Do the upgrades work significantly better? I can get good welds with small chain links etc couldn't get a earing post to stay for the life of me in stock setup.
yes it makes a huge difference. the thin wire and circuit board trace can not physically handle the current. slapdashmakers mod with another capacitor works also. something that makes these stand apart from the expensive ones is the cheapies dont rettract the needle at the moment it flashes. if you could figure out a retraction device theyd be even better
@@m3sca1 hey thanks for the reply and I appreciate the videos there is like nothing on the web about these. Did u just use an ordinary soldering iron to solder the new joints. I gotta try something I was bout ready to just put the orion pulse arc welder on the credit card when this machine showed me what it was lacking. Gonna get some thicker gauge wires and solder them . If u do come up with a device that can retract ud be able to sell em to all the people comment in ur videos. Including me lol
Hi, just got me the same arc welder. Problem with it seems to me is that you need to wait a few seconds between the single shots so the capacitors have enough time to collect enough energy. The upgrade with thicker wire is a good idea, but still you need to wait for the capacitors. Are you using Argon gas as well?
The argon gas is setup but i hardly use it. I was gonna make a solenoid gas pulse delivery for it too...so I don't use up a little bottle running gas while I am messing around setting up the shots. Techniques are everything with this machine. A professional machine reftracts the tip at shot time to give that perfect air gap...you have to estimate that gap. If you lay some silver wire under the gap, it will punch down as a bead. If you gap is too big....balls of metal just bounce around and solver goes everywhere. I am never in such a hurry to be trying to zap it so regularly that I am waiting for the caps to fill. Slapdashmaker put a bigger cap in his...worth a look too.
Oh and i use a wet brass brush to clean up the oxide. Sometimes a dry brush if it is light. You need to clean away any oxide before another shot. Dod you get the one with gas shroud handle? I drilled a hole in the back to bring the gas to the tip.
yeah all those crappy little wires and crimp joins must have been wasting heaps of energy, I also notice there is room on the board for another capacitor. There is a real sweet spot for the distance to the job and how the arc fires. Too close and it won't do much, get the distance just right and there is great flash and pop and movement of metal. Too far back and it vapourises rather than moves. Yes Argon next! Those retracting tips would mitigate that issue! I wonder if I can push the pulse through a kicker that moves the electrode back with simple magnet and coil...
So the gas bottle I added and the tube goes in the back of a handpiece not shown in this video. If you watch the un boxing of this you will see the yellow handle which has a shroud and the gas can be plumbed in the back with an appropriate size drill and some flexible glue.
Seems that way. I don't even know why there's letters in some words...language is a doozy. The "Tower of Babble" really screwed things up, but hey I guess it makes life more interesting. God bless. I wish I knew how to mess with electronics as you do.
I just bought this piece of crap today.... I don't know if I should do this mod or send it back for a refund.... Can you give me any updates on the use of this welder, can I tac weld say 1mm wire to sheet and other wires, does it really work better? Thanks mate... (the best I can get out of this machine is butt join 0.7mm wire. What a waist of money!!
there is much gain from upgrading the circuit board traces...and thicker wire to the electrodes...also the connection the tweezers and adding more caps also. i have seen another modded machine also. he added a larger cap than it had. lookup slapdashmaker
Hello good day, I want to ask if this machine can be regulated amperage, for example if I want to weld very thin silver handles as of. 2 mm thickness of the wire
Yo just uploaded a before-and-after with this mod and some capacitors. (but this one already has more capacitance then my base model) Check it out if you want.
Because cheaper equals more money in. They don't care if the product doesn't work. So long as they sold something that almost quacks and looks a bit like a duck.
@@m3sca1 big talk but I see that cheap auto focus you didn't bother to edit out. Just kidding ya, great video. Seriously though it seems like they put more money/effort into making it look like a duck then quack like one. Also hear these things burn out really easy if you lean on the pedal to long, I wonder if it's any of the components or just the cheap wiring.
Another fellow who purchased one modded it with a much bigger cap. There are all sorts of tricks i have seen out of china. 2 screws to hold a board down, when there are 4 screw holes. Using double sided tape instead of glue. Using recycled components, outright electrical fire hazards from not actually using an earth tag...non complaint plugs...defo buyer beware. I only bought it cos i new I could upgrade it.
hello there I upgrade my new DX808 80 A jewelry spark welder and the left potentiometer broken inside so it s a WXD3-13-2W 100Rohm 1802K numbers on it so I have no idea which other I have to buy to replace because I can t find the some number just different ones please let me know thank s
hi, do you have a diagram or the values of r25, r22 and d8 (the 3 pieces closer to the fuse) mine burned and i cant see colors or values
i can take the lid off later today and have a look for you
@@m3sca1 it would help me a lot
ok i have taken a photo for you, will post on the community tab
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Do the upgrades work significantly better? I can get good welds with small chain links etc couldn't get a earing post to stay for the life of me in stock setup.
yes it makes a huge difference. the thin wire and circuit board trace can not physically handle the current. slapdashmakers mod with another capacitor works also. something that makes these stand apart from the expensive ones is the cheapies dont rettract the needle at the moment it flashes. if you could figure out a retraction device theyd be even better
@@m3sca1 hey thanks for the reply and I appreciate the videos there is like nothing on the web about these. Did u just use an ordinary soldering iron to solder the new joints. I gotta try something I was bout ready to just put the orion pulse arc welder on the credit card when this machine showed me what it was lacking. Gonna get some thicker gauge wires and solder them . If u do come up with a device that can retract ud be able to sell em to all the people comment in ur videos. Including me lol
@@grillzbytroy8870 i used a heavy soldering iron, 80w jobby
Hi, just got me the same arc welder. Problem with it seems to me is that you need to wait a few seconds between the single shots so the capacitors have enough time to collect enough energy.
