I’m a pretty big Dead fan. I actually used to be in a cover band that only played songs that The Greatful Dead themselves had covered. I actually played lead guitar in that band, and it was one of the best experiences of my life. We rehearsed once a week and played one gig every other month, so it was very casual. One festival we played in Berryville, VA had 2 other Greatful Dead cover bands performing as well over the course of 3 days. I personally had never seen the Dead play live. People would give me shit when they found that out, and I personally didn’t really care for it. I did go see Dead and Company at Jiffy Lube Live in Bristol, VA last summer with a friend of mine that was on the road with them for 8 years back in the day after having dropped out of Harvard. He used to make and sell grilled cheese sandwiches on shakedown street to fund himself. He had conceived and had a child born in his van during this time, and gave it up when it was time for his son to start school. We got to that show about 4 hours early, were walking around the parking lot and shakedown street, and couldn’t go more than about 5 feet without him running into someone that he knew from back in the day. It was a really cool experience. When we were watching the actual concert, I was behind a family of hippies, about 12 of them. At one point one of them just gave me a bag of weed because I’d run out. I had been showing him pics of my grow room, and he’d been giving me advice. At one point this guys 70 something year old mother decided to take all of her clothes off while she was dancing around. Not a pretty sight, but she was clearly enjoying herself. No one in that family even batted an eye. It was like “Mom’ naked again…” Eventually security came around about 2 songs later and asked her to put her clothes back on. I thought the music was VERY good, and I gained a hell of a lot of respect for John Mayer as a guitar player. They played Ripple as an encore, which happens to be the first song I ever learned on guitar. I’ve had the same experience you talk about on cruises where you have to sit with people that you don’t know at dinner, and there’s always a few that are like “I’ve been on 117 cruises before…”which I find to be a little off putting.
Word it's the "one-upsmanship" for sure. When I was 17 I can remember being caught in the middle of a huge one up battle between two strangers that I totally looked up to because I figured they were fricken acid lords and I walked away in pure doubt of it all that these bros could be so very caught up in such a super low vibrational ego trip battle. But I realized with some.hard thought that if.theyre all good then I most certainly am as well. Even if.they would have thought I wasn't. I decided then and there that you can't take my love away from me no matter what. Love is real. Lol. You get what.you come for and you're ready to go. Like the one.in ten thousand that come for the show.
100% about the flexing on shows. Went to my first Dead show in '89 - saw Jerry just a few times before he passed. That gives me moderate flex when I'm shitting with my Dead friends. But totally not getting the bootleg-tape culture. Before digital everything, it was really difficult to get your hands on Dead music. We passed around bootleg cassette tapes with dates written on them. You got to know the music through whatever shows you could get your hands on. When you met other heads, you talked about the shows you had and the versions of the songs played. Plenty of lame Dead&Co newbies out there. But get with anyone who has been around - they're probably going to flex on you, but they'll probably also be able to tell you in detail the variations in songs and arrangements, any guest artists, between-song banter, where to find the Phil-zone.... Each show is a unique work of art.
I agree, except the part about it being hard to find the music. Most heads had dozens (or hundreds ) of bootlegs. For the price of a blank cassette, you got 90 minutes of music.
Robert Hunter does the lyrics, Jerry Garcia does the music. Jerry was too afraid to write lyrics, he thought he would expose too much of himself if he did. His music did that for him just fine.
It’s a thing forsure. I’m a huge deadhead and in turn experienced this a lot. But I’m also a huge fan of lots of different bands from different genres and it’s really in every fan base to some degree. Metalheads and EDM fans are notorious for it too. But Deadheads are the best fans in my experience.
As someone who attended every show from 1966 to 1989 and was the band's personal sock wrangler and hoagie consteuctor, i must disagree. Obviously spring 78 surpasses anything from 89. Newbs
Amen! I used to go see the Dead a lot, I love the band and their music, but the fans (heads) are insufferable. The endless stat keeping, and just the fact that most of the people seemed to only be able to talk about this ONE band to the exclusion of everything else. After Garcia passed, I attended two Phil and friends shows. The first one was brilliant, the second one blew (different friends). Never bothered with Dead and CO. I almost feel sorry for the hapless folks who consider that a continuation of what used to be. And don't get me started on all the freakin' Dead cover bands. And Phish. People grow old and we die. It's perfectly normal and natural. Get over it people. The next genius is working on something brand new in his/her bedroom that will blow minds, and you can bet it's not Sugar freaking Magnolia.
