1964 Plymouth Valiant vs Ford Falcon & Mercury Comet

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @orange70383
    @orange70383 5 лет назад +14

    You had me at 2 door stops, everybody on my street will be jealous when I pull up to the end of my driveway and get out of the car to check the mailbox. I'll make it a point to leave the door open just halfway when I get out and I'll take a good long time looking over the mail before I get back in the car just to let that dual door stop sink in, oh it'll drive em bananas.

  • @teresa67factoid95
    @teresa67factoid95 5 лет назад +10

    I am hooked.
    No wonder I still have my 63 signet convertible

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh 2 года назад +2

    We had a 1965 Falcon Futura 2-door hardtop for decades and I drove it repeatedly, so a lot of these pictures certainly look familiar.

  • @lonewanderer3603
    @lonewanderer3603 5 лет назад +14

    I'll have the Comet for style alone.

  • @melrose9252
    @melrose9252 6 лет назад +19

    I would have chosen the Comet Caliente!

    • @josephgaviota
      @josephgaviota 5 лет назад +2

      Those were HOT.
      (And that's not a pun, they really were hot!)

    • @johneddy908
      @johneddy908 10 месяцев назад

      Comet also had a version that had no equal on Falcon to the best of my knowledge - the Comet Cyclone.

  • @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus
    @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus 6 лет назад +6

    All of the main features touted here - the two-stop door checks, the three speed automatic transmission, and the alternator, were included on the 1965 Falcons and Comets. Of all three, the Comet was the fastest car available with the Super Cyclone K code 220 HP 289 4V engine, and the C4 three speed automatic or a 4spd manual. Smoked the others with the 260 or 273 V8 options. I'm a Falcon/Comet guy, but I do like Mopar engineering, and the 170/225 sixes were very good engines.

    • @tomservo56954
      @tomservo56954 5 лет назад

      And in 1965, Chrysler made a heater and defroster standard on all models

    • @mrdanforth3744
      @mrdanforth3744 2 года назад +1

      1964 up Valiant, Dart and Barracuda offered their first V8, the 273 in 180HP or 235HP .

    • @vernanderson4358
      @vernanderson4358 11 месяцев назад

      Interesting to note they did not compare these cars to one car in particular. It was faster in performance,better ride quality,far superior in braking,and had more interior room than any shown. Studebaker

  • @sonnybeach1953
    @sonnybeach1953 6 лет назад +13

    I'd take the Falcon Futura with the 260 ci V8 vs. a Valiant with a slant six that costs $36 less. They don't tell you that the Futura package includes lots of trim and goodies that the Valiant doesn't have for that price.

    • @justenough730
      @justenough730 6 лет назад +5

      jerry but it's still pos Ford product

    • @packingten
      @packingten 4 года назад +1

      The slant 6 wud outrun the Falcon that 260 ran okay but not very quick,that sl 6 was a monster

  • @rickloera9468
    @rickloera9468 6 лет назад +8

    Keep in mind that the reason that Valiant sales were so high is because first. Brand new model. New body style. Their is typically renewed interest in most cars when the car is all new. Plus the 1962 Plymouth Valiant was on its third and final year for the old body style. Plus the original Valiant was quite different style wise then most cars. Kind of love it or hate it. I happen to love the first generation Valiant. The 1963 was not only all new, it was alot more conventional in its styling. Therefore, yes much increased sales over Ford and Mercurys older car line.

    • @roya.cathcartjr.5042
      @roya.cathcartjr.5042 5 лет назад +6

      Also the 7% drop in Falcon sales for the 1964 year was due to the introduction of the much anticipated Mustang into the Ford line up.
      The young car buyers wanted the sportier looking Mustang over the stodgy family sedan business man coupe Falcons.

  • @Jody-kt9ev
    @Jody-kt9ev Год назад +1

    My wife's family had an early 1960s Valiant. According to her, it was a very good car. I have a 1963 Falcon. Overall, I think the Valiant had the better engine, the slant six. The problem with the Falcon six cylinder engine is that the intake manifold is built into the head. This makes it difficult to get the fuel/air mixture correct for all six cylinders. As to the push button transmission, that is a wash, this fad did not last. The 3 speed is better though. I have heard stories about how slow Falcons with the two speed transmissions are. Mine is a standard. As to the manual choke, I would consider that a feature not a problem. This is due to all the problems I have had with all the automatic choke in the Mustang II I bought new and still own.

  • @gcfifthgear
    @gcfifthgear 2 года назад +1

    The reason the Comet had more trunk space was because the Comet sedan had a 114" wheelbase and a stretched body shell based on the Falcon. Comet and Falcon wagons had 109-inch wheelbases...

