Try a spin build on Guan Yu. You need Quick Spin then either of the other two. Flying is better for healing imo, Massive is better for raw damage. Then just line up your special with your spin projectile and enemies fall like flies.
Lol I loved u point it out. It’s my play style too. I played one with twin fist, I got the weapon perk where u take less damage when attacking. I think that’s pretty good
I had no idea what Supergiant Games was until I ran into Eurydice for the first time. "Oh, they're the ones who made Bastion?" Ashley Barrett's voice and Darren Korb's music is just so recognizable. Love it. Oh, and Darren also voices Zagreus. Blows my mind.
Almost everything in Hades is based on real (generally slightly obscure) versions of greek myths. I was actually bitching to a friend that in the version of Zagreus's story where he is Persephone's son Zeus is his father, and he eventually becomes Dionysus, which was the mystery promulgated by the Orphic cult, so I was pretty amused when Dionysus suggested playing a prank on Orpheus by telling him they were actually the same god. I got outplayed. Anyway, in myth Zeus and Poseidon tended to be closer than most of the gods, and in stories that evidently happen chronologically earlier because they explain natural phenomena (for example the seasons, which the story of Persephone explain) Zeus especially tends to try to include Hades in that fraternal bond. I also really liked when Zeus told Zag to relay to Hades that Zeus "forgave him" and that he was welcome back on Olympus. It's the right mix of completely self-absorbed arrogance and well-meaning benevolence that characterises most of the poets' myths of Zeus. Zeus arranging the abduction of Persephone specifically also comes from myth but I don't know of a version where Hades was not the abductor.
39:52 The vases will gradually be destroyed, with a glowing aura around the one he’s currently destroying, once destroyed he restores 1500 health and moves onto the next. Destroying a vase by yourself will NOT cause him to regen, but will cause him to try another. He only destroys a few vases. He uses the move at the start of phase 2-2 and randomly during phase 3
i keep getting to 28% and absolutely tanking in Elysium BEGGING the rng gods to send me the charged special and athena dash boons, bless up for the inspiration man
I always run Aspect of Lucifer with Demeter’s keepsake to try and get her cast. With the ice beams and exploding hellfire (Lucifer special) all over the field you don’t even need to use attack. Works every time, especially if you get the Artemis/Demeter duo and either Artemis legendary or extra Chaos casts
This is a neat alternative. For me, I used the Aegis Shield with the Aspect of Chaos. My 1st Daedalus Hammer upgrade gave me the Pierce Shot, where my Bull Rush becomes a charged shot, and I used that to get the Pierced Butterfly achievement.
I've recently been trying the pierced butterfly with... Excalibur... Hey, I can't take any damage if they're already dead. I can only manage a 20 percent but that 20 percent is MASSIVE.
i was wondering, if i take Pierced butterfly or the trinker from Hermes, i clean room it goes up ok, but if i change it beetween world, did i loose the buff ?
My interpretation of Parting Shot is any additional bonuses you have from boons that apply to backstab, outside of Parting Shot, also apply to your cast, plus the 35% bonus.
@@raviolibirb8009 some of the hydra combinations can really f up the field as seen in this run when he gets hit by a pool of lava hidden directly under one of the heads, some of the special effects for armored enemies can be even more distracting and the extreme measures last stages against the fury sisters and hades have this annoying fog...rogue pink butterflies, multiple archers that are at the edge of the screen, small chariots spawning under you or out of sight next to you and thanatos' big circle on the floor that can make some projectiles hard to see...and all of these factors combined are not as annoying as getting bad hammers or boons on an aspect that really isn't effective nor fun to play. Imo the game isn't about not getting a perfect run and I imagine it to be quite a frustrating task that mostly relies on having the RNG god on your side
i think the boon does give you extra backstab damage, because the effect is your shot deals back stab damage, then the addition is the extra damage percentage overall im guessing, though it is very confusing, like that demeter boon where it says "all" enemies gotta be chill for the effect, but that sounds insane, why would you want an effect that only functions once you got all the enemies chilled
For the Demeter boon, its super easy. Only one or two enemies on screen? Decay takes effect. It's better thought of as a boon that works better on bosses.
