Bye Etsy! Why I'm leaving Etsy :)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @karendurham2080
    @karendurham2080 3 года назад +414

    I'm so glad you exposed Etsy's practices. Someone needed to.

  • @Automedon2
    @Automedon2 3 года назад +697

    I remember the days when Etsy was for artists and craftsmen to sell their work. Now it's nothing but a free for all of Chinese sellers selling the same stuff they sell on Ebay for prices that no American can compete with.

    • @janet58
      @janet58 3 года назад +6

      That's mean!

    • @stephaniehowell8981
      @stephaniehowell8981 3 года назад +89

      @@janet58 it may be "mean"... But it's the truth. Truth hurts. And he's right. How can you compete with Chinese crap that they sell for half as much as your handmade stuff when most people are looking for cheap and not quality.

    • @janet58
      @janet58 3 года назад +1

      @@stephaniehowell8981 Wait, what did I say?

    • @janet58
      @janet58 3 года назад +2

      @@stephaniehowell8981 Wait what? I have no idea what you mean, and who is he? I might be having a blonde moment, because I don't know who he is. I just made a comment to Media girl, please explain.

    • @stephaniehowell8981
      @stephaniehowell8981 3 года назад +12

      @@janet58 my bad. Your "that's mean" comment was under Gathering No Moss comment. I thought the that's mean was directed to him. Sorry😁 etsy is mean though. I really don't think they care about the small people and age catering to overseas people who mass produce.

  • @janebrownell6828
    @janebrownell6828 3 года назад +522

    I understand many other artists are pulling out of Etsy. Sounds like they are extorting the sellers. Kudos to you for explaining it so well!

    • @icherishcrochetandknit309
      @icherishcrochetandknit309 3 года назад +15

      They are extorting the buyers as well.

    • @RachelDresslerLove
      @RachelDresslerLove 3 года назад +4

      Can you suggest a different platform. My Idea is not quite big enough for a website, yet. :)

    • @janebrownell6828
      @janebrownell6828 3 года назад

      @@RachelDresslerLove You need to reply to Mixed Media girl herself. I'm just one of her subscribers. Good luck.

    • @nauy
      @nauy 3 года назад +1

      Which platform are they moving to? They can’t all be making their own websites.

    • @beverlyfeldman3570
      @beverlyfeldman3570 3 месяца назад +1

      No one has anything good to say about Etsy. Good luck with your new venture. Thank you for this video.

  • @serenityrucker6719
    @serenityrucker6719 3 года назад +250

    I am so happy that I found this video. I've been trying to get on Etsy for a while now. I appreciate your honesty and keeping me from suffering through that type of business dealings. I wish you luck wherever you go.

    • @Lightning2.31
      @Lightning2.31 3 года назад +1

      O yes they reddiculous

    • @LtRee96se
      @LtRee96se 3 года назад +3

      Me, too. I'm so glad of this information. I was looking at opening a site there, but I already have a website. It makes zero sense to work with them if I'm just going to leave because of shipping. And thoughts on how to tell your customers how much shipping will be?

    • @mistyscott3277
      @mistyscott3277 3 года назад

      Have you heard of lexii

    • @atarbuck3452
      @atarbuck3452 3 года назад

      Tr

  • @sewgatormomm
    @sewgatormomm 3 года назад +244

    I’ve noticed a lot of people leaving Etsy, and now I understand why. I had no idea Etsy was so underhanded.

    • @janetpattison8474
      @janetpattison8474 3 года назад +23

      Etsy is now a big profit making corporation. The goal is to make the rich richer and they could care less about their customers or their members or shop owners.

    • @Lightning2.31
      @Lightning2.31 3 года назад +3

      O yes

    • @Wastelandman7000
      @Wastelandman7000 3 года назад

      Yes, and I came here from a video where the creator was getting bogus copyright strikes too. Some of the creators on there don't want competition.

  • @johnbubu8310
    @johnbubu8310 3 года назад +518

    Etsy is not what it used to be. It was born as a place for people who love crafts to get together and offer unique handmade products. It has succumbed to the hunger and greed for money and putting Etsy interests above the very same thing that made them different, their community. There is nothing unique about Etsy when you now have sellers selling Chinese shit as if it was their own. You have made the right decision! Good for you! ❤️

    • @BarbrajoanOriginals
      @BarbrajoanOriginals 3 года назад +17

      John you are right on all points. I was an original seller on Etsy in 2008 for about a year , then rejoined again on ‘14. Big, Big difference now. I’m getting ready to hang it up. Tallahassee Florida 🌴😎🌴

    • @sexyness777
      @sexyness777 3 года назад +32

      YES! This! I'm getting so frustrated when I see "handmade" items that are actually just drop-shipped from China

    • @johnbubu8310
      @johnbubu8310 3 года назад +27

      @@karminakarminae1939 I'm sorry to disappoint you but my phone has not been made in China nor I am claiming my phone is handmade but it has been made in China 😉

    • @gracejones2831
      @gracejones2831 3 года назад +38

      @@karminakarminae1939 He is not trying to sell his phone on Etsy! You ding bat!

    • @thetenthltr
      @thetenthltr 3 года назад +4

      @@gracejones2831 🤣🤣🤣

  • @eileenjake5603
    @eileenjake5603 3 года назад +143

    Not only that but they then redirect YOUR customers to other Etsy shops! Thank u for sharing.

    • @lalabelyaevskaya2278
      @lalabelyaevskaya2278 3 года назад +10

      yes! I found that disgusting

    • @christinesmith7838
      @christinesmith7838 3 года назад +8

      Etsy is only for Etsy. They do not care about their customers. I’m leaving too. It started so well but their totally opaque fees and charges are so hard to work out but the bottom line is they’re taking way too much. They then overtly point customers to other shops - pouring salt on expensively opened wounds!

    • @sandnseaweedart9627
      @sandnseaweedart9627 3 года назад +1

      Good point!