I’ve had it happen at festivals and shows where some deadhead would be talking to me but then give me the cold shoulder when they find out i just kind of like some of their music and not a fellow deadhead.
I'm a huge Deadhead. Luckily, I hang with an older crowd that saw the Dead back in the day. Some great Dead cover bands are in my area, so we can meet up and shake our bones to the music. Yes, there are "Deadlier than Thou" people who say they saw the Dead 500 times blah, blah blah, and are an expert on everything Dead. Of course, there are plenty of idiots in the scene, but for me, it's all about the music. Some go to Dead and Co., and some don't. If someone had told me that the Dead Scene would still be going 30 years since 1995, I would have said they were crazy.
I think to be more specific, it doesn’t even really bother me these people who have been to tons of shows. And specifically when it’s some older guy who is bragging about this. But the thing that annoys me is this certain type of yuppie younger dude, who is basically just bragging about how much money he spent in a roundabout way. Like when some 23-year-old is telling me he’s flying out to Vegas to see several shows and then goes on to tell me how he saw every show in Boulder and San Francisco and elsewhere on the dead and co farewell tour, all I’m really hearing is “i have a lot of disposable income”. I don’t hear anything about the music or why it’s important to him. I’m just hearing bragging about being able to spend that kind of money to see these shows. This is definitely different than when some old head starts telling me about about how he followed them around on tour in 1977, was at the Cornell show, etc..
I think the thing people talking about the Dead, Phish and other jambands is primarily because unlike a lot of other artists in different music genres, the live performances are sort of the DNA of these bands and fans alike. When I see non-jam bands play, there is sort of level expectation of how they are going to sound, what the set lists will be and so on. Nothing wrong with that of course and I really enjoy that type of concert as well. When I see a jam band, it's sort of a blank slate going into a show or run of what will be played that night or stop, which songs will be jammed out and so on. When I go to see these bands (especially Phish), I am there for the music more than the scene as is the crew I am usually with. But - Jam band fans are the worst :-)
@@rabidgoon For sure. I have been a huge fan of both of bands for 35+ years and while I appreciate some of Phish's studio albums, they are certainly not Workingman's Dead, Wake Of The Flood, American Beauty or Aoxomoxoa. For me, the Dead is the quintessential American rock band. Phish is just a weird band with amazing music. They are really a prog rock band disguised as a jam band.
@@katzpdx in my opinion, the closest phish have come to making what I would describe as a pretty good album was story of the ghost. But there’s just too much crap on that one to make it a no skip album and the production is typically thin. I feel like I can pretty much listen to any dead album straight through and enjoy it for the most part, even the weaker ones like In The Dark.
@@rabidgoon Spot on. Story of the Ghost and Rift are their best produced albums. I occasionally listen to a few of their studio albums (Junta, Picture of Nectar and Rift), but mostly for nostalgic reasons. I can listen to almost of the Dead's studio albums straight through, except for Built to Last and Go To Heaven.
@@katzpdx junta was is the first phish album I bought so I have some nostalgia for it too, but I listen to it again a few years ago and just kept thinking I’d rather hear live versions of every song. Since it’s their first album and they did it without a label, you can hardly fault them. Later on they could’ve theoretically gotten money from the label and a good producer to really make a great album and I just feel like they always phoned it in.
I can assure you it’s not the fan base it’s how you respond to anyone that causes the social tension and thus the one ups man ship that happens with old heads. It’s really like a war metal. They gave up so many hours to be part of the great cosmic thing (physics). lol it’s a good time man to go for the high score of shows haha. Harder now than it used to be man for sure.
i typically just respond by nodding along and saying "that's cool". i don't have any ground on which to one up them. Like i said I'm just a casual fan.
What you are saying about the DeadHeads is true, but that has always been true. When I say I've seen at least 120 shows, I am just trying to help you understand who I am. Also, it draws a contrast between who I am now, and who I was in my youth. It is bragging, but think it's more about showing off the hippie resume than it is about money.
