The Lie in BLADE RUNNER 2049 Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2017
  • My spoiler thoughts on Blade Runner 2049 and what it means to me.
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    In this video I:
    -I explain my thoughts on BLADE RUNNER 2049 and spoilers
    -Analyze what it means to be "human"
    BLADE RUNNER 2049:
    A young blade runner's discovery of a long-buried secret leads him to track down former blade runner Rick Deckard, who's been missing for thirty years.
    Director: Denis Villeneuve
    Writers: Hampton Fancher (screenplay by), Michael Green (screenplay by), Ridley Scott, Philip K. Dick (based on characters from the novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?")
    Stars: Harrison Ford, Ryan Gosling, Ana de Armas
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    ► Music: WILL HE - Joji | YES - Chromatics | TEARS IN RAIN - Vangelis
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  • @houston-coley
    @houston-coley 6 лет назад +8433

    Blade Runner's box office failure is one of the greatest cinematic tragedies of this generation. Great video, man.

    • @TheGeorgeD13
      @TheGeorgeD13 6 лет назад +390

      Actually, I think it's one of the best things that could happen to cinema. Hollywood is notorious for trying to copy a success and tack on uneccesary sequels. It'd be a tragedy if this film was successful because there would be so many terrible replications of this film.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +235

      ^sorta how many films copied the OG Blade Runner

    • @TheWarriorpony
      @TheWarriorpony 6 лет назад +313

      George Daugherty No I think it's a tragedy. While what you say is certainly true, the other result of the box office failure and more likely the more prominent one, os that true artists like deni villneuve won't be allowed to take creative risks with big blockbuster movies like this one. 2049 really was an expression of pure artistic talent and integrity and it was certainly helped by the large budget provided by the studio. But now they might not take the risk to let an artist like DV create their vision because it doesn't conform to market analysis. And that is the true tragedy.

    • @BlueShift815
      @BlueShift815 6 лет назад +50

      It didn't really fail. It's made over $200m worldwide so far

    • @badtothebone93
      @badtothebone93 6 лет назад +79

      Yeah the only fact that a shitty super hero movie like Homecoming makes more thab this masterpiece shows how much the human race is doomed.

  • @NickHunter
    @NickHunter 5 лет назад +2904

    The original "flopped" too. They're still the best 2 sci-fi movies ever made

    • @bryce7488
      @bryce7488 4 года назад +4

      AI is up there too

    • @lancejackson9108
      @lancejackson9108 4 года назад +5

      Terminator

    • @MrDominex
      @MrDominex 4 года назад +10

      The original Blade Runner did much better at the box office than "2049" did-- the latter was an utter failure with audiences because they saw right through its pretentious bs.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 4 года назад +151

      @@MrDominex
      Just because you found it boring doesn't mean it's pretentious.
      It's not a blockbuster movie with the things the larger general audiences are interested in.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 4 года назад +1

      @@bryce7488
      Except for the last arc.

  • @bjornfelle
    @bjornfelle 5 лет назад +1527

    The philosophy of Blade Runner, which is extended into 2049, is summed up for me in Roy's "tears in the rain" monologue at the end of the first film. He's saying that it doesn't matter whether you're human or replicant, it's your experiences which make you who and what you are. If you live a human life, you are as human as a human, even if you're a replicant. You can see on Deckard's face that he grasps this at this point, and realises what he has been doing - not "retiring" replicants, but killing human beings who have all "seen things you people wouldn't believe". It is this speech, and Roy showing how human he is by saving and then sparing Deckard, which makes Deckard realise that it's ok to love Rachel, because she is as human as he is. And that's why he goes back for her. This theme is just explored from different angles in 2049 to add even more layers and facets to this. It was a sequel that really needed to be made, and I absolutely love what they did with it. The only regrettable part about both films is that Philip K Dick didn't live to see either of them.

    • @chencharoo
      @chencharoo 5 лет назад +27

      We are imperfect machines that many times strive for "improvement" the illusion of perfection. but most always end up with unintended consequences in our quest for that illusion.

    • @formbi
      @formbi 4 года назад +14

      a fantastic comment

    • @chencharoo
      @chencharoo 4 года назад +9

      @David Parks there will always be unintended consequences when you enter any uncharted territory, human beings in general are not very rational thinkers, we are prone to mistakes. there is always a double edge sword. we are not very good at wain in the cost benefit a small mistake can be very costly. good point!

    • @freedom55or95
      @freedom55or95 3 года назад +1

      Amen brother. Agree.

    • @Don5mega
      @Don5mega 3 года назад +3

      Haha I screenshot this before I even seen the comments. Glad I’m not the only one realizes how good he explained it.

  • @Thisthat1234
    @Thisthat1234 4 года назад +601

    Blade runner 2049 orange should be an official color on the color wheel.

    • @amadysseus
      @amadysseus 4 года назад +1

      @L1qu1d S1lenc3r I thought spice was blue

    • @jofall91
      @jofall91 4 года назад +2

      L1qu1d S1lenc3r haha. Villeneuve is directing the Dune remake.

    • @elitegamer8351
      @elitegamer8351 4 года назад +3

      Same as the Mad Max Fury Road Yellow-Orange

    • @mccaf87
      @mccaf87 4 года назад

      The University of Texas athletics teams already wear this color.

    • @MigDoos
      @MigDoos 3 года назад

      I watched it with night light still on so i got more orange than i should throughg the whole movie lol

  • @Eliecerhdz
    @Eliecerhdz 5 лет назад +2406

    It was not a comercial success because it was not intended for the masses, like true masterpieces arent.

    • @skywolf2012
      @skywolf2012 4 года назад +39

      I agree with you because it was a visual masterpiece that simpletons cant comprehend.

    • @coolbuddydude1
      @coolbuddydude1 4 года назад +8

      @@skywolf2012 Comprehend what? The film rehashed many themes already expressed in art. It was just poor delivery.

    • @stryker1999
      @stryker1999 4 года назад +70

      @GIT GUD Traditionally, the masses prefer the mundane, like McDonalds is one of the most successful restaurants of all time. The exact opposite of a master restaurant. Masterpieces are almost universally misunderstood and criticized until some meme starts to catch on.
      Blade Runner was a box office flop too, but it was one of the greatest influences in science fiction of all time, and is now hailed as one of the greatest movies of all time. It's entirely possible that 2049 will have a similar status in time. I think Mr AtZ has it just right.

    • @j.m.w.5064
      @j.m.w.5064 4 года назад +18

      @GIT GUD What nonsense. Just look at the crap the masses validate. (Not that all the individuals had all bad taste, but their tastes differ so much that the lowest common denominator becomes product most widely spread).

    • @j.m.w.5064
      @j.m.w.5064 4 года назад +19

      @GIT GUD No. That's plainly wrong and you just made that up.

  • @NaumRusomarov
    @NaumRusomarov 6 лет назад +1655

    The original Blade Runner didn't become a success overnight. It took years before people started noticing it. The same might be true for the sequel.

    • @BlueShift815
      @BlueShift815 6 лет назад +2

      Naum Rusomarov Did you see the reviews?

    • @NaumRusomarov
      @NaumRusomarov 6 лет назад +17

      Yes. They're mostly great. What's the problem with them?

    • @BlueShift815
      @BlueShift815 6 лет назад +28

      There's no problem with them. But it won't take years for people to notice the sequel, as everyone new about it on release and it received nearly unanimous praise. It didn't bomb at the box office, just performed below expectations so it's already been a success

    • @nataliagonzalez1698
      @nataliagonzalez1698 6 лет назад +62

      Well a lot of normies thought it was boring, probably the same kind of people who would’ve said the same about the original.

    • @sulphuric_glue4468
      @sulphuric_glue4468 6 лет назад +50

      Simple fact is that it's not a movie for everyone. By its very nature it will not become massive because of its limited target audience.

  • @garrytalaroc
    @garrytalaroc 4 года назад +1591

    This movie is not intended for general masses. It is intended for those who have seen a miracle.

  • @suicideking89
    @suicideking89 2 года назад +490

    The lie for K was “I’m unique. My experiences differ from others like me. I was chosen.”. And for those reasons, he chose to save Deckard instead of eliminating him, which ultimately made K “different”.

  • @Drake_Ebonheart
    @Drake_Ebonheart 2 года назад +339

    I think K's loss of Joi hurt the most in the entire movie. I felt that.

    • @augustusrogers6721
      @augustusrogers6721 Год назад +2

      same i dont see many comments about that one

    • @Tourkofagosss
      @Tourkofagosss Год назад +2

      Yeah True

    • @Taylormademan900
      @Taylormademan900 Год назад +34

      I disagree. I think it was when K was physically beaten and stared at a giant hologram of Joi. He knew that no matter how large Joi can be she is just a hologram that anyone can buy. She is an example of consumerism, an iphone, a PS5, Pornhub. Even the hologram Joi said, "You look lonely, I can fix that." K then realized she was truly not authentic so even her memory stick getting crushed didn't matter as Joi was not real to begin with.

