Everyone complaining about the Ryobi battery needs to understand they use that same battery on all of their tools. They’re not going to design a different battery for the ratchet. With that said, arguing Milwaukee Vs. Ryobi is about as ridiculous as arguing Ford Vs. Chevy. They’re both fine.
Uh Makita uses a smaller battery for their 3/8 ratchet. That Ryobi 3/8 ratchet design with their regular battery is just plain lazy and lacking innovation! That thing is the best laugh I've had all day.
I’m A die hard ryobi fan, owner, user. I have that Milwaukee ratchet. I would have preferred if ryobi made a smaller battery for smaller tools, just like Milwaukee has. They mace a m12 and m18 line of tools. Ryobi could have made a small battery like the Milwaukee but still fit in the 18v charger.
with most of these tools, I think it all comes down to the battery at the end of the day. The huge battery on the Ryobi kind of defeats the purpose of the ratchet.
The cool thing like I showed in the video, is that Ryobi allows you to spin the head into 4 different positions, so the socket is now facing out the short side of the battery, now the clearance is exactly like the Milwaukee
@@jeffostroff clearance is not the same as the Ryobi. You still have 3 Inches hanging off the end of the tool no matter which way you clock the battery. In a tight spot, the Ryobi would be worthless.
@@shanestewart1498 I have a lot of the m12 and m18 Milwaukee tools and wouldn't trade them for anything, the size of the tool and battery is what I need, that huge battery just won't fit in the areas I work.
I have a C3 craftsman power ratchet(basically grey Ryobi). It's useless because of its massive battery. If the ratchet fits in so does an impact wrench.
As a mechanic it really comes down to the money and platforms you want to invest in. I wouldn't use any cordless ratchet to torque anything. They are good for fasteners bolts, quick assembly and disassembly of interior/exterior bolts. These are used more for the speed in break downs than it ever is for bolt torquing. I use Ryobi mainly because I have for years but also because I have yard equipment and other tools on the platform. Good package pricing as well. Even the most basic tool can be a super tool in the right hands...
I have had the Milwaukee M12 for 4+ years and I love it. I don't think That I could get by using the Ryobi just because of the size of the battery, to many tight spaces that it won't go into. I will give up the power that it looses to the 18 volt Ryobi just to keep it small.
jeffostroff The ryobi spin feature only gives it clearance from that one side, your not accounting for the difference in length or just that now you have the huge battery sticking out the other side, for the task you did sure if wouldn’t matter much, but I’ve had to put my Milwaukee ratchet in tight spaces where it just fit, especially in automotive, places where there’s no way the ryobi would begin to fit. Example taking the bolts out of a fan on the front of the engine, bolts out of the top of a transmission, or in going deep in the engine bay where I have to slide it in and flip it all around just to get to the bolt, many times where an extra inch in length and definitely 3+ inches at the base would not cut it. For real automotive work, nothing beats the Milwaukee.
I was wondering why Rigid hasn’t released one yet. They’re tool warranty is also 3 years & has a lifetime service agreement when registered to the Rigid power tools account.
I just recently came across your videos as I'm starting out on building out my collection for my home DIY projects. Thanks to your content, I was able to snag the Ryobi with the battery and charger bundle for $89 at HD just before Christmas. Thank you!
That ryobi wouldn’t even fit where I’ve put my fuel 1/2 inch ratchet at. The big battery makes it useless for engine bay work. You buy Milwaukee for the battery lineup not just the tool
i knew a person once who worked in the cabinet wood business and used Ryobi first gen never once said they were bad tools as a matter of fact i kinda got into ryobi because of him,but i'm not bias i've had bosch,milwaukee,dewalt and other brands i even have some corded HF stuff i can't say a bad thing about it.
12v "vs" 18v....apples vs. oranges. Anyone who has used a ratchet can also appreciate the form factor of the Milwaukee vs the Ryobi with that huge battery.
I have a lot of ryobi electric tools, because I can swap batteries as needed, but that big square battery on the end of a slim line tool could be a problem. You started the video talking about tight spaces in a car, and that battery could be a real access problem. Still I don't know if I want to go buy one milwaukee tool
@@TSKseattle Tom, didn't you see the part where I compared both tools side by side and showed how we rotate the head on the Ryobi to make the battery a non-issue?
@@jeffostroff it's not a non issue if you work in tight engine space. I've squeezed my manual ratchets into some small spaces that would not give you space for that battery at the end. I have all ryobi tools but given other options can offer a slimmer design it really puts me off the tool. If not for tight spaces then 18V every time over 12v rachet.
Coming from an ASE Automotive Technician Milwaukee battery tools are the best out on the market and smashing all the other competitors like Dewalt and Snap on. 5 year warranty, affordable, and m12 m18 batteries all charge from one charger. It just make sense to me but that just my opinion.
I’m 18 and have been a mechanic most of my life. I’ve never actually found a use for these. Not my cup of tea if you ask me. I’d rather take the time to unscrew a bolt “by hand” with a ratchet or even use a battery impact or air impact. I’m sure they have their place though
Wait until you have been a mechanic for double your life and get back to me. I can tell you old fingers, hands, and arms like these electric ratchets,, ahhh except that giant Ryobi.
I have been using mine now for a couple weeks and so far I like it. I work on Transit Buses for a living. I just put the 1.5 amp hour compact battery on it if I need more room.
I've used the milwaukee one on cars and put to MUCH abuse. You can use it as an actual locking ratchet to break lose nuts and tighten. So no need to worry about breaking anything in the head of the ratchet. Most things needing tighten and lossened with a 3/8" ratchet don't take or should take enough torque to do any damage. I have also just purchased the ryobi WITH a battery and charger for only 20$ more which seemed worth it as I was in the market for another battery. I'll see how much more I'll use it over the milwaukee.i really do like the idea of a rotating head yet you can rotate the milwaukee 360. Very thorough review . Again you can buy the ryobi with a battery and charger now
That makes the Ryobi more attractive now with the battery in the kit. You got lucky not busting the head when nut busting or when tightening the nuts. But just be aware the Milwaukee printed instructions for this tool warn us not to do that.
@@jeffostroff yea definitely worth it with the battery and charger. And I don't do it on HEAVILY torqued bolts. Pretty much anything I wouldn't use bigger than a 3/8" ratchet on i wont use this on. And always switch to an actual ratchet to tighten. Essentially common sense. If you work on cars daily you get a feel of when something is about to break and what its limit is. But so far that past few days using the ryobi has been great. The battery did prevent me from getting into a starter signal wire bolt but swiveling the head solved that. So definitely worth it imo. Also thanks again for the review great work!!!
As long as you don't have to reach too deep, won't be a problem. Certainly we can sue it for changing spark plugs, and replacing car batteries, and on log nuts once we loosen them. Or use them to tighten lug nuts before we torque them down. Of course using on a regular basis with lug nuts, you'll likely use an impact wrench.
jeffostroff yeah I suppose I’m looking at it from my point of view as a mechanic where I’m using these things everyday. For a guy on his driveway the ryobi would be absolutely fine
I personally would never use a cordless or even pneumatic ratchet for any car with that involves having to dig deep inside somewhere to reach a fastener in a very tight space. 1) the ratchets are too bulky, regardless of what kind of battery pack is on it, and 2) if the fastener is super tight and you're not able to break it loose by hand, and you try to loosen it up with just the trigger you'll end up smacking your fingers against other parts and bruising them up, hence why these are called "knuckle busters" lol. Not saying they're bad ratchets that can't be used on cars by any means, they just need to be used in more open areas and only on fasteners that were broken loose/are not super tight to begin with. They weren't designed to be able to be used in super tight areas. Some more than others yes, but they will not be able to fit halfway up underneath an engine to reach a highly mounted starter or anything like that.
@@coytus94 power ratchet is designed to speed up work and the time saved adds up. You don't have to be able to break the fastener loose with it to benefit from the speed advantage.
I have been looking at buying the Ryobi 18v Ratchet. I have a lot of Ryobi tools so i have quit a few batteries and the 6pack changer. I do a lot of old car restoration as a hobby. it looks like a very nice tool with the exception is that it is very heavy and the battery on the end makes it kind of awkward in tights spaces. the Milwaukee is a more elegant design. its lighter and for a professional mechanic that uses it all day long that is a big difference. for someone like me that just uses it on weekends the Ryobi would be prefect and the 18v battery pack will last monger then the 12v pack. TTI makes both the Ryobi and the Milwaukee branded power tools, so I expect them to preform about the same with the advantage going to the 18v. these would be great for small jobs, but neither could replace my Campbell-Hausfeld GSD air ratchet for speed or power when working on a car. also you should never tighten lug nuts with a impact wrench. using an impact wrench can over tighten the lugs damaging the threads on the stud, damaging the wheel rim, and possibly warping the break drum or rotor. I know a lot of contractors that use Ryobi because of the price of the batteries when compared to Milwaukee or DeWalt or others. the Hart stuff is just recolored Ryobi with a different battery pack design. the guts are identical.
@@jeffostroff they make what is called a "Torque Stick" that limits how much torque an impact wrench can apply. they basically act like a torsion bar a limit how much torque is applied to a fastener. the tire shop may have been using one of those. they work well, but they are not as accurate as a good torque wrench. and by good torque wrench I mean something not bought at harbor freight. the Husky, Kobalt, Craftsman, and Tekton torque wrench's are all good and moderately priced. I have had bad experiences with HF tools. and their Pittsburg line in particular is junk. I hear good things about Icon, but after my bad experiences, I am not going to switch form Tekton and my old USA made Husky tools.
