Aikido vs Karate - REAL SPARRING
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Karate black belt Jesse Enkamp and aikido black belt Rokas Leo decided to do a real sparring session of aikido vs karate. The results were different than expected.
00:00 Intro
00:22 The rules of this sparring
01:15 Sparring Round 1
01:51 Round 1 afterthoughts
03:17 Sparring Round 2
03:48 Round 2 afterthoughts
05:08 Conclusions
Check out Jesse Enkamp's channel here: / jesseenkamp
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My name is Rokas. I'm a Lithuanian guy who trained Aikido for 14 years, 7 of them running a professional Aikido Dojo until eventually, I realized that Aikido does not live up to what it promises.
Lead by this realization I decided to make a daring step to close my Aikido Dojo and move to Portland, Oregon for six months to start training MMA at the famous Straight Blast Gym Headquarters under head coach Matt Thornton.
After six months intensive training I had my first amateur MMA fight after which I moved back to Lithuania. During all of this time I am documenting my experience through my RUclips channel called "Martial Arts Journey".
Now I am slowly setting up plans to continue training MMA under quality guidance and getting ready for my next MMA fight as I further document and share my journey and discoveries.
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Watch the previous Martial Arts vlog where I taught functional Aikido: ruclips.net/video/BB0_p0tfAHE/видео.html
Watch the full Aikido vs Karate sparring and exchange here: ruclips.net/video/L-OxVZXhRik/видео.html
Martial Arts Vlog #2 - Why I nearly quit BJJ - ruclips.net/video/KOtiyYOYeFs/видео.html
Martial Arts Vlog #1 - The hardest martial arts training of my life - ruclips.net/video/7o3S6c3oH7k/видео.html
Brother awesome. Channel i practice muay thai not aikido..but I like your channel ... brother why don't you try your functional aikido against a non trained fighter.. that will highlight your techniques
@@TMMApplianceRepair Thanks! I'm thinking about trying it out against a less experienced fighter too. I'm also really looking forward to try Muay Thai one day
@@MartialArtsJourney Godspeed on your journey my friend
Hey Rokus. Great video again, you keep knocking them out of the park. Bravo. One question I have is, would you ever consider training in Judo? Judo, while also having ground fighting, has a strong trowing game. I think you would really be able to use some of your Aikido knowledge to develop the attributes that would allow you to thrive in Judo.
Enter shaolin or enter tai chi .. if you love martial art
I want next!! 😂😂
Without even knowing you were already next on my list 🤨 As soon as the USA is allowing me to fly in I'm coming
👀
Sense Seth is in the comments.
What would you do with him sir? Karate vs Aikido again. I hope you invite Shintaro Higashi too
LOL!!!
I also loved the quote ”you either win or you learn”. Got my ass handed to me in boxing sparring today, but I learned several new things.
100%
My sensei says, don't spar to just go win. Spar to work on a move. If the other guy scores, fine. Work on YOUR moves based on what your opponent does.
Full contact sparring: You either win or you forget.
@@kbanghart yeah you discovered fire...
Aikido works great… from full mount top position. That way the other guy can’t run away. But at that point, people tend to call it jiu-jitsu.
Haha. That's a good point. It also reminds me of what Matt Thornton (BJJ coach) one said to me: "Being good at Jiu Jitsu I can make all sorts of Aikido techniques work. But is that Aikido anymore?"
Or if you have the timing and kazushi down.
@@jesseshaffer3951 If you look at Shodokan/Tomiki comps though, there's only a small number of people who can off balance or lock up a resisting opponent. And that's under JAA type rules which are incredibly restrictive (99.9999% of BJJ moves would be banned).
Even with world class Aikdio skills, the techniques and strategies of Aikido are far too limited to pull off against anyone with a modicum of training in something like BJJ. They tried a similar thing before where they got a world class Push Hands Tai Chi fighter to grapple with Marcelo Garcia. Marcelo got the better of it by some way.
@@humann5682 some would say surviving consecutive sword fights is nearly impossible. -- I am saying is that the actual technique is not just a wrist lock. That is missing the other 90% of it. Timing and footwork are just as important. You can make similar assertions about all kinds of techniques from all different styles (judo does not work without fitting in for instance, or in BJJ I have heard they value position first) -- I won't argue who trains what or how this school does X because Ueshiba taught each of his students differently.