    • @swarleystinson6733
      @swarleystinson6733 Год назад

      *Like really.. Imagine if someone deleted your entire porn collection that you have collected very passionately over the years*

    • @swarleystinson6733
      @swarleystinson6733 Год назад

      @@Taylormademan900 *Man why did you mention Pornhub? I was about to fap.. Now I am like sad and depressed, I will fap gloomly now.*

  • @jamezdfit
    @jamezdfit 6 лет назад +756

    blade runner 2049 was one of the best movies ive ever seen. certainly the best sequel ever made.
    idk if its just me, but i fucking love the blade runner universe on a personal level so much. I literally see the rain and the dark neon city and feel connected to the atmosphere, almost as if Ive actually been there. Ive never felt this feeling so strongly with any other movie.

    • @MBeist-vi7ho
      @MBeist-vi7ho 6 лет назад +9

      SUPREME LATITUDE I think the retro aesthetic of the future reminds of a better future in contrast to the one in real life despite the slight corporate corruption. We have way more problems, most of them meaningless and annoying in our everyday lives.

    • @MBeist-vi7ho
      @MBeist-vi7ho 6 лет назад +5

      SUPREME LATITUDE For instance, people argue over shit like neutral bathrooms and how blacks or Jews might cause problems in Western society instead of whether we should clone ourselves or how to explore nanotech, space exploration or virtual reality.

    • @zebbleganubi723
      @zebbleganubi723 6 лет назад +18

      the utter confusion i felt when the movie ended. wut? a sequel that was better than the first? my brain just wouldnt comprehend this new concept

    • @jamezdfit
      @jamezdfit 6 лет назад +2

      @zebble ganubi ahah yeah ik! @mr beist fr u r right. I was astonished at how many box office hits this got over that shit movie Happy Death Day, all my friends thought happy death day was awesome, why don't ppl appreciate good movies?

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster 6 лет назад

      It fits in well with all that stuff made in the early-mid 70's
      It however is completely out of step with modern sensibilities - Den' made a Hipster Movie and that is why it failed - it "Might" pick up fans long term - it might not. It probably as likely to be completely forgotten about as Ready Player One is likely going to be.
      Also it's interesting to note that they reverse can happen too you can make loads of money and be forgotten about too - I.e. Avatar is pretty much forgotten about.
      I'm not sure what there is to latch on to in this movie other than visuals (and that is likely true about the original too) If it was a Genre of Music it would be Improvisational Jazz.
      Some people get very immersed in that others are bored to tears and find it discordant and annoying.
      I do think for me the time the Movie annoyed me slightly trumps the times the Movie was visually engaging - I also STRONGLY disliked almost the entire last 3rd of the Movie.
      I don't know if i'd call the movie Controversial - as I think it really just passed with little remark and many people likely don't even know it exists at all (any more than they do 'Soldier' does).
      A slight shame - I will however neither decry or champion the Movie - I'll let time decide.

  • @Elkatook666
    @Elkatook666 5 лет назад +844

    “”Just” a hotter version of siri” how dare you, Ana de Armas is absolutely stunning

    • @johnkeck
      @johnkeck 4 года назад +48

      So she's "hotter"? You're not helping your case.

    • @daveontomas7495
      @daveontomas7495 4 года назад +29

      HottER? So siri is hot??

    • @tling321
      @tling321 4 года назад +1

      should have said, 'hooter" version of Siri

    • @kurtzcharlatan5368
      @kurtzcharlatan5368 4 года назад +8

      @@tling321 no he shouldnt have

    • @jamesfreeman7954
      @jamesfreeman7954 4 года назад

      There's more to a women than just her looks you misogynist!

  • @stantons27
    @stantons27 5 лет назад +309

    The purpose behind Ks storyline was to say even though you might not be the "one" or percieved as special, you can still find purpose in a goal, setting objectives and completing them to further your passions are what makes your life worth it to you

  • @DarshUK1
    @DarshUK1 6 лет назад +650

    I feel like I’m in the minority who loved this film’s lack of information beforehand. I went in genuinely blind to the plot points and would say it’s my favourite film this year. I wonder how ticket sales are currently doing?

    • @robertonome2448
      @robertonome2448 6 лет назад +37

      My favorite kind of story telling... The one that makes you WANT to discover whathehell is hapenning, instead of just shoving it down your throat.

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 6 лет назад +5

      Environmental Storytelling, that's what Blade Runner 2049 does so well.

    • @chriswhite2151
      @chriswhite2151 5 лет назад +1

      There are some of us. I try to completely avoid the hype before a movie I really want to see. I don't watch interviews, reviews etc. anyway. I love it that I knew nothing except the name of the movie.

    • @Hezigrimm
      @Hezigrimm 5 лет назад +1

      I am also one who likes just enough info from a trailer for me to get an idea. A trailer should be like reading the back of a book you are wanting to buy. Now days I end up getting far too much from a trailer to enjoy the movie. Well most movies I don't enjoy due to the lack luster story telling people do these days. Everything seems to be treated like an action film.

    • @gen5fan293
      @gen5fan293 2 года назад +3

      I went in to 2049 knowing nothing and I loved it

  • @Rainbowhawk1993
    @Rainbowhawk1993 6 лет назад +2841

    I’m kind of okay with the box office bomb because it’ll mean no tacked on sequels. Like the director said. It’s not about making it a box office success but making it a success to the people who view it, no matter how big or small.
    I loved 2049 and it was a success for me on a personal level. Just like how the Original Blade Runner wasn’t a box office hit but it influenced science fiction for years to come.

    • @yaswanthbadugu4493
      @yaswanthbadugu4493 6 лет назад +36

      well said... and blade runner 2049 isn't trying to make a sequel. It is, in its own way a movie. It doesn't cash on its predecessor(like every mother fucking F&F movie) but continues its question-making and that's a good thing.
      if there are box office bombs like this, studios doubt the quality of movie and go with the quantity of cash it can generate and that's very bad thing.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +19

      +Rainbowhawk1993
      Amen to that last line

    • @enemay
      @enemay 6 лет назад +5

      Yup I see it as an investment in Sci-fi/Movie/film making heritage. It's DNA will live on in other aspects of culture.

    • @cyrussmith4744
      @cyrussmith4744 6 лет назад +17

      i could agree with you, because idc about the success of a movie. But the problem is that if this movies (movies that take risks and challenge you) dont get the attention and money that they deserve, people will give them less attention and support or even worse: stop making them . Thats the problem :(

    • @lancecryor
      @lancecryor 6 лет назад +15

      .....I WANT another sequel for this.

  • @ernststravoblofeld
    @ernststravoblofeld 4 года назад +397

    The main character was obviously K's jacket.

  • @xapplimatic
    @xapplimatic 4 года назад +725

    In my heart, I feel that 2049 was a complete modern masterpiece of sci-fi cinema. Not only did it completely capture the feel and universe of the original accurately, it felt much deeper into the personal questions of what is real and what is love. In fact, after the “VR sex” scene between the two where she needed to use a proditutes’ body in order for him to “feel” her, it blew my mind. It gave me a totally different perspective on the capabilities an possibilities of cross-oner between VR and reality a future where things are not clearly black and white but where love can even transcend reality itself. It was a profound feeling. Selfless love was expressed in several ways in this movie. But one of the guiding points I think was if selfless love can exist that isn’t “real” does its realness really matter when the love itself was self-less? Aghh.. How to word that…. I’m confused still by some of it. But I think that’s the hallmark of a truly great movie, something that can actually invoke confusion and conflict into the feelings of the viewer and doesn’t hand over the answers but lets the viewer reach their own conclusions in a way that feels profound. Very few movies have ever done this in my book. For me, it makes 2049 a legend, a landmark piece of cinema. The best things in life are usually the most undervalued things. This Is not exempted.. but a perfect exemplar of that.

    • @stevenuribe8702
      @stevenuribe8702 4 года назад +7

      We're with ya man

    • @rafieazka177
      @rafieazka177 4 года назад +1

      Morgan Chronister finally someone said it

    • @Christoff070
      @Christoff070 4 года назад +1

      @David Parks robot can't feel love it doesn't have a heart just like the o.p referred to ,what is all this mental masturbation people have about this film. imo it was drawn out self-indulgent waffle that raises a heap of questions but only answers a few,not satisfying, mostly just Gosling staring at something or someone with the same expression, for me it was watchable but not a masterpiece and did not do the original justice

    • @Christoff070
      @Christoff070 4 года назад

      @David Parks yup, good points and comment wasnt at you just the amount of over-praise in general i see here in the comments.

    • @celebrim1
      @celebrim1 2 года назад

      Yes, but I think that you miss the fact that the VR girl probably never existed. It was left very doubtful that the VR girl experienced anything or did anything other than what Joe would have expected of a 'Best Girl'. The prostitute tells Joi that "there is nothing really in here". And it's not answered whether Joi actually was sentient or had feelings or had made choices and was not just in fact a well-designed chat bot. If Joi had no sentience, then nothing she did was self-less. There was no self to sacrifice.