  • @beverlysager3658
    @beverlysager3658 3 года назад +150

    I cannot tell you how glad I am to have clicked on your video! I am currently working toward setting an Etsy store, and now I know that I need to re-think going that direction. Thank you, thank you!

    • @RachelDresslerLove
      @RachelDresslerLove 3 года назад +2

      Did you fond any solutions?

    • @LtRee96se
      @LtRee96se 3 года назад +1

      me, too

    • @Tru13589
      @Tru13589 3 года назад +1

      same

    • @lisamobley7173
      @lisamobley7173 3 года назад +5

      Same here. Im not sure why i clicked on this video but im glad I did.

    • @jojo-l7431
      @jojo-l7431 3 года назад

      Just posted these exact feelings.

  • @vagabond87
    @vagabond87 3 года назад +6

    I left for the same reasons. My last sold item was priced at 120$, after fees and shipping (I live in a small country + plus it shipped to literally the other side of the world) I had not quite 59$. That barely covered my materials and my many hours of work were basically free. Not worth it. You explained the issues with Etsy very well! Great video!

  • @LoveBugCassidy
    @LoveBugCassidy 3 года назад +8

    I’m so grateful for your willingness to share your decision and why. As a recent (within the last few years) buying customer to Etsy, I feel like the pricing (shipping to be exact) is too expensive, and that alone drove me away from more than one purchase thru their site. Because of that, as an artist, it has kept me from selling on their platform, and I didn’t even realize all of the underhanded business practices until your video. You just saved me a lot of time and any further thoughts about listing my creations with them. Thank you again for the information and sharing your thoughts. I look forward to seeing you new website, and I wish you nothing but great success!

  • @thatonedisneygirl2159
    @thatonedisneygirl2159 3 года назад +430

    I will 100% back this up. I sold so many items over Christmas. I was working myself to the bone. But I was so confused because at the end of it, I had basically no money to show for it. I was pissed.

    • @Kathieartcraftanddestash
      @Kathieartcraftanddestash 3 года назад +43

      same thing happened to me. I was so happy I made so many sales and ended up owing etsy 2.40 what? I quit them.

    • @sandrastaton19
      @sandrastaton19 3 года назад +48

      I thought extortion is illegal! Why does Etsy think they are so entitled to other people's hard-earned money? Shame on them!!

    • @emisode
      @emisode 3 года назад +43

      Two words that destroy everything: Pure Greed!

    • @Christine-777
      @Christine-777 3 года назад +2

      😲😟😔 Aaah! I'm so sorry!

    • @Christine-777
      @Christine-777 3 года назад +8

      @@Kathieartcraftanddestash 😳😳😲😔 That is horrible!! ! I'm so sorry!

  • @KanellaCiracoArt
    @KanellaCiracoArt 3 года назад +782

    well done girl! I dropped out of Etsy months and months ago... their fees and rules are ridiculous.

    • @cpuhalski5956
      @cpuhalski5956 3 года назад +65

      Same here Kanella. Sadly Etsy is not looking out for the customer or shop owner, just their bottom line which is shelfish greed, like all big corporations do.

    • @jennt688
      @jennt688 3 года назад +15

      Hi Kanella!
      Love watching your videos.
      I don't really want to start a you tube channel....so I don't know how to promote my work? FB doesn't seem to work for me....
      I really would like to sell some of my work!! 💞😊

    • @TraumaQueen65
      @TraumaQueen65 3 года назад +15

      @@jennt688 Try starting at markets in your local area

    • @jennt688
      @jennt688 3 года назад +15

      @@TraumaQueen65 I'm in Canada. We don't have any markets here because of Covid.
      And, unfortunately, I'm on Disability and I couldn't do it anyways....sigh.....
      But thank you for your feed back! I really appreciate it! 💞

    • @lindacondray7918
      @lindacondray7918 3 года назад +37

      I dropped out years ago when it switched from many items truly being handmade to buy and sell posing as handmade.

  • @Nope-xj4wk
    @Nope-xj4wk 3 года назад +66

    I agree with you 100% the fees are ridiculous and the “advertising” is a ripoff. This past Christmas season was my last on there. You work so hard to create things and they take advantage.

  • @tamarapeeples8984
    @tamarapeeples8984 3 года назад +164

    This explains why everything on Etsy is SO expensive.

    • @shersartwork
      @shersartwork 3 года назад +6

      It's crazy I sell on Etsy and do ok in one of my shops. I most of the time do not shop on etsy because the prices are toooo high. I do not jack my prices myself, but some sellers go way over board

    • @paulinehunt4069
      @paulinehunt4069 3 года назад +8

      Agree. Too expensive. I rarely shop etsy for this reason. I respect the artist's.

    • @susandavenport1569
      @susandavenport1569 3 года назад +2

      @@paulinehunt4069 I am curious what you think is too expensive? At Peacock Proud Design, I don't even ask the hourly payment that it would take to design an item. If you compare prices in some catalogs, mine are way more affordable as they are each one-of-a -kind, or no more expensive than others mass produced in other catalogs. Help me understand. Also in my curiosity, you respect the artist's what?

    • @sashamoore9691
      @sashamoore9691 2 года назад +2

      Yeah. Too DAMN expensive!!!

  • @oliviavixx2973
    @oliviavixx2973 3 года назад +19

    This is exactly why I'm building my own site right now. I was opted in to their paid ads and had no idea, I got a HUGE order and almost cried I was so excited. But then I saw the percent they took for the ads... plus their fees... plus I had free shipping enabled... I made pennies on hundreds of dollars after material cost
    They also let people abuse the report feature and the response I got was you have to have whomever submitted the report rescind it. Too many report strikes on your account means they close your shop and I've read about more than a few shops being closed because competitors did exactly this to them.

    • @Flymeonthebreeze
      @Flymeonthebreeze Год назад

      WOW! I’m happy I read your post. I sell on the other e-commerce sites, eBay, Mercari, Poshmark. I planned once I was in a stronger selling income position, to start selling on Etsy. I can finally afford the 20 cents listing fee. Now that I have found out how they scr** you on fees, forget it!!

