432Hz VS 440Hz - An Ambient Guitar Shootout!
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2018
- I've gotten so many questions about using a tuning standard of 432Hz that I decided to do an "Ambient Guitar Shootout" to compare it with 440Hz. Listen and decide which you prefer!
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Version 1 starts at 1:55
Version 2 starts at 3:15
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Version 1: 1:55
Version 2: 3:15
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440 sounded more aggressive/energetic and the first version of 432 sound more calm.
Agreed
Right: I honestly didn’t catch the frequency difference per se,
but I got the impression that the 432 gave an effect of
more sympathetic resonance (i.e. a hair closer to tiorba).
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Exactly the same
I preferred version one. It seemed calmer and seemed to have less bothersome overtones. This was a very interesting exercise.
I'm a musician with 18 years of experience in guitars - I was able to tell right away which was which. Surprisingly, I felt the 432hz version sounded better. Maybe we should explore 432hz more in recordings.
Amen!
Don't quit your day job. Sorry. Wow at all these comments! The tunings were exactly the same each track. OMG!
The comparison was nice but it would be fair if he would have plaid a whole song. Play a whole song, best test is a piano for my opinion and you will see that in most of the songs you hear many notes off harmony.
Interesting trivia: a lot of the Beatles recordings are in 430-432.
RETARDED ZOMBIES, first learn then DISCERN. The destruction of harmonies and melody and frequencies STILL going the results is a planet of ZZZZZZZZOMBIESZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
I didn't know Ser Davos Seaworth was such a good guitar player
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This was obviously before losing his fingertips :)
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"'Cause every body Hertz, sometime".
There was a pulsating in the sound on the second one. Like a warble in volume every 0.5 seconds on certain notes, but not all. The first sounded clearer.
The second version felt a little unnerving, like in an old horror movie. Idk why
I preffer the 1st one, it felt warmer, like a hug.
Maybe theres a reason it changed..... even if the song is good, its not as harmonious and thus probably increases negative feelings and effects maybe?
I wonder what it would be like to have modern songs converted to 432 somehow
Probably confirmation bias. You've probably already bought into the idea of 432hz tuning being "warmer, like a hug", subsequently you've decided that's how it sounds when really they sound more or less the same. Yes the human ear does apparently receive it slightly better, but the difference you're describing is irrational. It's the same piece of music, so they couldn't possibly evoke such drastically different impressions.
Did you arrive at that conclusion before or after he told you which version was which?
To be fair, it's easy to tell given that you most likely noticed the change in pitch (some people can't).
Just my 8 cents, fam.
Same here. It's perfectly noticeable to me. I think it might be one of those things that some people are sensitive to and others aren't.
For me it was the opposite
my nigga it sounded the same
Okay, so that's pretty interesting:
I played whole video near my cat. During version 1 it behaved casually, but when version 2 started playing the cat raised it's ears and I noticed it's strange look towards the speakers. I could not believe it's just because of frequency difference. I started again from version 1 and noticed the same thing. Even when choosing randomly my cat reacted consistently. It's just so strange
440 evoked more emotions in cat. 432 was boring for cat it ignored it.
I compose music in 440 I think it's more emotional imho , sparks anger, anxiety, happiness, sadness,all emotions
Not bland, boring or monotone
@@JaredDeinlein cats dont react the same way we do to music, its possible that the cat felt more harmonius to the sounds 432 hz gave and more dissonance towards the 440 hz.
@@GuanTones their ears and senses are different true . They hear sounds i dont even hear
My sons cat did not care. If I play certain Heilung Pagan music he gets restless and walks around screaming otherwise he doesn't care. Maybe your cat is a musician
Version 1 was more sedate and calming while version 2 held anxiety. Wow I never would have thought.
“5:10 Sometimes his tuning can be off by 8 cents” meaning what??? That what he claims is 432 is 440 or Vice versa???? His name being chords of orion must not be over looked.
This FELT like deception. It did not RING TRUE. CYMATICS occurring inside when things RESONATE and VIBE with you.
Notice all these sayings have to do with a vibe.