  • @bartricky5894
    @bartricky5894 5 лет назад +4

    I had a 64 Comet Caliente they didn't mention the available 289 V8.
    It was a really nice driving car that could tow a sailboat.

  • @daleostrom3613
    @daleostrom3613 5 лет назад +9

    Let's not forget, even Ronnie Sox drove a very successful 64 Comet !! No Valiants in Ronnie's corral.

  • @RivetGardener
    @RivetGardener 3 года назад +2

    All three were stylish small cars for the time. The Mercury is a longer, larger car. A big selling point of the time, I would guess. I appreciate all the mechanical specs of the Valiant as well as their engineering features, but did buyers pay attention to this? Oh wow, a heater was optional on Valiant? Geez. Nice video, I liked watching it.

  • @naturalobserver1322
    @naturalobserver1322 11 месяцев назад

    My mom owned a 65 comet 404 in 66. That was one sweet ride. 😀👍

  • @the66volks
    @the66volks 5 лет назад +5

    I actually own a 1964 falcon great video!

  • @johnd8892
    @johnd8892 3 года назад +1

    Australia unusual for Valiant in that the only motor for the first three Chrysler Valiant models was the 225 slant six with 145 HP.
    First here with a V8 too.
    Ford and local GM Holden played catch up in the power race for quite a few years.
    Body styles diverging from 1963 too.

  • @StonedOli
    @StonedOli 6 лет назад +13

    I'll take the Falcon.

    • @blairberg1081
      @blairberg1081 6 лет назад +3

      Same

    • @RJC96cj
      @RJC96cj 4 года назад +1

      Yep

    • @MrSloika
      @MrSloika 11 месяцев назад

      I'd take the Falcon with a V8 and the manual. If I had to choose a car with an I6 I'd go with the Mopar.

  • @justenough730
    @justenough730 6 лет назад +7

    to me the 64 valiant still looks good today looks modern can you imagine if they modernized it a little a slant six with overhead cam crossflow head 6 speed manual that be a fun car for today but nah that'll never happen

    • @michaeltutty1540
      @michaeltutty1540 3 года назад

      The 64 Dart and Canadian Valiant looked better again to me, plus they had a longer wheelbase for more back seat leg room.

  • @georgebaird4921
    @georgebaird4921 2 года назад

    I've got a 64 comet, a lot of these cars were sent to Africa as endurance racers and you still see many comets and falcons out and about or on the race track

  • @tonyelliott7734
    @tonyelliott7734 4 года назад +3

    I like how the Valiant has 110mph on the speedometer and it was lucky to get to 80mph...lol

    • @Ikeebeabuchi
      @Ikeebeabuchi 11 месяцев назад

      IDK about that. I have a 68 fury 1, 2 door sedan with worn out 225 /6. I had it up to 90 a few weeks ago and still had some left. The valiant Is probably 6-700 lbs lighter

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp7742 6 лет назад +9

    Between the Falcon and the Comet, the Comet looks the best. But I find the Valiant better looking than either of them.

  • @merc-ni7hy
    @merc-ni7hy 6 лет назад +6

    funny how in the other video chrysler compared its engines both 6 and 8 to nova,,yet they never showed optional engines in this video....alot of this in nit picking... still fun to watch though

    • @flufanga
      @flufanga 6 лет назад +5

      Agree, The ad focuses on inessentials, when it should have legitimately addressed the real, tangible engineering superiority of the li'l Plymouth.

  • @rizzlerazzleuno4733
    @rizzlerazzleuno4733 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for posting these slide shows. The public rarely ever saw these things until now, gee a little late to help with our buying decision.....Wait, I'll take the 64 Dodge Dart GT. No wait, the 64 Chevy Nova SS.

    • @5610winston
      @5610winston 5 лет назад +1

      Studebaker Daytona Wagonaire with the R1 engine and overdrive, full super package.

  • @bertcushman7427
    @bertcushman7427 4 года назад

    all were good cars,when order at top end! I had a 64 v200 convertible, 225 inch 6,3 speed automatic.. no brainer.
    that car went through hell in high school! never let me down..

  • @williamfairchild8119
    @williamfairchild8119 Год назад

    I bought a 61 comet 6 cyl auto for $75 around 1973. It was a very good car did everything a car is supposed to do. I also had a v8 mustang convertible at the same time which was a great car also.

  • @freemarketjoe9869
    @freemarketjoe9869 2 года назад

    I would gladly buy any one of these cars if i could find one nearby these days at a good price. They all look great to me!