@@jeffostroff I did end up buying the Ryobi 3/8 ratchet. my first one was defective right out of the box. it appears that the F/R selector was stuck in the middle and would not turn to engage the pawls. I returned it to to HD and got another one. so far the replacement has worked perfectly and just used it to replace the battery in my 1970 Camaro SS 396. worked very well and the amount of time it saved was amazing. I was a little worried after the first one was defective, but so far I am very happy with it, and its not like this is the first thing I bought that was defective right out of the box. I had this same thing happen with the Husky 33in mechanics tool cart last year... some worker at the factory installed the drawer locking mechanism incorrectly, so none of the drawers would lock with lid in the closed position. upon inspecting it, the lock mechanism was 180 degrees backwards. the one good thing I can say about shopping at HD is the returns department took care of it with no hassle.
I've been a professional contractor for 35 years and Ryobi has really upped it's game. Sure, the high-end brands are still a little better in most cases, but Ryobi is on their heels. Their tools perform well, they last, and they are priced right! I actually use Ryobi in my home shop due to the shear selection of tools that will all use the same battery and the low cost. It's served me very well.
From an electrician of 20 years of industrial and construction Ryobi is great for home, not quit tough enough for commercial or industrial work. The bodies flex too much under load, frequently pinching the palm of my hand. The motors stall out before long before Ridgid, Milwakee or Dewalt. Many of the Ryobi motor gears are polymer and do not stand up to abuse. They are cheap for a reason. I use Ryobi for home use. I bought into the brand explicitly for the cordless fan and have acquired several more Ryobi tools with no regrets.
this isn't what the tool was built for... lol. It's a ratchet, not an impact driver. I'm 100% sure if you tried to drive that screw with an M12 impact over a Ryobi impact, yeah, different story. Do appreciate the video though. Very thurough
Both manuals have warnings about this. Milwaukee says this "Do not force the power tool. Use the correct power tool for your application. The correct power tool will do the job better and safer at the rate for which it was designed." AND ALSO, from the Ryobi User guide it says this "NOTICE: Do not turn the tool off and attempt to use the tool manually to gain extra torque on the nut or bolt being tightened. Doing so could cause damage to the fastener and/or the tool."
For engine bay work, the ryobi is worthless. Rotating head will help in some spots, but the battery will keep you from putting that thing deep in any engine bay.
Thanks for sharing, I can go fairly deep with no problem. It's only an issue when you have to go way down or squeeze into an area where there is no space. But for common repairs like removing batteries, spark plugs, changing main engine gasket, all of those common repairs are reachable with the Ryobi as well.
Ryobi is prosumer. I've used their products for years. The short coming has always been battery life. Ni-cad let me down, My fault leaving them in the charger all the time. Just bought the new green line. Lot less expensive and same or better specs.
Yes I always tell people with all those old school nicad batteries to ditch those old systems even if you have to pay money to upgrade to a newer brushless motor with lithium ion batteries their lives will be much much better there will be much happier with newer more modern more powerful and lighter tools
Good video Jeff. I was quite impressed with the Ryobi cordless ratchet. The safety aspect of proper torque on the lug nuts is important. Going a step further, no critical nuts or bolts should be considered tight enough by using the cordless ratchets. Including brake and suspension parts, etc. Always finish up with the factory torque specifications using a calibrated torque wrench. Thanks for the review!!!
@@jeffostroff I also noticed that the Ryobi drove the lag past the shoulder and sunk the hex head in the wood. Whereas the Milwaukee didn't even make it to the shoulder. Good for Ryobi, they take an unnecessary verbal beating by some.
*Facepalm* The Milwaukee is better. The Ryobi isn't nearly as capable. Let's not forget a 6Ah Fuel Milwaukee will outperform the Ryobi in every aspect. Also it's a ratchet not an impact.
They are the same tool under the covers. slight changes in outer shell. milwaukee, rigid, ryobi are the same company. They used to swap out plastic for metal, and sometimes better motors but lately they don't even do that to keep costs down. Notice that the rigid and ryobi are starting to look alike? I have friends that work at the factory, even swapped out made our own version of tools.
I own many Milwaukee and Ryobi Tools, love them both with no complaints. Ryobi is more budget friendly and I never run into a job a Ryobi tool can't handle.
I do have the Milwaukee ratchet but my garage is full of green. My concern here is the smoke exerted by the Ryobi. You put the Milwaukee through its paces but smoke was not apparent.
@@jeffostroff Yes, sadly, some guys sell those tools to higher prices here. But already i'm trying to contact to HD's export area, to buy some Milwaukees and/or Ryobis. And if it doesn't work, I hope to visit Florida next year or soon, to see more options. So if you have any tips for me, I will be very grateful.
Three tool lines. Looks like me. Dewalt drill, Milwaukee and Ryobi ratchet. I have a Bosch 18v ½" pistol and right angle drill, a whole bunch of Ryobi 18v+ tools, and Kobalt ½" and ⅜" impact guns and 4" angle grinder.
And to be fair, a big battery on the tool isn't going to give more power to the tool, or make it spin faster, don't know where you come up with this nonsense.
Yeah, you're not supposed to use a ratchet with a bolt going into a small pilot hole. Thats what the impact driver is for. Removing it from an already anchored bolt would be more realistic. Plus a 12v vs an 18v is not a apples to apples comparisons.
I bought into the Milwhackoff 12v system just for this ratchet and the FUEL 90 degree impact wrench. It's compact and easier to fit in tight spaces and the price isn't an immediate turnoff like Snap-On. I just find myself wishing for a Makita version because Milwaukee seems to cheap out on tools that aren't flagship models. Noticeable difference in build quality between the affordable brushed and overpriced FUEL stuff. Makita seems to keep quality and design the same across brushed and brushless versions of the same tool for less money. TTI is milking the brand name.
Makita does have a ratchet on the CXT line and I like it better then the Milwaukee. It has interchangeable anvils so you get a 1/4" and 3/8"
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@@craigdoesstuff5270 Is that the one that does 800 Rpms? Would be real nice for somebody that puts tons of nuts and bolts in just one after another and needs it done fast. For automotive the battery was a little much but other than that i'm sure if you're in the lineup it would be nice to have.
@@craigdoesstuff5270 Makita also has a CXT impact wrench. I use mine for my lightweight jobs, and it is much more powerful than a cordless ratchet. For heavier work I use more powerful impact wrenches. These cordless ratchets seem to be way underpowered for real life applications.
Finally!!! good job Jeff my opinion is milwaukee had a 12v 1.5 ah battery vs ryobi 18v battery, if you try a xc-6ah on the milwaukee i think it could of out perform the ryobi. price wise yes ryobi is coming out with some competitor that are making people go DAMM!!!
Actually with these electric ratchets they are designed to be used as ratchets. You break the fastener free using it as a ratchet manually and then you drive it out electronically. Or you drive it in electronically till it stops and then tighten it manually as a ratchet.
Sorry you are wrong. Both manuals have warnings about this. Milwaukee says this "Do not force the power tool. Use the correct power tool for your application. The correct power tool will do the job better and safer at the rate for which it was designed." AND ALSO, from the Ryobi User guide it says this "NOTICE: Do not turn the tool off and attempt to use the tool manually to gain extra torque on the nut or bolt being tightened. Doing so could cause damage to the fastener and/or the tool."
jeffostroff really lol...... I’m not wrong at all. That’s why they call it a ratchet. You clearly don’t know how those are used. You are using them like a right angle impact wrench which these aren’t. They are a ratchet. Keyword ratchet.....Manually break a fastener loose or tighten. When the manual says do not force the power tool that means do not use it like a impact wrench to break fasteners free or tighten them like you are doing. That’s why they only are rated for 35 ft/lbs torque because you break them loose manually then drive out the fastener. For how you are using these ratchets you want the tool below from Milwaukee. Sorry but I’m not wrong. These are ratchets for a reason, ask any mechanic how they are supposed to be used. www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Wrenches/2564-20
jeffostroff the ryobi Manual probably says that because it’s not really designed for real professional trade use. It’s more for the diy guy on the weekend etc. The rotating head is a weak point for being used as a ratchet. The Milwaukee is designed to compete with pneumatic ratchets.
He is not wrong at all Jeff, I’ve been using the newer fuel versions and have beat the breath out of them using them as a ratchet, and have never broken the head, stripped the gears, or broken the plastic clamshell.
Mystery Comment.....I agree with you 100% even though they both state not to do so, but with that being said then what’s the damn use in even buying these ratchets if you can’t use them as a ratchet?!! Kind of pointless in my opinion. I mean who the hell is going to loosen a tight bolt with a regular ratchet and then switch out to the electric one to finish it out and then vice versa when reinstalling?! I guess these are great for someone more on the lazy side
Ryobi has a bit of advantage because of the battery 18 vs 12 volt but yes budget wise Ryobi...Also i don't like the big battery on the Ryobi in tight spots it wont work...
Why not using the current model from Milwaukee n redo the test??? The one u have on hand is like 4 years old model. By the way, even the torque n rpm r similar on both Ryobi n Milwaukee, Voltage DOES make a huge different, u have to put on consideration of battery voltage drop under load, bla bla bla ... this video is not a fair comparison to me.
