Thank you Walt and Bob for taking the time to film and share your thoughts and expertise. Your saw colleges are unique and entertaining. Looking forward to seeing more of these.
oh, and I don't have one of these for myself yet, but these saws DO solve my pet peeve... they use the same bearings AND seals on both the flywheel side and clutch side... very nice
You bastards - because of you I now have a 930 super and 920 that I don't really need, but found myself not even hesitating to buy because you blokes keep bangin on about them!!!! They are cool saws that I am looking forward to running against my other favorite underrated saw, the mighty Dolmar 143mx. I also have a 254xp and 444se I got because of you.....
Always liked the 359's it was my first husky that I bought ran it for years then it was the first saw that I ever rebuilt it's still running great today
My 357xp is my first chainsaw that I owned when I started out as an arborist way back, before I trained as a small engine technician, and I still run it now 12 years later. I have used it with a 15" bar for snedding (bucking) and 18" for felling, I've used it on my harness as well for topping. It feels like an old friend to me! Just a solid workhorse. Seasons Greetings from across the pond! PS. I love Old Speckled Hen, great ale there!
Sounds familiar. I bought one back after my first year at college in '06. Still running it now, just. It's not without it's faults - often bogs down on pick up, dies on tick over when you need it to stay on, stays on when you'd quite happily have it drop out. I've got a replacement carb on it's way to hopefully remedy it's (un)reliability. But now I'm thinking I should drill a hole through the top plate of the carb and see what it does. As you say, it's an old friend to me. It has earned me some pocket money over the years, I just want the old chap to run as good as he can. Nothing beats chogging down some lumps with this sucker shouting it's head off!
@@Myrkskog as probably mentioned in Walt’s above video they have a few quirks in that the earlier ones had the plastic intake clamp that leaked. They also had an automatic decompression valve on a few serial numbers, which in my experience was always a problem.
I have a now days old 359 etech It is my favorite firewood saw. It is 2 Lbs. lighter than my 372xp... On the 359 I installed a non cat muffler and added another exhaust hole to the muffler, cut off carb limiters. I run 36:1 oil gas, for a 60 cc class saw it runs like a bat out of hell. And did I mention light weight old man saw lol.
I also found a Jonsered 2094 too. Looks like new in the pics for $500 not sure if that is a good price or not. I know I was reading online and some people said the earlier ones didn't have a decompression valve. There is a 2166 for $450 too but I found new ones on Ebay for $550 dealer had 18 of them as of last week not sure if they have any left now. Kinda hard for me to buy a used saw when I can get it brand new for $100 more.
Bought a 359 20 ish years ago. It's been a good one for sure. 10 cord a year and building a log cabin. It's in a couple of my vids. I did put a carb on it after the first couple years of buying it.
That was really interesting, it keeps the saw hobby going, and drives my wife crazy....well she understands it more or less... but anyway new stuff to search for and work on yeah
Would really like to see more love shown to them! Easy to port due to the side access to the transfers etc. Why not a build and mod on a 359? Probably the original OLD MAN SAW before the 562. My old man saw is my my ported 350, but a friend gifted me his 359 that died. Haven't fixed it yet, but it's on the bench.
i owned and and or ran the 4 saws on display but none will cut anywhere near as fast as a 262. that is from the perspective of a logger. i understand the point of getting to the carb. area but I rarely had to go there on any of these saws.
Been waiting for this series for a couple years now, thanks to you both for doing it! First saw in this class I ever spent time with was one of the 'red' ones, but ended up, as you know, buying the 359. It has been a fantastic, do-everything saw for a number of years now, but is starting to display those air-leak symptoms. I have a decomp plug, and can drill a hole in the carb cover, but so far the metal boot band has been elusive. Things to play with..... Thanks!
thanks guys, this videos got great info. have you had any more occasion to drill those walbro top vents? I did some googling and havent seen it mentioned anywhere else but im thinking of trying it
I had a Solo 680 (I think it was) for a short time. My next-door neighbor found it at a thrift store for 20 bucks and I traded a running pawn shop Poulan for it. It had no spark so I got a nos coil and got it running. Carb needed no work. Looked like new. It came with a Husqvarna 18-inch (!) bar and Oregon chisel chain. The saw looked unused in just about every respect. Started cutting some fairly large ash and it was burning paint off of the muffler. Put a Sugihara 28" bar on it and Ebay'ed it. I would have kept it but for the fact that it was all plastic. I would have broken it in no time. I did cut down a big-ass oak tree while I had it. It was a strong saw. 90cc's will do that.
