Her baby was adopted and now two years later she wants custody of the child? She had many times prior to get the child this is no excuse. The child has already bonded with the adopted parents so she is not in a position to take that child away.
She was also living with them, so really an adoption shouldn’t have even been on the table. Her ex-stepfather is practically the baby’s grandfather anyway. I feel like we aren’t getting the full story here. My bet is SHE was the one who bought up adoption to begin with because she still wanted to be a kid with no responsibilities.
@@belle.m the fact is she had how many years to file this claim or seek custody? There is no doubt she willingly signed those papers and Dr. Phil proved that based on her own statements at that time. Also, she was eventually kicked out of the house so there was a period of time she did not see her child. She’s also irresponsible because she has no stable means to care for this child. Based on the evidence the child should not leave grandma’s care until she can prove through court ordered supervised visits with the child and have a stable income to support that child otherwise she has no legal ground to stand on.
She doesn’t have mental memory issues. She’s mental, but she remembers everything. She is only upset bc they shut her out and cut her off from their support and resources. I bet none of this would be going on if they were still supporting her. This isn’t even about the baby girl, or a relationship with the baby girl.
This is so unfair for that child. I’m adopted. It took my birth father over 3 years to sign the papers. I was with my adopted family from 2 days old on. My parents lived in fear for 3 years that they would lose me. You don’t deserve this child.
@@jilliangrannon1939 no he wasn’t. He just wouldn’t sign the papers. He made it perfectly clear he didn’t want me before I was born. It was a very dysfunctional family. 11 children were in either foster homes or adopted out. The rest were neglected. I have met most of my biological siblings. (Years ago). I also met my biological mother. I felt sorry for her. I’m grateful she gave me birth but my parents gave me life.
She can't just change her mind. Sorry, its over. If I was the adoptive parents I would have a restraining order, you don't want to confuse the child further, stay far away. Have fun raising your new child. Goodbye.
First of all you had two years you could have got some type of certificate , degree job,got a place to stay got your own car ask for forgiveness,some type of visitation and been humble.
What is best for the toddler? To take it away from the only parents she has ever known is ludicrous and traumatizing. The child isn’t in any danger. For the biological mom to interact with her child, presently, she should be given occasional supervised visits only. The biological mom seems suspicious to me and her speech/body language are highly suspect that she is telling the truth. Bring on the lie detector test!
I surely hope you find healing and apréciate that you were fortunate to have had a home and a family instead or being bounced from place to place with strangers.
Tell me why do you struggle for being adopted? My baby girl will be 17 years old next week and we adopted her and she knows how much we love her. It only means that we wanted her.
‘Too bad, so sad’. I considered adoption for less than a day when I was young and pregnant. I knew if I had the strength to go through with it I would regret it immensely and immediately. My utmost respect to birth moms who try to give their kids a better life that they know they cannot provide. But it’s cruel wanting to take a child away from its parents, she is not thinking in the best interest of the child but instead her wants and feelings. No no no!
Dr. Phil asked her if she would be able to take care of & provide for the first baby at the point of this airing, & her answer was no. How in the world was she going to be able to with this second one?! Sunny was great here - the baby was no longer hers, & all rights were gone. Closed adoption. I wouldn’t have let this toxic person near my child, ever. I’m the adoptive Mother of two daughters, now in their late twenties. Once those documents were signed, they were ours & we were the only parents.
I had my first son when I was 18. He is now 36. It was very hard but I became a good mother and had help from my family. She's having another baby and she said she has no way to take care of this new one. I think she really needs help. I hope she gets it for her and the babys sake.
3:42 She lieing CLEARLY!! She thinks she can change her mind after 2 years ,that Baby doesn't know her!!! 10:38 You don't need a Husband to raise children!
I was given to my adoptive parents when I was 2 days old. There wasn't any issue regarding giving me up. My birth mother was only 11 years old. My adoptive parents had to prove they were financially stable. They had to pass mental and physical tests. Drug tests and criminal background searches. Finally, they had to deal with surprise visits from social workers. They took reports regarding my condition. They would make notes on how tidy the home was. How much food was available. Who lived in the house. Even the cat and dog my parents had were tested to see if they were aggressive! Adoptive parents go through so much to be parents. I don't think it's too much to require birth parents to have some reasonable standards to have before they have a baby
I've always said this. Anyone can be a biological parent, but adoptive parents have to jump through so many hoops to prove they're fit enough to be parents. I'm glad you ended up with adoptive parents who love and care for you. If you don't mind me asking, do you have any contact at all with your birth mother?
Sad that she is obviously lying, says I dont remember writing those posts, but then says she write those posts to justify the adoption. Needs to just be honest
A person cannot effectively parent a young child without a reasonable memory. A convenient “loss of memory” definitely precludes any possibility of being a safe, nurturing parenting.
