My big question is, does it work well on a Mac? Their Apple Silicon machines have a long history of not properly interfacing with 20GB/s devices, generally only handshaking at either 10GB/s or 40GB/s and nothing in between.
My T7 on my M1 MBA only goes at 600MB/s which is USB 3.2 Gen 1 @ ~5Gbps. But in my cousin’s game laptop with a proper USB 3.2 Gen 2 it sustain 1GB/s or ~10Gbps. I expect this T9 sadly going on the same route. We’ll sadly have to wait until someone comes with external USB 4.0 to make that MacBooks ports useful.
My product manager brain has a crazy reasoning for the lack of a thunderbolt port here, and I'm a prime suspect. I just purchased the T9. The SanDisk G40 I wanted to use for my iPhone 15 Pro - ProRes 4K60 would not connect, claiming in the error message, "Thunderbolt accessories are not supported on this iPhone". First of all, I'm using a thunderbolt cable to connect the G40 and it worked fine with the Crucial X6, I just had terrible frame drops using that SSD for longer periods of time (more than 10min) and reflected the transfer speeds with big files on my Mac which prompted me to find a faster drive. I'm hearing online that iPhones can't send enough power certain drives, possibly thunderbolt drives. As much as I wanna believe this could be solved with a software update on Apple or SanDisks side. I fear Samsung knew about the power limitations of the iPhone 15 Pro way ahead of time and planned to opt-out thunderbolt ports so they sold more units once the new iPhone 15 released. Meaning Apple may not have plans on supporting those thunderbolt connections or higher power requirements, which would suck. I was super excited to use that drive. It's a stretch, but the market for iPhone is massive and average people like me never really considered doing all this research on SSDs until Apple talked about it. Funny enough, I thought we were moving further away from needing physical storage of things but here we are. Like I said, this is a wild claim, up for discussion!
@nascompares $440 for the Samsung T9 and $290 for the Crucial X10. Both 4TB SSD are USB 3.2 Gen2x2. Why is the the Samsung $150 more? Additionally the X10 has 100MB/s faster read speed.
Brand new. The regular price will be lower but they’ll get to say 20% cheaper than this “original price” at Amazon to make people think they are part of an offer…
With regards to the interface and data transfer speeds, how well does the T9 deal with temperature during sustained transfers, and what difference - if any - does the lower speed make? (i.e. if USB4 was implemented, would the drive throttle, or require a cooling fan?)
I personally believe No Tech company is going to release a perfect product when they can release a few version in between that people will still buy and will make the just a bit more richer...
Nice Good Info 👍🏻 But is there another External SSD with higher speeds ? Time 15:15 Whats the SSD Speed on S23 Ultra/Fold5 & iPhone 15 pro max ? Is it same as T9 or higher/lower ? Time 24:23 Thats the reason i asked the above Question
Look at the size of your TB drive, is triple de size. That is because it generates more heat, that's probably why samsung don't use the 40gb interface, it is really difficult to make it work in a tiny case like the one from t9.
Heads up guys. I bought 2 2tb T-7's @$400 and they both failed in about 3 mos! Samsung would not recover the drives. They replaced both of them with the newer ones which are now half the price I originally spent. BTW: There were no S.M.A.R.T. indications leading to a failure. Obviously I will not use these drives. I now just use ext. NVME's in an enclosure. DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG!!! $800 in the hole - Thanx Robbie 👍
I looked up the price on Amazon, and Samsung's official store has the price or size capacity wrong. I see a 1TB T9 for $439 ready for pre-order. Hopefully they fix that.
When I worked in a college years ago the first gen usb 3 ugdn 2 nits from Samsung were notorious for the interface connectors to break leaving students panicking after they just bundled it in there bag without removing the connector I picked up a usb3 thunderbolt unit which also suffered the same I ended up opening it to find just a blue drive inside which cost for the capacity almost double the price since then I just get a 3rd party enclosures grab some thermal grizzly graphine sheets and a decent drive on sale time since then I’m a happy camper and will never go back to full cost external
I have a Sandisk Pro-G40 sitting in a box which I am too worried to use with mission critical data. No idea if it’s impacted by Sandisks recent issues....