@@humann5682 if you watch rokas BJJ irimi nage video you can see how it doesn't work when they stop doing the footwork. --edit: I wouldn't be surprised if the footwork is more applicable then the wrist locks overall. Maybe if you swapped some of the locks for strikes even. I hope I can find someone to test this with some day LoL 😆 ( btw take it with a grain of salt I am not a master)
"Pfft... i would stop aikido" -Jesse Enkamp lol
Haha. Good quote
Yeah, probably jiujitsu is plenty good to cover whatever gaps aikido aims to cover.
This is the stuff I love seeing, RUclips channels cross collaborating with open minds and also commenting on others lol
Hmm, well Jesse didn’t stop karate when he lost sparring to a muay thai -fighter, so.
@@moz5831 haha, off topic, but when I think of fighters from Thailand, I like to think of fighters from other countries as X-Wings because they are Thai Fighters.
love this dialogue:
- any tips?
- i would stop aikido and start karate
coming from the karate nerd, i expected no less
great video, as usual
As someone who's trained Aikido for 7 years, then abandoned it and joined, judo, sanda, Boxing, and now have a new perspective of this seemingly "useless" art, I was inspired by your videos and Jesse's, and therefore went excited to see you two mashing up. Awesome!!!! As for the sparring, I'd give my 2 cents that thing you should let him come to you, and use some feints(atemi) to provoke his attack, then counter them, as Aikido works best in a defensive situation.
It doesnt even work as an defensive situation.
To be able to grab someones hand while it flies toward you in high speed is close to impossible.
Aikido is a fake martial art. Sorry to say that.
But it's equal to Tai chi
@@vipr1142 I get the Tai Chi comparison, there is a lot of bullshit techniques but I wouldn't call it entirely fake. It was designed for medieval warfare, where judo and jiu-jitsu are more well designed for unarmed combat. The fundamentals of stance, movement, weight distribution and timing in Aikido are legit. I took less than a year of it when I was a kid. That stuff always kept me on my feet whenever someone tried to take me down.
@@vipr1142 It depends on what you mean by "grab someone's hand." I agree that its difficult, but its not impossible, however, if you grab someone's hand from a punch (jab, cross, hook, whatever), its not at all going to look like aikido. Its going to look like a messy grappling situation, and you'll probably end up getting more their wrist, elbow, overhook, or underhook like in wrestling (I suppose you could end up with a sleeve grip like in judo if they're wearing long sleeves).
@@Snyde70
". I took less than a year of it when I was a kid. "
How would you know it's no good, then? You have to get a black belt, at a studio where they spar against other systems, THEN tell me it doesn't work.
Since you are learning Sanda, can you tell about its effectiveness?
I always was under the impression that Aikido was about finding an exit from a situation by engaging as little as possible. If you are going toe to toe and trading with an opponent that seems to be the antithesis of Aikido.
Exactly
Exactly. Aikido is for asymmetrical conflicts. Meaning that the aikidoka tries to disengage from the conflict and the other guys try to engage more in the conflict.
If you as an aikidoka starts engaging in the fight, stepping in and out and trading blows, it’s no longer the appropriate scenario where you could make aikido work in its current form. Then it need some considerable adaptation.
aikido can´t be used in those type of fights because the opponent can get injured
@@omarjairchavezmancisidor1671 yeah, right, Aikido is "too dangerous" for "da streets" 😆
@@jonirenicus9407 hmmm you are expert?
Food for thought... the original top students of Ueshiba were all versed in multiple styles. They weren't obsessed with being an "aikido purist", they were simply focused on elevating their already established skills using Aiki Budo (Daito Ryu JJ/Aikijujutsu). Many of these students were very open minded towards ALL styles from East and West (some were Sumo, some were Judoka, some were JJ, some were Karate and Western Boxing).
Aikido vs. American Streetfighter?
Is than an invitation? 🤔 Because I'm down to make it happen 😁
Do it!
Do it!
Ooooh exciting
Awesome do it!
Jesse was probably harder to deal with than the average karateka. While he obviously has competitive experience, he never limited himself to just point fighting and it's clear by looking at him that he does a lot of continuous free sparring to round up his training, which is something many modern karateka sadly skip on. Compared to the standard point style most people are familiar with, Jesse's style is more paced and constant, he pressures more and uses more combinations rather than single strikes. Amazing video! 🤩
Thats a really nice gym!