Adoption is such an emotional experience. How many people are adopted and just feel a hole in their life because they don’t know their birth parents? Teen Mom shows how birth parents feel that hole, too. I don’t know what the solution is and I can’t imagine being in that situation. That poor child grows up with this conflict all around.
I think this woman needs therapy at the very least. Suppressing any memory of what happened doesn’t seem like the healthiest coping mechanism. These accusations she is making are pretty serious and have real consequences. She has no legal recourse by now. I get she was scared and in a bad situation. She obviously is suffering. Although I can feel empathy, she still has no way to support this child even if she gets her back. Is she suffering from postpartum with the “she doesn’t feel like mine”? As an adult, we all have to take accountability for our actions. This woman isn’t saying she chose wrong and has regret, but it’s her own fault. She’s saying they took advantage of her. Like when they supported her? When they celebrated Christmas? She chose to leave on her own and got beaten because she made a choice. She doesn’t remember anything. What drugs was she taking? It sure seems like selective memory. That baby is in the best place, because this woman can’t take care of herself. She obviously live like a teenager and refuses to grow up.
I don't think she has a hole to fill. She probably has pockets she wants to fill, and if she is this unstable even now, she is probably not going to keep the new baby for very long either if she doesn't get her life straight.
Yes, 24 hours "cooling off" period, brutal phrase to describe a baby being adopted. I don't know what is best for this baby but the mother needs counselling
Kristen needs a good lawyer. It's possible that the adoptive parents took advantage of her during a vulnerable time when she was dependent on them. If they love the child enough "to be willing to give their lives for her" why deprive the child of contact with her birth mother. She could even have supervised visits elsewhere. In some places, a child cannot be adopted without the signature of the birth father and his showing up on the scene could possibly be a challenge to the legality of the adoption, I think. The adoptive parents here were equally bad mouthing the birth mom and it's possible they contributed to her lack of confidence in being a mother in the first place. It is not all about who has the most money. Kristen could improve her financial status and get good psychological and legal help.
@@nimue4325 she should have had the lawyer when she was pregnant decided to adopt out. Do you know how cruel it is to rip that poor kid away from the only people who have been her parents? Now this dipstick has another kid. Is she married? How was a 17-18 year old going to raise a kid alone? Now she has two. She probably thinks her parents are going to raise it. When teens get knocked up out of wedlock they are better off adopting the child. I was 28 when my husband abandoned me with a new baby and a five year old. I was an adult and it was the most difficult thing I ever had to do. But I raised them well in a Christian home without mommy’s help or welfare. I had a respectable job, but it was very difficult. Kids deserve two parents. What is a 17 year old going to do? Did she and her mother ever hear of contraception? There are many options in that department.
I can’t imagine her mom is happy, not having her grandchild, but also having her grandchild in the arms of the man that cheated and the woman that helped him
Love it "you can remember us threatening you months ago but you cant remember signing papers", that is classed as an A class Buuuurrrrrnnn lol, is she really that stupid lol
Wow who else just caught Sunny Hostel from the view told her she can't get her child back. I realize this was years ago and usually I respect Dr. Phil but this girl probably should have got an attorney not a TV show. Wow is all I keep thinking. Where is her mother? Why would she trust a cheating stepfather?
No court is going to unwind this closed adoption when she has multiple signatures which constitutes a legal contract. Plus even the idea of turning over the child to her is beyond selfish. Being a parent requires so much consistently putting your own needs after your child's. This young mother to be doesn't seem to get that yet and refises to take any responsibilty for anything. Same thing with baby #2? Troubling situation.
It took me FIVE YEARS to fully grasp the reality of my abortion. Five years for it to really hit me full force, five years for my motherly instinct to surface, five years to truly mourn and regret my decision. This girl might remember the things she said, and the things she said might have felt true in the moment, but I’m telling you, sometimes it takes years to truly regret your decision to give up your baby in any way. This girl shouldn’t have come on Dr. Phil. She needs real help AWAY from the people that adopted her baby. These people aren’t as innocent as they’re saying, this girl was struggling severely and they didn’t know how to help her or deal with her so they made her the villain. They SHOULD have left her at the hospital. Bringing her back was a bad idea. She would have found her own way. She needs to remove herself from the situation and start bettering herself as a person so that she can be a good mom someday. She’s young, she was young at the time of the adoption and sometimes the journey from girl to woman is rocky and we do things that we regret. Moving forward, I think it would be best for her to remove herself from this situation. Go live, grow and get real therapy and start being honest with herself first so that she can be honest with others.
@@kamikazecassidyshe may not of known where he was or even who he was. She didn’t know where the father of the child she was carrying was so it wouldn’t surprise me if the same thing was the case with the older child
I used to do notary service at the hospital where I used to work. I made a personal decision to not notarized for a sale of an item as a house, car, transfer of bank account and all adoptions. All of these situations people have such strong emotions and agendas. I got in trouble several times but later the hospital adopted my exception to notary services.