Cool, I might get one. This was helpful, because it’ll probably end up being between the Ryobi and the new M12 fuel high speed ratchet Milwaukee just announced.
You have to take into consideration that the Ryobi is 18 V and the Milwaukee is 12.... I would expect the Ryobi to be a little more powerful just for that reason but I can see for sure that the Milwaukee will last a lot longer In terms of longevity
noname given .... That's not a bad price.... i'm not a mechanic so I don't really need the fuel version..lol...I got the other one just for basic nuts and bolts
Idk man, quite a few of my coworkers use Milwaukee cordless tools and swear by them BUT I’ve been seeing their tools crapping out on them A LOT lately. I’m a Dewalt guy myself but when I need a tool that I’m Not going to use a lot, like this Ryobi ratchet that I’m considering buying, I will buy the tool only and just use my Dewalt to Ryobi battery adapter. $30 on Amazon...works great!!
Not even close, they are rated for 35 ft-lbs, light duty. Once you nut bust the lug nuts, then you can use this to spin it off, or on the bolt, i do this all the time
By the way, pointing that laser at your camera is a good way to burn out the CCD chip. You can see in the video how it tried to crank down the exposure to that light
I have both which do I like most ? The milwaukee . The milwaukee can definitely get in tighter places . But if you like a low cost tool the Roy I is not that bad and it will save you time .
So I noticed on the car the Ryobi stripped the threads it appears. The Milwaukee stopped the bolt when it was at the torque level was reached, but the Ryobi kept spinning the bolt until you stopped it. Looked stripped. This video could have been drastically shortened with keeping to the important things.
Sorry bro your wrong.. You can use electronic ratchets by hand like a regular ratchet they are designed for that they are meant for you to use them by hand to loosen the bolt then use the trigger to take it out Fast and can be done to tighten as well if you choose more then likley you won't do it by hand on tightening though when you can just use the powerof the ratchet instead @7:59 @Jeffostroff
Sorry bro you are wrong, Milwaukee's instructions specifically state not to do that. Remember it's a 35 ft lb rated tool, and you could easily surpass that trying to use the tool as a manual ratchet
@@jeffostroff I don't think you understood what I was saying I agreed with you on using it as a regular ratchet to tighten items I disagreed with you because you are suppose to use it as a regular ratchet to loosen bolts then use the electric part to take it out Fast I referenced 2 different things in my first message
Great video. The Ryobi doesn't appear to be available in Ireland which is disappointing, especially as I already have the batteries and charger ready to go !
@@jeffostroff I probably could, thanks Jeff, but the shipping cost and duty we pay here would probably double the cost 😁. I'll get my hands on one by hook or by crook ! lol
Only thing that bites is the way the battery is, i understand iits an 18v battery but you think ryobi would have oriented it where it was the least slim. If it was angled right with a compact 1.5ah battery it might fit into some tighter areas. I men if milwaukee made an 18v ratchet itd be the same way. Il probably get the ryobi just bc i have an air ratchet for when i need somthing slim and i already have a 18v ryobi set, i also have 1/2in 2767 high torque milwaukee impact wrench kit, came with 2 5ah batteries, a rubber boot, led light and an impact socket set on sale for 4.79. For the money you just cant beat that milwaukee impact wrench its a monster. Just got a milwaukee blower too but for most other tools ryibi is more than adequate. I might even get there new 1/2in hp impact wrench bc its so compact and powerful. But its hard to justify bc i have a decent air supply but sometimes you dont have access to the compressor and its nice to not have the hose sometimes.
Believe me though that rotating head they put on there is a great design feature that really does help move the battery out of the way in certain cases. But yes Ryo be is limited by their battery design that hasn't changed in years and they really need to come up with a slim battery elect those smaller Milwaukee M12 CP batteries that are basically little cylinders that would help tremendously
Well I've been in the market for a ratchet. (I just work on my person vehicles usually toyota cars) i got the m18 fuel 1/2 mid torque and the 90 degree m12 impact (it a crazy how small and powerful it is) I think I'm gonna go with a ryobi for the ratchet I have an adaptor for my m18 to ryobi tools that I run my recip saw and my lawnmower/ weed trimmer. Both are great brands dont let a battery hold you back go buy a 25 dollar adapter and live freely.
My opinion with the ryobi. They should have just put the head on backwards and made the head fixed. From my experience, anytime they have a tool with a rotating head they are not very strong. It would not surprise me if that ryobi didnt last very long
This is a light duty tool not meant to be a very strong tool anyway it is only rated for 35 foot pounds so whatever you're concerned about I don't think it's even an issue for them
I would have liked to see you use a fully charged XC battery pack on the Milwaukee since it was against a tool with 6 more volts and ?more amp hours. XC packs put out more amps under load and can make a big difference. Pros don't generally use Ryobi because they don't hold up over time. Another couple of seconds on that lag screw and that Ryobi would have let out the smoke for the last time. And it's brand new! It lacks the protection circuitry that the Milwaukee has to keep from damaging the tool and the battery. That circuitry cost money to make. For weekend warriors or guys starting out on a tight budget, it may make sense. Some contractors do buy Ryobi because their crews will destroy whatever brand they provide and consider them disposable. Just like GM makes both Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, TTI makes 4 lines of cordless power tools. And just like GM's cars, TTI's tools are for different levels of buyers. Hart at Wal-Mart, no explanation necessary. To early to discuss how they will last. Ryobi are entry level/consumer tools. Usually work fine for a short while and suddenly die. Rigid licensed by Emerson, prosumer tools. No where near the quality of the actual RIGID hand tools used by plumbers and electricians everywhere. Rigid in name only, though decent quality. Milwaukee is the premium line used by pros in the same league as DeWalt and Makita. Each has their niche and price point that caters to the respective buyer. Premium brands cost more because they are made to higher standards with better components. Yes, some components will cross brand boundaries. But when you look at the materials and electronics inside, the difference is apparent. Heavier wiring, potted electronics, higher quality machining, better fit and finish, stronger plastics with more glass fiber reinforcement, better warranties, better batteries, etc, etc. No company makes perfect tools. But you generally get what you pay for.
So Mike, I don't think adding a more powerful battery gives you more power. That's a mistake many people make with regard to power tools. A Higher capacity battery just gives you longer battery life. The motor is set to perform at the speed it performs once it sees 12V. the only tools we know of that produce more power and torque with a larger batter are Dewalt's new PowerDetect series introduced in March.
@@jeffostroff That's mostly false. The bullet battery in that tool has 3 cells. XC packs have 6. That is twice the available amps as they are two parallel banks of 3cells each in series. Now, testing the 3 cell packs against each other you are probably correct. I.e. a 3ah battery likely wouldn't show a performance increase over a 2ah pack. Only runtime would change. And likewise with the 3,4 and 6ah XC packs when compared against each other. I cannot say for sure that this particular tool can draw enough amps under severe load to make a difference though. I do know that the battery and tool "talk" to each other and if either reaches an overload threshold, the circuitry will cut power to the motor. I own over 100 Milwaukee cordless tools, both M12 and M18. That obviously doesn't make me the foremost expert on the topic, but I use them every day.(not all of them of course) And I know my tools. Due to the compactness and performance of the M12 tools, they are the ones I tend to use the most. I can tell you from experience that the larger packs will produce more power under load than the compact packs. And with either pack there is a noticeable difference in power between a battery with 4 bars and one with 1 or 2 bars. For instance, one of the common tasks I perform is to drill and tap 2 1/4-20 holes and one 1-1/8 hole in 1/4 in mild steel and sometimes AR plate. The bullet packs easily drill and tap the 1/4-20 hole without issue. But if I try to drill the 1-1/8 hole with a thin wall hole saw, it will constantly cut out. When I switch to an XC pack, it plows right through with no cutouts. I can say with absolute certainty that the M12 drills, impacts, circular saws, inflator, die grinders, cutoff saw, polisher, and vacuum all perform much better with XC packs. Low drain tools like lights, soldering iron, stapler, caulk gun etc don't draw enough power to show any noticeable difference. I think the ratchet falls into that "maybe, maybe not" category until I see it tested or test it myself. An odd side note: Some lower capacity packs have cell chemistry that enables higher drain rates than their higher capacity brothers, giving higher performance with less runtime. I think this all is a great topic for a video in the future. Simply drive a lag with a compact battery and switch to an XC pack and see if it makes a repeatable difference. Sorry to be so long winded. It's a curse of mine. haha! Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work.
The ratchet and the Brad nailer from ryobi seem to be very well reviewed tools. Not much else. I just got the Brad nailer and it is living up to the reviews.
@@jeffostroff I thought the Ryobi nailer was decent too when I used my co-workers until my boss bought me the fuel 18 Brad nailer as a bonus for a job and HOLY CRAP does it shit all over the Ryobi. Not just in ergonomics but in battery usage and nail depth consistency as well
10:26 you never tightened the bolt all the way, because you were afraid you were going to strip the bolt ;) Defeated the purpose of the test, just saying should have used it on a bigger bolt.
Air ratchets are the best! They are especially used for lug nuts as they can handle the torque required, often over 100 ft-lbs for lug nuts. But for tight work inside the engine, you might be better off with the smaller and more mobile Milwaukee and Ryobi.
