I'm a musician with 18 years of experience in guitars - I was able to tell right away which was which. Surprisingly, I felt the 432hz version sounded better. Maybe we should explore 432hz more in recordings.
The comparison was nice but it would be fair if he would have plaid a whole song. Play a whole song, best test is a piano for my opinion and you will see that in most of the songs you hear many notes off harmony.
RETARDED ZOMBIES, first learn then DISCERN. The destruction of harmonies and melody and frequencies STILL going the results is a planet of ZZZZZZZZOMBIESZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Right: I honestly didn’t catch the frequency difference per se, but I got the impression that the 432 gave an effect of more sympathetic resonance (i.e. a hair closer to tiorba).
Maybe theres a reason it changed..... even if the song is good, its not as harmonious and thus probably increases negative feelings and effects maybe? I wonder what it would be like to have modern songs converted to 432 somehow
Probably confirmation bias. You've probably already bought into the idea of 432hz tuning being "warmer, like a hug", subsequently you've decided that's how it sounds when really they sound more or less the same. Yes the human ear does apparently receive it slightly better, but the difference you're describing is irrational. It's the same piece of music, so they couldn't possibly evoke such drastically different impressions. Did you arrive at that conclusion before or after he told you which version was which? To be fair, it's easy to tell given that you most likely noticed the change in pitch (some people can't). Just my 8 cents, fam.
432 is so much warmer, 440 just sounds more higher in the head and less clarity/warmth. I guessed it straight off, this is crazy stuff absolutely fascinating!
People prefer 432 Hz only because it is lower. Results would be the same if you would compare 432 Hz with, for example 420 Hz. Then 420 Hz would sound deeper, warmer, etc. No magic here :)
@@Lascarnn Not correct! You need to use a fretless acoustic instrument like a harp or a violin to really enjoy 432Hz. Or at least an accoustic guitar with Just Intonated frets - NOT a guitar or a piano etc built for equal temperament. The natural wood will resonate better at 432Hz because it is divisible by 2, 3, 4 and 6 (NOT 5) at A4=432Hz C2 will be 128Hz D2 will be 144Hz Sounds will be more pleasant.
I agree with you. The 440 sounded a little more "brassy" or "bright" to me. The 432 was smoother and more relaxing to me whereas the 440 had a little aggressive feel to it/not so relaxing. Kind of like a tube amp (432) vs a solid state amp (440), in my opinion.
There was a pulsating in the sound on the second one. Like a warble in volume every 0.5 seconds on certain notes, but not all. The first sounded clearer.
Okay, so that's pretty interesting: I played whole video near my cat. During version 1 it behaved casually, but when version 2 started playing the cat raised it's ears and I noticed it's strange look towards the speakers. I could not believe it's just because of frequency difference. I started again from version 1 and noticed the same thing. Even when choosing randomly my cat reacted consistently. It's just so strange
@@JaredDeinlein cats dont react the same way we do to music, its possible that the cat felt more harmonius to the sounds 432 hz gave and more dissonance towards the 440 hz.
My sons cat did not care. If I play certain Heilung Pagan music he gets restless and walks around screaming otherwise he doesn't care. Maybe your cat is a musician
It's pretty clear that the second one is higher, brighter. It sounds more in tune since I'm used to music in this tuning. Higher tuning normally requires higher tension in the strings, I don't know whether that has any ramification with our perception. Version one is lower, bit more sombre and melancholic. I really think it depends on what mood you are looking for in the music.
@@rh4009 Not only the resonance of the room but how about what audio system they are listening to it through. A phone''s speaker? A laptop with tiny speakers and a cheesy sound chip? A computer in a top-of-the-line recording studio? Each and every one will color the sound. For instance, my laptop's audio is so crappy that I hear no bass at ALL. I really hate it.
Before I knew anything about this subject, I've always intuitively gravitated towards '432Hz soundings'. This frequency seems to have more depth. Feels profound. 440Hz sounds quite superficial in comparison, it doesn't reach the same level. That's my personal opinion, of course. People are different.
I just happened to stumbled on this. As a non trained musician I can feel the 432 version like a "depth" sensation and the 440 version as a "disperse" sensation. I'm loving this.
Agreed. The best description I’ve ever read on this. Couldn’t put it into words myself. The 440 also feels not just like dispersement but to shed or cast off. While the 442 feels like taking in, or feeling inward.
Surprisingly noticeable difference. I found version 1 more calming and felt like being wrapped in a blanket and version 2 was more familiar sounding and had a sense of optimism.
I feel 440 more in the bones behind my ear. I feel 432 in the flesh. Both have uses IMO, depending on whether the music is intended to be calm and relaxing, or sharp and energetic (ooh... an accidental 440 pun!) Well done, beautiful use of your effects. Thick but not overbearing.
As it's evening here, I preferred the first version, it had a warmer and ethereal sound, the second version was more familiar to me, so it got me up like "hey, wake up and get lifted in the wind"
This is crazy, I was hearing both songs distractingly with headphones while doing something else on the main screen. The first one felt very organic, almost as if it was just a nice background and I could not hear it. Nice, calming vibes. As soon as the second tuning started the mood changed very steeply, I started noticing the music tone more but it also carried some anxiety with it. Incredible.
I found it interesting that I wanted to skip past the second one after about a minute because it started grating on me. I found it more interesting to discover it was the 432 tuning that I preferred. What I'd really like to hear are some well known songs compared rather than ambient drones. I do enjoy this type of music, but I think it would be a more fair comparison to hear something people know how the original sounds already. Happy birthday, for example - or Penny Lane - something that has a wide appreciation. Thanks for the cool vid ✌️
such a big difference, version 1st carries me almost into meditation, the 2nd one is really uncomfortable even after 3 seconds, there is dissonance I don't know if the guitar was slightly out of tune or what! I'm gonna try my own experiment and maybe I'll post it
There was a dissonance because you were adjusted to another tuning with the first piece. If you want an honest comparison you should play both versions on different times of the day. It may also depend on which version you hear first. Playing a lower tuning after a higher one may have different results than starting with the higher tuning.
I've just released an extended ambient guitar meditation using A 432Hz tuning. Check it out and let me know what you think: ruclips.net/video/_QOMY935kQc/видео.html ALSO: I refer to "8 cents" towards the end of the video. I meant to say "8 hertz". Sorry about that!
I also like both, I agree it depends on the context. For singing classic Rock I do use flat tunning cause it helps me singing treble parts (I'm a baritone) and I really enjoy the extra heaviness. For ambient guitar it really depends if the tune is "darker" or "brighter" (at least to my ear). Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts, Bill!!
Both sound great to me. I guess it depends on what mood yer in or what the situation is. When I play ambient guitar I tend try different settings fer my delay. I always keep an open mind and try a lot of different and you can probably tell if you've seen all my videos. Thanx fer sharin' this. Keep up the good work!
“5:10 Sometimes his tuning can be off by 8 cents” meaning what??? That what he claims is 432 is 440 or Vice versa???? His name being chords of orion must not be over looked. This FELT like deception. It did not RING TRUE. CYMATICS occurring inside when things RESONATE and VIBE with you. Notice all these sayings have to do with a vibe.
Be careful what you believe. I think you WILL be surprised when you test the hertz of this. .... which surely he has done .... and so listen closely when he reveals the truth of what lies within. 5:10 Suppressing 432 is far more important than most realize. Sound. resonance. Vibration. Cymatics. Ignoring the so called cosmic he says? Yes let’s not mention that which uplifts and overwhelming proves the importance and incredible symmetry. Beauty. And synchronicity that awaits when in tune.
I could almost tell right away that 1 was 432. It felt soothing listening to the cords. I was sure when I heard 2. I fast fast FORWARD to the end of the video to see what you said.
bruh.. same here.. I thought it was just me.. the 2nd one makes me feel like i am having weird a light headache... and the 1st one is just.. natural ..crazy
Somehow I knew from the first chords that version 1 was 432 Hz. Chords had more of a body and character. It's like version 1 catches more interest in the harmonics of the chords.
