🇲🇽 What does military control of policing mean for Mexico? | The Stream
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Mexico’s Congress has voted to bring federal police forces under direct military control, in a move that critics say dramatically escalates the army’s role in civilian affairs and functions.
President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador spearheaded the bill to put the National Guard under the control of the country's army-led defence ministry - a volte-face on his earlier pledge to take the army out of policing and return many soldiers to barracks.
The bill cleared the Senate on September 9. But opponents say that putting the National Guard under direct military rule is another example of the creeping militarisation of the country. Army and navy teams have in recent years been deployed in increasing numbers to handle tasks that would usually be the responsibility of civilian-led bodies - from building airports and train networks to stopping migrants and handling customs checks at seaports.
While the National Guard is currently under nominal civilian control, about 80 percent of its 118,000-strong force come from military ranks. Lopez Obrador insists that putting the National Guard under formal military leadership will ultimately help Mexico tackle gang violence that has continued unabated.
But human rights groups opposed to the fast-tracked bill say the military is not trained in the sensitivities of community policing - and point out that the governmental National Human Rights Commission is examining more than a thousand complaints of abuse by National Guard officers. They are urging root-and-branch reforms of police forces, prosecutors and courts instead.
In this episode of The Stream, we'll look at what the bill heralded by Lopez Obrador would mean for communities across Mexico if it becomes law, and ask what the increasing visibility of the military in public life means for the country.
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The people yearn, the Government acts, the people oppose,...the circle on and on.
If the Government finds it more effective to curbing resurfacing and steming excesses then, let all hands be on deck towards a more efficient niche.
👌 AMLO
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Well perhaps they can do something about the cartels now. Because the police sure aren't.
Our alphabet agencies in the US need the cartels. That’s how they stay funded.
This is going to start happening, it could very well happen in USA b/c of absolute lawlessness rising continually. I live in California and just in my city ,murders everyday, ppl burning buildings, countless pedestrians killed ECT.
Praying for citizens of Mexico😢💓🙏🏻
God help us who love you, protect the innocent we ask in Jesus Christ name💓🙏🏻
Dam what part of California you live in
That decision needed to be made, for all of us REAL Mexican people who ACTUALLY live here know that the local police can't compete with huge crime organizations.
It really hurts but this is our reality and it would be irresponsible to just ignore it.
These people who ALJAZEERA interview just make the channel lose credibility and also irresponsible since it shows lack of investigation or single sided point of view. It's like in US nobody wants police abuse BUT you can't deny there's bad people who really need it.
Todos los Mexicanos que VIVIMOS en México sabemos la realidad de nuestro país y las razones por lo que está decisión fue necesaria pues las policías locales no pueden competir con los grandes grupos delictivos.
Es difícil pero es necesario no por el presente sino por quienes vivirán en el futuro, es nuestra realidad y es irresponsable ignorarla.
I'm Mexican myself living in Mexico and you're 100% right. The one who opposed are the right parties that put the country on this crime situation with their corruption. Everybody in Mexico knows this, that's why Mexican president has support from the immense majority of the country.
Guardia National's main duty is to act as neutral force amoung corrupt local police department, can we talk how corrupt local police departments are!! Like police are helping cartels with killing of civilians. Hence the deployment of a neutral force. Imagine a corrupt police department trying to investigate corruption...it happens a lot in many cities! How do you control corrupt police department that align with cartels?
Come on humans these interviewers were trash!!!
This will turn the Mexican national guard into another corrupt institution. Just look at the military police in Brazil.
@@pabrodi "Another corrupt institution" so like the NRA, RNC, DNC, and CIA, should I keep going? Lol, buddy, you're not making sense 🤣
@@toro_bravo9420 you're talking like I'm American but I'm Brazilian lol. I know from experience.
Means you don't mess with Mexico!
This is terrifying.... sending prayers 🙏 for the Mexican people!! I pray those missing are ok, or at least at peace.... not being harmed or hurt in anyway.... and the people get answers as to where their loved ones have gone!! Lord, please protect us all!!
@@nightmark2120 NONE of it is ok if it's hurting innocent people!! It doesn't matter what title you put over it.... its tragic, and terrifying.... the Mexican people deserve to feel safe!! And BE safe in their homeland!! That's legit like saying a... malignant tumor!! I mean it's JUST CANCER!!....
What has military control of policing resulted in throughout history ? Why would it be any different in Mexico?.
Because no country has faced what Mexico is facing, it's either this or putting the entire army against drug cartels. Do you even know what happens over there? Cartels are today huge paramilitary organizations with combat experience. What would you do? Enforce hug not bullets? Do you know what they do to everyone? You would never sleep again if you saw what they do to people.