It's actually a whole Japanese village in Poland! I couldn't believe it at first. The Dojo itself is really cool too. There's even a Zen garden next to it and the Dojo is on a top of a hill
BJJ Globetrotters does a BJJ camp there every year. The place is amazing! Japanese houses heated by local logs, there's a steam room/sauna, it's next to a huge forest with wild boar etc, the food is excellent and you've seen the main dojo. Built by a traditional karate Japanese guy in the 90s. It's half way between Krakow and Warsaw, way out in the countryside.
There is even a HEMA swordfighting camp there called HEMAtoma, seems to work for a great many martial arts 😀
@@MartialArtsJourney What is is called?
@@eagletsar5700 Dojo Stara Wieś.
I'm so exited for this new era of martial arts! So many well meaning representatives of their different arts, sharing their knowledge with other great practicioners while we learn through their journey.
Thank you.
Trueeeeeee
I'm sure a lot of viewers along with me greatly appreciate your honesty! Thank you for posting! You and Jesse Enkamp make a fantastic teaching duo.
🙏
Incredible maturity on your part for uploading this. Respect.
Just a thought, but maybe you could try setting up your aikido techiniques with basic combinations using kicks and punches first? I feel that while Jesse was good, it was a bit obvious that you were going for aikido techniques, when you could make him guess between aikido or kickboxing. Anyways love ur content man.
Exactly but it is true, aikido needs a commitment of sorts and then ends up looking like aiki-jujutsu instead. Against an untrained attacker potentially but a guy moving in and out picking his shots, forget about it.
@@Polentaccio True!
Yeah, I really don't see how you can pull off anything when your opponent knows that you're restricting yourself to Aikido.
Aikido +punches+kicks =hapkido
Yeah, few feints and set ups might work. You never get a lock if you go straight forward like that.
Thank you very much for your hard work improving Aikido.
Love seeing you collaborate with Jesse. Your collaboration videos bring great positive vibes and I wish you the best! Keep going with your functional Aikido idea! I think you have something unique there and there will be times when you just feel so discouraged that it won't work that you'll want to quit cold turkey. Keep at it! Only through the sort of the pressure testing you are doing do you discover some of the greatest realizations and understandings.
It's awesome to see you guys together. I hope you and Jesse keep working together.
I love the respect in these videos, no disrespecting of any styles or calling it useless, just a productive session and conversation on the topic about strengths and weaknesses
I would absolutely love if rokas made a functional aikido art. Might have to add extra stuff to it though
I'll keep working on it. I don't doubt it will still take a long time until I will collect all the pieces and will also learn from people who have already tried making their Aikido functional
@@MartialArtsJourney an exciting journey :)
I really hope he can do it in a way where it's still Akido techniques
Rokas can’t do it because he not a good Aikidoist. It’s better for Rokas to relearn Aikido then try make it work.
"Persone who controls the distance, controls the fight"
And in the words of Rener Gracie,
"The person who manages the distance, manages the Damage"
Good quotes
This was maybe the...5th or 6th video of yours I watched, but probably my favorite because not only did it introduce me to Karate Nerd, but it also opened the floodgates on all the martial arts videos I've been binging since. Its making me want to get back into training. You two reignited the passion in this lapsed artist.
Excellent video. Love watching both of you guys and this was excellent.
On Round 1 one thing I noticed is you are constantly moving forward trying to grab Jesse. You should be mixing up your movement more and be more defensive picking your moments to clinch when Jesse is trying to close the distance. As you said in theory Aikido works best with overcommitment you need to frustrate Jesse with defensive movements to get him to over commit. Which is easier said then done.
great point. I was confused by this man's continuing attempts to close and fight. It's like he wants to be a Wing Chun or Karate master using Aikido moves. Perhaps this disharmony within him is why he struggles with Aikido.
@@upyurz5272 No this is pretty common approach for Grapplers when fighting against a significantly better striker they start hunting for the takedown. Take Ronda Rousey against Holly Holm for example.
Jesse did not really attaCk
That MMA training is showing dude... nice sparring. What a difference from your old videos LOL. Such growth holy shit!! I am not sure why you did not incorporate striking however? Why limit your side, Aikido needs all the help it can get. Heck, that seems to be the ridiculous part of it really, the fact that you just have to move in with no striking! You are at a disadvantage against any form of fighting, forget it against a trained Karate guy. Know what I mean?