This is why ALL my music (even my old music) has either been converted to, or is played in 432hz for the rest of my life. It vibrates within you and you don't just hear it, you feel it.
Bingo! Harmonics were surprisingly different. For some reason the harmonics sounded "compressed" at 440. 432 they "breathed". Not sure why that would be.
Felt calmed by the first one and then the second made me feel a little queasy. Not sure if that’s because of the tuning or because by comparison it felt off after having just heard the first one.
This is why ALL my music (even my old music) has either been converted to, or is played in 432hz for the rest of my life. It vibrates within you and you don't just hear it, you feel it.
432 somehow sounded more dreamy to me. It's a pretty minor difference in the grand scheme of things, but I think if I was recording my own ambient material I'd go with the 432 tuning.
Thank you Tristan! Someday I hope to keep improving at making the videos and at making better music for the camera. Im working on getting over the camera shyness so that i can bring you the music from my heart without all the messups in my playing because im too conscious of the camera. lol
Its cool to know that playing an instrument tuned to 432A can help heal the people around you... I play for mom and my girlfriends sometimes when they are sick or just in general.
Well, no matter which one people like more or less, it seems quite impressing how people feel a difference at all. When people tuned by ear, I think music was more diverse somehow. Maybe some musicians tuning their instruments just right, could make people feel something that others couldn't, because they would tune differently. Impressive!
Funny you should say that Albert. My friend has a Tibetan singing bowl and I took my guitar tuner with me to measure the bowl's tone, and his singing bowl was tuned to 432Hz, which was mad really because I doubt that the singing bowls that the monks make are calibrated to 432Hz. Those particular bowls were hand made and I can't imagine that they know about the 432 thing.
i am clairsentient, i listened to this 3 times..version 1 no issues, version 2 (the first time) stabbing pain in my left brain, 2nd time irritability, 3rd time, beginnings of panic attack, hard to breath and teary. I was so worried that I may get it wrong, and i am beyond relieved to know that I can trust my body. It has only been a year since I realized how sensitive and in tune I am, so I am happy to 'pass' this test.Thank you so much for provinding this. I had already changed 600+ songs to 432hz :)
I prefer A-432, because my human nature leads me to take a greater interest in things which are new and different from the norm. I therefore prefer to frame my experience of A-432 in a more positive light, as the contrast to the more conventional A-440 satisfies this need . All of my perceptions will also be tilted towards this opinion, consciously or not.
They both were nice. In their own way . I agree. I preferred version 2. It made my body tingle like a cresscendo with each chord. The first did feel more on the eery...in that the chord died or faded away faster. My first time commenting brother. Thank you for the lesson. Blessings to you n yours From Arizona. Ty
Huge thanks, a great comparison. V1 felt so soothing, I literally felt into my chair within the first second. V2 felt unnerving ASAP, I would compare it to listening to the traffic, it was unsettling.
432 is "darker", more "calm" when compared side by side with 440, but when played apart by, say, an hour you really can not tell anything different with your ear....but with your feelings the 432 WILL have a more relaxing effect. I done experiments a few years back on this "bull" (as I called it then) and the results was affirmative that 432 made my friends, and myself, feel more "relaxed", "non-edgy".....a LOT of "feeling terms" where tossed out. As for the "cosmic" claims, I don't know. But FOR MYSELF, the evidence says that there is some physical reaction to the two turnings, not for Rock or music with a driving beat, but for music that is calmer in the first place.....
we are made of mostly water and react to harmonic symmetric frequencies, so does our brain. the creator's encoding makes us the creation feel good since its harmonized.
This is truly amazing, came across a video about 432Hz and I wanted to do more research on it. Once you played the 432Hz version, it felt so peaceful, I felt the music connect to my heart and mind...it feels amazing, sounds amazing. I am in love with 432Hz. Thank you for sharing the video !
Awesome Demonstration! I knew immediately when you started playing (V1) that it was 432. V2 - -440Hz is dissonant to the ears and the mind in comparison. That´s why it was done in 1939 to set the standard to A-440Hz. It aggravates people, stresses the mind and biology. The proof is in the pudding. Blessings.
They both sound basically the same to me. I suspect the multitude of commentors saying that they "feel anxious" hearing the version in A440 are feeling like something's "off" about the A440 tuning version directly after listening to the A432 version, because the notes are close enough where hearing the change in tunings makes you think something's "wrong" with it since all the notes sound a little "sharp". There is a reason that all channels doing these sorts of comparisons will always play A432 first, if they are wanting to elicit favour for A432. (Likewise the other way around). Once you get used to the "normal" of the first playing, you find the change to sharper notes jarring. My experience with this video (perfect pitch) was: when A432 started playing it sounded like garbage because all the notes sounded flat to my ears, but then I got used to it and the music sounded alright. Then when A440 started playing it sounded like garbage because all the notes sounded sharp in comparison to what had just been played, but then I got used to it and the music sounded alright. Stop this video at 3:15, go listen to a couple of songs, and then play the video from 3:15 onward. You probably will not notice the "jarring" effect!
My thoughts and feelings: 1st version: It's soft and calming. It made me want to fall asleep and just imagine I'm floating on water. I feel like I'm in a trance in a way. It's just so peaceful. 2nd version: I immediately thought it sunded horrible and out of tune when it started. It has a annoying sound to it that i can't explain but it's not bad overall. It does sound pretty and nice but it woke me up and alerted me. My heart beat when up in this version.
Hi! I recognized the 432 hz immediately. Sounds different in my body. The 440 sounds great to my ears. I like both...although it "feels" different. I'll take de 440 . More comfortable ...I guess. 432 is.... weird though beautiful
I feel like different sounds sound better or worse at different hertz. Cuz i watched a video and the 440 sounded way better but this one I liked 432 better
@That Guy From Legendary Axe there are some sounds that can induce nausea to some yes. for example in the movie irreversable some technique like this was used to make the user feel uncomfortable on purpose during certain scenes in the movie.
Me too! I felt a bunch of strange pressure force coming seemingly from the direction of the guitar that pushed through my nerves uncomfortably. Very strange.
those two versions are WORLDS apart. The first version created a calm energetic dance within me, the second one felt flat and lifeless, and made me a little stressed.
Exactly opposite for me. 440 is definitely brighter and more energetic. As for the "stress" or "anxiety" people are feeling. Your own preconceived notions do more to this than playing the same notes in a harmonious way 8hz apart.
Wow, thank you for uploading this comparison! I am just finding out about this difference (of which I hadn't heard before) and, in my opinion, not only 432 sounds better, but 440 tends to "flatten" or expels the harmonics out, so to say. It is not a matter of fast vs slow, but of the harmonics you hear. Amazing!! 🙂🙂
There was a night and day difference between Version 1 & Version 2... For me V1 sounded so ambient, rich & infinite, while V2 sounded held back, cold or in a box sounding. Really liked the sound of your voice too Bill. Thumbs up! 👍🏼
@@kfox153 What exactly do you mean by ''music is dynamic, and always moving and changing''? Do you mean in different songs and genres, or do you mean that frequency changes in one song? Because the 2nd one is incorrect. Each song has a specific frequency that is fixed. If a frequency changed during one song, you would immediately notice a different pitch, the song would sound broken, like an old record or missing a note. Maybe in live music it's more possible for the frequency to change, but in commercial music that are recorded in a studio, the frequency stays the same for the whole song.
3:00 It's that an actual F# played by the guitar forming a Eadd9 chord or it's really the power of the 9th harmonic: [E, E, B, E, G#, B, D, E then F#], if you're musician, you'll get it, if you're not, just chill and listen carefully to the sharper note thats playing arround 3:00 :P
I suspect the multitude of commentors saying that they "feel anxious" hearing the version in A440 are feeling like something's "off" about the A440 tuning version directly after listening to the A432 version, because the notes are close enough where hearing the change in tunings makes you think something's "wrong" with it since all the notes sound a little "sharp". There is a reason that all channels doing these sorts of comparisons will always play A432 first, if they are wanting to elicit favour for A432. (Likewise the other way around).
it has to do with the number nine. 4+3+2=9, a number that is Existent and nonexistent; has to do with numerology and math. 440 is the number 8. Churches back in the 1500s tuned their pipe organs to 432Hz which and the organ was the first Polyphonic instrument. Antonio Vivaldi, a priest and yes, THE Vivaldi used it. As did Fresco Baldi, Gabrielli and Bach ,followed by Handl. The church was set up inside in such a way that the resonance of this 15,000 pipe organ would ring out and feel other worldly to the point where if the planets were aligned on that specific day, such as they were on October 19th,1980 in the San Francisco church that Eric P Dollard (scientist) talks about, it created a field of sound energy. It comes from the Pathagorian era.
