I just need to clarify that the guy asked for the help, he was not mentioning to use the athlon 2 to build a pc with it , he was mentioned that he got a new hp pavilion laptop for free,that he was planning to give it to his wife to play sims 4
The HP Pavilion lineup also has traditional desktops, but your point still stands. He missed the point entirely. I like Zach but his content can be a mixed bag.
His advice isn't wrong. Athlon sucks balls and that laptop isn't going to run sims 4, at the end ge mentioned a much better alternative which is answering dudes comment. Unless you expect him to go through every single thing dude needs to update on that crappy laptop, telling the commenter to just take 200$ and buy a used PC is a much much better option than trying to upgrade a crap laptop. Maybe not what the commenter was asking for, but it's the best advice whether commenter likes it or not.
A few years ago I got a cheap, used office PC with integrated graphics and a 3rd gen i5 (to use as a local server) and it ran Sims 4 very well with medium settings. But it wouldn't run on the Celeron AIO that I used as a client. Celerons are more comparable to Athlons. That was a while ago and the poster didn't specify the model or generation of the chip, so it might be adequate, or not. Sims 4 is a pretty old game, but requires a decent amount of RAM and would benefit from an SSD.
Hey, the dude says it was free. Not to mention that depending on the model, an Athlon 2 is within minimum spec for running Sims 4, and it could potentially be a bargain for older titles.
yep can't go wrong then, can always repurpose it for something else later after you get another old machine that's stronger. One can get the good ol Phenom II or quad core athlons for cheap and good performance, or a FM3 etc. Depends what the motherboard will support
@@Duck_side Way down I remember my last Athlon 2 got to the point where 720P videos were difficult to watch without excessive loading. However, it still works unlike my last Celeron.
For those of us older people who have actually been building PCs through the 2000s the Athlon line was a huge breath of fresh air from the awfulness of the Pentium 4. We also got the Athlon 64, the first backwards-compatible 64-bit x86 chip! Yes the Athlon II line might not be suitable for anything modern (it is debatable that it'd run The Sims 4 all that well) but trying to pretend that the Athlon line has almost always sucked is revisionist history.
The original slot A and socket A CPUs were fantastic! Sucks that they turned the Athlon line into a discount chip. I still have my old slot A Athlon 500. It was a late model one that had a 650mhz core. I got it stable at 814mhz; ran circles around my friends budget Durin 1ghz system.
Yeah I was like, wtf is he talking about, in the early 2000s intel's pentium processers were a joke amongst the PC building community. the only people I knew running intel chips in the early 2000s were those who just bought whatever they could afford off the shelf because a lot of the manufacturers like dell and HP used primarily intel pentiums but everyone I knew who built their own used AMD
@@AncelWhite I still have my Athlon XP 3200+ system and the 2400+ Thoroughbred chip too. Clearly shows he's still a noob in comparison to us. I still remember the Athlon64 FX cost an arm and leg back then.
Did he miss the part that he was given it for free and was asking how he could use it for his wife? Instead of answering that, he turned into a salesman and told him to buy something instead of something free that was given…
The rich and famous act like these they all do sadly, perfect never make a mistake attitude. That athlon could play almost anything from 2015 or below, heck even playing some modern titles with a grain of salt.
In many cases, at least in the U.S, Athlon 200GE and Athlon 3000Gs cost more than an R3 1200 AE or R3 1200 AF used, with the downside being the R3s dont have an iGPU, so the next cheapest to get would be a 22 or 2400G
I don't think this video was too helpful to the person who asked though. They wanted to know what they could do to get the sims 4 on this free athlon hp computer.
@guyman1570 what do you mean? The only thing you can't do is run modern intensive games. If you just want to browse the web, edit documents, and play Sims 4 then a 15 year old chip will do fine. The Athlon II may not be the best choice, but something like a Phenom II X4 could handle that easily.
@@th3turb0lagThis shows how crazy AMD were back then. I remember using the AMD Opteron 170 socket 939 cpu and it was nuts ( I think I still have the box). Intel's lineup at that time was only good for heating up the room in winter time.
Excuse me the athlon 64 back when it was Pentium 4 and Pentium D were intels best Athlon and Athlon x2 took intels lunch. It wasn't until core 2 series came out that intels dominate run started. Show some respect to 754 and 939 Athlons
I didn't even know there were newer Athlon CPUs. I literally thought he was talking about the old-school Athlon XPs and 64s. My very first PC build was with an Athlon XP 3200+ I paid for with my first paycheck at my first job. It was a huge milestone for me being able to play CS 1.3 at a decent framerate.
considering he got the pc for free it might be worth to check how hard it would be to add a used budget gpu in that thing. chances seem low though it might be better to just sell it or maybe the kids can use it as their first pc
I got an Intel i3 4060 for 2$ (15¥) in China, it was an i5 8500 that got labeled wrong, worst part was that the poor guy gave me an entire box of 10 of those mislabeled i5 cpus because he thought those are the i3 4060 that no one wants😢
An Athlon II X3/X4 was my dream in early high school. Those were budget champions back then. If I got a pc with them for dirt cheap, that would be a great retro machine.