I think there is something absolutely different between someone saying that they followed the Dead around on tour back in 1977 versus some trust funder today bragging about how he used daddy’s money to go and see every show in Boulder and San Francisco and everywhere in between on the dead and co “farewell” tour. There’s just a different vibe about it. In the first case, it’s some old hippie bragging about his wild and crazy youth, whereas now it’s some rich guy doing rich guy things.
@@rabidgoon True of course. Thank you for making the distinction. One time, a younger person said to me "you are one of the real ones." I was really proud when he said that.
Haha. Not sure who you are and why I was recommended this,but I think this probably says something more about yourself than anyone else. You say “…flex…” and proceed to post a video of your face on RUclips, all while milking the teat of the good ol’ Grateful Dead. Haha It’s conversation starter, easy interaction people who have something in common can speak about in a short minute. It don’t last long. I’m sure if you hung out with the wooks outside the lot they’d lay some deep shit on ya. Lots of people just aren’t great conversationalist in a mass of people. It’s a lot. If you wanna talk the meaning of Dark Star spend some time getting to know a person rather than letting some negativity flow.
Join Rob Cotton's futile effort in finding a place to take a dump and buy more tooth whitening strips. And sure he's gotta talk about something right? He looks barely old enough to have seen the dead before age 5.
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I’m a pretty big Dead fan. I actually used to be in a cover band that only played songs that The Greatful Dead themselves had covered. I actually played lead guitar in that band, and it was one of the best experiences of my life. We rehearsed once a week and played one gig every other month, so it was very casual. One festival we played in Berryville, VA had 2 other Greatful Dead cover bands performing as well over the course of 3 days.
I personally had never seen the Dead play live. People would give me shit when they found that out, and I personally didn’t really care for it.
I did go see Dead and Company at Jiffy Lube Live in Bristol, VA last summer with a friend of mine that was on the road with them for 8 years back in the day after having dropped out of Harvard. He used to make and sell grilled cheese sandwiches on shakedown street to fund himself. He had conceived and had a child born in his van during this time, and gave it up when it was time for his son to start school.
We got to that show about 4 hours early, were walking around the parking lot and shakedown street, and couldn’t go more than about 5 feet without him running into someone that he knew from back in the day. It was a really cool experience.
When we were watching the actual concert, I was behind a family of hippies, about 12 of them. At one point one of them just gave me a bag of weed because I’d run out. I had been showing him pics of my grow room, and he’d been giving me advice. At one point this guys 70 something year old mother decided to take all of her clothes off while she was dancing around. Not a pretty sight, but she was clearly enjoying herself. No one in that family even batted an eye. It was like “Mom’ naked again…” Eventually security came around about 2 songs later and asked her to put her clothes back on.
I thought the music was VERY good, and I gained a hell of a lot of respect for John Mayer as a guitar player. They played Ripple as an encore, which happens to be the first song I ever learned on guitar.
I’ve had the same experience you talk about on cruises where you have to sit with people that you don’t know at dinner, and there’s always a few that are like “I’ve been on 117 cruises before…”which I find to be a little off putting.
Word it's the "one-upsmanship" for sure. When I was 17 I can remember being caught in the middle of a huge one up battle between two strangers that I totally looked up to because I figured they were fricken acid lords and I walked away in pure doubt of it all that these bros could be so very caught up in such a super low vibrational ego trip battle.
But I realized with some.hard thought that if.theyre all good then I most certainly am as well. Even if.they would have thought I wasn't.
I decided then and there that you can't take my love away from me no matter what.
Love is real. Lol.
You get what.you come for and you're ready to go.
Like the one.in ten thousand that come for the show.
100% about the flexing on shows. Went to my first Dead show in '89 - saw Jerry just a few times before he passed. That gives me moderate flex when I'm shitting with my Dead friends. But totally not getting the bootleg-tape culture. Before digital everything, it was really difficult to get your hands on Dead music. We passed around bootleg cassette tapes with dates written on them. You got to know the music through whatever shows you could get your hands on. When you met other heads, you talked about the shows you had and the versions of the songs played. Plenty of lame Dead&Co newbies out there. But get with anyone who has been around - they're probably going to flex on you, but they'll probably also be able to tell you in detail the variations in songs and arrangements, any guest artists, between-song banter, where to find the Phil-zone.... Each show is a unique work of art.