You will find that milwaukee and ryobi are built by the same manufacturer as ryobi is level entry tools but highly popular and rather robust as the milwaukee. But i would agree with the ryobi battery on a tool that size far to big and about time they did a smaller battery.
A cordless ratchet definitely isn't the right tool for lugnuts on a car. A cordless impact wrench would be the tool for that and also torque isn't something you need much of for a cordless ratchet since you can manually use the electric ratchet for applying torque to a fastener once you have ran the fastener down snug.
Milwaukee is a Chinese company with a name from an American city. They both have the same parent company. I prefer Dewalt for being an American company manufacturing in Taiwan
Love the video Jeff and people still keep bashing Ryobi well the proof is now fact you showed what can and cannot be done with each. I sent you an email what a picture of the new Milwaukee packout tool box with drawers I saw a picture of it from Vince from VGC not sure on pricing part number or availability at this time
@@jeffostroff I have no idea maybe Vince they have a better inside track let's see if he makes a video about it and if he comment on any other new items that may be coming out or available according to the rumors that box may go for about $150
I got news for you, in many areas you can't even get your hand in with a ratchet or a stubby wrench, so no need to grip about this. These are made for all the nuts and bolts that you can reach from the top of the engine.
Really doe snot matter, both tools have the same specs, the same Torque rating of 35 ft pounds, and the the same RPMs. I just did it to show the difference between the 2 tools, not for an apples to apples comparison.
@@jeffostroff You can put a 4Ah or 2Ah battery on the Milwaukee. Can you get 35 ft pounds for both cases? Common sense tells us not. You should check the details of how to get the specified resultw.
As with most tests done on you tube, the tester obviously wants the Milwaukee to be the clear winner, however personally I’m much more impressed with the ryobi due to the performance and the cost is so much less? Milwaukee is a great tool, but for joe average, you can’t always beat the more economical offerings…….
I can easily get to most bolts on the upper part of the engine. anything down tight, not even the Milwaukee can get to, you need to start adding 12" extenders.
People have been complaining about this for years. Everyone was hoping in August at their new product announcements of the HP tools that they would have a redesign of the battery, but no deal.
It's a universal battery for all their 18v tools. I use that battery on chop saws, drills, grinder, flashlight, radio, fan. Their catalog of tools is nuts.
I would have gone for the ryobi if the battery wasn't that big. I bought the milwaukee m12. I have a ryobi impact wrench for almost 2 years and it still works great.
So the ryobi has a bit more power to handle that larger bolt because it runs on an 18v battery right and the milwaukee is 12v. Also i think you are using a 3 or 4ah on the ryobi in this video is it not? Looks a little too big for it to be the 2ah one that it comes with
jeffostroff Online there is an option for charger and two batteries(2ah). Im sure that is a big factor with it being 18v and 4ah. There was another video somehwere on youtube of a guy doing a review on a ryobi tool and got different results on the same job when he would swap between lower and higher amp batteries.
Stop being an English teacher. For Pete's sake we test tools on everything whether you think it's right nor not. I bet you were jsut sitting there all night waiting for the right video to criticize.
This would be an awesome video to do on the new Fast ratchets from Milwaukee as well as the fuel models from Milwaukee vs the brushed Milwaukee and the ryobi in one video @Jeffostroff
@@jeffostroff you are right they are pricey didn't realize you didn't have them I have all the brushed and brushless ratchets including the extended ratchets just don't have the speed ratchets yet
I've got the Ryobi wrench, great for the price and performance. But, it's not an impact wrench. Also, the big ass battery on the Ryobi means the Milwaukee would obviously get into more tighter spacers. So, I've got the Ryobi, but the Milwaukee wrench has that one advantage.
You and me both! Hope to start filming that one tomorrow, had lot so setbacks last week with rain, heat, emergencies, then my Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0 boxes arrived a week early and took priority
Ryobi had no problem with the 1/2 lag because it has a massive 4.0ah batteries and its a 20v tool compared to a 12 volt tool the Milwaukee might perform better with a xc 4.0ah battery @Jeffostroff
@@jeffostroff I understand it's rated at the same 35 ft pounds but ryobi under rates there tools on paper and 20v tools will give more initial torque because higher voltage also means higher ampage dump from the battery compared to a 12v tool its ohms law
Someone pointed out the battery pack is too big on Ryobi for deep engine bay use especially if working in tight spaces on Asian cars, Mil costs more but you're paying for efficient design and more compact but possibly the same insides just different brand tagged on there. So both offer great products one is just used for more compact areas where's the other as long as you have the room to work with, can't go wrong with Ryobi.
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Why did you bother doing it with the old models
*Good **MyBest.Tools** value compaired to other brands*
I love them both
Everyone complaining about the Ryobi battery needs to understand they use that same battery on all of their tools. They’re not going to design a different battery for the ratchet. With that said, arguing Milwaukee Vs. Ryobi is about as ridiculous as arguing Ford Vs. Chevy. They’re both fine.
Well said Uncle Tin!
Well said!
Uh Makita uses a smaller battery for their 3/8 ratchet. That Ryobi 3/8 ratchet design with their regular battery is just plain lazy and lacking innovation! That thing is the best laugh I've had all day.
The Ryobi needs a bigger battery. Maybe like a car battery on the bottom of it. Would only be a little bigger than the one on there.
That would be a hoot to see that!
Absolutely would be super handy to have a Interstate Megatron on the bottom,, two hands required for safety of course.
Lol.
12v vs 18v
I’m
A die hard ryobi fan, owner, user. I have that Milwaukee ratchet. I would have preferred if ryobi made a smaller battery for smaller tools, just like Milwaukee has. They mace a m12 and m18 line of tools. Ryobi could have made a small battery like the Milwaukee but still fit in the 18v charger.
with most of these tools, I think it all comes down to the battery at the end of the day. The huge battery on the Ryobi kind of defeats the purpose of the ratchet.
The cool thing like I showed in the video, is that Ryobi allows you to spin the head into 4 different positions, so the socket is now facing out the short side of the battery, now the clearance is exactly like the Milwaukee
@@jeffostroff clearance is not the same as the Ryobi. You still have 3 Inches hanging off the end of the tool no matter which way you clock the battery. In a tight spot, the Ryobi would be worthless.
@@shanestewart1498 I have a lot of the m12 and m18 Milwaukee tools and wouldn't trade them for anything, the size of the tool and battery is what I need, that huge battery just won't fit in the areas I work.
@@jeffostroff HAHA yeah that aint gonna work all the time chief. I started laughing when I saw the cryobi. Any pro knows that's worthless junk.
I have a C3 craftsman power ratchet(basically grey Ryobi). It's useless because of its massive battery. If the ratchet fits in so does an impact wrench.
Everyone has gotta start somewhere with tools, and Ryobi is definitely great for starter budget tools! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for watching!
As a mechanic it really comes down to the money and platforms you want to invest in. I wouldn't use any cordless ratchet to torque anything. They are good for fasteners bolts, quick assembly and disassembly of interior/exterior bolts. These are used more for the speed in break downs than it ever is for bolt torquing. I use Ryobi mainly because I have for years but also because I have yard equipment and other tools on the platform. Good package pricing as well. Even the most basic tool can be a super tool in the right hands...
I found them both to be good useful ratchets
I have had the Milwaukee M12 for 4+ years and I love it. I don't think That I could get by using the Ryobi just because of the size of the battery, to many tight spaces that it won't go into. I will give up the power that it looses to the 18 volt Ryobi just to keep it small.
Larry even if you spin the head around on the Ryobi? It makes it have the same clearance as the Milwaukee, at least from the front.
jeffostroff The ryobi spin feature only gives it clearance from that one side, your not accounting for the difference in length or just that now you have the huge battery sticking out the other side, for the task you did sure if wouldn’t matter much, but I’ve had to put my Milwaukee ratchet in tight spaces where it just fit, especially in automotive, places where there’s no way the ryobi would begin to fit. Example taking the bolts out of a fan on the front of the engine, bolts out of the top of a transmission, or in going deep in the engine bay where I have to slide it in and flip it all around just to get to the bolt, many times where an extra inch in length and definitely 3+ inches at the base would not cut it. For real automotive work, nothing beats the Milwaukee.
Well the funny thing about both tools are manufactured by TTi along with Hart, and Ridgid Orange power tools.
Yep, one big brand soup
Thank you for letting me know. Im looking at the Sealey brand as well
I was wondering why Rigid hasn’t released one yet. They’re tool warranty is also 3 years & has a lifetime service agreement when registered to the Rigid power tools account.
Yes but Ridgid is owned by Emerson
Hilarious
I just recently came across your videos as I'm starting out on building out my collection for my home DIY projects. Thanks to your content, I was able to snag the Ryobi with the battery and charger bundle for $89 at HD just before Christmas. Thank you!
Awesome! Thank you for the feedback Jay
That ryobi wouldn’t even fit where I’ve put my fuel 1/2 inch ratchet at. The big battery makes it useless for engine bay work. You buy Milwaukee for the battery lineup not just the tool
I want to try the M12 Fuel version of this.
plus the smoke comes out too early
jeffostroff I’ve been hearing the fuel is miles better but I’m not sure what’s improved. I have a fuel and I love it.
@@Racingboom The fuel has 55 # ft of torque the Milwaukee he is using has 35 # ft but I believe the rpms are lower I also have the fuel and love it..