  • @marlenetrainor8086
    @marlenetrainor8086 3 года назад +184

    MMG I was thinking about opening an Etsy site a few months ago. I was doing some research, and found many negatives. Thanks for bringing these problems to people's attention! On a side note, your hair looks FAB!💖 edit. Who in the world would thumb down this video! Smh

    • @MixedMediaGirl
      @MixedMediaGirl  3 года назад +11

      Awww thanks. A friend did it for a photo shoot, lol.

    • @vanessacee4154
      @vanessacee4154 3 года назад +16

      Same here, Marlene. I get the impression that Etsy’s clinging to an antiquated business model that relies on the flawed assumption that artists need them to provide a business & (sort of) marketing platform. They underestimate how creative and business savvy artists and sellers have become in recent years. MMG - looking forward to your website launch! And, definitely smashing hair! 😀

    • @BarnQuiltsbyMountainVisions
      @BarnQuiltsbyMountainVisions 3 года назад +9

      The people at Esty. 🥴

    • @amethyst1826
      @amethyst1826 3 года назад +1

      @@BarnQuiltsbyMountainVisions
      You got that right!!!
      And fervent Etsy fans!

    • @cherieallen9508
      @cherieallen9508 3 года назад +2

      Who? Lol..someone that works for Etsy .🤣

  • @rynkydynk7362
    @rynkydynk7362 3 года назад +45

    Finally reached a point where I believe my pieces are good enough to sell. Trying to figure out which way to begin this chapter. This video was perfectly informative and helpful, thank you so much!!

  • @blbl4685
    @blbl4685 3 года назад +148

    All those practices are just wrong!! They should be ashamed....... We got you! I hope everything goes really smooth for you. You have earned some serious smooth!

    • @kaybrown8493
      @kaybrown8493 3 года назад +9

      Thank you for this information. I won't be using them now

    • @kaistockman6443
      @kaistockman6443 3 года назад +9

      I think it’s because they now have shareholders so they are not going to care what sellers think. They need to make more money every year for the shareholders so they keep finding ways to get more money from sellers. 😢

    • @icherishcrochetandknit309
      @icherishcrochetandknit309 3 года назад +3

      @@kaistockman6443 it is like all big corps, they start out as a small mom and pop and then greed takes over.

  • @TheeOwlQueen
    @TheeOwlQueen 3 года назад +31

    Thank you so much for this review. I'm glad to see someone shed some light on the truth of how Etsy truly treats their shop owners. I sold long ago on Etsy and started back up. I was selling digital downloads for $32 and when I seen how much I was paid in the end $23 I was like what? It's a digital download it takes one second and it's my hard work and you took $9? It's absolutely ridiculous.

    • @brendamorales3366
      @brendamorales3366 2 года назад +1

      Yes but they have the traffic. Me too I'm building my store outside etsy. And selling digital allow me to afford more projects outside

  • @susieinthecountry4434
    @susieinthecountry4434 3 года назад +197

    I am having the same feelings about Pinterest, way too much advertising and ads. I mainly use it to organize ideas and patterns but as for anything else, just too much junk on it.

    • @sandrastaton19
      @sandrastaton19 3 года назад +8

      I agree!

    • @irenesutherland7081
      @irenesutherland7081 3 года назад +16

      Never ever like Pinterest. It was alway a chore just accessing it 😧

    • @uggggggghhhhh
      @uggggggghhhhh 3 года назад +20

      greedy companies ruining their own platforms

    • @Angelaius
      @Angelaius 3 года назад +3

      I hate how they allow to upload photos of artifacts without any info. Where it is rn. When it was created. Museum data numbers. Fucking hate it. Unorganized garbage.

    • @janealexander1378
      @janealexander1378 3 года назад +2

      I don't trust Pinterest. On 3 occasions I've had emails from Pinterest that a friend or relative wants me to... In all cases the friend or relative knew nothing about it.

  • @LilianGuerrero
    @LilianGuerrero 3 года назад +138

    Thank you. I needed to hear this. I spent a couple hours earlier today on my Etsy account and the numbers just didn't make sense. There is no transparency in the transaction account itemization. I was so confused I had to step away it literally gave me a headache. Ty!

    • @susandavenport1569
      @susandavenport1569 3 года назад +1

      My husband is a stats guy & both of our heads were spinning over the alleged transparency. What we realized was that they were throwing in banking fees to transfer money to you, but not really calling them that. When those things take seconds these days, or are maybe automatic, why are the fees relatively high? (Rhetorical question)

  • @G.G.8GG
    @G.G.8GG 3 года назад +154

    And while they're taking that big chunk without your agreement, they are gaslighting you about how it's such a wonderful plan for you.

  • @janmoline
    @janmoline 3 года назад +153

    I don't yet have an Etsy shop, so yay, cross that off my list. Honestly, as a customer, I'm leaving Etsy!!! I have no need to support a company like that. I'll use skill share to create my website!!

    • @20karisan
      @20karisan 3 года назад +15

      there are many small shops and family businesses that live on Etsy. Look on Etsy and contact them through other platforms

    • @angiep5216
      @angiep5216 3 года назад +12

      You can send an email to the seller and buy the product privately.

    • @goldenstar9379
      @goldenstar9379 3 года назад +3

      Am planning to do a business and don’t have a platform to sell when eventually starting .I was thinking of getting myself a website but have no idea how to go about it and don’t even know to sell on there .

    • @MrsMoore1
      @MrsMoore1 3 года назад +1

      Golden Star, I LOVE Shopify! Give them a try! Very user-friendly.

  • @caz4523
    @caz4523 3 года назад +164

    Once Etsy started trading in the stock market that is when things changed.. They have to make a profit to appease their stockholders.

    • @janetpattison8474
      @janetpattison8474 3 года назад +13

      Exactly! Greed greed and more greed for corporate America.

    • @wallemon06
      @wallemon06 3 года назад +3

      Bingo.