Thanks for the demo and thank you for leaving out the cosmos jive. Definitely liked the 2nd one more. It seemed less discordant and I could definitely hear a beat of about 2 Hz. I have played instruments all my life with the piano my goto for working out songs. So maybe the piano with its fixed pitches is the source of my 440 Hz preference. Maybe it is related to personality or thought processes. Some say 432 is of the heart and 440 of the mind. How many other engineers prefer A440? I have played both for several people with a few notes in between to clear the ear in between and there was no marked preference. When I told them that the tone was 432 when actually playing 440 they liked the one I said was 432. Some folks want to be in tune with the pack.
For a UNEP experience, try A=666htz. I know it sounds bizzare, but research it! This is the frequency Shoon Gal Nook use to play before battle...he made his soldiers wear ear plugs while he played. The sound was so mysterious and mystical that the opposing army would actually lay down their weapons and start laying with each other. It soon got the nickname “homo frequency.”
666 Hz tuning required very light strings, so for better tone I tuned to 333 Hz with SRV gauge strings and used an octave pitch transposer. But that summons mischievous Enochian entities, so I learned to play the bugle.
Both seem to manifest a sense of peace, and a quick break from thoughts, although 440hz seems to have a more relaxing effect. it is a personal interpretation I believe that each person has their own. I'm out of tune regarding the other comments but anyway is a interesting effect, Thank you for sharing knowledge..
I recently tuned to 432 and find it a much better tuning. I don’t seem to get fatigued when playing or writing music, I feel more energised. I easily picked the difference in your test here 👍😎
Pjr J I asked a friend back in the 90s why alternative music left me feeling melancholy. He explained it was the way they tuned their guitars. He said pianos were tuned to a standard of 440 and the grunge bands tuned their instruments to about 400. Combining that with all flat singing notes made me turn to hip hop. That wasn't a much better experience for the long term either.
Music comes from the military. They wanted you to turn to hip hop, and be pro multi cultural. Pro black, pro race mixing, pro lack of reason, pro white genocide. @@axlegrind4212
I like version 1 better. It moved me. Had more feeling. The second version gave me a irritation. A bit scary. I think seeing the tone difference in water or sand structures would be more revealing.
I've listened to probably half a dozen tuning videos like this. I hear a song in two different keys. I do not find one any "better" than the other. I also want to echo some other comments, it can matter what order you listen to the examples in. Going back to back you have to be able to listen long enough for your brain to settle into the new key. Like eating sushi and chocolate cake. You might love both flavors but you probably want to cleanse your pallet in between.
Without questing the 'soul' is in version 1. Version 2 is cold and sterile. Saying that plenty of musicians don't get the existence of a dichotomy like this.
I see it the same way however, depending on the song, I find 432 more musically satisfying to the ear. But like I said, some songs sound better in 440, and vice versa.
I find no preference for one or the other. Context is also important. Lower tuned guitar by itself is different than standard tuning backed by bass and low synth. Call me a curmudgeon but I really don't think there's anything mystical about 432. "Standard" tuning has changed over time and at one point was even as low at 415, probably because of the construction limitations of instruments, but has also been as high as 466 in Bach's time. And this is all based on Western European standards.
It's weird, I loved the first play through. The second one was pretty, but I didn't like it as much. I play in both as well, but I have noticed that 432 seems to be more calming.
Been playing music all my life, taught mass choirs four part of I knew back then what I just found out, I would insist 432 tuning. I didn’t expect there to be that much of a diff WOW 😳 I immediately felt a Huge difference. The richest sound quality I’ve ever heard, if I had heard this 45 years ago I wouldn’t have played a note in 440. The guitar he was playing sounded like a million dollars but at 440 the chording felt disconnected from each string and the instrument yuk.., thank you 🙏 x 1000
Same here, I felt it in my chest. The longer I listened to B though the less I felt it. I think it was the contrast, since most music is 440 and I don't feel that way with everything. Palpable emotional reaction to a blind test has my attention.
B had a higher pitch.. Of course it sounds a bit more strained.. doesn't prove anything tho.. Let's say you play a tune in 422 and then play the same at 432. You'll get the same effect..
I liked them both...Thank you for posting this. I did feel a little more centered/grounded/soothing during version one and a bit more agitated/in my head for the second version, though it is hard to know how much of that was due to my shift in focus...the second one has the first one to compare it to, so it makes sense my brain would engage in a different way to it. My tuning tends to get off regularly enough that I don't sweat it too much for actual play time, though I think the big picture implications are fascinating to contemplate... Maybe that's just because my brain has been steeping in 440Hz tuned music most of my life? lol Thanks again!
it's not 8 cents though, going from A to G# is 24.7 hz difference. in that case, 8hz is actually closer to 30 cents and not a small 8. 30 cents is a lot imo. Whether it's worth it is up to you.
A.X.'s math is correct. I'll add that measuring absolute frequencies in Hz is not compatible with cents which are relative intervals as they are simply a further refinement of a semitone. I00 cents per semitone. And just as successive semitones as well as octaves and all other musical intervals will contain increasing more (whole number) frequencies as you go up the scale, so do cents. At A440, an increase to A441, a 1Hz difference, you go up 3.93 cents. If at A220, an increase to A221, still a 1Hz difference, you go up 7.85 cents. So you can see simply adding or subtracting frequencies will not yield correct results for calculating musical intervals whereas cents will. In general, using cents to describe a frequency or pitch offset from a given point just makes more sense and that's why electronic tuning involves the measuring of cents and not absolute frequencies...except to set the pitch standard.
You can convert music using a fast Fourier transform to do it without changing the tempo or speed. You'd just take all the frequencies, and move them down, and reconstruct the signal. I think that would work. I'll have to play around with it..
Trying to find a normal coment about opinions of these two , but i just see " I come from soluminati " and shit , give it a break pepople . Can't find a normal coment these days.
Well then, if normal means most common, then most of the comments you see are the normal ones 😅. Also why do you need to read the comments to find your answer?
It's immediately recognizable which is which. My teachers piano is tuned that way and I do it often in the studio for some instruments. But what do you mean with aggressive? It just sounds different, more interesting cause we are not used to it so much so its prominent, catches the attention more but in a very pleasing not so boring mind of way I think.
Wow! This was the best way to compare the two. I listened to the first version, then when you started version two, I immediately knew version one was my favorite. Version two irritated my ear to the point that I turned it off halfway through and skipped to the end to see results. My friends think it’s strange that I am a musician who hates to attend concerts. It’s just not pleasing to my ear. I now definitely think it has to do with the 440 resonance that’s bothering me. Gonna stick with 432 as much as possible from now on.
The first recording in 432Hz is so obviously more harmonic and uplifting …massive differents to my ear …432Hz all the way 👍 like the video ..interesting subject !!!
Pitch is relative. Imagine that you played an E chord in 440, then an F chord in 432. Now don't tell anyone which is which, and don't tell anyone that you were playing an F chord in 432. Just have them compare the chords without any bias. People will hear the E in 440 as "calmer and warmer" because it's lower than the F in 432. It would be interesting to see if people could tell the difference between a chord tuned to 440, and the same chord in 432 if the chords were separated by a few minutes of silence or white noise. If the second chord is played immediately after the first, it will always sound wrong because our brains have deemed the first chord correct.
Version 1 seemed Soothing to Me, whereas Version 2 Produced a Feeling of Agitation!! Gonna Try Tuning My axe to 432 and See if My Wife Stops Bitching about my playing as Much... sure worth a try!!