Be careful what you believe. I think you WILL be surprised when you test the hertz of this. .... which surely he has done .... and so listen closely when he reveals the truth of what lies within. 5:10
Suppressing 432 is far more important than most realize.
Sound. resonance. Vibration. Cymatics.
Ignoring the so called cosmic he says? Yes let’s not mention that which uplifts and overwhelming proves the importance and incredible symmetry. Beauty. And synchronicity that awaits when in tune.
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I thought the opposite
It's pretty clear that the second one is higher, brighter. It sounds more in tune since I'm used to music in this tuning. Higher tuning normally requires higher tension in the strings, I don't know whether that has any ramification with our perception. Version one is lower, bit more sombre and melancholic. I really think it depends on what mood you are looking for in the music.
agreed!
It might also depend on the resonance of your room.
@@rh4009 Not only the resonance of the room but how about what audio system they are listening to it through. A phone''s speaker? A laptop with tiny speakers and a cheesy sound chip? A computer in a top-of-the-line recording studio? Each and every one will color the sound. For instance, my laptop's audio is so crappy that I hear no bass at ALL. I really hate it.
The second one made my head hurt. Almost chaotic.
432 is so much warmer, 440 just sounds more higher in the head and less clarity/warmth. I guessed it straight off, this is crazy stuff absolutely fascinating!
People prefer 432 Hz only because it is lower. Results would be the same if you would compare 432 Hz with, for example 420 Hz. Then 420 Hz would sound deeper, warmer, etc. No magic here :)
@@Lascarnn Not correct!
You need to use a fretless acoustic instrument like a harp or a violin to really enjoy 432Hz.
Or at least an accoustic guitar with Just Intonated frets - NOT a guitar or a piano etc built for equal temperament.
The natural wood will resonate better at 432Hz because it is divisible by 2, 3, 4 and 6 (NOT 5)
at A4=432Hz
C2 will be 128Hz
D2 will be 144Hz
Sounds will be more pleasant.
Generally human beings enjoy slowmotion videos, slow sounds, slow movements. It relaxes the nervous system.
I agree with you. The 440 sounded a little more "brassy" or "bright" to me. The 432 was smoother and more relaxing to me whereas the 440 had a little aggressive feel to it/not so relaxing. Kind of like a tube amp (432) vs a solid state amp (440), in my opinion.
@@Lascarnn exactlyyyyyy
I've just released an extended ambient guitar meditation using A 432Hz tuning. Check it out and let me know what you think: ruclips.net/video/_QOMY935kQc/видео.html ALSO: I refer to "8 cents" towards the end of the video. I meant to say "8 hertz". Sorry about that!
version 2. v1 sounded a bit jangly to my ears. v2 was immediately different. more in harmony with itself (if that makes sense).
I also like both, I agree it depends on the context. For singing classic Rock I do use flat tunning cause it helps me singing treble parts (I'm a baritone) and I really enjoy the extra heaviness. For ambient guitar it really depends if the tune is "darker" or "brighter" (at least to my ear). Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts, Bill!!
Both sound great to me. I guess it depends on what mood yer in or what the situation is. When I play ambient guitar I tend try different settings fer my delay. I always keep an open mind and try a lot of different and you can probably tell if you've seen all my videos. Thanx fer sharin' this. Keep up the good work!
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I could feel the first one radiating from my heart and the 2nd one was more in my head
Ohhh same I thought it is just me
Well good to know
Same here
The second I felt in the pit of my stomach. I don’t actually ‘hear’ much of a difference. I find this really interesting
bruh.. same here.. I thought it was just me.. the 2nd one makes me feel like i am having weird a light headache... and the 1st one is just.. natural ..crazy
Same!!
First one felt more internal, more playing towards warmth. Second felt more like music getting pushed outward. very fun, thank you!
The first recording in 432Hz is so obviously more harmonic and uplifting …massive differents to my ear …432Hz all the way 👍 like the video ..interesting subject !!!
