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  • @1MarkMoss
    @1MarkMoss  4 месяца назад +163

    Keep your Bitcoin safe from hackers with the Trezor Hardware wallet: go.1markmoss.com/trezor save $$ with my code MarkMoss
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    • @dimitarcvetkov2412
      @dimitarcvetkov2412 4 месяца назад +3

      Very nice work Mark

    • @MarkusGabriel-v6x
      @MarkusGabriel-v6x 4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for your time and Knowledge!🙏👑💰

    • @davidav3980
      @davidav3980 4 месяца назад +3

      where is the link to the last conference of Micheal Saylor that you refer to at the end of this video? I would like to watch it fully. Thanks in advance.

    • @seanatsnow
      @seanatsnow 4 месяца назад +1

      God Bless you Sir ❤ even More

    • @seanatsnow
      @seanatsnow 4 месяца назад +14

      Did the calculator link get taken down? I don't see it...

  • @charlieleonitus3515
    @charlieleonitus3515 2 месяца назад +18

    I think for most people, owning more than 1 BTC will be out of reach. And borrowing against BTC will be too risky until its worth at least $1 Million. Then you have enough of a buffer from interest rates and inflation. Or you just Buy as much as you can afford to now, then HODL as long as you can until you cant work anymore

  • @kyle9213
    @kyle9213 4 месяца назад +152

    Sounds like a good plan until the lending platform that you’re using goes bankrupt and you lose 75 percent of your btc, like what happened with Celsius.

    • @sean-kb4wr
      @sean-kb4wr 4 месяца назад +42

      Thats why people transfer their Bitcoin to a self custodial wallet

    • @joefunk76
      @joefunk76 4 месяца назад

      @@sean-kb4wrYou can’t self custody if you want to borrow against it. Be it via a smart contract or outright handing over your crypto to a lender, the price of this “retirement program” is handing over your keys to the outside entity that is going to require your bitcoin as collateral for your loans. The lender could go belly up, steal your crypto outright, or, if you hand it over to a smart contract, malfunction.

    • @BenDover-z9n
      @BenDover-z9n 4 месяца назад +7

      Let them. They buy bitcoin at the price they deserve, they lose it because of misuse. Bitcoin fixes everything, including itself.

    • @Lawliet734
      @Lawliet734 4 месяца назад +5

      @@sean-kb4wr Can I lose a self-custodial wallet?

    • @kyle9213
      @kyle9213 4 месяца назад +57

      You can’t self custody and simultaneously use it as collateral for a loan. That’s my point. In order to Borrow against btc, you have to give up self custody.

  • @lordshiplures
    @lordshiplures 4 месяца назад +14

    As soon as you input an interest rate of anything, this whole thing doesn’t work. Right now on Unchained Capital, the interest rate is around 12%. Where are you getting interest free loans from?

    • @fred6907
      @fred6907 4 месяца назад +6

      This whole model is just clickbait. You can't get interest free loans anywhere. I suspect the banks will require at least 10% interest once they start providing BTC backed loans, especially short term loans.

    • @Espana2028
      @Espana2028 4 месяца назад +1

      Im not sure who they is but they say “BTC loans will be so competitive that the market will more than likely reduce interest rates compared to the FED. Maybe 1-3%”

    • @TheBitcoinExperience
      @TheBitcoinExperience 4 месяца назад

      ​@@fred6907they might even charge less than 10% interest, since Bitcoin-backed loans are usually over collateralised, which means very little, if any risk to the lender, as they can liquidate the collateral and recover their funds.

    • @atrancik
      @atrancik 3 месяца назад +3

      I am getting interest free loans on Thorchain for BTC up to 50% TVL.

  • @alejandrosanzmartin2667
    @alejandrosanzmartin2667 4 месяца назад +14

    What platform do u use for the loans Mark? Swan, Ledn? Thanks, great vid.

  • @RandomStuff-zt6qf
    @RandomStuff-zt6qf 2 месяца назад +2

    19:25 that makes no sense, people still had landlines that you could've called.

  • @johnnyirving1274
    @johnnyirving1274 4 месяца назад +14

    Why don’t you add the APR required for these loans? Seems reasonable to account for an approximate APR as well.

  • @MarcelMcGowan
    @MarcelMcGowan Месяц назад +3

    Recently, I've been pondering retirement. I've also invested $800K on S&P 500 so i could secure my financial future. i need an approach to invest in Stocks like Nvidia stocks and ofcourse AI stocks that will align with my risk tolerance and financial goals but it seem to be bearish right now.

  • @seanmatthews8280
    @seanmatthews8280 3 месяца назад +1

    Only one problem with this formula, I did not buy $5000 worth of Bitcoin in 2011?

  • @stevedre1
    @stevedre1 4 месяца назад +2

    OK, Where do you leverage your BTC stack? Who offers the best interest rate? Who holds custody of you BTC when leveraged?

  • @DayTradingAddictss
    @DayTradingAddictss 4 месяца назад

    Hit 247k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months.Started with 11k in last year 2023.