@@patg108 Yeah, no L3 cache on those. But it was interesting that on some early models, you could unlock it, because it was just disabled. Same with the fourth core on the X3 variants. If you were lucky and it was stable. They were disabled for a reason, after all 😄
I used Athlon 3000G to play GTA 5, CSGO and other games. It handled them great, but yeah, I felt I deserved better so as the time went on, I built 5600G and RX 6600
In developing countries where salaries are quite limited, ultra low budget PCs are around $100 or even less, don't forget about taxes of around 20-30% which makes PC parts more expensive than in your country.
The funny thing is when the Athlon first hit the market that was actually the first AMD CPU to ever truly dominate the intel competition. I used to own an Athlon Thunderbird 1400 MHz from 2002 to around 2008. And nothing Intel had at the time was as fast. They made a 1400 MHz CPU half a year later. And the performance of that one with the AMD one were very dependent on the task. AMD had larger L1 cache, Intel had larger L2 cache and the intel chip was the one to introduce SSE instructions while AMD had their own 3DNow instructions. But Athlon as a brand is basically like Intel's Pentium brand. It used to be the absolute top of the line not just for the company but for the market in general. And after introducing newer chips the brand simply went down the stack when newer brands were introduced.
It'd be fine for retro gaming or if its a X4 on AM3/ + it'd be fine for low end games as its almost the same thing as a Phenom II by a lesser branding. And technically that was one of AMD's brief times of dominance slightly. (slightly better than a core2quad, one of their others is back in the 486 era) And in the early 2000s Athlon was once the high end chip naming convention.
I had an Athalon and it was great! Went from a 333Mhz Celeron to a 766Mhz or so Athalon and the performance difference was huge. Back in the early 2000s that was.
Clearly shows Zack is still a noob. He clearly didn't experience the AMD thoroughbred and the toaster Intel Northwood Era architecture ( not even going to go the Coppermine Pentium III)
I recently put together a budget gaming machine for my daughter using a Ryzen 5 3600. That thing is still a little banger. You can pick them up so cheap I don't see a reason to use anything less.
There are no bad products, just bad prices. I know if I were looking at used office PCs on the the AM4 platform and they had Athlons I wouldn’t scoff at them. $150 with the potential to drop in a 3200G or a 5600G. Classic budget baller W.
I remember when the i7-920 was the best cpu back in 2008, it was like a intel core i9-14900ks of its time, i ran crysis back in 2009 with 900p resolution high settings, 50-60 fps
For ultra budget cpu at $200 if you want almost all new, you can setup i5 3rd cpu set(around $185)/i5 4th cpu set gen(around $213) 16gb ddr3 ram(8+8) a normal cabinet 512gb ssd/M.2(many new 3rd/4th gen now support it) gtx 1050ti 4gb (Used) 450 80+ white psu Only gpu is used This setup is possible here in India,I'm sure it also can in other countries
I bought a Dell optiplext with an i5 8500 and 8gb of ram for 40 bucks. Paired it with a 500 watt psu, another 8gb stick of ram for 16gb, a ssd, and a gtx 1070 8gb. I threw it in a really nice fishtank case I got for 65 bucks with 9 fans and it preforms great. I still need to paint the mobo but in total i spent a little over 200 usd to build this pc. Its a solid 1080p triple A gaming pc
What are you smoking? Do you not remember the xp days. They dominated Intel. The socket 939 and fx60 processor was king. But that was long ago and they ran slower than Intel and were just as fast if not faster. That's why a 3800+xp processor has lower clocks and ran just as fast. Jeez do your homework
I ve used an athlon 3000g since the pandemic started. Got it for very cheap, paired with a 320 super cheap mobo and 2x4 ddr4 ram sticks. A month ago, i got a used r5 2600x and an old gtx 960 2gb. Huge upgrade. But the athlon done it s job playing old games at 1080p with no problems.
I had the first gen Athlon 1000 for first PC back in 2001. That PC was a room heater. Side panel was always open with desk fan blowing AC air in to the PC but it would still run over 60 degree even when idling.
since everyone hates on Zach for this, I'd like to clarify that the guy who asked this is talking about a laptop. Like quite literally he said that he wants to build a pc. From a free laptop. But yeah Zach should've explained it to him.
