Ira Has A Nobody and Became the leader of twilight town | Kingdom Hearts 4 Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @thegummiphone
    @thegummiphone 2 года назад +15

    Marty’s video on “Luxu’s mansion” is really good with this. I was thinking the other day. What if everyone in Twilight Town was a strong willed Nobody that grew a heart because they lived in this town and became regular people again? It does exist in the realm between, which is where Nobodies are born. Even Hayner, Pence, and Olette. Such an idea could even give Hayner Pence and Olette a bigger role in the story that previously thought possible. I imagine Twilight Town may be under a spell like the Castle Oblivion trick. I say this because Castle Oblivion was a world between too, and we know it is The Land of Departure that belongs in the realm of Light. We could also consider it from the perspective of the Final Fantasy characters who appeared here. Seifer, Raijin and Fujin, Vivi, and Setzer. We know Seifers gang were kinda traitors and Seifer himself became Edea’s sorceress knight. Which the idea of sorceress def points at Namine and Riku’s ‘ship. Then Vivi was basically a Black Mage “puppet”. And as for Setzer, it could be tough to say why Nomura chose him. Perhaps a hint towards Luxord, or maybe he is the airship specialist in TT like Cid.

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад +3

      Yeah bro that theory is very interesting, I'm going to do some research on it and try to find more evidence pointing towards Twilight Town being a land for nobody's who developed hearts. This theory is very cool

    • @polydipsiac
      @polydipsiac 9 месяцев назад

      Could you link to Marty’s channel or the “Luxu’s mansion” video itself?

  • @flowtilla1
    @flowtilla1 2 года назад +3

    Talk that S#*T my Boi this is a Amazing theory that’s why I love this channel you push the bar and think like Tetsuya

  • @flowtilla1
    @flowtilla1 2 года назад +4

    I can see everything you said coming to fruition ☑️

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 2 года назад +7

    I just realised something: there has to be a reason for those rumours to be a thing 🤔 about the mansion being HAUNTED

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад +1

      Exactly and another thing to add on, nobodies have supernatural abilities like being able to walk through walls, turning invisible, and levitating/flying/floating. Ira's nobody was the leader of Twilight town but he's a nobody so the townspeople we're scared to deal with him but because he is a strong-willed headstrong character he cared deeply about the people Twilight Town

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 2 года назад

      @@mysticmal6578 oh yeah

  • @TrijayDCKA
    @TrijayDCKA 2 года назад +5

    I'm glad people starting to realize there's possibly some significance to the mansion. This might be stretching things out, but I think the only way we'll know about ira is through Kairi's memories. Perhaps there's a small chance that Ava had reincarnated into Kairi as she descends from Vor from dark road, that is if the theory of Vor being Kairi's grandmother is true. However I'm also open to the possibility that ava is Kairi's grandmother, since it makes more sense than her grandmother knows the story of the age of fairy tales. If this is true about ira being connected to the mansion, I would wonder where would this fall to place along the storyline? We would probably find anything out about the foretellers until kh4 comes out or maybe we'll get something from missing link, or hopefully dark road since that's the closest release date for the series. Since namin'e is the only clue we really have for the mansion, I wonder why her hair is blonde if she's the nobody of Kairi. In fact she's living proof that you don't need to have a fancy anagram to have a nobody name. I'm not sure it was mentioned why she was named Namin'e, but im gonna do some research of my own after I finish commenting. As for the pods, if I'm not mistaken I think they actually have something to do with the project of subject X hence the whole "this was used before" aspect. Also it was used for the replica program, again I'm not 100% sure but I think that's what they were there for. It's been a while since kh2 for me but I think there were a few of them, then Donald and goofy were in one of each, then obviously sora in that special room. I'm thinking that pod was a clue about subject x because I think apprentice xehanort was working on bringing the union leaders to the present time due to the faint memories he had as player from union cross era since we know now that xehanort is an incarnation of player, this makes me think that because of the passwords he types in to enter the chamber of repose which it could possibly be the names of his companions in dark road.
    But I'm trailing too far off topic, I just hope we get a little hint from dark road at least, only a couple months away.