  • @joeseeking3572
    @joeseeking3572 2 года назад +1

    Valiant sales were up 65% in 1963 because it was in the tank in 62. The 60 Valiant design was trounced by the Falcon. It was Exner's take on 'European' and the US car buying public wasn't having it. The 63 redesign was a much better looking (or more conventional if you prefer) car. 60-63 Comet, despite selling decently - especially in 1960 - was somewhere in between. The 64 Comet was more of a senior compact and not really in the same class as the Valiant. Take a 64 Caliente 4dr against a V200 interior. No comparison. The best sedan buy might have been the Dart 270 - longer wheelbase, slightly plusher than the Valiant for very little money.

  • @AtZero138
    @AtZero138 5 лет назад +2

    Sold!! Valiant it is.. it will look great next to my 68 Dart.. Thanks Jesus Chrysler and Holy Mother Mopar..

    • @michaeltutty1540
      @michaeltutty1540 3 года назад

      Love the 68 Dart 270. Dart was on a longer wheelbase which made it a better family car. That lasted through the end of 1973 production. For 74, Valiant and Dart shared a body shell.

    • @AtZero138
      @AtZero138 3 года назад

      @@michaeltutty1540 ruclips.net/video/b4fa-bqAx80/видео.html
      You can both of Darts.. his and hers.. mines the white one that was originally green, and Hers was blue and she painted Black before we met haha.. both Cali built, both Model 270, here still Slant6 and mine is 318 swap.. my cars aren't to far into this slideshow maybe minute or two.. peace Mopar A Bodies Forever!!

  • @dfygoh3215
    @dfygoh3215 5 лет назад +1

    my first car 76 Nova, i had adjustable speed windshield wiper , i thought i had something new , no idea they were in 1964 cars

  • @karlsracing8422
    @karlsracing8422 4 года назад

    64 valiant 4 speed with a 360 is a beast! Originally had a 273.

  • @bertgrau9246
    @bertgrau9246 5 лет назад

    I drove a falcon with the 6 and 2 speed automatic to say it was slow would be an understatement.
    The 3 speed auto that the valiant used did help acceleration a lot. I would prefer the manual in any car especially a low horsepower engine

  • @davediamond9436
    @davediamond9436 Год назад +1

    i was 10 years old in 62 when i first heard this joke
    "what do you get when you cross a Valiant and a comet"
    answer : " a vomit"

  • @manonmars2009
    @manonmars2009 5 лет назад +1

    I was only 3 years old when these cars were manufactured, but let's just say if I could buy a new car at the time, I would have bought the Valiant.

  • @teresa67factoid95
    @teresa67factoid95 5 лет назад +1

    I am still driving my 63 signet convertible.

  • @falcon664
    @falcon664 Год назад

    I had a 64 Falcon convertible with the 170 cid six and 2 speed automatic. It desperately needed the 200 cid six and three speed automatic which were available later. I preferred the six over the V8.

  • @packardcaribien
    @packardcaribien 5 лет назад +1

    Notice how they ignore how base model prices compare, and don't discuss the optional engines fair.
    Though I gotta say it's pretty ridiculous that Ford charged extra for a lit gear selector. Of course, Chrysler charged extra for a heater....

  • @paulsheehan8185
    @paulsheehan8185 2 года назад +1

    no chevy ii?

  • @GamePlayWithNolan
    @GamePlayWithNolan 5 лет назад +5

    As someone who daily drives a Ford Falcon, I feel attacked by this lol

    • @joemackey1950
      @joemackey1950 5 лет назад +3

      Lucky you! I had a '65 Falcon, 2d, 200-6, 3s, only extra was heater/radio. Loved that car. It would go wherever I wanted, just slow and easy. Never any trouble till the end with elec. problems. Broke my heart having to sell it... Still miss it 40 years later.

    • @GamePlayWithNolan
      @GamePlayWithNolan 5 лет назад +2

      @@joemackey1950 That is awesome! Mine has the 170 6, 3 speed with just a heater and a radio! I love the thing. Sad you had to sell it, they were built very well.

  • @michaeltutty1540
    @michaeltutty1540 3 года назад +1

    Too bad they didn't include the Dodge Dart, as it was a better comparison to the Comet. Also, in Canada, Valiant used the Dart body, with its longer wheelbase, but with the Valiant front clip.

  • @Scooty_scoob
    @Scooty_scoob 6 лет назад +1

    You should do a video comparing the 1970 maverick, nova and duster or similar models

    • @mrHoppedupford
      @mrHoppedupford 5 лет назад

      I don't think this guy made this video

    • @michaelK3148
      @michaelK3148 5 лет назад

      Here you go. ruclips.net/video/L5nWUvROYF4/видео.html

  • @jimlesperance9971
    @jimlesperance9971 4 года назад +1

    i would take the mercury comet.i owned several them including a 427 powered comet capri.