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Thanks! I'll do my best to show even more progress over time
What advice would you give to someone who practices judo or bjj and plans to win without striking?
It might be that striking can bait the opponent into a certain body position or angle so he can use aikido.
@@BDG.99 I’m no expert, though I do train in both striking and Judo and that would be my preference for dealing with a street altercation. I’d say to strengthen your grip and learn to block/check strikes.
Kicks n punches are allowed in Aikido even as Jesse reveals throws n take downs are permitted in original Okinawa karate
Really enjoyable, well made video. Thanks for the upload.
A collab I’ve been waiting for!! 🙌🏽
I’m not an Akido practitioner but I love what you’re doing with it. Taking what can work and trying to expand on it is what I wish more people were doing with traditional styles.
Challenge for Rokas; Take up "old skool" judo training. there are approaches to your aikido Wazza yet for you to discover as you still have not learn to flow. Not BJJ this is to Ne-Wazza focused, but still great stuff and it's awesome you got stuck in with BJJ no doubts there at all. Honestly really impressed with your work in this video and jesse is so awesome, just that passion man. so yeah there are some great judokas out there that can show you the path like say Shintaro Higashi if you want to walk it.
I think he said he's gonna do Judo soon based on a poll from us here on youtube. If he does that, I think type of stand up grappling sparring goes much differently. Judo does teach really good footwork.
@@kovenmaitreya7184 Awesome to hear cause i really hope he does, as a judoka first and foremost I agree (yep im biased towards judo lol). I do believe Rokas can be one of the key figures that brings Aikido into the 21st century He needs to learn to flow though, the footwork is definitely a big part of that but it's more about posture,positioning,form,tempo, pacing, control, judgement, commitment, reacting not just predicting all while in motion to maintain fluidity of movement for full impact. which you means you need to work on grips, breathing control, spatial awareness, balance, uchi mata, break falling. training like this teaches you how to learn to feel for you opponents movement and motion itself becomes second nature not just moving your feet. learning to flow like this is unique to judo in particular, he's missing that granular judo mindset that would make his Aikido techniques work much better. That aside boxing/kick boxing Muay thai is just savage just because of conditioning and sparing/training regiments lol, personally i think everybody should train in at least 1 of these seriously at least once in there lives if they can, just for humility sake. thing is you can pair up any system really but it whether you personally can make that combination work, so something like karate is going to be a big depends but definitely not a no when combining with judo. which is going to rely on you and the style you train in as some are definitely more complimentary than others like say Wado-Ryu which overlaps with ju-jitsu of all things so you can see why already.
Thanks Jax. I'm going to try out Judo for the first time in a couple of months. I'll do a week long training with Chadi in France
@@MartialArtsJourney good Luck on the judo training, it's gonna be great, try also ju jutsu, not Brasilian but hako Ryu or daito Ryu, you'll love it !
waza*
I have just found your videos and I am super appreciative of your insight and application. Thank you.
Once again enjoyed this enormously. Also, this video was at the top of my feed this time 👍
first! big fan of the both of you!
Congrats :)
Man I love this team up.
Excellent: Concise, enjoyable, and a wonderful continuation of the journey we’ve seen!
Rokas looks in good form to me, and constantly improving with his video creation, not that I thought it has been lacking. Recommended!
Thank you Miles. Doing my best 😊 Happy to hear the results are enjoyable! Will continue to do my best with martial arts too
@@MartialArtsJourney For sure! Keep safe ~ and all the very best wishes for you both on your engagement!
Very good! I appreciate very much your honest research in what would turn aikido functional! Congratulations Rokas! 🙏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼✨
Big fan since the long hair days!
As someone who started out doing Aikido before transitioning to Karate, I've been through the same "Wow Aikido doesn't work," moment. It's really nice to see the difference between my two origin styles though.
Have you considered some sparing that incorporates all the striking elements with some of the practical Akido in order to test the validity of your 'Aikido way' as opposed to that of most Akido schools, which we know don't really work?
Also congratulations on the proposal!!!
Haha, the long hair days. I'm planning to keep exploring this subject. One of my next plans is to add strikes and to try it out with a less experienced fighter
@@MartialArtsJourney why not visit Christian Tissier school while in France, they use strikes there.. great people.