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад +3

      Yes definitely, I have been working on this theory behind the scenes for a while now and I finally have the perfect amount of evidence to prove this true. Tetsuya Nomura always said "what's in Kingdom Hearts is not there for no reason" there's more to this mansion that meets the eye, and it's hidden past. All the context clues that I said in the video aligns with the story. I have part 2 to this Theory coming out today😏. I can guarantee that we are going to get Kingdom Hearts 3.5 remix and a playable game or a cinematic movie based around this Theory and the story of Ira's nobody will be included in Kingdom Hearts 3.5 remix. The setting of this Theory and chronologically this game will take place during kingdom hearts unchained X/ Union X because Ira's heart fell to Darkness at the end of Kingdom Hearts X during the keyblade War. Thus forming his Nobody. I believe Ava is kairi's grandmother. We might get a Kingdom Hearts 3.5 remix before Kingdom Hearts 4 gets released. Eventhough I don't mind kingdom hearts 4 coming out first

  • @eduardogarcia9019
    @eduardogarcia9019 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hmmm wouldnt it be interesting that the pot that was used before was on Subject X

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  8 месяцев назад

      Exactly! in Kingdom Hearts 3, why would Ansem seeker of darkness bring Ansem the wise to the mansion? When you examine the pods, why do they say things like "this was used before"? There is a lot more to uncover here at the mansion. I'm currently making a new video on it. Please Subscribe if you haven't and stay tuned! May your heart be your guiding key, let's grow this Mystic family

    • @eduardogarcia9019
      @eduardogarcia9019 8 месяцев назад

      👍

  • @KewlImp
    @KewlImp 2 года назад +3

    The mansion thing was just a theme for the house. It was never planned to be a foreteller's home. Nomura is a discovery writer, not a planner. Union X came out a decade later. I'm nearly 40 and I plenty of lions around my house. The mansion is no different, it was something that the owner liked. Or young girls, Namine might like unicorns so it was decorated like that. As far as the haunted house, its abandoned. The people of Twilight Town probably are more scared of it because one or two people thought they saw something moved and it spread through the town.
    Ira having a heartless and nobody is kind of interesting though. And there can be a lot to explore, but the mansion honestly has no connection. Well, it has no connection from the point of KH2 view. The pods being used before is another interesting point, but not in direct connection to Ira. More than likely, DiZ and Riku or the organization was using them.

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 2 года назад +1

      Even so….I’d love the idea of foreshadowing 😜 I mean remember how Recoded mentions a book of prophecy (which Maleficent is the one to first say it) and then we got X and UX🙃 it’s pretty cool
      After all writing tends to be planning as we go😉

    • @SShaBazzz
      @SShaBazzz 2 года назад +1

      I think the mansion was planned.
      However, the whole Ira having a nobody makes no sense because it is never stated that he was turned into a heartless. For Ira to have a nobody, he would have needed to turn into a heartless. But in the war, I'm pretty sure it's stated that they all killed each other.

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 2 года назад +3

    Gosh not a lot of people have done videos on the old mansion🤔

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад +2

      Yeah there is a mystery to be solved here and this is it. this is the only thing that makes sense and this aligns with the events of the foretellers coming back to life at the end of kingdom hearts 3 because when a nobody and a heartless are destroyed, the original person comes back to life. Which explains the resurrection of the foretellers. The foretellers fell to Darkness and were struck down by keyblades. And all the foretellers were strong-willed people with a strong heart, so a human nobody is very possible. It makes perfect sense, how do you feel about this topic?

