As a French person living in the U.K. I have learnt to enjoy the British sense of humour, and their freedom of expression through music, fashion, and the arts generally. I have found that the British also have great respect for the values of the past and tradition. It shows in the preservation of ancient buildings, even steam trains, which is quite endearing. But what has captivated me the most is their love for plants, gardening and wildlife, which I share. I also like a good pantomime!
If this is going to be used to argue for further erosion of welfare systems, then we have a problem. We absolutely need investment in a way that takes account of what matters. That can be channelled into localities if that's the best way to do it.
Waiting for government to do the change is indeed not the right approach but expecting that we can do without it is fallacious as well. There was a thought-provoking on a article "Our passive society" on what we can do: "As the activists of Occupy Wall Street understood, we have to bring back sit-ins on a mass scale, on a larger scale than in the 1930s and 1960s. We have to sit in at universities, and in public parks, and in legislative chambers; we have to sit down on highways and bridges and city streets. We have to flood the centers of power with wave after wave of popular rage. We have, in short, to disrupt, for that is how change happens. We should emulate the Luddites, pioneers of a sophisticated anti-capitalism, and totally resist our final reduction to the status of appendages to the Machine."
‘ Once we know ourselves , … we can construct our knowledge of the external world (with all its contingency and uncertainty ) on our own individual foundation .’ Husserl. … ie First ‘ Know thy self ‘ “ As a suffering creature, I cannot do without something greater than I - something that is my life - the power to create.” Vincent van Gogh
Wonderful interview, thanks for sharing this! 9:24 I think AI is not so much about _improving_ our cognition, but outsourcing it to machines, effectively _impairing_ our cognition. There's nothing wrong with improving one's cognition, is there? Isn't that what (good) education does? Computers can also aid in that, as long as we use _it_ as a tool and not the other way around. I'm thinking of judicious use of actual computers, not the "smart" gadgets and apps that are being pushed upon us. Used responsibly, I think computers can be good tools for thought, aiding but not replacing Human Intelligence (HI).
Yes as Christopher Alexander in The Nature Of Order, discovered, - “…for cultural aliveness to exist, beauty and wholeness is the ORDER that emerges from the people”. Each individual has an important component of the social ecology that keeps society healthy and free from conceptual monocultures and mental homogenisation. As Christopher Alexander extols, “get design right, and you’ll facilitate human wellbeing”. Examples of Design that facilitates human wellbeing can be seen in The Netherlands powerfully redemptive bicycle cultures getting rid of car domination in infrastructure, so people can connect better, and have fun and be fitter.
More excellent discussion from Iain McGilchrist. My only gripe is I've now heard him say in several talks that "capitalism and social media" are problematic. Blaming social media seems redundant, because it very likely would have been a net positive if it wasn't shaped by capitalist forces.
This is the nub of Iain's hemispheric perspective : "are problematic" does not mean 'they are the problem', it means they exacerbate the problem. Balanced and nuanced - rather than either / or .
Unfortunately, eliminating competition will take a very long time to undo the millions of years of evolution where, until recently, you had to compete to survive. There isn’t as much mental illness in those competing to survive and our current predicament has come about as a result of our comfortable, easy lives. I'm sure that McGilchrist will help many through their problems.
Yes, that was why I stopped reading his first? book--it seemed to me not only very left hemispheric but also very "Virgoan," that is, with details inside details inside details. I can only take so much of that even from a researcher whose results and ideas I am interested in. Now I wonder if he did less of that with this next book.
I listened to three times because I love his work and in a short video it explained so much profoundly. However, to blame capitalism is to be short-sighted. The atomization that classical marxism started was accelerated by neo-marxism and post mondernism. What they sought to avoid 'with the alienation of man' only hastened it. Women were told we are a fake construct when so much of what makes a woman stems from the right hemisphere. Men were told in the 60s that they were unnecessary to families and hell was unleashed. The promises of the Enlightenment that it would solve humanity's problems was a complete lie.
Waffle.......waffle.......ramble.....twitter....blah, blah.....etc..The usual string of banalities ...! 90% of it meaningless..! Oh wait.! Now he's discovered the Divine....!!! 😂 😂
I said all the things you believe 30 years ago ago in therapy. I am you. I have most of what you have. I can not believe you think Douglas Murray is great, although very bright, he is very arrogant and part if the Tufton St problem. I think you have blind spots with regard to economics, the so called educated and generally the British.
One People, One Planet, One Love
As a French person living in the U.K. I have learnt to enjoy the British sense of humour, and their freedom of expression through music, fashion, and the arts generally. I have found that the British also have great respect for the values of the past and tradition. It shows in the preservation of ancient buildings, even steam trains, which is quite endearing. But what has captivated me the most is their love for plants, gardening and wildlife, which I share. I also like a good pantomime!
Amazing man. Have seriously got into his work this year and my life is better for it.
Well said!
Thank you for this, Iain. A most moving and elevating talk.
What a lovely man! I am so glad to discover this wonderful thinker!
Your saving me from a breakdown because of a left brain.Thankyou.
Relaxed in the heart awake in the brain
A very insightful thinker for our sad times.
I love to support this man. His work is excellent.
have you taken the journey of reading his new 2 volume tome?
What a lovely, intelligent man
Really enjoyed that, thanks for sharing
iain - the most broadly capable, most healing of doctors.