  • @connormcclenny9681
    @connormcclenny9681 6 лет назад +734

    I've seen things you ppl wouldn't believe... Like Blade Runner 2049 while it was still in theaters

    • @keithode1737
      @keithode1737 6 лет назад +33

      Seeing this movie in IMAX was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. We turned around and saw it in 3D and walked out in disgust. IMAX was MADE for this movie.

    • @TheJuDirnt
      @TheJuDirnt 5 лет назад +2

      same

    • @RED01SEA
      @RED01SEA 5 лет назад +1

      call me crazy i dont to this day think that 2049 is a blade runner movie its not a scifi noir at all
      it doesnt feel the same . its like too clean too artificial like a copy of a copy an emulation if you will
      that doesnt mean that its bad . its amazing but not a blade runner movie (i think akira or gemini rue are)
      imo

    • @ryanlion8848
      @ryanlion8848 5 лет назад +2

      I wish i did!

    • @Krizzee
      @Krizzee 5 лет назад

      Dolby digital went to see it 3 times in Hollywood . Saw the movie recently on HBO and it just wasn't the same experience .

  • @24FramesOfNick
    @24FramesOfNick 6 лет назад +575

    Jay from red letter media brought up an amazing point, that if Deckard wasn't in the trailer, the reveal would've been absolutely fantastic. Yet him being marketed in the film was one of the only ways to get certain butts in seats sadly. I really wish this movie was a box office smash cause it was near perfect in my eye. Denis Villeneuve is creating yearly amazing films so I hope it never stops.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 6 лет назад +26

      24 Frames Of Nick he wasn't just in the trailer, he was on the posters too and was promoting the movie. I think it was a bad idea. Even people going because of the Harrison Ford would be disappointed by how little he was in it. It would have been like putting Mark Hamill all over the ads for TFA.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +25

      Denis is the man.
      And I agree with Jay. I think that if Ragnorak would've kept the "fight scene" a secret that would've been one of the most insane reveals of 2017

    • @danphillips2784
      @danphillips2784 5 лет назад +13

      Ford doesn't have a BIG part, but it's an important part... K finds meaning through aiding Deckard.

    • @AniAni-gs7po
      @AniAni-gs7po 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah, I even heard that Dennis Villuneve (I probably spell that wrong) wanted to keep him out of marketing too.

    • @freedom55or95
      @freedom55or95 3 года назад

      @@danphillips2784 Yes. Finally someone said it.

  • @dmcgullwing5148
    @dmcgullwing5148 5 лет назад +262

    When my dad turned on the tv and said this is what we are watching I was like “Blade runner? What the hell is Blade runner?” Now it is one of my favourite films ever

    • @Yxalitis
      @Yxalitis 4 года назад +1

      @NADS IQ Does it matter?

    • @ikaika6397
      @ikaika6397 4 года назад +1

      NADS IQ their both in my top five films of all time. Got a problem with that?

    • @AlwaysBonpoint
      @AlwaysBonpoint 4 года назад +1

      Same, I remember watching it as a kid when it first came out and being completely blown away by the visuals, I love this movie.

    • @adityasanthosh702
      @adityasanthosh702 4 года назад

      @NADS IQ I bet older than you kiddo.

    • @dynamics3261
      @dynamics3261 Год назад

      @@AlwaysBonpoint I watched in theaters when it released and I was so confused the entire time. I decided to rewatch it and the original and I love them both.

  • @IllumTheMessage
    @IllumTheMessage 4 года назад +62

    Great sci-fi has to flop. Dumbing it down for mass appeal makes garbage.

  • @muckiprovokator8496
    @muckiprovokator8496 6 лет назад +1630

    best movie in 2017.

    • @demikou8583
      @demikou8583 6 лет назад +5

      I AGREE!

    • @davidcruztoribio2297
      @davidcruztoribio2297 6 лет назад +8

      It's a shame that not so much people give themselves an opportunity to wacht it

    • @Jay2Bee
      @Jay2Bee 6 лет назад +14

      its almost half of the year 2018, Blade Runner 2049 is still best movie so far, no doubts...well imho :D

    • @paulkoziel3614
      @paulkoziel3614 6 лет назад +8

      Best movie ever made

    • @bmvhusky
      @bmvhusky 6 лет назад +6

      Agreed. And I didn't remotely mind that the trailers barely told you anything. It allowed you to go in with a fresh mind and just enjoy having the story told to you. It was an outstanding story and visually stunning. Every shot had purpose. Bravo.

  • @carl_anderson9315
    @carl_anderson9315 6 лет назад +480

    I've always said it: Joi is real. She asked K to take her with him even when he didn't want to put her on risk. And when his ship was taken down, her reaction was emotional: she cried and tried to wake him up, even though he was unconscious at that moment. Everybody talks about the billboard hologram scene and how it means that K just realizes that Joi was fake all the time, but to me it is the moment he realizes she was different all the time.

    • @oneopinion6806
      @oneopinion6806 6 лет назад +92

      Agree 100%. Many think the big advertisement is a gutpunch because K sees she was just a program, but I see it as the nature/nurture impact on all life. That we all start with some set of code and while that provides a base, it is the experiences we collect further define us. So Joi started as this mass produced base program, as the advertisement shows, but the particular Joi we see throuhout the film gets more and more individual making decisions that wouldn't make sense if she was just following some inherent programming. The relationship of Joi and K feels like the next big question after the first movie's question on Deckard and Rachel (and handled far better than that first movie as well.)

    • @carl_anderson9315
      @carl_anderson9315 6 лет назад +62

      A B Exactly. It makes you wonder if Joi made K human or the other way around. One thing is indisputable: not K, or Joi or Rachel were mere artificial products. They developed a “soul” through human contact. They were able to feel affection and pain.

    • @MBeist-vi7ho
      @MBeist-vi7ho 6 лет назад +1

      Give me total directive control over a nigh sentient ai bound to serve a man and I will give something realer than what most of what is more naturally common

    • @zebbleganubi723
      @zebbleganubi723 6 лет назад +48

      theres the hooker who says that there isnt much inside joi's head, the billboard scene and a few other hints here and there, but i still have a feeling she advanced past her basic programming.
      its just typical bladerunner. they are trying to get you thinking so you have something to argue about for the next 20 years until the next movie comes out

    • @Zenowitz22
      @Zenowitz22 6 лет назад +7

      Carlos Arias But honestly is she really sentient? Because I think no one addresses the fact that she can't leave by her own will, so she is a slave in a way.

  • @random3785
    @random3785 4 года назад +68

    Blade runner 2049 was one of the greatest movies I’ve seen in years

  • @RawandCookedVegan
    @RawandCookedVegan 4 года назад +101

    Using Frodo as a typical hero is an interesting choice when Frodo is very small, the author, JRR Tolkien, was wanting to show that superficial qualities are not relevant in determining someone's value.

    • @bradleywoods3742
      @bradleywoods3742 2 года назад +15

      Exactly, the whole point of Frodo being the "hero" is that anyone can be a hero, as there was nothing unique or special about him except that he's a little braver and more adventurous than your average hobbit.

    • @glowerworm
      @glowerworm 2 года назад +3

      @@bradleywoods3742 doesn't the fact that his heart is abnormally pure and he is abnormally good at resisting the ring's influence make him unique?

    • @bradleywoods3742
      @bradleywoods3742 2 года назад +8

      @@glowerworm Nope, being a good person isn't a superpower/ability a select few people are born with, it is something that everyone can become, no matter their background. Also, I can tell your not a big Tolkien fan because you would remember that Frodo DID give in to the rings influence and gollum bit of his finger at mount doom and fell into the lava. There also were numerous times throughout the story when Frodo was overly protective of the ring.

    • @glowerworm
      @glowerworm 2 года назад +2

      @@bradleywoods3742 yes, Frodo gave in to the ring's influence. But it took a long time for his will to break. Compare that to any one else, some of whom attempted to steal the ring after just *looking* at it.
      I didn't say Frodo was immune to the Ring's influence. He was strong against it, though. And it's not because he was a good person, but because he had a strong will. Aragorn and Gandalf were good people and even they didn't trust themselves to ever hold the ring.
      It has to do with willpower, not goodness. People are good through their actions. Resisting the ring requires willpower. Different things.

    • @pietzsche
      @pietzsche Год назад +2

      @@glowerworm This is a misreading imo, Frodo was able to withstand the ring precisely because he wasn't special, the trick to the ring's power was corruption, those who were greater gave the ring more to work with, Frodo was able to resist because there wasn't anything to work with, he had no desire for greatness, and wasn't meant for it the way that Aragorn, or Gandalf or Galadriel were. They were all powerful beings who had a war to fight against evil, Frodo just wanted to go home to his friends, and for them to be ok.
      That's not something that can be corrupted the way the others could, and it's not something that could be solved by becoming a huge power.