  • @LearnAboutFlow
    @LearnAboutFlow 5 лет назад

    I know this was a different time, but it is shocking that by the 1960s a heater was still considered optional on a mass market consumer car.

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 5 лет назад

      Yeah and people in the 60s & 70s would think it absurd that 25-30 years you would have to purchase an extra cost "smoker's package" and there are no more vent windows to ash out of either

    • @blueboy7559
      @blueboy7559 5 лет назад

      i only had one car with out a heater 63 biscaine chevy came from florida none up north

    • @tomservo56954
      @tomservo56954 5 лет назад +1

      @@303nitzubishi4 Far fewer people smoke today

    • @tomservo56954
      @tomservo56954 5 лет назад

      @@blueboy7559Must have been a delete option...GM began making a heater and defroster standard on all 1962 models.

  • @fairfaxcat1312
    @fairfaxcat1312 5 лет назад +2

    This is a dealer information slideshow. The idea is to help the dealer sell the automobile. The dealer will be selling the Valiant. The car is a small economy automobile. It is no frills but it is relatively reliable. The more of these Valiant automobiles the dealer sells the more money everyone will make including the janitor in the garage to the bank who finances the automobiles in the dealer’s lot to the shareholders of the motor company back in Detroit. “Always be closing,” is the iconic line uttered by the Alec Baldwin character in the noir-like classic sales movie from the underworld entitled, “Glengarry Glen Ross.” Though Baldwin is a far-left Democrat socialist he plays a role in which he champions the kind of entrepreneurship the dealer needs to sell the Valiant automobile. Does this dealer information slideshow equip and motivate you to get ahead in your own career? At the very least it will better acquaint you with the Valiant and very possibly interest you in buying one.

  • @thomasdollard7971
    @thomasdollard7971 4 года назад +1

    The Mercury Comet was a step up from the Plymouth, more of competitor for the Dodge Dart. Was the Valiant really cross shopped with the Comet?

    • @michaeltutty1540
      @michaeltutty1540 3 года назад

      Dart was cross shopped more with Comet. In fact, in 72 when Ma was looking for a car, Valiant was ruled out because the shorter wheelbarrow meant less back seat room. With 3 of the 4 of us over 6 foot, that mattered.

  • @davidgoodwin6312
    @davidgoodwin6312 5 лет назад +2

    Valiant was better mechanically, but the Falcon and Comet were far better looking. Valiant just looked stodgy.

  • @kmyre
    @kmyre 2 года назад +1

    Valiant, aka why Chrysler ended up needing a bailout in 1979

  • @kmyre
    @kmyre Год назад +1

    It is easy to give 5 years drivetrain warranty, knowing your product will rust away in 3

  • @genedowns3484
    @genedowns3484 Год назад

    And the bullet proof 225 slant six 👍

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh 2 года назад

    This makes me wonder when Chrysler dropped pushbutton shifting.

  • @normhodgkinson6965
    @normhodgkinson6965 5 лет назад

    i have a Vega. does that count for anything ?

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah if it runs and drives and rusty chunks of it don't fall off every time you hit a bump I'd say that's gotta count for something

    • @normhodgkinson6965
      @normhodgkinson6965 5 лет назад

      @@303nitzubishi4 it runs very well with the 406 small block,
      and there is no rust. its a lot of fun to drive.

  • @fairfaxcat1312
    @fairfaxcat1312 6 лет назад +3

    And yet, model for model, Valiant is priced substantially lower.

  • @moeru1994
    @moeru1994 5 лет назад

    Valiant wins and i would take it. But i prefer riveted linings...

  • @petermata5488
    @petermata5488 5 лет назад

    i like the comet and i like the falcon 2 door not box or 4 door but i well pick the 1964 new plu plymouth barracuda then the valiant

  • @johngranato2673
    @johngranato2673 3 года назад

    Facts are facts. I never liked the second generation Falcon. I do like the Comet and Valiant. But unit sales don't lie. Sorry Mopar.

