@@shanewatts1891 yeah, it's vs a single target, but the content isn't designed in a way that really makes up for it imo. They simply do not make us fight enough enemies to justify a difference of 2 orders of magnitude
@@ReaperCet Huh, I understand your take. Generally I feel the opposite, most of the the content in the game needs aoe in some form and rarely does an enemy last long enough for big damage. The only time you do need big damage imo is colossus fights.
@@shanewatts1891 killing trash mobs is easy, the game doesn't time you on how fast you can kill trash mobs. Content isn't locked behind the killing of trash mobs. Being good at mobbing isn't a good trade off for doing 100 times less damage in boss fights imo. I think they should just make his turret damage scale off of his firearm attack. Then you can make him tanky, focus on getting good weapons and everything works in harmony and managing his turrets isn't a DPS loss vs single targets.
I play jayber as a support descedant / dps for intercepts or general use. The turrent engineer basically bolsters his up time for the turrents including enhanced. Mainly you want just medical turrent for tanking/ healing hence why turrent enginner is good, so you can keep taunt up. I wouldn't even use maximizing skill mod, as uptime is way more important over time.
I think his best mod is turret engineering now. Attacking compulsion is good for the extra damage but i can make up for that with a gun, and basically press his 3rd skill off cooldown.
@@BoredAndBrowsing Yeah I’m not sure, I never really used the 3rd skill when running Attacking Compulsion and still can use my gun. I’ll probably give turret engineering some more time and see if I like it, but its real hard to break away from double turret atm.
Turret engineering is way good now. It’s basically instant hp buff, duration refresh, and enhancement of all turrets instantly. And most boss fights people want heal turret
@@48acemen57 in this video I am using Non-Attr and Dimension gold bonus damage. I have found that the bonus vs X is a larger bonus for turret damage if you are fighting the right target.
@@shanewatts1891 I have a Gold non and unfortunately a blue colossus the only thing is I hit 70-90k on grunts so on this test were you using the reactor specific enemy ?
Im trying to figure out how is it that your turret is normal hitting for 90k plus. I have the same mods as you and mine hit for less than half that. Im truly lost.
Yep, and the turrets make it easy to focus on whatever the puzzle is. Also the enhanced damage ring will reveal a whole pylon for the drone defense one.
@@shanewatts1891 Sweet, I love my Jayber and didn't want to resort to a Bunny or whatever to be effective in invasions so going to keep upgrading my Jayber.
Yeah its kind of a let down, but he is still great at most of the content in the game. I am gonna be pushing Invasions soon, so hopefully that goes well.
@@shanewatts1891 too many people are hung up on doing "OmG HuGe DpS Hrrrr DEerRR". i think jayber is a unique playstyle and just because it doesnt blow up the screen i think its worth a try. Gona unlock him later today and see. Cant be worse than esiemo or blair.
In this video I have an Order of Truth enemy in the Lab, because they have zero Non-Attribute Resistance, which makes it easy to work with the damage formula.
as a jayber main...this "fix or buff" is a joke...how can they release a new descendant who can 1 rotation an intercept boss with ZERO investment but cannot fix an OG descendant that IS FULLY INVESTED...$$$$$$$$$$ thats why...jayber brings no value so screw him
@@imprezv Certainly a buff. As written the passive gives Jayber a firearm/skill power buff when both turrets are summoned. Have both turrets out get the buff. If you unsummon a turret to summon a new one or use reactivate, lose the buff. Which meant skill power buff wise it only increased the damage of the maintenance gun skill, which was terrible and basically useless. So since the passive worked as written, the devs changing the buff to also be on the turret is an improvement of the skill, aka buff.
Dude they fixed nothing. They just made it work as intended. Compared to any other toon. He’s the weakest bunny aoe dies 1.8 million a tick. And ur jayber is doing max of 50k a tick. lol. With a maxed out toon wow sad. He can’t do bosses or adds. I might quit because bunny or epic can do everything why play other classes that are so behind other top classes.
I think you might be overreacting here. He does every non colossus content quickly and easily, and can solo colossus like most descendants. Group colossus wise he is def outclassed, but the turrets are pretty good vs obstructor orbs.
@@shanewatts1891 on group on my meme jaber i just use double heal turret and stand there and shoot now with the 20% buff ill hit harder. can do any boss aside from gluttony really.
@@shanewatts1891 bro nobody solo bosses they only have 15 million health on group bosses ur looking at 150 million hit points and they one shit the torrent. Wtf you talking about. You are a noob. Get to max end game fighting molten or the newest boss. They are useless. You are a noob.
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Meanwhile, Hailey is hitting 10.8 million with incomplete investment day one.
I need the devs to decide how much damage we're supposed to be doing.
@@ReaperCet is that 10.8 mil vs 1 target?
hailey is good at single target but outside boss fights she's mid. Not even close to characters like valby or gley
@@shanewatts1891 yeah, it's vs a single target, but the content isn't designed in a way that really makes up for it imo.
They simply do not make us fight enough enemies to justify a difference of 2 orders of magnitude
@@ReaperCet Huh, I understand your take. Generally I feel the opposite, most of the the content in the game needs aoe in some form and rarely does an enemy last long enough for big damage. The only time you do need big damage imo is colossus fights.
@@shanewatts1891 killing trash mobs is easy, the game doesn't time you on how fast you can kill trash mobs. Content isn't locked behind the killing of trash mobs.
Being good at mobbing isn't a good trade off for doing 100 times less damage in boss fights imo.
I think they should just make his turret damage scale off of his firearm attack. Then you can make him tanky, focus on getting good weapons and everything works in harmony and managing his turrets isn't a DPS loss vs single targets.