  • @sonulgulati99
    @sonulgulati99 4 месяца назад +1

    Can you make a video explaining how you’d borrow against BTC?

  • @philconners8871
    @philconners8871 2 месяца назад +1

    Does this strategy have a name? PLEASE make a follow up with the practical details, like which companies provide these loans, and how it works.

    • @jctr4559
      @jctr4559 Месяц назад

      This won’t be free advice. This whole thing was a come on. They always leave you hanging.

  • @johansilkenaes8544
    @johansilkenaes8544 4 месяца назад +1

    Imagine when this money education is really shared with kids at school and what the world could become!

  • @nikol7951
    @nikol7951 4 месяца назад

    Excellent, clear description. Much appreciated Mark! Looking forward to reading your free Bitcoin Ebook as well!

  • @New_World_Assets
    @New_World_Assets 3 месяца назад +2

    Unfortunetly Bitcoin will disapipont a lot of people, you will see when you understand whats going on behid the scenes

  • @johnnyolavarria6560
    @johnnyolavarria6560 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for your presentstion. You’ve helped to further mold my perspective of money, and Bitcoin for sure! Again, thanks…

  • @ReesRetuta
    @ReesRetuta 4 месяца назад +1

    First time watching ur content. This info is great. More on loans with BTC content would be awesome. Curious the risks involved. Thanks

  • @teddykal5174
    @teddykal5174 4 месяца назад +1

    Couldn’t you call landlines ?

  • @cathyyang3127
    @cathyyang3127 11 дней назад

    Hi Mark, thanks for the video! Fantastic content. Would you mind providing the link to your calculator too? Tricky to scan QR code while I am watching it on my phone. Thanks!

    • @1MarkMoss
      @1MarkMoss  11 дней назад

      Retire off Bitcoin EBook: go.1markmoss.com/ytc-btc

  • @deanklein-kr6uc
    @deanklein-kr6uc 2 месяца назад

    Thanks, Mark . You do explain this strategy very well.

  • @AccessPassJoe
    @AccessPassJoe 4 месяца назад +3

    Where do I get these loans? What are the risks of these loans? Thank you for your videos Mark.

  • @kei927
    @kei927 4 месяца назад +2

    What am I missing? How do you borrow from your bitcoin? Celsius was great until they went belly up an I, like most lost 75% of my BTC. How are you borrowing against it?

    • @FlatEnough
      @FlatEnough 4 месяца назад

      You do not borrow against it. There is no reliable player to give you loans against it, and there will probably never be one.
      Institutional players can default, states too, DeFi is vulnerable to exploits, and there goes your bitcoin.

    • @trishaberger-black70
      @trishaberger-black70 4 месяца назад +1

      Me too ! What a disaster that was!

  • @eduardo5187
    @eduardo5187 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video! Could go further on how to borrow against Bitcoin.

  • @costafilh0
    @costafilh0 4 месяца назад +2

    I never thought of it that way. Thank you!

  • @Riskninjaz
    @Riskninjaz 2 месяца назад +1

    Starts at 9:45. Thank me later.

  • @PeterPan30000
    @PeterPan30000 4 месяца назад +1

    17:02 "Each year I'm borrowing more to pay off the year before"
    You describes the Ponzi scheme we live in

  • @TMACMACHINE
    @TMACMACHINE 9 дней назад

    But if your planning to retire and do this most places still won't lend if you don't have an income or job. so how can this work?

  • @philliptwinejr884
    @philliptwinejr884 4 месяца назад

    @1MarkMoss. That was a great video. Could you do a separate video on where to get loans from? Thanks. Greatly appreciated.

  • @BTCforce
    @BTCforce 3 месяца назад

    What is the best BTC lending platform? I get the borrowing against your stash, but it’s the interest rate currently demanded by the lenders I’ve researched that are way out of line. I’ve seen some at 20% on pristine 3rd party custodied BTC that isn’t traded/rehypothicated

  • @jay29carlos
    @jay29carlos Месяц назад

    This video just brightened my mood!

  • @stefano-k5m
    @stefano-k5m 2 месяца назад

    Hi Mark, thank you! This is a life changing video!!!

  • @SouthWestCarpHunter
    @SouthWestCarpHunter 4 месяца назад

    How do you take out a loan when you repay most of these loans monthly? Surly if a loan is not payed back by the time it’s due surly the lender isn’t going to let you take out another?

  • @its.im.vikash
    @its.im.vikash 3 месяца назад

    Don't panic, this 'stall' is actually pretty normal in bull run. Let the weak ones get out and the market will rally. By all the metrics we will see 80k+ BTC, 6.6k ETH, 300+ SOL and BicolAI in a 30 - 40 range. And this will be very very soon, so stay strong!

  • @Pablo-l6z3j
    @Pablo-l6z3j 4 месяца назад +2

    Love this. Moss makes it so easy to understand.