Hello, I have a 357xp that I have been working the piss out of for the past 16 years, and it seized up on me today, I love this saw and was wondering about how much a shop would charge to rebuild it ?
the Walbro 199 carb also has a blue diaphram which is supposedly not the best either and needs to be swapped for the one that looks like a mesh. so far Treemonkey has the best youtube tutorial on that carb issue. very interesting about the placement of the hole in the muffler.... thanks!
I found a 359 for sale on FB today. Not sure I even remember seeing one before. Guy wants $250 for it. I haven't went to look at it but it looks in average shape in the pics claims it runs good that $250 is probably alright but there is a MS361 for the same price I would rather have. There is one of the Echo 60cc pro saws too the 620 whatever the model is that is in the box was a factory refurb I guess guy wants $250 for also. I don't really need any of them but I kinda want one or 2 of them lol. I already have a 64cc Makita so I have a similar saw already but if I got a 60cc pro saw maybe I would buy one of the 79cc top ends for the Makita. I just missed on a like new MS362c and MS460 the other day. Seems a ton of pro saws are popping up for sale at reasonable prices right now but those saws sold as soon as they got posted. I messaged both but both said somebody was on the way to buy them and I messaged them within a couple hours of them posting them for sale. Guy only wanted $350 for the MS460 and $450 for the MS362c that thing looked like it had maybe a couple tanks through it looked brand new still. Couple weeks ago somebody had a 365 and a 562 for $250 each and I think it was a 388 it was a top handle Husqvarna think that was the model he wanted $80 for but they all sold within a couple hours and he was almost 2 hours away from me so I wasn't going to drive all that way unless I knew he had them still. I found a Redmax GZ5000 for $299 that interests me too.
With the walbro carb issue... isnt it vented under the the cover? I'm having issues with mine currently and testing the ignition first but then it is back to the carburetor. Runs normal for 5 min and then starts losing power and running sporadically like it's running out of fuel. Hard restart.
Watched a video yesterday that says it's due to the Walbro Carb not fueling properly. Saw another video where a fella replaced the Walbro Carb with a Zama.
Quite funny to hear Americans use mm as measurement for the cylinders. But then again here in Sweden we always talk about inches for chainsaw bars. Even though we use metics for almost everything else. Great video.
Hey guys love your videos was wondering what you would recommend for clearing land. I have five heavily wooded acres ( all poplar wood) running a small 240 E . Saw works great but it’s just too small. Thinking about a 460 rancher. Any thoughts would be appreciated thanks so much.
The 460 rancher is a great saw. Only saw in the size and weight class I would "wrestle" with as an alternative is a 555 actually. Think Bob & I did a video or three on those class of saws. The 460 is the best of that series, 455 & 465 being the other ones. ruclips.net/video/nHAsi5wG-8o/видео.html part 2 ruclips.net/video/zfHrdDjoDMI/видео.html
Can you confirm or dispute this rumor?... I had a logger friend bring this issue up with the 2159. At idle, if you are holding both handles appropriately and press on the bar, it causes the saw to accelerate without touching the trigger. Dangerous!! Not a big deal at the log pile but more of an issue if you are wading through brush. I dont notice with my 2156 so I didnt know if there is some difference in throttle linkage. Thanks
Not a clue, I don't have and 359's or 357's in my set of saws, never have. So have no relevant opinion on the matter. The 60cc saws I use and would recommend are all 562's or derivatives and By The Way they have a throttle cable therefore that scenario isn't likely. So my advise? If that's something important to you, buy a 562 or 555, :) That's it for me on the entire 60cc subject for that matter...an action speaks louder than words moment...as I have 560,562's, 555,s :) Period. End Stop
Ok, how can the question make it to spike60? I wanted to ask because I felt like it was relevant, and may influence purchase decisions. The 357xp/359(2156/2159) seem like they are they ideal for the users that are on the fence between homeowners and pros. So they are probably the ones that would be felling and limbing without as much experience and be most vulnerable to that safety issue. (Waist high in limbs, poor footing and not expecting the saw to unexpectedly rev up)
Also want to mention that 2260 is the top of my wish list but they are a rare find so I'm having to make the best of finding 2156 or 2159 and modifying it until I score a 2258/2260
Also some of the diaphragms didn't match up with the passages on the carburetor, so you'd have to punch out a small hole on the fuel pump diagram. Simple fix, that's often overlooked.
but he does, and had a thread over in ope discussing just that. These video don't automatically update, they are a snap shot in time....and time changes.
