theory since the creator confirmed he's 22 years old along with the age of the rest of them. I don't see them giving an npc an exact age.
I think Gummigoo is an npc. It's just that the ai is now so advanced he became self aware. That might bite the crew in the ass when they realise considering how callous some of them are with the npcd
i go back and forth on that so much in the video i cant tell if you agree with me or not lol
I thought Gumigoo was going to vaporize the moment he walked through the portal, the fact NPCs can come back the 'main' Circus does have interesting implications
Really makes it seem like Caine saying he wouldn't want any confusion. He might have changed or deleted a player before mistaking them for an NPC, and with how little difference there are between the two, both sentient, the idea of NPCs being deleted is terrifying in itself.
you're probably right, but OOOHHH man i still think it would be cool if he can't tell anymore so just went 'new thing?! BYYEEE"
@@luna732 Yeah that seems very likely, I was mostly thinking about the fact that they can pass through the different sections the same (NPC or person) means that the entire digital landscape that they live in is arguably all the same digital landscape- while there are different maps/levels, it seems they all run off the same engine/code source (pomni even had a similar physics issue as the truck when she tripped over the block at the beginning of the ep) which implies to me there is either a section where their original selves are that would be inaccessible to NPCs as they are different matter entirely, or their living selves are still outside the circus but just plugged into it and forced to interact through their avatars
Pomni making peace with her nightmare makes me so emotional - the fact they have a funeral for Kaufmo proves that they’re still somewhat human, they care, and they care about Pomni. She knows that if she falls, she won’t be alone, and she has them (hi can you tell I like found family).
Also Pomni offering to help Gummigoo feels like she’s trying to make up for leaving Ragatha in the pilot. Especially after her dream, she was afraid of being alone and found a friend in Gummigoo, only to realise that her circus family are still determined to help her and that she’s going to be okay.
I really hope we see more happy Pomni with the gang in the next episodes :D
Apparently the Candy Princess' name is Loolilalu. Which, if you don't know Metal Gear Solid, la-li-lu-le-lo, it's basically (as in, I'm dumbing it down as much as possible) a code-phrase that's used to suppress information. Trying to explain the entirety of the Metal Gear plots and not sound insane is impossible. I don't know if it's a coincidence here or directly a reference with a play on words. With how it's going here, I don't know.
Here's an easier way to explain the la-li-lu-le-lo thing:
MGS is a japanese video game before being translated to english. In japenese, there aren't consonants and vowels as individual characters. Instead, there are sets of characters that are the same consonant sound with every vowel sound, ex da di du de do. Additionally, and more well known, Japanese doesn't have separate R and L consonant sounds.
Put together, La-li-lu-le-lo is used as a replacement for something secret, so secret that it gets censored even as you try to speak it, so secret the thing that replaces it is impossible to understand or write down (in japanese, since they simply lack the characters for it)
The way Gummigoo got removed in less than a second reminds me of Sir Pentious getting one shot by Adam. Well, technically, he's not dead. I mean he is an NPC, he can always come back in some shape or form.
20:19 But Caine's reaction makes me think that he's accidently deleted humans before. 💀
But he won't have the memories.
@@ShadyRK9 That's the sad detail.
Holy shit you could be right-
@@Jonathan_Collinsyeah and why would Pomni burden him with the knowledge willingly. She lost him in all ways that matter
@@ccherry.berryyI mean… I’d imagine she’d want Gummigoo to not live this lie willingly. It’s a hard truth but it’s also a truth he deserves to know.
Caine unaliving Gummigoo so unceremoniously made me feel so much rage… And right after Pomni found someone she could really confide in. Kinda surprised she didn't abstract right then.
Really making the rounds aren't you?
I don't get why people do this for every video, like 4 or 5 times should be enough right? It's not like TADC will fall into irrelevance anytime soon!
I could tell it was gonna happen but what really got me was Pomni’s reaction to it all. And then the wholesome(ish) funeral at the end which made her feel like she wasn’t expendable to these people (everyone minus Jax)
I feel like that mind of thing is going to become a trend
@@02miguener99swhat do you mean?
This episode made my nephew HATE Caine, and I don’t entirely blame him. The funeral scene did make me cry and I did have to take a break from watching stuff with him for awhile lol
5:22 you said “I hope he isn’t hot” and I didn’t see it before but man the voice, smooth like butter
This one was a major “oh no Bill” episode.
