Te is Te and Se is Se. You cant be Te on mbti and Se on socionics. This relativism just break the entire idea of an expressive tipology that can be observed. Different descriptions of a type between socionics and mbti maybe can be explained by cultural diferences of Eastern and Western; And so author X or Y. In the end, or you stick with one theory or other.
You got me completely charmed with your fluency and knowledge. The historical examples of great men of power and philosophers got me totally hooked. Also, you made the Se+Ti dynamic seem so admirable and fascinating my eyes are all sparkly. Please keep more of these coming.
In all honesty i wish i was this not a estp, but my version of it.I see that i am reaching it more and more as time goes at least situationally nevertheless this is the people i tend to be attracted to and look for help or who tends to pick on me but end up helping me
As an ISTP, I relate well to everything you suggested, great observations, although to add, Ni plays a very influential role in my formulation and formalisation of ideas. Ni constantly reminds me to consider lots and lots of variables that could be easily overlooked, to consider the metaphysical, the irrational and the emotional. I want to have a concise and 'complete' clarity of any given thing, or else potentially delude myself. I understand though you were only considering the first two functions.
This is very interesting because this is how I approach the world then I take it and use it to create isomorphisms with how the mind works. There is a chemistry and physics to minding with me that when I describe sounds very abstract but it's isomorphic from processes I've encountered in the world towards the mind.
Can Se creative be used, generally, to simply understand force, but not always to apply it? For me, the difference between a INTj and an ISTj theorist is what they base their theories on via their respective creative functions. INTj would focus on different outcomes of a situation and what things could be, try to predict what they will become, which possibility is most likely and makes the most sense to them (Object 1 might cause object 2 to do X, but also Y. Y is more likely-- Y makes more sense to me. Object 2 reacted by doing X-- why did object 2 react with X instead of Y? Could this mean that object 2 is also ____?) ISTJ would focus on the interactions of the objects in the situation, waiting for the interaction to take place, and then come to a theory based on that (Object 1 caused object 2 to do Y. This means that object 1 is category B. Objects of category B, to the ISTj, always behave in a certain way (based on their observations in the past) so they now know what object 1 will do from now on.) Is this a correct interpretation?
I assume you're doing all the perception lead functions first unless your going to keep do all the static blocking first , I look forward to NI-fe because what en- socionicka(didn't want to give this channel lip service) it was so lame .
I don't know how to fix whatever you are experiencing. I just record these videos on my computer mic, and they sound fine to me on both my computer and my phone. Do you know how I am meant to fix this thing? Any steps that I should take?
That was hard to listen to, tuned out every 3 seconds. Ne at its best. If you want Ti/Se users in your audience, you might want to lower the global/abstract concepts and be more concrete. Things I got out of it after looking at the transcript instead and finding that the first 9 minutes was only a ramble: Se+Ti = Certainty and clarity. Impose/conquer/forceful/tyrannical on existing structure (if needed). Will have a (unconscious) pecking order based on your muchness, assertiveness and will to masculinity.
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Yay! You’re doing all of the types. 😊👏🏼
Not doing the types yet. Just blockings.
@@WorldSocionics I still think it’s helpful to hear the explanations from one source.
Well, you should get the types in about 3 weeks or so of continuous videos :D
It’s no wonder why many SLE’s type as ENTJ in mbti.
Yes, Damon grey was a prime example of this phenomenon.
@@EndlessKurtis 1,000 %. And people saying he’s LIE are brainless. Where’s the lack of Se with him😂
Maybe, but the SLE s i know are very obvious P types in my book (as a LIE). I think they don't notice this about themselves
Te is Te and Se is Se. You cant be Te on mbti and Se on socionics. This relativism just break the entire idea of an expressive tipology that can be observed.
Different descriptions of a type between socionics and mbti maybe can be explained by cultural diferences of Eastern and Western; And so author X or Y.
In the end, or you stick with one theory or other.
You got me completely charmed with your fluency and knowledge. The historical examples of great men of power and philosophers got me totally hooked.
Also, you made the Se+Ti dynamic seem so admirable and fascinating my eyes are all sparkly. Please keep more of these coming.
Please explain why A craftsman (SiTe) hammering 🔨 a nail is performing a dynamic activity. As opposed an SLE building a 🧱 being static.
One is about how it is done, the other is about what it is .
In all honesty i wish i was this not a estp, but my version of it.I see that i am reaching it more and more as time goes at least situationally nevertheless this is the people i tend to be attracted to and look for help or who tends to pick on me but end up helping me
As an ISTP, I relate well to everything you suggested, great observations, although to add, Ni plays a very influential role in my formulation and formalisation of ideas. Ni constantly reminds me to consider lots and lots of variables that could be easily overlooked, to consider the metaphysical, the irrational and the emotional. I want to have a concise and 'complete' clarity of any given thing, or else potentially delude myself. I understand though you were only considering the first two functions.
Very much. Will cover the types in full, including the TRUE ISTJ, in a couple of weeks.
This is very interesting because this is how I approach the world then I take it and use it to create isomorphisms with how the mind works. There is a chemistry and physics to minding with me that when I describe sounds very abstract but it's isomorphic from processes I've encountered in the world towards the mind.
Can Se creative be used, generally, to simply understand force, but not always to apply it? For me, the difference between a INTj and an ISTj theorist is what they base their theories on via their respective creative functions. INTj would focus on different outcomes of a situation and what things could be, try to predict what they will become, which possibility is most likely and makes the most sense to them (Object 1 might cause object 2 to do X, but also Y. Y is more likely-- Y makes more sense to me. Object 2 reacted by doing X-- why did object 2 react with X instead of Y? Could this mean that object 2 is also ____?) ISTJ would focus on the interactions of the objects in the situation, waiting for the interaction to take place, and then come to a theory based on that (Object 1 caused object 2 to do Y. This means that object 1 is category B. Objects of category B, to the ISTj, always behave in a certain way (based on their observations in the past) so they now know what object 1 will do from now on.)
Is this a correct interpretation?
Correct, the Creative can just as much be used to guide understanding as it can guide action.
If what you say is true then that would mean that I'm an LSI for sure!
I assume you're doing all the perception lead functions first unless your going to keep do all the static blocking first , I look forward to NI-fe because what en- socionicka(didn't want to give this channel lip service) it was so lame .
Doing Static blocking first, so you've got a wait unfortunately
@@WorldSocionics so you are doing that argg its okay its worth the wait
all i thought was as an INFP i have Se blind and Fi is the opposite of Ti, in what realm do i live, in chaos land :D
well, I'll be looking at Ne+Fi on the 15th
The audio is awful in this video too. Why not fix it and reupload them? It's so easy to fix
The audio is perfectly fine, you are either a troll or the biggest whiner ever.
I don't know how to fix whatever you are experiencing. I just record these videos on my computer mic, and they sound fine to me on both my computer and my phone.
Do you know how I am meant to fix this thing? Any steps that I should take?
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Can i translate and sub your video?
Into what language?
@@WorldSocionics Portuguese - Brazil.
sure, that would be lovely of you@@jjjjjmeksjaj
That was hard to listen to, tuned out every 3 seconds. Ne at its best. If you want Ti/Se users in your audience, you might want to lower the global/abstract concepts and be more concrete.
Things I got out of it after looking at the transcript instead and finding that the first 9 minutes was only a ramble:
Se+Ti = Certainty and clarity. Impose/conquer/forceful/tyrannical on existing structure (if needed). Will have a (unconscious) pecking order based on your muchness, assertiveness and will to masculinity.