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Both!! - many times! Montreal!! 🙂I adore Paris but in some ways I have to say I love Montreal more! I go back and forth! I like the more laid back atmosphere in Montreal! Vancouver is home but I do love that I also have family in Montreal as well. Safety is a huge issue in Paris - it's a reality. I always feel very safe in Montreal. LOVE your Manhattan videos too - love the hustle vibe! I have a love affair with that city along with Montreal!!
Pfk was named in French because the owner itself wanted it to be translated. Many brands keep the original name. Also Québec wants to remain francophone because others Canadian provinces such as Manitoba or Saskatchewan used to be francophone, but the British government and then the federal government baned French.
True, true, true. Language laws do NOT require brand names to be translated. That’s how you can shop at Winners, Canadian Tire, Sail, Urban Outfitters, you can dine at East Side Mario’s or Burger King etc etc. However, many companies CHOSE to change their brand names to French for commercial reasons, simply to acknowledge and respect its French-speaking clientele. So Shoppers Drug Mart became Pharmaprix, Staples (an american company !) became Bureau en gros, KFC became PFK, etc.
I think you are speaking about the Manitoba Schools Question which did not have to do with the British. Eastern settlers displacing Metis in Manitoba let to rebellions, and this led to anti-Catholic legislation in the province over defunding Catholic schools (which were largely francophone at the time). To note is the fed government and the majority in central and Eastern Canada always supported the funding of the Catholic schools and the use of French in public institutions in Manitoba but Manitoba won the supreme court and privy council rulings (then located in Britain) against the federal government. Laurier eventually reached a settlement which provided public funding for French schools where sufficient population existed, but by then French was already used by less than 10% of Manitoba's population (today it is 3%). Aggressive settling by orangemen from Ontario basically stole Manitoba from being a bilingual province to an anglophone one. But to note is that the official policy of the Canadian government was never in support of the stripping of francophone rights in Manitoba. The history is a little more complicated in that francophones have always been a big part of Canada's political history. Like the head of the Canadian government at the time this happened, Wilfrid Laurier, was a francophone from Quebec.
I am French and Canadian and I lived in Paris, for me, for my kid, it’s Montreal the safer, where we feel happy and welcomed. The quality of living in Montreal is so much higher than Paris, at least for us. Forever Montrealers ❤ Pour toujours Montréal est notre port d’attache, là où nous avons les plus beaux moments de notre vie ♥️☀️
Il faut pas généraliser - moi je trouve Paris en sécurité, même dans 11ieme où j’habite. Je suis écossais mais francophone et j’ai trouvé les québécois un peu ignorant vers les anglophones. C'est comme l'impérialisme linguistique 😂
@@christofat2704 Sans vouloir vous manquer de respect, cette manière de décrire et de voir les choses est, d'une part l'héritage du colonialisme, et d'autre part d'une ignorance telle face aux autres cultures.
To your point about the new world/old world divide, I would phrase it a bit differently, especially as it concerns Parisians and French people moving to Montreal or Quebec in general. Oftentimes, they operate under the assumption that coming to Mtl is no differerent than moving to a French overseas territory, and that Quebecers are French/Europeans living in North America. What they quickly realize is that Montreal/Quebecers are not a French city/people in North America, but rather a North American city/people that happen to speak French. And that distinction is crucially important.
Being French, living in France and having son and grandchildren living near Montreal and being Canadian citizens, I totally agree with you. I don’t remember who once said that Quebecers and French are separated by a common language. It often strike French speaking Quebecers when they visit France (not only Paris) that they can communicate with the locals despite the huge differences in the social environment.
Don't think I would agree with your sentence. Parisians often annoy Montrealers with there sense of entitlement for being the "original" French speakers and also Parisians complaint that is hard for them to break the ice because they are not from the New World. Im a new citizen in Canada and I can tell you making quebecois friends can be challenging...Not surprising though
That is not what he is saying. Quebecers have very little in common with the France of today. In terms of lifestyle and mentality they have more in common with the Americans and the British working class than with the French from France. Also Mexico has a much richer culture than does Quebec. @@guyl9456
I really enjoy the anglo perspective you bring to this topic. You clearly know what you're talking about since you live in Montreal and you speak French but it's coming from an anglophone perspective. I like that and keep it up.
You should visit Lafayette, Louisiana and speak with some Cajun French speakers. There is a large movement there at re-claiming the region’s french language. Lache pas la patate! @TheNewTravel
It's doomed to fail. Maybe they'll know simple sentences like "Bonjour" and "merci", but pretty much all these lost language reclaiming efforts (French in the US, Gaelic in Ireland, etc) never make a full comeback to fluency.
I really enjoy your videos, Dan!!! Thank you! Personally I love both Paris and Montreal, but have only lived in Paris of the two cities. I lived in Paris for about 10 years in all, and that was several decades ago, and I truly felt at home there. I have lived in Quebec City for work for the past 16 years (WOW! Already!!) which is lovely, but I look forward to moving to Montreal for a number of reasons, as soon as possible. I really also love Montreal!