She came back looking black and blue and adopted mom didn't want the household to see her, that's s so unrealistic 🙄 she told the girl to stay in the bedroom so the other kids couldn't see her be all bruised up, why the f*** not?? WTF what is she not supposed to do go use the bathroom go eat I don't think so!! 🙄 The adopted mom said that she didn't want to explain to the other kids why she looked that way why the f*** not just say the truth something horrible happened end of story that's it or you just sayi the truth she got beaten up!! Why didn't she call the police to report abuse instead the adopted mom tells her to go into the bedroom and don't come out!!
They need homes for unwed mothers like they had in the old days. Young women are forced to give their babies away or abort because there is no other option if family won’t help.
So many of those homes treated the mothers like dirt ! And they guilted them and more or less forced them to give the baby up. In many homes they were not allowed to tell the other moms even their real name. I have no personal knowledge of these places,but there is lots of valid anecdotal information. Unfortunately,today many young women who are not capable of parenting are having babies , and keeping them .What is the answer ???Wish I knew !
Actually we need young women to not be told that sexual promiscuity is inconsequential. The messaging over the past several decades has created more unsafe homes and situations for babies and children.
So you believe young women should be abused and tormented. If you really knew what happened in these homes you would keep them closed. Just look into the baby laundry deaths! Women were treated like dirt for life after entering these homes!
If she truly loved her daughter and was doing this for her daughters sake, she wouldn’t be demanding to completely remove her from everything and everyone she knows since birth. That is solely for the mother’s benefit. Your daughter dosnt know you! Taking her in the manner she is requesting would feel like a kidnapping to your child. I’m sorry the consequences to your actions arnt something easy live with but you’re still gonna have to live with them!
This trick is completely mentally ill.The second baby needs to go to the couple as well.Because this one wouldn't be surprising if she ended up in jail
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Sorry, but how in the world are you going to be able to look after a toddler, plus a new baby on your own? The fact that she didn’t learn the first time she got pregnant, then went out and did it again shows she is unstable and can’t make good decisions. There was no mention of the father, or even if she was married and had a stable living environment and money to support even her new baby. Her guilt has just made her reckless, and she shouldn’t even be allowed to raise her new baby when it comes, let alone her first one who has that stability.
She's a liar she says she doesn't remember signing papers but yet she can say they started out wanting temporary custody and then full blown custody yeah she's lying.
My brother and his wife adopted a baby 20 years ago with a family member on his wife’s side of the family the adoptive mom is mommy and the birth mother is the birth mom no drama No misunderstandings everyone knows their place in the situation. The birth mother was very young at the time 15 I believe and later she graduated with honors from high school and went on to college . When my nephew was older they told him about the adoption and he said oh cool I’ve got 2 moms lol
Good thing she puts her personal business on FB to be used as evidence later. The posts imply that she was fighting with people on FB about her choice. Insanely immature and her poor second child is gonna have to deal with having her as a mother.
She can’t even lie right… 😂😂😂😂😂 Get yourself together. This is why you’re not a mom. It’s a blessing that her kid got adopted instead of staying with that trainwreck of a “mother”.
Where do these people get off assigning the most appalling motivations to people? They just rip people apart for their past mistakes while begging full immunity for their mistakes, thats different! Ug.
Very selective memory; just doesn't ring true. She is not credible. How is Kristen supporting herself now? Where is this baby's father? How is she going to care for this child?
Those stepparents are disgusting It is not their child. My daughter signed adoption papers and the judge reversed it bc she was under the influence of prescribed drugs. I nave had guardianship of 6 of my gc and always allowed visitation if the parents show an interest. I never wanted to adopt my gc bc I believe I am only there to stand in the gap until your parents mature and show responsibility. Too many young girls feel forced into adoption and then they regret it bc they didn't have any support from family or resources to make a good decision
I think at the time of the adoption she would have been under an extreme amount of stress, which could easily result in memory loss. We've all heard of 'baby brain'.
It's very odd how everything she says starts with 'the way i remember it' she doesn't seem 'all there'? like it just feels like it's her go to automatic response when things aren't going in her favour to gain sympathy
I believe the adopted mother did manipulate her into giving her the baby. They should have waited to see if she could handle the baby first before adoption was suggested. To take this baby right away was wrong They did not try to help her
This young woman definitely should not get the child back after 2 years. She is unhinged imo. It’s very convenient how she apparently remembers some things but not others
How are you gonna claim someone else is so mentally unstable that they need to be medicated and have a child taken from them when you don’t even remember giving your child up for adoption in the first place… Make it make sense cuz that in no ways adds up That and if I was drugged and forced to sign over my child it wouldn’t take me 2 days let alone 2 YEARS to bring that to the attention of law enforcement or the courts. So girl what do you mean?!