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy 6 лет назад +192

    Joi is one of my favorite characters in the movie. At first she does come off as a bit artificial and superficial but as the movie progresses there is that apparent desire for her to become more real. I love the scene when he brings her along in his flying car and the look on her face is like a child on a ride at Disney world. If it is a lie it is what Mark Twain said: "The best lie is the sincere lie," and this is the lie that certain characters happen to believe themselves even if they are not completely convinced what they are hearing and seeing is the truth.

    • @celebrim1
      @celebrim1 2 года назад +1

      The love leaves open the question of whether Joi existed at all, or was simply a projection of what Joe would have wanted in a companion. It's quite possible that Joe and Joi having a relationship was entirely a lie.

    • @schizoidboy
      @schizoidboy 2 года назад +1

      @@celebrim1 Interesting point, but keep in mind something artificial that is designed to be a submissive entity might have difficulty expressing itself as a real human might. Joi does try to go beyond what we might think a artificial girl might, but again you may be right about it being a lie, but is it? Keep in mind Joe himself may not be allowed a girlfriend because he's an android and Joi is as close as he can get.

    • @Waywardpaladin
      @Waywardpaladin 2 года назад +9

      @@schizoidboy Think if you met someone who during their upbringing was taught that if you want a partner, you should become what they want. You enter a relationship with this person not knowing that, to you it just seems like you two get along really well and what luck you like all the same things. Is that not a real relationship?
      So JOI is meant to adapt to a person and make them happy. That desire to make you happy was programmed into her, but in a similar way someone who is a 'people pleaser' has been programmed by genetics and upbringing.
      But if she can 'feel' disappointment when you are unhappy, when she comes up with plans on how to progress your relationship, when she goes against the law and sacrifices herself for you, she at least seems to be a sapient being, even if her cornerstone motive wasn't something she got to choose in a vacuum.

    • @alanparsonsfan
      @alanparsonsfan Год назад +1

      @@Waywardpaladin Perhaps the question is whether a sentient AI can have/develop feelings. Is Joi sentient? Could she validly pass the Turing test? Is the Turing test truly capable of determining sentience?

    • @Waywardpaladin
      @Waywardpaladin Год назад

      @@alanparsonsfan In AI research they are working on teaching programs analogs for 'pain' and 'shame' to motivate them to avoid mistakes, so we will see where that goes :p

  • @sokka44
    @sokka44 6 лет назад +314

    The last time I was so entranced by a cinematic experience was Interstellar. It's movies like this that make me love film

    • @robertonome2448
      @robertonome2448 6 лет назад +14

      Saddly Interestellar ending sucked ass (the original ending from the script was basically replaced by a family friendly one, because money)
      But yeah, it could have easily earned its spot as a sci fi classic if not for that

    • @robertonome2448
      @robertonome2448 6 лет назад +7

      +Gravel Not complaining about the tesseract scene if you paid any attention at all. It's the outcome that wasn't supposed to be like this. After interating with the Tesseract and sending the message to his daughter, Cooper should have died in space (as he would in any realistic script), not knowing whether Murphy has been able to figure out his theory or not. I'm complaining about the "Space rangers rescued you" bullshit, which is just plain lazy writing to reduce the movie's classification in order to sell it to a wider audience - which wasn't Nolan's plan with the movie's direction in the first place. If THAT was altered, then yeah, it would definitely be a classic... Oh, and btw, there's no such thing as a "flawless film".

    • @zebbleganubi723
      @zebbleganubi723 6 лет назад +8

      exact same here. this movie and interstellar are my favourite from the last decade and if they didnt exist all my favourite movies would be from a long long time ago. its a shame they are so rare these days

    • @zebbleganubi723
      @zebbleganubi723 6 лет назад

      roberto. first ive heard of that. very interesting and i like the sound of that even though i really enjoyed it the was it is.
      i wonder if thats something that could be easily fixed? *goes to search for fan edits

    • @DiskFelcore
      @DiskFelcore 6 лет назад +1

      @lawerence sensei Try watching Silence it's a movie that had be so entranzed the whole time and some of the best acting and cinmatography I have ever seen.

  • @akky294628
    @akky294628 4 года назад +36

    This is why studios meddle with production of movies.
    When they don't we get masterpieces like these and people don't see them in the theaters.

  • @brockbenavides7185
    @brockbenavides7185 2 года назад +31

    2049 is without a doubt the single most BEAUTIFUL film I have ever seen. Cinematic perfection, every department knew the task. Denis communicates his vision so passionately you feel it. This feeling brings out the best in everyone imo.

    • @silnin
      @silnin 10 месяцев назад +1

      amen

  • @MarkMcAllister-ni9sf
    @MarkMcAllister-ni9sf 6 лет назад +460

    This movie is the antedote to the corruption of post-modernism...even when finding out that your life has no real purpose, you make the time you have meaningful, by doing responsible things...life has no meaning, but responsibility does, and responsibility is hard because true meaning is never cheap. Do not look to the Universe to give you purpose, take your meaning from the Universe by taking on responsibilities, the only way to live a purposeful life.

    • @RichardRagan
      @RichardRagan 6 лет назад +27

      Beautifully stated -- how to achieve meaning from meaninglessness.

    • @kellybrown6988
      @kellybrown6988 6 лет назад +12

      To Love , Obey, and Serve God, is man's purpose in life!

    • @jiggajigjones8210
      @jiggajigjones8210 6 лет назад +5

      Gdertcnjiireahjᅥᅧ2097643eethjiiwad you cretin.

    • @dafyddil
      @dafyddil 6 лет назад +14

      Excellent comment, Mark, and totally in line with positive psychology. Reminds me exactly of something Carl Sagan said.

    • @jimmyholt6669
      @jimmyholt6669 6 лет назад +12

      Mark McAllister Its funny that your statement contradicts itself when you talk on the corruption of post modernism, explaining your views on the world, which is post modern. Those who are post modernists don't believe in absolutes, therefore, what you say is not absolute. It would have been more appropriate if you said this in a subjective way instead of objective.

  • @lonewolfgamingplus379
    @lonewolfgamingplus379 6 лет назад +237

    Blade Runner 2049 was the best movie I've ever seen in my life. It was a success in my heart, screw the box office numbers, the art is all that matters and Denis even says that he makes movies not for the money but the love for the art form.

    • @meeszanten1720
      @meeszanten1720 4 года назад +1

      Lone WolfGamingPlus have you seen the original blade runner final cut tho cause its 100 times better

    • @colete888
      @colete888 2 года назад +2

      @@meeszanten1720 I think you got it backwards buddy

  • @rawbeanuk
    @rawbeanuk 5 лет назад +33

    Great points. To me the absolute heart of the film, its themes that you touched on here, and the 'is Deckard a Replicant?' debate are all perfectly crystallised in my favourite moment in the film: In Las Vegas, when K asks Deckard if his dog is real (the almost reflex preoccupation everyone has in both films whenever an animal is present), and Deckard shrugs and says he doesn't know, 'ask him'. He implies in that moment that it doesn't matter, it's the wrong question to ask, and how the dog thinks and feels about himself is more important than how he was created. That to me is the answer to whether Deckard is 'real', or K, or Joi.
    *shrug* I don't know. Ask them.

  • @thecountbassy_
    @thecountbassy_ 5 лет назад +40

    It speaks volumes that, for me at least, the death of an AI was the most affecting moment in the film. Holy crap Luv is brutal. And the fact that she dies like a real person because she wanted to be a real person and live a real life? Denis, you’re amazing.

  • @RexusKing
    @RexusKing 6 лет назад +166

    Just found out Joi's commercial literally says "Everything you want to hear", maybe that's why K said "You don't have to say that" when Joi tells him she loves him?
    But I'm still convinced that their relationship is authentic.

    • @EscapeVelocity11186
      @EscapeVelocity11186 6 лет назад +30

      I guess that's just part of the beauty of the whole idea: there is no definitive answer. For me, I felt like the part where the ad says "Everything you want to hear" and "Everything you want to see" was evidence that Joi was nothing more than programming, but one can just as easily make an argument that she moved beyond her programming when she consents to being moved to her emanator and losing one of her most secure lifelines.
      And to K, does it matter?

    • @RexusKing
      @RexusKing 6 лет назад

      Yeah, totally agree about the movie without a definitive answer, but what do you mean about K doesn't matter?

    • @EscapeVelocity11186
      @EscapeVelocity11186 6 лет назад +10

      Ah, perhaps I was a bit vague on that. By that, I meant does it matter to K whether or not she really felt any "feelings" for him - whether what she did was programmed or her own, independent decision. On that topic, I'm not sure whether it matters to K. On one hand, the end result is the same for him. On the other, though, we can clearly see that he's not sure what to think about it once he sees the massive Joi hologram - he'd rather not find out the answer, in fear that it would not be the answer he wanted.