I like the way you describe the difference between Paris and Quebec. You understood and explained that French must be defended. Thank you very much for explaining it well.
I liveed in Montreal on and off for 18 years now, i left in 2021 to go to BC, and i must say it was kind of a shock to come back and see so many english signs, not bilingual at all, all over the city (and not just West of St-Laurent), more than before i think. The rents, like everywhere i guess, are now catching up with rest of Canada, which is a shame too... It's always been a fear of many French Canadians to lose our language...it is deep rooted, and hard to fully understand if you are from somewhere with the same issues. Quebec is a very unique place. I understand the idea behind the language laws, and i understand It can seem rough. It's also is very true, you can totally live in Montreal without ever living in MONTRÉAL, you know? It sound sad to me...why wouldn't you want be part of the whole deal?
I have some friends from South America who got robbed in Paris and other cities in Europe while they were traveling. Some folks have misconceptions about security around the world, largely formed by media and incorrect interpretations of data. For instance, some spots in South America and Africa can be more peaceful and safe than some large cities in Europe. With globalization, this issue can become significant. Thus, it's really fantastic living surrounded by the safety of Montreal, despite all the problems and the large population.
I’m from Brazil, and there are many places and cities that are quite safe. Don’t judge an entire continent based solely on your perspective or experience. For example, medium-sized cities in Santa Catarina or São Paulo are good references, as are cities in Uruguay and Chile. In fact, I’m confident you might feel safer there than in Paris or New York.
KFC is not forced to use PFK according to actual laws, it just decides to change it for their own corporate reasons. Some international brands decide to keep their English name such as Dairy Queen or Canadian Tire. Others decide to change their names to French such a Shoppers' Drug Mart which is called Pharmaprix in Quebec or Staples which is called Bureau en Gros in Quebec. What the law says is if you have an English only name, it must be accompanied by a French description like Café Starbuck , Supercentre Walmart or Best Buy Électronique Électroménagers.
But by that logic they could have chosen PFK because of the laws. For instance, let’s say they would have needed a description like “KFC poulet frit”. Then the corporate team at KFC would think… “that’s sort of redundant and silly, what’s a simpler way to do it? Ah let’s translate to PFK” So by effect they were forced because the law gave them no option to carry on as normal as they would have preferred. But you are right there are still choices available. Since I didn’t grow up in Quebec I might be misunderstanding something, but that’s how I perceive it to be
@@TheNewTravel They would not have needed to do that. Does Burger King call itself ''le restaurant Burger King''? No. As was pointed out, they made a business decision, based on what they deemed to be their best commercial interests. Same business decision that Staples made when they chose to go by ''Bureau en gros'' in Quebec. Now, where it gets tricky is that names that are trademarked do not need to be translated, but those that aren't need to. For instance, in the case of Starbucks, the only part that is trademarked is 'Starbucks'. As such, they can't call themselves Starbucks Coffee, which would be in violation of language laws. They need to call themselves ''Les cafés Starbucks''. This issue is honestly kind of complicated, there are many language requirements when it comes to commercial advertising, but there are a ton of exceptions and exemptions as well. I would also point out that in France, there is a law called ''la Loi Toubon'' which dictates that commercial services must be provided in French and that management has to communicate with employees in French. So in that sense, they have similar concerns when it comes to the anglicization of their culture.
@@louisd.8928I wouldn’t say France is worried abt it, I mean it’s France, but there are definitely laws that make French as much as possible and not English . The French love their language, and the francophone world is huge , whether that be on social media , or international institutions and organizations. It’s also a reason France falls very behind it’s other European counterparts in speaking English and any other languages
I love Montreal and I hope I can get to know Paris someday. For the french laws I saw a few comments talking about: one thing the politicians can't understand is that the more you make it mandatory to speak french, the more people are gonna hate it. I'm busting my ass learning french, but not because someone told me to, but instead because I respect their culture and want to feel immersed in it. People are like teenagers: if you try to make them do something by force, they're gonna do the opposite just to upset you. And that's sad, because Montreal and it's culture have much more to offer than hate and segregation...
Québec has already tried it . Ask the italian immigrants for opportunistics reason who have favoured english in a french speaking society before the pro-french laws were imposed.
@@alioshax7797 Are you telling it is useless to learn french in a french speaking society. In Québec there are people who still can not speak french after 10yrs . And then play the racist card when they encounter some salty moments from their rude attitude
FYI, PFK was chosen before language laws that necessitated french signs were introduce. Also fun fact; a lot of companies like Staples (Bureau en Gros in Qc) did the same thing and saw a growth in profit afterwards.
I grew up in Canada reading French on serial boxes so the only sign I had trouble reading on my first visit to Montreal was the RC sign in the elevator. I had to wait for someone else to step in to get to the lobby floor.
I live in Ontario but Montreal is like my second home. It's my favourite city in the world. Honestly the French are the most interesting part of Canada. Montreal as a city has such a great vibe, energy and spirit. Whenever I feel down, I go there. The only downside I would say in Quebec is the healthcare system. Which is a shame because France has such good healthcare.
