The Shining - questions about the Colorado Lounge Part 12
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- In a video of Miss M's 'The Object of Art' she has several questions about the Colorado Lounge that I might be able to answer.
I have written down about twenty of her questions that I will try to answer in no particular order.
Question 12
The height of stacks of firewood changes.
Why?
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I have written down twenty questions that I will try to answer in the coming months.
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1. Where do you find the time? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------0:05:12
2. Is room 237 part of Colorado Lounge? How? Why? Logistics issue?----------------------------0:27:27
3. No windows? Windowless rooms? How much space?-------------------------------------------------0:38:08
4. Does Room 237 have windows behind the curtains? Are there windows in the bathroom?0:39:45
5. How big is room 237? Are there false doors in the corridor?----------------------------------------0:40:53
6. Why is there a niche in the Colorado Lounge? What purpose does it serve?----------------0:46:00
7. Elevator doors and service doors look almost the same. Why?-----------------------------------0:47:02
8. Photos and desk just on one column. Why isn't it symmetrical?-----------------------------------0:53:16
9. The stairs; where is it going? The dark niche; where is it going?-----------------------------------0:53:52
10. Are you answering some questions?--------------------------------------------------------------------------0:59:17
11. Why so many books?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1:02:04
12. The height of stacks of firewood changes.-----------------------------------------------------------------1:03:24
13. Where is the elevator? Where does it go?-------------------------------------------------------------------1:11:04
14. The vents in the ceiling van Colorado Lounge?----------------------------------------------------------1:12:27
15. The carpet upstairs?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1:15:47
16. Where does this door go?-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1:16:09
17. Didn't include the bear rug.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1:28:13
18. Painting of a Native American. Who is he?-----------------------------------------------------------------1:29:25
19. The white double door. Where does it lead? When Wendy comes from the boiler room?1:32:45
20. There is an exit door. Where does it lead?------------------------------------------------------------------1:40:53
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Could it be that the hearth's fire is kept alive by the hotel itself, its evil spirit? Jack seems too lost and somehow out of shape to undertake the daily task of chopping wood. And as Wendy is oblivious to each and every symptom he shows, she would never assume there's company in the hotel until it's too late.
It often crossed my mind over the years - are we supposed to think Jack goes out and chops wood and brings it in?
Jack's shirt looks a bit like a lumberjack's...
And during Stuart Ullman's tour outside, as they walk toward the garage, a man walks by with a cart full of logs.
@@deltabuilder Now that I think about it, it would be risky for your average guy to be chopping wood in an isolated location. So, a good incentive for the hotel to provide all the firewood the family would need.
Throughout the film, there are some HUGE fires burning in that fireplace. That means, while Jack was slowly going mad, he was also building those huge-ass fires. I assumed he was restocking the wood from a shed outside or something during the off-camera times. If he had access to a chainsaw in the movie, imagine how different the end could have been.
Stanley read a lot and always watched a lot of movies. It is possible that Stanley considered a chainsaw. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie came out in 1974.
But together with Diane Johnson, Stanley wanted to make a psychological horror/thriller.
The huge fire could also have been in Jack's imagination. That is why no wood disappears.
@@deltabuilder I noticed none of the stuff people notice about the hotel being all screwy inside. But the fireplace did give me the kind of feeling I get in dreams sometimes where I know something is not making sense. The big fire, the big stacks of wood, is Jack doing this? Doesn't seem too likely. So, I think it might just be something weird Kubrick stuck in there to make us wonder.
Delta, can you tell us what are dimensions of Colorado Lounge? Length, width, height. Thanks.
PS I noticed that so may times throughout the movie there is a shining, here, for example, the floor is polished and shines.
The length of the Colorado Lounge from the seating areas next to the elevator to the seating areas next to the fireplace under the stairs is 40 meters.
The width from the windows to the wall at the stairs in the Service Corridor is 21.5 meters (including the outside wall 24.3 meters)
The height from the floor to the highest point on the ceiling is 7.6 meters.
The measurements are taken from my model. The model fits within the dimensions of Stage 3 (44.5 x 29.5 x 11.9 meters).
About the shining... everything shines and reflects in The Shining. Floors, walls, ceilings and mirrors. It looks like Stanley did not use matte paint.
@@deltabuilder Fascinating. The Colorado Lounge is one of my favorite Overlook Hotel rooms together with Gold room and for some reason: coridors, all of them.
I would walk The Overlook Hotel coridors for months...
I know this may sound excessively ambitious but... how about building real copy of The Overlook hotel at some mountain by donations of The Shining afficinados worldwide?
I know there are millions of The Shining fans worldwide. If some of us who are good in computer science could make website that would transparently present each cent of payments for building real Overlook Hotel and also transparently present each cent of expenses of building real Overlook hotel millions of euros could be collected and the exact copy of The Overlook Hotel could be built.
Let's consider this.
Meanwhile we can make precise virtual copy of The Overlook Hotel and you are on good way of doing it, although I guess you need more advanced program than the one you have now.
Since you didn't count out the logs for us, I have an urge to get pennies, nickles, dimes and quarters and try to mimic the logs from shot to shot. But, then I tell myself, that is completely obsessive and unnecessary.
I went through the same thought process.
But luckily stopped in time. 😉
When the fire was burning, they must have brought in the wood from outside the set. To have it function with real fire means they had to build a real ventilation system.
I noticed that the Yei sandpainting above the fireplace isn't sandpainting. It's simply bare wall that was painted to resemble a sandpainting. It shouldn't be so shiny and bright. It should be dull. I wonder if there is a reason for an imitation. All the other Native American art is essentially authentic except for that.
I know he said it's not about story interpretation but how the set was built. Sometimes, interpretation can answer questions on how and why something is done. It gives context. Have you ever heard of John Whiteside Parsons, born Marvel Whiteside Parsons, known as Jack? He was an occultist and a follower of Alistair Crowley who got into rockets science. He went to caltech (didn't graduate) and along with Apollo M.O Emo Smith, Frank Malina, Qian Xiesen, Weld Arnold, theordor von karman, and Ed Forman began developing solid and liquid fuel rockets at GALCIT. They were known as the "suicide squad." It's was the beginning of JPL. However it was in 1942 when Smith, Parsons, Forman, Malina, and karman who rented an office on Colorado boulevard and named it aerojet engineering corporation and in 1943 use the name jet propulsion laboratory for the first time. It was plasticized variants of Jack Parsons solid fuel design that was used for the minuteman icbm. It was Jack Parsons working for North American aviation with the Navaho missile project that if you look at the painting above the fireplace, you'll understand what they were meant to look like. This is why Danny's sweater said Apollo on it. It's why Jack was throwing a tennis ball against the wall and Danny's had one roll up to him. The tennis ball represents a demon core or a christy pit. 237 represents neptunium 237. Which is what uranium 235 decays into.
As I said Jack Parsons was a follower of Alistair Crowley and a member of the OTO, ordo templi orientis, and the agape lodge of California. And so was Stanley Kubrick. Source: Wikipedia, Jack Parsons, jpl, sm-64 Navaho, pit (nuclear weapons), and OTO member list.
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