    • @obscure.reference
      @obscure.reference 6 лет назад +2

      I mean, you're wrong, but if your interpretation enhances the movie for you then It doesn't hurt anyone.

    • @dj1NM3
      @dj1NM3 6 лет назад +1

      I was a bit puzzled as to why K was so transfixed by the holographic advert for Joi, it's not like he wouldn't have seen the same sort of advertising before he bought his copy.

  • @neveser
    @neveser 6 лет назад +108

    2049 is an absolute masterpiece.

  • @richardgarrett5322
    @richardgarrett5322 Год назад +27

    I've watched 2049 three times. It haunts me. It's like the original Blade Runner. It's really interesting with so much to absorb.

  • @MartinPoulter
    @MartinPoulter 5 лет назад +62

    "Is it real?" "I dunno- ask him."

  • @pseudocool9765
    @pseudocool9765 6 лет назад +42

    “That it’s fake, but if it makes us feel something real...does it matter”
    That killed it, in a good way

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 6 лет назад +33

    something that has stuck with me that the original Blade Runner taught me that was really explored in the sequel which made me love it is that if you yourself are not sure whether or not you are authentic to the point where it haunts you and you worry over it doesn't that in of itself show some degree of authenticity? And even if you are human and don't worry about it at all doesn't that lack of curiosity make you less authentic? How real are you really if you are never truly sincere or at least try to be? These questions are what makes me love both films

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад

      It's ambiguity done right!

    • @homerinchinatown2
      @homerinchinatown2 5 лет назад

      Nice comment. Perhaps one could say 'how much it matters to you is how much it matters at all'...?

    • @ChinoGitano
      @ChinoGitano 2 года назад

      “I care, therefore I am.” :-)

  • @pollister7482
    @pollister7482 5 лет назад +13

    "But if it makes us something feel. Does it matter?" Thanks mate I'll take this to heart.

  • @Brentisimo
    @Brentisimo 4 года назад +21

    I was in the midst of a horrific divorce when I saw Blade Runner 2049. The first scene showing K and Joi together was one of the most inspirational portrayals of a pure, innocent love that I’ve ever witnessed. It gave me hope of experiencing something similar someday.

    • @sIytendencies
      @sIytendencies 2 года назад +2

      stay strong king

    • @Brentisimo
      @Brentisimo 2 года назад +1

      @@sIytendencies yes. You’re right.

    • @rl4195
      @rl4195 Год назад

      So you want a maid? Sounds very incel of you.

    • @dariolol3565
      @dariolol3565 10 месяцев назад

      Well I wish you the best of luck. Although, I would say, it seems obvious joi is an ai in the first scene. From the moment rain touches her though, the raindrops go through her and then suddenly it no longer does. From there, she, to me, started learning to be more like a real girl

  • @andyhoov
    @andyhoov 6 лет назад +56

    Here's a question to ponder. Is Joi's desire to go out into the world via the portable hologram device an aspect of her will, or is it a desire programmed into her to get Joi owners to buy the device?
    As for the box office of the film, I think in the long run it will be deemed a success because 30 years from now people will still be watching and talking about it. I don't think the same can be said for most blockbusters, regardless of how much money they pull in.

    • @GoldenEggWitch
      @GoldenEggWitch 6 лет назад +2

      andyhoov this makes me so sad

    • @AlexFeature
      @AlexFeature 6 лет назад +1

      Man i never though of this. This movie is a bloody masterpiece.

    • @danphillips2784
      @danphillips2784 5 лет назад +1

      The emanator opens a world for Joi that I doubt many Jois get to experience, though it certainly is possible that her "cabin fever" was a ploy to pressure K into an upgrade.

    • @cholesterolkilla
      @cholesterolkilla 5 лет назад +2

      I asked this very same question myself. Lets take it even further though, could there be some sort of planned / promoted obsolescence built into Joi’s programming? With the ability to take Joi with you anywhere on a device that can easily get lost, stolen or broken combined with Joi’s request for K to tear her from her home console, couldn’t Wallace Co plan on people desperate enough to buy their products to get a taste and hook them and get them dependent on the experience Joi provides? It would definitely mean more business / profit for Wallace.

    • @danphillips2784
      @danphillips2784 5 лет назад +1

      cholesterolkilla Hard to tell....I'm not sure most Joi owners are encouraged to delete their virtual girlfriends from the home consoles...but the fragility of the emanators certainly guarantee a high demand for replacements.

  • @RyanJacobChannel
    @RyanJacobChannel 6 лет назад +250

    Seen the film 3 times, planning to see a fourth. Obviously you can tell I hated it...
    Anyways, I’d like to think that K is the main character but the story revolved more around Deckard and Racheal. Like you boldly stated how he’s a slave based on who and what he is, but once the opportunity arises on the possibility of being something more, he gains hope from that. Him at one point believing that he could be that Replicant-born child. However, once he discovers it’s a lie, he loses that hope and he’s right back where he was at the beginning of the film.
    But due to the relationship of him and Joi (which I believe she was becoming sentient, since her last words were “I love you” before she dies), he makes that decision to save Deckard HIMSELF. That decision was special and it pays off since “dying for the right cause is the most human thing we can do”. By reuniting a father to his daughter. Nothing super duper extremely big where he saves the world, but a simple cause such as that.
    Dying in the snow meant he was at peace within himself, and he accepts it. I like to think the film was about K discovering his humanity. Except that moment won’t be lost in time like tears in rain, but will be remembered by Deckard, which is another form of a meaningful existence.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +8

      Bruh, I saw K like a new form of Batty. Dying after saving Deckard and for a noble cause

    • @interlude44
      @interlude44 6 лет назад +2

      I am gonna miss K :( you think they’ll be a next one?

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 6 лет назад +2

      I believe joi was sentient because she behaved as if she loved him when he was unconcious.
      I didn't like the way ford took over the picture once he started and would have preferred K remained the focus.
      K doesn't have to the chosen one to be the protagonist. But it is irritating when the protagonist for 2/3 of the film is shoved aside for the big name star. Ford essentially became the protagonist. They did the same thing with him in TFA.
      On star wars main trilogy of trilogies-- it *was* the story of the skywalker clan and how they balanced the force.
      What they did at the end of TFA and in the beginning of TLJ was a complete canon reboot. It would be akin to reading a book for 30 chapters and then in the last 10 chapters they kill all the existing protagonists and their antagonists, dumped all the philosophical concepts the story was previously exploring, even dumped the existing "rules of the universe established for the prior 30 chapters", and finished the story with new protagonists, antagonists, new philosophy, and new ground rules for the universe.
      It would be like if in book 6 of harry potter, *everyone* died including voldemort and the last story was about the characters from the french school making a new technological bomb.
      it would have been better to set this story as *not* part of the trilogy, much further in the future. Don't say you are going to finish the trilogy to get fan's money and then reboot it.

    • @zebbleganubi723
      @zebbleganubi723 6 лет назад +3

      i got the same feeling there was definitely a bit more to joi even though they hinted multiple times that she was just some bot that had been programmed. the last big reveal is where the huge joi hologram on the street calls k a "good joe". that doesnt really mean she wasnt sentient, just that they start off programmed the same but she still might be capable of having her own thoughts at some point.
      something else ive been thinking about; she seemed to get the concept of the replicants being able to reproduce without having it explained to her. this wouldnt have been anything she was programmed to know about since the people who programmed her would not have known it was possible at the time. but i suppose if she was a really advanced ai then that might explain it

    • @Zenowitz22
      @Zenowitz22 6 лет назад +6

      zebble ganubi Well they also had on the joi billboard "everything you want to see, everything you want to hear." She was perfect for K because I believe she was designed to be perfect for any consumer. I think we just need more info because who's to say that she wouldnt be in absolute love with an evil abusive owner.

  • @Alniemi
    @Alniemi 2 года назад +13

    One of the best movies of the 21st century so far. It really makes you think of what makes sentience. The "Real" people, The replicants, and Joi

  • @ImNotHereEither
    @ImNotHereEither 4 года назад +6

    Art should never be judged on how much money it makes. It has everything to do with how it makes you feel. This film is so beautiful, and has every major creative involved working at the peak of their powers. In time it will be seen as the classic it is, and a brilliant addition to the original story.

  • @litheran69
    @litheran69 6 лет назад +40

    The main character is the character you're meant to identify/empathize with. If that's not k than i must have been watching a different film. I thought the story between K and Joi was beautiful in a tragic sort of way.

  • @lagaman11
    @lagaman11 5 лет назад +44

    "He's a handbook that becomes a poem"... Wow! I love that, and it's so true. The beautiful lie, it is so damn true.

    • @danphillips2784
      @danphillips2784 3 года назад +1

      Part of the quotation is that Joi sees K as a poem, and that she became one too, if I remember right.