    • @user-mv9tt4st9k
      @user-mv9tt4st9k 3 года назад +7

      Corporate America paid me a handsome salary in exchange for hard work and talent for decades.
      Capitalism is what allows artists and craftspeople to go from hand to mouth to actually earning a living--it does not have to be done through corporate America, it merely needs to be done using corporate America's guidelines. Supply and demand is Econ 101. 🙄

    • @octpod3923
      @octpod3923 3 года назад

      @@user-mv9tt4st9k dude hahha I know

    • @Bob-The-Guy
      @Bob-The-Guy 3 года назад +1

      Once a company goes public, it is under pressure from the Wall Street to meet quarterly targets. Bean counters take over, not crafters and artist.

  • @hedvigjenson4902
    @hedvigjenson4902 3 года назад +5

    As an Etsy shopper, I truly appreciate your explanation. Around 2019, I started seeing many of my favorite shops going away and I had no idea why. Thank you for your honesty and transparency of what this experience was like for you. No wonder I’ve been seeing prices get so high! 🙁

  • @ellinmariee
    @ellinmariee 3 года назад +35

    Thanks for sharing.
    I have been dragging my feet on setting up an Etsy store, now I see why.
    Good luck on your website.

  • @marsharn53
    @marsharn53 3 года назад +60

    I left Etsy 2019 for the exact same reasons. The free shipping was a disaster. Etsy cares nothing about their sellers. Thanks for sharing.

    • @lyndaholloway5469
      @lyndaholloway5469 3 года назад +3

      Are not their sellers the ones who they make money from? I would think that they would want to take care of them. Hum!

    • @susandavenport1569
      @susandavenport1569 3 года назад

      @@lyndaholloway5469 You'd think so.

  • @eleanorrouxel122
    @eleanorrouxel122 3 года назад +93

    I have heard this before when ETSY was passing the shipping costs to the customer. That's when I stopped buying from ETSY. You go girl for taking a stand.

    • @lalune59
      @lalune59 3 года назад +11

      Customers should be charged postage. if not go to shops

    • @carolhearn8157
      @carolhearn8157 3 года назад +6

      In fairness, the "free shipping" frenzy started with Amazon and spread to virtually every online site. Ebay also pushes "free" shipping and charges commission on shipping. Sellers hate it, but have no choice if they want to sell on the platform.

    • @lalune59
      @lalune59 3 года назад +3

      @@carolhearn8157 that’s not so. Sellers incorporate shipping in sales when offer free posting. Maybe not as much as fully. Look at the ones selling stuff and their prices. They aren’t cheaper than shops and sometimes more. I actually offer free posting without putting on my sales. It’s a selling point. eBay dont make us. Before eBay charged fees on postage sellers used to put all it was worth on postage. It was a way of not paying fees. I didn’t agree so eBay eventually had enough as other sellers kept reporting it as well

    • @carolhearn8157
      @carolhearn8157 3 года назад +2

      @@lalune59 Not sure what you disagree with about my post. What you said is just about identical to what I said ????

    • @carolhearn8157
      @carolhearn8157 3 года назад +3

      @@lalune59 When you start a comment with "That's not so", it sounds like disagreement to me! That's why I responded that I couldn't tell what you disagreed with.

  • @cindybrook0520
    @cindybrook0520 3 года назад +7

    I had an Etsy and found the whole process joyless, so I closed my shop. Thanks for sharing.

  • @caz4523
    @caz4523 3 года назад +90

    When they forced the ad fees I shut my store..Good for you..

    • @Lightning2.31
      @Lightning2.31 3 года назад +1

      I did well reall well until people got jealous of the amount of sale in a few weeks tons of customers other shops owners started to hate

    • @MrsMoore1
      @MrsMoore1 3 года назад +3

      Say more about this... trying to figure out if another shop really had the power to complain and shut down my shop? They NEVER gave me a reason why my shop was closed! At least tell me what went wrong. I didn’t use copyrighted material. Some stores actually stole MY designs!

    • @MrsMoore1
      @MrsMoore1 3 года назад

      @adorable sweetie

  • @kelliquinn1342
    @kelliquinn1342 3 года назад +86

    That's one heck of a story I'll tell you what a shame. Love for money truly is the root of all evil. Shame on Etsy

  • @debbydragich2636
    @debbydragich2636 3 года назад +40

    They have no shame...Have to stand up not down...Thank You for putting it out there!!!!

  • @jenleavey
    @jenleavey 3 года назад +33

    Good for you for standing up for yourself, your artwork and all other artists! 👏👏👏

  • @nishicree9910
    @nishicree9910 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for your transparency and overall integrity. I was turned off from Etsy when I obtained info that suggested Etsy requires vendors to pay a fee if the vendor doesn't sell a specified amount in a year or so. But, your video has definitely affirmed the rightness of my decision to not sell there.

  • @ancienttech4603
    @ancienttech4603 3 года назад +82

    The reason that Etsy takes a cut from shipping is that people will list an item for 1 cent and then put the cost into the shipping. This should be considered unethical and grounds for closing the account, but instead they play games with ethical accounts.
    The whole advertising thing is just ridiculous. I applaud you for closing your account!

    • @user-mv9tt4st9k
      @user-mv9tt4st9k 3 года назад +3

      Ebay sellers do exactly the same thing so that they can offer free shipping, cover the shipping, or guarantee they will get what they believe an item is worth.
      The trouble is these sales platforms are so large that it is impossible to catch everyone.

    • @PrairiePrimitives
      @PrairiePrimitives 3 года назад +2

      Etsy also does it because their 2 major competitors, eBay & Amazon, do the same thing. And yes, that's why eBay started the trend. $.01 items and $4.99 shipping (back in the day).

    • @Natalia-bg8do
      @Natalia-bg8do 2 года назад +1

      @@PrairiePrimitives which again is basically a Chinese thing. Chinese mass production of cheap products is behind all of this.

    • @PrairiePrimitives
      @PrairiePrimitives 2 года назад

      @@Natalia-bg8do It's not always a "Chinese" thing. U S.-based sellers did it too in the early days of eBay.