I found it interesting that I wanted to skip past the second one after about a minute because it started grating on me. I found it more interesting to discover it was the 432 tuning that I preferred. What I'd really like to hear are some well known songs compared rather than ambient drones. I do enjoy this type of music, but I think it would be a more fair comparison to hear something people know how the original sounds already. Happy birthday, for example - or Penny Lane - something that has a wide appreciation. Thanks for the cool vid ✌️
I skipped 2nd one after 1 minute
@@billordaf9510 Me too!
I can point you towards a specific video i use for meditation. An hour long of classical guitar playing at 432hz
With the first note of each version, I could tell immediately that the first one was my preference. Thank you for the demo ❤️👍
I just happened to stumbled on this. As a non trained musician I can feel the 432 version like a "depth" sensation and the 440 version as a "disperse" sensation. I'm loving this.
Yes! Great description!
Yup. Felt it immediately
I agree.
that is the best description i have heard
This is crazy, I was hearing both songs distractingly with headphones while doing something else on the main screen.
The first one felt very organic, almost as if it was just a nice background and I could not hear it. Nice, calming vibes.
As soon as the second tuning started the mood changed very steeply, I started noticing the music tone more but it also carried some anxiety with it.
Incredible.
It's always important what was the first one. Music is very relative to our ears.
The second one my skin broke out in boils and the wife left me, and the first one my ex wife's skin broke out in boils and I got a check in the mail.
Funny, I had the exact same reaction.
That's enough proof for me.
Haha. Best reply ever.
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Dude I could literally fall asleep to the sound of that guitar playing. So peaceful
Huge thanks, a great comparison. V1 felt so soothing, I literally felt into my chair within the first second. V2 felt unnerving ASAP, I would compare it to listening to the traffic, it was unsettling.
Before I knew anything about this subject, I've always intuitively gravitated towards '432Hz soundings'. This frequency seems to have more depth. Feels profound. 440Hz sounds quite superficial in comparison, it doesn't reach the same level. That's my personal opinion, of course. People are different.
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Idk if they are yk
I said something like solid an massive, you said depth! You got it right!
I think I prefer the 440 waaayyyy les dissonant!
Learn about sacred geometry, the number 432 has an intergalactic relation to us and theres endless parallells between life and these numbers.
2nd versions sounds relaxing af. Makes me wanna sleep with the lights turned on
DRENAMOW 😂 yah right
Same here, I felt the second one was more relaxing. The first one seemed darker.
same, the first one felt eerie. the second was comfy af
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I really felt uncomfortable listening the 2nd version at 440Hz.... I wasn't expecting that.
Rikke big difference
I feel like different sounds sound better or worse at different hertz. Cuz i watched a video and the 440 sounded way better but this one I liked 432 better
@That Guy From Legendary Axe there are some sounds that can induce nausea to some yes. for example in the movie irreversable some technique like this was used to make the user feel uncomfortable on purpose during certain scenes in the movie.
>>the feels were real
Me too! I felt a bunch of strange pressure force coming seemingly from the direction of the guitar that pushed through my nerves uncomfortably. Very strange.
This was super helpful and also calming!
They both were nice. In their own way . I agree. I preferred version 2. It made my body tingle like a cresscendo with each chord. The first did feel more on the eery...in that the chord died or faded away faster. My first time commenting brother. Thank you for the lesson. Blessings to you n yours From Arizona. Ty
Surprisingly noticeable difference. I found version 1 more calming and felt like being wrapped in a blanket and version 2 was more familiar sounding and had a sense of optimism.
Would seem obvious to me that version 2 was more familiar sounding ...
exactly the same for me!
I feel 440 more in the bones behind my ear. I feel 432 in the flesh. Both have uses IMO, depending on whether the music is intended to be calm and relaxing, or sharp and energetic (ooh... an accidental 440 pun!) Well done, beautiful use of your effects. Thick but not overbearing.
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Agreed.🤗
As it's evening here, I preferred the first version, it had a warmer and ethereal sound, the second version was more familiar to me, so it got me up like "hey, wake up and get lifted in the wind"
such a big difference, version 1st carries me almost into meditation, the 2nd one is really uncomfortable even after 3 seconds, there is dissonance I don't know if the guitar was slightly out of tune or what! I'm gonna try my own experiment and maybe I'll post it
There was a dissonance because you were adjusted to another tuning with the first piece. If you want an honest comparison you should play both versions on different times of the day. It may also depend on which version you hear first. Playing a lower tuning after a higher one may have different results than starting with the higher tuning.