Yep-
I kinda wonder if Pomni brought with her (or maybe even is) some sort of virus, because she seems to be around for A LOT of the bigger glitches. Even if it doesn’t happen directly to her, she always seems to be nearby when it happens. Or it could just be coincidental. Can’t wait to see more!
Ep 2’s animation was absolutely gorgeous and after seeing them flex their storytelling abilities I’m excited for what’s to come
Gummigoo will come back and probably won’t remember Pomni at all…
Also, to explain some stuff: the figurine thing is a reference to some people that will get 3D figurines of characters they like and do weird stuff with them, a whole lot of perverted stuff. If you watch the 3 minute short “Pomni wake up. It’s time to go on an adventure” you’ll see that they also reference that when promoting the Pomni and Caine figurines. (Gooseworx has also confirmed on Tumblr that Gangle is a weeb)
And the “pow pow pow” that the other gummy guy was doing while skiing on the sand was a Pizza Tower reference! He wasn’t taking damage he was taunting/showing off. Like, “Ohhh I can do this while also spamming the taunt button.”
I understood the figurine reference on rewatch but I love all the other details you caught, also I love Gangle being a web lol, do you think they like digimon (very niche reference unless you’ve seen their va on twitch)
@@ccherry.berryydigimon??? Niche????
"That pa pa pa pa POW" was just a sonic the hedgehog joke
In regards to Jax, if you slow down his last appearance at the end, you’ll see a flash of sadness when they’re talking about the funeral, I think he is the character I’m most excited to see more of! In the pilot you can see they subtly animated human emotion but quickly masked it with his a-hole smile- absolutely brilliant animation omg
don't worry that's in the video lol both of them actually. please enjoy my many rants about jax secretly caring!
18:44 - That wasn't from the gator guy getting HIT - that was him doing stylish moves when he jumped over the rocks. Like in Paper Mario or Pizza Tower.
I think gummigoo is an NPC with human sentience implanted in the model. Like cane is mixing human and NPC which is why he can't tell them apart.
i go back and forth on this so much in the video that i cant even tell if you agree with me or not lol
@@thethirdbill lol I do agree! I go back and forth on it trying to make sense of the cool idea. The concept of mixing human sentience and NPC is fascinating and I'm very excited to find out what Cane is truly up to. Thanks for the response ^.^ Love your content!
I like the idea that someone else brought up that if Caine is prone to mixing up NPC and Humans then maybe one of the "Human" characters is a NPC that has already snuck in.
This episode was really hard to watch -_- seeing Pomni cracking and trying and failing to process everything when Cain Thanosed Gummigoo was gut wrenching...
Justice for Gummigoo!
"Why are there so many knives back here?"
Also allegedly one of the content warnings is just Jax. Lol
Explain that please
@@ccherry.berryy Also I sumarized it in the previous reply incase you didnt want to click random links to twitter from strangers on yt. Lol I understand that fear. I dont click links in comment sections but I try to provide sources.
Edit: I dont see my other comment. I wonder if it got deleted cause I put a link in the reply. So I guess just search it yourself I searched "Digital Circus content warning Jax". To summarize it again basically Gooseworx replied with a content warning for the whole series. Out of the 11 warnings the 11th was just listed as "-Jax".
your link wasnt in my held for review tab, so it was probably an error or removed for having an external link
I saw the thumbnail and reflexively shouted, "Oh no, Bill!"
I mean, Cain kinda is their god. Literally their entire world and everyone in it was created by him with a preordained purpose.
dont worry i talk about that later in the video lol hope you enjoy the rest if you check it out
@@thethirdbill yeah, I wrote this before I finished. My bad.
How does this not have more likes??? I love the way you break everything down so beautifully in the analysis and I want to hear all your theories about this amazing show!