Why are you chasing him??? That is shitty aikido, you know shit about aikido. You should make him chase you, your aikido sucks and you don't know shit about aikido strikes, either...shomenate, aigameate, etc...you know shit about aikido.
@@MartialArtsJourney you should have no problem finding a 'less experienced' fighter than Jesse Enkamp....lol
You're basically doing what the OG masters did in modern times with aikido. This is pretty dope to see this evolution get documented for everyone to see even if it doesn't work out.
The two of you together, this is so cool!
Super, super cool! LOVED the joke at the start - "if it was an Aikido video". Brilliant! That japanese sensei that complained about your videos some time back is doing quite a lot of this kind of videos, with (complaint) MMA guys and stuff...
Jesse is a great guy! Like the exchange between you too! How to see more and more colabs with different ppl.
As always, appreciate your honesty! TY!
Absolute respect for these two incredible martial artists... And also ... This was fun :)
Glad you liked it Eduardo
I think Aikido (or Wrestling or Judo) is a great secondary style to know atop Karate.
Atemi-waza (or for karateka tsuki-waza) would be mainly modified karate techniques and setups to the Aikido.
Rokas should just complete the set: Aikido, BJJ, Karate, Judo, Jiu-jitsu, and Aiki-jujutsu.
Thank you for your honest and informative videos as always
great duo, loved it! make more
For Aikido to work against Karate (or striking/kicking in general) you have to see the punches coming and time them - as in timing your grab. To learn that you need to spar a lot! And you have to setup openings so you know where your opponent will strike you.
Jesse is right in one thing: the one who controls distance, controles the fight. But he forgets that the 2 key things that dominate fighting are: position and timing. Position includes distance, but also angles. Timing includes reading the rhythm of your opponent as well as changing your own rhythm to keep your opponent from timing you.
The scenario you’re describing (grabbing a punch and throwing) has been debunked a thousand times. It’s possible to grab a punch, but it’s impossible to hold on to it. Those are the facts…
@@ricksterdrummer2170 Grabbing a punch and throwing seems pretty unrealistic to me as well. I come from a boxing background and don't have much insight in Aikido techniques. If that's the only thing that Aikido does, then it's pretty much useless. And now that I think of it, yea I remember that Aikido is about using the motion of your opponent against him, right? That's indeed pretty impossible vs a trained striker/kicker.
But you can grab/catch or dodge and then move in to grab someone. Just like you see in MMA. But I think BJJ is a better sport to practice to learn that.
I'm just gonna put a "bro? lol", you are not in a position to educate Jesse Enkamp on fighting... come back to reality.
@@Ken_Jones if position and angles are practically under the umbrella term of distance then he is only forgetting the one thing being the timing part. Not the position
@@user-vr8ve6rt9c distance and angles are under the umbrella of position.
Very interesting! A long time ago I tried Aikido against a college wrestling champ and it went about the same except I got taken down and pinned. Then I went on to BJJ and MMA.
Glad to hear you made the transition
@@MartialArtsJourney I trained muay thai a good amount too but I still love my karate roots! That's why I love this channel
That's amazing, congrats, Rokas, congrats, Jesse. What's also amazing is to check the comments area and see Ramsey Dewey, Sensei Seth, hard2hurt, Fight Comentary Breakdowns. Y'know, I always watch you guys, but most on the TV, where there is no comment area. Cheers!
Great video. Great to see you and Jesse together in the same video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Idea for the next sparring. Get a Kendoka, put on some armor and then try Functional Aikido! In my oppinion levers make more sense in a weapon environment. Iam curious how that would end! :)
ruclips.net/video/apn6kDhDpBk/видео.html
Some of the best functional aikido examples out there are incorporating extensive use of atemi (striking) to manage the dynamics of the fight to break balance and apply a technique. Even Jesse pointed this out by saying that aikido is 90% striking. Rokas, in this sparring and your original MMA sparing video years ago, you threw out or didn't use atemi seemingly at all. Jesse never had a reason to break his posture avoiding a strike. This in conjunction with his controlling distance means game over.
Awesome video thank you!