I agree, except the part about it being hard to find the music. Most heads had dozens (or hundreds ) of bootlegs. For the price of a blank cassette, you got 90 minutes of music.
Robert Hunter does the lyrics, Jerry Garcia does the music. Jerry was too afraid to write lyrics, he thought he would expose too much of himself if he did. His music did that for him just fine.
I love the historical references in Ramble On Rose also. I just looked up Crazy Otto.
It’s really a great song. Some unexpected chord changes too.
It’s a thing forsure. I’m a huge deadhead and in turn experienced this a lot. But I’m also a huge fan of lots of different bands from different genres and it’s really in every fan base to some degree. Metalheads and EDM fans are notorious for it too. But Deadheads are the best fans in my experience.
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As someone who attended every show from 1966 to 1989 and was the band's personal sock wrangler and hoagie consteuctor, i must disagree. Obviously spring 78 surpasses anything from 89. Newbs
Amen! I used to go see the Dead a lot, I love the band and their music, but the fans (heads) are insufferable. The endless stat keeping, and just the fact that most of the people seemed to only be able to talk about this ONE band to the exclusion of everything else. After Garcia passed, I attended two Phil and friends shows. The first one was brilliant, the second one blew (different friends). Never bothered with Dead and CO. I almost feel sorry for the hapless folks who consider that a continuation of what used to be. And don't get me started on all the freakin' Dead cover bands. And Phish. People grow old and we die. It's perfectly normal and natural. Get over it people. The next genius is working on something brand new in his/her bedroom that will blow minds, and you can bet it's not Sugar freaking Magnolia.
I’ve had it happen at festivals and shows where some deadhead would be talking to me but then give me the cold shoulder when they find out i just kind of like some of their music and not a fellow deadhead.
Rob is obviously a John Cougar Mellancamp and Sha Na Na guy.... And that's ok! Some people prefer Coke and Whip-its and others prefer Weed and LSD.
I'm a huge Deadhead. Luckily, I hang with an older crowd that saw the Dead back in the day. Some great Dead cover bands are in my area, so we can meet up and shake our bones to the music. Yes, there are "Deadlier than Thou" people who say they saw the Dead
500 times blah, blah blah, and are an expert on everything Dead. Of course, there are plenty of idiots in the scene, but for me, it's all about the music. Some go to Dead and Co., and some don't. If someone had told me that the Dead Scene would still be going 30 years since 1995, I would have said they were crazy.
I think to be more specific, it doesn’t even really bother me these people who have been to tons of shows. And specifically when it’s some older guy who is bragging about this. But the thing that annoys me is this certain type of yuppie younger dude, who is basically just bragging about how much money he spent in a roundabout way. Like when some 23-year-old is telling me he’s flying out to Vegas to see several shows and then goes on to tell me how he saw every show in Boulder and San Francisco and elsewhere on the dead and co farewell tour, all I’m really hearing is “i have a lot of disposable income”. I don’t hear anything about the music or why it’s important to him. I’m just hearing bragging about being able to spend that kind of money to see these shows. This is definitely different than when some old head starts telling me about about how he followed them around on tour in 1977, was at the Cornell show, etc..
@@rabidgoon These 23 years olds are the same morons that talk throughout the shows too.
@@FloridaDave_true. Geeked out on molly and can’t shut up while they spill their 15 dollar IPA on their birkenstocks.
Big dead head and I completely agree.
I think the thing people talking about the Dead, Phish and other jambands is primarily because unlike a lot of other artists in different music genres, the live performances are sort of the DNA of these bands and fans alike. When I see non-jam bands play, there is sort of level expectation of how they are going to sound, what the set lists will be and so on. Nothing wrong with that of course and I really enjoy that type of concert as well. When I see a jam band, it's sort of a blank slate going into a show or run of what will be played that night or stop, which songs will be jammed out and so on. When I go to see these bands (especially Phish), I am there for the music more than the scene as is the crew I am usually with.