For me, as a Quebecker, being called French is not insulting at all. However, I expect that the person who is calling me French is also calling people from the US and English Canadians just "English" and every American the European nationality of the language they are speaking, which is often not the case. There lies the problem : contrasting us as "European" to English Canadians who would be more more legitimate on our continent. Misrepresenting us bothers me a lot since we always have people who talk on our behalf and seldom have people actually listening what we have to say.
Montreal and Paris are really beautiful, exciting and colorful cities, they have nothing to lose, and I'd think people in France would be offended by tourists who try to speak English with them because is hardly spoken by the French, they would easily get annoyed if you don't speak French, either because you don't have a good level of it or understand the spoken language. That's unfortunately my case. They're also kinda hermetic to the English-speaking world. The same would happen if you are in the aforementioned Canadian city. France and Canada have such stereotypical societies just like any other country. You couldn't bring certain topics up just for your own well-being as well as the others'. What an unpredictable world we live in!
For all of those who hates on Qc french law, can you just look at Quebec history, specially in the 50, to understand why we have this law. Can you just reflect about it and put you in our shoes. Im sorry but if you cannot understand this law and found it strict, you are just silly! If you come live here and dont want to have to speak french maybe consider go somewhere else.
I agree for the most part, except for language control. There is the "Académie Française" and the French do not tolerate English at the office (or starting a conversation in English).
That largely depends on what makes a city 'French'. What's your metric? Official language? Total population? Share of the population that speaks French? Or share of the population that speaks French as their first language?
If New France had not been conquered by the British in the 18th century, who imported their civilization from Great Britain into the New World, their habits and customs, Montreal, architecturally, would undoubtedly resemble Paris. Indeed, during the Second French Empire in the 19th century, mainly comprising the countries of the Maghreb, Indochina and Pondicherry in India, the French imported their civilization into these countries and their know-how in architecture. In Algiers, for example, there are Haussmann-style buildings, like in Paris. Why would it not have been the same in Montreal or Quebec city, part of whose built heritage reflects that of France in the 17th century, that is to say before the Conquest of 1759?
I find the culture of Montreal is also shaped by the presence of 5 big universities, which brings a lot of highly educated people into the area. Biggest difference though is Montreal is built on unceeded territory stolen from the original indigenous people. Like all of North America it's the site of a physical & cultural genocide. Very, very little visible acknowledgement of the original First Nation communities in the names, architecture etc of Montreal, even though there are members of those communities still living in the city & suburbs. Massive need for reconciliation and investment in these original indigenous languages.
i think Paris is a fast paced city by French standards. i live in Poitiers in Nouvelle-Aquitaine and this is somewhere r you really experience a slow pace of life. paris is wayyyy quicker but i’m originally from London which is on a whole new level
KFC did that change by themselves, they were not forced. They over-complied, in a way. They could have changed their sign to "KFC - poulet frit", or something like that. Just like "Second Cup" added a small line on top of their logo, for "Les cafés SECOND CUP".
The French believe in “joie de vivre” or “joy of living.” They work to live, not the other way around. That’s why Paris, despite being a massive city, doesn’t have the hustle culture and you will see people sitting at cafes or parks, simply watching the world go by around them. Montréal is my home but Paris is my favourite place to visit ❤
While Aux Invalides in Paris, I asked 4 questions to a museum guide and he correctly replied to my inquiries. I asked him if he understood my Quebec French why did he answer in english? He looked surprised. Paris is a very cosmopolitan city and they are more than often trilingual. Anecdote.... I watched a French movie 'Les Vetos' --- 4 songs in english (clearly french accents). funny but sad.
@@claudelemire2451 Petite anecdote, la première que je suis venu à Montréal , il m'ai souvent arrivé que je pensais que les personnes me parlaient en Anglais Americain avec moi avec que je réalise que c'était du français. Je dit bien Anglais Americain parce que je m'étais déjà habitué à l'accent Londonien où j'ai passé plus d'un mois avant d'atterrir à Montréal
No Paris is not trilingual. Only in touristic places do they speak English or possibly German. Generally - French people think the Quebecois accent is somewhat low grade.
Quebec french accent is the french spoken by the kings of France from 1534 to 1763 .It was the most developed colony of New France . The King sent girls from Paris to Quebec city to build families ( les filles du Roi ) . Madonna , Angelina Jolie and Hilary Clinton ancestors are from Quebec girls from the King of FRance ... All Madonna s children speak french living in the UK . Following the Seven Years' War, Quebec became a British colony in the British Empire. It was first known as the Province of Quebec (1763-1791), then as Lower Canada (1791-1841), and then as Canada East (1841-1867) as a result of the Lower Canada Rebellion. During this period, the inferior socio-economic status of francophones (because anglophones dominated the natural resources and industries of Quebec french language was forbidden at work ) the Catholic church, resistance against cultural assimilation, and isolation from non English-speaking populations were important themes. English canada burnt down the Canadian parliament in Montreal ( the Capital ) because of a resolution past by the parliament to pay back the french canadians who suffered from damages of extremist english canadian and american burning down their houses . The queen Victoria then moved the capital of Canada to Ottawa . A very unilingual city in Ontario ...