@@fysean I mean what did you think? Did you honestly believe that every enemy throughout a run, both in the rooms you chose to take and those you didn't, needed to be chilled for it to have any effect? :P
@@hwdp2558 No im not. Also why dont you say who's your favourite instead of saying my choice is bad. I love Thans dialogues with Zag, his soundtrack is amazing, his design is amazing, I love how he sounds... When hes there its a big deal. I love that.
Yeah, agreed. I saw something someone posted in chat and got really pissed off. Massive story spoiler. No one's fault in particular, it's just that for a Rogue like this game is immensely story driven. It's not like Slay the Spire where there's not really anything to spoil per-se.
Cool videos man, I have to turn it off during the hades fight because i haven't beaten him just yet, hes tough! What's a good beginner weapon and combo to shoot for for 1st completion? i have a few of the weapon aspects unlocked.. Thanks for the vids they really help understand good strategies to try out!
I've been telling people Chiron or Zag bow more lately, although getting power shots can be hard to get used to. Try getting Artemis on special for Chiron or on attack for Zag!
Personally I went with shield, but I would imagine that an Aspect of Poseidon run with either Aphrodite, Poseidon or Artemis cast would be quite good as well. Shield is kinda wonky with most of it's aspects, so you'll either "get it" or be at a total loss I think ^^
Zag Aspect Spear with Artemis Speial and Exploding Special in Combination with athena Dash/Call is pretty good, you can just invinc during his psins and you build up your bar so fast you can practically spam it
@@doombybbr Nah I've only gone up to 15 heat and I find it one of the easier ones as well. You just have to keep in mind to get rerolls for the shop instead of rooms ^^ Btw I fucking love how malleable the difficulty is in this game. I tried finding the sweet spot for "common runs", but the only thing I keep consistent atm is having the attack/movement speed at max all the times so I don't get complacent :P
I've been having a blast with Demeter Aspect of Lucifer with a focus on spamming special and getting big explosions that slow everyone ^^ That being said, it's hardly fast and/or optimal, but it's fun
It's the same with plume though, and that shit is bonkers on retribution builds. They are comparatively way more useful trinkets than any of the other ones. And if you play well they will pay off well before you hit Asphodel (especially the butterfly). Personally I think Cerberus' Collar is boring, but that doesn't mean that it isn't nice that it is an option for people who just want to or need to tank a few more hits :)
Can Thanatos hurt you with his big attacks? I always avoid them and never want to test it out because often I'm using pierced butterfly and don't want to take the chance
@@fysean honestly pretty underwhelming in the base game, although I do remember seeing a mod that let you cook them into dishes with the chef that would apply a bonus to your next run. The buffs are actually pretty interesting too. One lets you "eat" boons for an increase in health, there's a set that basically acts like the god keepsakes, one that gives you 99 casts but doesn't let you recover them, and one that basically acts as a reverse "family favorites, which increases damage based on the number of boons you have from your highest god. Here's a link if you're interested. www.nexusmods.com/hades/mods/68
Can you make a build where you take lots of damage? That apparently is my play style.
This i guess ruclips.net/video/1Rhu1p0Ck9M/видео.html
Vengence build ✨
Try a spin build on Guan Yu. You need Quick Spin then either of the other two. Flying is better for healing imo, Massive is better for raw damage. Then just line up your special with your spin projectile and enemies fall like flies.
Lol I loved u point it out. It’s my play style too. I played one with twin fist, I got the weapon perk where u take less damage when attacking. I think that’s pretty good
I had no idea what Supergiant Games was until I ran into Eurydice for the first time. "Oh, they're the ones who made Bastion?" Ashley Barrett's voice and Darren Korb's music is just so recognizable. Love it. Oh, and Darren also voices Zagreus. Blows my mind.
Darren also voices skelly, and sings for Orpheus.
@@XIJAMMIEIX I knew he was the singing voice of Orpheus, but I had no idea he voiced Skelly, too. Dude's a freakin' genius.
@@Mazra42 I swear to god, these indie devs really managed to pull off a 10/10 masterpiece.
Darren also has the in house speedrun record, apparently. Dude *IS* Zagreus.
Dude destroyed Theseus and Minotaur without taking damage and I'm over here getting fucked with two dd's and a full hp.