The phenom chips in the late 2000s and early 2010s are solid chips if you cannot afford an i7. The Intel i7 in 2008 is the first multi core consumer CPU with hyper threading and set standard for PC gaming.
We should remember one thing. Athlon chips were the high end chips in our days, there were the first to be even 2 core CPUs (Athlon 64 X2) and were super great, while Sempron chips were the low end ones. Nowadays Athlon is the low end line of chips, while the Ryzen series are the high end line.
came here to say this exact thing, the dude had a reason to use the athlon cpu and a specific goal of playing sims 4 in mind on the cheap cheap. that being said there's a good chance that pavilion mother board wont handle any kind of modern gpu or be compatible with a power supply that can handle it so its most likely a lost cause anyway, but the point still stands that the guy had a specific goal set and question he was asking for help with.
I had Athlon before, I would never recommend it. I used it back on my old pc and it died after 6 years. Performance is TERRIBLE, not even basic capcut editing can perform normally without lagging. Gaming is almost impossible, GTA V with absolute lowest settings possible, its so slow. So yea after the cpu died, I bought a pre-built with a Ryzen 5 4500, GTX 1650, 16 GB RAM DDR4 3200MHZ. This is good enough for basic capcut editing skills. Im happy with it :)
I am an old enough person to remember athlons, and I distinctly remember them being favoured over intel processors because they were easier to overclock
My first CPU was the FX6300. 3 core 6 thread with the gtx 1060ssc with 6gb vram and 8gb ram. It ran 1080p pretty well giving me playable 90fps on max settings in Destiny 2 back in 2016. The total build cost was $650 with $300 coming from the GPU. The CPU and motherboard (microATX) were $150, PSU was $50, case was $50, 8gb 2 sticks DDR3 ram was $47, 120gb SSD was $44. I wish we could have those prices again .-.
I mean the Athlon 64 x2 6000+ competed with the Core 2 Duo E8400 in performance back in the day. So they certainly had some good ones for that time. These days its on par with pentiums and celerons.
With the pc he was provided, I'd recommend replacing the thermal paste and cleaning out the pc, then install a custom iso to get the max performance of that old athlon,
It depends on which platform the athlon is on. If it's AM3+, bro might be able to add a budget gpu and be able to play the sims 4, and if the motherboard and PSU allows, slot in a FX at a later date as a cheap upgrade
in 2011 i built a pc wirh an athlon II 640 and 4gb of ddr3 ram. it was a pretty rippin' machine! i used it until 2019 with a few upgrades here and there
athlon cpus are totally alright considering their super-budget price range, hell I used a 3000g for years with few problems. they're reliable, have some wiggle room for overclocking if you're careful, and most importantly, you can switch it out with a better cpu down the line when you have the money. it's obviously not the *only* route for a budget computer, but it's your best bet if you are intent on new components
Saying that Athlon was never an Option for gaming is Bullshit. I started gaming on PC with Intel (Pentium MMX), I had a Duron afterwards, Athlon, Pentium 4, FX-6300. The last one I got fro free so In do not mind the brand. I used the FX-6300 with an RX 570 for Gaming. I changed to Ryzen 7 7700 in April, still with the RX 570. It depends on the titles you want to play and you cannot expect high framerates of course. Both for the FX and Ryzen, the diffrence is that with titles that use more CPU Power you have way more stable Framerates. When you depend on a cheap CPU, you won't by the latest games on steam. Maybe Epic games, that are for free every week that need more CPU Power. But I agree with the conclusion. I would not start buidling a gaming PC with an Athlon, or only when I get the parts for free or pocket money at maximum.
The first PC I built was an Athlon 64 machine and it was great. ATHLON 64 was the first 64bit cpu for the average consumer. Intel was still messing about with 32bit.
The Athlon 2 was recommended spec prior to ryzen launch, and what I ran it on an amd 64 back at launch. Dlc packs may up the requirements but it should run the base game on windows xp.
I think he got a free HP Pavilion with an AMD Athlon 2 and he wants to give this PC for his wife just to play Sims 4. I think Zach misunderstood what the guy was trying to say.
I want to build my first pc and i think am going with AMD's APU which is R5 8600g and for future proofing i will invest in RTX 4060Ti, am i doing well ? Love ur content keep it up my man❤
The only exception would be if you live in a country where those alternatives don’t exist or aren’t practical.
HEART PLS
Hey! If amd launches athlon in am5, then what should he do?
@@manisha_das_7672 Buy an AM4 CPU🧠
Or you remember the 6th gen intel is obsolete next year when windows abandons windows 10.