    • @CjJohns1776
      @CjJohns1776 2 года назад

      @@Natalia-bg8do to add insult to injury, America's small sellers are funding Chinese shipping. Ever wonder why it costs US $10-$15 to ship or return a package to China, when the exact shipping route reversed costs then $2 ? It's in a "trade" agreement President Obama & USPS made with China. Our exorbitant fees fund their deficit. No, they won't admit it directly, it's buried in the word salad, but that's EXACTLY what happened. People think Democrats & unions are for "workers" when in reality they're pathological LIARS who USE EVERY Demographic THEY CLAIM TO CARE ABOUT, FOR MONEY in THEIR POCKET, VOTES & POWER.

  • @carmenmendiola5163
    @carmenmendiola5163 3 года назад +135

    This explains why I pay $5 shipping on something that cost $4 and weighs less than 1lb

    • @janetpattison8474
      @janetpattison8474 3 года назад +16

      Shipping is incredibly expensive no matter who the shipper is. I was going to mail a pair of sandals to a family member and the weight was slightly over a pound and the fee was $17. So I said no thanks I’ll return the shoes and send her cash.

    • @brokefun7545
      @brokefun7545 3 года назад

      Shipping is 3.50$ don’t believe the lies LOL

    • @shersartwork
      @shersartwork 3 года назад +2

      Don't forget handling charges! If it costs $4 to ship there is a handling charge too! I charge $1 on small things but if it costs $10 and $up for all packaging and the cost of gas to the ups, fed-ex where ever. Yes I could add that to the price of the product, but for tax purposes I add it to the shipping and handling.

    • @fattoria_di_bastoni
      @fattoria_di_bastoni 3 года назад +2

      The PO is to blame as well.

    • @mclark2288
      @mclark2288 3 года назад +5

      A seller, especially a small shop, has to factor in their other costs like boxes, tape, filler, labels, etc. If you don't, you end up with no profit.

  • @RC-hg9dw
    @RC-hg9dw 3 года назад +27

    That sounds terrible that they get away with that!😞 Good for you for moving on to share your art with others!💜 Thanks for making us aware of this for us people that have not yet tried Etsy!

  • @lindsayslovelycreations320
    @lindsayslovelycreations320 3 года назад +38

    I appreciate you making this video and informing others because I had no clue about half of what you said!

  • @tiakitchens804
    @tiakitchens804 3 года назад

    I am so glad you done this video! I was thinking of joining to list my items. I was just talking to my sister about this last night. I am so thankful this came up in my recommendations to watch and actually surprised with the way I have binge watched your videos I had not yet seen this video. Thank you for not only explaining the reasons but you were also very professional.

  • @matriarchfacilitator
    @matriarchfacilitator 3 года назад +12

    I am so sorry to hear this happened to you..Thank you for helping to spare others. Also blessings on your new shop!!🙏💛💛

  • @Stephanie_Hancock
    @Stephanie_Hancock 3 года назад +17

    From what I've heard, you are not the only shop owner that feels that way. Good for you!

  • @loriap
    @loriap 3 года назад +22

    I can't tell you how thankful I am to you for making this video! My husband has been bugging me to start selling on there. I did look into it but wasn't willing to pay what they wanted. So glad I waited.. I totally agree with you on this! What I don't get is how, legally, they can make it so you are tied to them with no way out. That is crazy. They need to be shut down!
    I look forward to seeing your new website!!
    Thank you again! So much!!

  • @maddieadams75
    @maddieadams75 3 года назад +49

    I was an original OG on Etsy, never had any success with my art, I tried for 4 yrs, off and on, only sales were good at holidays, I’ve been selling really well on eBay for 16 yrs. Good to hear Etsy hasn’t changed, they cater to their elite sellers.
    Good luck to you, your followers will purchase where you ask them too.

    • @just_call_me_desi
      @just_call_me_desi 3 года назад +2

      how do you sell on ebay though? Isn't ebay more like a yardsale type thing? Don't people want everything at the lowest prices possible?

    • @maddieadams75
      @maddieadams75 3 года назад +7

      @@just_call_me_desi eBay is easier to search, do some reach on there, like using ...... artist, ooak, painting, sculptures etc. whatever medium you use. I starting selling art on eBay 2004, I also want to sell none art items, I created a second account just for that. I didn’t want to cheapen my art with “ garage sale” . If people want your art they’ll pay for it. I always choose the bid option. Ask for what you are willing to except and if it goes higher it’s a win. I’ve sold sculptures almost every country. Right now I’m on a hiatus for a bit. Tragedy hit and I needed time away.

    • @serieelisedanielle9958
      @serieelisedanielle9958 3 года назад +1

      they cater to black owned shops only!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @invisiblue3212
      @invisiblue3212 3 года назад +2

      I never thought to try ebay. Thanks for the heads up, stay crafty 💖

    • @PrairiePrimitives
      @PrairiePrimitives 3 года назад +1

      @@maddieadams75 I totally agree with what you said about people being willing to pay for art they want! I make primitive dolls (maybe not art to everyone, but whatever!). I've sold several $100+ dolls on eBay in recent weeks. Can't remember the last time I sold a doll for that much on Etsy (I have, but it's been several YEARS!). eBay's fees are higher but I take that into account when I set my prices.

  • @TheSwissChalet
    @TheSwissChalet 3 года назад +25

    The “free shipping” is a psychological ploy to get people to shop online more. If they think there are no shipping charges, then it causes the customer to perceive it’s the same as “real life, non-online” shopping, which of course it isn’t.

  • @lesliebooth2833
    @lesliebooth2833 3 года назад +3

    I just stumbled across this video, never seen your stuff before, but good for you!! I am so glad to hear you are standing up to Etsy for impinging! You go girl!!!