:')
8:52 on rewatch this makes me scream- I knew it was coming even the first time but AHHHHHHH this show man- it lives up to the hype tenfold
I feel like the fact that he had an asset in the off-map area definitively means Gummigoo was created by Cane
I still think there's a collection of the player avatars under the circus too and its organized by 'world' but we'll see lol that would be a great scene, someone finding the models and freaking out
16:09 also just the bisexual finger guns in general, it could also be a nervous tick but a fellow bi can dream okay
I'm glad I'm not the only one shipping Ragatha with the Princess. Ragatha is my favorite so far, not because she's so nice(though I do like that as well) but just because I feel like it is a coping mechanism/codependency and I get that feeling I'm gonna relate to her when she snaps or shows the depths of her hurt ;u;
Despite how horrifying and depressing this show is its so comforting.
The "pow-pow-pow-pow-pow" was him doing tricks lol
5:24 It's black licorice, too.
18:07 Her name is Gangle.
Man, I wanted a break from my feelings today too, but I guess life is just one big foot up the arse, huh?
Edit: Also! I loved that momentary little flicker of genuine emotion on Jax's face as Zooble and Ragatha were talking about the arrangements for Kaufmo's funeral. I REALLY do think he cares underneath all the sarcasm and sardonic attitude, but he uses that facade to protect himself from...ACTUALLY feeling his feelings and forming attachments (even though it obviously isn't working, reference the aforementioned filcker of genuine emotion). I'm strongly looking forward to where they take his character!
Oh absolutely, Jax intrigues me the more I watch him, he’s a little shit right now but i feel like something at some point will shatter his facade
@@ccherry.berryy 100%. And it'll either become a moment of growth for him, or a breaking point. Time will tell...
I'm glad you agree with my breakdown of jax, and sorry you're having a rough time too.
14:58 that is a fascinating take, I just don’t know how the fact that he had models could be explained tho, but it’s not like it wasn’t a huge room. So maybe if we subscribe to the “everyone is AI” theory than it could be revealed that they all have models in “the back rooms”
Me buying a Gummigoo keychain through tears: 😭
Me wishing i could buy a plush but happy for you but also still sad we lost a legend
i think something further cemented is the very child-like visual theme that’s present throughout the show so far. it definitely could ring as almost like the internet series trope of “nostalgic, colorful series is actually hiding a terrible secret” but i think it’s truly more intentional than that.
like, the main cast aren’t just colorful and strange, they’re literally toys. ragatha is obviously a rag doll and kinger is the king piece from a chess set. i think beyond that though pomni could pass as a porcelain clown doll, zooble is a sort of mess of those shape toys, jax almost reminds me of this stretchy rabbit toy i’d had as a kid with his too-long arms and legs. gangle is the hardest for me to pin down but i think that’s mostly because they seem to be made up of just some ribbon and their mask, which, i mean, isn’t unlike an imaginative kids’ toy??
even caine is one of those teeth-chattery toys slapped on top of a ring leader’s suit.
i wonder if that theme is meant to imply that the players are part of some larger game, but not as a captive audience, rather a sort of a cog in the machine as a whole. it may also imply that caine is not as omnipotent as he seems seeing as he also follows that theme.
I also got the Gummigoo plush immediately after i finished watching the episode 😂
i am still currently unable to get one sadly.
@@thethirdbill hope you're able to once they're available again!
they're sold out? i cant afford one
@@thethirdbill oops, I didn't check 😅 guess I'll just have to support your channel more so u can get one
the little "pow pow pow" you mention when the shorter guummygater is behind the truck is just the silly guy doing poses lol
I cannot remember in which one but in a short mostly non-serious video about the amazing digital circus that glitch made it shows Pomni making a little funeral stand for gummigoo and it healed and then broke my already shattered heart
The first 3 seconds of the video already told us Bill really loves Gummigoo
16:52 oh 100% he acts all cool and nonchalant but this is how he copes, he 100% is feeling just as much despair as everyone else. But the fact that he’s coping like this makes me question his age, like is he willfully immature or is he just a angsty teen. We only know the confirmed(ish) age of Pomni 100% being an adult but literally anyone could be any age and we have no solid proof one way or the other
17:59 im starting to see where your getting your undertale/ deltarune related influences from, that is really compelling
the *pow pow pow* that happened to the other gummy gator was him doing sick stunts, I dont think its evidence that gummigoo is human
I think I like the first episode a little more, but this really has me invested in what's *really* happening behind the scenes. And the animation is, of course, incredible.