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 2 года назад +1

      @@mysticmal6578 mmm it’s interesting how the X saga helps us see the connection between the mansion and Ira 😅

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 2 года назад +1

      @@mysticmal6578 well if Ira’s nobody somehow made the mansion well that would be pretty cool 😊

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад +1

      @@gracekim25 exactly it makes perfect sense. It would be awesome that Ira built the mansion. Even when you walk inside of the old mansion in the middle of the main hall there will be a Podium with a castle figurine in it, the glass case is shattered and the castle figurine is broken down and torn in half. Which would symbolize Daybreak Town Falling to Darkness

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 2 года назад

      @@mysticmal6578 hmm interesting I’ll have to check it again if I ever decide to replay KH2 for the billionth time🤣

  • @hornedskullasmr7811
    @hornedskullasmr7811 2 года назад +1

    Maybe the mansion will make an appearance in another title? I doubt it'll take place in missing link(though maybe as a cameo)

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад

      For sure bro, The Mansion holds many secrets and Ira is behind all of them. there are unicorns everywhere in the mansion! and on top of that, the mansion is in shambles as if a great battle took place there. the timelines from kingdom hearts x(chi)/Union/Dark Road and Missing Link match up. Ira's Nobody vs. Luxu??? seems like it. What do you think?

  • @fluffalpenguin
    @fluffalpenguin 2 года назад +1

    This video would've been significantly improved by showing us the unicorns in the old mansion while you're saying "THERE'S SO MANY UNICORNS IN THE OLD MANSION"

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад

      I got you bro, I figured it is very memorable in kingdom Hearts 2. There is a unicorn head statue near the basement, then a unicorn statue in the backyard, two unicorn statues near the glass door as soon as you enter the mansion, and what I believe to be a Daybreak town Castle figurine that's broken down to symbolize Daybreak Town falling to Darkness. Got it Memorized? By the way I'm making another video on this

  • @MovieMadness23
    @MovieMadness23 2 года назад +2

    I would be more willing to believe this theory if it weren’t for the fact that we see the Foretellers in the KH3 epilogue

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад +1

      I see what you're saying but remember, I'm speaking more on Ira's nobody. During the Kingdom Hearts 3 epilogue Luxu/Braig said "I hope you like long stories" we know that luxu went through many changes since his role began in Kingdom Hearts x. And the foretellers manifested and we know when a heartless and a nobody meets its demise, the original person gets resurrected. for example, ansem Was Defeated, xemnas Was Defeated, and xehanort came back. So there is a possibility that part of luxu's role could have been to destroy the heartless and nobodies to trigger the resurrection of the foretellers. The foretellers fell to darkness thus triggering a nobody and heartless to be born. And remember it has been revealed in Kingdom Hearts 3 remind DLC that luxu had his own agenda going on other than preparing for the light vs Darkness battle, so he could have destroyed their heartless and nobodies thus triggering their return shortly after as we see in the Kingdom Hearts 3 epilogue but that's my take on it, what do you think?

