"Jiu Jitsu Destroyed my Body" // How To STOP This Happening to YOU...

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @rodrigorodrighi9098
    @rodrigorodrighi9098 Год назад +224

    I’ve been training Bjj for quite long time, one aspect is often overlooked is the weight difference between you and your training partners. In my gym I’m the smallest at a fit 72kg, if you train consistently with people with 20kg+ weight difference, you will pay the toll and get injured. Even if you are reasonably looking after each other during sparring. And keep in my mind I usually end up on top 👍🏻 train smart, pick training partners closer to your size, if you can

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +17

      This is a very good point

    • @rodrigorodrighi9098
      @rodrigorodrighi9098 Год назад +2

      @@KierenLefevrekeep up the great content brother 🤙🏻 been following you since your first podcast

    • @ws43
      @ws43 Год назад +6

      Amen, sir. Got some big bois at my gym as well. "Richard" got 4 of my injuries simply because he's 140kgs of gorilla strength.

    • @Svarog8666
      @Svarog8666 Год назад +3

      Yeah as a beginner (1month into bjj), at 67 kg i really feel that my joints are already hurting training with guys who are over 80, 90 kg.

    • @alexpointon784
      @alexpointon784 Год назад

      Literally just dislocated my toe going with a 120kg guy yesterday 😅

  • @Smadders
    @Smadders Год назад +127

    Great video, thanks Kieren!
    I'm a 36 year old brown belt and I've been training for 12 years. One thing that has been game changing for me is doing a week of no rolling every 4-6 weeks, typically at the same time as my de-load week from lifting.
    I take this time to drill new stuff, watch people roll or do other active recovery. But it gives my body a chance to heal all those small niggles that build up over 4-6 weeks of intense training.
    Then once or twice a year I do 2 weeks active rest- no weight lifting and no jiu jitsu. Maybe I'll do some yoga, jogging, cycling, climbing etc. I always come back feeling awesome and my joints thank me for it!

    • @EthanNoble
      @EthanNoble Год назад +2

      Yeah that dude didn’t mention lifting did he

    • @Monkey_slapping_keys
      @Monkey_slapping_keys Год назад

      Actually really solid advice.

    • @marlonscloud
      @marlonscloud Год назад +1

      Great advice here

    • @Isa-wz5qm
      @Isa-wz5qm Год назад +1

      I do grappling and kali. I just take Ramadan off, just stretch during that month. It helps greatly on the body

    • @Rip_Ripple
      @Rip_Ripple Год назад +1

      I'm pretty much the same way. I'll train good for about a month, then I'll take two weeks off to recover. I'll also add that I don't roll with people that go 150 percent, regardless of rank.

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane Год назад +54

    I have a close friend in his 40s who is a purple belt. He has taken a lot of damage over his training. He is very fit. Talking the other day, he said that now he will not train with white belts and will not train with anyone bigger than him. The labor of love will only take you so far.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +8

      This is also true for many thank you for the comment

    • @colincharles9034
      @colincharles9034 Год назад +8

      I agree, nobody over 20lbs heavier for me and that's max. And yea white belts are fun for tapping but the new ones go way to hard and put a serious risk of injury on a roll.

    • @torotheplumber3788
      @torotheplumber3788 7 месяцев назад +1

      although this video is good advice...being 40 with a family is different. BJJ has given me a lot of positives but you will get some serious life altering injuries. It is inevitable

  • @bossman674
    @bossman674 Год назад +202

    Couldn’t agree more with Dorian develops. I’m 74kg and I’ve been lifting for a very long time. I’m genuinely strong for my size and have never had injuries from lifting. In 8 months BJJ of training, I’ve already injured both my elbows, my wrist, my fingers and had my knee blown out by someone jumping guard on me and ripping my medial and meniscus apart. I’m a concisous training partner, but others aren’t. Tbh, it’s not spoken about enough - you only hear about the ‘gentle art’, the community, how incredible it is… it’s absolute nonsense - people need to be honest about the injuries. The spinal manipulation, the wrenching of joints, neck, jaw, limbs etc… it’s all skimmed over. I’m with Dorian develops on this… one more injury and I’m calling it quits. Tbh, I’ve also done Muay Thai for two years and have never had an injury.

    • @EagleTrue
      @EagleTrue Год назад +74

      Perhaps you need to change your club. It's too much injuries for such a short period. It's not normal

    • @bossman674
      @bossman674 Год назад +27

      @@EagleTrue honestly I think you may be right. I’m constantly injured, and it’s because of white belts cranking subs and wrenching limbs to get the tap… not sure wtf is happening

    • @pymebones
      @pymebones Год назад +19

      I'm not saying you aren't doing any of this, but just in case: tap early, tap often (and that means to tap preemptively sometimes). Also, don't hold your grips forever, it will wreck your fingers. Finally, maybe try doing more no-gi. In time, I've found that gi training wrecks my body much more. All this, in addition to everything that's said in in this video, and also, as the previous reply said, consider switching teams if you find you're constantly getting injured by spazzy white belts. That's unacceptable. Best regards