  • @leonotarianni7733
    @leonotarianni7733 4 года назад +2

    Interesting comparisons but very cunningly omitting some crucial points..... The rear legroom on the Falcon four door sedan is far better than Valiant and the Comet better again. In this comparison they have only compared the two door hardtop rear legroom which the Valiant is a two door coupe rather than a two door hardtop fastback which limits the Falcon ability to provide comparative legroom. Also, the Falcon and Comet wagon has a larger cargo area than the valiant wagon and the Falcon and Comet have far superior legroom front and rear plus it has more shoulder room. The Falcon is far more fuel efficient across the range. The Valiant does have an alternator which The Falcon did not have until around this vintage or the year later.
    The valiant auto was by far the better automatic transmission of any of its rivals. The Valiant also had better rear headroom than the Falcon and Comet.
    What is laughable is the selected statistics chosen.... Saying that the valiant has increased sales over the previous years whilst the Falcon and Comet have experienced a decline clearly omitting the more important fact is that the total overall sales of the Falcon is far greater than the Valiant ever was. And the Falcon decline is largely because of its increased competition from the senior compacts offerings from Oldsmobile and Pontiac.
    All three cars were better than the Chevrolet Corvair and on par with the Chevrolet II Nova

  • @fairfaxcat1312
    @fairfaxcat1312 6 лет назад

    Are the Valiant’s “variable speed” wipers the same as “intermittent” wipers? You may recall that Ford got into a big copyright fight with Bob Kerns over the latter and the movie, “Flash of Genius,” highlighted the story in great and dramatic detail.

    • @kennethsouthard6042
      @kennethsouthard6042 6 лет назад +2

      Chrysler had 3 speed (non intermittent for years) I think the first speed was really really slow.

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 6 лет назад +3

      Kenneth Southard And how can you forget the extra swipe all Chrysler Corporation wipers insist upon taking after you switch them off?

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 5 лет назад

      @@fairfaxcat1312 yeah the 80s GM J & N cars had that extra swipe too. May have been some other models with the same park cam that had to do a full rotation before engaging the "park" lever to put the arms all the way down

    • @drewthompson7457
      @drewthompson7457 Год назад +2

      Lucas, from England invented the intermittent wipers - not that they wanted too.
      They also invented intermittent lighting...

    • @falcon664
      @falcon664 Год назад

      They are not the same. Intermittent wipers sweep at a set speed but stop between sweeps and wait a given amount of time. Variable speed wipers continuously sweep, but you can select the speed of the sweep anywhere between the lowest and highest.

  • @jamesalford877
    @jamesalford877 3 года назад +1

    Why compare a Falcon to a Comet, when they're one of the same? I can understand the comparison of a Valiant, Falcon and Nova, but any Mercury was always to be considered an upgraded Ford.

    • @mrdanforth3744
      @mrdanforth3744 2 года назад

      I was surprised how much difference there was, as pointed out in this program. Comet got quite a few improvements for not a lot of money. Between Falcon and Comet, the Comet looks like a better buy even though it cost a few bucks more. My choice would still be Valiant or possibly Dart.

  • @oscarwalton1188
    @oscarwalton1188 5 лет назад +2

    I take any one of those car's but valiant was the better car hands down.

  • @timothychivers7602
    @timothychivers7602 4 года назад

    I would have chosen a falcon

  • @Truetoo102
    @Truetoo102 5 лет назад

    The Mercury is just a fancier Falcon.

  • @packingten
    @packingten 4 года назад +1

    The Valliant wud run RINGS around the others!!.

  • @jbj27406
    @jbj27406 11 месяцев назад

    Seems like this comparison should have been between Valiant, Falcon, and Chevy II, representing the three big car manufacturers in the same class of cars. Mercury is made by Ford. GM is not represented. Wonder why?

  • @greyowl750
    @greyowl750 5 лет назад +2

    2 words...slant 6

  • @wintersbattleofbands1144
    @wintersbattleofbands1144 2 года назад +1

    HA! Falcon and Comet are virtually the same car (The Comet was essentially a stretched Falcon). Notice there was no comparison with GM products... Oh wait. I see there's a video with Chevy II and Corvair..

  • @JustFunandGames
    @JustFunandGames 3 года назад +1

    The Valiant is also the goofiest looking of the three cars.

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 6 лет назад +2

    I own a Corvair, so what do I know. The Valiant is the best car of these three.

  • @JohnReitz-ps2ct
    @JohnReitz-ps2ct 6 месяцев назад +1

    Soend a few dollars more for a Dodge Dart...much better looking than the stubby Valiant.

  • @renegades5502
    @renegades5502 4 года назад +2

    I have a 1964 comet cyclone is much better looking car 100%

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 3 года назад +1

    More lies...further apart controls is WORSE not better,

  • @blairberg1081
    @blairberg1081 6 лет назад +1

    so nit picky

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 6 лет назад

      Blair Berg Lol.

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 6 лет назад

      Blair Berg Was a comparison made of the ease with which a child’s training pants’ fudge could be cleaned from the seats?