Snapon walks all over the Milwaukee!! They have the best electric ratchets hands down and always will
i knew a person once who worked in the cabinet wood business and used Ryobi first gen never once said they were bad tools as a matter of fact i kinda got into ryobi because of him,but i'm not bias i've had bosch,milwaukee,dewalt and other brands i even have some corded HF stuff i can't say a bad thing about it.
Ryobi is getting better all the time.
Let's pass this video on to Project Farm. Maybe then we could get a well constructed comparison...
I'll revisit this once we get a couple of more ratchets
Definitely! This guys a dork
Yes, Project Farm is the best comparison channel on RUclips. NO ONE else even comes close!!!
Its a wrench not an impact it would never be used to drive lags or tighten lug nuts
It would never? You underestimate what people try to do with their tools
Backyard mechanic here brutha...i use the Milbaukee eheh. Thanks for post!
Right on! Thanks Noname!
12v "vs" 18v....apples vs. oranges. Anyone who has used a ratchet can also appreciate the form factor of the Milwaukee vs the Ryobi with that huge battery.
But I Love how Ryobi overcame that huge battery with the rotating head, makes it a non-issue now.
I have a lot of ryobi electric tools, because I can swap batteries as needed, but that big square battery on the end of a slim line tool could be a problem. You started the video talking about tight spaces in a car, and that battery could be a real access problem. Still I don't know if I want to go buy one milwaukee tool
@@TSKseattle Tom, didn't you see the part where I compared both tools side by side and showed how we rotate the head on the Ryobi to make the battery a non-issue?
@@jeffostroff it's not a non issue if you work in tight engine space. I've squeezed my manual ratchets into some small spaces that would not give you space for that battery at the end. I have all ryobi tools but given other options can offer a slimmer design it really puts me off the tool. If not for tight spaces then 18V every time over 12v rachet.
jeffostroff battery on the Ryobi is still a issue. Especially if working in engine bays.
Coming from an ASE Automotive Technician Milwaukee battery tools are the best out on the market and smashing all the other competitors like Dewalt and Snap on. 5 year warranty, affordable, and m12 m18 batteries all charge from one charger. It just make sense to me but that just my opinion.
Great point! Thanks for sharing Raymond
I’m 18 and have been a mechanic most of my life. I’ve never actually found a use for these. Not my cup of tea if you ask me. I’d rather take the time to unscrew a bolt “by hand” with a ratchet or even use a battery impact or air impact. I’m sure they have their place though
Battery change outs and spark plug changes.
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Wait until you have been a mechanic for double your life and get back to me. I can tell you old fingers, hands, and arms like these electric ratchets,, ahhh except that giant Ryobi.
I have been using mine now for a couple weeks and so far I like it. I work on Transit Buses for a living. I just put the 1.5 amp hour compact battery on it if I need more room.
Good to hear from a bus mechanic, thanks for the feedback on this Busjockey1!
Ryobi tools are pretty much just as good... it’s the battery platform that you chose that should inform your purchase decisions
Fortunately I have both battery platforms
I've used the milwaukee one on cars and put to MUCH abuse. You can use it as an actual locking ratchet to break lose nuts and tighten. So no need to worry about breaking anything in the head of the ratchet. Most things needing tighten and lossened with a 3/8" ratchet don't take or should take enough torque to do any damage. I have also just purchased the ryobi WITH a battery and charger for only 20$ more which seemed worth it as I was in the market for another battery. I'll see how much more I'll use it over the milwaukee.i really do like the idea of a rotating head yet you can rotate the milwaukee 360. Very thorough review .
Again you can buy the ryobi with a battery and charger now
That makes the Ryobi more attractive now with the battery in the kit. You got lucky not busting the head when nut busting or when tightening the nuts. But just be aware the Milwaukee printed instructions for this tool warn us not to do that.
@@jeffostroff yea definitely worth it with the battery and charger. And I don't do it on HEAVILY torqued bolts. Pretty much anything I wouldn't use bigger than a 3/8" ratchet on i wont use this on. And always switch to an actual ratchet to tighten. Essentially common sense. If you work on cars daily you get a feel of when something is about to break and what its limit is. But so far that past few days using the ryobi has been great. The battery did prevent me from getting into a starter signal wire bolt but swiveling the head solved that. So definitely worth it imo. Also thanks again for the review great work!!!
Not even 2 minutes in and regardless of results I’d never get the ryobi. Battery is too big for engine bays and the trigger looks awful
As long as you don't have to reach too deep, won't be a problem. Certainly we can sue it for changing spark plugs, and replacing car batteries, and on log nuts once we loosen them. Or use them to tighten lug nuts before we torque them down. Of course using on a regular basis with lug nuts, you'll likely use an impact wrench.
jeffostroff yeah I suppose I’m looking at it from my point of view as a mechanic where I’m using these things everyday. For a guy on his driveway the ryobi would be absolutely fine
I personally would never use a cordless or even pneumatic ratchet for any car with that involves having to dig deep inside somewhere to reach a fastener in a very tight space. 1) the ratchets are too bulky, regardless of what kind of battery pack is on it, and 2) if the fastener is super tight and you're not able to break it loose by hand, and you try to loosen it up with just the trigger you'll end up smacking your fingers against other parts and bruising them up, hence why these are called "knuckle busters" lol. Not saying they're bad ratchets that can't be used on cars by any means, they just need to be used in more open areas and only on fasteners that were broken loose/are not super tight to begin with. They weren't designed to be able to be used in super tight areas. Some more than others yes, but they will not be able to fit halfway up underneath an engine to reach a highly mounted starter or anything like that.
@@coytus94 power ratchet is designed to speed up work and the time saved adds up. You don't have to be able to break the fastener loose with it to benefit from the speed advantage.
I have been looking at buying the Ryobi 18v Ratchet. I have a lot of Ryobi tools so i have quit a few batteries and the 6pack changer. I do a lot of old car restoration as a hobby. it looks like a very nice tool with the exception is that it is very heavy and the battery on the end makes it kind of awkward in tights spaces. the Milwaukee is a more elegant design. its lighter and for a professional mechanic that uses it all day long that is a big difference. for someone like me that just uses it on weekends the Ryobi would be prefect and the 18v battery pack will last monger then the 12v pack. TTI makes both the Ryobi and the Milwaukee branded power tools, so I expect them to preform about the same with the advantage going to the 18v. these would be great for small jobs, but neither could replace my Campbell-Hausfeld GSD air ratchet for speed or power when working on a car. also you should never tighten lug nuts with a impact wrench. using an impact wrench can over tighten the lugs damaging the threads on the stud, damaging the wheel rim, and possibly warping the break drum or rotor. I know a lot of contractors that use Ryobi because of the price of the batteries when compared to Milwaukee or DeWalt or others. the Hart stuff is just recolored Ryobi with a different battery pack design. the guts are identical.
In the shops I only see them using impact wrenches. Maybe they set them for 100 ft-lbs and they stop?
@@jeffostroff they make what is called a "Torque Stick" that limits how much torque an impact wrench can apply. they basically act like a torsion bar a limit how much torque is applied to a fastener. the tire shop may have been using one of those. they work well, but they are not as accurate as a good torque wrench. and by good torque wrench I mean something not bought at harbor freight. the Husky, Kobalt, Craftsman, and Tekton torque wrench's are all good and moderately priced. I have had bad experiences with HF tools. and their Pittsburg line in particular is junk. I hear good things about Icon, but after my bad experiences, I am not going to switch form Tekton and my old USA made Husky tools.
@@jeffostroff I did end up buying the Ryobi 3/8 ratchet. my first one was defective right out of the box. it appears that the F/R selector was stuck in the middle and would not turn to engage the pawls. I returned it to to HD and got another one. so far the replacement has worked perfectly and just used it to replace the battery in my 1970 Camaro SS 396. worked very well and the amount of time it saved was amazing. I was a little worried after the first one was defective, but so far I am very happy with it, and its not like this is the first thing I bought that was defective right out of the box. I had this same thing happen with the Husky 33in mechanics tool cart last year... some worker at the factory installed the drawer locking mechanism incorrectly, so none of the drawers would lock with lid in the closed position. upon inspecting it, the lock mechanism was 180 degrees backwards. the one good thing I can say about shopping at HD is the returns department took care of it with no hassle.
I've been a professional contractor for 35 years and Ryobi has really upped it's game. Sure, the high-end brands are still a little better in most cases, but Ryobi is on their heels. Their tools perform well, they last, and they are priced right! I actually use Ryobi in my home shop due to the shear selection of tools that will all use the same battery and the low cost. It's served me very well.
I think Ryobi will blur the lines on this HP lieneup.
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Snort it through one nostril for maximum effect
If you actually did tests instead of depending on spes from the manufacturers you would see the Milwaukee has a much faster RPM
Milwaukee does not have a "much faster" RPM, they both have the same RPM, and they both have the same 35 ft-lbs
@@jeffostroff No load is over 400 RPM on the Milwaukee.
From an electrician of 20 years of industrial and construction Ryobi is great for home, not quit tough enough for commercial or industrial work. The bodies flex too much under load, frequently pinching the palm of my hand. The motors stall out before long before Ridgid, Milwakee or Dewalt. Many of the Ryobi motor gears are polymer and do not stand up to abuse. They are cheap for a reason. I use Ryobi for home use. I bought into the brand explicitly for the cordless fan and have acquired several more Ryobi tools with no regrets.