@@POLARTTYRTM Being a retired criminal Barrister and Advocate who has lived lived here (CDMX) for 2 years and looking out my window at the Parque de Mexico, across the street, Ya, I figure I got better handle on this situation in Mexico than you do Gorby.
Cheers mate
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@@maxzorin9425 CDMX does not experience the full extent of the situation and is between the safe places of the country, so no, you don't know. Go to places like Tamaulipas, Guanajuato, Celaya, Aguililla, Tijuana, Juárez, Michoacán or Zacatecas if you want to know what people go through. CDMX is a place where people can live in a people and be safe from what happens outside of it. You walk and you are caught in shootouts with full auto 50 cals going off between cartels of stumble upon fully dismembered bodies in the streets as display for everyone to see.
Get out of your bubble and see the real situation. Comments like yours are shameful. You look at high rise skyscrapers and mostly peaceful city and think you know what happens outside this bubble.
@@POLARTTYRTM So you've read a book and watched a bunch of media bullshit. Congratulations. When you Do come to culi or CDMX or Guadalajara or PV ... send me a message. Ill give you a tour... but please wax as poetic as you like ... its sort of cute...
The U.S. has repeatedly activated their own National Guard for far less than what Mexico created it for. We can all agree that the cartels are far from a simple "policing" matter at this point. The U.S. has repeatedly threatened to classify them as either terrorists or as paramilitaries and that would justify further U.S. intervention in Mexico so the president has finally had enough. It is time to send the full military might of the armed forces and go after the Cartels as enemies of the state and especially as a serious threat to national security - which they most definitely are.
Means martial law!!! What else does it mean?
Legalize drugs, get taxes, educate kids.
Gracias 😁 por dar está información....♥️
Editors on this topic need to get more informed and interview more independent.
If I was in academia I would take this whole news section apart!! I'd call all of those being interviewed and the host and it's editor.
Such BS coming out of this, I had respect for this channel. They're following the narrative that the New York Times has on Mexico, if you been following New York Times you know they're not credible, globally, yet here we are. Smh.
They're just trying not to die... It seems like
This will only help if the military is not corrupt or controlled by the cartel? Serving the citizens and not their own interests.
So then, it ain't gonna work then.
The military isn't controlled by the cartels but there's fake military are actually the cartels.
These journalist are expressive extremely opposite views and are not in any way relating the current state of Mexican politics. I am Mexican and watch the presidential conference every morning. This makes me loose somewhat respect for this news channel.
I agree with you, the analysis on Mexico here was a bit biased and they don't even know it.
This is a worldwide problem not only mexico,but ignorants blame without knowledge
I will unsubscribe now 🛑🛑🛑
They are talking about the Army. The President has Marines patrolling the streets now not just Army soldiers like before. This journalism is a JOKE.
The Question is. How come the drugs or security problems until now never solved. Who is behind of this 🤔 You can see the guest journalist never do research about the issue.
Probably censored journalism.
Parades of propaganda sounds like fun but giving the police power is against anarchist ideology. I hope Mexico begins to defend human rights and I hope these issues are resolved because Mexico can be a fun country if everyone is safe and secure. Mexico has a strong culture that makes life fun, it's not fair these issues plague their nation.
Tbh, if they're just trying to establish the rule of law, nothing is wrong with that. Lawlessness makes it unattractive for investors.
Brazilian here. If the militarization of police helped, we wouldn't have so much violence here
@@pabrodi AMLO and Bolsonaro, are not the same. When Bolsonaro ran I was against him, but many Brazilians were for it they said, "change is coming", and things didn't get better! And I'm not Brazilian though i follow their politics and many in South America.
Compare AMLO vs. Bolsonaro approval rating. That will tell you. Most Mexicans approve of what AMLO is doing, it even got debated in the senate! And still pass, most parties approved.
@@toro_bravo9420 I'm not discussing politicians. I'm talking about policies. Brazil always had a militarized police, and look at where we are now.
Now we have militias of military police competing with narcos to control areas. Crime worsens every year that passes.
Things probably wont change as long as hoards of arms make it across the US border to Mexico. 70-90% recovered come from USA. And things are not likely to change in the US anytime soon when it comes to guns.
@@pabrodi the guy you're arguing with obviously benefits from militarization financially probably which is why he doesn't see an issue with this. Probably wants the country to be more appealing to his foreign corporation friends.
Do you think the increase in military is directly related to the rare ore that was found in Mexico recently?
No, los Carteles de Narcotráfico están atacando a la Población Civil, el Ejército y la Marina están cuidando las Ciudades, puertos y Aeropuertos, les recuerdo que altos funcionarios en México (de Gobiernos anteriores) están coludidos con el NARCO.