Imagine playing them both at the same time lol
I agree,, and i also listened separately too... By hours... To make sure.
Yah. I felt nauseous on second tuning. First one felt divine.
Yap, totally. it took me 15 sek to FEEL the answer.
Well, no matter which one people like more or less, it seems quite impressing how people feel a difference at all.
When people tuned by ear, I think music was more diverse somehow. Maybe some musicians tuning their instruments just right, could make people feel something that others couldn't, because they would tune differently.
Impressive!
Man, I like your energy and your approach. Thanks for sharing.
432 definitely had more of a Buddhist temple feel. Time to buy a copper bowl I guess lol
:-)
Funny you should say that Albert. My friend has a Tibetan singing bowl and I took my guitar tuner with me to measure the bowl's tone, and his singing bowl was tuned to 432Hz, which was mad really because I doubt that the singing bowls that the monks make are calibrated to 432Hz. Those particular bowls were hand made and I can't imagine that they know about the 432 thing.
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So and XXX brought me here who else 😂
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Thank you for doing this. You helped me to understand so much more about my preference. I liked version 1 more.
Awesome vid, thanks for sharing
Somehow I knew from the first chords that version 1 was 432 Hz. Chords had more of a body and character. It's like version 1 catches more interest in the harmonics of the chords.
Glad I'm not the only one who responded like that.
This is why ALL my music (even my old music) has either been converted to, or is played in 432hz for the rest of my life. It vibrates within you and you don't just hear it, you feel it.
Bingo! Harmonics were surprisingly different. For some reason the harmonics sounded "compressed" at 440. 432 they "breathed". Not sure why that would be.
It's because 432Hz has 10 harmonics while 440Hz only 8
Nero Lenoir Please elaborate.
I could almost tell right away that 1 was 432. It felt soothing listening to the cords. I was sure when I heard 2. I fast fast FORWARD to the end of the video to see what you said.
very cool demonstration, Bill. thank you.
Version one was calming, Version 2 unsettling. I knew straight away that version 1 was 432
Same. A lot less tension.
for me it was the complete opposite
me too .. and i am as far from anything musical ... as possible :)
Same here
I heard the first string from the second Version and I got ear cancer
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I like 440 wtf
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Felt calmed by the first one and then the second made me feel a little queasy. Not sure if that’s because of the tuning or because by comparison it felt off after having just heard the first one.
zacklur I agree with you on the feeling uneasy part
zacklur exactly since A 440 is just slightly above 432 it messes with your bodies own vibrations.
This is why ALL my music (even my old music) has either been converted to, or is played in 432hz for the rest of my life. It vibrates within you and you don't just hear it, you feel it.
Same here.
I felt a smile spread across my face listening to Version 2.
It's like the first version sound deeper and more full of sound! ♡ ty
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Yeah wtf
Listening to the 1st version my headache went completely away and came back when listening to ver 2
ah fk off with that bullshit
I suspect the multitude of commentors saying that they "feel anxious" hearing the version in A440 are feeling like something's "off" about the A440 tuning version directly after listening to the A432 version, because the notes are close enough where hearing the change in tunings makes you think something's "wrong" with it since all the notes sound a little "sharp". There is a reason that all channels doing these sorts of comparisons will always play A432 first, if they are wanting to elicit favour for A432. (Likewise the other way around).
@@MCDreng dude thats actually right
Same here 🤯🤦🏽♂️
it has to do with the number nine. 4+3+2=9, a number that is Existent and nonexistent; has to do with numerology and math. 440 is the number 8. Churches back in the 1500s tuned their pipe organs to 432Hz which and the organ was the first Polyphonic instrument. Antonio Vivaldi, a priest and yes, THE Vivaldi used it. As did Fresco Baldi, Gabrielli and Bach ,followed by Handl. The church was set up inside in such a way that the resonance of this 15,000 pipe organ would ring out and feel other worldly to the point where if the planets were aligned on that specific day, such as they were on October 19th,1980 in the San Francisco church that Eric P Dollard (scientist) talks about, it created a field of sound energy. It comes from the Pathagorian era.