The upgrade with thicker wire is a good idea, but still you need to wait for the capacitors. Are you using Argon gas as well?
The argon gas is setup but i hardly use it. I was gonna make a solenoid gas pulse delivery for it too...so I don't use up a little bottle running gas while I am messing around setting up the shots. Techniques are everything with this machine. A professional machine reftracts the tip at shot time to give that perfect air gap...you have to estimate that gap. If you lay some silver wire under the gap, it will punch down as a bead. If you gap is too big....balls of metal just bounce around and solver goes everywhere. I am never in such a hurry to be trying to zap it so regularly that I am waiting for the caps to fill. Slapdashmaker put a bigger cap in his...worth a look too.
Oh and i use a wet brass brush to clean up the oxide. Sometimes a dry brush if it is light. You need to clean away any oxide before another shot. Dod you get the one with gas shroud handle? I drilled a hole in the back to bring the gas to the tip.
My spot welder need to upgrade like this too...now can deliver only 10amp at maximum adjustable regulator
This apparatus melts metal or tungsten sticks to it, then you can see the place of soldering?
no it melts the parent metal
that's more than a welder, that's a vaporizer
cool.. looks much better than what I thought it would be like...now all you need is argon...
yeah all those crappy little wires and crimp joins must have been wasting heaps of energy, I also notice there is room on the board for another capacitor. There is a real sweet spot for the distance to the job and how the arc fires. Too close and it won't do much, get the distance just right and there is great flash and pop and movement of metal. Too far back and it vapourises rather than moves. Yes Argon next! Those retracting tips would mitigate that issue! I wonder if I can push the pulse through a kicker that moves the electrode back with simple magnet and coil...
see if you can put something in to vary the charge on the cap.. that way you can adjust the power setting.
@@electro1622 thats what the dials on the front do...it's at full power now so anywhere south of that power is what i have.
cool... mine also has pulse time adjustment in the millisecond range...add that and you can weld anything with it
@@electro1622 okaaaay... which one do you have?
Do you run it without any selfmade modifications - changing cables ect??
Wait so where does the gas input come from?
So the gas bottle I added and the tube goes in the back of a handpiece not shown in this video. If you watch the un boxing of this you will see the yellow handle which has a shroud and the gas can be plumbed in the back with an appropriate size drill and some flexible glue.
* SALDER lol
@@hourglasssox sodder? 😛
@@m3sca1
Seems that way. I don't even know why there's letters in some words...language is a doozy. The "Tower of Babble" really screwed things up, but hey I guess it makes life more interesting. God bless. I wish I knew how to mess with electronics as you do.
I just bought this piece of crap today.... I don't know if I should do this mod or send it back for a refund.... Can you give me any updates on the use of this welder, can I tac weld say 1mm wire to sheet and other wires, does it really work better? Thanks mate... (the best I can get out of this machine is butt join 0.7mm wire. What a waist of money!!
there is much gain from upgrading the circuit board traces...and thicker wire to the electrodes...also the connection the tweezers and adding more caps also. i have seen another modded machine also. he added a larger cap than it had. lookup slapdashmaker
Hello good day, I want to ask if this machine can be regulated amperage, for example if I want to weld very thin silver handles as of. 2 mm thickness of the wire
As it comes from china it is made for joining small chain links and fittings. It would not be hot enough for 2mm without upgrades as I show.
it looks like its blowing out too much metal now
Yo just uploaded a before-and-after with this mod and some capacitors. (but this one already has more capacitance then my base model)
Check it out if you want.
Good work! Thanks for sharing.
My advice is
DO NOT BUY THIS JUNK
They offered me $20.00 to keep it
$288.00 is what i paid
It going back to them on the next thing smokin
So this old cheap wires were acting like resistors, LOL
Wonder why they didn't just solder in some decent wire to begin with
Because cheaper equals more money in. They don't care if the product doesn't work. So long as they sold something that almost quacks and looks a bit like a duck.
@@m3sca1 big talk but I see that cheap auto focus you didn't bother to edit out. Just kidding ya, great video.
Seriously though it seems like they put more money/effort into making it look like a duck then quack like one.
Also hear these things burn out really easy if you lean on the pedal to long, I wonder if it's any of the components or just the cheap wiring.
Another fellow who purchased one modded it with a much bigger cap. There are all sorts of tricks i have seen out of china. 2 screws to hold a board down, when there are 4 screw holes. Using double sided tape instead of glue. Using recycled components, outright electrical fire hazards from not actually using an earth tag...non complaint plugs...defo buyer beware. I only bought it cos i new I could upgrade it.
hello there I upgrade my new DX808 80 A jewelry spark welder and the left potentiometer broken inside so it s a WXD3-13-2W 100Rohm 1802K numbers on it so I have no idea which other I have to buy to replace because I can t find the some number just different ones please let me know thank s
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