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This video is still legendary today👍🏻
I’m watching this 6 yrs later you two have so much information on these old saws bob is like a husky encyclopedia
Greetings from West Germany Peter...
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Thank you Walt and Bob for taking the time to film and share your thoughts and expertise. Your saw colleges are unique and entertaining. Looking forward to seeing more of these.
I really like these Saw College videos. I learned and an still learning alot via these videos. Keep em comin👍🏻
oh, and I don't have one of these for myself yet, but these saws DO solve my pet peeve... they use the same bearings AND seals on both the flywheel side and clutch side... very nice
You bastards - because of you I now have a 930 super and 920 that I don't really need, but found myself not even hesitating to buy because you blokes keep bangin on about them!!!! They are cool saws that I am looking forward to running against my other favorite underrated saw, the mighty Dolmar 143mx. I also have a 254xp and 444se I got because of you.....
Always liked the 359's it was my first husky that I bought ran it for years then it was the first saw that I ever rebuilt it's still running great today
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Hab die 359.....schon seit bestimmt 11 Jahren.
Bis jetzt nie ein Problem gehabt.
Gruß aus Germany Peter
Love the saw college videos.Your channel keeps the saw hobby going for me.Thanks MJ
Already changed mine on my little 359. Changed everything.
My 357xp is my first chainsaw that I owned when I started out as an arborist way back, before I trained as a small engine technician, and I still run it now 12 years later. I have used it with a 15" bar for snedding (bucking) and 18" for felling, I've used it on my harness as well for topping. It feels like an old friend to me! Just a solid workhorse. Seasons Greetings from across the pond!
PS. I love Old Speckled Hen, great ale there!
Neil Frost that's good to know. I'm buying one second hand today.
Sounds familiar. I bought one back after my first year at college in '06. Still running it now, just. It's not without it's faults - often bogs down on pick up, dies on tick over when you need it to stay on, stays on when you'd quite happily have it drop out. I've got a replacement carb on it's way to hopefully remedy it's (un)reliability. But now I'm thinking I should drill a hole through the top plate of the carb and see what it does.
As you say, it's an old friend to me. It has earned me some pocket money over the years, I just want the old chap to run as good as he can. Nothing beats chogging down some lumps with this sucker shouting it's head off!
@@Myrkskog as probably mentioned in Walt’s above video they have a few quirks in that the earlier ones had the plastic intake clamp that leaked. They also had an automatic decompression valve on a few serial numbers, which in my experience was always a problem.
I have a now days old 359 etech It is my favorite firewood saw. It is 2 Lbs. lighter than my 372xp... On the 359 I installed a non cat muffler and added another exhaust hole to the muffler, cut off carb limiters. I run 36:1 oil gas, for a 60 cc class saw it runs like a bat out of hell. And did I mention light weight old man saw lol.
I also found a Jonsered 2094 too. Looks like new in the pics for $500 not sure if that is a good price or not. I know I was reading online and some people said the earlier ones didn't have a decompression valve. There is a 2166 for $450 too but I found new ones on Ebay for $550 dealer had 18 of them as of last week not sure if they have any left now. Kinda hard for me to buy a used saw when I can get it brand new for $100 more.
Bought a 359 20 ish years ago. It's been a good one for sure. 10 cord a year and building a log cabin. It's in a couple of my vids. I did put a carb on it after the first couple years of buying it.
nice video, i have the 357xpg always been a stihl guy but got a good deal so gave it a try and i like it
That was really interesting, it keeps the saw hobby going, and drives my wife crazy....well she understands it more or less... but anyway new stuff to search for and work on yeah
Good knowledge from both of you!