    • @jeffgat
      @jeffgat Год назад +12

      Having that experience in only 8 months is pretty bad bro. I'm 10 years of muay thai into 2.5+ years of BJJ now. Gyms cultures vary wildly just like in striking. You'll have your gyms that pull punches and "show" hard strikes, and then your gyms that will have stand and bang wars every session. It sounds like your guys are the latter equivalent in BJJ, rolling hard to win rounds rather than learn. You'll always run into these types of people but I find it helps to set the pace. Roll technically, when you get into subs, say an arm bar, see how long you can hold them there without hipping in. If they're overly spazzy and muscle-y, give them what they want and go with their movements. Let them put you in bad positions and find another way out. Ultimately though, if it's most of your rolls, I'd suggest finding a new gym.

    • @Galuche1L1U
      @Galuche1L1U Год назад +8

      For all the shit a lot of Gracie Barra gyms get, I think they might be right about how they approach training their white belts. They'll dedicate 2 weeks at a time per main basic positions (closed guards, side control, mount and back control) and limit the sparring to that position. If someone escapes, you reset into that position.
      You end up with a decently well-rounded game after your first couple of months and I think it prevents white belts from shredding each others a little bit. Though I thought they lacked in stand-up training, I wished they did it more like judo with varying degrees of drilling and waaaay more break falling practice.
      Anyway, rant over.

  • @PavelRogala
    @PavelRogala Год назад +42

    I came into BJJ from powerlifting at a fairly high level and I can say with confidence that it's one of the reasons I haven't dealt with many injuries on the mat. Great video.

  • @PUREGRAPP
    @PUREGRAPP Год назад +9

    It's all a matter of perspective. Any sport can destroy your body. I am in my late 40's and I am a black belt in jiu-jitsu. I have trained BJJ and grappling for 22 years and also wrestled many years and did judo and sambo. I won a few world titles in BJJ and still compete every now and then. The resistance training is definitely a must for greater longevity and so are carefully selected resting periods.

  • @tritt78
    @tritt78 Год назад +8

    Yes brother, as a Physical Therapist and someone who loves jiu jitsu, I was totally thinking all these things watching that video. Thanks for spreading the awareness!

  • @humanityenslaved3380
    @humanityenslaved3380 Год назад +30

    3 years in I feel 20 years older than I should. I will do this. Thank you brother

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +2

      absolutely man thank you for the comment!

  • @aspenbutler4414
    @aspenbutler4414 Год назад +5

    Brown belt here. Competed for over 10 years as well. No injuries except a broken rib luckily. Make sure you take care of your body first

    • @MajorLeagueTenacity
      @MajorLeagueTenacity Год назад

      Did you live in the same place? How do you avoid aggressive training partners

    • @aspenbutler4414
      @aspenbutler4414 Год назад

      @@MajorLeagueTenacity yes. And we get a lot of guys from college that wrestle. The biggest thing is tapping early and often. And keeping your body in a position where it will stay safe. Most of my training partners are very chill, which is where I spend most of my time. But the more aggressive guys you just worry about your own safety first. And it never hurts to tell a guy “hey man go easier on me, I don’t want to get hurt”

  • @danman6612
    @danman6612 Год назад +16

    No matter what strategy you implement, if you constantly go full contact in any sport it is going to put wear and tear on your body. These were great tips though as it will help minimize the risks as much as possible.

  • @kylebeckham3825
    @kylebeckham3825 Год назад +11

    It's amazing how many bjj guys do not take the time to lift. Even fewer will take the time to learn how to lift well, using tools like rate of perceived exertion/autoregulation, to maximize lifting efficiency while limiting fatigue. Lifting even just twice a week for 30 minutes in addition to rolling 3-5 times a week using RPE/autoregulation will do a great deal to help prevent injury. Even taking taking concepts like RPE and autoregulation and applying them to time on the mats will prevent many of the issues that bjj practitioners can control for. However, this requires people to have to tamp down the ego: less ego rolling, less ego lifting. However, your time on the mats over a longer horizon will be longer because you won't be out injured!

    • @robcubed9557
      @robcubed9557 Год назад +2

      I've heard that many BJJ people don't lift/condition. However I've had the opposite experience, it seems that most of the people at my gym lift (quite a few will lift and train on the same day!).
      I've found that lifting has tremendously increased my BJJ abilities.

  • @Hjemmevet
    @Hjemmevet 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for this response video / tutorial. This is extremmely valuable lesson you giving oss and its much appreciated! Thank you

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  2 месяца назад

      Absolutely! 💪 thank you for the support bro!

  • @wishesandfishes
    @wishesandfishes Год назад +11

    I got a terrible hip injury from bjj 9 months in - cant say what i or my training partners were doing wrong, i was following a strength training routine at the time and we always warmed up. It's definitely not a low risk activity

    • @luiz9672
      @luiz9672 9 месяцев назад

      How did it happen if nothing wrong was done?