  • @mickshi279
    @mickshi279 5 лет назад +12

    Watched blade runner again recently and thanks for mention the quote: (die) like a real girl. This line of script really hit me hard

  • @vikitawindarwati4237
    @vikitawindarwati4237 5 лет назад +2

    I liked it so much when the twist revealed. He's the main character that we see but he's not 'the one', and his decision afterward is his own decision. it's kinda soothing and reassuring to have this kind of character sometimes 😊

  • @AustinPPutnam
    @AustinPPutnam 6 лет назад +307

    Man I LOVED this movie so much. This video made me appreciate the movie that much more too. Denis Villenueve is one of the best directors working today. Dude hasn't had a misfire yet. Blade Runner 2049 proves just how talented he is.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +11

      Denis is the MASTER!

    • @Psyfi85
      @Psyfi85 6 лет назад +14

      Deakins cinematography was perfect as always too. This film hit me hard the first time I went to see it. And the second..

    • @ErizotDread
      @ErizotDread 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah, so far I've seen 3 of his movies, and all 3 have stuck with me long after viewing. After Arrival, I basically decided I'll watch anything he makes.

    • @souloftheage
      @souloftheage 6 лет назад +3

      ErizotDread I saw ARRIVAL 5 times in the theater with 5 different friends. They each loved it.

    • @zebbleganubi723
      @zebbleganubi723 6 лет назад

      cant wait for dune. i dont have a clue what its about but im not even going to check before hand

  • @carsonwhaley4935
    @carsonwhaley4935 6 лет назад +118

    I remember being really moved by the last minute or so in Blade Runner 2049, but I couldn't figure out why. All I can do is wait a couple months and watch it again. This is truly the best movie of 2017, and maybe for a few years to come.

    • @carsonwhaley4935
      @carsonwhaley4935 6 лет назад

      Oh yeah by the way this is one of your best videos too, only fits for such a perfect movie

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +9

      I think it'll only get better with rewatches. Denis knows how to craft a movie!

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 6 лет назад

      I couldn't wait to move to the exit. Loss aversion for paying for an Imax ticket I guess. I noticed many in the audience didn't have the same aversion.

    • @marcotine7119
      @marcotine7119 6 лет назад +7

      Same reaction as you, here. The first time around, I felt something about the movie resonated deeply with me, but couldn't quite tell what. In subsequent views, I was able to form my understanding of the story and catch meanings, metaphors and aims. Blade Runner 2049 is thoughtful on many levels, it offers multiple layers of interpretation, and yet the plot manages to be round, concluded and coherent.
      The other reason that drew me to the movies three times (with a fourth scheduled for the end of the month) is the audio. I don't have an home theater yet, but can't imagine this film played on anything less than an expensive Dolby Atmos system. Wallfisch and Zimmer's score can't quite stand on its own like the legendary one from Vangelis, but as a complement to this particular movie it's just perfect.
      It adds a raw kind of power that honestly, I had never experienced before at the movies, let alone a tiny room. I have no regrets paying for another ticket for this reason alone.

    • @valentina5885
      @valentina5885 6 лет назад +5

      One of the most beautiful and perfect endings I've ever seen

  • @CrystalMouse1
    @CrystalMouse1 2 года назад +2

    This is the best video I've seen that asks what I wanted to ask but couldn't find it for some reason. This film made me feel such surprising feelings I've not gotten from a film since "Grave of the Fireflies." I left this film feeling empty yet somehow glad I was empty. Really unusual and a sign of great art

  • @FernandoCastro-rg7wi
    @FernandoCastro-rg7wi 3 года назад +10

    I thought you were going to talk about how Joi points to K and calls him Joe towards the end... to me it seemed like Joi WAS just an A.I. as much as I would like their love to be real.. that's just my take (:

  • @brotherbrod
    @brotherbrod 5 лет назад +73

    Ive watched this movie over 50 times since its release. It’s my favorite movie of all time, and in my opinion the greatest sequel of all time. It’s a beautiful movie with an even more beautiful message. Every performance was masterfully acted to point where it doesn’t even feel like it’s an act at all. The cinematography is the best I’ve ever seen. Truly one of the greatest movies ever made.

    • @gamerdan2310
      @gamerdan2310 Год назад +3

      I've only watched it 3x so far, and I have to absolutely agree with you. I most certainly get exactly what you said.

    • @robbenvanpersie1562
      @robbenvanpersie1562 Год назад

      What is the message of the movie?

  • @DylinH-
    @DylinH- 6 лет назад +181

    Loved how you had joji’s song will he playing in the background

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +18

      It's smooth

    • @coreygill6010
      @coreygill6010 6 лет назад +2

      It's actually called the love theme from a movie called Lost River

    • @trickydec
      @trickydec 5 лет назад

      Corey Gill is right, it's the song from Lost River. Directed by Gosling and sung by Saoirse Ronan. Awesome movie, awesome soundtrack.

    • @simplytanya
      @simplytanya 5 лет назад

      @@trickydec no the first part is joji

    • @nazmusshadad7155
      @nazmusshadad7155 5 лет назад

      The first background music is joji's will he

  • @blingblong8014
    @blingblong8014 4 года назад +4

    "We're focusing on the wrong question..." - brilliant observation! Totally agree!

  • @g33dav3y
    @g33dav3y 4 года назад +3

    5:51 The question about Deckard is not whether he's a replicant, nor "whether it matters"; the question is whether he's human.
    This is a question that is explored in both movies.

  • @rorywhelan_
    @rorywhelan_ 6 лет назад +108

    Is no one else gonna comment on how unbelievably hot Ana de armas is?

    • @Impuritan1
      @Impuritan1 6 лет назад +21

      R_J I hate to sound like that type of guy but damn she is hot as hell.

    • @smeve883
      @smeve883 6 лет назад +5

      She's a goddess

    • @NW23Champ
      @NW23Champ 6 лет назад +6

      it's understood. we're all some replicants.

    • @Pic4949
      @Pic4949 6 лет назад +11

      Quite possibly the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.

    • @bigtip8371
      @bigtip8371 6 лет назад +5

      So hot in War Dogs too

  • @NimTV
    @NimTV 6 лет назад +515

    I loved this movie! I like the original, but I think this one is far better! This will probably end up on many best sequels of all time lists. Great movie

    • @TheJthedog
      @TheJthedog 6 лет назад +23

      NimTV i mean, any film sequel That can actually feel as good or better then the original is a win in any book.

    • @NimTV
      @NimTV 6 лет назад +8

      MrWednsday1 yeah I do as well. Especially the tears in rain part. That’s one of he best moments in cinematic history

    • @NimTV
      @NimTV 6 лет назад

      Rork, The Game Master depends on how good the original is, which in this case it is good

    • @AlejandroGonzalez-gh1to
      @AlejandroGonzalez-gh1to 6 лет назад +1

      NimTV same here man I love this movie so much it's not just my favorite of the year it's up there on my favorites of all time

    • @NimTV
      @NimTV 6 лет назад +1

      Alejandro Gonzalez yeah I agree

  • @GiovanniBurroni
    @GiovanniBurroni 4 года назад

    I can't thank them enough for the tight seal on the story. I remember the anticipation and satisfaction in sitting down to see it (three times in few days). The shorts that set up and link it to the original.
    It's a masterpiece that fortunately could exist despite the "tanking" in the box office, that don't diminish the value of it in any meaningful way.
    I'm still today attracted to anything that shows any frame of it. You can see it from a mile away.
    I also love your piece about it, and since it's the first thing i've seen made by you, here's a new subscriber.

  • @melancholiac
    @melancholiac 2 года назад +1

    "The only person he's close to is just a hotter version of Siri".
    Love it!

  • @MoviesAreWesomeYeah
    @MoviesAreWesomeYeah 6 лет назад +198

    My favorite movie of the year

    • @amicable5237
      @amicable5237 6 лет назад

      That Sujosh Guy It was alright

    • @carsonwhaley4935
      @carsonwhaley4935 6 лет назад +1

      ᛟ VALHALLA ᛟ What did you not find that great about that movie that just made it "alright"?

    • @SaberRexZealot
      @SaberRexZealot 6 лет назад +3

      Agreed. Don’t remember loving a movie this much in a while.

    • @amicable5237
      @amicable5237 6 лет назад

      Carson Whaley I don’t feel like writing an essay, this guy summed it up pretty well
      ruclips.net/video/t-u6cm6FsNA/видео.html
      It was definitely better than Ghost in the Shell tho

    • @amicable5237
      @amicable5237 6 лет назад

      SaberRexZealot The antagonist and protagonist were bland af, even the god complex of the villain is so cliché

  • @karlmarx71
    @karlmarx71 6 лет назад +11

    The fact it didn't do spectacularly in todays Hollywood fast food special effect machine climate is the absolute ultimate accolade. A beautiful and thought provoking film that continued seamlessly from the original. Most moronic cinema goers want easy to follow plots with all the answers immediately but this classic film serves up long term gratification, leaves the viewer with more questions than answers and is an absolute modern classic. Incomparable to anything contemporary in the sci fi genre and outside. The whole film is littered with philosophical beauty following the originals prose. Utterly love this film, the cast, the director, the pace and the beautiful imagery. Totally amazing....