6:54 HE DOESNT HAVE ONE- CAINE DOESNT HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO GIVE THEM THERAPY- IF HE DID HE’D DO IT FOR THE CIRCUS, CUZ THE CLEARLY ALL NEED IT /lh
5:59 idk if your gonna mention this in your theory crafting but I see it as everyone coping a different way (healthy or otherwise) Jax is detaching himself from this world in a similar way to how a lot of sims players would drown their sims in the pool or in rollercoaster tycoon.
He sees even the real people as NPCs and holds no attachment to them, in a similar way as some keyboard warriors when your against someone in Fortnite. He sucks exponentially, but none of his assholery is without reason
i think when a human abstracts, which is how its been shown the other humans "die" in this realm
that their consciousness is repurposed for the ais, i mean the day after kaufmo abstracts caine has an ai thats 57 times more immersive, i think caine realized that once abstracted their gone, so strings the left over chunks of mind for his npcs to keep the rest of the humans from meeting the same end
I haven’t hard a theory like that for kings yet. And it actually kinda makes sense looking back
had to edit the whole thought for time, but he does it a few times in the pilot too.
Before clicking I predicted bill would cry , instant confirmation
If you do a full Digital Circus theory video I'm down! Also I remember you once did reactions to fan songs? I'd be keen to see you react to some!
The disparities between Gummigoo getting hurt and the others getting hurt could be bc of the setting. The candy world is "made up" but it's built on top of this map, which is probably considered more "real" than the "made up" candy world.
9:39 oh that intrigues me exponentially woah-
11:25 oh I missed this frame on my first watch through- empathetic Jax real??
TADC 🤝🏻 MLP FIM
Devastating end to an episode followed by cheery credits
(granted with mlp it was more of a season opener and season ender event rather than the likely regular occurrence it'll be with the circus but still)
I haven’t seen anyone mention it because I think it’s a deep cut reference but that goop monster had to be a nod towards ‘the greedy’ from the 70’s Raggedy Anne and Andy animated film which I find neat
The “Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow” was a reference to skateboarding game and such.
Bill just minutes before Digital Circus Pain, "I wanted a break from my feelings today". - 2024
i ALSO purchased a gummigoo plushie.. also.. the internet REVERSE tumblr sexymanned him.. in all of the art he is a buff, hairy cowboy body. buff or chubby. still based.
sadly, i have not been able to purchase my gummigoo plush but maybe we'll get there lol
Great reaction!
Such a good episode!
I think Jax could be hiding something. I heard someone say him always talking through his teeth could be referencing the saying “lying through your teeth”. And why does he have a key to everyone’s room? Hmmm
0:57 At least there's also a Ragatha plush now.
I think Gummigoo was an NPC. That one Gummy Dino guy who was doing the poses while on the rock trail I think was a reference to Mario Kart where any little bumps you can do tricks on
maybe. i just think it would be cool lol again, either the comment about the new AI being 57x better means gummigoo was able to connect with pomni, or gummigoo was a player who believed this was their life. we'll see haha
17:22 death doesn’t stop anyone from being eligible imo
Bill dies, Sans in some timelines also dies
Typically, I wait until I've watched an entire video until a drop a like. This time, it only took him uttering the words "Im never eating another gummy again" right in the first 3 seconds of the video.
i hope the rest of the video held up!
@@thethirdbill I can assure you it did. It was very validating to see someone equally destroyed by Gummigoo's death.
Omg this episode was wild and sad. Had a much darker tone than the first one. Great episode 👏. Glitch has done it again ❤️.
I don't have anything productive or useful to say, but RIP Gummigoo. I had a strong feeling he wasn't going to make it, but I was hoping I was wrong. :(
I already bought the Gummigoo Plushie. I love himmmmmm
I think the guy hitting all the poses as he hit the rocks was a pre-programmed thing Can set up. Cause when we see all the assets fudge is among them, meaning the entire chase scene was designed by cane to end in the chocolate river. Any damage taken was goofy because rather than real damage it was a scripted even Cane devised for the players
0:02 It's okay, I never ate gummies to start with.
11:32 oh I’m so sorry
I hope it gives you some closure💛
All your reactions are my reactions. I'm crying from.. laughter?? XD
The ribbon pal is called Gangle, who is a she/her
If Cain did erase a player character on accident people are guessing jax but I guess kinger got erased on accident then Cain tried to put him back together or make him again which explains kingers jumbled memories half ai half human
that would be suuuuper cool
^that's genuine btw idk reading just now it looks sarcastic
10:52 yeah..