  • @BartoszZasieczny
    @BartoszZasieczny Год назад +8

    I've supplemented BJJ with weigtlifting with a PT for more than 2 years. I tore my ACL in march - after 3 months I was back on the mats with only a "conservative" treatment (physiotherapy + contuinued weightlifting, strtching and I've swapped driving everywhere by car for a bicycle). Weightlifting can save you from injuries and when they happen they are less catastrophic. After 5 months my ACL-deficient knee feels almost normal and does not show any instability.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      100% man that's awesome to hear you were able to bounce back strong

    • @roxicartoons8690
      @roxicartoons8690 Год назад

      Are you not looking to do a surgery any time soon?

    • @BartoszZasieczny
      @BartoszZasieczny Год назад

      @@roxicartoons8690 the knee is stable and I have no pain. I train 6-7x per week (4-5 bjj, 2 times weight lifting) and sometimes muscles around the knee get stiff, but this is very occasional. If it gets worse I'll reconsider doing a surgery, but for know I do not feel the need - and recent research shows that 1. some people regain full knee function with only conservative threatment (so called "copers"), 2. doing the surgery does not lower the risk of osteoarthritis. Reconstruction would put me off mats for ~1 year and I have no guarantee that it will be successful.

    • @stonwall9065
      @stonwall9065 Год назад

      Happy for you. God provides. That is very good news

  • @gustavofares7636
    @gustavofares7636 Год назад +16

    This vídeo is incredible! Better than a lot of jiu jitsu "coaches" around the world! Thanks a lot man! Your video reached Brazil! 🇧🇷

  • @sethmck3011
    @sethmck3011 Год назад +3

    Solid video. Definitely areas that are overlooked by most BJJ coaches, but are basics for any serious fitness program.

  • @WLowry
    @WLowry Год назад +2

    This is very helpful. Learning everything from this video since I'm coming back to bjj.

  • @eliasabreu5169
    @eliasabreu5169 9 месяцев назад +1

    one of the best advices in a bbj channel💪

  • @annabananainthe9045
    @annabananainthe9045 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this. I’ve returned to the dojo after a very long hiatus and realize I need to change up some things. Great advice!

  • @shebginer1671
    @shebginer1671 Год назад +1

    Awesome message and added value @kieren - Thank you for putting this out there

  • @SeamusMcMichael
    @SeamusMcMichael 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm just about to begin my BJJ journey, so happy that I ran into this video.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  11 месяцев назад

      hell yeah bro, I never looked back 💪

  • @JK-nh6jp
    @JK-nh6jp Год назад +3

    I really appreciate the lifting segments. I was considering paying somebody for a lifting program for jitsu and this answered a lot of initial questions.
    That said, it's always funny to see totally jacked guys saying "These are things you can do to prevent injury." Like yeah bro i bet it's easy when you're the hammer :P

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      You too can become a hammer and all you see are nails 😅

  • @-DMD-
    @-DMD- Год назад +2

    Great video, those apply to any sport, not just bjj. I'd also add "know your partner". Go flow/hard with the buddies you know, be overly cautious with new people. (be them any belt)

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      absolutely agree! We all have a responsibility to keep ourselves and our training partners safe

  • @jordanguyatt9404
    @jordanguyatt9404 Год назад +4

    This channel is going to blow up mate, keep it up.

  • @adammcnamara5027
    @adammcnamara5027 Год назад +5

    52, purple belt, 4yr’s of Jit i train 6 Jits sessions a week plus 6 conditioning session’s including 4 weight sessions 20 min stretch every day and 5 30min sauna. But this also includes a life time of conditioning from the age of 16.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      damn bro you're actually a freaking BEAST holy shit

    • @dubstepXpower
      @dubstepXpower Год назад +1

      How do you have time for work 🤣?

    • @adammcnamara5027
      @adammcnamara5027 Год назад +1

      @@dubstepXpower own my own PT business and fit in 6-7hr’s a day work starting at 4:30am and finishing at 7:30pm. Making work isnt hard just become’s life.

    • @adammcnamara5027
      @adammcnamara5027 Год назад +2

      @@KierenLefevre not really im sure you do the same mate, ive followed you for a while and u live the same way. As you my life revolves around health and fittnes and helping other be better. Be awesome if you came up and trained at our gym on the Gold Coast.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      @@adammcnamara5027 Gold Coast you say? Hell yeah I'm keen to come by

  • @SuperUniqueHandle
    @SuperUniqueHandle Год назад +16

    I've been doing all of this for years and I'm in the best shape of my life. Unfortunately I still got injured due to poor technique (posted on my arm when falling backwards and dislocated my shoulder). Now I can't train or lift for 3-6 months. Absolutely devastated.

    • @enbonj5842
      @enbonj5842 Год назад +3

      I feel ya I got my rotator cuff torn by my training partner. Was a shock to the system not being able to train for so lonf

    • @SuperUniqueHandle
      @SuperUniqueHandle Год назад

      Dang, how long did it take to recover?@@enbonj5842

    • @pizzarollsvivi
      @pizzarollsvivi Год назад

      @@enbonj5842how did it feel? my shoulder feels loose and hurts in awkward positions

  • @doxdos98
    @doxdos98 Год назад +2

    Purple belt here 🤙🏽 BJJ is a blast but you will pay your dues in injuries!