@@donnasouthward3338 i wonder why no one is asking why they didn’t opt to help this girl get stable and be a mom instead of this adoption situation. It seems mean, but it was a done deal with the court. She sounds crazy because this is crazy
Somebody else pointed it out someone else said there was a biological father involved than the child could not be adopted without his say-so so what happened to him?? You can't adopt a child out without the biological father having some input because right now if he didn't say so then he can go and say I never agreed to have the child adopted out and he could automatically get the child back so we need to know what happened to him!!
Has this girl been checked for multiple personalities? If she doesn't remember doing something, but there's proof she did; that could be the reason, or she has a short term memory loss. If that's the case, she might be able to get her child back, with medical help.
Dr. Phil gave the adaptive parent to pass and didn’t let us know any of the horrific details that were shared on the screen. He also didn’t provide any help for this young mother and her baby on the way. At least none that we saw.
Leave that darling little baby girl with her adopted parents as they will probably provide a stable life for her. As I don't think this young girl will be able to give her the up bringing that these adopted parents can. Maybe they can make arrangements for the biological mother to have visits right later on. I was adopted as a baby and I had the best adopted parents ever who loved me unconditional. I did meet my biological mum and she said that she was so grateful for my adopted parents for giving me the life that she could've given me. All my darling parents have now gone to God's Kingdom❤
Bottom line she have them her baby that baby is loved and bonded with those parents!don't ruin the kid for her selfish whim!!she needs to move forward and when ba😮is old enough to ask for her them it should be on the child's terms with f and how she wants to be involved with bio mom
I don't know if there was a lawyer there to explain to her. What she was signing. What it FULLY meant. This I don't remember is NOT am excuse. Also her actions after. By going out and acting like she didn't have a child. Staying away for about a week? That shows me she could care less.
It looks like the woman who gave birth to the child claims that it was not an adoption for her, but just a form of baby day and night care. Now she ask to give her back the baby she left. If she understand it that way, she could ask for the child after she can prove that she is able to take good care of the child and also pay for baby care: the money that the foster parents invested in her child and also pay for their work (associated with baby care 24 hours a day for more than two years) - I can see it approximately $ 200 thousand dollars or even more.
Her baby was adopted and now two years later she wants custody of the child? She had many times prior to get the child this is no excuse. The child has already bonded with the adopted parents so she is not in a position to take that child away.
This child is 12 or almost 12 now. Wonder how they are all doing
She was also living with them, so really an adoption shouldn’t have even been on the table. Her ex-stepfather is practically the baby’s grandfather anyway. I feel like we aren’t getting the full story here. My bet is SHE was the one who bought up adoption to begin with because she still wanted to be a kid with no responsibilities.
She's clearly not thinking of the child's best interest at all 😢
@@belle.m the fact is she had how many years to file this claim or seek custody? There is no doubt she willingly signed those papers and Dr. Phil proved that based on her own statements at that time. Also, she was eventually kicked out of the house so there was a period of time she did not see her child. She’s also irresponsible because she has no stable means to care for this child. Based on the evidence the child should not leave grandma’s care until she can prove through court ordered supervised visits with the child and have a stable income to support that child otherwise she has no legal ground to stand on.
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“I remember little things” AKA I remember the things that are beneficial to me and just so happen to forget everything else
She probably realizes the amount of benefits she would collect with 2 children. I don't believe anything she says.
Omgsh, that's SUCH a great point, i didn't even think of that!! That's exactly what's going on
It's so easy to say I don't remember, I am amazed she remembers she has a child.
Selfish to not think of the baby’s welfare. She can’t provide for herself. She has mental memory issues. Imagine giving her a two year old?
She doesn’t have mental memory issues. She’s mental, but she remembers everything. She is only upset bc they shut her out and cut her off from their support and resources. I bet none of this would be going on if they were still supporting her. This isn’t even about the baby girl, or a relationship with the baby girl.
This is so unfair for that child. I’m adopted. It took my birth father over 3 years to sign the papers. I was with my adopted family from 2 days old on. My parents lived in fear for 3 years that they would lose me. You don’t deserve this child.
what a game player. This must have been horrible for your parents.
@@UncleDavesKitchen it was. I didn’t know until I was older. My parents were so relieved on that day.
Or he was fighting for 3 years and still lost.
@@jilliangrannon1939 no he wasn’t. He just wouldn’t sign the papers. He made it perfectly clear he didn’t want me before I was born. It was a very dysfunctional family. 11 children were in either foster homes or adopted out. The rest were neglected. I have met most of my biological siblings. (Years ago). I also met my biological mother. I felt sorry for her. I’m grateful she gave me birth but my parents gave me life.
@@susiekathryn8570 Thats a beautiful line.......'I'm grateful she gave me birth but my parents gave me life'....
It’s obvious she is lying profusely..
Her memory is amazingly selective. All the good things she had to say she can't remember but all the bad things, even conversations clear as day
I think she changed her mind because she thinks she could receive benefits if she had the child. It’s done and over. Stop being selfish and let it go.