Man thats cool. Thanks for the video
Loved the way you showed the difference... we could only tell at the end before taking sides! i love your arragement for pedals as well; anywhere we can check that oyt; love the way your guitar sounds!! Chords Of Orion
Both good. I don't believe in the hype with regard to tunings, but I DO think your channel is great, because you go your own way, stick to what interests you (ambient, obviously) and make lovely calming music, which we all need these days :O)
you dont believe the hype in tunings so you can tune to -500 and it sounds good?
The difference in that interval is obviously much greater. It's not a realistic comparison.
to me it is night and day, and to you, you feel no difference at all. It could be the place you are listening to it in, or perhaps the place I am in is more tuned for 432, but 432 sounds all the difference in the world better to me. all the difference in the world better!!!
I prefer the first one. It has a calming effect😊
That was so beautiful.... it made me think of the expanse of the universe and the connection of us all to it... great video
Thanks for doing this !
It’s the first non bias comparison I came across
Version 1 definitely 432 hz.
440 hz feels more "anxious" sounding to me.
432 for me. I felt it as more etheric...
Im getting nervous and my heart beating faster on 440hz
Stupid.
@@killboybands1 Wow. Such a cerebral and intelligent response...
🧘♂️✨ Shall I dare retort?
There is actual science on how sonic vibrations can effect literally everything on the subatomic level. Check out "water memory" or sonic levitation...
@@JewTubeSux OK fair enough. I forgot that I even wrote that and I think I had a bit of red wine (or a lot). Just saying 'stupid' to the OP is not a very good response, it's not cerebral nor intelligent but (no offense) neither is your retort. But allow me to re-retort your retort with a more cerebral retortation. Here is just a few of the issues that I have with A 432 as some sort of ultimate tuning reference pitch. Now the response of OP valid. In fact it is likely to be the response of pretty much anyone listening to the above video because they are subjected to such a bizarre, arbitrary, and foreign pitch shift.
In this video, the second version is played immediately after the first one. This is a problem because the ear has fully established the tonality of the first version (of gentile tonal ambient chords no less) than he/she is subjected to an approximate 3/16th tone modulation???? (just shy of a 1/4tone) Of course, the second one is going to sound bizarre! If you played the second version first and then immediately played the first version 2nd the fist version would sound sour and slightly muddy until the ear acclimatizes to it. Also, these A/B tests never compare sophisticated harmonies that are the norm in genres like jazz, progressive rock, various classical genres or 12 tone/atonal music. No, It's always some simple guitar strumming some verygood easy on the ear chord progressions...etc. Since the 432 folks only see these videos through the lens of our 12 tone equal-tempered system than these types of musics should be required in these comparisons.... nor does it ever use world folk music.
Now, if you played A=425 and then immediately played the same music at 432 people's reactions would be the same. (Also because a slight detuning in pitch is generally with be associated with a 'warmer' sound).
You'd also get the same reactions if you played the same music in a key a 1/4 tone flat and then it in the original key but tuned to A=432. People would prefer the 1/4tone version because it's about 6 Hz lower than the A= 432 version. The funny thing about that is that 1/4tones version can still reference A 440 as it's reference pitch.
Also weather you tune A to 440 or 432 or anything else it won't matter if you play in a Key like F# because theoretically, A does not appear in that key.
Also all the videos claiming A=432 as some sort of divine tuning reference pitch make no inference to historical western tuning systems like the various mean-tone temperaments, well temperament, or enharmonic tunings of the renaissance or the countless variations of tunings in non-western music traditions like Indonesian Gamelan, Indian Carnatic music, African koras and marimbas, or Japanese Gagaku, Turkish Makam music ...etc. Or the infinite tuning possibilities with Just intonation. Nor does it hold water with the pitch drift that occurs in a cappella vocal music or non-fixed pitched instruments like string quartets or an Indian Sarod...etc.