This looked like it was totally fun 🤘
At "round 1" you almost got me, it all seemed to be too much perfect, like your opponent is completely incapable of making resistance, even just contracting his muscles or using his weight, but at the same time he his able to perform "mini jumps" to indulge your techniques... nice joke
Akido and even Karate, are martial arts. Most MMA fighters respect them as arts that they are, but no one expects any functionality out of them these days. Nothing wrong with that.
Considering the fact that there are so many UFC champions who are and/or were karatekas and taekwondokas, I beg to differ.
Aikido is an art which cannot be applied to real combat, except when you're fighting an inexperienced fighter.
Perhaps with a combination of techniques from other arts, Aikidokas could potentially fight experienced fighters, but using old-school Aikido - no way.
@@Vishonov MMA stands for mixed martial arts. Meaning.. if you take both the power from karate and the grappling from bjj into your style, you are no longer doing karate or bjj, your are doing MMA. I meant that traditional martial arts alone aren't not viable in the modern fighting world.
Great content! Great journey!
Thanks Stefan
@@MartialArtsJourney
This is great video...respect.
Hey, great video. Just a question. If Aikido's founder said that Aikido was 90% striking then what happened to the striking in the modern forms? Is it absent or ommited. We never see much regarding striking when Aikido is mentioned. It would be interesting to hear what changed and when as well as why.
I've read somewhere on YT comments (so give it the benefit of the doubt) that Ueshiba admitted only veteran fighters to his teachings, so supplementing their knowledge and experience with aikido techniques could make sense. Aikido as an add-on could be useful, knowing how to strike. Learning aikido as a standalone "fighting" martial art for self defence is almost a suicide, this is obviously my opinion as a former aikido student (rather bad tbqh). Learning aikido for its philosophy or interior peace is legit, tho.
I think it depends on your instructor. A friend of mine who studied aikido for years corrected my assumption that there was little striking in aikido by explaining to me that they are constantly striking. Fighting will always require striking, it's just the nature of fighting.
I thought he was dropping a hint to study O Sensei's teachings more directly. I personally have always thought there could be something lost in translation from his original teachings to how the art is taught in most schools today.
Yes. Yoshinkan schools teach the pre-WWII version.
Thank you for visiting Poland!
Both of you guys make great videos! I'm watching you for a couple of years.
Greetings from Polish Shorin-Ryu Karate student.
Great video. Informative.
Very interesting insights as always!
We train Aikido mixed with Kempo Jujutsu so you actually Strike, Kick and after a punch or kick has been successfully landed you might get a chance to take someone down or in a writst lock etc. But there‘s always a combination of strikes & kicks first or in between. Like in Kudo.
You might want to take a look at combining your kickboxing with your Aikido and see what happens :)
But all in all, I really enjoy these videos taking a look at your old martial art again.
Greetings!
Wait, kempo jujutsu? Do u mean kosho ryu?
@@md_f_dnn I‘ve stumbled across many different names for what we do, we call it Takeda Ryu since it has its origin in the Takeda family (Samurai era).
Basically it‘s a form of Aikido pre WW2 and pre Morei Ueshiba.
@@Nikoman531 well if that is the case then I don't think you're doing something that is called Kempo because the martial art that morihei ueshiba studied, founded by his teacher Takeda Sokaku, is known as daito ryu aikijujutsu, not Takeda ryu or kempo jujutsu, Takeda sokaku's grandson is still alive and teaching daito Ryu
@@md_f_dnn I think it‘s about the same, just somebody else put their label on it. Like with every martial art more or less ;)
@@Nikoman531 okay fair enough
I watched a video with french-japanese aikido teacher. According to him, shortly after the 2nd world war, many martial arts which could be used as a kind of weapon were totally forbidden in Japan by the US. In order to survive, Aikido was then transformed into a more passive form, with offensive techniques removed, and past history partially rewritten to make it look like a kind of self-defense technique. This has allowed Aikido to survive this period but as a different form. It was the first time I heard this but I find it interesting and really possible.
It's this video, around 24 minutes.
That's true
Not true at all. Karate was still practiced in Japan even after the Japanese surrender. Kendo which literally uses weapons were almost compulsory in schools. The American occupiers never interfered with what the Japanese were practicing. Just some load of crap to make ppl feel Aikido was effective at some point.