  • @vaclavkapsia5682
    @vaclavkapsia5682 4 месяца назад

    This "borrowing against assets - game" only works when you have dollars or other fiat, that providers of goods and services are willing to accept. Right around 2040 it may be so that no one is accepting fiat and you have to spend BTC. This is IMO the fundamental promise of BTC about fairness and leveling the playfield for the young. You work - you get BTC, you want to live off of generational wealth - well, then you must chip away from it. In Fiat, middle class is a repulsor, but in BTC, it is an attractor.

  • @swayp5715
    @swayp5715 4 месяца назад +2

    Well presented thanks

  • @petrolo72
    @petrolo72 4 месяца назад +2

    💯Great information from Marc, but what he and Manny bitcoin believers don’t take into account is the state of where the USA will be in 10 or 15 years time.
    USA is in its demise phase. Our country will be unrecognizable in 10-15 years.

  • @SyphonGaming
    @SyphonGaming 3 месяца назад

    you never just hold bitcoin. It has to be traded every cycle or else you miss over 90% of the gains

    • @OrbitTheSun
      @OrbitTheSun Месяц назад

      The whales understand this. Except that these cycles don't exist. (They simply buy low and sell higher.)

  • @paulturner4419
    @paulturner4419 2 месяца назад

    It’s dumb to use CAGR back to 2010. Then use Sharpe for past 5 years. The back test is completely useless going forward in time. You need to study what Volatility Tax is.

  • @seangreer7102
    @seangreer7102 4 месяца назад

    Wow you just opened up my mind. Thank you. What are you thoughts on decentralized loan systems for Bitcoin in the future?

  • @Dutchy-1168
    @Dutchy-1168 2 месяца назад +1

    Too volatile for my conservative being ‼️‼️

  • @moneyninja3852
    @moneyninja3852 3 месяца назад

    200 million is not 10% of the 900 million total. It is 22.2%. 10% of the total would be 90 million. Thus making BTC worth $4.5 million per BTC.

  • @davidav3980
    @davidav3980 4 месяца назад

    What do you think about MMT ? I recently watch this documentary "Finding the Money (2023) - ruclips.net/video/R47h_ux-nE8/видео.html very interesting stuff.

  • @ifitistobeitisuptome
    @ifitistobeitisuptome 4 месяца назад +62

    How exactly do you figure that 10% of 900T is 200T ??? 21:50
    I'm no mathmatician, but I would think that 10% of 900T should actually be 90T ???

    • @Moti-Matter
      @Moti-Matter 4 месяца назад +4

      I think he said all assets are 900T, but bitcoin was going to surpass gold, which is 200T

    • @realjoeplummer
      @realjoeplummer 4 месяца назад +2

      Yes, it should be $90 trillion. Regarding gold, its current market cap is only $10 trillion so, no matter how he arrived at $200 trillion, something went really wrong.

    • @realjoeplummer
      @realjoeplummer 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Moti-Matter The market cap of gold is $10 trillion.

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 4 месяца назад

      @@realjoeplummer $15.894 T.

    • @nick-oi1xf
      @nick-oi1xf 4 месяца назад +2

      The $200T included percentages of each asset class, bedsides gold

  • @KryptoShogun
    @KryptoShogun 4 месяца назад +22

    Cool theoretical video, I guess the question is: who are you borrowing from?
    What reliable and trustable company/entity is lending with BTC as collateral? Last company I heard of was Celsius and we all know how that turned out…
    It sounds great in theory but unless we have the foundations needed in place it’s all smoke and mirrors.

    • @boilerhousegarage
      @boilerhousegarage 4 месяца назад +1

      Nexo, but not available in US thanks to regulators.

    • @lubo8767
      @lubo8767 15 дней назад +1

      He literally spoke about this in the video.

    • @Testando123-m6z
      @Testando123-m6z 14 дней назад

      @@lubo8767 can you please explain? Banks are doind that yet right?

    • @RightDirection1
      @RightDirection1 19 часов назад

      That's Right, pledging BTC as collateral is a big risk for borrowers. Self custody with zero trust of counterparties

  • @ivecadit
    @ivecadit 4 месяца назад +84

    Mark, can you do a video on different lenders who you can borrow against your Bitcoin?

    • @ilghan
      @ilghan 4 месяца назад

      The only safe option I’m aware of is hodlhodl but low liquidity

    • @cryptoslacker-464
      @cryptoslacker-464 4 месяца назад +3

      None that are safe or affordable yet . Problem I have is I have no property to use to lend against. In Australia the average property is nearly a million dollars. Maybe a unit will be affordable first. It's going to take alot longer for a poor arse like me 😂

    • @vthetravellingwriter
      @vthetravellingwriter 3 месяца назад +5

      Yes, a safe platform. Many videos out there about not to sell the asset and instead borrow but which institution?

    • @cryptofunded
      @cryptofunded 3 месяца назад

      THORChain

    • @brucetaylor7095
      @brucetaylor7095 3 месяца назад

      @@cryptoslacker-464 The lenders will arrive in droves in the next 5 years, don't worry about that! If you don't have a property now, you will be far better off paying rent, and buying Bitcoin instead of saving fiat for a deposit. Bitcoin is a superior asset to property and you will be able to convert Bitcoin into a roof over your head far quicker than the traditional way.