I don't even speak like my grandmother, don't tell me that our language has not evolved since the filles du roi. I find this very naïve. Listen to archives from Radio Canada, we don't speak like them... I am tired of hearing that our language has not evolved. A language that does not evolve is a dying one.
Montreal and Paris aren’t that similar imo. I’d say Berlin and Brussels reminded me a lot more of Montreal based on my experience. I enjoy Montréal a lot more though, the people are much friendlier, city is much cleaner, is safer, not overrun by tourists, and you don’t feel like an outsider not being a native francophone
@@noseboop4354 Not even British except some pockets , it is essentially Quebecois. never seen this exterior staircases abroad not in France nor in the U.K
8:19 Paris is for sure one of the most unsafest city in Europe 10:40 Parisians work to live when NYkers live to work. There's a real lifestyle in Paris
Funny thing is, in 1867 Montreal was 75% anglophone. Much of the French Canadian population lived in the rural areas and gradually moved into Montreal throughout the 20th century. I lived in Montreal for three years and never would compare it to Paris. Completely different places as far as I can see except for the French-speaking factor. And a Frenchman told me he didn't think they spoke proper French in Quebec. I guess he was a language snob.
@@veroniquelauzon2801 What did the Englishman say? So far on here you only asked me if it's fine that a Frenchman thinks that way as long as I feel it's okay if an Englishman thinks that way about English spoken in Canada. My opinion never factored into my original comment, I simply was told that by a Frenchman because he heard I was Canadian. But people are welcome to their opinion, I don't care what anyone thinks about how French or English are spoken in Canada. I don't define myself by the language I speak anyway. It's just the lingua franca.
I love this video. You are both charming and your take on the topic is informative. I live in NYS about 4.5 hours from Montreal but haven't been there in years, but would choose to go to Montreal before ever going to New York City. I really dislike NYC!
vers la minute 6, tu prononces "tu" incorrectement comme "tou" et donc tu n'es pas francophone ou partiellement sans avoir jamais réussi à prononcer un "u" français, qui correspond au "ü" allemand, ou encore ressemble au "y" norvégien, etc. Et celà amène les deux principales différences entre Paris et Montréal: - Paris est une ville entièrement francophone, et une ville d'urbanisme européen - Montréal est une ville essentiellement américaine dans son urbanisme, avec un tout petit peu de vieille-ville et culturellement schizophrénique: Montréal-Ouest et Montréal-Est. Je suis nativement bilingue français et espagnol, ma langue quotidienne est le norvégien, et sinon j'utilise assez régulièrement deux autres langues mais l'anglais me pose trop de problèmes et je ne l'utilise que sur internet à l'écrit. Pour moi Montréal-Est à partir de McGill c'est l'Angleterre. Curieusement lors de mon dernier séjour à Montréal, je pouvais effectuer mes achats et aller boire une bière ou au resto, uniquement en ... espagnol.. La caractéristique des anglos est de considérer l'anglais comme l'unique langue de l'univers, les autres langues sont vues comme une chose optionnelle, décorative, de second degré. Un français, un italien, un polonais, etc, qui voyage à l'étranger, ne va pas utiliser par défaut sa langue dans les magasins. Les anglo eux utilisent par défaut l'anglais partout en présupposant que les gens doivent comprendre et que s'ils ne comprennent pas ils sont inférieurs. Ce qui amène le thème du "multiculturalisme": lorsque les canadiens parlent de multiculturalisme ils pensent en "américain", c'est une vue racialiste et pas culturelle. Exple: un Belge peut-être un Flamand ou un Wallon, et donc parler le flamand ou le wallon il s'agit de deux cultures différentes, mais visuellement un Flamand et un Wallon sont généralement identiques, "racialement". La Belgique, la Suisse, l'Espagne sont des pays multi-culturels car ils ont des populations indigènes de cultures et langues différentes. Multiplicité. Les anglos, en raison du racialisme yanqui, ne voient pas celà, mais sont obsédés par l'aspect racial, et ils parlent de multi-culturalisme non pas pour désigner de multiples cultures, mais des populations à caractéristiques physiques (couleurs de peau, aspects de visage, cheveux, etc) différentes de la norme nord-européenne ou européenne pâle.
KFC turned to PFK before the bill 101 to try and sell to the local population. So when the law was created they were already ok. By the time they decided to open locations in France the KFC name was already known worldwide so they didn't feel the need to use a french version.
Pourmoi la difference est que je passerais volontier 2-3 ans à Paris, mais je voudrais passer ma vie à Montreal. La vie est trop courte pour passer autant de temps à se soucier de ce que les autres pensent de nous. Dans une autre vidéo, un Montrealais immigrant a dit "I like Montreal because you can be as weird as you want and nobody gives a fuck". Je pense que c'est vrai. Du moins, plus vrai qu'à Paris qui est beaucoup plus formattée.