She can't just change her mind. Sorry, its over. If I was the adoptive parents I would have a restraining order, you don't want to confuse the child further, stay far away. Have fun raising your new child. Goodbye.
Amen.
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sorry, not sorry Liar! this little baby girl is Not your child and wasn’t from the moment it was born!
Sounds like she has selective amnesia
She sure remembers every thing against them.
First of all you had two years you could have got some type of certificate , degree job,got a place to stay got your own car ask for forgiveness,some type of visitation and been humble.
What is best for the toddler? To take it away from the only parents she has ever known is ludicrous and traumatizing. The child isn’t in any danger. For the biological mom to interact with her child, presently, she should be given occasional supervised visits only.
The biological mom seems suspicious to me and her speech/body language are highly suspect that she is telling the truth. Bring on the lie detector test!
I wish my birth mother was watching this. I'm 37 years old, and I still struggle with being adopted.
I’m sorry you had to go through that sweetheart. I will pray that everything works out for you.
Oh darling, I'm so sorry. It must be very difficult for you, and I hope for a good outcome for you.
At least your adoptive parents wanted you. Be grateful for crying out loud.
I surely hope you find healing and apréciate that you were fortunate to have had a home and a family instead or being bounced from place to place with strangers.
Tell me why do you struggle for being adopted? My baby girl will be 17 years old next week and we adopted her and she knows how much we love her. It only means that we wanted her.
She seems to remeber everything except what is convenient for her to remeber. Interesting
‘Too bad, so sad’. I considered adoption for less than a day when I was young and pregnant. I knew if I had the strength to go through with it I would regret it immensely and immediately.
My utmost respect to birth moms who try to give their kids a better life that they know they cannot provide. But it’s cruel wanting to take a child away from its parents, she is not thinking in the best interest of the child but instead her wants and feelings. No no no!
Dr. Phil asked her if she would be able to take care of & provide for the first baby at the point of this airing, & her answer was no. How in the world was she going to be able to with this second one?! Sunny was great here - the baby was no longer hers, & all rights were gone. Closed adoption. I wouldn’t have let this toxic person near my child, ever. I’m the adoptive Mother of two daughters, now in their late twenties. Once those documents were signed, they were ours & we were the only parents.
I had my first son when I was 18. He is now 36. It was very hard but I became a good mother and had help from my family. She's having another baby and she said she has no way to take care of this new one. I think she really needs help. I hope she gets it for her and the babys sake.
3:42 She lieing CLEARLY!! She thinks she can change her mind after 2 years ,that Baby doesn't know her!!! 10:38 You don't need a Husband to raise children!
I was given to my adoptive parents when I was 2 days old. There wasn't any issue regarding giving me up. My birth mother was only 11 years old. My adoptive parents had to prove they were financially stable. They had to pass mental and physical tests. Drug tests and criminal background searches. Finally, they had to deal with surprise visits from social workers. They took reports regarding my condition. They would make notes on how tidy the home was. How much food was available. Who lived in the house. Even the cat and dog my parents had were tested to see if they were aggressive! Adoptive parents go through so much to be parents. I don't think it's too much to require birth parents to have some reasonable standards to have before they have a baby
I've always said this. Anyone can be a biological parent, but adoptive parents have to jump through so many hoops to prove they're fit enough to be parents.
I'm glad you ended up with adoptive parents who love and care for you. If you don't mind me asking, do you have any contact at all with your birth mother?
Amen!!! I have three adopted children and I agree 100%
Sad that she is obviously lying, says I dont remember writing those posts, but then says she write those posts to justify the adoption. Needs to just be honest
A person cannot effectively parent a young child without a reasonable memory. A convenient “loss of memory” definitely precludes any possibility of being a safe, nurturing parenting.
So if Kristen’s mother has all these things to say about Stacey… explain to me why her mother didn’t take her in while pregnant and help her out???
What has baby momma done in thru last 2 years to improve herself ...except cause drama .
All she has to say is "I don't know his name, number, or address"...
@@thetruepatriot7733 She can say that but without his signature to relinquish his rights he is the only one that can contest the adoption sadly.
There’s usually a six month period where the birth mother can change her mind
Well that had passed by 1.5 years when this show aired.
Adoption is such an emotional experience. How many people are adopted and just feel a hole in their life because they don’t know their birth parents? Teen Mom shows how birth parents feel that hole, too. I don’t know what the solution is and I can’t imagine being in that situation. That poor child grows up with this conflict all around.