And Charon
Almost everything in Hades is based on real (generally slightly obscure) versions of greek myths. I was actually bitching to a friend that in the version of Zagreus's story where he is Persephone's son Zeus is his father, and he eventually becomes Dionysus, which was the mystery promulgated by the Orphic cult, so I was pretty amused when Dionysus suggested playing a prank on Orpheus by telling him they were actually the same god. I got outplayed.
Anyway, in myth Zeus and Poseidon tended to be closer than most of the gods, and in stories that evidently happen chronologically earlier because they explain natural phenomena (for example the seasons, which the story of Persephone explain) Zeus especially tends to try to include Hades in that fraternal bond. I also really liked when Zeus told Zag to relay to Hades that Zeus "forgave him" and that he was welcome back on Olympus. It's the right mix of completely self-absorbed arrogance and well-meaning benevolence that characterises most of the poets' myths of Zeus. Zeus arranging the abduction of Persephone specifically also comes from myth but I don't know of a version where Hades was not the abductor.
39:52
The vases will gradually be destroyed, with a glowing aura around the one he’s currently destroying, once destroyed he restores 1500 health and moves onto the next. Destroying a vase by yourself will NOT cause him to regen, but will cause him to try another. He only destroys a few vases. He uses the move at the start of phase 2-2 and randomly during phase 3
This makes much more sense
Ok for the urns = After a certain period of time he will heal for each urn that was not destroyed to a maximum of 3 i believe
Good to know, although you may see RUclips Haelian not acknowledge this for a bit...
@@Haelian haha even when knowing i still forget to get rid of the urns when i have the chance
Wait, what?!
i keep getting to 28% and absolutely tanking in Elysium BEGGING the rng gods to send me the charged special and athena dash boons, bless up for the inspiration man
i did it!! (had to go no heat though) thank u damp dad
I always run Aspect of Lucifer with Demeter’s keepsake to try and get her cast. With the ice beams and exploding hellfire (Lucifer special) all over the field you don’t even need to use attack. Works every time, especially if you get the Artemis/Demeter duo and either Artemis legendary or extra Chaos casts
No hit Charon? Okay, it's clear now, we're not playing the same game. XD
Two years after this came out, seeing haelian roll away from hyper sprint was truly wild.
Twas a different time.
This is a neat alternative. For me, I used the Aegis Shield with the Aspect of Chaos. My 1st Daedalus Hammer upgrade gave me the Pierce Shot, where my Bull Rush becomes a charged shot, and I used that to get the Pierced Butterfly achievement.
I've recently been trying the pierced butterfly with... Excalibur...
Hey, I can't take any damage if they're already dead. I can only manage a 20 percent but that 20 percent is MASSIVE.
Interesting...
I got it to 32 percent once. It was a 0 heat run, I was probably using Hera but might have been with the Talos fists too i dont remember.
i was wondering, if i take Pierced butterfly or the trinker from Hermes, i clean room it goes up ok, but if i change it beetween world, did i loose the buff ?
@@mdjv yes if go through with the butterfly or hermes trinket , get bonuses, then remove the trinket between areas... you lose everything you gained
@@mdjv yes
My interpretation of Parting Shot is any additional bonuses you have from boons that apply to backstab, outside of Parting Shot, also apply to your cast, plus the 35% bonus.
Yea I’m reading it that all backstab bonus’s now affect your cast, and you get a flat backstab damage bonus %
The only thing that motivates me to fight hades over and over is the music
*My god that is good shit*
I'm pretty sure Body Slam is a shove pushing one enemy into another.
Hades HEALING? SUMMONING CERBI?! PHASE FUCKING THREE!?!?!
Well, still got waaay to go!
yeah i have 90 hours in this and still very much learning stuff
Tips for Guan Yu aspect in general? I always struggle with it... Unless I'm running this exact build and just never getting hit.
Putting Athena on the attack and spamming spins isn't so bad, the spins will deflect everything coming toward you. Try to get Quick Spin ad a hammer.
There was no hope for me until I upgraded Guan Yu fully, then focused on picking up hearts when I can.
34:00 you got the backstab message and increased damage. so all dmg confirmed
Nice.
Tfw your cloud save got lost during one of the updates when you had no internet so you're forced to start over from scratch.