Paris and Montreal are probably the 2 most famous french speaking cities in the world. Could be more like NYC and London compared - which I think would be an interesting video as well
France is not as threatened by english and french people are nowhere near becoming fluent in english anytime soon, although there's a lot of words we borrow from english but with a very heavy french accent and pronunciation, no english speaker would even understand :)
in france we are not exposed to english as much because everything on TV, for example, is dubbed in french, we do have lots of english words because it looks cool to us, but overall, French is so dominant in our daily lives that you HAVE TO speak it to get by, unlike Quebec (or similarly in California you can get by speaking only Spanish)
I much more prefer Montréal, been there a few times and have family there. Never been to Paris but all the rumors I’ve heard of it makes me not want to go there. lol
Were you born in Montreal? Your english seems to be stronger than your french. Is that what is happening now in Montreal where the French language is disappearing? I was there 10 years ago and I heard english spoken all the time in the new section of the city near McGill.
EN parlant d'étiquettes ,Montreal est une ville tres civilisée à comparer a Paris .... On attend en ligne pour le bus et partout ( les francais ne respecte pas les lignes d attente ) . On ne bouscule pas. On attend la lumiere pour piétons afin de traverser la rue .
@@jeanbolduc5818 En parlant étiquettes ? C'est qu'au Montréal on dit pas forcément bonjour dans un commerce , tutoie trop souvent , ça c'est pas de l'étiquette ! Ou pour être plus sympathique mais plus superficiel comme vous " comme ça va " alors que vous en foutez pas mal de la réponse
@@christofat2704les codes de politesse changent dun pays à l'autre et en effet, le bonjour ne fait pas parti des politesses obligatoires au Québec, contrairement à merci, sil vous plait, excusez moi et l'on tutoie plus facilement également mais ça, ça change beaucoup en France, les jeunes ont le tutoiement plus facile. Je pense qu'au Québec, on fait beaucoup plus attention au ton employé. Les gens en France peuvent se parler de maniere agressive, mais en employant le "vous". Au Québec, ce serait perçu comme de l'impolitesse. Le. Tu bienveillant est définitivement perçu comme plus poli que le vous agressif.
The two cities are nothing alike. The Québécois culture is French-speaking but North American in nature, not European. Also Montreal is de facto a bi-lingual city, but the rest of the Province of Quebec is not. Montreal is not a good place to learn French if you already know English. Many people here have lived here for decades but never learned French. Also Paris is located further North than Montreal, but has a far milder climate in winter.
12:20 “Paris still very much feels and looks as it might have 200 years ago.” Actually not at all. Paris is a true modern city, 75% of its buildings were built between 1880 and 1914, during the economic and colonial development that followed the establishment of the Third Republic. Sure it has older buildings in the center but few, and 120 years ago Paris would have felt just like Dubai today, a city built with incredible haste, following modern standards (boulevards and avenues, balconies, 6- to 7-stories buildings…).
75 % between 1880 -1914 ???? The change already started during during Napoléon the third that is why the building are called Haumassian who was the préfet of Paris during this reign
@@ehjo4904 Haussmann planned much of the urbanism, but most buildings were built during the Third Republic. It’s as if a dictatorship had been required to come up with this megalomaniac masterplan, but a liberal regime had been necessary to develop it successfully. The closer you get to WWI the more the building craze actually intensifies. So many of Paris’ buildings were built in 1913 and 1914. And then nothing, Europe crashed. On many buildings you can see the dates the building was built, and it makes you realize how WWI was a stupid useless suicidal barbaric thing. P.-S. Even the jewel of Haussmann’s urbanism, the Opéra Garnier, was finished in 1975, five years after the fall of Napoleon III, and inaugurated by the first president of the Third Republic, the infamous Mac Mahon.
As a quebecer who lives next to quebec, right now , Montréal isnt a safe due to the recent shcool and store shooting . I know that because i listen to the radio + i watch news
KFC Willingly switched their logo to PFK in 1978, rather than the expected "Poulet KFC" the charter asked for. This proved a boon for the brand up until the recent rise of new competitors. You are incorrect, and parroting misinformation.
As a Canadian wanting to live in a cool new city I so wish Montreal was just... not in Canada lol. It sounds like such an awesome place with good people, culture and environment to be around, and it's more affordable than Toronto and Vancouver, but like geography=wise... why does it have to have the -40 6-month Canadian winters... you could've been it Montreal
Aucune ville se compare à Paris! Certainement pas Montréal, qui est comme Détroit, mais francophone. Je suis Montréalaise, c'est une ville horrible mais pas désagréable, et surtout, sécuritaire.
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Both!! - many times! Montreal!! 🙂I adore Paris but in some ways I have to say I love Montreal more! I go back and forth! I like the more laid back atmosphere in Montreal! Vancouver is home but I do love that I also have family in Montreal as well. Safety is a huge issue in Paris - it's a reality. I always feel very safe in Montreal. LOVE your Manhattan videos too - love the hustle vibe! I have a love affair with that city along with Montreal!!
French born and raised in Paris
Been living in Montreal for the past 11 years
You’re totally on point !
Merci!
"enjoying the little things even in a stressful environment"
this is exactly how I enjoy living in Paris.