I think this woman needs therapy at the very least. Suppressing any memory of what happened doesn’t seem like the healthiest coping mechanism. These accusations she is making are pretty serious and have real consequences. She has no legal recourse by now. I get she was scared and in a bad situation. She obviously is suffering. Although I can feel empathy, she still has no way to support this child even if she gets her back. Is she suffering from postpartum with the “she doesn’t feel like mine”? As an adult, we all have to take accountability for our actions. This woman isn’t saying she chose wrong and has regret, but it’s her own fault. She’s saying they took advantage of her. Like when they supported her? When they celebrated Christmas? She chose to leave on her own and got beaten because she made a choice. She doesn’t remember anything. What drugs was she taking? It sure seems like selective memory. That baby is in the best place, because this woman can’t take care of herself. She obviously live like a teenager and refuses to grow up.
I don't think she has a hole to fill. She probably has pockets she wants to fill, and if she is this unstable even now, she is probably not going to keep the new baby for very long either if she doesn't get her life straight.
That isn't true at all my baby girl will be 17 years old and knows she was adopted at birth...she knows she is loved and there is no void
solution: don't get pregnant!
By law, it’s too late for her but it’s still sad.
Yes, 24 hours "cooling off" period, brutal phrase to describe a baby being adopted. I don't know what is best for this baby but the mother needs counselling
I think she will make a terrible mother. I feel sorry for her second child.
@@uknpdsurvivor660it depends on the state. Sometimes it is up to 2 weeks. It seems brutal but it is necessary because of things like this.
Kristen needs a good lawyer. It's possible that the adoptive parents took advantage of her during a vulnerable time when she was dependent on them. If they love the child enough "to be willing to give their lives for her" why deprive the child of contact with her birth mother. She could even have supervised visits elsewhere. In some places, a child cannot be adopted without the signature of the birth father and his showing up on the scene could possibly be a challenge to the legality of the adoption, I think. The adoptive parents here were equally bad mouthing the birth mom and it's possible they contributed to her lack of confidence in being a mother in the first place. It is not all about who has the most money. Kristen could improve her financial status and get good psychological and legal help.
@@nimue4325 she should have had the lawyer when she was pregnant decided to adopt out. Do you know how cruel it is to rip that poor kid away from the only people who have been her parents? Now this dipstick has another kid. Is she married? How was a 17-18 year old going to raise a kid alone? Now she has two. She probably thinks her parents are going to raise it. When teens get knocked up out of wedlock they are better off adopting the child. I was 28 when my husband abandoned me with a new baby and a five year old. I was an adult and it was the most difficult thing I ever had to do. But I raised them well in a Christian home without mommy’s help or welfare. I had a respectable job, but it was very difficult. Kids deserve two parents. What is a 17 year old going to do? Did she and her mother ever hear of contraception? There are many options in that department.
I can’t imagine her mom is happy, not having her grandchild, but also having her grandchild in the arms of the man that cheated and the woman that helped him
Oh, look! Sunny Hostin before she lost her mind
😆 😅😂!!!
Love it "you can remember us threatening you months ago but you cant remember signing papers", that is classed as an A class Buuuurrrrrnnn lol, is she really that stupid lol
Sounds like baby momma is not ready or mature to raise a kid independantly
And she’s pregnant again 😢
Wow who else just caught Sunny Hostel from the view told her she can't get her child back. I realize this was years ago and usually I respect Dr. Phil but this girl probably should have got an attorney not a TV show. Wow is all I keep thinking. Where is her mother? Why would she trust a cheating stepfather?
No court is going to unwind this closed adoption when she has multiple signatures which constitutes a legal contract. Plus even the idea of turning over the child to her is beyond selfish.
Being a parent requires so much consistently putting your own needs after your child's.
This young mother to be doesn't seem to get that yet and refises to take any responsibilty for anything. Same thing with baby #2? Troubling situation.
It took me FIVE YEARS to fully grasp the reality of my abortion. Five years for it to really hit me full force, five years for my motherly instinct to surface, five years to truly mourn and regret my decision. This girl might remember the things she said, and the things she said might have felt true in the moment, but I’m telling you, sometimes it takes years to truly regret your decision to give up your baby in any way. This girl shouldn’t have come on Dr. Phil. She needs real help AWAY from the people that adopted her baby. These people aren’t as innocent as they’re saying, this girl was struggling severely and they didn’t know how to help her or deal with her so they made her the villain. They SHOULD have left her at the hospital. Bringing her back was a bad idea. She would have found her own way. She needs to remove herself from the situation and start bettering herself as a person so that she can be a good mom someday. She’s young, she was young at the time of the adoption and sometimes the journey from girl to woman is rocky and we do things that we regret. Moving forward, I think it would be best for her to remove herself from this situation. Go live, grow and get real therapy and start being honest with herself first so that she can be honest with others.
Very very well said ❤
This woman seems to only remember what is convenient to remember
How did they do the adoption without the biological father signing his rights away as well?
Unfortunately, a father has no rights until paternity can be proven or a birth certificate is signed. It isn’t fair but it’s legal.
maybe never identified. I think bio father has 6 months to show up, of not: too bad.
@@kamikazecassidyshe may not of known where he was or even who he was.