Samsung deciding to go with usb3.2 seems very strange to me. I went with a tb4. enclosure and a 2tb m.2 nvme from wd. Let’s me upgrade later on when I need more storage. Total cost was around 350 usd.
So i understand you saying - You can "Assemble" a faster Thunderbolt 4 based drive which is much much faster than this samung and cheap too ? Please, can you tellme more about speeds.... Thx (Note: I believe this samsung drive at 20Gbps & yours TB4 Drive will also be at 20Gbps = same speed)
ASUS makes a USB C 3.2 2x1 enclosure which is certified for MIL-STD-810H drop resistance and IP68. Went for a custom made route as a Mac user. Not going to buy a $100 Thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure.
I respect that, I hope that you can find value in my response. There could be multiple videos of same product but focusing on different aspect. So people can watch what they need and user satisfaction will hopefully go up@@nascompares
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My big question is, does it work well on a Mac? Their Apple Silicon machines have a long history of not properly interfacing with 20GB/s devices, generally only handshaking at either 10GB/s or 40GB/s and nothing in between.
My T7 on my M1 MBA only goes at 600MB/s which is USB 3.2 Gen 1 @ ~5Gbps. But in my cousin’s game laptop with a proper USB 3.2 Gen 2 it sustain 1GB/s or ~10Gbps. I expect this T9 sadly going on the same route. We’ll sadly have to wait until someone comes with external USB 4.0 to make that MacBooks ports useful.
My X5 has read/write speeds of 2,800/2,300 MB/s and handles 40Gb/s on my M1-PRO. No idea why they discontinued them. :(
What about LaCie rugged ssd pro…
It’s Thunderbolt. 💪
Sorry to hear about the cold. Get well soon.
My product manager brain has a crazy reasoning for the lack of a thunderbolt port here, and I'm a prime suspect. I just purchased the T9. The SanDisk G40 I wanted to use for my iPhone 15 Pro - ProRes 4K60 would not connect, claiming in the error message, "Thunderbolt accessories are not supported on this iPhone". First of all, I'm using a thunderbolt cable to connect the G40 and it worked fine with the Crucial X6, I just had terrible frame drops using that SSD for longer periods of time (more than 10min) and reflected the transfer speeds with big files on my Mac which prompted me to find a faster drive. I'm hearing online that iPhones can't send enough power certain drives, possibly thunderbolt drives.
As much as I wanna believe this could be solved with a software update on Apple or SanDisks side. I fear Samsung knew about the power limitations of the iPhone 15 Pro way ahead of time and planned to opt-out thunderbolt ports so they sold more units once the new iPhone 15 released. Meaning Apple may not have plans on supporting those thunderbolt connections or higher power requirements, which would suck. I was super excited to use that drive.
It's a stretch, but the market for iPhone is massive and average people like me never really considered doing all this research on SSDs until Apple talked about it. Funny enough, I thought we were moving further away from needing physical storage of things but here we are.
Like I said, this is a wild claim, up for discussion!
Any idea when 8TB T9 will be coming out?
@nascompares $440 for the Samsung T9 and $290 for the Crucial X10. Both 4TB SSD are USB 3.2 Gen2x2. Why is the the Samsung $150 more? Additionally the X10 has 100MB/s faster read speed.
Brand new. The regular price will be lower but they’ll get to say 20% cheaper than this “original price” at Amazon to make people think they are part of an offer…
With regards to the interface and data transfer speeds, how well does the T9 deal with temperature during sustained transfers, and what difference - if any - does the lower speed make? (i.e. if USB4 was implemented, would the drive throttle, or require a cooling fan?)
I personally believe No Tech company is going to release a perfect product when they can release a few version in between that people will still buy and will make the just a bit more richer...
Nice Good Info 👍🏻
But is there another External SSD with higher speeds ?
Time 15:15 Whats the SSD Speed on S23 Ultra/Fold5 & iPhone 15 pro max ?