@Alia h Potentially, but mainly la Guardia National's duty is to act as neutral force amoung corrupt local police department, can we talk how corrupt local police departments are!! Like police are helping cartels with killing of civilians. Hence the deployment of a neutral force. Imagine a corrupt police department trying to investigate corruption...it happens a lot in many cities! How do you control corrupt police department and align with cartels?
Come on humans these interviewers were trash!!!
USA PSYOPS has Infiltrated GUARDIA
That neutral is NATO
@@facethesky1066 😯
They all disagreed w the president of the Senate. There are tons of journalists out there that agree w the president of Mexico and w the President of the Senate.
Thanks,
I'm VERY interested in this topic, but the constant interruptions of the host (whether the fault is his or the producer's) has reduced the 3 experts to trying to talk really fast or with simple soundbites, which has led me to move off this program...
You could bring in foreign workers. Not to many maybe 15-20 percent. Integrated with the indigenous forces and on 6-12 month Visas. Similar to how small countries.
O woow!! Al-Jezeera something is happening more than 30 years ago and you are investigating just now? When RT tv. Was showing up manny years ago i think we can see the difference betwen RT tv. And al jezeera.
Means Canada is likely next and then US.
It is a necessary decision.
Great 👍
U picking only using opposition press y don’t u ask real Mexican from the people
what Mexican people need to understand is that Guardia Nacional ( "National Guard"), is DEA enforcement Ally and uses Israeli Pegasus software in all the country internet networks we need to support it
so you mean authoritarianism should be the solution ? does it create a better society than the novel 1984 ?
Do you think the increase in military is directly related to the rare ore that was found in Mexico recently?
What is up with this software. Can you explain?
@@aliah9426 Potentially, but mainly la Guardia National's duty is to act as neutral force amoung corrupt local police department, can we talk how corrupt local police departments are!! Like police are helping cartels with killing of civilians. Hence the deployment of a neutral force. Imagine a corrupt police department trying to investigate corruption...it happens a lot in many cities! How do you control corrupt police department and align with cartels?
Come on humans these interviewers were trash!!!
Ustedes dedíquense a sus noticias que de los mexicanos se encarga López obrador y su guardia nacional junto con los militares.
*Finally!*
Mexico... I think it's Time to Take out the Trash.
If you mean by "trash" all the greedy anglo saxon SOBs that are stealing from Mexico. Then Yes! I agree with you.
The CIA won’t let that happen. How do you think they stay funded. 😅
This is bad and will only lead to more terrible things happening. Power to the people, it's time tell the government how you feel.
One more revolution!
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Nayib Bukele is gonna be mad y’all are copying him.😂
If this is the way Al Jazeera is reporting about other countries I’m gonna believe zero about that what Al Jazeera has to say about them.
Money Corrupts and Controls. Change the Money?
I saw the hall thing is just a political bashing with no correct information
I saw a discipline there once the in trouble soldiers had to stand on a 6inch block in the hot sun. 😩
Sorry to but guys this horrible 20,000.00 people 😢 😞 😔 this guy don't care he made his point
Remember people, don't get your news on one source. Also have an open mind. Their opinions are their life experiences.
What is going on ???sorry 🙏🙏🙏Mexico
Besides his ambition to centralized power, it looks like those in charge of running the country do not trust completely their citizens to participate in the fight against the cartels and the narco-terrorists.
Moving from task forces and specialized units to militarization is a sign the people are powerless and that in order to survive and protect their families, they have to be tolerant and complaisant to the situation in their communities.
The horrific methods used in Afghanistan to force families to give out their children to join various factions, gave warlords a reputation for using power tools as weapons of torture on children in plain view of their families to pressure them to basically sacrifice them through these intimidation techniques just to keep them alive.
The great “re set”
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Milotaeycontrol, no Mexico
Lol
Before it's too late learn from us Eritrea 🇪🇷 sorry this is responsibility of your country buy the constitution any one who is against his people is against the nation and he is a danger to the country
What is Eritrea
@@jsanikdany3330 it's a plant type
@@Hager330 it must be f up plant
Bro it's a country from east africa
@@Hager330 Ok Bro Relax
A lot more dead.
Aqui no Brasil escondem sinal de Deus e confirma palavra da Bíblia..O qual se opõe, e se levanta contra tudo o que se chama Deus, ou se adora; de sorte que se assentará, como Deus, no templo de Deus, querendo parecer Deus.
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Tourism. This is bad news for tourists like myself. Thanks for info.
Was thinking of retiring there but with this news i am not so sure now , maybe wait and see .
@@jsanikdany3330 Thanks! I needed a good laugh.
Let’s not forget the National guard kidnapped and disappeared many innocent people under the previous President
National guard didn't existed back then
Lol the national guard was established in 2019
There was no national guard during the times of the former president . Liar or ignorant.