She didn’t know where the father of the child she was carrying was so it wouldn’t surprise me if the same thing was the case with the older child
I used to do notary service at the hospital where I used to work. I made a personal decision to not notarized for a sale of an item as a house, car, transfer of bank account and all adoptions. All of these situations people have such strong emotions and agendas. I got in trouble several times but later the hospital adopted my exception to notary services.
She came back looking black and blue and adopted mom didn't want the household to see her, that's s so unrealistic 🙄 she told the girl to stay in the bedroom so the other kids couldn't see her be all bruised up, why the f*** not?? WTF what is she not supposed to do go use the bathroom go eat I don't think so!! 🙄 The adopted mom said that she didn't want to explain to the other kids why she looked that way why the f*** not just say the truth something horrible happened end of story that's it or you just sayi the truth she got beaten up!! Why didn't she call the police to report abuse instead the adopted mom tells her to go into the bedroom and don't come out!!
I don't know but I think her memory is very strange forgetting things sounds very selective
They need homes for unwed mothers like they had in the old days. Young women are forced to give their babies away or abort because there is no other option if family won’t help.
So many of those homes treated the mothers like dirt ! And they guilted them and more or less forced them to give the baby up. In many homes they were not allowed to tell the other moms even their real name. I have no personal knowledge of these places,but there is lots of valid anecdotal information. Unfortunately,today many young women who are not capable of parenting are having babies , and keeping them .What is the answer ???Wish I knew !
Actually we need young women to not be told that sexual promiscuity is inconsequential. The messaging over the past several decades has created more unsafe homes and situations for babies and children.
So you believe young women should be abused and tormented. If you really knew what happened in these homes you would keep them closed. Just look into the baby laundry deaths! Women were treated like dirt for life after entering these homes!
@@aw2589men should keep it in their pants and it wouldn’t be a problem. One Man can create many more children the one woman can.
Are you serious. Those homes were more often than not awful and babies were literally ripped from their mothers arms
If she truly loved her daughter and was doing this for her daughters sake, she wouldn’t be demanding to completely remove her from everything and everyone she knows since birth.
That is solely for the mother’s benefit. Your daughter dosnt know you! Taking her in the manner she is requesting would feel like a kidnapping to your child. I’m sorry the consequences to your actions arnt something easy live with but you’re still gonna have to live with them!
This trick is completely mentally ill.The second baby needs to go to the couple as well.Because this one wouldn't be surprising if she ended up in jail
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But, if she agreed for temporary adoption, why wasn’t she allowed visits etc It became a closed adoption hmmm a bit suss to me
Sorry, but how in the world are you going to be able to look after a toddler, plus a new baby on your own? The fact that she didn’t learn the first time she got pregnant, then went out and did it again shows she is unstable and can’t make good decisions. There was no mention of the father, or even if she was married and had a stable living environment and money to support even her new baby. Her guilt has just made her reckless, and she shouldn’t even be allowed to raise her new baby when it comes, let alone her first one who has that stability.
She's a liar she says she doesn't remember signing papers but yet she can say they started out wanting temporary custody and then full blown custody yeah she's lying.
My brother and his wife adopted a baby 20 years ago with a family member on his wife’s side of the family the adoptive mom is mommy and the birth mother is the birth mom no drama No misunderstandings everyone knows their place in the situation. The birth mother was very young at the time 15 I believe and later she graduated with honors from high school and went on to college . When my nephew was older they told him about the adoption and he said oh cool I’ve got 2 moms lol
Good thing she puts her personal business on FB to be used as evidence later. The posts imply that she was fighting with people on FB about her choice. Insanely immature and her poor second child is gonna have to deal with having her as a mother.
Anyone else feel kinda uncomfortable at the end?
She can’t even lie right… 😂😂😂😂😂 Get yourself together. This is why you’re not a mom. It’s a blessing that her kid got adopted instead of staying with that trainwreck of a “mother”.
she is steady LYING! the math ain't mathin',boo!🙄
Where do these people get off assigning the most appalling motivations to people? They just rip people apart for their past mistakes while begging full immunity for their mistakes, thats different! Ug.
Very selective memory; just doesn't ring true. She is not credible. How is Kristen supporting herself now? Where is this baby's father? How is she going to care for this child?
She’s a player trying to destroy their credibility to explain her change of mind - buyers remorse comes to mind
I can’t listen to her vocal fry.
I think she's also doing it for extramoney on welfare
Those stepparents are disgusting It is not their child. My daughter signed adoption papers and the judge reversed it bc she was under the influence of prescribed drugs. I nave had guardianship of 6 of my gc and always allowed visitation if the parents show an interest. I never wanted to adopt my gc bc I believe I am only there to stand in the gap until your parents mature and show responsibility. Too many young girls feel forced into adoption and then they regret it bc they didn't have any support from family or resources to make a good decision
Shouldn't this conversation be happening in a courtroom?