Absolutely agree. Would love to share a pint and watch the sunset! Aloha.
❤!
Profound. The government is not going to help us. Government welfare is a road to collapse. It’s the family and community that’s paramount.
If this is going to be used to argue for further erosion of welfare systems, then we have a problem. We absolutely need investment in a way that takes account of what matters. That can be channelled into localities if that's the best way to do it.
Waiting for government to do the change is indeed not the right approach but expecting that we can do without it is fallacious as well.
There was a thought-provoking on a article "Our passive society" on what we can do:
"As the activists of Occupy Wall Street understood, we have to bring back sit-ins on a mass scale, on a larger scale than in the 1930s and 1960s. We have to sit in at universities, and in public parks, and in legislative chambers; we have to sit down on highways and bridges and city streets. We have to flood the centers of power with wave after wave of popular rage. We have, in short, to disrupt, for that is how change happens. We should emulate the Luddites, pioneers of a sophisticated anti-capitalism, and totally resist our final reduction to the status of appendages to the Machine."
Thank you Iain.....
oh gawsh - so many wonderful phrases to quote !! Chi miigwech!
Beautifuly explained
Inspiring.
Live the best life we can, learn to become in stillness.
‘ Once we know ourselves , … we can construct our knowledge of the external world (with all its contingency and uncertainty ) on our own individual foundation .’ Husserl. … ie First ‘ Know thy self ‘
“ As a suffering creature, I cannot do without something greater than I - something that is my life - the power to create.” Vincent van Gogh
Inspirational ❤
Wonderful talk. Could the Natural also be the Divine?
It is thru connection to nature, the temple of the Devine, that one finds peace within
Permaculture and regenerative agriculture is vital
The matter with Things is a journey ...but it takes a good deal of time !
Also recommend The Compassionate Brain
Wonderful interview, thanks for sharing this!
9:24 I think AI is not so much about _improving_ our cognition, but outsourcing it to machines, effectively _impairing_ our cognition.
There's nothing wrong with improving one's cognition, is there? Isn't that what (good) education does? Computers can also aid in that, as long as we use _it_ as a tool and not the other way around. I'm thinking of judicious use of actual computers, not the "smart" gadgets and apps that are being pushed upon us. Used responsibly, I think computers can be good tools for thought, aiding but not replacing Human Intelligence (HI).
Yes as Christopher Alexander in The Nature Of Order, discovered, - “…for cultural aliveness to exist, beauty and wholeness is the ORDER that emerges from the people”.
Each individual has an important component of the social ecology that keeps society healthy and free from conceptual monocultures and mental homogenisation.
As Christopher Alexander extols, “get design right, and you’ll facilitate human wellbeing”.
Examples of Design that facilitates human wellbeing can be seen in The Netherlands powerfully redemptive bicycle cultures getting rid of car domination in infrastructure, so people can connect better, and have fun and be fitter.
10:18 reclaim sanity
More excellent discussion from Iain McGilchrist. My only gripe is I've now heard him say in several talks that "capitalism and social media" are problematic. Blaming social media seems redundant, because it very likely would have been a net positive if it wasn't shaped by capitalist forces.
This is the nub of Iain's hemispheric perspective : "are problematic" does not mean 'they are the problem', it means they exacerbate the problem. Balanced and nuanced - rather than either / or .
11:46 try turniing that upside down
Unfortunately, eliminating competition will take a very long time to undo the millions of years of evolution where, until recently, you had to compete to survive. There isn’t as much mental illness in those competing to survive and our current predicament has come about as a result of our comfortable, easy lives. I'm sure that McGilchrist will help many through their problems.
Yes, that was why I stopped reading his first? book--it seemed to me not only very left hemispheric but also very "Virgoan," that is, with details inside details inside details. I can only take so much of that even from a researcher whose results and ideas I am interested in. Now I wonder if he did less of that with this next book.
I listened to three times because I love his work and in a short video it explained so much profoundly. However, to blame capitalism is to be short-sighted. The atomization that classical marxism started was accelerated by neo-marxism and post mondernism. What they sought to avoid 'with the alienation of man' only hastened it. Women were told we are a fake construct when so much of what makes a woman stems from the right hemisphere. Men were told in the 60s that they were unnecessary to families and hell was unleashed. The promises of the Enlightenment that it would solve humanity's problems was a complete lie.
Gospel!
Iain, sounds like your practicing being. Very Practical indeed. 🕺🏼
The human experience is illusionary bullshit. On the other hand, the human reality of happiness love & joy is well being🕺🏼
Our relationship with the divine. Or as Heidegger put it: Only a God can save us.
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Be still and know that I am God.
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2': say that to Bill Gates : )
Meaning ¿¡ 🤪
An online AI therapist will make us all productive.
LOL. 😂
Yes, finally! But how many would be productive above average? 🤣
I have read most of what you have read. Correction
Waffle.......waffle.......ramble.....twitter....blah, blah.....etc..The usual string of banalities ...! 90% of it meaningless..!
Oh wait.! Now he's discovered the Divine....!!! 😂 😂
I said all the things you believe 30 years ago ago in therapy. I am you. I have most of what you have. I can not believe you think Douglas Murray is great, although very bright, he is very arrogant and part if the Tufton St problem. I think you have blind spots with regard to economics, the so called educated and generally the British.