Thank you Bill, I don't know if you have read my comment like 3 days ago about 432hz on the other channel, but I feel like you answered it. I particularly tune my acoustic guitar in 432hz and I feel it speaks to my emotions. I like it better. Love from Brazil!
I was super skeptical when I first stumbled upon this whole 432 vs 440 discussion - I mean, it's 8Hz difference, it's so little it can't possible make any difference. However after listening to several samples, including this video, I'm simply blown away by the difference it makes. To me there is no doubt that 432 is significantly better, it sounds relaxing and makes 440 sound sort of annoying in comparison.
I'm stunned myself; I even noticed a difference in my heart rate and was thinking to myself halfway through the 2nd sample that from now on I'm going to tune my instruments to whichever frequency was in sample 1...
I preferred version 1 - I could already tell that it was the A432 version... so much fuller sound than A440. The Roland JX-8P synth actually came with the tuning preset to A442 so it always needed retuning before I did anything else... I'm sure other Roland synths of the same era were pre-tuned exactly the same.
OK, I just started version 2, and I must say that the harmonics in V1 sounded much more full and in tune. There was a certain unsatisfactory dissonance in V2. I just met up again with 4:44 in the video, and was surprised to see that I preferred 432. I trained extensively in multiple instruments tuned to 440 A in my childhood, but had the privilege of borrowing a silver 432 C sax, pre WW2, in my mid teens, and found it awkward. I have absolute pitch, so that was almost certainly just my upbringing on modern strings and woodwinds. Thank you, this was a bit of a mind fuck for me, and I love it!
It sounds "brighter" because it is brighter, because 440 is slightly higher in pitch. Higher pitches sound brighter, lower pitches sound warmer. If you want your music to be way warmer, detune the guitar by a half step or more (which is one of several reasons so many guitarists do this). There's nothing special about 432. Its just an arbitrary number pulled from nowhere by people trying to sell you snake oil.
The first one was the A that I grew up with. I played violin for years and that was the A that the orchestra tuned to. Also, I have perfect/absolute pitch; so, the more-modern tuning--heard in "version 2"--is a little "unsettling"... the notes sound a little "too sharp" to me.
I have to play in 440 when I’m practicing and doing lessons online for, obvious reasons. However our praise team plays in 432. I’m having to adjust my ear because after playing all these years in 440, my ear can hear the notes in a way that sometimes sounds not quite right in 432. Its definitely taking some getting used to
I preferred version one. It seemed calmer and seemed to have less bothersome overtones. This was a very interesting exercise.
Version 1: 1:55
Version 2: 3:15
For easy skipping
Coen Bijpost Thank You!!!!
Lol
@@kashubelua I own youtube
@Coen Bijpost And how to skip easy to your comment?
ҜᗩSᕼ upvote and tell your friends to upvote too :)
I'm a musician with 18 years of experience in guitars - I was able to tell right away which was which. Surprisingly, I felt the 432hz version sounded better. Maybe we should explore 432hz more in recordings.
Amen!
Don't quit your day job. Sorry. Wow at all these comments! The tunings were exactly the same each track. OMG!
The comparison was nice but it would be fair if he would have plaid a whole song. Play a whole song, best test is a piano for my opinion and you will see that in most of the songs you hear many notes off harmony.
Interesting trivia: a lot of the Beatles recordings are in 430-432.
RETARDED ZOMBIES, first learn then DISCERN. The destruction of harmonies and melody and frequencies STILL going the results is a planet of ZZZZZZZZOMBIESZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
I didn't know Ser Davos Seaworth was such a good guitar player
Haha
He always does say he was never a fighter...m
jajjaajaja...Ser Davos ....jajajaja
This was obviously before losing his fingertips :)
LMFAO!
440 sounded more aggressive/energetic and the first version of 432 sound more calm.
Agreed
Right: I honestly didn’t catch the frequency difference per se,
but I got the impression that the 432 gave an effect of
more sympathetic resonance (i.e. a hair closer to tiorba).
Так 440 Геббельс ввел )
Exactly the same
@@dariojimenez1678 no they weren't.
The second version felt a little unnerving, like in an old horror movie. Idk why
I preffer the 1st one, it felt warmer, like a hug.
Maybe theres a reason it changed..... even if the song is good, its not as harmonious and thus probably increases negative feelings and effects maybe?
I wonder what it would be like to have modern songs converted to 432 somehow
Probably confirmation bias. You've probably already bought into the idea of 432hz tuning being "warmer, like a hug", subsequently you've decided that's how it sounds when really they sound more or less the same. Yes the human ear does apparently receive it slightly better, but the difference you're describing is irrational. It's the same piece of music, so they couldn't possibly evoke such drastically different impressions.
Did you arrive at that conclusion before or after he told you which version was which?
To be fair, it's easy to tell given that you most likely noticed the change in pitch (some people can't).
Just my 8 cents, fam.
Same here. It's perfectly noticeable to me. I think it might be one of those things that some people are sensitive to and others aren't.
For me it was the opposite
my nigga it sounded the same
432 is so much warmer, 440 just sounds more higher in the head and less clarity/warmth. I guessed it straight off, this is crazy stuff absolutely fascinating!
People prefer 432 Hz only because it is lower. Results would be the same if you would compare 432 Hz with, for example 420 Hz. Then 420 Hz would sound deeper, warmer, etc. No magic here :)
@@Lascarnn Not correct!
You need to use a fretless acoustic instrument like a harp or a violin to really enjoy 432Hz.
Or at least an accoustic guitar with Just Intonated frets - NOT a guitar or a piano etc built for equal temperament.
The natural wood will resonate better at 432Hz because it is divisible by 2, 3, 4 and 6 (NOT 5)
at A4=432Hz
C2 will be 128Hz
D2 will be 144Hz
Sounds will be more pleasant.
Generally human beings enjoy slowmotion videos, slow sounds, slow movements. It relaxes the nervous system.
I agree with you. The 440 sounded a little more "brassy" or "bright" to me. The 432 was smoother and more relaxing to me whereas the 440 had a little aggressive feel to it/not so relaxing. Kind of like a tube amp (432) vs a solid state amp (440), in my opinion.
@@Lascarnn exactlyyyyyy
There was a pulsating in the sound on the second one. Like a warble in volume every 0.5 seconds on certain notes, but not all. The first sounded clearer.
Okay, so that's pretty interesting:
I played whole video near my cat. During version 1 it behaved casually, but when version 2 started playing the cat raised it's ears and I noticed it's strange look towards the speakers. I could not believe it's just because of frequency difference. I started again from version 1 and noticed the same thing. Even when choosing randomly my cat reacted consistently. It's just so strange
440 evoked more emotions in cat. 432 was boring for cat it ignored it.
I compose music in 440 I think it's more emotional imho , sparks anger, anxiety, happiness, sadness,all emotions
Not bland, boring or monotone
@@JaredDeinlein cats dont react the same way we do to music, its possible that the cat felt more harmonius to the sounds 432 hz gave and more dissonance towards the 440 hz.
@@GuanTones their ears and senses are different true . They hear sounds i dont even hear
My sons cat did not care. If I play certain Heilung Pagan music he gets restless and walks around screaming otherwise he doesn't care. Maybe your cat is a musician
It's pretty clear that the second one is higher, brighter. It sounds more in tune since I'm used to music in this tuning. Higher tuning normally requires higher tension in the strings, I don't know whether that has any ramification with our perception. Version one is lower, bit more sombre and melancholic. I really think it depends on what mood you are looking for in the music.
agreed!
It might also depend on the resonance of your room.
@@rh4009 Not only the resonance of the room but how about what audio system they are listening to it through. A phone''s speaker? A laptop with tiny speakers and a cheesy sound chip? A computer in a top-of-the-line recording studio? Each and every one will color the sound. For instance, my laptop's audio is so crappy that I hear no bass at ALL. I really hate it.
Agree！440hz does always bring brightness and vitality, it is purely a matter of habit and preference.