Nor does it have any relation to alternate historical equal temperaments like 22, 31,41, 72...etc. All these systems' notes are different to that of our normal tuning system
It also fails when it comes to the stretch tuning employed in our pianos and the inharmonicity that occurs in a piano because of the high tension of the stings. Even more so with metallophones like vibraphones and xylophones that have even more inharmonic properties that make up their timbral structures.
You can prefer to tune your guitar or instruments to whatever you like. But the claims of 432 enthusiasts as it being some sort of super frequency utterly falls to pieces when measured against any musical system and it's historical development. it fails because it's impossible. ..what actually matters in harmonic and melodic music is the relationships between frequencies not their absolute frequencies.
Yes our body is mostly water but tuning your music 432hz has nothing to do with whether or not water has memory nor does it have anything to do with sonic levitation. Countless objects have resonant frequencies
A=432 is no better or worse than A=440 it's just another number that sits comfortably within our hearing range. There's no Advantage to tuning to 432. It's a hoax.
Wow, thank you for uploading this comparison! I am just finding out about this difference (of which I hadn't heard before) and, in my opinion, not only 432 sounds better, but 440 tends to "flatten" or expels the harmonics out, so to say. It is not a matter of fast vs slow, but of the harmonics you hear. Amazing!! 🙂🙂
thank you so much this was pretty much enlightening
Nice video- after seeing this discussed on one of my online guitar groups it's good to hear the direct comparison. I felt the first tuning very comfortable, but after hearing the first few notes of the second, my inner ear identified it as more familiar. I understand calibrating the tuning on my Snark would make trying this pretty simple. I need to play with this some time.
Thank you 😎
432 somehow sounded more dreamy to me. It's a pretty minor difference in the grand scheme of things, but I think if I was recording my own ambient material I'd go with the 432 tuning.
Ali FYI. 432 traditional from way back - Mozart. 440 introduced in 1950 by the infiltration of Nazi propagandist. 440 is dyharmonic to the human mind
432 is much more harmonious to my ear. 440 adds some disturbing feeling
432 hz is very special for music and for the well being of living beings =) I make 432 hz videos on my channel
Thank you Tristan! Someday I hope to keep improving at making the videos and at making better music for the camera. Im working on getting over the camera shyness so that i can bring you the music from my heart without all the messups in my playing because im too conscious of the camera. lol
Its cool to know that playing an instrument tuned to 432A can help heal the people around you... I play for mom and my girlfriends sometimes when they are sick or just in general.
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Awesome content. The #2 felt like it had tension, and #1 was pretty calming. I've just discovered that a song I produced some years ago, sounds so much better at 432hz, it's incredible. I'm gonna try retuning all my others songs to see how it goes
Which manufactures tuner will allow me to calibrate so that when I tune the A to 432 it translates across to the rest of the strings? ...or , which tuner will let me tune in hertz
I closed my eyes and listened to both, for me #1 was calm and relaxing, #2 felt anxious and I had a hard time focusing.
Wow, as soon as version 2 started I felt my body tense up. It was almost like I had to make an effort to breathe deeply and regularly.
I liked them both...Thank you for posting this. I did feel a little more centered/grounded/soothing during version one and a bit more agitated/in my head for the second version, though it is hard to know how much of that was due to my shift in focus...the second one has the first one to compare it to, so it makes sense my brain would engage in a different way to it. My tuning tends to get off regularly enough that I don't sweat it too much for actual play time, though I think the big picture implications are fascinating to contemplate... Maybe that's just because my brain has been steeping in 440Hz tuned music most of my life? lol Thanks again!
Great job, this concept blows my mind...it's real there is no disputing it in the context of the piece you played. I felt so moved and uplifted by v1 and v2 made me anxious....like country music. LOL...Ty.
There was a night and day difference between Version 1 & Version 2...
For me V1 sounded so ambient, rich & infinite, while V2 sounded held back, cold or in a box sounding.
Really liked the sound of your voice too Bill.