Good info!
this isn't what the tool was built for... lol. It's a ratchet, not an impact driver. I'm 100% sure if you tried to drive that screw with an M12 impact over a Ryobi impact, yeah, different story. Do appreciate the video though. Very thurough
Both manuals have warnings about this. Milwaukee says this "Do not force the power tool. Use the correct power tool for your application. The correct power tool will do the job better and safer at the rate for which it was designed." AND ALSO, from the Ryobi User guide it says this "NOTICE: Do not turn the tool off and attempt to use the tool manually to gain extra torque on the nut or bolt being tightened. Doing so could cause damage to the fastener and/or the tool."
For engine bay work, the ryobi is worthless. Rotating head will help in some spots, but the battery will keep you from putting that thing deep in any engine bay.
Thanks for sharing, I can go fairly deep with no problem. It's only an issue when you have to go way down or squeeze into an area where there is no space. But for common repairs like removing batteries, spark plugs, changing main engine gasket, all of those common repairs are reachable with the Ryobi as well.
Ryobi is prosumer. I've used their products for years. The short coming has always been battery life. Ni-cad let me down, My fault leaving them in the charger all the time. Just bought the new green line. Lot less expensive and same or better specs.
Yes I always tell people with all those old school nicad batteries to ditch those old systems even if you have to pay money to upgrade to a newer brushless motor with lithium ion batteries their lives will be much much better there will be much happier with newer more modern more powerful and lighter tools
Good video Jeff. I was quite impressed with the Ryobi cordless ratchet. The safety aspect of proper torque on the lug nuts is important. Going a step further, no critical nuts or bolts should be considered tight enough by using the cordless ratchets. Including brake and suspension parts, etc. Always finish up with the factory torque specifications using a calibrated torque wrench. Thanks for the review!!!
Great point! Thanks Dale!
@@jeffostroff I also noticed that the Ryobi drove the lag past the shoulder and sunk the hex head in the wood. Whereas the Milwaukee didn't even make it to the shoulder. Good for Ryobi, they take an unnecessary verbal beating by some.
*Facepalm* The Milwaukee is better. The Ryobi isn't nearly as capable. Let's not forget a 6Ah Fuel Milwaukee will outperform the Ryobi in every aspect. Also it's a ratchet not an impact.
Absolutely recheck all important nuts and bolts. Twice I had lug nuts come loose after using a battery powered impact. I always recheck them now.
They are the same tool under the covers. slight changes in outer shell. milwaukee, rigid, ryobi are the same company. They used to swap out plastic for metal, and sometimes better motors but lately they don't even do that to keep costs down. Notice that the rigid and ryobi are starting to look alike? I have friends that work at the factory, even swapped out made our own version of tools.
I'd like to see a red/green/orange version!
I own many Milwaukee and Ryobi Tools, love them both with no complaints. Ryobi is more budget friendly and I never run into a job a Ryobi tool can't handle.
I do have the Milwaukee ratchet but my garage is full of green. My concern here is the smoke exerted by the Ryobi. You put the Milwaukee through its paces but smoke was not apparent.
Yes, I was straining both of those drivers, and on automotive work probably won't be that harsh
Hi Jeff, i'm a big fan of you're tool reviews and Home Depot visits. Greetings from Bolivia!!!
Awesome, thank you! All the way from Bolivia! But no Home Depot there? How do you guys get tools like this over there?
@@jeffostroff Yes, sadly, some guys sell those tools to higher prices here. But already i'm trying to contact to HD's export area, to buy some Milwaukees and/or Ryobis. And if it doesn't work, I hope to visit Florida next year or soon, to see more options. So if you have any tips for me, I will be very grateful.
Three tool lines. Looks like me. Dewalt drill, Milwaukee and Ryobi ratchet. I have a Bosch 18v ½" pistol and right angle drill, a whole bunch of Ryobi 18v+ tools, and Kobalt ½" and ⅜" impact guns and 4" angle grinder.
ryobi could have easily built that rachet with an internal battery like husky. The battery defeats the purpose of the tool (fitting into small areas).
And to be fair your using a small battery on Milwaukee and the tool is 3 years old
And to be fair, a big battery on the tool isn't going to give more power to the tool, or make it spin faster, don't know where you come up with this nonsense.
Yeah, you're not supposed to use a ratchet with a bolt going into a small pilot hole. Thats what the impact driver is for. Removing it from an already anchored bolt would be more realistic. Plus a 12v vs an 18v is not a apples to apples comparisons.
Even though it is 12v vs 18 v, they are the same 35 ft-lb torque and 250 RPM, why would that not be the same thing?
I bought into the Milwhackoff 12v system just for this ratchet and the FUEL 90 degree impact wrench. It's compact and easier to fit in tight spaces and the price isn't an immediate turnoff like Snap-On. I just find myself wishing for a Makita version because Milwaukee seems to cheap out on tools that aren't flagship models. Noticeable difference in build quality between the affordable brushed and overpriced FUEL stuff. Makita seems to keep quality and design the same across brushed and brushless versions of the same tool for less money. TTI is milking the brand name.
I need to score a Fuel version of this tool also.
Makita does have a ratchet on the CXT line and I like it better then the Milwaukee. It has interchangeable anvils so you get a 1/4" and 3/8"
@@craigdoesstuff5270 Is that the one that does 800 Rpms? Would be real nice for somebody that puts tons of nuts and bolts in just one after another and needs it done fast. For automotive the battery was a little much but other than that i'm sure if you're in the lineup it would be nice to have.
@@craigdoesstuff5270 Makita also has a CXT impact wrench. I use mine for my lightweight jobs, and it is much more powerful than a cordless ratchet. For heavier work I use more powerful impact wrenches. These cordless ratchets seem to be way underpowered for real life applications.
Finally!!! good job Jeff my opinion is milwaukee had a 12v 1.5 ah battery vs ryobi 18v battery, if you try a xc-6ah on the milwaukee i think it could of out perform the ryobi. price wise yes ryobi is coming out with some competitor that are making people go DAMM!!!
I plan to experiment more with the batteries
Actually the 4.0 m12 batteries will give your tool the most power output, they use LG 2100mah cells which have the highest discharge current.
Nice video, but little suggestion. I wouldn’t use a crowbar to tighten lugs.
Impact wrench?
Actually with these electric ratchets they are designed to be used as ratchets. You break the fastener free using it as a ratchet manually and then you drive it out electronically. Or you drive it in electronically till it stops and then tighten it manually as a ratchet.
Sorry you are wrong. Both manuals have warnings about this. Milwaukee says this "Do not force the power tool. Use the correct power tool for your application. The correct power tool will do the job better and safer at the rate for which it was designed." AND ALSO, from the Ryobi User guide it says this "NOTICE: Do not turn the tool off and attempt to use the tool manually to gain extra torque on the nut or bolt being tightened. Doing so could cause damage to the fastener and/or the tool."
jeffostroff really lol...... I’m not wrong at all. That’s why they call it a ratchet. You clearly don’t know how those are used. You are using them like a right angle impact wrench which these aren’t. They are a ratchet. Keyword ratchet.....Manually break a fastener loose or tighten. When the manual says do not force the power tool that means do not use it like a impact wrench to break fasteners free or tighten them like you are doing. That’s why they only are rated for 35 ft/lbs torque because you break them loose manually then drive out the fastener. For how you are using these ratchets you want the tool below from Milwaukee. Sorry but I’m not wrong. These are ratchets for a reason, ask any mechanic how they are supposed to be used.
www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Wrenches/2564-20
jeffostroff the ryobi Manual probably says that because it’s not really designed for real professional trade use. It’s more for the diy guy on the weekend etc. The rotating head is a weak point for being used as a ratchet. The Milwaukee is designed to compete with pneumatic ratchets.
He is not wrong at all Jeff, I’ve been using the newer fuel versions and have beat the breath out of them using them as a ratchet, and have never broken the head, stripped the gears, or broken the plastic clamshell.
Mystery Comment.....I agree with you 100% even though they both state not to do so, but with that being said then what’s the damn use in even buying these ratchets if you can’t use them as a ratchet?!! Kind of pointless in my opinion. I mean who the hell is going to loosen a tight bolt with a regular ratchet and then switch out to the electric one to finish it out and then vice versa when reinstalling?! I guess these are great for someone more on the lazy side
Ryobi has a bit of advantage because of the battery 18 vs 12 volt but yes budget wise Ryobi...Also i don't like the big battery on the Ryobi in tight spots it wont work...
I like the Milwaukee way better it's more compact easier to work on tight spaces ryobi battery is just to dam Big
Mario Ryobi is the same exact size when you rotate the head around so that it faces the skinny side.
@@jeffostroff It's the same until you need to shove the tool into a hole deeper than the battery.
@@jeffostroff you're a tool
Milwaukee 12v vs Ryobi 18v come on ????
Use your head. They both have the same RPM and the same Torque spec. Battery voltage probably has no bearing on this.
Why not using the current model from Milwaukee n redo the test??? The one u have on hand is like 4 years old model. By the way, even the torque n rpm r similar on both Ryobi n Milwaukee, Voltage DOES make a huge different, u have to put on consideration of battery voltage drop under load, bla bla bla ... this video is not a fair comparison to me.