Pfk was named in French because the owner itself wanted it to be translated. Many brands keep the original name. Also Québec wants to remain francophone because others Canadian provinces such as Manitoba or Saskatchewan used to be francophone, but the British government and then the federal government baned French.
Exactly! Anglophones assume it's out of spite for English when really it's because of very real and valid historic reasons.
Not a single thing said above is true, but I do believe the person who posted it believed it to be true.
Coming from a zombie, I’ll go with the OP
True, true, true. Language laws do NOT require brand names to be translated. That’s how you can shop at Winners, Canadian Tire, Sail, Urban Outfitters, you can dine at East Side Mario’s or Burger King etc etc. However, many companies CHOSE to change their brand names to French for commercial reasons, simply to acknowledge and respect its French-speaking clientele. So Shoppers Drug Mart became Pharmaprix, Staples (an american company !) became Bureau en gros, KFC became PFK, etc.
I think you are speaking about the Manitoba Schools Question which did not have to do with the British. Eastern settlers displacing Metis in Manitoba let to rebellions, and this led to anti-Catholic legislation in the province over defunding Catholic schools (which were largely francophone at the time). To note is the fed government and the majority in central and Eastern Canada always supported the funding of the Catholic schools and the use of French in public institutions in Manitoba but Manitoba won the supreme court and privy council rulings (then located in Britain) against the federal government. Laurier eventually reached a settlement which provided public funding for French schools where sufficient population existed, but by then French was already used by less than 10% of Manitoba's population (today it is 3%). Aggressive settling by orangemen from Ontario basically stole Manitoba from being a bilingual province to an anglophone one. But to note is that the official policy of the Canadian government was never in support of the stripping of francophone rights in Manitoba. The history is a little more complicated in that francophones have always been a big part of Canada's political history. Like the head of the Canadian government at the time this happened, Wilfrid Laurier, was a francophone from Quebec.
I am French and Canadian and I lived in Paris, for me, for my kid, it’s Montreal the safer, where we feel happy and welcomed. The quality of living in Montreal is so much higher than Paris, at least for us. Forever Montrealers ❤ Pour toujours Montréal est notre port d’attache, là où nous avons les plus beaux moments de notre vie ♥️☀️
Il faut pas généraliser - moi je trouve Paris en sécurité, même dans 11ieme où j’habite. Je suis écossais mais francophone et j’ai trouvé les québécois un peu ignorant vers les anglophones. C'est comme l'impérialisme linguistique 😂
@@danieljonathanmartin L'inverse est vrai aussi !!!
la qualité de vie , c'est aussi la culture. Au Québec , le Canada en général c'est un peu le tiers monde .
@@christofat2704On parle du même endroit ?
@@christofat2704 Sans vouloir vous manquer de respect, cette manière de décrire et de voir les choses est, d'une part l'héritage du colonialisme, et d'autre part d'une ignorance telle face aux autres cultures.
I read somewhere in some travel guide, 'Montreal is the perfect mix of Brooklyn and Paris'
To your point about the new world/old world divide, I would phrase it a bit differently, especially as it concerns Parisians and French people moving to Montreal or Quebec in general. Oftentimes, they operate under the assumption that coming to Mtl is no differerent than moving to a French overseas territory, and that Quebecers are French/Europeans living in North America.
What they quickly realize is that Montreal/Quebecers are not a French city/people in North America, but rather a North American city/people that happen to speak French. And that distinction is crucially important.
What you are basically saying is that Mexicans, for instantce, are just Nortn Americans who happen to speak Spanish. Total gibberish.
Being French, living in France and having son and grandchildren living near Montreal and being Canadian citizens, I totally agree with you. I don’t remember who once said that Quebecers and French are separated by a common language. It often strike French speaking Quebecers when they visit France (not only Paris) that they can communicate with the locals despite the huge differences in the social environment.
Don't think I would agree with your sentence. Parisians often annoy Montrealers with there sense of entitlement for being the "original" French speakers and also Parisians complaint that is hard for them to break the ice because they are not from the New World. Im a new citizen in Canada and I can tell you making quebecois friends can be challenging...Not surprising though
That is not what he is saying. Quebecers have very little in common with the France of today. In terms of lifestyle and mentality they have more in common with the Americans and the British working class than with the French from France.
Also Mexico has a much richer culture than does Quebec.
@@guyl9456
The Québécois have their own mentality and do not blend well with people from other backgrounds.
@@diegovillalobos5364
This makes me want to visit Montreal so badly. As someone from North America living in Paris, it feels like Montreal combines the best of both worlds
It really does!
It is North America in french !
It's boring AF compared to any European city.
Me and my wife moved to Montreal mostly by watching your videos. Keep it up!
Faudrait apprendre le français si vous le parlez pas déjà
Loved this! I was so surprised when the cashier in Montréal used tu with me, I was so used to the use of vous from living in France😄
I’m wanting to go to Paris for my internship next summer but I’m thinking about moving to Montreal after college! This video helped!
In Quebec, It’s PFK but you’ll be welcomed by « Bonjour / Hi ». In France, you’ll go to a KFC and welcomed by a simple “bonjour”.
trueee 😂
Bonjour / Hi is only in Montreal. Try going to PFK in Sherbrooke, Lévis or Val d'Or and you will get a simple "Bonjour".