Thumbs up! 👍🏼
those two versions are WORLDS apart. The first version created a calm energetic dance within me, the second one felt flat and lifeless, and made me a little stressed.
think of this when turning the radio on.... or listening to any modern music....
version 2 sound more dramatic IMO
@@gernotfrohlich6978what non-modern music is not 440?
Exactly opposite for me. 440 is definitely brighter and more energetic. As for the "stress" or "anxiety" people are feeling. Your own preconceived notions do more to this than playing the same notes in a harmonious way 8hz apart.
@@timgrove7692 Simply because 440 is tonally higher and 432 lower. Higher - brighter
Awesome video man :)
Thanks for the demo and thank you for leaving out the cosmos jive.
Definitely liked the 2nd one more. It seemed less discordant and I could definitely hear a beat of about 2 Hz. I have played instruments all my life with the piano my goto for working out songs. So maybe the piano with its fixed pitches is the source of my 440 Hz preference. Maybe it is related to personality or thought processes. Some say 432 is of the heart and 440 of the mind. How many other engineers prefer A440?
I have played both for several people with a few notes in between to clear the ear in between and there was no marked preference. When I told them that the tone was 432 when actually playing 440 they liked the one I said was 432. Some folks want to be in tune with the pack.
Hi! I recognized the 432 hz immediately. Sounds different in my body. The 440 sounds great to my ears. I like both...although it "feels" different. I'll take de 440 . More comfortable ...I guess. 432 is.... weird though beautiful
Awesome Demonstration! I knew immediately when you started playing (V1) that it was 432. V2 - -440Hz is dissonant to the ears and the mind in comparison. That´s why it was done in 1939 to set the standard to A-440Hz. It aggravates people, stresses the mind and biology. The proof is in the pudding. Blessings.
Version 1 was more tranquil and had a meditative vibe to it.
It's always important what was the first one. Music is very relative to our ears.
You can convert music using a fast Fourier transform to do it without changing the tempo or speed. You'd just take all the frequencies, and move them down, and reconstruct the signal. I think that would work. I'll have to play around with it..
First version feels relaxed and laid back.
Second version feels tense and fearful.
I describe v 2 like a panic kind of tone.
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i can say how i felt listening to both. the first i was mesmerised by the sound, the quality of effect, deeply emotional. In the second, I didn't fall in love with the sound, and actually my back was hurting me, and oh man my legs are stiff, i could barely sit in my chair from discomfort.
Whn I feel the music of first version sound arose some things scary but whn I feel second version it sound harmony can any one tell why the frequency made so to felt me like that
I prefer A-432, because my human nature leads me to take a greater interest in things which are new and different from the norm. I therefore prefer to frame my experience of A-432 in a more positive light, as the contrast to the more conventional A-440 satisfies this need . All of my perceptions will also be tilted towards this opinion, consciously or not.
My thoughts and feelings:
1st version: It's soft and calming. It made me want to fall asleep and just imagine I'm floating on water. I feel like I'm in a trance in a way. It's just so peaceful.
2nd version: I immediately thought it sunded horrible and out of tune when it started. It has a annoying sound to it that i can't explain but it's not bad overall. It does sound pretty and nice but it woke me up and alerted me. My heart beat when up in this version.
LOL, the 1st would be the worse one if the 2nd starts first. Try it. It's everything relative.
It might be my ears playing tricks on me but I heard more of a chorus type effect in version two. Both sounded beautiful.
The strings performed differently in each frequency. The 432 string nuance made themselves known and spoke to me. Thanks for sharing.
432 is "darker", more "calm" when compared side by side with 440, but when played apart by, say, an hour you really can not tell anything different with your ear....but with your feelings the 432 WILL have a more relaxing effect.
I done experiments a few years back on this "bull" (as I called it then) and the results was affirmative that 432 made my friends, and myself, feel more "relaxed", "non-edgy".....a LOT of "feeling terms" where tossed out.
As for the "cosmic" claims, I don't know. But FOR MYSELF, the evidence says that there is some physical reaction to the two turnings, not for Rock or music with a driving beat, but for music that is calmer in the first place.....
Smurf431 it's all about your energy vibrations...that's why it Feels better!