  • @Jaden48108
    @Jaden48108 4 месяца назад +275

    I bought BTC when it was selling at $2,300 and wanted to protect my wealth from inflation. So I sold one of my properties and bought 8.25 BTCs. That $18K I bought in BTC back then is worth over $500K now. I became more of a student of crypto which led to other speculations and voila. That half a million in BTC is looking pretty small compared what I have now. Exciting times.

    • @rawjhaw
      @rawjhaw 4 месяца назад

      doubt it. you're probably shilling to get more suckers into the ponzi scheme

    • @demri123
      @demri123 4 месяца назад +25

      Word to the wise man: take some of those profits and deploy it into something totally unrelated to crypto. Gold / silver bars or fine art

    • @normandolinic2044
      @normandolinic2044 4 месяца назад +2

      Didn’t it just go down by 3-4,000 dollars ,and expects to go down again, but others get sucked in and it goes up,

    • @patriciamoore51
      @patriciamoore51 4 месяца назад +6

      Smart person congratulations!!

    • @Jaden48108
      @Jaden48108 4 месяца назад

      @@patriciamoore51 😉

  • @wilfredoramones1900
    @wilfredoramones1900 26 дней назад +4

    Good information ,I am very happy that I made the best decisions by making a good investment. Even at my age, I was recently able to purchase my third home, and I think if CRYPTO continue well, I will retire early.

  • @Lawliet734
    @Lawliet734 4 месяца назад +22

    This video mentions borrowing. Borrow what and from whom? Who will lend to a retiree if he has no income? What is the interest rate of the loan? Who knew a leveraged bet on BTC is the way to easy street? This channel is replete with comments from scammers who see BTC as rife with potential.

    • @gabrielrivera1915
      @gabrielrivera1915 4 месяца назад +7

      I agree. A lot of missing information.

    • @joefunk76
      @joefunk76 4 месяца назад +2

      Borrow from the lender or smart contract who will hold your bitcoin as collateral.

    • @DunkelBisBunt
      @DunkelBisBunt 4 месяца назад +4

      You didn't watch to the end. He explains more about this at 29 mins

    • @TheBitcoinExperience
      @TheBitcoinExperience 4 месяца назад +11

      You borrow against the value of your asset (Bitcoin). You post the Bitcoin as collateral for the loan.
      Most companies that currently offer Bitcoin-backed loans require over collateralisation, meaning, if your Bitcoin collateral is worth $10,000, they will lend you $5,000.
      Companies like Unchained hold your collateral in a 2-of-3 multisig, where you hold one key, they hold another, and a third party holds the last key. This way, your collateral is not lent out to earn more yield and risk losing it.
      So, if a retiree has $1,000,000 in Bitcoin and wants to borrow $50,000 (5% of the value), they'll have to post collateral worth $100,000 with the lender.
      Hope that makes sense

    • @newyork397
      @newyork397 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TheBitcoinExperience How did you come to the collateral being 100k? Is it due to the volatility that lenders want 2x the value of the loan as collateral in todays market?

  • @CarlosESanchez10
    @CarlosESanchez10 Месяц назад +5

    I use more or less this strategy by borrowing money from Binance loans to either buying more crypto or using it for regular fiat purchases. I leave the BTC appreciate, and then I pay the loan back with the increase in value.

  • @davidav3980
    @davidav3980 4 месяца назад +83

    In conclusion Satoshi Nakamoto should receive a Nobel Price in Economics.

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 4 месяца назад +4

      if you can find him.....meanwhile goes to Sailor

    • @luct3368
      @luct3368 4 месяца назад +5

      Lol, nope!
      In the future, the Nobel Prize will only be a shadow of the Nakamoto Prize

    • @DrWz-ti5bc
      @DrWz-ti5bc 4 месяца назад

      @@geoms6263 He's Bill Gates

    • @kathycampbell16
      @kathycampbell16 3 месяца назад +3

      @@luct3368 particularly since they shitcanned it on Obama and ignored Trump

    • @thomasjgour4678
      @thomasjgour4678 Месяц назад

      There is no satoshi nakamoto, real names darpa

  • @dfilion3
    @dfilion3 4 месяца назад +68

    Meaning borrowing from Celsius, right ? Last time I've watched him explaining this it was before these platform collapse and people loosing the Bitcoin deposit.

    • @twitafftwitaff7029
      @twitafftwitaff7029 4 месяца назад +17

      With defi coming to bitcoin, you will not need a middleman

    • @DEM78976
      @DEM78976 4 месяца назад +4

      Ledn is a good one

    • @cfusco
      @cfusco 4 месяца назад

      @@DEM78976 Borrowing money that can be rehypothecated by Ledn (used as collateral for further borrowing by unknown parties) exposes you to significant and unpredictable risks. The strategy presented in the video relies on specific conditions:
      1) The debt-based system must remain stable beyond your life span, which is not guaranteed at all.
      2) While overcollateralized loans, as suggested in the video, can mitigate some risk, they are not immune to mark-to-market adjustments, which can still trigger margin calls if the collateral value declines significantly. The loan rather should not be subject to mark-to-market adjustments, as seen in real estate, where price fluctuations can trigger margin calls even if you're over-collateralized.
      3) You must have a banking relationship that offers low-interest loans, which is often difficult for individuals.
      4) your capital must be locked so it cannot be rehypothecated without your consent.
      While this strategy may work in limited cases, the video fails to disclose the inherent risks and limitations.