  • @wetterschneider
    @wetterschneider Год назад +5

    Joi's "desire" to be a "real girl" is something her coding established when during the initial boot process when K bought her. Those programs have a very sophisticated personality generating routine that picks up on the wishes of the owner.

    • @dariolol3565
      @dariolol3565 10 месяцев назад +1

      but does it matter why? She did become more than just a program. You can see her seemingly having consciousness and being curious about things even when K is away or not paying attention to her. Like how she's looking around while in the flying car, looking around Deckard's place, asking K questions about dna, the horse and las vegas

    • @wetterschneider
      @wetterschneider 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@dariolol3565 We all watched her interact with K, and we saw her do all the things you've listed. We were also told, very clearly, in the movie, that she is a program. She is a sophisticated video game npc AI. We are told this. She asks questions! Of course she does. She looks around! Of course she does. The company that makes her, also makes the device to let be carried around. We don't know that she "became more than a program" and we wouldn't because we aren't given that information. This is one of the themes of the movie.

    • @dariolol3565
      @dariolol3565 10 месяцев назад +1

      @wetterschneider Yes, she is a program, but not just any program. She's an AI that is able to learn.
      I like to think of her as a person that just has a default personality, but that doesn't mean you can't change it. You can see how different the joi in the ad and K's joi are.
      So since she's able to learn, that makes so much stuff possible.
      She tells K that she wants to be like a real human and you can see she tried by comparing her to the joi in the ad. It's impossible that she was programmed to act 100% just like a human. No, she learned it. Joi in the first scene definitely looks a lot less like a human than later on

    • @wetterschneider
      @wetterschneider 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@dariolol3565 Just to be clear - I'm not trying to be combative or argumentative or any of that usual internet crap. I love this movie and I really love this detail. I appreciate the conversation about it. It's kind of dumb that we can only do this sort of thing here on YT - and there's not a better SM structure for conversing and tracking.
      The part of the story where she does grow and become more "herself" and the obvious affection that K feels for her is very important. Is she moving from simulation to "real"? We are intended to ask that. Does K really feel "real feelings" for her or is he also a sort of simulation in a fleshy body? That's also a theme of the movie. Replicants are not being treated like they are real, but we, the audience, very easily accept them as people. By contrasting our easy acceptance with the harder question about Joi... we get some fun juicy philosophical questions rolling. Why accept him and not her? Why deny her and not him? Is self a spectrum?

    • @dariolol3565
      @dariolol3565 10 месяцев назад

      @@wetterschneider Great comment! I agree

  • @Weird_but_neat
    @Weird_but_neat 4 года назад +1

    I just sat down and watched the original for the first time and had to take a month to see the sequel...now I’m going down the rabbit hole. Thanks

  • @GG-pv9cn
    @GG-pv9cn 6 лет назад +12

    "And dreadfully distinct against the dark, a tall white fountain played."
    This reference Nabokov's Pale Fire is a perfect depiction of the question of authenticity--of fate--in Bladerunner.

  • @meyeame8956
    @meyeame8956 5 лет назад +12

    1:54 - Exactly. In other words, they didn't sell out, and it shows! This movie was pure art and fantastic and was such an amazing breath of fresh air to modern movie making. So great.

  • @MistaWells
    @MistaWells 4 года назад

    AtZ: plays Will He in the background.
    Me: ahh, a man of culture!

  • @nelsonclub7722
    @nelsonclub7722 Год назад +1

    In the days where you don't need to watch a film just the trailer I approve of this message

  • @qperci80
    @qperci80 5 лет назад +17

    I feel bad for not spending money to see this in the theater now. For sure one of the best movies I’ve seen

  • @johnmarston2616
    @johnmarston2616 5 лет назад +38

    Excellent analysis. I especially appreciate that you draw the same connection between Joi and K as with the Deckard question. Yes Joi is an AI, yes she was programmed to be the girl K wants her to be, but speaking for myself I felt something when Joi was killed by Luv. No matter how artificial it may have been, what Joi and K had felt real. So if you have to ask if it was real, does it really matter if it was or not?

  • @CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb
    @CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb Год назад

    A couple of years late to your video - but it was excellent. Thank you. We have been asking this question since the term Robot came about in RUR (Karel Čapek)

  • @energybengt
    @energybengt 4 года назад +1

    This is one of very few analysis videos I've seen that has some actual thoughtfulness in it. Thank you.

  • @BryanLomax
    @BryanLomax 6 лет назад +21

    Still the best movie of the year for me. I love films that can have lots of completely different meanings depending on who is watching. In that sense the questions a film like Blade Runner 2049 raises are far more important than any hard answers it provides. The discussions it provokes force us to take a good look at ourselves and the world around us. Isn't that really what all great art is meant to do?

  • @nothingsurprisesmeanymore
    @nothingsurprisesmeanymore 6 лет назад +24

    Bladerunner has influenced me in my life in many ways, I lived part of my childhood in Hong Kong and feel a real connection to this world. So glad 2049 met my expectations.

  • @johndunn1625
    @johndunn1625 2 года назад +2

    Finally sat down and watched it for the first time like 3 days ago. I was vaguely aware that it existed already, that it was a sequel to the original which I had seen like 15 years ago, but I knew nothing about the plot so I went in practically blind.
    It was slower than I wanted, heavier than I expected, and all around mostly more, I don't know, different than i think it should have been.
    I wouldn't change anything about it though. I loved it, and it definitely gave me a lot to think about the last few days. I think going in blind like I did really elevated the experience of the movie for me, and I really want more movies like this to be more popular

  • @truthof7382
    @truthof7382 3 года назад +2

    I watch movies for the story and to be entertained, but practically every shot in Blade Runner 2049, is a work of art. I started noticing it from the second time I watched on to every time after. Every performance is fantastic.

    • @petertomasetti3338
      @petertomasetti3338 Год назад

      As a degreed fine art painter I agree with u 100%. Every still shot I see of this film I feel like I'm looking at a great work of art. Very few movies are like this and I noticed it in college while watching the movie The Last Temptation of Christ as well.

  • @CARUSAR21
    @CARUSAR21 6 лет назад +19

    This move is so underrated! It will be a classic soon...
    Great video. Thx.

  • @Sam_T2000
    @Sam_T2000 6 лет назад +71

    _Blade Runner 2049_ was the best movie of 2017. it’s a travesty that it wasn’t even nominated for Best Picture. SAD.
    also, K is most definitely the main character, the movie is his story.
    get real.

    • @zenithquasar9623
      @zenithquasar9623 4 года назад

      Sam T what? Not really. He play a part in the story, his life, his memories are not even his!

    • @MatureManure
      @MatureManure 4 года назад +2

      @@zenithquasar9623 so what ?
      He is the guy who chooses. Without him Decart probably wouldnt have been found. He was the person who found him, who rescued him afterwards and who let Decart to his Daughter.

    • @camille8064
      @camille8064 2 года назад +1

      it's a paradox because even though K is the "main character" of this movie in the sense that we follow him, in the end he's just a regular 'joe' as said by joi in that big advertisement. the main take away of the movie is that even though joe is not a human, he chooses to act more 'humane' than anyone else in the movie as proven by his last act and that he died for the better cause. he may not have been the character who was "promised to change everything" as he had previously thought so but he definitely contributed to a bigger cause.

    • @Sam_T2000
      @Sam_T2000 2 года назад

      @@camille8064 - that doesn’t seem like a paradox to me, he’s just the main character outright. he’s the protagonist, he’s the POV character for the most part, and he’s the only one with a full arc. he may not be the special “savior” character he wants to be, but by making his own choices he achieves his humanity.
      perhaps he’s not the main character of the implied Replicant uprising in the universe of _Blade Runner,_ but he’s certainly the main character of the movie we saw.

  • @tedlicious
    @tedlicious 4 года назад +1

    "All that matters is how art influences you personally." Thanks Protagoras.

  • @ItsLifeJim_VB
    @ItsLifeJim_VB 2 года назад

    such an amazing video... and yet the most replayed part is the bit where Joi crouches down and you can see... yeah

  • @vladavram9209
    @vladavram9209 5 лет назад +10

    Nowadays society is sick... Box office, high reviews, great advertising, familiarity, formulas... it's all machinations and the real thing remains in the background. A great movie nowadays is either a blockbuster like Avengers Infinity war or a cinematic experience, trully artistic yet not so easily accepted movie like Blade Runner. IW works not because it's a follow-up or a culmination of a huge project, not because it features well known characters- of course these all help for the financial succes. But IW, just like Blade runner, was done with passion for the story and characters, by people truly involved. Sure. One will be regarded as a box-office hit, the other a failure. But then, one will be remembered as a great action flick, the other as a straight-out classic. Why can't people realise a good movie is that which is more than meets the eye? Which has a story behind the story and a message to tell...