  • @TechEUC
    @TechEUC Год назад +1

    Thanks a mill... subscribed!!

  • @MgelikaXevi
    @MgelikaXevi Год назад +1

    great advice.
    But many cases of injuries are often tied to your sparring partners. Fitness and flexibility is just an extra layer of defense you can put between you and idiots.
    Eventually you will realize that the main goal is probably to find a place where coach is super attentive, number of ppl is small, and they are all adequate partners who do think about longevity.

  • @yeevelyndeng4563
    @yeevelyndeng4563 Год назад +1

    Excellent clear and concise video. Thanks!

  • @TheKG636
    @TheKG636 6 месяцев назад +1

    Getting injury after injury, it’s incredibly frustrating, latest one is my neck has been completely messed up for the last week.

  • @WarlordColossus
    @WarlordColossus Год назад +1

    after my last injury i decided to take weight lifting seriously, especially all the weak neglected points and im noticing an overall improvement, no injuries rolling and overall being more conscious on warm ups outside of the class warmup with mobility and stretching, on top of not training malnourished and dehydrated

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      That's freaking awesome man! This is the truth that people want to ignore because it requires hard work and discipline 💪

  • @jsb5449
    @jsb5449 Год назад +5

    That is priceless information. Nice to see you giving your expertise. After watching all your rolls with Jordan and him mentioning your knowledge in sports medicine. Now you're putting some real valuable content out there for body mantainence and what's necessary to minimize injury. I too have a background in fitness training and nutrition. The knowledge has preserved my body for many years now. I'm trying to spread the word to other combat sport practitioners so they can avoid negative affects of such a rough hobby on an improperly mantained body.

  • @linusji1732
    @linusji1732 Год назад +1

    These advices will help a bit but not prevent all injuries. The thing is, while you are progressing in the sport, you will try to find more ways to come out of a joint lock or a choke, you won't tap to things that early anymore, and you will put your joints in more stress than before. And if you compete than the risk is even higher.

  • @wluzuria
    @wluzuria Год назад +2

    1 month white belt here. It is indeed hard on your body, but nothing different than doing any ither sport at a decent level. I played basketball at a high level for almost 12 years and then recreationally, and after each game i felt like I was hit by a truck. I broke my meniscus, have back problems and my knees cant take a single basketball game any more. BJJ helped me feel competitive without the pain which has been great so far.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      Welcome to the BJJ Journey! Are you doing some S&C to strengthen the muscle around your knee?

    • @wluzuria
      @wluzuria Год назад

      @@KierenLefevre hey! Thanks for the reply. Yes! I need to, otherwise I couldn't do any sport.

  • @Leopar525
    @Leopar525 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this..! Need to implement pretty much everything you said unfortunately :) I love it too much to stop it

  • @phobowl
    @phobowl Год назад +2

    Excerpts tips. If I feel that lifting is mandatory in bjj. But also just train smart. At purple you should be aware of trouble situations and just tap.

  • @bigkurz
    @bigkurz Год назад +8

    Yeah I just started training three months ago but I’ve been lifting for ten plus years and I can tell it makes me much more durable (perhaps slightly less flexible though lol)

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      Yeah completely agree

    • @anklelocker2924
      @anklelocker2924 Год назад +1

      Do a single class of hot yoga a week and you’ll not only feel like a million bucks/aid in the recovery from jitz and lifting but I feel like it bulletproofs my tendons and joints as well as maintaining flexibility

  • @thebaneking4787
    @thebaneking4787 Год назад +1

    When I go back I’m going to make sure I have peptides in bulk. Jiu Jitsu destroyed my spine. But I love it. I need it. It’s part of me.

  • @jakeh2049
    @jakeh2049 Год назад +6

    Yeah I’ve had most injuries at white, and just learned to throttle down, put ego aside and just tap if I have to in order to avoid injuries. Also proper warm up, like actually breaking sweat before sparring more intensely.
    That said, now at blue I have been running into a new problem and that is recurring skin infections. Never had them before but all of a sudden it’s ridiculous and I feel like I’m off the mats more than 1/2 the time because of it.
    Maybe it’s because I forgot the frustration of missing time due to injuries, but the nonstop ringworm, staph, impetigo is really demoralizing me and making me wonder if I should take a break from jiujitsu.. really depressing.
    And yes, I shower immediately after at the gym, wash my gi/ gear first thing when I get home, I’ll even throw in tea tree oil in the wash. Our mats are cleaned regularly, I know cuz I oftentimes do it myself.. This just started happening to me, I wasn’t getting it before and even though I’m not the only one getting stuff, seems everyone is more the odd one off thing meanwhile I can’t make 1-2 weeks without something new popping up.