There's a famous theory that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki aikido's founder decided that martial arts are too destructive and went on to create a pacifistic martial art focused on personal development
Are you talking about Léo tamaki ? great vidéo with Greg MMA, Real cool guy
Thank you for your honesty
Lmao I love the thumbnail. You and Jesse’s videos are very Informative, so its nice to see a collab.
"setting himself up for frailer" "good against untrained fighters" good ways to cope with how much aikido sucks.
"The first thing you learn in Karate is distance management" - wrong....you learn a cocked punch in the side stance.
You learn to bow and respect your opponent, actually.
You learn how to put on the gi, actually.
You learn your instructor's name, actually
And let me just start that really old discussion... "Hikite" is NOT a cocked punch. Never was.
@@Plantaman there is no opponent in the first class
Striking sets up your Aikido. This is how we were taught in traditional Jujitsu. Great video.
Great video fellas
Wanderfull work rokas! We Need more of this! Keep It up 🔥🔥🥊🥋 Osū
Great video, really like both of you guys...
Glad you enjoyed the video
@@MartialArtsJourney I really like your work!
Also .... love the journey you are taking. Great videos.
Thanks love it. You are great.
Good work! Keep it up.
Interesting! Great of you to challenge your starter concept!
wow, great video and a great journey 👍👍👍
Thanks Albert!
I cannot help but admire your honesty..
Lovely video Rokas and Jesse well done
Thanks Carlos
i love your humility :) i just subscribed
This was very cool on many levels but I think one of the coolest things about it is just the camaraderie between 2 well known YT Martial Arts Vloggers and the openness of experimenting, working together and pressure testing your styles rather than just bashing each others Art which sadly seems to be the norm these days. KUDOS to you both! Ousu,
Quality content. Thank you to you both and the camera man (species)
Love the crossover!
Love these co-ops.
Very Nice collab!
Glad to hear you like it
Very interesting!!
Super funny and educational video!
First I found Jesse last year and became a fan of his humility and the approach he has to Martial Arts. Then found out today there's another Martial artist which in this case an Aikido master who shares the same approach to Martial arts as Jesse.
Instant sub and like. Don't get me wrong I neither do Karate or Aikido. Muay Thai instead but Jesse's approach has made me respect and want to pick up Karate. Now there are two great martial arts master I can follow.
The art itself is just a base the true essence of martial art is the individual's Journey. May your journey further your experience. You have my utmost respect as well sir.
That was a good video rokas, working with Jesse must have been a blast
Jesse is awesome
@@MartialArtsJourney yeah he's pretty cool, he's very open minded like yourself and appreciates cross training to better oneself, my jujutsu instructor is a big fan of his and yours as he started out with aikido in the 80s
I enjoy your openness to training & Jesses honesty in his critique.
I don’t know much about aikido specifically outside of what I’ve seen online/in movies & might be way off with my thoughts here, but I think I like idea of being aikido-ish with my martial arts in the sense that after years of training I’m essentially drilling my “go to” techniques into a handful of moves for any one area, refining my preferred strikes, , takedowns, submissions & sweeps ect as much as possible rather than learning “all” of the techniques and being less proficient at all of them.
Hopefully that makes sense.
Keep up the vids, it’s a valuable juxtaposition from the usual content on RUclips 🤙🏻🥋
i think you are an amazing teacher. you teach people how to be humble, to learn and to grow. to enjoy the journey, to think with an open mind and find the lessons in all outcomes. athough you can not apply a lot of what you learned in akido vs other martial arts styles and it may not be what you initially thought it was it is very clear that what you did take away from it has helped shape you into this person you are today. It has made me realize that although a lot of it is not practical in a real fight akido can be an important part of a martial arts journey or simply taking the time to learn and understand each art and taking little bits from each thing along the way even if its just the philosophies behind it can only help you grow in this space.
this is so awesome
Awesome both of you very energizing :-)
Thanks :)
Great person and great youtuber.
It’s an honest assessment. Thanks for the demonstration.
Love all the experiments with aikido!
Great video
Awesome video! If you can, Would be amazing to see more videos like this. Maybe, trying your BJJ + Aikido knowledge in a sparring against other martial arts.
thanks for your vids they are extremely good
Thank you
I love how both practitioners are very humble and respectful of each other's martial arts. At the end of the day, it's not the martial arts that matter but the ones that are practicing them.
Good video, great channel
Thank you Tyler
What an amazing video
Glad you liked it Hector