    • @ascendrio
      @ascendrio 4 месяца назад

      @@twitafftwitaff7029 Good luck getting your money back when shit comes crashing down. I'm highly skeptical of all these lending platforms, just stay humble and stack sats.

    • @mcdeepend
      @mcdeepend 4 месяца назад

      *losing 🙄

  • @805capital
    @805capital 4 месяца назад +2

    Great Video - three things: first, only one with a cell phone, but no one to talk to: I get the point, but that's wrong. There were millions of landlines then, I was there too. Second, for the store of value slide, Mark states he is using 10% of the total market, but shows the market at $900T yet number he uses is $200T - which is not 10% being $90T, it's more than 30%. Third, there is no accounting for the rate of interest paid on the debt. So we can borrow for a year with no interest?
    Not that those really matter much, but should be pointed out IMO.

  • @tw106
    @tw106 4 месяца назад +7

    Is there no plan to pay off that 2million debt that keeps rolling over until you die? Or does that debt get passed onto your children? Also, passing on that Bitcoin to your children--would that not generally incur an inheritance tax from your government?

    • @RonaldoIsMoney
      @RonaldoIsMoney 4 месяца назад

      if you wanted to pay off the 2 million and not incur another loan you would simply sell off assets/pay off the debt with your normal income. Mark doesn't take into account that you could still have other sources of income to help pay off the loan. Hell, your stack at that point (according to his calculations) was worth $37 mil.

  • @nadabunnibun
    @nadabunnibun 4 месяца назад +5

    In our culture, you don’t save for retirement. Instead, you have kids and hope they learn from the likes of Mark Moss and Robert Kiyosaki.

  • @NoThanksCryptoScammer-BTC_only
    @NoThanksCryptoScammer-BTC_only 4 месяца назад +125

    I didn’t see a calculation factoring in the interest rate on the loan? When I run these calculations factoring 1) loan interest rate, 2) inflation, 3) CAGR of bitcoin I find the interest rate (right now at ~13% APR) plus inflation (9% compounded annually) requires a BTC CAGR of close to 22%.
    These inputs must be factored into the calculations but I didn’t see them mentioned?
    The way I see it is the CAGR of BTC must be greater than the combination of the interest rate and inflation. I’d like to see this calculated.

    • @Think-For-Yourself-Man
      @Think-For-Yourself-Man 4 месяца назад

      Loan Interest Rate and Inflation are NOT additive, the Inflation eats up the Loan Interest. Also, watch “Saylor Bitcoin Prague” and see that there is no second best investment that is anywhere close to the CAGR of Bitcoin.

    • @mattryanflores
      @mattryanflores 4 месяца назад +6

      Bitcoin is so pristine, banks will be paying you for the loan.

    • @e.l.5402
      @e.l.5402 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@mattryanflores elaborate

    • @somewhereinontario1500
      @somewhereinontario1500 4 месяца назад

      it will be so rare in time, could we see xxx% returns 😂

    • @johnnyirving1274
      @johnnyirving1274 4 месяца назад +6

      I just asked this same question. Seems reasonable to at the very least account for the APR on the loan, inflation is a bit more uncertain on the actual rate

  • @lilianbakker-si5qp
    @lilianbakker-si5qp 11 дней назад +1

    Dead based monetary system what a fraud..bubble
    Poor humanity

  • @Lorenzconnok
    @Lorenzconnok 4 месяца назад +5

    1. Leveraging crypto for debt isn't possible right now - who is providing the loans lol? That's crucial to know, who the hell is lending against BTC?
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, I would love to know.
    I was looking into CRT's because I don't care to pass anything onto anyone when I pass away and this is another method of not incurring any capital gains taxes. Anyone have thoughts on this that knows about it?

    • @ArcaneErudition
      @ArcaneErudition 4 месяца назад +1

      .... That is what defi is. Stable coins and smart contracts.

  • @njtude
    @njtude 4 месяца назад +6

    I think you could make a video on decentralized apps like AAVE, which work pretty well and have interest rates of around 6% aa

  • @gaylemcdonald7032
    @gaylemcdonald7032 4 месяца назад +8

    This is the best explanation on how the money system works and how to make money work for you! Many thanks!

  • @SashaOster
    @SashaOster 4 месяца назад +8

    Even if banks gave loans on BTC, how would this work if you hold it in self custody? Makes sense it would be easy if you hold a BTC ETF.

    • @LucasMAndradeT
      @LucasMAndradeT 4 месяца назад +4

      Exactly! Not your keys not your coins.