  • @12345628387
    @12345628387 Год назад +2

    honestly don't know how you dont have more subs always good content 🔥

  • @Alexander-rd7bi
    @Alexander-rd7bi Год назад +1

    got the training plan very fast. thank you.

  • @mullig13
    @mullig13 Год назад +3

    I have added a bunch of these into what will be my weekly strength and mobility session. I am looking forward to seeing the results :)

  • @adoman3
    @adoman3 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thx Bro 👍

  • @Leo_machados
    @Leo_machados 5 месяцев назад

    I feel like having good training partners will also make a huge difference and in training just tap early ur ego isn’t worth the injuries

  • @alvarocarreragutierrez4987
    @alvarocarreragutierrez4987 Год назад +1

    Thank You!

  • @lb8313
    @lb8313 29 дней назад

    Been lifting the past 3 ish years. Injuries went away. BJJ game went up. Until I had an insta leg break on an inside leg trip gone wrong on me. Seriously reconsidering BJJ.

  • @PrincipeFarlos
    @PrincipeFarlos Год назад +1

    Great video my friend! When i neded it the most… hug from Uruguay ❤

  • @TheTomryan123
    @TheTomryan123 Год назад

    Everything he said is SO important.

  • @renato.bakaadv
    @renato.bakaadv Год назад +1

    Thank you my friend

  • @GRFITNESSPRO
    @GRFITNESSPRO Год назад

    I used to train jjb, now judo. In reality, this is a mix between ego ( don't tap ), and yes, joint and mobility work.

  • @TheLogsEffect
    @TheLogsEffect Год назад +1

    Experienced BJJ for the first time about 1 month ago. I’m quite a small guy at 5’2” and 40kg. I made the huge mistake of rolling with an experienced BJJ guy who was 6’ and twice my weight. Thank God I walked away with rib cage contusions. Could’ve been way worse. If the guy had gone full force on me, I would be dead. Now I know better than to spar with bigger opponents and I know what I need to do to prepare physically.

    • @Tato9412
      @Tato9412 Год назад +1

      Lol why would you even do that at such starting level 😂

    • @TheLogsEffect
      @TheLogsEffect Год назад +1

      @@Tato9412 I just wasn’t thinking through my options during the class. I’m surprised the instructor didn’t try to stop me from rolling with the big guy.

  • @alexsilvacorp
    @alexsilvacorp Год назад +1

    Thanks mate, this is pretty good.

  • @ws43
    @ws43 Год назад +5

    3 years and nearly at purple. Probably... a dozen or so minor injuries? Not too bad. I love that this video gives fantastic advice. Thank you!

  • @alevieirareis
    @alevieirareis Год назад +1

    Great stuff! Thank you!

  • @ALIVE-Company
    @ALIVE-Company Год назад +1

    This is the best way to protect yourself off the mat, should do a video of on the mat safety!

  • @alepho4089
    @alepho4089 Год назад +1

    Excellent advice. Straight to the point. No nonsense. This is why I'm subscribed.

  • @samuelhoffmann6168
    @samuelhoffmann6168 11 месяцев назад +1

    Incredible video 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

  • @TrojanMan321
    @TrojanMan321 11 месяцев назад

    One thing for me has been to not work from the guard as much. That is a young mans game. Working from guard will get you stacked on your neck and put more pressue on your back. In addition to taxing ankle and knees. Instead, work positional dominance

  • @fernandojsantos09
    @fernandojsantos09 Год назад +1

    I watched to Dorian's video. According to him, his body got too much injuried, but all the video he didn't had a consistency, did not workout properly, the majority of his training sessions were a championship... Due these decisions, obiviously he would get injuried, it's really important to take care of your body. Jiu jitsu it's not just about being a training champion, but be better each day and consistent.
    This is just my opinion about Dorian's speech, I could be wrong about what was said.

  • @JoshTerrellWill
    @JoshTerrellWill Год назад +1

    New to the channel and to Jiujitsu, thanks for the great info!

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      Welcome! Thank you for the comment 👊

  • @josephsmith9414
    @josephsmith9414 Год назад +1

    I'm watching this out of work with a torn pectoral that I had surgery for

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      damn bro I hope you have a speedy recovery!

  • @thehandseesall
    @thehandseesall 10 месяцев назад

    I stopped training due to a neck injury that I have now recovered from, plus I was at a very clean gym, but most of it's members had disgusting infected toe nails and feet in general, I had no desire to catch whatever they caught, so one day I left... I now doubt that I will ever return

  • @healtheworld2059
    @healtheworld2059 Год назад

    Great video ❤ Thanks

  • @shelbukowski1443
    @shelbukowski1443 Год назад +4

    fuget about it. I'm taking up guitar.

  • @wm6549
    @wm6549 Год назад +1

    Love your videos. Thank you!