Sorry to hear that! I have my savefile uploaded to speedrun.com/hades if it helps at all.
@@Haelian THAT ACTUALLY REALLY DOES THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAD NO IDEA!!
@@Haelian lol now I just need to figure out how to traverse the website.
Nvm found it! Thank you so much, I'm so, so happy I subbed to you. Now I gotta go back and spam like every video you've ever posted lmao.
i hae the fact that you can be hit without seeing the attack, it happens soooo much in this game compared to alot of other games
Wdym
@@raviolibirb8009 some of the hydra combinations can really f up the field as seen in this run when he gets hit by a pool of lava hidden directly under one of the heads, some of the special effects for armored enemies can be even more distracting and the extreme measures last stages against the fury sisters and hades have this annoying fog...rogue pink butterflies, multiple archers that are at the edge of the screen, small chariots spawning under you or out of sight next to you and thanatos' big circle on the floor that can make some projectiles hard to see...and all of these factors combined are not as annoying as getting bad hammers or boons on an aspect that really isn't effective nor fun to play.
Imo the game isn't about not getting a perfect run and I imagine it to be quite a frustrating task that mostly relies on having the RNG god on your side
i've just been binge watching your videos after discovering hades
4:35 I think the word you where looking far was "occupational"
i think the boon does give you extra backstab damage, because the effect is your shot deals back stab damage, then the addition is the extra damage percentage overall im guessing, though it is very confusing, like that demeter boon where it says "all" enemies gotta be chill for the effect, but that sounds insane, why would you want an effect that only functions once you got all the enemies chilled
For the Demeter boon, its super easy. Only one or two enemies on screen? Decay takes effect. It's better thought of as a boon that works better on bosses.
Callum Parkes damn wait it just means on screen? I need this for bosses. I’ve avoided taking it till now.
Definitely good in that situation.
@@fysean I mean what did you think? Did you honestly believe that every enemy throughout a run, both in the rooms you chose to take and those you didn't, needed to be chilled for it to have any effect? :P
@@Micras08 no,since rooms take up more than a screen, i thought youd have to chill all the enemies in an encounter, no need to be a dick.
So the Thanatos keepsake IS viable! I was gonna ask because he is my favorite character along with Zag
@@hwdp2558 No im not. Also why dont you say who's your favourite instead of saying my choice is bad.
I love Thans dialogues with Zag, his soundtrack is amazing, his design is amazing, I love how he sounds...
When hes there its a big deal. I love that.
@@hwdp2558 gotta agree with Mare Mare. I love Thanatos.
Nah thanatos is annoying and gay
@@oros321 he is, and it is awsome
Than is just a tsundere
Damn I gotta stop watching these until I get the full ending
Yeah, agreed. I saw something someone posted in chat and got really pissed off. Massive story spoiler. No one's fault in particular, it's just that for a Rogue like this game is immensely story driven. It's not like Slay the Spire where there's not really anything to spoil per-se.
what did you expect
'Any' bonuses you already have
+35% from parting shot for everything else and the cast
That is what it says.......
Cool videos man, I have to turn it off during the hades fight because i haven't beaten him just yet, hes tough! What's a good beginner weapon and combo to shoot for for 1st completion? i have a few of the weapon aspects unlocked.. Thanks for the vids they really help understand good strategies to try out!
I've been telling people Chiron or Zag bow more lately, although getting power shots can be hard to get used to. Try getting Artemis on special for Chiron or on attack for Zag!
i go for fists of malphon because they give you a flat bonus to evade, couple that with ambent plume and you can get a lot of dodge
Personally I went with shield, but I would imagine that an Aspect of Poseidon run with either Aphrodite, Poseidon or Artemis cast would be quite good as well. Shield is kinda wonky with most of it's aspects, so you'll either "get it" or be at a total loss I think ^^
I find the adamant rail the easiest, but maybe I'm weird
Zag Aspect Spear with Artemis Speial and Exploding Special in Combination with athena Dash/Call is pretty good, you can just invinc during his psins and you build up your bar so fast you can practically spam it
I love that you stopped to listen to In The Blood!
Does anyone know where I can find the extreme measure phase 3 stand alone music?
I believe it's on youtube called Unseen One.