@@noseboop4354 Yes ! I should have said Montreal and not Quebec. Sorry !
You will be more welcomed by a "Hi" in the west side of Montreal and "Bonjour" in a city like Quebec.
let's get back to Bonjour in montreal instead of this aberation of Bonjour/hi there is no other place where they annonce all languages stuff
A most enjoyable, informative and brilliant comparison.
I really enjoy the anglo perspective you bring to this topic. You clearly know what you're talking about since you live in Montreal and you speak French but it's coming from an anglophone perspective. I like that and keep it up.
Merci!
You should visit Lafayette, Louisiana and speak with some Cajun French speakers. There is a large movement there at re-claiming the region’s french language. Lache pas la patate!
@TheNewTravel
i have always wondered why popeye's chicken's logo is similar to that in the flag of quebec, this explains it
It's doomed to fail. Maybe they'll know simple sentences like "Bonjour" and "merci", but pretty much all these lost language reclaiming efforts (French in the US, Gaelic in Ireland, etc) never make a full comeback to fluency.
I really enjoy your videos, Dan!!! Thank you! Personally I love both Paris and Montreal, but have only lived in Paris of the two cities. I lived in Paris for about 10 years in all, and that was several decades ago, and I truly felt at home there. I have lived in Quebec City for work for the past 16 years (WOW! Already!!) which is lovely, but I look forward to moving to Montreal for a number of reasons, as soon as possible. I really also love Montreal!
I like the way you describe the difference between Paris and Quebec. You understood and explained that French must be defended. Thank you very much for explaining it well.
I liveed in Montreal on and off for 18 years now, i left in 2021 to go to BC, and i must say it was kind of a shock to come back and see so many english signs, not bilingual at all, all over the city (and not just West of St-Laurent), more than before i think. The rents, like everywhere i guess, are now catching up with rest of Canada, which is a shame too...
It's always been a fear of many French Canadians to lose our language...it is deep rooted, and hard to fully understand if you are from somewhere with the same issues. Quebec is a very unique place.
I understand the idea behind the language laws, and i understand It can seem rough. It's also is very true, you can totally live in Montreal without ever living in MONTRÉAL, you know? It sound sad to me...why wouldn't you want be part of the whole deal?
I have some friends from South America who got robbed in Paris and other cities in Europe while they were traveling. Some folks have misconceptions about security around the world, largely formed by media and incorrect interpretations of data. For instance, some spots in South America and Africa can be more peaceful and safe than some large cities in Europe. With globalization, this issue can become significant. Thus, it's really fantastic living surrounded by the safety of Montreal, despite all the problems and the large population.
this comment is so wrong in so many ways, there are no safe spots in South America, I can say that for sure cause I live there
and I’m currently staying in Europe and it is WAY safer than South America
I’m from Brazil, and there are many places and cities that are quite safe. Don’t judge an entire continent based solely on your perspective or experience. For example, medium-sized cities in Santa Catarina or São Paulo are good references, as are cities in Uruguay and Chile. In fact, I’m confident you might feel safer there than in Paris or New York.
KFC is not forced to use PFK according to actual laws, it just decides to change it for their own corporate reasons. Some international brands decide to keep their English name such as Dairy Queen or Canadian Tire. Others decide to change their names to French such a Shoppers' Drug Mart which is called Pharmaprix in Quebec or Staples which is called Bureau en Gros in Quebec. What the law says is if you have an English only name, it must be accompanied by a French description like Café Starbuck , Supercentre Walmart or Best Buy Électronique Électroménagers.
But by that logic they could have chosen PFK because of the laws. For instance, let’s say they would have needed a description like “KFC poulet frit”.
Then the corporate team at KFC would think… “that’s sort of redundant and silly, what’s a simpler way to do it? Ah let’s translate to PFK”
So by effect they were forced because the law gave them no option to carry on as normal as they would have preferred. But you are right there are still choices available.
Since I didn’t grow up in Quebec I might be misunderstanding something, but that’s how I perceive it to be
@@TheNewTravel It's also give them unique signature. I know KFC but what is PFK ? DO you find Chicken Poutine in a PFK ?
@@TheNewTravel They would not have needed to do that. Does Burger King call itself ''le restaurant Burger King''? No. As was pointed out, they made a business decision, based on what they deemed to be their best commercial interests. Same business decision that Staples made when they chose to go by ''Bureau en gros'' in Quebec.
Now, where it gets tricky is that names that are trademarked do not need to be translated, but those that aren't need to. For instance, in the case of Starbucks, the only part that is trademarked is 'Starbucks'. As such, they can't call themselves Starbucks Coffee, which would be in violation of language laws. They need to call themselves ''Les cafés Starbucks''.
This issue is honestly kind of complicated, there are many language requirements when it comes to commercial advertising, but there are a ton of exceptions and exemptions as well.
I would also point out that in France, there is a law called ''la Loi Toubon'' which dictates that commercial services must be provided in French and that management has to communicate with employees in French. So in that sense, they have similar concerns when it comes to the anglicization of their culture.