I thought version two felt more natural.
we are made of mostly water and react to harmonic symmetric frequencies, so does our brain. the creator's encoding makes us the creation feel good since its harmonized.
A/m is already depressing enough in 440, that's my two cents.
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I think E chord is a B on a baritone as it’s a 4th lower. Sounds like B to me
Pjr J I asked a friend back in the 90s why alternative music left me feeling melancholy. He explained it was the way they tuned their guitars. He said pianos were tuned to a standard of 440 and the grunge bands tuned their instruments to about 400. Combining that with all flat singing notes made me turn to hip hop. That wasn't a much better experience for the long term either.
432 hz is very special for music and for the well being of living beings =) I make 432 hz videos on my channel
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Wow this was pretty neat come across thos video trying to figure out why my piano was clearly in tune.... but it felt off...
Hi. Actually going up in frequency immediately from one to another, produces bright impression, that may alter perception when comparing. Maybe an interruption in between the two is needed to de-tune the ear?
Thank you Bill, I don't know if you have read my comment like 3 days ago about 432hz on the other channel, but I feel like you answered it. I particularly tune my acoustic guitar in 432hz and I feel it speaks to my emotions. I like it better. Love from Brazil!
I liked the first one. Somehow I could feel it was at 432. Pretty cool
Would love to know the basic equipment needed to make the sounds from this clip??
Thanks all!
All the gear I used on this video is listed in the video description. Also, I have a free ambient guitar course video for the concepts: ruclips.net/video/SkHNF33pmEU/видео.html
I love this very objective comparison. I liked the first one better, especially the third main note.
Closing my eyes and listening. I noticed my breathing rate increase on the second one. Louder faster and more intrusive.
I actually liked the second one more
I recently tuned to 432 and find it a much better tuning. I don’t seem to get fatigued when playing or writing music, I feel more energised. I easily picked the difference in your test here 👍😎
i didnt know which was which, but i definitely intuitively liked the 1st one better!
I think the difference in tuning is inconsequential and that it's the differences in the performances that is what is noticeable.
I have to agree!
I like version 1 better. It moved me. Had more feeling. The second version gave me a irritation. A bit scary.
I think seeing the tone difference in water or sand structures would be more revealing.
Very interesting... listening to both, without knowing - after listening to version 1, version 2 just sounded really out of tune and just didn't sit right. So, since I work with 440 all day long, I figured 432 was version 2. You got me! So freaking interesting. thx for the vid :)
I love it. Thank you somuch
You're welcome!!
440Hz seems to modulate more. 432Hz actually sounds more natural. I'm very surprised!
@Basir nonsense. It's just a point of reference, a place to start. Nobody hangs out at 440....music is dynamic, and always moving and changing.
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Yes. 432 hz harmonizes with more frequencies found in nature. It's the natural scale.
@@kfox153 What exactly do you mean by ''music is dynamic, and always moving and changing''? Do you mean in different songs and genres, or do you mean that frequency changes in one song? Because the 2nd one is incorrect. Each song has a specific frequency that is fixed. If a frequency changed during one song, you would immediately notice a different pitch, the song would sound broken, like an old record or missing a note. Maybe in live music it's more possible for the frequency to change, but in commercial music that are recorded in a studio, the frequency stays the same for the whole song.
From the first few notes, I "felt" the 432. No. 2, the 440hz, seemed brighter, but slightly grating. Was it my imagination at work?
could also b the the order they were heard. if 440hz was 1st, who knows if the way u felt would have been the same?
It sounds "brighter" because it is brighter, because 440 is slightly higher in pitch. Higher pitches sound brighter, lower pitches sound warmer. If you want your music to be way warmer, detune the guitar by a half step or more (which is one of several reasons so many guitarists do this). There's nothing special about 432. Its just an arbitrary number pulled from nowhere by people trying to sell you snake oil.
Good point!
erm no, nothing arbitrary about it. 432 is a mathematical anomaly. Do some research.
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I think the clashing overtone ringing sounds moves slower in 432hz than in 440hz thus making everything sound calmer and smoother, does this make sense?
Very useful!