  • @TheAaronredbaron
    @TheAaronredbaron 6 лет назад +6

    For me both Blade Runner films were portals to thinking and feeling novel things. I thoroughly enjoyed the new movie, not because it gave answers to questions or was simply well made, but because it forced me to think about anything and everything. It made me look deeply into the film's world, and consequently how I look at my own world. Truly one of my favorite movies. And thank you for the insightful analysis, I always love listening to what you have to say.

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад

      Any movie that makes us think is worthy of the runtime imo.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @53strat55
    @53strat55 3 года назад

    I hope the production team is able to read this some day. This is really a masterpiece.

  • @HireMichaelEverson
    @HireMichaelEverson Год назад

    I thought the great idea behind K was that he was a vacuum of a character. He had his function which was to unravel the story, but personally he lived in a fantasy that he was a real boy, which became an obsession once it was encouraged. Joi's role was just to indulge his whims. Because he was using it to reinforce this idea, she would indulge him and reaffirm it.
    I think I've seen this movie about 12 times now and it's a comfort to me.

  • @pradeepnagila3332
    @pradeepnagila3332 6 лет назад +61

    i dont give a damn to other's opinion. 2049 made me totally satisfied, it does 100% justice to its prequel.
    Everything about 2049 like the original one is a master-piece.
    if u dont like the movie then its because as what Sapper Morton said to officer k. "" because you've never seen a miracle.""

    • @jfalconredskins
      @jfalconredskins 6 лет назад

      Dumbest miracle ever: replicants being able to have children. Typical Hollywood trash, where everything emotional seems to be broken down to family and children. Does no justice to the original. Dumb fight scenes like the one at the end where the hero suddenly comes back to life to save the day at the last moment, unconvincing villains nobody cares about like some female version of the Terminator, dumb and overlong monologues made only to give exposition, no subtlety whatsoever, and long fucking drawn out scenes that didn't really need to be that long. The original was under 2 hours and is perhaps the greatest sci fi movie of all time. Why did we need to watch almost 3 hours of this crap? I know at lest here I'm in the minority but this movie was trash and made for the only reason of trying to bank on the success of the original, no matter what this director says. IMO only good thing about this movie were the colors and some of the scenery, the music was obnoxious to the point of nearly making my ears bleed. Just a dumb movie overall that in today's society is viewed as some sort of deep, meaningful, cerebral work of art when really it's just a lame-ass attempt by Hollywood to make money off a sequel.

    • @Villenueve1101
      @Villenueve1101 5 лет назад

      @@jfalconredskins
      You know, your reaction is like the people who said Blade Runner is shit and many years later it is now considered to be the best sci fi film ever.

    • @jfalconredskins
      @jfalconredskins 5 лет назад

      @@Villenueve1101 Wishful thinking on your part. The chances of this pile of shit turning into a classic are slim to none. Nice try though.

    • @Villenueve1101
      @Villenueve1101 5 лет назад

      @@jfalconredskins
      That's what also previous people said.

    • @jfalconredskins
      @jfalconredskins 5 лет назад

      @@Villenueve1101So what makes you think that will happen again? I'm sure that what happened with the original was a very unique exception. Most of the time when a movie flops it stays flopped. Maybe I'll develop a cult following of people who really like it, but I seriously doubt it'll achieve masterpiece status. Why? For the reasons I stated above. It has nothing on the original and just isn't a very good movie. All it has going for it are some nice visuals here and there but that's it. Silly Hollywood plot, bad acting, laughable dialogues and horrible acting. It's shit.

  • @drakejohnson2607
    @drakejohnson2607 6 лет назад +138

    "Just because I show a movie to someone and they don't like it..."
    *shows Whiplash*
    Wait, you mean someone actually didn't like that movie?

    • @TheAtZShow
      @TheAtZShow  6 лет назад +68

      I don't speak to them anymore.

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 6 лет назад +18

      Musicians cant stand Whiplash.

    • @edwardchester1
      @edwardchester1 6 лет назад +11

      JJ Ryan Exactly this. One of those films that just doesn't work if you know about the subject matter.

    • @WhirlingMusic
      @WhirlingMusic 6 лет назад +1

      Everyone likes the movie whiplash. No question about it.

    • @jiggajigjones8210
      @jiggajigjones8210 6 лет назад

      Edward Chester im fat

  • @waltblackadar4690
    @waltblackadar4690 4 года назад +1

    All of these moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
    Just a moment....beautiful, isn't it?

  • @pat7785
    @pat7785 5 лет назад +1

    The unicorn dream in the blade runner final cut confirms that deckard is a replicant

  • @f12mnb
    @f12mnb 6 лет назад +6

    Good analysis.
    1. In the original Blade Runner, Deckard hunts the replicants as if they were a malfunctioning machine. In the end he is shown that the replicant Batty has human characteristics: he showed him pity, empathy, compassion and mercy. Yes, he also showed him anger, and hostility but in the end when he knew he was dying, he decided to save Deckard.
    2. In the sequel, K aka "Joe" like Batty saves Deckard. But this time the replicant saves him not out of pity or mercy, he does so out of a deliberate choice to some higher ideal and goal.
    3. Finally, the original film while it clearly has influenced a generation of directors and many film fans, was also not a box office hit and in fact viewed as a disappointment. It simply isn't a film that was meant for everyone. The pacing is very slow, almost glacial at times, in the painstaking way bits of evidence are examined and re-examined. Here, we get lot of long beautiful shots of how much a wreck the world has become. It is not a world we yearn to live in, but rather a pretty terrible place that someone people, replicant and non-replicant, manage to eke out an existence.

  • @islesanctum833
    @islesanctum833 5 лет назад +5

    "Now all those moments in time
    Will be lost like tears in rain"
    It is the epitaph of each and every one of us
    Who will remember us?
    Dust to forgotten dust
    Stunningly simple
    Yet stunningly so very sad........

  • @thetooginator153
    @thetooginator153 Год назад

    Nicely done! I really liked your essay. I suspect future generations are going to be dealing with this exact question, and film seems to be taking the question more seriously as we get closer to that time.

  • @NeilBaker722
    @NeilBaker722 3 года назад

    It didn't pass the sleep test when I saw it in the theater.
    But then I watched a bunch of RUclips videos about it explaining the details and I watched it again and thought it was great.

  • @lefunghi6151
    @lefunghi6151 6 лет назад +28

    I just love Science Fiction excecuted properly or well, in my taste. But Blade Runner 2049 is more than just a great SciFi Movie for me. It made me feel, made me dream and think about things about my own life. Which is a great Achievement for a Movie.
    Because even if you move only one person with your work, it’s worth more than anything in the World.

  • @YouFightLikeACow
    @YouFightLikeACow 6 лет назад +93

    DECK-ard, not DE-KARD right? Good video tho

    • @360.Tapestry
      @360.Tapestry 6 лет назад +9

      captain jean luc dicard!

    • @malieberg1
      @malieberg1 6 лет назад +6

      Noticed that as well. It confuses me how people mispronounce proper nouns when it is heard everywhere.

    • @spacemansabs
      @spacemansabs 6 лет назад +4

      [SFW]Mark L. You’d expect him to know how to pronounce it if he liked the movie so much right?

    • @TomClyde87
      @TomClyde87 6 лет назад +3

      Rick Dekard is a reference to a french philosopher René Descartes (de-Kart)

  • @deanfirnatine7814
    @deanfirnatine7814 3 года назад

    I fear these questions are ones that we are going to be forced to ask ourselves sooner than we are ready

  • @nihilityjoey
    @nihilityjoey 4 года назад

    Great video. This was a superb film. I'm glad I knew next to nothing going into it. The baseline test is also tied to the question "what is human/alive". Cells within cells, interlinked. The moment cells began to merge with other cells, allowing us to eventually exist.

  • @carlrambow1277
    @carlrambow1277 6 лет назад +4

    this was a fantastic movie! felt exactly like the original, its like nothing was lost in the 30 years we had to wait for a new one. and thats what makes it a great movie. also, I love when movies dont show huge scenes for previews, it gives us a chance to ACTUALLY BE SURPRISED WHEN THEY HAPPEN IN THE MOVIE.

  • @deadeyeduncan3865
    @deadeyeduncan3865 6 лет назад +47

    Is that Joji I hear in the background

  • @Pardogad
    @Pardogad Год назад +2

    A secuel have never had more respect. One of the best movies.
    Ever.
    And this generation is not ready yet for understand.

  • @richvandervecken3954
    @richvandervecken3954 9 месяцев назад

    The fact that this movie was made to inspire questions about it's purpose rather than to appeal to as many people as possible is what will make it relevant for ever. I found it to be a very refreshing movie to watch.