New gyrocopter - Nisus Aero
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2021
- Nisus Aero's new gyrocopter with Rotax 915 power. See them at Aero Friedrichsafen in July or visit their website at Nisus Aero.
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8:23 I'm also pleased to hear that the turn signals are cooperating with the hulls. This is a highly efficient design strategy!
8:11 I'm pleased to hear that the turn signals are strong and stable. That's very important!
full credit for impressive design - didn't see that one coming! Here's hoping for a safe breakthrough in engine cost next. Good luck nisus!
Looks nice though.
Great Design' and Sweet Looking Gyro! Truly Great Forward Thinking! The Future Is Great For Gyro! 💠 Blessings Always!
Very clever design.
I've got just under 3 hrs in Gyro back in the 80's. WOW it didn't look like this beautiful bird, the ones I flew were pretty much a dirt bike with 2 props.
I would love one if my body wasn’t so knackered with working outside 6 days a week, maybe in another lifetime. Gyrocopters are amazing pieces of kit. Fly safe everyone...
The fact that the bubble opens upwards means that you can't get out if the thing tips over in an emergency landing.
That is very good point Jeroen and something that is a cause for concern with the UK AAIB and the AutoGyro Calidus model.
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 surely the hammer to break the glass is suitable
Yes could do - but you know the AAIB are not that happy with this solution in Calidus I've had conversations with their investigators about the suitability and they would prefer it if the CAA made a more onerous test for the certification process. In truth trying to break out of the canopy having had an accident with something akin to a toffee hammer and I don't think it would work out well tbh.
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148Really - unless the machine ended up completely inverted (unlikely unless the mast snapped off) this would not be an issue as on its side the canopy could be opened.
When it comes to the Calidus, this is a problem if it rolls onto its left side.
It is quite easy in fact to break the canopy to escape and I speak from direct experience of this.
I can confirm that the Calidus canopy was very easy to break in order to escape when I crashed and tipped onto the left side.
It may look like a toffee hammer but it is actually a well designed tool to break a canopy/windscreen and if necessary cut seat belt restraints.
I think in fact the real life safety issue would be trying to safely ditch in the water.
@@tomgalloway4891 Hi Tom, yes I hear you but as you can see from the last page of this report the concern remains. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5aa7e1db40f0b66b625e2b0e/Rotorsport_UK_Calidus_G-CIYU_04-18.pdf
It is definitely a step up from my Benson Bm8 90hp Mac engine.
Any idea why last word of company promotion is... gyroscope??
Of my many years watching the development of gyros, it's common for a past design to be re-badged as 'the next big thing's from companies.
Sure, it's great to see the development on-going, however to see a design re-morphing is the " everything old has become new again" scenario.
As much as designers try to put a 'new sleek' spin on the design. The flight fundamentals remain the same. It has to lift its own body into the air to fly safely.
This is a Rotorvox MkII, as you correctly described.
I really like this and would consider changing my Calidus 914. This is side by side and has the same Vne as my current model which I like very much.
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Great Model ,, Fiberglass Rotors ??
"in door flight openings"?? In flight door openings is what you intended to say?? 😜😂😂
I don't suppose you could give us the name and contact details of the Chinese motor manufacturer you mentioned in the video?
I've not heard of them, but would like to check them out.
Hello John. I'm unconnected but from my own efforts with google I see Zhongshen aero engines. facebook.com/ZSAeroEngine/ from there you find Zonsen Industry,Zone, Banan District, Chongqing, China / +86 187 0238 9580 / aero@zsengine.com / en.zsaeroengine.com. They have produced a manual here:- www.zsengine.eu/Manuals/C100-F%20Installation%20Manual.pdf My own personal view is that it will at some point be accepted and then why would you not buy one? After all it is highly likely the factory can make things to as good a tolerance as anything in Western factories if they choose it.
Very similar (copy??) than the Rotorvox C2A
I wonder why Gyrocopters have not tried the more efficient’Duke’ engine from New Zealand
Reminds me of a "Bond Bug"......should be orange....
Organic glass! It's a plastic...
A bit like transparent Aluminium !
pone girocopter significa que despega como helicóptero? si carretear es un autogiro Ud. no lo aclara ni me muestra su despegue.
hola no esto es un autogiro por lo que despegará como tal. No podrá despegar verticalmente ni flotar.