Is it same as T9 or higher/lower ?
Time 24:23 Thats the reason i asked the above Question
My X5 has read/write speeds of 2,800/2,300 MB/s and handles 40Gb/s on my M1-PRO. No idea why they discontinued them. :(
Did you get a chance to use T9 on a Mac or MacBook Pro ?
Any new rumours of a DS1824+ release date?
It's just too close now for me to pull the plug on a 1821+ unless they significantly drop in price.
Look at the size of your TB drive, is triple de size. That is because it generates more heat, that's probably why samsung don't use the 40gb interface, it is really difficult to make it work in a tiny case like the one from t9.
Heads up guys. I bought 2 2tb T-7's @$400 and they both failed in about 3 mos! Samsung would not recover the drives. They replaced both of them with the newer ones which are now half the price I originally spent. BTW: There were no S.M.A.R.T. indications leading to a failure. Obviously I will not use these drives. I now just use ext. NVME's in an enclosure. DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG!!! $800 in the hole - Thanx Robbie 👍
There phones are garbage
SanDisk extreme pro and WD seems to fail as well and have lawsuits against them.
I am confused now, which one to buy?
Your best bet is to buy an NVME drive (4TB < $180 & put in a compact enclosure @ $25. Both faster & cheaper.@@shoebamersyed3192
I looked up the price on Amazon, and Samsung's official store has the price or size capacity wrong. I see a 1TB T9 for $439 ready for pre-order. Hopefully they fix that.
When I worked in a college years ago the first gen usb 3 ugdn 2 nits from Samsung were notorious for the interface connectors to break leaving students panicking after they just bundled it in there bag without removing the connector I picked up a usb3 thunderbolt unit which also suffered the same I ended up opening it to find just a blue drive inside which cost for the capacity almost double the price since then I just get a 3rd party enclosures grab some thermal grizzly graphine sheets and a decent drive on sale time since then I’m a happy camper and will never go back to full cost external
I have a Sandisk Pro-G40 sitting in a box which I am too worried to use with mission critical data. No idea if it’s impacted by Sandisks recent issues....
Hi
I will use this on iPhone 15 pro max the 4 TB version.
Do you think the speed will be ok
Thanks for the great explanation
Also not to confuse with the Samsung K9 Thunder...
New to portable ssd's here...can you transfer files back and forth between mobile and ssd??
Is the samsung evo 870 good enough for nas ? Or streaming
What’s the name of the special cable you need to get the max speed?
Does Samsung T9 work with iPhone and android phones
Yes, definitely!
Did they just skip the T8????
I think that was supposed to be a TB3 drive...sigh...then the shortages happened
Well, they had T3, T5, T7… so the next one in the series is supposed to be T9.
Good to know, never got anything but the T7. Lol
Samsung deciding to go with usb3.2 seems very strange to me.
I went with a tb4. enclosure and a 2tb m.2 nvme from wd. Let’s me upgrade later on when I need more storage. Total cost was around 350 usd.
So i understand you saying - You can "Assemble" a faster Thunderbolt 4 based drive which is much much faster than this samung and cheap too ? Please, can you tellme more about speeds.... Thx (Note: I believe this samsung drive at 20Gbps & yours TB4 Drive will also be at 20Gbps = same speed)
pc gaming?
the hinderances is probably why they named it the t9 and not the t10.
No that’s a box
ASUS makes a USB C 3.2 2x1 enclosure which is certified for MIL-STD-810H drop resistance and IP68. Went for a custom made route as a Mac user. Not going to buy a $100 Thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure.
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I hate that your videos are so long all the time, leading to skipping a lot
Sorry to hear that bud. Unfortunately, that's the house/my style of delivery.
I respect that, I hope that you can find value in my response. There could be multiple videos of same product but focusing on different aspect. So people can watch what they need and user satisfaction will hopefully go up@@nascompares
just watch at 1.5x speed. thats what I do
@@nascompares
I like the details 👌🏻
I watch most youtube in fast forward
Don't get anything from SAMSUNG. BAD BAD BAD Customer services.