  • @christinaharmon8778
    @christinaharmon8778 3 года назад +5

    I left Etsy completely in 2019 for a lot of reasons. I had been on the platform from the very beginning. I felt the same way about the Free Shipping. The paid advertising really ticked me off! When I did the numbers...it didn't make sense to stay. My sales were never huge, but if I had been a big seller...it would have really taken a huge bite. I agree with you on every point where Etsy is concerned. Best of luck with your new website! I've never been happier having my own website. I've learned a ton...and I'm happy knowing that all the work I put in, pays off and I get to keep my profits!

  • @bonniegentry4306
    @bonniegentry4306 3 года назад +141

    I see a class action lawsuit coming against Etsy.. My daughter quit selling quite awhile ago due to their shenanigans.

    • @icherishcrochetandknit309
      @icherishcrochetandknit309 3 года назад +12

      The way they add shipping into the ptmrice is illegal when it comes to acconting audits. Who is going to hild Etsy accountable for this?

    • @elizabethm4618
      @elizabethm4618 3 года назад +9

      @@icherishcrochetandknit309 Ebay has been doing it for years and years with no repercussions.

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 3 года назад +2

      @@icherishcrochetandknit309 Free shipping is not free really. It's ONLY free til the post Office has to pick it up. Whoever negotiated THAT deal should be held liable as the post office is OUR money they are dealing with. Ain't nothing FREE.

    • @barbrawhite1239
      @barbrawhite1239 3 года назад +1

      @@icherishcrochetandknit309 What FASB or accounting rule does that violate. I would like to know. The shipping is through Shipsaver who uses USPS but the international orders are repackaged in several postal districts.

    • @icherishcrochetandknit309
      @icherishcrochetandknit309 3 года назад

      @@barbrawhite1239 sometimes shipping is taxable in some states and isn't in others. It needs to be separated out. And if you add shipping costs into the price of the item it isn't really free.

  • @claudiamann7111
    @claudiamann7111 3 года назад +61

    Thank you so much for letting everyone know this information. It sure sounds criminal. I'm so glad you are doing your own website and I hope lots of other people leave Etsy. Great job!!!

  • @rainbuni0727
    @rainbuni0727 3 года назад

    I planned to open up an Etsy shop this month. I was doing some research & am so glad that I stumbled onto your video. I know that this is your experience with the site, but you are so detailed about their shadyness that I 100% believe you. Thanks for helping me to not waste my time & dime. Who needs that headache?

  • @TheScarletSorceress
    @TheScarletSorceress 3 года назад +5

    I hear you! Anything I sold there put me at a loss, so I designed my own website. Thank you for sharing your experience and good luck on your brave new journey; I am happy for you!

  • @jesuisbanan
    @jesuisbanan 3 года назад +24

    Honestly, I am very glad to have found this. Thanks for the advice.

  • @amyspencer5431
    @amyspencer5431 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for letting us know. I’ve been considering it...I’m glad that you shared your experience. Hang in there. You are loved!💕

  • @kathybaffone7851
    @kathybaffone7851 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for the information. You have just saved me a lot of grief! I appreciate your calm demeanor and explanations. I'm off to see your work.

  • @paulinereyna782
    @paulinereyna782 3 года назад

    I'm glad you put this up here a couple of months ago. I just am now watching this, I was thinking about putting my crochet projects on there. I'm glad I ran into this video thank you.

  • @lisaschmitt5813
    @lisaschmitt5813 2 года назад

    I am starting to think about selling my products and I am really glad that I watched your video and heard what the "real truth" is behind the scenes. Thank you so much for your honesty. I am sure everyone appreciates it.

  • @andrewturnbull4842
    @andrewturnbull4842 3 года назад +326

    Thumbs Downs are from Etsy employees because you spilled there rude plan

    • @MixedMediaGirl
      @MixedMediaGirl  3 года назад +22

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @HollyFischerArt
      @HollyFischerArt 3 года назад +22

      Really. Whom else would really not appreciate this message? Anyone else would benefit from it.

    • @helenarjad1006
      @helenarjad1006 3 года назад +4

      Andrew Turnbull...SIT ON YOUR THUMBS .. Never DISHONESTY stay hidden for long. ENJOY YOUR THUMBS..

    • @herrweiss2580
      @herrweiss2580 3 года назад +1

      their*

    • @loligney1976
      @loligney1976 3 года назад +13

      @@helenarjad1006 Andrew Turnbull was being facetious! He was simply saying that the @$$holes that gave a thumbs down were probably the employees at Etsy!

  • @angiek841
    @angiek841 3 года назад +39

    This is soooooo helpful as I was considering Etsy.

  • @sherryl2005
    @sherryl2005 3 года назад +25

    Wow. That is unbelievable. I bet there will be a class action suit soon. Thank you for explaining all this.

  • @64Bogota
    @64Bogota 3 года назад +4

    It's been a nightmare for me and my jewelry design, they have taken more money than the cost of my pieces. I thought I was doing something wrong, thank you for confirming what I thought is going on. Now that I'll be doing more artwork I will work on a website as well. Done with Etsy by tomorrow.

  • @Ryn1
    @Ryn1 3 года назад +6

    Good for you! I left them shortly after they started the forced free shipping. I believed it was going to get worse, and it has. Congratulations!

  • @mdipeace
    @mdipeace 3 года назад +26

    I was so excited about Etsy when it first started, but was over it years ago when the whole thing about re-sellers came to light and Etsy was totally fine with it. I haven't visited Etsy in years, I would rather buy direct from the artist.

    • @prosperity.
      @prosperity. 3 года назад +5

      Yup. I remember it was for all handmade Items only! I should have stayed that way.

    • @starrlara2599
      @starrlara2599 3 года назад

      This was EBay too. It used to be small and friendly with people selling stuff when they would normally have a garage sale instead. Now they have huge sellers that can buy vintage and new things at wholesale prices, because they can buy shipping containers whether of stuff.
      I don’t like this if Etsy is doing it too.

    • @starrlara2599
      @starrlara2599 3 года назад

      It is really a shady thing to do.