This is a great design. Pay NO attention to the suggestion of a cheap Chinese engine. Stay with Rotax. Its tried and tested with reliability. This aircraft deserves an engine that matches the quality of the build.
Hey Mike - I don't necessarily disagree with the view that the aircraft looks to have some good qualities and for now the Rotax motor is tired and tested... BUT... if i were a manufacturer of gyroplanes in 2021 I'd be looking to source a cheaper power unit and Zongshen make one. Is it any good? I've no idea but there is no reason it can't be and when you consider that any light sport aircraft cost is 50% motor that is nuts.
Here is a very popular European sport fixed wing and its price list: -www.skyranger.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Brochure-and-price-list-Swift2-and-Nynja-V15-sept17.pdf
I just don't get the negative sentiment if that inc. VAT price become £9000, making the total price of that aircraft with motor £30k - what is not to like? On the basis that a basic open 2 seat gyroplane shouldn't cost anymore than a Skyranger again what isn't to like if someone makes a reliable cheaper power unit from whatever country?
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 Get a Chinese moped. You will know the deference without taking a major risk.
I'd love to have a gyroplane but I can't justify something that costs almost as much as a house.
....Приветствую Вас. Интересно сколько стоит эта красота ?
c.Euro 93K
Half price motor? Yep, and there is a reason for that. 👍
Hey - I guess it comes down to cheaper labour and lower margin tbh. I woke up this morning and read this:- www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57504052
I therefore find it utterly ridiculous to think that the Chinese can not build an effective 4 cylinder 4 cycle petrol combustion engine.
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As a Gyroplane pilot since 1985 I have a couple of thoughts here ; first the enclosure is typical for just about any European designed aircraft (RW or FW) in that it’s probably great for crappy European weather but you would find it pretty insufferable for much of the U. S. save coldest winter. That little sliding vent on the side does you zero good while waiting on a ramp for takeoff and not that much better inflight. Imagine being cooped up in there in Arizona or worse still Florida.
Second, “Why don’t they use the Chinese engine” - because it’s a Chinese engine ! If it’s anything like some of my HarborFreight power tools I believe I’ll wait a bit to see how it fares.
Hey hope you are well. Yes 100% agree on the cockpit heat and I wonder if a neat design hear could be an intermediate catch that holds the canopy open at a mid position while on the ramp.
On China I take the general point and no doubt the proof of the pudding will be in the eating although I'd make this more general observation. In the UK we have a variety of big hitting universities. Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial College and Bristol for those that didn't pay attention and missed a place at the others. Chinese students are a big feature in these places and lets be frank will be in US Ivy league too. The Chinese are not backward people and we tend to "fear" or reject them in the West mainly because we don't go on holiday there or understand them widely. If the Chinese want to make a Rotax type GA motor then it can be even better if they are motivated that way.
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 >>> FWIW: I have *no problem whatsoever* with _the Chinese people._ That said, _the Chinese government is communist,_ and THAT will ALWAYS be an issue.
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 You don't understand Chinese mentality. In manufacturing, number one objective is to save money. This will get you killed. Do you know what will happen if someone die because of engine failure? Think about it for a moment.
You are back to LOW audio, what happened?
I didn't notice this end - maybe I was just talking too quietly?! All the same gear... although still no idea!
Rotax IS OVERPRICED and I would think are pricing themselves out of the business. They have already priced themselves out of my price range and many others I would think. They are leaving the door wide open for other engine manufacturers to steal a large portion of the market with a high quality yet reasonably priced engines.
I feel China is no different than any other country whether it's the U.S., U.K. or Germany etc.... They can produce top quality products that last and perform well or they can produce the use once (if your lucky) and throw away level of quality.
The engine would just have to be thoroughly tested to see where it stands.
Do you feel the same way about Chinese mopeds. Why don't you buy one and ride for a couple of years.
You always have to pay more for the best.
Not sure you appreciate how bad Chinese engines are. All their motorcycle engines are at the bottom of the scale when measured against the European oil contamination test. So much off the scale in fact that they are not reliable and for aircraft think that would mean not safe. I can’t remember the test name but Germans run top, UK mid section then the lower 3rd is occupied by Japanese and Italian yet the difference between them is minuscule parts per million of what ever contaminants they measure in the oil but!!! the Chinese engines are so bad the test equipment can not even measure the sample.. Maybe this is why.