I play jayber as a support descedant / dps for intercepts or general use.
The turrent engineer basically bolsters his up time for the turrents including enhanced. Mainly you want just medical turrent for tanking/ healing hence why turrent enginner is good, so you can keep taunt up. I wouldn't even use maximizing skill mod, as uptime is way more important over time.
Yeah the cooldown increase for Maximize Skill/Power is way too much to use.
I think his best mod is turret engineering now. Attacking compulsion is good for the extra damage but i can make up for that with a gun, and basically press his 3rd skill off cooldown.
@@BoredAndBrowsing Yeah I’m not sure, I never really used the 3rd skill when running Attacking Compulsion and still can use my gun.
I’ll probably give turret engineering some more time and see if I like it, but its real hard to break away from double turret atm.
Turret engineering is way good now. It’s basically instant hp buff, duration refresh, and enhancement of all turrets instantly.
And most boss fights people want heal turret
I was so looking forward to using Jayber more this update and switching between him and Blair. But Blair buffs are ridiculous at full investment
Jayber is still good in most content of the game, but yeah a little more of a boost would have been nice.
I didn't notice any difference in my Jayber
Yeah, unless you are/were using Skill Power Modifier mods, the only change is the passive boosts turret damage now.
Only question I have to ask is what’s your reactor setup ?
@@48acemen57 in this video I am using Non-Attr and Dimension gold bonus damage. I have found that the bonus vs X is a larger bonus for turret damage if you are fighting the right target.
@@shanewatts1891 I have a Gold non and unfortunately a blue colossus the only thing is I hit 70-90k on grunts so on this test were you using the reactor specific enemy ?
@@48acemen57 nope, just gold non-attr and gold dimension bonus
So I pretty much have the same build as you but for some reason my turrets are doing almost 30k less damage and I'm not entirely sure why.
When you are comparing damage, are you fighting an Order of Truth enemy?
@@shanewatts1891Yeah I am
@@Xan-DRK if you are using the same mods, then the only thing left is reactor and slayer set.
Im trying to figure out how is it that your turret is normal hitting for 90k plus. I have the same mods as you and mine hit for less than half that. Im truly lost.
Order of Truth enemies have zero Non-Attribute resistance, are you fighting Order of Truth enemies when you compare?
@@shanewatts1891 ahh. Im not sure. I'll look into that.
Are you able to run this build solo in invasions?
Yep, and the turrets make it easy to focus on whatever the puzzle is. Also the enhanced damage ring will reveal a whole pylon for the drone defense one.
@@shanewatts1891 Sweet, I love my Jayber and didn't want to resort to a Bunny or whatever to be effective in invasions so going to keep upgrading my Jayber.
Very disappointed jayber main here
Yeah its kind of a let down, but he is still great at most of the content in the game. I am gonna be pushing Invasions soon, so hopefully that goes well.
@@shanewatts1891 too many people are hung up on doing "OmG HuGe DpS Hrrrr DEerRR". i think jayber is a unique playstyle and just because it doesnt blow up the screen i think its worth a try. Gona unlock him later today and see. Cant be worse than esiemo or blair.
@@yoteslaya7296 hah, glad to hear you are giving Jayber a try. He is hands down my favorite to play.
@shanewatts1891 it's because of your video I'm trying him so I should be thanking you 👍
@@yoteslaya7296Blair got a huge buff so he may be worst then Blair now.
how are you doing 94,000 a hit with one turret? I copied your exact mods and i'm nowhere near that damage. please help.
In this video I have an Order of Truth enemy in the Lab, because they have zero Non-Attribute Resistance, which makes it easy to work with the damage formula.
Thanks!!
Dam 3 months and still nothing great
@@legendarykiegamer2577 At least the passive increases Turret damage now, which is cool.
as a jayber main...this "fix or buff" is a joke...how can they release a new descendant who can 1 rotation an intercept boss with ZERO investment but cannot fix an OG descendant that IS FULLY INVESTED...$$$$$$$$$$ thats why...jayber brings no value so screw him
I also am disappointed, but legitimately the passive buff is nice.
@@shanewatts1891 buff? you mean actually making it work as intended?
@@imprezv Certainly a buff. As written the passive gives Jayber a firearm/skill power buff when both turrets are summoned. Have both turrets out get the buff. If you unsummon a turret to summon a new one or use reactivate, lose the buff. Which meant skill power buff wise it only increased the damage of the maintenance gun skill, which was terrible and basically useless.
So since the passive worked as written, the devs changing the buff to also be on the turret is an improvement of the skill, aka buff.
Dude they fixed nothing. They just made it work as intended. Compared to any other toon. He’s the weakest bunny aoe dies 1.8 million a tick. And ur jayber is doing max of 50k a tick. lol. With a maxed out toon wow sad. He can’t do bosses or adds. I might quit because bunny or epic can do everything why play other classes that are so behind other top classes.
wrong. both those characters cant do shit on molten onwards.
I think you might be overreacting here. He does every non colossus content quickly and easily, and can solo colossus like most descendants. Group colossus wise he is def outclassed, but the turrets are pretty good vs obstructor orbs.
@@shanewatts1891 on group on my meme jaber i just use double heal turret and stand there and shoot now with the 20% buff ill hit harder. can do any boss aside from gluttony really.
Someone needs to touch grass.
@@shanewatts1891 bro nobody solo bosses they only have 15 million health on group bosses ur looking at 150 million hit points and they one shit the torrent. Wtf you talking about. You are a noob. Get to max end game fighting molten or the newest boss. They are useless. You are a noob.