Before I knew anything about this subject, I've always intuitively gravitated towards '432Hz soundings'. This frequency seems to have more depth. Feels profound. 440Hz sounds quite superficial in comparison, it doesn't reach the same level. That's my personal opinion, of course. People are different.
God Christ Jesus bless you, have a great day today sister!
Idk if they are yk
I said something like solid an massive, you said depth! You got it right!
I think I prefer the 440 waaayyyy les dissonant!
Learn about sacred geometry, the number 432 has an intergalactic relation to us and theres endless parallells between life and these numbers.
I just happened to stumbled on this. As a non trained musician I can feel the 432 version like a "depth" sensation and the 440 version as a "disperse" sensation. I'm loving this.
Yes! Great description!
Yup. Felt it immediately
I agree.
that is the best description i have heard
Agreed. The best description I’ve ever read on this. Couldn’t put it into words myself.
The 440 also feels not just like dispersement but to shed or cast off. While the 442 feels like taking in, or feeling inward.
Surprisingly noticeable difference. I found version 1 more calming and felt like being wrapped in a blanket and version 2 was more familiar sounding and had a sense of optimism.
Would seem obvious to me that version 2 was more familiar sounding ...
exactly the same for me!
I feel 440 more in the bones behind my ear. I feel 432 in the flesh. Both have uses IMO, depending on whether the music is intended to be calm and relaxing, or sharp and energetic (ooh... an accidental 440 pun!) Well done, beautiful use of your effects. Thick but not overbearing.
gingataff
Agreed.🤗
As it's evening here, I preferred the first version, it had a warmer and ethereal sound, the second version was more familiar to me, so it got me up like "hey, wake up and get lifted in the wind"
This is crazy, I was hearing both songs distractingly with headphones while doing something else on the main screen.
The first one felt very organic, almost as if it was just a nice background and I could not hear it. Nice, calming vibes.
As soon as the second tuning started the mood changed very steeply, I started noticing the music tone more but it also carried some anxiety with it.
Incredible.
It's always important what was the first one. Music is very relative to our ears.
I found it interesting that I wanted to skip past the second one after about a minute because it started grating on me. I found it more interesting to discover it was the 432 tuning that I preferred. What I'd really like to hear are some well known songs compared rather than ambient drones. I do enjoy this type of music, but I think it would be a more fair comparison to hear something people know how the original sounds already. Happy birthday, for example - or Penny Lane - something that has a wide appreciation. Thanks for the cool vid ✌️
I skipped 2nd one after 1 minute
@@billordaf9510 Me too!
I can point you towards a specific video i use for meditation. An hour long of classical guitar playing at 432hz
such a big difference, version 1st carries me almost into meditation, the 2nd one is really uncomfortable even after 3 seconds, there is dissonance I don't know if the guitar was slightly out of tune or what! I'm gonna try my own experiment and maybe I'll post it
There was a dissonance because you were adjusted to another tuning with the first piece. If you want an honest comparison you should play both versions on different times of the day. It may also depend on which version you hear first. Playing a lower tuning after a higher one may have different results than starting with the higher tuning.
Imagine playing them both at the same time lol
I agree,, and i also listened separately too... By hours... To make sure.
Yah. I felt nauseous on second tuning. First one felt divine.
Yap, totally. it took me 15 sek to FEEL the answer.
First one felt more internal, more playing towards warmth. Second felt more like music getting pushed outward. very fun, thank you!
Woke So in the building 💯
StacksFN yurrrrrrr
StacksFN 💯
Wasgudd ghee😭
I like 440 wtf
Yo want to play world cup?
I've just released an extended ambient guitar meditation using A 432Hz tuning. Check it out and let me know what you think: ruclips.net/video/_QOMY935kQc/видео.html ALSO: I refer to "8 cents" towards the end of the video. I meant to say "8 hertz". Sorry about that!
version 2. v1 sounded a bit jangly to my ears. v2 was immediately different. more in harmony with itself (if that makes sense).
I also like both, I agree it depends on the context. For singing classic Rock I do use flat tunning cause it helps me singing treble parts (I'm a baritone) and I really enjoy the extra heaviness. For ambient guitar it really depends if the tune is "darker" or "brighter" (at least to my ear). Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts, Bill!!
Both sound great to me. I guess it depends on what mood yer in or what the situation is. When I play ambient guitar I tend try different settings fer my delay. I always keep an open mind and try a lot of different and you can probably tell if you've seen all my videos. Thanx fer sharin' this. Keep up the good work!
Chords Of Orion z
Version 1 was more sedate and calming while version 2 held anxiety. Wow I never would have thought.
“5:10 Sometimes his tuning can be off by 8 cents” meaning what??? That what he claims is 432 is 440 or Vice versa???? His name being chords of orion must not be over looked.
This FELT like deception. It did not RING TRUE. CYMATICS occurring inside when things RESONATE and VIBE with you.
Notice all these sayings have to do with a vibe.
Be careful what you believe. I think you WILL be surprised when you test the hertz of this. .... which surely he has done .... and so listen closely when he reveals the truth of what lies within. 5:10
Suppressing 432 is far more important than most realize.
Sound. resonance. Vibration. Cymatics.
Ignoring the so called cosmic he says? Yes let’s not mention that which uplifts and overwhelming proves the importance and incredible symmetry. Beauty. And synchronicity that awaits when in tune.
Test
@@esotericenigmamelaninshe1253 you passed! 🎉
I thought the opposite
I could almost tell right away that 1 was 432. It felt soothing listening to the cords. I was sure when I heard 2. I fast fast FORWARD to the end of the video to see what you said.
Dude I could literally fall asleep to the sound of that guitar playing. So peaceful
I could feel the first one radiating from my heart and the 2nd one was more in my head
Ohhh same I thought it is just me
Well good to know
Same here
The second I felt in the pit of my stomach. I don’t actually ‘hear’ much of a difference. I find this really interesting
bruh.. same here.. I thought it was just me.. the 2nd one makes me feel like i am having weird a light headache... and the 1st one is just.. natural ..crazy
Same!!
Somehow I knew from the first chords that version 1 was 432 Hz. Chords had more of a body and character. It's like version 1 catches more interest in the harmonics of the chords.
Glad I'm not the only one who responded like that.
This is why ALL my music (even my old music) has either been converted to, or is played in 432hz for the rest of my life. It vibrates within you and you don't just hear it, you feel it.
Bingo! Harmonics were surprisingly different. For some reason the harmonics sounded "compressed" at 440. 432 they "breathed". Not sure why that would be.
It's because 432Hz has 10 harmonics while 440Hz only 8
Nero Lenoir Please elaborate.
Felt calmed by the first one and then the second made me feel a little queasy. Not sure if that’s because of the tuning or because by comparison it felt off after having just heard the first one.
zacklur I agree with you on the feeling uneasy part
zacklur exactly since A 440 is just slightly above 432 it messes with your bodies own vibrations.
This is why ALL my music (even my old music) has either been converted to, or is played in 432hz for the rest of my life. It vibrates within you and you don't just hear it, you feel it.
Same here.
"'Cause every body Hertz, sometime".
Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk
Sometimes everybody cries
The second one my skin broke out in boils and the wife left me, and the first one my ex wife's skin broke out in boils and I got a check in the mail.
Funny, I had the exact same reaction.
That's enough proof for me.
Haha. Best reply ever.
lmao
😂😂😂😂
432 somehow sounded more dreamy to me. It's a pretty minor difference in the grand scheme of things, but I think if I was recording my own ambient material I'd go with the 432 tuning.
Ali FYI. 432 traditional from way back - Mozart. 440 introduced in 1950 by the infiltration of Nazi propagandist. 440 is dyharmonic to the human mind
432 is much more harmonious to my ear. 440 adds some disturbing feeling
432 hz is very special for music and for the well being of living beings =) I make 432 hz videos on my channel
Thank you Tristan! Someday I hope to keep improving at making the videos and at making better music for the camera. Im working on getting over the camera shyness so that i can bring you the music from my heart without all the messups in my playing because im too conscious of the camera. lol
Its cool to know that playing an instrument tuned to 432A can help heal the people around you... I play for mom and my girlfriends sometimes when they are sick or just in general.