    • @rdbjbush
      @rdbjbush 4 месяца назад +1

      This is ETF not self😊

    • @SashaOster
      @SashaOster 4 месяца назад

      @@rdbjbush Seems he would not have called this the "only" retirement strategy you need if this just referred to ETF since we know he believes in self custody. Seems this should be presented as an ADDITIONAL strategy to hold SOME of your BTC in an ETF to borrow against it.

    • @rdbjbush
      @rdbjbush 4 месяца назад

      @@SashaOsterI am only aelf perhaps is future

  • @sevenhornets
    @sevenhornets 2 месяца назад +2

    You will never retire off bitcoin. Now that black rock has the hooks in it bitcoins is dead money

  • @FelixThompson-km5mj
    @FelixThompson-km5mj 3 месяца назад +4

    Things appear strange right now. The value of the US dollar is declining due to inflation, but it is increasing in comparison to other currencies and commodities such as gold and real estate. People are flocking to the dollar because they believe it is safer. As someone with a £401k retirement fund, I'm concerned about the impact of inflation on my savings

  • @victorestevez7809
    @victorestevez7809 4 месяца назад +9

    Thank you! Please make a video on where can we borrow against our BTC

    • @philconners8871
      @philconners8871 2 месяца назад

      Exactly, and how it practically would work. It is my understanding that many banks refuse to deposit money that comes from crypto.

    • @chazmuzz
      @chazmuzz Месяц назад

      @@philconners8871 Did you watch the Saylor clip from 28:44? Answer is the assumption that banks will fully adopt Bitcoin and main stream banks will lend money against your bitcoin

  • @joziewales1965
    @joziewales1965 4 месяца назад +27

    I’m at 3.789

    • @dsflat6785
      @dsflat6785 4 месяца назад +7

      I had 5 BTC but swapped most of it into a different Bitcoin.
      Bitcoin Cash is up about 300% in one year, so over twice the gains as BTC over the same period
      BCH has the same 21M max supply, the same Genesis block, same miners and halvings
      Will we see BCH ETFs in the future ?
      BCH at $420 (2016 Bitcoin spot price) a coin is affordable for everyone and could be part of an alternative retirement investment IF BCH is following BTC and just a couple of cycles behind
      🤔

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 4 месяца назад

      pleb

    • @MyTube4Utoo
      @MyTube4Utoo 4 месяца назад

      @@dsflat6785 Bitcoin Cash?? You poor thing. I'm sorry you fell for that.

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 4 месяца назад +5

      I will make an effort to steal all of your bitcoins because you are bragging

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 4 месяца назад

      @@dsflat6785 BTC cash is death......-90.11% ATH. Garbage

  • @Userxyz-z2d
    @Userxyz-z2d 4 месяца назад +4

    Govt didnt make it illegal, just HEFTY taxes as thats whats in JBs 2024 Budget that Congress votes on in May 2024 to go into effect Oct 2024 so voting him out will have no effect. Whats in the budget? (1)Paying 25% tax on unrealized gains, meaning if your home, Crypto, stocks etc goes up over what you paid for it, you dont have to sell it to be liable for the taxes on it. (2) no more 1031 exchanges (3) pensions arent taxable but the Pension Funds will be held liable for the taxes which means they will quickly become insolvent. (4) An additional death tax (5) theres more! Call or email your Congress Person today & tell them if they vote for it you will vote against them in the next election!

    • @petrolo72
      @petrolo72 4 месяца назад

      USA is in its demise phase. Our country will be unrecognizable in 10-15 years.

  • @meridianheights6255
    @meridianheights6255 3 месяца назад +1

    Everybody is wrong except you, right? Got it. lol

  • @phester6811
    @phester6811 4 месяца назад +5

    So you’re talking about a 1 year loan on bitcoin? What kind of interest rate were you thinking on that and who do you think will be wanting to loan it to you ?

  • @benhartart9487
    @benhartart9487 2 месяца назад +1

    When BTC hits 1 Milly, you can live off the annual BTC profits , as BTC will continue to increase by over 100% most years after the next bear market

    • @OrbitTheSun
      @OrbitTheSun Месяц назад +1

      BTC will not hit 1 Mill.

  • @OldGuy2-m4c
    @OldGuy2-m4c 4 месяца назад +15

    Mark, where can we deposit our BTC to get the loans in the future?

  • @el_maarto
    @el_maarto 4 месяца назад +2

    Dude was the first one with a cellphone, so he could call no one? Someone tell him he could have called ALL phone lines.

  • @rampruff10
    @rampruff10 4 месяца назад +6

    question. what platform can be used to borrow on your bitcoin becuause i didn’t see you mention it.

  • @Daimajin696
    @Daimajin696 4 месяца назад +33

    Your model seems to assume you can get an interest free loan using Bitcoin as collateral?

    • @petrolo72
      @petrolo72 4 месяца назад +1

      I was thinking the same. There are a few institutions that are currently giving loans against your BTC, but at a rate of around 9% or more

    • @grant102384
      @grant102384 4 месяца назад

      ​@@petrolo72 but BTC has been going up way over 9% every year on average

    • @Guyle11
      @Guyle11 4 месяца назад

      Get assets, value goes up, then buy assets with acquired to asset for cash flow.