Athlon is discontinued, I believe.
bro got recognized only for his question to get ignored
Wym he said it’s trash 😂
It's trash though
@@TheBrickGodare yall blind? The guy said he got a free pc with and Athlon he didnt buy It and wanted to know what to upgrade to make It run Sims 4
@@TheBrickGodread what the dude wrote, it's free cpu to run sims4
@@jakubgrzybek6181 and he said it can’t barely run a thing, hope that helps
I just need to clarify that the guy asked for the help, he was not mentioning to use the athlon 2 to build a pc with it , he was mentioned that he got a new hp pavilion laptop for free,that he was planning to give it to his wife to play sims 4
The HP Pavilion lineup also has traditional desktops, but your point still stands. He missed the point entirely. I like Zach but his content can be a mixed bag.
His advice isn't wrong. Athlon sucks balls and that laptop isn't going to run sims 4, at the end ge mentioned a much better alternative which is answering dudes comment. Unless you expect him to go through every single thing dude needs to update on that crappy laptop, telling the commenter to just take 200$ and buy a used PC is a much much better option than trying to upgrade a crap laptop. Maybe not what the commenter was asking for, but it's the best advice whether commenter likes it or not.
@@Kratos-eg7ez Most likely not a laptop, the person is probably referring to an old desktop office PC
@@OlaftheGreatwhich tbh is even easier to upgrade
A few years ago I got a cheap, used office PC with integrated graphics and a 3rd gen i5 (to use as a local server) and it ran Sims 4 very well with medium settings.
But it wouldn't run on the Celeron AIO that I used as a client. Celerons are more comparable to Athlons.
That was a while ago and the poster didn't specify the model or generation of the chip, so it might be adequate, or not. Sims 4 is a pretty old game, but requires a decent amount of RAM and would benefit from an SSD.
Hey, the dude says it was free. Not to mention that depending on the model, an Athlon 2 is within minimum spec for running Sims 4, and it could potentially be a bargain for older titles.
yep can't go wrong then, can always repurpose it for something else later after you get another old machine that's stronger.
One can get the good ol Phenom II or quad core athlons for cheap and good performance, or a FM3 etc.
Depends what the motherboard will support
He can put like a gt 1030 lol r9 360
I actually still own a working Athlon
It runs well on modern games still, just have to turn the settings down
@@TheMarioMakerMaster it can do better
@@Duck_side Way down I remember my last Athlon 2 got to the point where 720P videos were difficult to watch without excessive loading. However, it still works unlike my last Celeron.
Bro casually just reading only what he wants💀💀
Edit: i May have started a war💀
His channel his choice what he wants to make content from
@@NHDUTANIOUSshut up
@@NHDUTANIOUShis viewers have the right to criticize how he makes his content
@NHDUTANIOUS The same free-speech that allows him to post whatever vomit he wants, is the same free-speech that allows us to criticize it
@@mtheoverlord7840actually not true he can’t post whatever he wants
For those of us older people who have actually been building PCs through the 2000s the Athlon line was a huge breath of fresh air from the awfulness of the Pentium 4. We also got the Athlon 64, the first backwards-compatible 64-bit x86 chip!
Yes the Athlon II line might not be suitable for anything modern (it is debatable that it'd run The Sims 4 all that well) but trying to pretend that the Athlon line has almost always sucked is revisionist history.
yea idk what he is talking about lol... is he clueless and just saying stuff without any research?
The original slot A and socket A CPUs were fantastic! Sucks that they turned the Athlon line into a discount chip.
I still have my old slot A Athlon 500. It was a late model one that had a 650mhz core. I got it stable at 814mhz; ran circles around my friends budget Durin 1ghz system.
Athlon almost killed intel lmao funny how time spirals, we're in the same situation with zen 4 vs rocket lake right now
Yeah I was like, wtf is he talking about, in the early 2000s intel's pentium processers were a joke amongst the PC building community. the only people I knew running intel chips in the early 2000s were those who just bought whatever they could afford off the shelf because a lot of the manufacturers like dell and HP used primarily intel pentiums but everyone I knew who built their own used AMD
@@AncelWhite I still have my Athlon XP 3200+ system and the 2400+ Thoroughbred chip too. Clearly shows he's still a noob in comparison to us. I still remember the Athlon64 FX cost an arm and leg back then.
never use an Athlon, always use a ryzen 4070
But thats a GPU
@@Ryzen-4070 yeah, nvidia 7800x3d supremacy
@@Ryzen-4070Look at me, I am the APU now
Just pair the two and u have the best neck a computer can bottle
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Did he miss the part that he was given it for free and was asking how he could use it for his wife?
Instead of answering that, he turned into a salesman and told him to buy something instead of something free that was given…
Yeah,he totally did!
Ye hes shilling for stuff thats brand new so bad, would most likely recommend someone a 4060 over a 3090 lmfao
@@Cr0frog The newest CPU he mentioned in the video was the R5 3600 which is 5 years old. That isn't brand new 💀
@@ckingc05 for someone with a athlon budget it might aswell be brand new lmfao
@@Cr0frogthen go with a chromebook?