@@jun2611 it is a fair comparison because of the price.
Cool, I might get one. This was helpful, because it’ll probably end up being between the Ryobi and the new M12 fuel high speed ratchet Milwaukee just announced.
I want to get a Fuel version, for more torque
@@jeffostroff yeah, that would definitely be cool.
Thank u for not cursing good video God bless
No problem thanks for watching junior
You have to take into consideration that the Ryobi is 18 V and the Milwaukee is 12.... I would expect the Ryobi to be a little more powerful just for that reason but I can see for sure that the Milwaukee will last a lot longer In terms of longevity
I want to upgrade to the brushess Fuel Ratchet and try that one.
jeffostroff ...Yeah the fuel is supposed to be more powerful even though it's still 12 V
@@devilefan recent got a 3/8 stubby fuel for 130.tool only...omgosh can do brakes on my 01 Silverado...its beast!
noname given .... That's not a bad price.... i'm not a mechanic so I don't really need the fuel version..lol...I got the other one just for basic nuts and bolts
@@jeffostroff Could also try a more powerful battery on the M12s.
Is obvious that the 18v will do more work than the 12v, get an 18v Milwaukee ratchet then talk to me
Yes I plan to upgrade to the Fuel soon, just waiting for a deal of the day or something interesting.
Lol compare tools based on price not voltage.
Idk man, quite a few of my coworkers use Milwaukee cordless tools and swear by them BUT I’ve been seeing their tools crapping out on them A LOT lately.
I’m a Dewalt guy myself but when I need a tool that I’m Not going to use a lot, like this Ryobi ratchet that I’m considering buying, I will buy the tool only and just use my Dewalt to Ryobi battery adapter. $30 on Amazon...works great!!
That's a cool idea!
I don't know if either if these are intended to drive lag bolts. Use an impactor for that.
Not even close, they are rated for 35 ft-lbs, light duty. Once you nut bust the lug nuts, then you can use this to spin it off, or on the bolt, i do this all the time
I agree ryobi getting Better with more compact brushless tools.. the prices coming up a bit on those but they seem to work very well
I like their 3" cutoff tool
Looks like you covered everything. Great video, a ton of information, all of which is useful!
Glad you enjoyed it!
By the way, pointing that laser at your camera is a good way to burn out the CCD chip. You can see in the video how it tried to crank down the exposure to that light
That's why I did it real fast.
I have both which do I like most ? The milwaukee . The milwaukee can definitely get in tighter places . But if you like a low cost tool the Roy I is not that bad and it will save you time .
both perform equally for me
So I noticed on the car the Ryobi stripped the threads it appears. The Milwaukee stopped the bolt when it was at the torque level was reached, but the Ryobi kept spinning the bolt until you stopped it. Looked stripped. This video could have been drastically shortened with keeping to the important things.
That explanation on torque wrench use was hilarious. Wear it out?
Remember these are light use 35 ft-lbs max
Agree.
Sorry bro your wrong.. You can use electronic ratchets by hand like a regular ratchet they are designed for that they are meant for you to use them by hand to loosen the bolt then use the trigger to take it out Fast and can be done to tighten as well if you choose more then likley you won't do it by hand on tightening though when you can just use the powerof the ratchet instead @7:59 @Jeffostroff
Sorry bro you are wrong, Milwaukee's instructions specifically state not to do that. Remember it's a 35 ft lb rated tool, and you could easily surpass that trying to use the tool as a manual ratchet
@@jeffostroff I don't think you understood what I was saying I agreed with you on using it as a regular ratchet to tighten items I disagreed with you because you are suppose to use it as a regular ratchet to loosen bolts then use the electric part to take it out Fast I referenced 2 different things in my first message
Sorry but the Milwaukee M12 is the best including the M18. The M12 can fit places the M18 and Ryobi just can't. So the M12 wins this shoot out.
It wins the tight fit challenge.
@@jeffostroff I have one and it comes in handy in a variety jobs.
Great video. The Ryobi doesn't appear to be available in Ireland which is disappointing, especially as I already have the batteries and charger ready to go !
Can you get it from amazon with international shiiping?
@@jeffostroff I probably could, thanks Jeff, but the shipping cost and duty we pay here would probably double the cost 😁. I'll get my hands on one by hook or by crook ! lol
hopefully ryobi launches a full cordless ratchet lineup, brushed and brushless
That would be a nice offering
The m12 fuel is a beast compared to the brushed.
I need to upgrade to the fuel.
@@jeffostroff I use the smaller one for smaller fasteners I might overtorque with the fuel.just the head on the fuel weighs a bunch more.
The fuel model is terrible, the head is way to big
Only thing that bites is the way the battery is, i understand iits an 18v battery but you think ryobi would have oriented it where it was the least slim. If it was angled right with a compact 1.5ah battery it might fit into some tighter areas. I men if milwaukee made an 18v ratchet itd be the same way. Il probably get the ryobi just bc i have an air ratchet for when i need somthing slim and i already have a 18v ryobi set, i also have 1/2in 2767 high torque milwaukee impact wrench kit, came with 2 5ah batteries, a rubber boot, led light and an impact socket set on sale for 4.79. For the money you just cant beat that milwaukee impact wrench its a monster. Just got a milwaukee blower too but for most other tools ryibi is more than adequate. I might even get there new 1/2in hp impact wrench bc its so compact and powerful. But its hard to justify bc i have a decent air supply but sometimes you dont have access to the compressor and its nice to not have the hose sometimes.
Believe me though that rotating head they put on there is a great design feature that really does help move the battery out of the way in certain cases. But yes Ryo be is limited by their battery design that hasn't changed in years and they really need to come up with a slim battery elect those smaller Milwaukee M12 CP batteries that are basically little cylinders that would help tremendously
I just use a 90 degree attachment for my impact
Good idea, but how do you get the impact to fit all the way down deep?
Well I've been in the market for a ratchet. (I just work on my person vehicles usually toyota cars) i got the m18 fuel 1/2 mid torque and the 90 degree m12 impact (it a crazy how small and powerful it is) I think I'm gonna go with a ryobi for the ratchet I have an adaptor for my m18 to ryobi tools that I run my recip saw and my lawnmower/ weed trimmer. Both are great brands dont let a battery hold you back go buy a 25 dollar adapter and live freely.
That's a novel idea on the adapter!
My opinion with the ryobi. They should have just put the head on backwards and made the head fixed. From my experience, anytime they have a tool with a rotating head they are not very strong. It would not surprise me if that ryobi didnt last very long
This is a light duty tool not meant to be a very strong tool anyway it is only rated for 35 foot pounds so whatever you're concerned about I don't think it's even an issue for them
I would have liked to see you use a fully charged XC battery pack on the Milwaukee since it was against a tool with 6 more volts and ?more amp hours. XC packs put out more amps under load and can make a big difference.
Pros don't generally use Ryobi because they don't hold up over time. Another couple of seconds on that lag screw and that Ryobi would have let out the smoke for the last time. And it's brand new! It lacks the protection circuitry that the Milwaukee has to keep from damaging the tool and the battery. That circuitry cost money to make.
For weekend warriors or guys starting out on a tight budget, it may make sense. Some contractors do buy Ryobi because their crews will destroy whatever brand they provide and consider them disposable.
Just like GM makes both Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, TTI makes 4 lines of cordless power tools. And just like GM's cars, TTI's tools are for different levels of buyers.
Hart at Wal-Mart, no explanation necessary. To early to discuss how they will last.
Ryobi are entry level/consumer tools. Usually work fine for a short while and suddenly die.
Rigid licensed by Emerson, prosumer tools. No where near the quality of the actual RIGID hand tools used by plumbers and electricians everywhere. Rigid in name only, though decent quality.
Milwaukee is the premium line used by pros in the same league as DeWalt and Makita.
Each has their niche and price point that caters to the respective buyer. Premium brands cost more because they are made to higher standards with better components. Yes, some components will cross brand boundaries. But when you look at the materials and electronics inside, the difference is apparent. Heavier wiring, potted electronics, higher quality machining, better fit and finish, stronger plastics with more glass fiber reinforcement, better warranties, better batteries, etc, etc. No company makes perfect tools. But you generally get what you pay for.
So Mike, I don't think adding a more powerful battery gives you more power. That's a mistake many people make with regard to power tools. A Higher capacity battery just gives you longer battery life. The motor is set to perform at the speed it performs once it sees 12V. the only tools we know of that produce more power and torque with a larger batter are Dewalt's new PowerDetect series introduced in March.