    • @ASMRyouVEGANyet
      @ASMRyouVEGANyet 3 года назад

      But you can still ask if they made it themselves

  • @VickiJo64
    @VickiJo64 3 года назад +8

    I’ve been thinking of leaving for awhile now..thanks for the info. I also went and looked at your art work and all I can say is WOW!

  • @ArtByJulieE
    @ArtByJulieE 3 года назад +26

    Wow! Thank you for bringing this to our attention! I'm going to look into building my own website today! Thanks again Marcy🥰💕

  • @mikebernard1385
    @mikebernard1385 3 года назад +2

    Wow. THANK YOU so much for this video. In 2017 I lost my home in the Northern California fires. My studio and all it’s contents gone.
    I’ve been building up inventory in my new home studio so that I felt I had a good number of items to set up a sizable and profitable store on Etsy. I’m happy to say I now have over 3200 items of mid to high end jewelry that I planned to sell via Etsy.
    Your video is definitely a wake up call. I now know that other platforms are where I’ll be listing the results of my passion.

  • @joaniedorsey6116
    @joaniedorsey6116 3 года назад +9

    Thank you for sharing my exact feelings! When my listings expired during the pandemic, I had no desire to continue with Etsy. It had become less and less about the artist and only for the benefit of Etsy.

  • @elizabethcrane7639
    @elizabethcrane7639 3 года назад +21

    Good for you! A lot of people don’t read the fine print. I’m glad you’re going out on your own. Bet of luck.

  • @TheLeonDarko
    @TheLeonDarko 3 года назад +18

    I'm so glad you made this because I JUST started learning about places to sell some of my art and whatnots... I've been doing research about Etsy as well.. it seems more and more like it's shady and more taking than supportive

  • @shirleynunya1093
    @shirleynunya1093 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for the lowdown on Etsy. I'm new and just beginning so now I know to cross Etsy off my to do list. Your Info is much appreciated and so well presented.

  • @msplayful4209
    @msplayful4209 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for sharing this. I had already almost decided to leave etsy after a year and a half of no sales...and you just sealed the deal. Going to leave for sure now. I don't agree with their tactics and I don't care if I never sell another piece, as long as I don't give them anything. Good luck in the future, I think you're awesome!

  • @irie0for0all
    @irie0for0all 2 года назад

    Great to see someone fight back, WELL DONE, GOOD LUCK

  • @christines2451
    @christines2451 3 года назад +5

    Thank you so much for providing this video. There are many new artists that feel it is their only option. I am new to this as well but not in a hurry to sell. But I have talked to many on fb that think there is only the listing fee cost. They did not look into the percentages on sales etc. I have looked at purchasing on Etsy before and have found some of the shipping costs quite expensive so I choose not to buy. I think them forcing you to allow them to market (to your customers) I so wrong. You rock for standing up for what u deserve and sharing it with others. Wishing you all the best with your new website.

  • @christinemcgovern2849
    @christinemcgovern2849 3 года назад +5

    I am so glad I watched your video. A lot of people I know have been pushing me to sell my paintings on Etsy and I had a bad feeling about it, so I never joined. You have reinforced my feeling. I knew there were fees that I really wasn't willing to pay, but I had no idea how "criminal" they were. Now they remind me of a used car dealer! Thank you so much for making this video MMG!! xoxo

  • @redballoonie
    @redballoonie 3 года назад +20

    Totally respect your decision to leave Etsy! And great that you are speaking out regarding your experience with Etsy and your decision. BTW, as a new Acrylic Pour Artist..I subscribe to your channel and have learned so much from your creativity! Thank you.

  • @sherrybrown8010
    @sherrybrown8010 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the heads-up! You helped prevent me from making a huge mistake! I was about to sign up with them but now after seeing your video and hearing from many others. Thank you

  • @McJc09
    @McJc09 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for posting this.. I just started with etsy, so great info, i will definitely keep my eyes wide open!

  • @katelynwoodworth9989
    @katelynwoodworth9989 3 года назад +20

    That's so good to know. You popped up on my RUclips feed with this video. I'll never use etsy now. Thank you!

  • @kathythompson5800
    @kathythompson5800 3 года назад +12

    I admire you for both sticking with Etsy for so long and publicly exposing their shady practices. I had an Etsy shop way before they started letting manufacturing plants in China sell on the site. I never sold a thing through them, so I went somewhere else and started actually selling my items. Congratulations on your new website!

    • @ajennyforyourthoughtscincy
      @ajennyforyourthoughtscincy 3 года назад

      I just opened my store 3 days ago and they closed it the same day. The more I learn about them the less I want to fight to work with them. Can I ask you where you went to sell your items? I worked so hard and don’t want to just give it up altogether!

    • @RachelDresslerLove
      @RachelDresslerLove 3 года назад

      I am following and All Ears as to where you took your Business? Very Interested!! :)

    • @marybrookshire8924
      @marybrookshire8924 3 года назад

      @@ajennyforyourthoughtscincy did they give you a reason for closing?
      /

  • @ladydivacustomdesigns6431
    @ladydivacustomdesigns6431 3 года назад +6

    Congratulations! Good for you. I agree with your decision, but I'm justified starting, literally like July 2020. Still getting my shop going. Good luck!!!

    • @midorialexandros
      @midorialexandros 3 года назад

      100%! She built her business on Etsy, she outgrew it. I really, really hope to be in her position one day. Without a large enough cliental, it's just not feasible, and it really, really hurts me to see how many people are in these comments saying they will never shop on Etsy because of this video. It's really unfair to the hundreds of legitimate small businesses that are on Etsy and deserve the opportunity to earn a user's business.

  • @idiosyncraticcreations9083
    @idiosyncraticcreations9083 3 года назад +1

    100% correct love. I left them alone and have been greatful ever since then!! I suggest everyone get their own website!!