Would really like to see more love shown to them! Easy to port due to the side access to the transfers etc. Why not a build and mod on a 359? Probably the original OLD MAN SAW before the 562. My old man saw is my my ported 350, but a friend gifted me his 359 that died. Haven't fixed it yet, but it's on the bench.
Die 359 ist wirklich sehr gut.
i owned and and or ran the 4 saws on display but none will cut anywhere near as fast as a 262. that is from the perspective of a logger. i understand the point of getting to the carb. area but I rarely had to go there on any of these saws.
JRed & Husky world best
Getting a 357xp today, I've only used stihl chainsaws before :)
YAHOOO!!!!! school is back in session :)
Been waiting for this series for a couple years now, thanks to you both for doing it! First saw in this class I ever spent time with was one of the 'red' ones, but ended up, as you know, buying the 359. It has been a fantastic, do-everything saw for a number of years now, but is starting to display those air-leak symptoms. I have a decomp plug, and can drill a hole in the carb cover, but so far the metal boot band has been elusive. Things to play with..... Thanks!
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Thanks Ben, I had looked there once, but must have missed it in all the model numbers! Merry Christmas!
Yeah, I have the hardest time navigating that site. Merry Christmas to you too!
thanks guys, this videos got great info. have you had any more occasion to drill those walbro top vents? I did some googling and havent seen it mentioned anywhere else but im thinking of trying it
I had a Solo 680 (I think it was) for a short time. My next-door neighbor found it at a thrift store for 20 bucks and I traded a running pawn shop Poulan for it. It had no spark so I got a nos coil and got it running. Carb needed no work. Looked like new. It came with a Husqvarna 18-inch (!) bar and Oregon chisel chain. The saw looked unused in just about every respect. Started cutting some fairly large ash and it was burning paint off of the muffler. Put a Sugihara 28" bar on it and Ebay'ed it. I would have kept it but for the fact that it was all plastic. I would have broken it in no time. I did cut down a big-ass oak tree while I had it. It was a strong saw. 90cc's will do that.
Hello, I have a 357xp that I have been working the piss out of for the past 16 years, and it seized up on me today, I love this saw and was wondering about how much a shop would charge to rebuild it ?
the Walbro 199 carb also has a blue diaphram which is supposedly not the best either and needs to be swapped for the one that looks like a mesh. so far Treemonkey has the best youtube tutorial on that carb issue.
very interesting about the placement of the hole in the muffler.... thanks!
Matthew Olson I always wondered about those blue diaphams 👍👍
357XP beast
Been waiting for this series Walter!! I have a 359 and a 357xp. Looking for Jonsered 256
I'm trying to salvage a 359 with a cracked crankcase. Is the crankcase compatible with any other models other than the 357 or Jonsered 2156/2159?
no
Just drill a small hole and leave it as such?
Confused on the science of it (how it still works)
Really useful vid ty guys.
Great video
I love my turbo jreds
The game changes between the different cc saws when we go to longer bars.
I found a 359 for sale on FB today. Not sure I even remember seeing one before. Guy wants $250 for it. I haven't went to look at it but it looks in average shape in the pics claims it runs good that $250 is probably alright but there is a MS361 for the same price I would rather have. There is one of the Echo 60cc pro saws too the 620 whatever the model is that is in the box was a factory refurb I guess guy wants $250 for also. I don't really need any of them but I kinda want one or 2 of them lol. I already have a 64cc Makita so I have a similar saw already but if I got a 60cc pro saw maybe I would buy one of the 79cc top ends for the Makita. I just missed on a like new MS362c and MS460 the other day. Seems a ton of pro saws are popping up for sale at reasonable prices right now but those saws sold as soon as they got posted. I messaged both but both said somebody was on the way to buy them and I messaged them within a couple hours of them posting them for sale. Guy only wanted $350 for the MS460 and $450 for the MS362c that thing looked like it had maybe a couple tanks through it looked brand new still. Couple weeks ago somebody had a 365 and a 562 for $250 each and I think it was a 388 it was a top handle Husqvarna think that was the model he wanted $80 for but they all sold within a couple hours and he was almost 2 hours away from me so I wasn't going to drive all that way unless I knew he had them still. I found a Redmax GZ5000 for $299 that interests me too.