I think at the time of the adoption she would have been under an extreme amount of stress, which could easily result in memory loss. We've all heard of 'baby brain'.
I feel the baby should not be parted for adoptive parent but i feel thr adoptive mother is a bit cheeky.
She looks like she just wanted attention and bored cause nothing she said made any kind of sense. Dr. Phil knew better. 😂
It's very odd how everything she says starts with 'the way i remember it' she doesn't seem 'all there'? like it just feels like it's her go to automatic response when things aren't going in her favour to gain sympathy
Hopefully her 1st and 2nd child will see this and stay with Stacy and Adam long term!!!!!!!!!
I believe the adopted mother did manipulate her into giving her the baby. They should have waited to see if she could handle the baby first before adoption was suggested. To take this baby right away was wrong They did not try to help her
How can her stepfather say she is a bad mother when she hasnt had a chance to be a mother
Honest, I don't believe either of them. She wants money while I get the feeling that they want kids.
I dont remember isnt a good legal argument
Stacy has serious brain deterioration. She should never be allowed to care for children. 🙄
This young woman definitely should not get the child back after 2 years. She is unhinged imo.
It’s very convenient how she apparently remembers some things but not others
and no father in sight, no means of support in sight and another one on the way..she is a psycho, very sad.
How are you gonna claim someone else is so mentally unstable that they need to be medicated and have a child taken from them when you don’t even remember giving your child up for adoption in the first place…
Make it make sense cuz that in no ways adds up
That and if I was drugged and forced to sign over my child it wouldn’t take me 2 days let alone 2 YEARS to bring that to the attention of law enforcement or the courts. So girl what do you mean?!
Anyone thats lost a child from birth and later placed for Adoption… Trust me, I know your pain!
I have not started to watch this video yet, but I agree. The Safe Families Act needs to be abolished.
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@@donnasouthward3338 i wonder why no one is asking why they didn’t opt to help this girl get stable and be a mom instead of this adoption situation. It seems mean, but it was a done deal with the court. She sounds crazy because this is crazy
An adoption is an adoption and she is lucky to still be involved with the child. I only feel sorry for the child
this woman is disgusting. she's not even stable and she wants to raise children?
Somebody else pointed it out someone else said there was a biological father involved than the child could not be adopted without his say-so so what happened to him??
You can't adopt a child out without the biological father having some input because right now if he didn't say so then he can go and say I never agreed to have the child adopted out and he could automatically get the child back so we need to know what happened to him!!
She might've said she doesn't know who the father is
Maybe she claimed *grape
This is a good one! Hope I don't "forget" watching it!
She needs therapy.
I am two minutes in and this kid
Needs to stop having kids
She’s the nut so
Has this girl been checked for multiple personalities? If she doesn't remember doing something, but there's proof she did; that could be the reason, or she has a short term memory loss. If that's the case, she might be able to get her child back, with medical help.
I did not have Sunny Hostin in my expectations when I clicked on this video 😂
With her selective memory... she will be unfit to take care of her baby.
Why does Dr. Phil allow this silly lying woman to come on the show? She just wants her fifteen minutes of fame!
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You don't remember, but posted about it on social media?
Dr. Phil gave the adaptive parent to pass and didn’t let us know any of the horrific details that were shared on the screen. He also didn’t provide any help for this young mother and her baby on the way. At least none that we saw.
Where is her mom?
Good question........where is any of her biological family besides her mom?
Leave that darling little baby girl with her adopted parents as they will probably provide a stable life for her. As I don't think this young girl will be able to give her the up bringing that these adopted parents can. Maybe they can make arrangements for the biological mother to have visits right later on. I was adopted as a baby and I had the best adopted parents ever who loved me unconditional. I did meet my biological mum and she said that she was so grateful for my adopted parents for giving me the life that she could've given me. All my darling parents have now gone to God's Kingdom❤
Bottom line she have them her baby that baby is loved and bonded with those parents!don't ruin the kid for her selfish whim!!she needs to move forward and when ba😮is old enough to ask for her them it should be on the child's terms with f and how she wants to be involved with bio mom
How convenient is selective amnesia.
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I don't know if there was a lawyer there to explain to her. What she was signing. What it FULLY meant. This I don't remember is NOT am excuse. Also her actions after. By going out and acting like she didn't have a child. Staying away for about a week? That shows me she could care less.
Wow sunny has changed then and now on the view
It looks like the woman who gave birth to the child claims that it was not an adoption for her, but just a form of baby day and night care. Now she ask to give her back the baby she left. If she understand it that way, she could ask for the child after she can prove that she is able to take good care of the child and also pay for baby care: the money that the foster parents invested in her child and also pay for their work (associated with baby care 24 hours a day for more than two years) - I can see it approximately $ 200 thousand dollars or even more.
Why didn’t they bring up the drug use more
MANIPULATIVE
5:16 5 minutes in and i know shes a damn liar🗑💀
He is a horrible person