This guy doesn't even make sense. READ THE QUESTION FULLY
The rich and famous act like these they all do sadly, perfect never make a mistake attitude. That athlon could play almost anything from 2015 or below, heck even playing some modern titles with a grain of salt.
There are people out there that at best can afford to spend $20 on a CPU. Most being students at school without any consistent source of money
In many cases, at least in the U.S, Athlon 200GE and Athlon 3000Gs cost more than an R3 1200 AE or R3 1200 AF used, with the downside being the R3s dont have an iGPU, so the next cheapest to get would be a 22 or 2400G
then dont buy a pc bro its that simple
You can get an old dual core Pentium for that price, and it'll be leagues better than that POS Athlon
@@ThatIxoGuy remember some students need a computer for... coding
Artist too
@michaelruiz0621a 200 dollar pc aint working for art or coding, the best a 200 dollar pc xan do atm is running a youtube video.
I don't think this video was too helpful to the person who asked though. They wanted to know what they could do to get the sims 4 on this free athlon hp computer.
ikr
You really can't do much with a CPU that's more than 15 years old.
@@guyman1570 sims 4 is easy to run anyways
@@guyman1570 so is the core 2 duo and people still use it
@guyman1570 what do you mean? The only thing you can't do is run modern intensive games. If you just want to browse the web, edit documents, and play Sims 4 then a 15 year old chip will do fine. The Athlon II may not be the best choice, but something like a Phenom II X4 could handle that easily.
Athlon back in the day was kicking the crap out of Pentium4/D during the netburst era
Clearly shows he's still a youngster compare to us who worked with socket 939 chipsets. Still have my Pentium 3 and Pentium 120mhz kicking around.
God I feel old. The first computer I built was a 486 dx4 100 🤣. Next was a Pentium 2 200 with sli voodoo 2s 🤣.
Yes, Athlon was better for a period there. Remembering my Athlon 3000 with a 7900GS GPU, it was sweet
@@kampo83 You can feel a little younger, mine was a 286, a 486 25, then an IBM AMD 486 40mhz.
Actually, in the mid 2000's those Athlon chips were extremely impressive at the time.
no worry. He was probably playing with his toys while these chips were rocking the industry.
@@Adrian802Prolly, those are good cpu's man, was able to run one of them at 49° only *without thermal paste*
@@th3turb0lagThis shows how crazy AMD were back then. I remember using the AMD Opteron 170 socket 939 cpu and it was nuts ( I think I still have the box). Intel's lineup at that time was only good for heating up the room in winter time.
If u consider buying a Athlon chip, u could just buy a 13/14 Gen Intel CPU
The Legend itself has spoken, whatever it says is the truth.
@@Ryzen-4070 bruh we meet again
I would rather run my PC through the GPU chip than use an athlon chip 😭
Ryzen 4070 not talking about Ryzen 4070s!?
@@KTK-..579 crazy isn't it?
Excuse me the athlon 64 back when it was Pentium 4 and Pentium D were intels best Athlon and Athlon x2 took intels lunch. It wasn't until core 2 series came out that intels dominate run started. Show some respect to 754 and 939 Athlons
Not forgetting the old Socket 'A' Athlons, of which I had several, including the original 1GHz Thunderbird as well as a later Athlon XP.
I didn't even know there were newer Athlon CPUs. I literally thought he was talking about the old-school Athlon XPs and 64s. My very first PC build was with an Athlon XP 3200+ I paid for with my first paycheck at my first job. It was a huge milestone for me being able to play CS 1.3 at a decent framerate.
Yep. My Athlon 1.2ghz used to stomp p4s back in the day. Late 90’s through early 00’s, Intel wasn’t even close to AMD.
The Athlon 64 is the single largest jump in CPU power we may ever see.
Actually Barton cores athlon were the beginning of AmD to rise its dominance, then athlon 64 (939)
considering he got the pc for free it might be worth to check how hard it would be to add a used budget gpu in that thing.
chances seem low though it might be better to just sell it or maybe the kids can use it as their first pc
I got an Intel i3 4060 for 2$ (15¥) in China, it was an i5 8500 that got labeled wrong, worst part was that the poor guy gave me an entire box of 10 of those mislabeled i5 cpus because he thought those are the i3 4060 that no one wants😢
An Athlon II X3/X4 was my dream in early high school. Those were budget champions back then. If I got a pc with them for dirt cheap, that would be a great retro machine.