Loved the 2 359’s I had. I’m still nostalgic about them. But the 562xp is a more powerful saw.
Another interesting vídeo!
Wered yah find the full wrap bars for 359
Hi spike have you eny videos with the husqvarna 262xp. Some good information.. Serenity know what ur talking about man. 🏴
great stuff guys how about ultimate old man saw vs 357xp would love to see it thanks
With the walbro carb issue... isnt it vented under the the cover? I'm having issues with mine currently and testing the ignition first but then it is back to the carburetor. Runs normal for 5 min and then starts losing power and running sporadically like it's running out of fuel. Hard restart.
Could be that, may want to check your tank vent, jic
Watched a video yesterday that says it's due to the Walbro Carb not fueling properly. Saw another video where a fella replaced the Walbro Carb with a Zama.
Go to 14:23 in the video and they discuss a fix for the carb issue also. Just watched it.
Quite funny to hear Americans use mm as measurement for the cylinders.
But then again here in Sweden we always talk about inches for chainsaw bars.
Even though we use metics for almost everything else. Great video.
Not all 357s and 359s had the same crank. The old 357 were 12mm vs 15mm 359 rod. Later 357s and 359s both had 15mm rods
Hey guys love your videos was wondering what you would recommend for clearing land. I have five heavily wooded acres ( all poplar wood) running a small 240 E . Saw works great but it’s just too small. Thinking about a 460 rancher. Any thoughts would be appreciated thanks so much.
The 460 rancher is a great saw. Only saw in the size and weight class I would "wrestle" with as an alternative is a 555 actually. Think Bob & I did a video or three on those class of saws. The 460 is the best of that series, 455 & 465 being the other ones.
ruclips.net/video/nHAsi5wG-8o/видео.html
part 2
ruclips.net/video/zfHrdDjoDMI/видео.html
thanks fellas.
And the bottle of beer to! What kind of model is? :P
Can you confirm or dispute this rumor?...
I had a logger friend bring this issue up with the 2159.
At idle, if you are holding both handles appropriately and press on the bar, it causes the saw to accelerate without touching the trigger. Dangerous!! Not a big deal at the log pile but more of an issue if you are wading through brush. I dont notice with my 2156 so I didnt know if there is some difference in throttle linkage. Thanks
Not a clue, I don't have and 359's or 357's in my set of saws, never have. So have no relevant opinion on the matter. The 60cc saws I use and would recommend are all 562's or derivatives and By The Way they have a throttle cable therefore that scenario isn't likely. So my advise? If that's something important to you, buy a 562 or 555, :) That's it for me on the entire 60cc subject for that matter...an action speaks louder than words moment...as I have 560,562's, 555,s :) Period. End Stop
Ok, how can the question make it to spike60? I wanted to ask because I felt like it was relevant, and may influence purchase decisions. The 357xp/359(2156/2159) seem like they are they ideal for the users that are on the fence between homeowners and pros. So they are probably the ones that would be felling and limbing without as much experience and be most vulnerable to that safety issue. (Waist high in limbs, poor footing and not expecting the saw to unexpectedly rev up)
Also want to mention that 2260 is the top of my wish list but they are a rare find so I'm having to make the best of finding 2156 or 2159 and modifying it until I score a 2258/2260
Walbro 199 the carb that had the problem
why is 555 only 709 555 1100?
Most of the walbros fail because of the accelerator pump not the vent
Can you post a picture of those accelerator pumps on the Walbros' that came with the 357's
Also some of the diaphragms didn't match up with the passages on the carburetor, so you'd have to punch out a small hole on the fuel pump diagram. Simple fix, that's often overlooked.
You guys don’t have a clue we’re you can find a full wrap for these saws that are reasonably priced
but he does, and had a thread over in ope discussing just that. These video don't automatically update, they are a snap shot in time....and time changes.
Ebay under 100 bucks
Anybody now the difference between xp and xpg?
xpg has heated handle option & additional stuff under the flywheel to generate power for that heated handle
@@afleetcommand thx
Can I put a aftermarket 357xp jug and piston on my 359 My 359 is kind of on the gutless side. Wonder if I changed that out it might wake it up