@@Haelian Thank you good sir, I assumed it would be the same as the original.
karmaofgood it’s on Spotify too
Nice run! I've only gotten up to 28% on pierced butterfly with 11 heat
Does it reset when you take damage? Or can u continue with it and just not get the 2% in that room?
Just skips the 2% for that room
@@Haelian thank you
How do u get ur spear to do so much dmg i have the guan yu aspect and it does like 60 and not 500
Informative and entertaining. Thanks bro.
16:57 LMAO
Wait... Why do you "have to" sell a boon when you clear a boss? Is there any benefit from it?
It's a pact of punishment we took, one of the easier ones I'd say now.
@@Haelian You know someone plays on high heat when they consider losing a boon to be one of the easier pact options.
@@doombybbr Nah I've only gone up to 15 heat and I find it one of the easier ones as well. You just have to keep in mind to get rerolls for the shop instead of rooms ^^
Btw I fucking love how malleable the difficulty is in this game. I tried finding the sweet spot for "common runs", but the only thing I keep consistent atm is having the attack/movement speed at max all the times so I don't get complacent :P
@@Micras08 I find it interferes with getting OP boon setups.
what is the importance of marking the skill at the end of the run? it do something?
Nah just to show others
When I fight against charon, the pillars are broken two by two, just how?
I think when this was recorded, there was some bug where the pillars didn't break some times. I believe there are patch notes that say it was fixed.
How did you get your health to start at 50? I maxed out the mirror one that gives you extra health, but i still started at 30...
Hmm might have to level up the aspect more?
Cerberus keepsake will up your hp too
I can’t beat this god damn game. I have like 100 runs and just got to hades. Should I start a new file?
Is there anyway to make the shattered shackles keepsake good?
Can you recommend build for Lucifer Aspect, please? I find that railgun the weakest link.-.
Zeus still works well with it on attack, throw out a special while reloading to maximize efficiency. Best hammer is probably flash fire or piercing.
I've been having a blast with Demeter Aspect of Lucifer with a focus on spamming special and getting big explosions that slow everyone ^^ That being said, it's hardly fast and/or optimal, but it's fun
Also, I think it's dumb that you gotta have the trinket on literally the entire run for it to be any use.
It's the same with plume though, and that shit is bonkers on retribution builds. They are comparatively way more useful trinkets than any of the other ones. And if you play well they will pay off well before you hit Asphodel (especially the butterfly).
Personally I think Cerberus' Collar is boring, but that doesn't mean that it isn't nice that it is an option for people who just want to or need to tank a few more hits :)
Can Thanatos hurt you with his big attacks? I always avoid them and never want to test it out because often I'm using pierced butterfly and don't want to take the chance
Nah Than cant hurt you.
🤣 could you imagine trying to avoid that huge circle of 9999 damage! That would suck!
is there a way to get asterius in all runs?
Go thru the boss doors
I dont think there's a way to guarantee him over the butterfly ball unfortunately.
Have you reached max rank with the resources guy yet?
Just did it yesterday!
Is there a game achievement or it’s just a challenge?
there’s an achievement for getting 30% damage on than keepsake i believe
@@jack04dp yep
@omegavveapon you wot m8?
Body Slam is an enemy colliding into another enemy btw.
"Bbfkfnfkeoddn" that's all folks!
why he sell so often stuff even if got lot of cash?
Pact of punishment. One of the things on there basically requires you to sell a boon before moving on
Can anyone tell me what the fishes do?
Trade them with the chef. Depending what fish you get keys, ambrosia, etc
@@fysean honestly pretty underwhelming in the base game, although I do remember seeing a mod that let you cook them into dishes with the chef that would apply a bonus to your next run.
The buffs are actually pretty interesting too. One lets you "eat" boons for an increase in health, there's a set that basically acts like the god keepsakes, one that gives you 99 casts but doesn't let you recover them, and one that basically acts as a reverse "family favorites, which increases damage based on the number of boons you have from your highest god.
Here's a link if you're interested.
www.nexusmods.com/hades/mods/68
Wtf is that pierced butterfly boon?
Thanatos gives you a keepsake once you give him a nectar “Every time you clear a room without taking damage. Gain a % of damage”