That's because they were lower tier branded versions of the Phenom series
@@patg108 Yeah, no L3 cache on those. But it was interesting that on some early models, you could unlock it, because it was just disabled. Same with the fourth core on the X3 variants. If you were lucky and it was stable. They were disabled for a reason, after all 😄
@@DronSkyhawk yeah its lesser but its still not bad for what it is and when it was made
your not going to be able to play much. given that most games expect SSE3+ CPU instructions to run.
@@psionx1 more than what you think but it'll be older stuff
-Hello!
-Let me stop you right there. 😂😂😂
I used Athlon 3000G to play GTA 5, CSGO and other games. It handled them great, but yeah, I felt I deserved better so as the time went on, I built 5600G and RX 6600
In developing countries where salaries are quite limited, ultra low budget PCs are around $100 or even less, don't forget about taxes of around 20-30% which makes PC parts more expensive than in your country.
The funny thing is when the Athlon first hit the market that was actually the first AMD CPU to ever truly dominate the intel competition. I used to own an Athlon Thunderbird 1400 MHz from 2002 to around 2008. And nothing Intel had at the time was as fast. They made a 1400 MHz CPU half a year later. And the performance of that one with the AMD one were very dependent on the task. AMD had larger L1 cache, Intel had larger L2 cache and the intel chip was the one to introduce SSE instructions while AMD had their own 3DNow instructions. But Athlon as a brand is basically like Intel's Pentium brand. It used to be the absolute top of the line not just for the company but for the market in general. And after introducing newer chips the brand simply went down the stack when newer brands were introduced.
It'd be fine for retro gaming or if its a X4 on AM3/ + it'd be fine for low end games as its almost the same thing as a Phenom II by a lesser branding.
And technically that was one of AMD's brief times of dominance slightly. (slightly better than a core2quad, one of their others is back in the 486 era)
And in the early 2000s Athlon was once the high end chip naming convention.
I had an Athalon and it was great! Went from a 333Mhz Celeron to a 766Mhz or so Athalon and the performance difference was huge. Back in the early 2000s that was.
Clearly shows Zack is still a noob. He clearly didn't experience the AMD thoroughbred and the toaster Intel Northwood Era architecture ( not even going to go the Coppermine Pentium III)
That chip said “2009” on it 😭
That’s like booting up Warzone on an Xbox 360
Microsoft are definitely using an AMD athlon for their servers
"Now, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi
Bro want to build a PC with PC parts from the Graveyard💀
Necromancy Gaming.
can you even read?
@@chicken_wing1235 no
@@chicken_wing1235move on.. don't use a 20 year old chip to run modern games 😂
Hey, man. Amd 64 and Phenom were lowkey amazing.
Zach needs to make a ryzen 4070 build asap 😂
So funny😐😐😐
I love where he helped him.
He did. The advice is solid. Don't use a twenty year old CPU to run Sims 4. 😂
@@guyman1570 are you blind? He just said its a bad idea to *BUY* It. The guy asked what he need to upgrade for it to run Sims 4.
I had an Athlon 20 years ago.
explains everything
@@user-gw2vz5gh2nfr
The 2016 athlon was solid in its time. By now its definitely outclassed though.
Can you convince my friend to upgrade his monitor from 2011?
I mean, if your friend is happy with it they don’t rly need to upgrade it, it’s their money, unless ur using it regularly too
I have a windows xp computer from 2004 and it has an AMD athlon 64. And for what it is, it is extremely powerful.
Bro didn't answer the comment🗣️🔥🔥
No? He said don't bother trying to play Sims 4 on an Athlon chip. He's right. 😂 These CPUs age out extremely fast.
I recently put together a budget gaming machine for my daughter using a Ryzen 5 3600. That thing is still a little banger. You can pick them up so cheap I don't see a reason to use anything less.
Nice editing
There are no bad products, just bad prices. I know if I were looking at used office PCs on the the AM4 platform and they had Athlons I wouldn’t scoff at them. $150 with the potential to drop in a 3200G or a 5600G. Classic budget baller W.
I remember when the i7-920 was the best cpu back in 2008, it was like a intel core i9-14900ks of its time, i ran crysis back in 2009 with 900p resolution high settings, 50-60 fps
My GPU was the amd Radeon hd 5770
For ultra budget cpu at $200 if you want almost all new, you can setup
i5 3rd cpu set(around $185)/i5 4th cpu set gen(around $213)
16gb ddr3 ram(8+8)
a normal cabinet
512gb ssd/M.2(many new 3rd/4th gen now support it)
gtx 1050ti 4gb (Used)
450 80+ white psu
Only gpu is used
This setup is possible here in India,I'm sure it also can in other countries
The athlon was secretly a prototype of the upcoming ryzen 4070 GPU since it's a hybrid of an amd cpu and a nvidia GPU
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Ryzen 4070 claps any processor
He. That brings me back. My first custom build had an athlon 64 cpu.