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      Absolutely! 💪 thank you for the comment

  • @KungFuChess
    @KungFuChess 26 дней назад

    Injuries never go away they just sit there waiting for you to slip up again. Lifting helps but wont fix it unfortunatly

  • @johnmcdonagh374
    @johnmcdonagh374 Год назад +2

    Been training for about 5 years and i get injured about as much as the average tennis player or soccer player 😅 i mean its a sport. Sports weren't designed to be good for your body, they were designed to be fun. If you want to get in shape and avoid injuries, lift weights and ride a bike. If you love a sport, youll risk some injuries. If you really love BJJ you'll also adhere to preventative measures like tapping early, using proper technique, rolling wih partners you trust, having a good diet, having effective strength/conditioning and mobility routines. A lot of the guys saying they tried it for less than a year and that its fundementally a dangerous sport sounds like a whole lot of cognitive dissonance to me. Its fundamentally a difficult sport, and maybe you thought it was for you and then it just wasn't so you quit. Thats fine too. But if you really loved something you'd find a way.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      I totally agree with this man, awesome take on it

  • @kswiss6661
    @kswiss6661 10 месяцев назад +1

    Gotta do joint strengthening/strength and conditioning at least 1-2x a week if you're doing jujitsu and allow some rest and recovery days in the week otherwise you will tax your body very much and end up with allot of injuries.

  • @CJ-mm4gc
    @CJ-mm4gc Год назад +3

    I’ve been training in martial arts since I was six. jujitsu for over 15 years. And I just had my 54th birthday. I am a brown belt.
    People like Dorian get hurt more and more and quit because they put unrealistic expectations on themselves that they can’t live up to.

    • @Illustrator76
      @Illustrator76 Год назад +1

      That's not always the case or their faults though. Instructors need to learn how to properly promote older BJJ grapplers who are consistent and picking up the techniques but maybe can't go balls out on the mat every day with every person. You simply can't judge a 40 year old with a whole ass job, family, responsibilities, and slower recovery time the same way you can some hotshot 20 year old that can cut his own arm off and have it grow back the next day. Most older guys that I see pushing it are doing so because they want to get promoted, but the instructor is still judging the entire class like they're all young, indestructible, and have zero responsibilities, which often makes the older guys push themselves too hard and get hurt.

  • @lemmiwinks48
    @lemmiwinks48 Год назад +1

    Great vid

  • @stephenfinch5070
    @stephenfinch5070 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Kieren,
    Thanks for sharing your video! It brought back memories of my own BJJ journey, which I started in 2017 at the age of 48 in Beijing, China. I trained consistently until April/May 2023 and earned my blue belt in December 2022. During my time training, I had a blast, met amazing people, and learned a lot. However, I also suffered various minor and major injuries, including a persistent shoulder and rotator cuff issue stemming from decades of practicing Karate and Chinese martial arts. Unfortunately, these injuries forced me to quit BJJ, which I still regret.
    After watching your video, I'm contemplating a comeback, but I'm aware that I'll need at least six months of consistent conditioning to regain my form and overcome my current shoulder injury. I value your opinion and would love to hear your thoughts on my situation. Should I pursue a modified training program that addresses my injuries, or are there alternative martial arts that might suit me better? Your insights would be greatly appreciated.
    Stephen

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  10 месяцев назад

      Hey Stephen, thanks for the comment.
      I would recommend coming back as soon as you're cleared with your shoulder injury. In the mean time work within the recommendations laid out by your health care professional to:
      - Get strong
      - Get mobile
      - Improve stability and ROM
      - Conditioning
      I don't think doing another martial arts will solve your problem I think BJJ is the way to go (biased though, haha).

  • @BeepBoop2221
    @BeepBoop2221 Год назад

    I don't know if its something youve experienced but ive done some form of martial art from judo to eskrima and ive never been more injured than with bjj.
    Every single time it was other white belts "improvising".
    One guy almost broke both of my ankles trying to lift me out of a turtle.
    I've tweaked my wrist more times than i can count from being rolled on.
    I don't think its the fault of my coaches but its something ive noticed from BJJ.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      Yeah there is sometimes a lack of awareness for safety of movements and should definitely be address at the coach level. But it’s important that as individuals we prioritise mat safety of ourselves and our training partners (the turtle back take is a perfect example of a dangerous movement)
      Thanks for the comment 👊

  • @sirpibble
    @sirpibble Год назад +3

    I dont know why people think they can do not just this but high impact contact sports in general without doing rehab work
    But also generally for jiujitsu, theres always the risk of accidental injury if you zig when you shouldve zagged or you take a weird step, but if you're finding you are getting serious injuries with any kind of regularity then the problem is you, not jiujitsu
    This is a relatively safe sport contrary to what the goal of it seems to be
    There are some reckless decisions being made on the mat

  • @Jeffro5564
    @Jeffro5564 Год назад

    I haven’t damage my body yet mainly I don’t put 100% incase of injury in class and I know the guys in my BJJ class it’s only those that come in open mat are mainly ones I don’t trust

  • @timsebring4776
    @timsebring4776 Год назад +1

    Did weights (properly) for 30 years. Then I evolved and graduated to body weight exercises. It’s more fun, safer, and more effective - I gained 20 pounds of functional muscle and got stronger. The mobility and flexibility stuff here is good, just forget about the weights .