  • @andreavictoriaparadiso47
    @andreavictoriaparadiso47 3 года назад +1

    Thank you. I tried it in 2014. The day I opened my store...after tons of work to set it up...they changed their rules big time. I was not able to do anything again with my art til this year and thinking of how to go about it. I thought of trying again but my instincts tell me not to. I also know many other artists that have pulled out of it and many disgruntled on FB and other platforms. I've been in retail for over 40 years and know all the tricks of how the large percentage of businesses steal millions from millions of their customers. I don't know what the answer is but thank you and others for validating my feelings. Great Good Fortune to you in your future endeavors!

  • @annielaperriere4572
    @annielaperriere4572 3 года назад +5

    Don’t know if it’s the same in Canada but it’s good to know.
    Thanks and good luck with the new sale platform👍🏻

  • @sandyramsthaler4924
    @sandyramsthaler4924 3 года назад +10

    Good for you MMG! I will be watching for the new link to your products on the description page of your wonderful videos.

  • @kellielister8175
    @kellielister8175 3 года назад +5

    Everything I’ve been thinking since the changes but couldn’t put it so gracefully!! Well done girl👍👍👍

  • @txtrace
    @txtrace 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I view it as watching out for all of us. I was thinking of going with etsy but definitely won't now.

  • @marlenealberty6728
    @marlenealberty6728 3 года назад

    Thank you for explaining all this. i was contemplating signing up on Etsy but you have helped me decide to create my own website. Thank you and lots of luck with your new adventure!

  • @emmanuellegrosjean4847
    @emmanuellegrosjean4847 3 года назад +5

    Thank you very much for sharing your experience with Etsy. It’s unacceptable the way they do business. Your video is for sure going to be helpful to many of us pouring artists!

  • @HeatherRenee619
    @HeatherRenee619 3 года назад +7

    *sigh* I have been considering dropping Etsy, too. I'm so glad you put this video out there - very helpful. ♥

  • @irishtinker6867
    @irishtinker6867 3 года назад +54

    So glad to hear this about Etsy. Was planning on putting things on there but not now. It will be the last place that I by from also. This world is heading the wrong way. Good luck!

  • @roxanneloubalidio7509
    @roxanneloubalidio7509 3 года назад +1

    This video is very informative. I love learning all the cons way ahead before setting up a shop including the pros. This video has everything I needed to know as a beginner. :) Thank you!

  • @rasmapludums-dunn9809
    @rasmapludums-dunn9809 3 года назад

    Happy for you. Thanks for the insight about Etsy. Kudos to you for your honesty and integrity

  • @maramakesjournals2319
    @maramakesjournals2319 3 года назад +9

    Sure enough, there are Mixed Media Girl ads right here right now. Who knew? Thanks for letting us know about this.

  • @mauikarenann2727
    @mauikarenann2727 3 года назад +7

    Thank you thank you for the info. I have been thinking about leaving Esty too. This confirms my thoughts. Thank you again

  • @susan1098
    @susan1098 3 года назад +14

    I’m so happy I found this video. I was contemplating about opening a store on Etsy. It’s like Etsy wants more than 1/2 of what your selling. No so cool. It sounds like a ripoff from Etsy. I will find another avenue to sell my products. Thank you so much on covering all these ridiculous fees by Etsy. Loved this content.

    • @RachelDresslerLove
      @RachelDresslerLove 3 года назад +1

      Soo Grateful for this knowledge!! I was just about to jump in, feet first! Any viable solutions without a website?

  • @madeleinemazie6645
    @madeleinemazie6645 3 года назад

    I’m glad I spotted your video. Was going to do Etsy. I did some research on Etsy it seemed easy enough to set up, but then started reading the terms. I have to agree with you on the advertising without a way to opt out and charging shipping cost onto your customers by offering free shipping but sneaking the cost onto them anyway, it is dishonest. If you take pride in your craft and the customer truly wants it they will be willing to pay for shipping. I found a quaint market in North Carolina just to dip my toes in the selling world and I have to say I was thrilled that so many people complimented my multiple talents, lol. I set up a small table and some displays around in a 10 x 10 spot. my first 2 hours I sold a few items and earned $110. What I’m getting to is this, your stand up honesty and commitment to your customers is admirable! It is vitally important that you stay true to yourself. Personally, I’m not out to make a quick buck or work hard for someone else to take my money. If that is the case I would go back to a 9 to 5, earning hardly nothing and continue to be pushed around and told what to do. Stay true and I want to know how you’re making out. Good luck and just maybe you can show this old girl how to make it out there in the selling world.

  • @lindak.bridges9195
    @lindak.bridges9195 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your comments and decision with your audience. I too, have been deliberating whether to just work on my own website and drop Etsy as my art sales platform. All the best for your new endeavor and I'll be watching for updates!

  • @gildaolsen2888
    @gildaolsen2888 3 года назад +6

    Thank you so much for this simple briefing. The information is invaluable. Good decision! Go girl! 💪🦸

  • @d.aardent9382
    @d.aardent9382 3 года назад +6

    Glad i caught this suggested to watch, i had thought on working with etsy years ago when i was thinking on where i was going to sell crafted stuff but i never get time to work on my art projects, so i never really investigated it seriously, but good to know all this info! Thanks!
    I will find a different way of selling my creations.
    I went looking around in Carmel,IN. arts district to see about who or what or where there was art shops or galleries that was interested in selling all sorts of things but so far havent seen too much places.
    Only the fact that a lot of interior decor places are around there would probably help me in that a lot of my ideas/stuff is sort of like artistic furniture that have sort of dual purpose.

  • @skeletalremains3860
    @skeletalremains3860 3 года назад +9

    You are not the first person to go and I'm sure you're not the last! Thank you for exposing their dishonest practices! I will not so there anymore.

  • @bibi9699
    @bibi9699 3 года назад +1

    I just recently started selling on Etsy and I’ve notice how much money it’s not for me. It goes to shipping and what you said. I’m am working on a Shopify site. I already mouth a domain and y pray to God it works. Thanks for your video and honesty

  • @mesquitetejas8328
    @mesquitetejas8328 3 года назад

    Thank you so very much for this info on ETsY ....It is very hard to find honest people. And because of your honesty ..I pray you are blessed with many many