Well, no matter which one people like more or less, it seems quite impressing how people feel a difference at all.
When people tuned by ear, I think music was more diverse somehow. Maybe some musicians tuning their instruments just right, could make people feel something that others couldn't, because they would tune differently.
Impressive!
432 definitely had more of a Buddhist temple feel. Time to buy a copper bowl I guess lol
:-)
Funny you should say that Albert. My friend has a Tibetan singing bowl and I took my guitar tuner with me to measure the bowl's tone, and his singing bowl was tuned to 432Hz, which was mad really because I doubt that the singing bowls that the monks make are calibrated to 432Hz. Those particular bowls were hand made and I can't imagine that they know about the 432 thing.
Smoke your pain away, loser...
With the first note of each version, I could tell immediately that the first one was my preference. Thank you for the demo ❤️👍
i am clairsentient, i listened to this 3 times..version 1 no issues, version 2 (the first time) stabbing pain in my left brain, 2nd time irritability, 3rd time, beginnings of panic attack, hard to breath and teary. I was so worried that I may get it wrong, and i am beyond relieved to know that I can trust my body. It has only been a year since I realized how sensitive and in tune I am, so I am happy to 'pass' this test.Thank you so much for provinding this. I had already changed 600+ songs to 432hz :)
I prefer A-432, because my human nature leads me to take a greater interest in things which are new and different from the norm. I therefore prefer to frame my experience of A-432 in a more positive light, as the contrast to the more conventional A-440 satisfies this need . All of my perceptions will also be tilted towards this opinion, consciously or not.
They both were nice. In their own way . I agree. I preferred version 2. It made my body tingle like a cresscendo with each chord. The first did feel more on the eery...in that the chord died or faded away faster. My first time commenting brother. Thank you for the lesson. Blessings to you n yours From Arizona. Ty
Huge thanks, a great comparison. V1 felt so soothing, I literally felt into my chair within the first second. V2 felt unnerving ASAP, I would compare it to listening to the traffic, it was unsettling.
2nd versions sounds relaxing af. Makes me wanna sleep with the lights turned on
DRENAMOW 😂 yah right
Same here, I felt the second one was more relaxing. The first one seemed darker.
same, the first one felt eerie. the second was comfy af
😅
432 is "darker", more "calm" when compared side by side with 440, but when played apart by, say, an hour you really can not tell anything different with your ear....but with your feelings the 432 WILL have a more relaxing effect.
I done experiments a few years back on this "bull" (as I called it then) and the results was affirmative that 432 made my friends, and myself, feel more "relaxed", "non-edgy".....a LOT of "feeling terms" where tossed out.
As for the "cosmic" claims, I don't know. But FOR MYSELF, the evidence says that there is some physical reaction to the two turnings, not for Rock or music with a driving beat, but for music that is calmer in the first place.....
Smurf431 it's all about your energy vibrations...that's why it Feels better!
I thought version two felt more natural.
we are made of mostly water and react to harmonic symmetric frequencies, so does our brain. the creator's encoding makes us the creation feel good since its harmonized.
This is truly amazing, came across a video about 432Hz and I wanted to do more research on it. Once you played the 432Hz version, it felt so peaceful, I felt the music connect to my heart and mind...it feels amazing, sounds amazing. I am in love with 432Hz. Thank you for sharing the video !
Awesome Demonstration! I knew immediately when you started playing (V1) that it was 432. V2 - -440Hz is dissonant to the ears and the mind in comparison. That´s why it was done in 1939 to set the standard to A-440Hz. It aggravates people, stresses the mind and biology. The proof is in the pudding. Blessings.
They both sound basically the same to me. I suspect the multitude of commentors saying that they "feel anxious" hearing the version in A440 are feeling like something's "off" about the A440 tuning version directly after listening to the A432 version, because the notes are close enough where hearing the change in tunings makes you think something's "wrong" with it since all the notes sound a little "sharp". There is a reason that all channels doing these sorts of comparisons will always play A432 first, if they are wanting to elicit favour for A432. (Likewise the other way around). Once you get used to the "normal" of the first playing, you find the change to sharper notes jarring.
My experience with this video (perfect pitch) was: when A432 started playing it sounded like garbage because all the notes sounded flat to my ears, but then I got used to it and the music sounded alright. Then when A440 started playing it sounded like garbage because all the notes sounded sharp in comparison to what had just been played, but then I got used to it and the music sounded alright. Stop this video at 3:15, go listen to a couple of songs, and then play the video from 3:15 onward. You probably will not notice the "jarring" effect!
Finally someone with a brain.
Congratulations, you are the only one not suffering from confirmation bias
My thoughts and feelings:
1st version: It's soft and calming. It made me want to fall asleep and just imagine I'm floating on water. I feel like I'm in a trance in a way. It's just so peaceful.
2nd version: I immediately thought it sunded horrible and out of tune when it started. It has a annoying sound to it that i can't explain but it's not bad overall. It does sound pretty and nice but it woke me up and alerted me. My heart beat when up in this version.
LOL, the 1st would be the worse one if the 2nd starts first. Try it. It's everything relative.
Hi! I recognized the 432 hz immediately. Sounds different in my body. The 440 sounds great to my ears. I like both...although it "feels" different. I'll take de 440 . More comfortable ...I guess. 432 is.... weird though beautiful
I really felt uncomfortable listening the 2nd version at 440Hz.... I wasn't expecting that.
Rikke big difference
I feel like different sounds sound better or worse at different hertz. Cuz i watched a video and the 440 sounded way better but this one I liked 432 better
@That Guy From Legendary Axe there are some sounds that can induce nausea to some yes. for example in the movie irreversable some technique like this was used to make the user feel uncomfortable on purpose during certain scenes in the movie.
>>the feels were real
Me too! I felt a bunch of strange pressure force coming seemingly from the direction of the guitar that pushed through my nerves uncomfortably. Very strange.
Version one was calming, Version 2 unsettling. I knew straight away that version 1 was 432
Same. A lot less tension.
for me it was the complete opposite
me too .. and i am as far from anything musical ... as possible :)
Same here
I heard the first string from the second Version and I got ear cancer
So and XXX brought me here who else 😂
Jay Bunnz me bruh 😂
Me
Yess sir
Me😂
Me
those two versions are WORLDS apart. The first version created a calm energetic dance within me, the second one felt flat and lifeless, and made me a little stressed.
think of this when turning the radio on.... or listening to any modern music....
version 2 sound more dramatic IMO
@@gernotfrohlich6978what non-modern music is not 440?
Exactly opposite for me. 440 is definitely brighter and more energetic. As for the "stress" or "anxiety" people are feeling. Your own preconceived notions do more to this than playing the same notes in a harmonious way 8hz apart.
@@timgrove7692 Simply because 440 is tonally higher and 432 lower. Higher - brighter
Wow, thank you for uploading this comparison! I am just finding out about this difference (of which I hadn't heard before) and, in my opinion, not only 432 sounds better, but 440 tends to "flatten" or expels the harmonics out, so to say. It is not a matter of fast vs slow, but of the harmonics you hear. Amazing!! 🙂🙂
There was a night and day difference between Version 1 & Version 2...
For me V1 sounded so ambient, rich & infinite, while V2 sounded held back, cold or in a box sounding.
Really liked the sound of your voice too Bill.
Thumbs up! 👍🏼
I've been playing and teaching guitar for 30+ yrs. The 432 really did resonate deeper/better. Cool test. Thanks!
Somehow we all here to THIS SPECIFIC VIDEO from sO new video about X
Omg riiii
Yeah wtf
440Hz seems to modulate more. 432Hz actually sounds more natural. I'm very surprised!
@Basir nonsense. It's just a point of reference, a place to start. Nobody hangs out at 440....music is dynamic, and always moving and changing.
@Basir well, you left your comments lying around where people can find them. 😂
@Basir delete it them
Yes. 432 hz harmonizes with more frequencies found in nature. It's the natural scale.