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      totally disagree. Both protocols can be effective but bodyweight exercises are not inherently superior to weight lifting for protective and strength development.
      The best exercise is the one you're going to do / enjoy so it's awesome that you found something you like doing

  • @theodoreconstantini2548
    @theodoreconstantini2548 Год назад +1

    Good video.

  • @TC_Personal
    @TC_Personal Год назад

    Say what you will about the Gracie's and other old Brazilian dudes like Jacare and Sauer, but the reason they're able to train into their 70s is because they take their overall health and nutrition very seriously.

  • @candyluna2929
    @candyluna2929 Год назад

    I am a woman and I am eager to begin training, not to compete. But I am hesitant bc of the injuries especially bc I have two small kids.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      Eager to begin training jiujitsu? I highly recommend it. I know a lot of women with kids who train BJJ

  • @etimezz
    @etimezz Год назад +5

    This video could not be more on point.
    Wrecking your body while training bjj is optional.
    I think the other side of this conversation is how one trains bjj. Some common, inter-related practices I've noticed that increase chances of injury are:
    1.) lack of variation in training intensity (only training hard)
    2.) training with high intensity while highly fatigued
    3.) technical/tactical/strategical selections that are inappropriate for one's abilities
    4.) poor execution of techniques that have higher demands for force output, hip mobility, or head position
    I think a video on these topics would be super helpful. I've noticed that a lot of bjj practitioners seem to take no notice of how their choices on the mats affects their bodies.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      I absolutely agree! Thank you for your comment 💪🏼

    • @etimezz
      @etimezz Год назад +1

      @@KierenLefevre Thanks for the awesome videos

  • @patrickes4540
    @patrickes4540 Год назад

    Nice stretching Routine. However as mentioned in another comment. Main issue is weight and experience difference. You cannot train your core and muscles for that or increase your mobility. In some gyms there are guys for manhandle lower ranks or lighter weighted people without ever competing in their weight class.
    My only solution is before joining a gym, check the Team and if possible in your Area go find a gym with guys with brains.
    Im in the happy position to have found a gym with a Very low amount of people who are "bullys"

  • @MichaelStanwyck
    @MichaelStanwyck Год назад

    This advice is fine as long as you’re treating jujitsu like it’s a straight sport. It’s not.
    Here are tips for preventing injury in jujitsu:
    Don’t train for your belt. Your belts will come. You cannot rush them by pushing harder.
    Tap early and tap often the best way to get injured in jujitsu is to think you are invincible.
    Love jujitsu more than you love winning. If you commit yourself to mastering dominance through technique only and are willing to tap any time you are don’t have a good answer to some thing, you will not get injured.
    Programs like this are easy because it’s not difficult to add strength training to your life.
    What’s hard is getting a hold of your ego. And most people get injured because they have no control over their ego

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      When you say that jiujitsu is not a sport, what do you mean by that? It's very much a full contact, combat sport.
      Your advice is good but it's not a "this OR that" it's more like a "both".
      When you say that most people get injured because they have no control of their ego I also disagree with this. I think that most people get injured through mistakes, miscalculations, accidents and yes on the odd occasion ego or spazzing.
      Don't build jiujitsu up to be some mystical thing that so long as you "know the secret" and "let go of your ego" and you'll be safe, it's just not what it is.

  • @TheObscureAlternative
    @TheObscureAlternative 11 месяцев назад

    The concept of the “ roll” requires a more philosophical approach. No combat based game should exclude philosophy of outcome, diet, yoga & breathing. I left rubber bricks & training knives lying around the floor , I’ve never seen a guard open so quickly. GJJ was defensive & offensive like chess, but the diet & spiritual ideas of Carlos were overlooked by the emergence of ego which led to vale tudo matches .

  • @lordsneed9418
    @lordsneed9418 Год назад +1

    Dorian could have done all of this and still ended up the same or only a bit better. If you want to learn how to beat people up and you start after your prime athletic years, the cost is that your joints and tendons and other body parts are likely going to get damaged. Look at people who have continued doing bjj until they're 50 and how they walk and move compared to people who have instead played tennis or just done general ditness until they're 50. The bjj guys walk like they're 70.
    The only way to definitely avoid that is to only spar soft , but then you won't know if you've really acquired the ability to beat people up. "I want to do bjj but I don't want to get injured" then don't do bjj, and definitely don't start it after your prime athletic years. The chance will likely happen at some point. if you start training in your teens and do everything sensibly then the risk is probably pretty low.

  • @salj.5459
    @salj.5459 Год назад

    The problem is most people are training with a completely wrong methodology. They focus on training muscles instead of training mobility, flexibility, joint health, and tendon/ligament strength

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      both are important imo

    • @salj.5459
      @salj.5459 Год назад

      @@KierenLefevre Yes, but when you train with a focus on joints and tendons, you will necessarily train your muscles. But you can train your muscles without necessarily improving the strength of your joints

  • @die2hryvni
    @die2hryvni Год назад +1

    Thanks a lot! Will try this. But still not sharing my email😂

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      That’s fine bro hit me up on dm and I’ll send you files directly

  • @natel9019
    @natel9019 Год назад +2

    The reason my body is fucked up from Ju Jitsu is because I didn’t tap.
    So my advice is tap.