Hey Paul - I'm not sure that its apples with apples however. I might agree that a $200 Honda 125cc motorbike copy has some limitations but the bottom line is that [as the carbon work in this Slovak aircraft is a guide] the modern factories in these countries are first rate and the people are super clever. I do hear your point BUT I should think that if they wish to make something that is up to the job then they certainly could and I think if they do that why would anyone buy a Rotax? Lets be honest if a GA aircraft flies 50hrs a year then its a lot and so in 10 years your £40K 915 Rotax effectively costs £80 per hour! Think about that!
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 Unfortunately not just a 200 quid scooter engine. The contamination test is VDA 19 and there is an iso standard test as well but don’t know it. Test reports for all kinds of Chinese engines commonly show they come engineered with added plastic, fabric, sand and a myriad of other particles commonly found on a production line.. Though you do get them for free. 😉
I believe with the Chinese engineering it boils down to poor foundry practices. Not using good quality materials to start with. As with all producers of engines, there was a evolution timeline in respect to product quality.
@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUkPaul I used to turn and machine turbocharger bearing housings, at odd times I'd machined compressor covers and much earlier when to be fair I when would not have known what I was looking at turbine housings. We ended up 2006ish buying in Chinese and Indian components. I never got to know the figures if they were run through a CMM machine, but I assume they must have been satisfactory I was doing some assembly work at the time. The surface finish on some of this stuff was absolutely excellent though. The thing that pissed me off was that with bearing housings we had a type of bearing housing where near the oil return the machining at that point left 1 or 2 cast projections. In house, we had to use a bar or file to break these off, then a few strokes with a file to clean the surface up. The bought in components didn't have these peaks removed. So if they were adequate then we had our in house machinists performing to a standard above specification.
Yet another film talking bollocks about CNC machining. If you don't monitor the cuts of different tools it will all run away from you, and you will just produce shit. Too many times when I was starting off did I focus on my perceived problem and something else had moved and all I made was scrap!
Haha yes it make for interesting reading is this mainly automotive applications? In the UK I think (but happy to be wrong) that only the MG brand is solo Chinese auto sold in the UK. Of course Morris Garages turns in his grave but at the price they seem to do a job. I should try and get a Chinese Rotax and fly it around see how it performs - I suspect that will be the only route to longer term acceptance is when one manages to fly x hrs without issue.
How much is?
www.nisus-aero.com/gyroplane-nisus/
I'd rather pay extra then buy anything from China if I have the option.
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Stick to the Rotax.
Too dark video
Why don't they use the cut-rate Chinese engine? ...I guess they value their lives?
The craft looks good, but the promotional video is not. It doesn't show it take off or land, which of course everyone wants to see. And the manufacturing scenes look staged. Do they real do precision work in a half lit shop? The lighting looks more theatric than functional. Then, he ends it by saying "gyroscope" instead of gyroplane or gyrocopter. The whole thing made me cringe.
Well I hear you but I guess given they were trying to do a more 'artsy' promo film the things were staged and the lighting was half lit and theatric. Otherwise its just Bob in a shop with some machinery. Thats fine too but they are just trying to make something watchable for a wider market.
The narrator has never flown in one, sat in one nor seen one live yet says "...it seems a well engineered machine...". This video is an advert.
?? Err no it isn't. Why do I need to fly something to suggest it looks well engineered? I have eyes in my head and I can physically see some nice elements and others of nice design - like the rear deck that allows access to the motor. I get that the internet allows people to make comments but come on at least be generous to reflect that this channel is brutally honest about all things and I'm not beholden to anyone or anything when it comes to the comments.
Copy !!!!! und vor allem ....viel zu teuer !!!
Ja, ein sehr häufiges Problem bei modernen Gyroplanes!
@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 nein - kein problem .... ist nur ein teurer Traum .
Cheap Chinese engine? I'll buy one when I'm tired of living.
Chinese?NO THANK YOU .Bye.
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Recorded in the dark? What the heck? They are hiding all close viewing. What crap. Don't waste your time.
I think since this film was made there have been aircraft out in production