@@kfox153 What exactly do you mean by ''music is dynamic, and always moving and changing''? Do you mean in different songs and genres, or do you mean that frequency changes in one song? Because the 2nd one is incorrect. Each song has a specific frequency that is fixed. If a frequency changed during one song, you would immediately notice a different pitch, the song would sound broken, like an old record or missing a note. Maybe in live music it's more possible for the frequency to change, but in commercial music that are recorded in a studio, the frequency stays the same for the whole song.
3:00 It's that an actual F# played by the guitar forming a Eadd9 chord or it's really the power of the 9th harmonic: [E, E, B, E, G#, B, D, E then F#], if you're musician, you'll get it, if you're not, just chill and listen carefully to the sharper note thats playing arround 3:00 :P
Listening to the 1st version my headache went completely away and came back when listening to ver 2
ah fk off with that bullshit
I suspect the multitude of commentors saying that they "feel anxious" hearing the version in A440 are feeling like something's "off" about the A440 tuning version directly after listening to the A432 version, because the notes are close enough where hearing the change in tunings makes you think something's "wrong" with it since all the notes sound a little "sharp". There is a reason that all channels doing these sorts of comparisons will always play A432 first, if they are wanting to elicit favour for A432. (Likewise the other way around).
@@MCDreng dude thats actually right
Same here 🤯🤦🏽♂️
it has to do with the number nine. 4+3+2=9, a number that is Existent and nonexistent; has to do with numerology and math. 440 is the number 8. Churches back in the 1500s tuned their pipe organs to 432Hz which and the organ was the first Polyphonic instrument. Antonio Vivaldi, a priest and yes, THE Vivaldi used it. As did Fresco Baldi, Gabrielli and Bach ,followed by Handl. The church was set up inside in such a way that the resonance of this 15,000 pipe organ would ring out and feel other worldly to the point where if the planets were aligned on that specific day, such as they were on October 19th,1980 in the San Francisco church that Eric P Dollard (scientist) talks about, it created a field of sound energy. It comes from the Pathagorian era.
Version 1 was more tranquil and had a meditative vibe to it.
It's always important what was the first one. Music is very relative to our ears.
Thanks for the demo and thank you for leaving out the cosmos jive.
Definitely liked the 2nd one more. It seemed less discordant and I could definitely hear a beat of about 2 Hz. I have played instruments all my life with the piano my goto for working out songs. So maybe the piano with its fixed pitches is the source of my 440 Hz preference. Maybe it is related to personality or thought processes. Some say 432 is of the heart and 440 of the mind. How many other engineers prefer A440?
I have played both for several people with a few notes in between to clear the ear in between and there was no marked preference. When I told them that the tone was 432 when actually playing 440 they liked the one I said was 432. Some folks want to be in tune with the pack.
I prefer version 1
volvful i don't
zio_otio god who cares
Tony soto I don't care that you don't care
ok
Volv: eu me sinto mais confortável com a versão 1 (432). Achei a 440 muito densa, não me acalmou.
For a UNEP experience, try A=666htz. I know it sounds bizzare, but research it! This is the frequency Shoon Gal Nook use to play before battle...he made his soldiers wear ear plugs while he played. The sound was so mysterious and mystical that the opposing army would actually lay down their weapons and start laying with each other. It soon got the nickname “homo frequency.”
666 Hz tuning required very light strings, so for better tone I tuned to 333 Hz with SRV gauge strings and used an octave pitch transposer. But that summons mischievous Enochian entities, so I learned to play the bugle.
Noooo way.... Im going to research... But...
dont become homo xD dude . human music ;3
Sounds like a load of nonsense
Both seem to manifest a sense of peace, and a quick break from thoughts, although 440hz seems to have a more relaxing effect. it is a personal interpretation I believe that each person has their own. I'm out of tune regarding the other comments but anyway is a interesting effect, Thank you for sharing knowledge..
Who here after watching so new video 😂🤔
Me bro lol
bro 😂😂
LMAOOOOOO
Me heeeeeee 😂
LMFAOOOOO me
Wow, as soon as version 2 started I felt my body tense up. It was almost like I had to make an effort to breathe deeply and regularly.
there was a definite ring of clarity in the first version, a brightness which version 2 lacked in favour of a more stable sounding root IMO.
HEEEEEEEEEEEE KING SO IN THE BUILDING 💯
After so video all these videos views gon go up even more
I recently tuned to 432 and find it a much better tuning. I don’t seem to get fatigued when playing or writing music, I feel more energised. I easily picked the difference in your test here 👍😎
A/m is already depressing enough in 440, that's my two cents.
Pjr J
I think E chord is a B on a baritone as it’s a 4th lower. Sounds like B to me
Pjr J I asked a friend back in the 90s why alternative music left me feeling melancholy. He explained it was the way they tuned their guitars. He said pianos were tuned to a standard of 440 and the grunge bands tuned their instruments to about 400. Combining that with all flat singing notes made me turn to hip hop. That wasn't a much better experience for the long term either.
432 hz is very special for music and for the well being of living beings =) I make 432 hz videos on my channel
Music comes from the military. They wanted you to turn to hip hop, and be pro multi cultural. Pro black, pro race mixing, pro lack of reason, pro white genocide. @@axlegrind4212
*8 cents
I like version 1 better. It moved me. Had more feeling. The second version gave me a irritation. A bit scary.
I think seeing the tone difference in water or sand structures would be more revealing.
Thank you for doing this. You helped me to understand so much more about my preference. I liked version 1 more.
I've listened to probably half a dozen tuning videos like this. I hear a song in two different keys. I do not find one any "better" than the other. I also want to echo some other comments, it can matter what order you listen to the examples in. Going back to back you have to be able to listen long enough for your brain to settle into the new key. Like eating sushi and chocolate cake. You might love both flavors but you probably want to cleanse your pallet in between.
Without questing the 'soul' is in version 1. Version 2 is cold and sterile. Saying that plenty of musicians don't get the existence of a dichotomy like this.
I see it the same way however, depending on the song, I find 432 more musically satisfying to the ear. But like I said, some songs sound better in 440, and vice versa.
It’s definitely not the same as a key change. It’s far more subtle.
I find no preference for one or the other. Context is also important. Lower tuned guitar by itself is different than standard tuning backed by bass and low synth. Call me a curmudgeon but I really don't think there's anything mystical about 432. "Standard" tuning has changed over time and at one point was even as low at 415, probably because of the construction limitations of instruments, but has also been as high as 466 in Bach's time. And this is all based on Western European standards.
I prefer the first one. It has a calming effect😊
9-42 set on my Strat's, tuned to A440 for me...what I am used to. I knew 2nd was A440 from the timbre of the tone.
I closed my eyes and listened to both, for me #1 was calm and relaxing, #2 felt anxious and I had a hard time focusing.
It's weird, I loved the first play through. The second one was pretty, but I didn't like it as much. I play in both as well, but I have noticed that 432 seems to be more calming.
Been playing music all my life, taught mass choirs four part of I knew back then what I just found out, I would insist 432 tuning. I didn’t expect there to be that much of a diff WOW 😳 I immediately felt a Huge difference. The richest sound quality I’ve ever heard, if I had heard this 45 years ago I wouldn’t have played a note in 440. The guitar he was playing sounded like a million dollars but at 440 the chording felt disconnected from each string and the instrument yuk.., thank you 🙏 x 1000
First version feels relaxed and laid back.
Second version feels tense and fearful.
I describe v 2 like a panic kind of tone.
A. Felt serene. B made me feel anxious. Weird or what?
Same here
Me too
Same here, I felt it in my chest. The longer I listened to B though the less I felt it. I think it was the contrast, since most music is 440 and I don't feel that way with everything. Palpable emotional reaction to a blind test has my attention.
I felt the same way.
B had a higher pitch.. Of course it sounds a bit more strained.. doesn't prove anything tho.. Let's say you play a tune in 422 and then play the same at 432. You'll get the same effect..