  • @Siciliano9707
    @Siciliano9707 Год назад

    Hi, can you please share the exercises ? I can’t find the link in the comments.
    Thanks again 🙏

  • @VTVT1306
    @VTVT1306 10 месяцев назад

    During your first BJJ lesson we already had to spar or roll and my partner tore off my bicep with a lock.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  10 месяцев назад

      Oh shit really? that's really rough man

    • @VTVT1306
      @VTVT1306 10 месяцев назад

      @@KierenLefevre had to have surgery to recover. Bad class

  • @EfraimNkengurutse
    @EfraimNkengurutse 26 дней назад

    find a good gym
    good instructor
    good training partner
    good phylosphy that prevent injuries

  • @DDG-Downfall
    @DDG-Downfall 10 месяцев назад

    Flexibility = key

  • @BboyCorrosive
    @BboyCorrosive Год назад

    3:22 eeeveryone does this stretch incorrectly and bends the back, I personally prefer standing and a forward hinge, easier to keep the chest puffed out and isolates the hamstring a ton, plus zero effort as its more gravity based.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      I like using the 'toe hook' to pull my back up straight

    • @exarchoskanelis84
      @exarchoskanelis84 2 месяца назад

      If everyone is doing something different than you then maybe you are the one doing it wrong mate. Just saying

  • @zacharyhalladay1342
    @zacharyhalladay1342 10 месяцев назад

    Tap fast and often

  • @dktcs
    @dktcs Год назад

    i've been training for 10 years and i'm totaly destroyed lol.. i'm from brazil. tamo junto kkkk

  • @jesseraquel1813
    @jesseraquel1813 Год назад

    I've downloaded the work out program. Just wondering why there's no bench movements on it?

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад +1

      There are chest pressing variations:
      Phase 1, Day 1, Exercise 2, Floor Press.
      Phase 3, Day 1, Exercise 2, Glute Bridge Floor Press

  • @diegobriones9219
    @diegobriones9219 Год назад +2

    Thank you for making this video. All the respect to Dorian but when I saw that video I literally thought to myself that it is very unlikely that he was adequately taking care of his body throughout his BJJ journey (post-training stretching/ quality sleep and nutrition)
    Jits is obviously an injury risk but that is certainly reduced with focused care of your overall bodily health and strength/athleticism

    • @pymebones
      @pymebones Год назад

      Thing is, not everybody has the time to implement a fitness routine. The bad thing though, and what no one wants to hear, is that if you had to choose between either, you should choose fitness over BJJ. "Don't play sports to get fit; get fit to play sports".

    • @diegobriones9219
      @diegobriones9219 Год назад

      @@pymebones Most average people at any jits academy, if not, every person, has the time to enhance sleep quality (blackout curtains/limiting blue light before bed. etc.) eat veggies and whole foods/protein, and do a quick static stretch routine after class or before bed. Just those things alone will do wonders for the average Joe. Hands down.

  • @harshbutfair8993
    @harshbutfair8993 10 месяцев назад

    I thought this was going to be a safety video about jiu-jitsu, but it turns out it's a music video with a voiceover. 🤔

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  10 месяцев назад

      If you're interested in mat safety (positions to avoid, how to keep you and your partner safe etc) then I recommend the BJJ Mat Safety Course by Jordan Teaches Jiujitsu -> courses.jordanteachesjiujitsu.com/courses/bjj-mat-safety-course

  • @godeater6382
    @godeater6382 Год назад

    Im glad that this topic is getting more traction (about time!!). But your solutions are not very useful or specific, it's pretty straight forward.
    So the students don't need to change anymore, it's the instruction. Most warm ups are stupid and a workout in themselves, that needs to change. Warm ups should be mobility for joints and drills for technique.
    The next thing instructors need to teach is drilling. Every beginner should solely focus on drilling techniques and learning concepts. There is no point in them sparring/competing if they can't explain what a guard is or don't know what shrimps are for.

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  Год назад

      I couldn't disagree with you more strongly.

  • @tolowokere
    @tolowokere 9 месяцев назад

    Given the intense nature of jiu jitsu, wouldn't intense weight training exercise cause further deterioration of the body?

    • @KierenLefevre
      @KierenLefevre  9 месяцев назад

      Training intensity, load, and volume are all important for jiujitsu training. But when done correctly, weight training strengthens your body for jiujitsu.

  • @ExecutionSommaire
    @ExecutionSommaire Год назад

    If BJJ "saved his life", he probably got pretty obsessive with it so yeah poor recovery...
    But honestly, injury risk has also a lot to do with genetics, much like strength. The top athletes are gifted on both sides.