    • @DaybreakTownGSA
      @DaybreakTownGSA 2 года назад +1

      @@mysticmal6578 Luxu's secret agenda was fooling Old Man Nort into giving him the No Name keyblade (which he'd been trying to do since at least Birth By Sleep), so he could use it as a waypoint to bring MoM and the Foretellers back. MoM explains this in his talk with Darkness in "The Purpose"
      To travel in time you need
      1 - someone with memories of you (or in Loner Xehanort's case, yourself)
      2 - a physical object to act as the medium (as MoM and others put it, a waypoint)
      For instance, Maleficent time traveled from KHUx into KH2 via her raven (even though it really should be called a chough) bringing her cloak (the physical medium/waypoint) to the Good Fairies, bringing back their Memories of Maleficent, thereby reconstructing her body through the waypoint
      In regards to the Foretellers, we don't know if they have any Heartless let alone nobodies, but think back
      MoM infected them *all* each with one of 7 of the original 13 Darknesses because he knew they would be able to resist and withstand it.
      If they gave in to darkness, that would not only mean giving in to "darkness," but seven of the most powerful darknesses in the series. Which is something MoM would not have wanted, and, seeing as he has an all-seeing-time-traveling-eye, would avoid doing if that were the case.
      But since we know he infected them all because he knew they could resist it, and that he could see everything at least up until the end of the Dark Seeker rendition of the Keyblade War, we can safely assume they did not fall to Darkness, therefore no Heartless, therefore no Nobody.
      Even if the Foretellers didn't know about the No Name keyblade (it's possible they didn't since Luxu had just heard about it during the Case of Luxu and didn't interact with anyone aside from Ava afterward), they're still connected to No Name via their keychains all having a replica of the MoM's eye in them
      Therefore, we can assume all Luxu's secret agenda, as it relates to bringing back the foretellers, was to summon them back via the known laws of time travel, no Heartless necessary
      I admit, it is definitely interesting in hindsight that there are unicorn decorations in the mansion. However, it could more likely be that a descendant of Ephemer made their way to Twilight Town. After all, in the novelization of Unchained X (which is 2nd hand canon at best, but still thought it should be brought up), Ephemer *is* in Unicornis Union, and there are many posters scattered around Twilight Town in KH3 with the Scala script.
      Or, honestly, what's even more likely is that it was Luxu's mansion himself, and I guess he just had some unicorn stuff lying around. Maybe it was MoM's. But it can not be Ira himself or any of the other foretellers, as
      1 - they were reconstituted in the KBG, which probably means they were taken directly from the first (on-screen) KBG
      2 - if they created nobodies, that means they succumbed to the 7 original darknesses, which MoM directly contradicts as he said they were strong enough to resist, and he knows everything (at least up until the 13 vs 7 KBW) because he can time travel through his k-eye-blade

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад

      @@DaybreakTownGSA hell yeah Courtney, I love it. I definitely agree with you, it can go many ways. All throughout Twilight town you can see Scala language as well as unicorns everywhere inside of the mansion. As well as something that is a small detail but it also can mean a lot is the podium in the middle of the Mansion it shows a castle figurine broken down, which is a reference to the destruction of Daybreak town. And the unicorns everywhere can represent a remnants of memory which can go for a descendant from ephraimer or lose shoes Castle or Ira's nobody. I'm glad you enjoyed. Make sure to subscribe, like the video so I can be ahead of the algorithm, share with your friends, and hit the notifications Bell so you don't miss any of my Mystic content. May your heart be your guiding key, let's grow this Mystic family. We going to hit a 1000 subscribers by the end of this year🎊🥳

  • @SShaBazzz
    @SShaBazzz 2 года назад +2

    Wait, you're confusing me. If someone in kh3eets their demise, they die. It's no Nobody happening.
    The only way Ira would have a nobody is for him to behave been turned into a heartless.

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад

      It has been explained that Darkness exists in every heart. The only pure person in Kingdom Hearts is Ventus. Once you are struck down in Kingdom Hearts and you fall to Darkness your heart becomes a heartless and the body that's left behind becomes a nobody. The infamous keyblade war was sparked by hatred and greed which is inspired by Darkness to keep the light "Kingdom Hearts" for themselves

    • @SShaBazzz
      @SShaBazzz 2 года назад +1

      @@mysticmal6578 no, if you're struck down, you die in kingdom hearts. The example of that is Straletzia, Sora, Riku, and the other guardians of light. And the Foretellers from what we've been told so far is they all killed each other in the war.
      In order for you to have a Nobody, you need to become a heartless or lose your heart.

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  2 года назад

      @@SShaBazzz that's part of the reason why I always say that we need more emphasis on this subject because it's very convoluted. Because how Kingdom Hearts 2 and Kingdom Hearts 358 explains transforming to a nobody and heartless is different than how others explain it

  • @DarkLordSauronrocks
    @DarkLordSauronrocks 2 года назад +2

    His nobody could be twilight thorn

    • @mysticmal6578
      @mysticmal6578  Год назад

      This is a Very Good Point, I have to research more into it and find similarities