The ryzen 4070 trend must stop
No
When Zack slams his phone, you know he is serious.
My mom built a computer with an Athlon 2 445, a GT 730, and a Biostar motherboard. All done in 2009.
The Athlon 2 445 came out in 2010 and the GT 730 came out in 2014, stop the cap
@@Quietbut_Deadlythe mobo had a built in gpu. The GT 730 came later on. Then im just a year off.
I bought a Dell optiplext with an i5 8500 and 8gb of ram for 40 bucks. Paired it with a 500 watt psu, another 8gb stick of ram for 16gb, a ssd, and a gtx 1070 8gb. I threw it in a really nice fishtank case I got for 65 bucks with 9 fans and it preforms great. I still need to paint the mobo but in total i spent a little over 200 usd to build this pc. Its a solid 1080p triple A gaming pc
What are you smoking? Do you not remember the xp days. They dominated Intel. The socket 939 and fx60 processor was king. But that was long ago and they ran slower than Intel and were just as fast if not faster. That's why a 3800+xp processor has lower clocks and ran just as fast. Jeez do your homework
People saying he ignored the ‘free’ part when frankly I think he’s saying its not worth using Athlon even if he was PAID to use it
And for the budget build its really important to use the ryzen 4070
Much like the Pentium line, the Athlon name used to be for AMD's good CPUs before eventually being used for their entry level models.
oh geez AMD Athlon took me back to my first serious computer in 2001.
I ve used an athlon 3000g since the pandemic started. Got it for very cheap, paired with a 320 super cheap mobo and 2x4 ddr4 ram sticks. A month ago, i got a used r5 2600x and an old gtx 960 2gb. Huge upgrade. But the athlon done it s job playing old games at 1080p with no problems.
Fun fact the althlon thunderbird cpu was the first amd cpu to beat anything intel had
The AMD Thunderbird, XP, 64 era was great
"Us older people" hit me harder than it should
I had the first gen Athlon 1000 for first PC back in 2001. That PC was a room heater. Side panel was always open with desk fan blowing AC air in to the PC but it would still run over 60 degree even when idling.
The FX chips were baller at the time.
since everyone hates on Zach for this, I'd like to clarify that the guy who asked this is talking about a laptop. Like quite literally he said that he wants to build a pc. From a free laptop. But yeah Zach should've explained it to him.
HP pavilion has a desktop. The commenters said he wanted to "build" you should know that he meant desktop not laptop also the guy got it for free too
@@reneko even so, Zach is right, these CPUs aged fast 😂
The phenom chips in the late 2000s and early 2010s are solid chips if you cannot afford an i7. The Intel i7 in 2008 is the first multi core consumer CPU with hyper threading and set standard for PC gaming.
Love that x-ray skin from Jerry and Dbrand
Never saw him give up that quickly
I was there, 3000 years ago when we still used AMD K6-2 chips
finally 2600 mentioned! 2600 user here since 2018, 2600 still amazing till this day run smooth on 1080
actually athlons destroyed Intel until they released the core 2 duo. The fx 8350 was also a solid option that can still game today.
We should remember one thing. Athlon chips were the high end chips in our days, there were the first to be even 2 core CPUs (Athlon 64 X2) and were super great, while Sempron chips were the low end ones. Nowadays Athlon is the low end line of chips, while the Ryzen series are the high end line.
Athlon II x260 was my first build. I must say, for adventurers must try the fun of unlocking and overclocking cores with phenom II.
came here to say this exact thing, the dude had a reason to use the athlon cpu and a specific goal of playing sims 4 in mind on the cheap cheap. that being said there's a good chance that pavilion mother board wont handle any kind of modern gpu or be compatible with a power supply that can handle it so its most likely a lost cause anyway, but the point still stands that the guy had a specific goal set and question he was asking for help with.
they were an okay budget option when i first built my pc back in 2018 😂
Bro just cracked his screen for the dramatic effect
I had Athlon before, I would never recommend it.
I used it back on my old pc and it died after 6 years.
Performance is TERRIBLE, not even basic capcut editing can perform normally without lagging.
Gaming is almost impossible, GTA V with absolute lowest settings possible, its so slow.
So yea after the cpu died, I bought a pre-built with a Ryzen 5 4500, GTX 1650, 16 GB RAM DDR4 3200MHZ.
This is good enough for basic capcut editing skills. Im happy with it :)
I am an old enough person to remember athlons, and I distinctly remember them being favoured over intel processors because they were easier to overclock
My cousin paired the ryzen 5 2600 with GTX 1660 super with 16gb of ram it runs really well, it averages at 80-90 fps on genshin max graphics.