I liked them both...Thank you for posting this. I did feel a little more centered/grounded/soothing during version one and a bit more agitated/in my head for the second version, though it is hard to know how much of that was due to my shift in focus...the second one has the first one to compare it to, so it makes sense my brain would engage in a different way to it. My tuning tends to get off regularly enough that I don't sweat it too much for actual play time, though I think the big picture implications are fascinating to contemplate... Maybe that's just because my brain has been steeping in 440Hz tuned music most of my life? lol Thanks again!
Bill.....I prefer 432. The 8 cent drop in tone makes the music sound more ethereal.
it's not 8 cents though, going from A to G# is 24.7 hz difference. in that case, 8hz is actually closer to 30 cents and not a small 8. 30 cents is a lot imo. Whether it's worth it is up to you.
Etheral! Thats the word i was looking for
A.X.'s math is correct. I'll add that measuring absolute frequencies in Hz is not compatible with cents which are relative intervals as they are simply a further refinement of a semitone. I00 cents per semitone. And just as successive semitones as well as octaves and all other musical intervals will contain increasing more (whole number) frequencies as you go up the scale, so do cents. At A440, an increase to A441, a 1Hz difference, you go up 3.93 cents. If at A220, an increase to A221, still a 1Hz difference, you go up 7.85 cents. So you can see simply adding or subtracting frequencies will not yield correct results for calculating musical intervals whereas cents will. In general, using cents to describe a frequency or pitch offset from a given point just makes more sense and that's why electronic tuning involves the measuring of cents and not absolute frequencies...except to set the pitch standard.
Closing my eyes and listening. I noticed my breathing rate increase on the second one. Louder faster and more intrusive.
You can convert music using a fast Fourier transform to do it without changing the tempo or speed. You'd just take all the frequencies, and move them down, and reconstruct the signal. I think that would work. I'll have to play around with it..
Trying to find a normal coment about opinions of these two , but i just see " I come from soluminati " and shit , give it a break pepople . Can't find a normal coment these days.
Well then, if normal means most common, then most of the comments you see are the normal ones 😅.
Also why do you need to read the comments to find your answer?
Listening to first version, I closed my eyes, and I instantly felt peace, joy, I felt so light. Second version was instantly weird for me.
I found versión 2 more calming. Versión 1 was a bit agressive. Idk
same
Agressive???
yes same ... and i did with my eyes closed and i was able to figure out which one is which
It's immediately recognizable which is which. My teachers piano is tuned that way and I do it often in the studio for some instruments. But what do you mean with aggressive? It just sounds different, more interesting cause we are not used to it so much so its prominent, catches the attention more but in a very pleasing not so boring mind of way I think.
I hear that too. I wonder if it's because of the tuning, or if the gain staging was adjusted between takes.
Wow! This was the best way to compare the two. I listened to the first version, then when you started version two, I immediately knew version one was my favorite. Version two irritated my ear to the point that I turned it off halfway through and skipped to the end to see results. My friends think it’s strange that I am a musician who hates to attend concerts. It’s just not pleasing to my ear. I now definitely think it has to do with the 440 resonance that’s bothering me. Gonna stick with 432 as much as possible from now on.
432 is warm and inviting, 440 is immediately agitating. Already working on getting my bands to make the tuning transition :-)
The first recording in 432Hz is so obviously more harmonic and uplifting …massive differents to my ear …432Hz all the way 👍 like the video ..interesting subject !!!
I think I actually heard the difference and was able to distinguish them correctly, but am I the only one that prefers 440hz??
Same here...
Naa in this case it sounds better (440Hz) to me anyways.. It depends on what you playing.
Definitely the 440.
432 sounded plain wrong
I found the underlying 2-note sound like a police siren of 432 and found the same 2-note underlying inspirational when playing in 440…
the first one sounded off to me
Easy....the first one. Resinated deeply with me!
Pitch is relative. Imagine that you played an E chord in 440, then an F chord in 432. Now don't tell anyone which is which, and don't tell anyone that you were playing an F chord in 432. Just have them compare the chords without any bias. People will hear the E in 440 as "calmer and warmer" because it's lower than the F in 432.
It would be interesting to see if people could tell the difference between a chord tuned to 440, and the same chord in 432 if the chords were separated by a few minutes of silence or white noise. If the second chord is played immediately after the first, it will always sound wrong because our brains have deemed the first chord correct.
Good points about perception!
Version 1 seemed Soothing to Me, whereas Version 2 Produced a Feeling of Agitation!! Gonna Try Tuning My axe to 432 and See if My Wife Stops Bitching about my playing as Much... sure worth a try!!
Hope she does, buddy!
how do you tune an axe?
V2 hurt my ears. I initially wrote V1 down as being 440 and went back to what I was doing...as soon as V2 came up I went back and switched my answer.
Thank you Bill, I don't know if you have read my comment like 3 days ago about 432hz on the other channel, but I feel like you answered it. I particularly tune my acoustic guitar in 432hz and I feel it speaks to my emotions. I like it better. Love from Brazil!
I was super skeptical when I first stumbled upon this whole 432 vs 440 discussion - I mean, it's 8Hz difference, it's so little it can't possible make any difference. However after listening to several samples, including this video, I'm simply blown away by the difference it makes. To me there is no doubt that 432 is significantly better, it sounds relaxing and makes 440 sound sort of annoying in comparison.
I'm stunned myself; I even noticed a difference in my heart rate and was thinking to myself halfway through the 2nd sample that from now on I'm going to tune my instruments to whichever frequency was in sample 1...
that 8Hz difference is around 32 cents, you sure as heck can tell the difference. at the 440Hz range, 1 cent is about 0.25Hz
@@gregr1154 I'm aware of that and I can tell the difference between the tones, but I'm amazed how much difference it actually make.
@@MikhalisBramouell Same, I went straight to my electronic keyboard and changed it.
@@zapador I also like how my string instruments need to be tuned less often with the lower frequency...
I preferred version 1 - I could already tell that it was the A432 version... so much fuller sound than A440.
The Roland JX-8P synth actually came with the tuning preset to A442 so it always needed retuning before I did anything else... I'm sure other Roland synths of the same era were pre-tuned exactly the same.
OK, I just started version 2, and I must say that the harmonics in V1 sounded much more full and in tune.
There was a certain unsatisfactory dissonance in V2.
I just met up again with 4:44 in the video, and was surprised to see that I preferred 432.
I trained extensively in multiple instruments tuned to 440 A in my childhood, but had the privilege of borrowing a silver 432 C sax, pre WW2, in my mid teens, and found it awkward. I have absolute pitch, so that was almost certainly just my upbringing on modern strings and woodwinds.
Thank you, this was a bit of a mind fuck for me, and I love it!
From the first few notes, I "felt" the 432. No. 2, the 440hz, seemed brighter, but slightly grating. Was it my imagination at work?
could also b the the order they were heard. if 440hz was 1st, who knows if the way u felt would have been the same?
It sounds "brighter" because it is brighter, because 440 is slightly higher in pitch. Higher pitches sound brighter, lower pitches sound warmer. If you want your music to be way warmer, detune the guitar by a half step or more (which is one of several reasons so many guitarists do this). There's nothing special about 432. Its just an arbitrary number pulled from nowhere by people trying to sell you snake oil.
Good point!
erm no, nothing arbitrary about it. 432 is a mathematical anomaly. Do some research.
Eric Veritas Blair Thank you Eric 🌸
For physiological purposes it is best to play on an acoustic instrument at 432 to gain the healing effects for your body and mind.
ok bud
The first one was the A that I grew up with. I played violin for years and that was the A that the orchestra tuned to. Also, I have perfect/absolute pitch; so, the more-modern tuning--heard in "version 2"--is a little "unsettling"... the notes sound a little "too sharp" to me.
One thing I've personally noticed about 432 is that my guitar sounds more in tune, even when it technically out of tune. Seems sweeter.
I actually liked the second one more
I have to play in 440 when I’m practicing and doing lessons online for, obvious reasons. However our praise team plays in 432. I’m having to adjust my ear because after playing all these years in 440, my ear can hear the notes in a way that sometimes sounds not quite right in 432. Its definitely taking some getting used to
432