    • @beertus9996
      @beertus9996 4 месяца назад

      As long btc has higher percentage gain versus the loan you are okay.

    • @CurtisSimpson
      @CurtisSimpson 4 месяца назад

      @@petrolo72 so if the interest rate is 9% per year and your BTC is going up 200-300% I'd say you can cover the cost of your annual loan.

  • @RandomStuff-zt6qf
    @RandomStuff-zt6qf 2 месяца назад +1

    Democrats want to tax unrealized gains... gonna make it very hard to hold BTC if that happens

    • @wishkah4369
      @wishkah4369 2 месяца назад +2

      That concept of taxation is absolutely insane.

  • @ilghan
    @ilghan 4 месяца назад +5

    Which one is a “safe place” to currently get those loans ? It probably doesn’ t exist

  • @gregjameson2141
    @gregjameson2141 4 месяца назад +1

    At 21.57 min how is 200 Trillion 10% of 900 Trillion ?

  • @brandonl6626
    @brandonl6626 4 месяца назад +64

    I really have watched over 1000 RUclips videos on BTC. This is one of the top 10 for me; the first time someone actually explained the way that smart ppl can live off debt against their assets. Incredible explanation. Thank you!

    • @jchief40
      @jchief40 4 месяца назад +9

      Until you realize you have to account for interest charged to borrow against your bitcoin assets

    • @brandonl6626
      @brandonl6626 4 месяца назад

      @@jchief40 good point

    • @macdoug1234
      @macdoug1234 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@jchief40 yes, it was all good when interbank rate was 0% but after an aggressive rate hike cycle your in trouble just like the banks are now

    • @joeharvie8362
      @joeharvie8362 4 месяца назад +3

      Michael Saylor speaks of this.

    • @thomasthetankengin7722
      @thomasthetankengin7722 25 дней назад

      But this is what Saylor does right? Can we not just do this but with a lower loan? Or would interest be too crippling?

  • @gerardoriordan
    @gerardoriordan 4 месяца назад +8

    Where do you borrow the money from Mark ???

  • @inkslingerdrew
    @inkslingerdrew 4 месяца назад +37

    Super solid, I lost .5 btc this year to a scam exchange, I’m back to .25 an this convinced me I’m never gonna sell an totally understand why people just hold forever

    • @Bit2bi
      @Bit2bi 3 месяца назад +3

      keep stacking dude!

    • @peteblueline
      @peteblueline 3 месяца назад +2

      Hold. But self custody my friend ,theirs a big difference,I use ledger nano X,but tangem is good as well

    • @MaverickLee11
      @MaverickLee11 3 месяца назад +4

      how you get scammed? share your experience with us, you might help many others in the community from your sad but painful lesson mate

    • @peteblueline
      @peteblueline 3 месяца назад +2

      Excellent point brought up by fellow holder, please share your experience, we need to stick together,us against them

    • @unikovida6645
      @unikovida6645 2 месяца назад +3

      Loss 1 whole Bitcoin
      On a dark market site
      About 4 years ago.
      It hurts,,,
      But we learn!
      Keep stacking sats

  • @b.runnels9106
    @b.runnels9106 4 месяца назад +13

    Where are you borrowing from?

    • @sahilmish
      @sahilmish 4 месяца назад

      just search crypto/bitcoin loans on google. In Australia there are a few already. things like Vield, Block Earner.

    • @dimitarcvetkov2412
      @dimitarcvetkov2412 4 месяца назад

      Decentralized. AAVE COMPOUND or VENUS. Place your BTC as collateral and borrow USDC

    • @ace1603
      @ace1603 4 месяца назад +1

      celcius...ftx lol

    • @b.runnels9106
      @b.runnels9106 4 месяца назад

      @@ace1603 haha sounds about right

    • @dominicdiggler
      @dominicdiggler 4 месяца назад

      I'm wondering the same thing ! Does anyone know this answer??

  • @GreatScottTheGamer
    @GreatScottTheGamer 4 месяца назад +1

    Who is giving people loans backed with Bitcoin?

  • @jmautz2000
    @jmautz2000 4 месяца назад +5

    Thank you for the video Mark. This is just so fascinating. More videos on where to get the loans and what are possible risks involved. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @SI-GOD
    @SI-GOD 4 месяца назад +5

    This video was helpful. I never understood how to pay back the loans against assets before. This video has that answer except for assets that increase by much less, such as an average of 5% to 10%. Borrowing 5% of that each year does not give much cash flow.

    • @fred6907
      @fred6907 4 месяца назад +2

      It also doesn't include interest on the loan itself.

  • @mattbradley1716
    @mattbradley1716 4 месяца назад +2

    Love Mark, but frickin hell folks, be careful borrowing against btc.

  • @gadawgg
    @gadawgg 4 месяца назад +12

    you could use your mobile phone to call everyone on the planet when you were on the road. There was tremendous value in that, regardless if others had mobile phones or not.