But - Jam band fans are the worst :-)
Good point, but at least the dead have some good albums. Phish have never made a good studio album.
@@rabidgoon For sure. I have been a huge fan of both of bands for 35+ years and while I appreciate some of Phish's studio albums, they are certainly not Workingman's Dead, Wake Of The Flood, American Beauty or Aoxomoxoa. For me, the Dead is the quintessential American rock band. Phish is just a weird band with amazing music. They are really a prog rock band disguised as a jam band.
@@katzpdx in my opinion, the closest phish have come to making what I would describe as a pretty good album was story of the ghost. But there’s just too much crap on that one to make it a no skip album and the production is typically thin. I feel like I can pretty much listen to any dead album straight through and enjoy it for the most part, even the weaker ones like In The Dark.
@@rabidgoon Spot on. Story of the Ghost and Rift are their best produced albums. I occasionally listen to a few of their studio albums (Junta, Picture of Nectar and Rift), but mostly for nostalgic reasons.
I can listen to almost of the Dead's studio albums straight through, except for Built to Last and Go To Heaven.
@@katzpdx junta was is the first phish album I bought so I have some nostalgia for it too, but I listen to it again a few years ago and just kept thinking I’d rather hear live versions of every song. Since it’s their first album and they did it without a label, you can hardly fault them. Later on they could’ve theoretically gotten money from the label and a good producer to really make a great album and I just feel like they always phoned it in.
I can assure you it’s not the fan base it’s how you respond to anyone that causes the social tension and thus the one ups man ship that happens with old heads. It’s really like a war metal. They gave up so many hours to be part of the great cosmic thing (physics). lol it’s a good time man to go for the high score of shows haha. Harder now than it used to be man for sure.
i typically just respond by nodding along and saying "that's cool". i don't have any ground on which to one up them. Like i said I'm just a casual fan.
heads are fun. It's not that i hate ALL karens, but if you decide to stop going to shows, as a casual observer, i don't think any heads will mind
“Everyone who says something i don’t like is a karen hurr durr”
What you are saying about the DeadHeads is true, but that has always been true. When I say I've seen at least 120 shows, I am just trying to help you understand who I am. Also, it draws a contrast between who I am now, and who I was in my youth. It is bragging, but think it's more about showing off the hippie resume than it is about money.
I think there is something absolutely different between someone saying that they followed the Dead around on tour back in 1977 versus some trust funder today bragging about how he used daddy’s money to go and see every show in Boulder and San Francisco and everywhere in between on the dead and co “farewell” tour. There’s just a different vibe about it. In the first case, it’s some old hippie bragging about his wild and crazy youth, whereas now it’s some rich guy doing rich guy things.
@@rabidgoon True of course. Thank you for making the distinction. One time, a younger person said to me "you are one of the real ones." I was really proud when he said that.
Maybe they're just seeking common ground and not trying to "flex" as you say.
Haha. Not sure who you are and why I was recommended this,but I think this probably says something more about yourself than anyone else.
You say “…flex…” and proceed to post a video of your face on RUclips, all while milking the teat of the good ol’ Grateful Dead. Haha
It’s conversation starter, easy interaction people who have something in common can speak about in a short minute. It don’t last long. I’m sure if you hung out with the wooks outside the lot they’d lay some deep shit on ya. Lots of people just aren’t great conversationalist in a mass of people. It’s a lot. If you wanna talk the meaning of Dark Star spend some time getting to know a person rather than letting some negativity flow.
Or maybe your scene is just cringe.
@@rabidgoon it’s not my scene. It’s a scene. Make what you will of it. Same as it ever was.
And why did he make this video?
More or less in line...
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Take it down easy Ramblin Rob.
No, i am correct
That’s just like your opinion man, and this is coming from a Spherehead who has seen 3 shows.
Join Rob Cotton's futile effort in finding a place to take a dump and buy more tooth whitening strips. And sure he's gotta talk about something right? He looks barely old enough to have seen the dead before age 5.
u probably just havent been to enough shows
This is all especially true of “deadheads” who weren’t even alive when Jerry still was.
"it's one in ten thousand that come for the show"
Dead & Co. is NOT the Grateful Dead.
Jerry is dead. Phish sucks. Get a job.