@@jeffostroff That's mostly false. The bullet battery in that tool has 3 cells. XC packs have 6. That is twice the available amps as they are two parallel banks of 3cells each in series. Now, testing the 3 cell packs against each other you are probably correct. I.e. a 3ah battery likely wouldn't show a performance increase over a 2ah pack. Only runtime would change. And likewise with the 3,4 and 6ah XC packs when compared against each other. I cannot say for sure that this particular tool can draw enough amps under severe load to make a difference though. I do know that the battery and tool "talk" to each other and if either reaches an overload threshold, the circuitry will cut power to the motor. I own over 100 Milwaukee cordless tools, both M12 and M18. That obviously doesn't make me the foremost expert on the topic, but I use them every day.(not all of them of course) And I know my tools. Due to the compactness and performance of the M12 tools, they are the ones I tend to use the most. I can tell you from experience that the larger packs will produce more power under load than the compact packs. And with either pack there is a noticeable difference in power between a battery with 4 bars and one with 1 or 2 bars. For instance, one of the common tasks I perform is to drill and tap 2 1/4-20 holes and one 1-1/8 hole in 1/4 in mild steel and sometimes AR plate. The bullet packs easily drill and tap the 1/4-20 hole without issue. But if I try to drill the 1-1/8 hole with a thin wall hole saw, it will constantly cut out. When I switch to an XC pack, it plows right through with no cutouts. I can say with absolute certainty that the M12 drills, impacts, circular saws, inflator, die grinders, cutoff saw, polisher, and vacuum all perform much better with XC packs. Low drain tools like lights, soldering iron, stapler, caulk gun etc don't draw enough power to show any noticeable difference. I think the ratchet falls into that "maybe, maybe not" category until I see it tested or test it myself. An odd side note: Some lower capacity packs have cell chemistry that enables higher drain rates than their higher capacity brothers, giving higher performance with less runtime. I think this all is a great topic for a video in the future. Simply drive a lag with a compact battery and switch to an XC pack and see if it makes a repeatable difference. Sorry to be so long winded. It's a curse of mine. haha! Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day. Awesome testing technique!
Thanks for watching!
The ratchet and the Brad nailer from ryobi seem to be very well reviewed tools. Not much else. I just got the Brad nailer and it is living up to the reviews.
I heard a number of guys on our livestream in Home Depot also tell me the Ryobi nailer was good.
@@jeffostroff I thought the Ryobi nailer was decent too when I used my co-workers until my boss bought me the fuel 18 Brad nailer as a bonus for a job and HOLY CRAP does it shit all over the Ryobi. Not just in ergonomics but in battery usage and nail depth consistency as well
10:26 you never tightened the bolt all the way, because you were afraid you were going to strip the bolt ;)
Defeated the purpose of the test, just saying should have used it on a bigger bolt.
It tightened all the way you can hear the clutch disengage.
Love the video quality also how you respond to every comment great reviews but I have a question what do you think of the air rachets
Air ratchets are the best! They are especially used for lug nuts as they can handle the torque required, often over 100 ft-lbs for lug nuts. But for tight work inside the engine, you might be better off with the smaller and more mobile Milwaukee and Ryobi.
You will find that milwaukee and ryobi are built by the same manufacturer as ryobi is level entry tools but highly popular and rather robust as the milwaukee. But i would agree with the ryobi battery on a tool that size far to big and about time they did a smaller battery.
An R12 battery would be nice from Ryobi, LOL
@@jeffostroff the funniest thing over here in the uk the ryobi batteries are mote expensive than the milwaukee lol
A cordless ratchet definitely isn't the right tool for lugnuts on a car. A cordless impact wrench would be the tool for that and also torque isn't something you need much of for a cordless ratchet since you can manually use the electric ratchet for applying torque to a fastener once you have ran the fastener down snug.
Milwaukee is a Chinese company with a name from an American city. They both have the same parent company. I prefer Dewalt for being an American company manufacturing in Taiwan
I wish Dewalt would give us a ratchet already
Love the video Jeff and people still keep bashing Ryobi well the proof is now fact you showed what can and cannot be done with each. I sent you an email what a picture of the new Milwaukee packout tool box with drawers I saw a picture of it from Vince from VGC not sure on pricing part number or availability at this time
Thanks, awesome photo. Are they coming out with new other Packout cases also?
@@jeffostroff I have no idea maybe Vince they have a better inside track let's see if he makes a video about it and if he comment on any other new items that may be coming out or available according to the rumors that box may go for about $150
enjoyed the comparison of both tools, interesting to see how the ryobi holds up.
You and me both!
That battery sticking out makes it almost impossible to use< at least on Hondas. You barely have space for stick your hand in some areas
I got news for you, in many areas you can't even get your hand in with a ratchet or a stubby wrench, so no need to grip about this. These are made for all the nuts and bolts that you can reach from the top of the engine.
Is that a boot leg milwaukee battery it looks like it from the bottom of it
Shhhhh, our little secret
12v VS 18v ???!!!!!!
Really doe snot matter, both tools have the same specs, the same Torque rating of 35 ft pounds, and the the same RPMs. I just did it to show the difference between the 2 tools, not for an apples to apples comparison.
@@jeffostroff You can put a 4Ah or 2Ah battery on the Milwaukee. Can you get 35 ft pounds for both cases? Common sense tells us not. You should check the details of how to get the specified resultw.
As with most tests done on you tube, the tester obviously wants the Milwaukee to be the clear winner, however personally I’m much more impressed with the ryobi due to the performance and the cost is so much less? Milwaukee is a great tool, but for joe average, you can’t always beat the more economical offerings…….
I liked the ryobi better for its versatility
Great work Jeff 💪
Glad you liked it!
the way Ryobi battery is positioned is a deal breaker for me. It's so bulky.
Are you kidding me with the size of the battery on the end of that thing?
I can easily get to most bolts on the upper part of the engine. anything down tight, not even the Milwaukee can get to, you need to start adding 12" extenders.
I’m shocked at how unnecessarily big the ryoby battery is
People have been complaining about this for years. Everyone was hoping in August at their new product announcements of the HP tools that they would have a redesign of the battery, but no deal.
It's a universal battery for all their 18v tools. I use that battery on chop saws, drills, grinder, flashlight, radio, fan. Their catalog of tools is nuts.
18v Milwaukee will wipe the floor with the Ryobi any day of the week
They are both rated with the same RPMs and the same 35 ft-lbs of torque
I wonder if you use a bigger battery on the Milwaukee would it do better
Well the tools are both rated 35 ft-lbs I doubt increasing the voltage will do anything if they put voltage regulation in
I would have gone for the ryobi if the battery wasn't that big. I bought the milwaukee m12. I have a ryobi impact wrench for almost 2 years and it still works great.
So the ryobi has a bit more power to handle that larger bolt because it runs on an 18v battery right and the milwaukee is 12v. Also i think you are using a 3 or 4ah on the ryobi in this video is it not? Looks a little too big for it to be the 2ah one that it comes with
The Ryobi is a tool only. I should try my 1.5 on it and see if it works as strong, not sure I did that one yet.
jeffostroff Online there is an option for charger and two batteries(2ah). Im sure that is a big factor with it being 18v and 4ah. There was another video somehwere on youtube of a guy doing a review on a ryobi tool and got different results on the same job when he would swap between lower and higher amp batteries.
That battery on Ryobi is just ridiculous
It is huge!
Cordless ratchets are not meant for lag bolts or lug nuts. Use the appropriate impact tool.
Stop being an English teacher. For Pete's sake we test tools on everything whether you think it's right nor not. I bet you were jsut sitting there all night waiting for the right video to criticize.
Great video!! Milwaukee came out with a M12 Fuel 1/2 inch and 3/8 inch Right Angle Impact Wrench!! M12!!
Thanks for the info!Yes, we showed the 1/2" on the display at Home Depot during this video.
This would be an awesome video to do on the new Fast ratchets from Milwaukee as well as the fuel models from Milwaukee vs the brushed Milwaukee and the ryobi in one video @Jeffostroff
Yes with a boatload of cash influx I could buy the other 2, these ratchets are pricey from Milwaukee
@@jeffostroff you are right they are pricey didn't realize you didn't have them I have all the brushed and brushless ratchets including the extended ratchets just don't have the speed ratchets yet
I've got the Ryobi wrench, great for the price and performance.
But, it's not an impact wrench. Also, the big ass battery on the Ryobi means the Milwaukee would obviously get into more tighter spacers.
So, I've got the Ryobi, but the Milwaukee wrench has that one advantage.
At 35 ft lb it is not intended to be an impact wrench it is more like an electric ratchet wrench
Great review! Looking forward to the Hart 20v pressure washer review!
You and me both! Hope to start filming that one tomorrow, had lot so setbacks last week with rain, heat, emergencies, then my Dewalt Toughsystem 2.0 boxes arrived a week early and took priority
Looking forward to that one also. Maybe a comparison with the Ryobi??
Ryobi had no problem with the 1/2 lag because it has a massive 4.0ah batteries and its a 20v tool compared to a 12 volt tool the Milwaukee might perform better with a xc 4.0ah battery @Jeffostroff
The Ryobi motor is rated at the same 35 ft lb
@@jeffostroff I understand it's rated at the same 35 ft pounds but ryobi under rates there tools on paper and 20v tools will give more initial torque because higher voltage also means higher ampage dump from the battery compared to a 12v tool its ohms law
Someone pointed out the battery pack is too big on Ryobi for deep engine bay use especially if working in tight spaces on Asian cars, Mil costs more but you're paying for efficient design and more compact but possibly the same insides just different brand tagged on there.
So both offer great products one is just used for more compact areas where's the other as long as you have the room to work with, can't go wrong with Ryobi.
Great point!
Nice vid, just felt like I watched about 10 adverts in 1 minute lol
Without a doubt RUclips has been cramming ads on videos like crazy. I'm always ready to hit that skip button as soon as it becomes highlighted
Did you put the drill in reverse when you pulled the drill bit out of the wood??? 👀
cant remember
Good comparison, Ryobi and Milwaukee are owned by the same company: Techtronic Industries
Thanks glad you like dthe video!