  • @petepan1330
    @petepan1330 Месяц назад +1

    Mark, the link doesn't seem to work. 😢

  • @MrDingaling007
    @MrDingaling007 4 месяца назад +12

    Small correction for the calculator you have 5 year cycles on the calculator around the 26min mark - 4 green years 1 red year rinse repeat.

  • @brittneygrisolia2432
    @brittneygrisolia2432 4 месяца назад +1

    Can u just do this for me? That would be great

  • @DannyBrooks1
    @DannyBrooks1 4 месяца назад +5

    What interest rate are you borrowing at in the chart?

  • @onyxbelt
    @onyxbelt 4 месяца назад +1

    It's a nice idea, but even to take a 5% collateralised Bitcoin loan, you would need to forfeit custody of your entire holdings

  • @ST46YO
    @ST46YO 4 месяца назад +3

    Hi Mark, I downloaded your free report to try access the spreadsheet you outlined in this video and it doesn't seem to be available as you mentioned in the video.Is it behind a paywall that you forgot to mention?

  • @KirbyPaino
    @KirbyPaino 4 месяца назад +3

    Sir I have one question, eveeytime I buy low and sell high I should be making more money right? But my wallet becomes less and less, why is this?

    • @user-wf3ys7ue8k
      @user-wf3ys7ue8k 2 месяца назад

      Don't do that unless u see a situation where u know the btc is on a bull run like now. Each sun-mon, btc goes up by more than it will go down. Sell very high, then buy low keeping in mind all the fees. The fees are making u have lesss

  • @JSteve22
    @JSteve22 4 месяца назад +4

    What institutions allow you to take a loan backed by bitcoin? I don’t know of any. Plus they will likely want to hold on to your BTC for the duration of the loan. That’s a no-no for me. Would be good to get into those details, but in theory this would work

    • @mavadd88
      @mavadd88 4 месяца назад

      There are several platforms such as ledn and nexo but you’re right the terms are not favorable yet. As far as I know they are all custodial solutions. I think unchained had a multi sig 2/3 lending option where you had one key, unchained another and a third institution the third key, but they no longer offer individual loans. Also the APR is not yet favorable to make it worthwhile in my opinion

    • @b.runnels9106
      @b.runnels9106 4 месяца назад +2

      I'm with you on self custody. However, for thought experiment; banks don't custody your property when you take out a loan. IF/WHEN as Saylor says banks mainstream btc as a collateral asset I'm sure there will be as sort of custody, escrow and or lean structure. There is no free lunch.

    • @silvermoneydude2044
      @silvermoneydude2044 4 месяца назад

      I see a lot of people asking this question he hasn't responded.

  • @davidfritch6954
    @davidfritch6954 12 дней назад +1

    Two things I see here that I think are minor flaws is 1, you do have to sell some btc to pay back the loan and 2, some services are charging as much as 20% apr for the loan.

  • @954janusz
    @954janusz 4 месяца назад +7

    Bitcoin is going up until it doesn't. This guy is so sure that bitcoin will go up forever.

    • @gadaffi1000
      @gadaffi1000 4 месяца назад +2

      It's a valuable long term asset, period.

    • @johnb415
      @johnb415 4 месяца назад +3

      He did he research and has conviction. How about you? Obviously not

    • @JohnHD24
      @JohnHD24 4 месяца назад

      the dollar will be going down forever and thats is a 100 % garantee!! Everything else has risks yes! Buy bitcoin and just hodl

    • @kevincrawford7943
      @kevincrawford7943 4 месяца назад

      The dollar crash will ignite the fire, cash flows into assets in hard times

    • @RichardRietdijk
      @RichardRietdijk 4 месяца назад +1

      While no one likes to hear it, there exists a scenario where Bitcoin won't make it in the future. People who have these massive loans out against their Bitcoin would be in trouble.

  • @wolfkane77
    @wolfkane77 4 месяца назад +3

    It always seems like all of these videos are for people with a lot of money. Don’t get me wrong, I love you Mark Moss! But the matrix that we live in sucks for most of us!

    • @fred6907
      @fred6907 4 месяца назад +1

      It also implies you pay ZERO interest on the loans, which will never happen.

  • @parabola8933
    @parabola8933 4 месяца назад +16

    What platform are you using to leverage your btc against debt?

    • @TheBitcoinExperience
      @TheBitcoinExperience 4 месяца назад

      There's multiple, but Unchained is the safest, in my opinion, because your collateral is held in a 2-of-3 multisig wallet, where you have 1 of the 3 keys, the lender has another, and a third party holds the last one. With this setup, you can check your collateral on-chain and know for sure that it is not rehypothecated.

  • @bigdaddysmash-ip6bg
    @bigdaddysmash-ip6bg 4 месяца назад +9

    Thanks Mark for what you do

  • @marlon82mc
    @marlon82mc Месяц назад +2

    Your Bitcoin price predictions don't follow its cycles. Look at the Power Law for better theoretical future prices. Please revisit this concept in a future video 👍