"oh no he's kinda hot' RIGHT!?!???
The Ribbon character is Gangle and she's a girl!
I have spread a theory of one of the main gang being an npc because I guess this episode wasn’t dark and depressing enough with Gummigoo
While caine deleting a player is an interesting proposition, I think the more interesting proposition is that an npc might be posing as a player, possibly someone from the past or maybe one of the current cast. just something interesting to think about
why not both? haha idk if you got that far in the video, but im talking about both being things that have happened lol
6:29
SPOILERS BELOW!!!
not yet anyway. Rip (eventually) Gummigoo o7
4:06 huh- that’s not a bad theory. But I now am subscribed to the theory that Caine is an AI somehow considering this scene ( 10:58 )
9:22 maybe you can be the circus therapist
Verbal references to pop culture are pretty commonplace. So the August Gloop line is fine
dont worry. i was joking around lol
Hope you’re doing okay Bill ❤ (Trigger warning)
I’m preparing for my grandmothers funeral atm while she’s in hospice so I haven’t been able to catch streams but seeing your videos definitely raises my spirits 😊
I'm so sorry to hear that. Hopes of wellness back to you and yours
i'd be super interested in seeing your reaction to something like alien stage or milgram!!
I’m still in pain 24 hours later
I’m plotting the most torturous way to make Caine wish he’d never been created
Me too. What did to pomni's new friend, HE WILL PAY!
Caine didn't do anything wrong , he just a little guy 🥰
cool to see you cover this
penelope scott has dropped 2 eps so you should cover those
18:24 oh no- is that in relation to the jar if so it’s funny how they’re acknowledging it but also I hate it /lh
Ironically the episode makes me want gummy bears more!
I have my doubts about players being able to be deleted, because if they could, why wouldn't Caine just delete people who abstract (given that Gooseworks has confirmed is irreversible and it certainly doesn't seem like a pleasant existence) rather than tossing them into a cellar? Assuming hes actually a benevolent yet misguided AI, and not secretly a villain. Which also makes me skeptical of Gummygoo being a player, seeing as he DID get deleted, and also his model was included with the other NPCs in the devroom unlike the players.
What happened to Gummigoo kind of felt built up, so I kind of expected it. I think it would've surprised me if they kept him to the end so we're led to believe he made it, and then Caine pulls a Thanos in a later episode. But then the funeral wouldn't have been as impactful, ig.
the ribbon WOMANs name is GANGLE show my girl some RESPECT smh /lh
so we agree? more screentime for gangle lmaoo *mean girls meme face*
NPC with an existential crisis. Hang on I’m checking, checking nope not on my bingo card.
At some point they will return to the sweet kingdom for an adventure and princess candy will be the villain (something like God sent you to help and you released a monster that destroyed my kingdom (god is a lie and I will kill you))
I think Jax lost someone in the real world, and perhaps the personality of not caring about anyone is a way of dealing with what happened.
looking forward to seeing more
Not to add to the NPC-Player spiral, but Caine said that he doesn't have control over the humans' minds, which makes me wonder why he would be able to delete them. Isn't deletion just one more type of file manipulation? Like you said, we don't have a strong enough grasp of the rules to make proper theories, but it is odd to me that Caine clearly has Issues surrounding mixing up humans and NPCs when, theoretically, it should be easy to test who's who by messing with their minds.
*hops into spiral* well... he could be lying? lol maybe he also cant control NPC minds? it did get a huge boost by 57x ... im gonna reference my pilot episode here and say it could be a dot hack sign situation where the mind remains if he deletes a player? haha help im in the vortex again!
Omg you should react to digital hallucinations from OR3O a real good song and music video by kittensneeze to go along with it about TDC I think you’d love it
yay bill video
episode 3 is out :T
If any of the main cast are AI my bet would be on Gangle. From what little we see of them they change personality based on the mask and either they are very dedicated to the bit or they are an AI programmed to have this difference
Jax might know with the whole "You're supposed to be agreeable, aren't you" Comment. It could be a jab at Gangle, it is Jax. Or it could allude to Gangle being programmed to be that way.
i find myself considering gangle too lol
I do like the theory that Jax is a npc