My first CPU was the FX6300. 3 core 6 thread with the gtx 1060ssc with 6gb vram and 8gb ram. It ran 1080p pretty well giving me playable 90fps on max settings in Destiny 2 back in 2016. The total build cost was $650 with $300 coming from the GPU. The CPU and motherboard (microATX) were $150, PSU was $50, case was $50, 8gb 2 sticks DDR3 ram was $47, 120gb SSD was $44. I wish we could have those prices again .-.
And for some reason my father was always a fan of Athlon and all AMD/ATI products
Our first ever PC was built on Athlon 900
Make sure to include the Ryzen 4070 as well as it’s an insane budget GPU
I got an Athlon 3000g brand new for $50 (Canadian) from best buy a few years back, I think they are quite capable processors.
I mean the Athlon 64 x2 6000+ competed with the Core 2 Duo E8400 in performance back in the day. So they certainly had some good ones for that time. These days its on par with pentiums and celerons.
"Almost all of them sucked"
Was the performance leading CPU back in the days
It's crazy how the turns have tabled for intel
With the pc he was provided, I'd recommend replacing the thermal paste and cleaning out the pc, then install a custom iso to get the max performance of that old athlon,
I remember i bought a Ryzen 2600 for 20 dollars cause some of the pins were bent 😅. They were easy to unbend and worked really well.
It depends on which platform the athlon is on. If it's AM3+, bro might be able to add a budget gpu and be able to play the sims 4, and if the motherboard and PSU allows, slot in a FX at a later date as a cheap upgrade
in 2011 i built a pc wirh an athlon II 640 and 4gb of ddr3 ram. it was a pretty rippin' machine! i used it until 2019 with a few upgrades here and there
athlon cpus are totally alright considering their super-budget price range, hell I used a 3000g for years with few problems. they're reliable, have some wiggle room for overclocking if you're careful, and most importantly, you can switch it out with a better cpu down the line when you have the money. it's obviously not the *only* route for a budget computer, but it's your best bet if you are intent on new components
Funny how bro is absolutely getting roasted for not paying attention to the question!
I had an Athlon in one of my first PCs. That was back in 2002. Good PC, had a whole 64Mb of VRAM, so good for gaming.
Yeah that was twenty-two years ago. Move on. Don't try to build something with a chip from that era in 2024.
@@guyman1570 I didn't. I built my new pc with a Ryzen 7600x about a month ago.
I just thought it'd be fun to share some PC history.
Bro took it personal
Athlon for a low end and budget option is pretty good. You can pair something like an Athlon x4 760k ($10) with gt 1030 2gb Gddr5 ($40).
I had an Athlon XP 2200 in the mid 2000s. I didn’t knew Athlon was still around.
It may be hard to find, but the ryzen 1600af is also a insane budget cpu
Saying that Athlon was never an Option for gaming is Bullshit.
I started gaming on PC with Intel (Pentium MMX), I had a Duron afterwards, Athlon, Pentium 4, FX-6300.
The last one I got fro free so In do not mind the brand.
I used the FX-6300 with an RX 570 for Gaming.
I changed to Ryzen 7 7700 in April, still with the RX 570.
It depends on the titles you want to play and you cannot expect high framerates of course.
Both for the FX and Ryzen, the diffrence is that with titles that use more CPU Power you have way more stable Framerates.
When you depend on a cheap CPU, you won't by the latest games on steam. Maybe Epic games, that are for free every week that need more CPU Power.
But I agree with the conclusion.
I would not start buidling a gaming PC with an Athlon, or only when I get the parts for free or pocket money at maximum.
The first PC I built was an Athlon 64 machine and it was great. ATHLON 64 was the first 64bit cpu for the average consumer. Intel was still messing about with 32bit.
My dad still runs an Athlon x4 does it's job at browsing the web. Had it for 9 years i don't see him change it for the next 5 years xd
The Athlon 2 was recommended spec prior to ryzen launch, and what I ran it on an amd 64 back at launch.
Dlc packs may up the requirements but it should run the base game on windows xp.
I think he got a free HP Pavilion with an AMD Athlon 2 and he wants to give this PC for his wife just to play Sims 4. I think Zach misunderstood what the guy was trying to say.
I want to build my first pc and i think am going with AMD's APU which is R5 8600g and for future proofing i will invest in RTX 4060Ti, am i doing well ?
Love ur content keep it up my man❤
Can you do a short explanation on Athlon CPUs ?
despite my pc being 9 years old and having gtx 750 and ryzem rm 6100 its still a fighter
probably bc it has 32 gigs ram
Had a Athlon 64 3200+ back in the days and it was great
My first scrap rig was a athlon 200ge with a single stick of 8gb ram, ive upgraded ofc
There's no point in asking him a question anymore...