@@louisd.8928I wouldn’t say France is worried abt it, I mean it’s France, but there are definitely laws that make French as much as possible and not English . The French love their language, and the francophone world is huge , whether that be on social media , or international institutions and organizations. It’s also a reason France falls very behind it’s other European counterparts in speaking English and any other languages
@@maxximum5980 I'm not quite sure about that.
Nice video, very interesting comparison! Thank you Dan!
I love Montreal and I hope I can get to know Paris someday. For the french laws I saw a few comments talking about: one thing the politicians can't understand is that the more you make it mandatory to speak french, the more people are gonna hate it. I'm busting my ass learning french, but not because someone told me to, but instead because I respect their culture and want to feel immersed in it. People are like teenagers: if you try to make them do something by force, they're gonna do the opposite just to upset you. And that's sad, because Montreal and it's culture have much more to offer than hate and segregation...
Québec has already tried it . Ask the italian immigrants for opportunistics reason who have favoured english in a french speaking society before the pro-french laws were imposed.
IN Rome do as Romans do . This is called respect .
Hate and segregation ??
@@alioshax7797 Are you telling it is useless to learn french in a french speaking society. In Québec there are people who still can not speak french after 10yrs . And then play the racist card when they encounter some salty moments from their rude attitude
@@alioshax7797 I an not talking about the world i am talking about Québec. In Rome do as Romans do
This is called respect
FYI, PFK was chosen before language laws that necessitated french signs were introduce. Also fun fact; a lot of companies like Staples (Bureau en Gros in Qc) did the same thing and saw a growth in profit afterwards.
It's called PFK in French parts of New Brunswick too
Interesting! I didn't know that
Yen a dans la péninsule?pas sure
Damn, you really said so much in such a short video. You really nailed some important points. (coming from a Montrealer who's visited Paris)
I grew up in Canada reading French on serial boxes so the only sign I had trouble reading on my first visit to Montreal was the RC sign in the elevator. I had to wait for someone else to step in to get to the lobby floor.
I live in Ontario but Montreal is like my second home. It's my favourite city in the world. Honestly the French are the most interesting part of Canada. Montreal as a city has such a great vibe, energy and spirit. Whenever I feel down, I go there. The only downside I would say in Quebec is the healthcare system. Which is a shame because France has such good healthcare.
For me, as a Quebecker, being called French is not insulting at all. However, I expect that the person who is calling me French is also calling people from the US and English Canadians just "English" and every American the European nationality of the language they are speaking, which is often not the case.
There lies the problem : contrasting us as "European" to English Canadians who would be more more legitimate on our continent. Misrepresenting us bothers me a lot since we always have people who talk on our behalf and seldom have people actually listening what we have to say.
Montreal and Paris are really beautiful, exciting and colorful cities, they have nothing to lose, and I'd think people in France would be offended by tourists who try to speak English with them because is hardly spoken by the French, they would easily get annoyed if you don't speak French, either because you don't have a good level of it or understand the spoken language. That's unfortunately my case. They're also kinda hermetic to the English-speaking world. The same would happen if you are in the aforementioned Canadian city. France and Canada have such stereotypical societies just like any other country. You couldn't bring certain topics up just for your own well-being as well as the others'. What an unpredictable world we live in!
For all of those who hates on Qc french law, can you just look at Quebec history, specially in the 50, to understand why we have this law. Can you just reflect about it and put you in our shoes. Im sorry but if you cannot understand this law and found it strict, you are just silly! If you come live here and dont want to have to speak french maybe consider go somewhere else.
I agree for the most part, except for language control.
There is the "Académie Française" and the French do not tolerate English at the office (or starting a conversation in English).
Bro please keep making these videos too we like them as well :) much love
Interesting video. Thanks for the comparisons!
Interesting comparison. Thank you 😊
Glad you enjoyed
FYI Montréal is only the 10th largest French speaking city in the world. The 8 others and much larger are in Africa.
That is an interesting fact!
That largely depends on what makes a city 'French'. What's your metric? Official language? Total population? Share of the population that speaks French? Or share of the population that speaks French as their first language?
I stayed at an Airbnb literally right next to that PFK 😭
If New France had not been conquered by the British in the 18th century, who imported their civilization from Great Britain into the New World, their habits and customs, Montreal, architecturally, would undoubtedly resemble Paris. Indeed, during the Second French Empire in the 19th century, mainly comprising the countries of the Maghreb, Indochina and Pondicherry in India, the French imported their civilization into these countries and their know-how in architecture. In Algiers, for example, there are Haussmann-style buildings, like in Paris. Why would it not have been the same in Montreal or Quebec city, part of whose built heritage reflects that of France in the 17th century, that is to say before the Conquest of 1759?
I would say that the best comparison for an American city would be between Boston and London.
I find the culture of Montreal is also shaped by the presence of 5 big universities, which brings a lot of highly educated people into the area. Biggest difference though is Montreal is built on unceeded territory stolen from the original indigenous people. Like all of North America it's the site of a physical & cultural genocide. Very, very little visible acknowledgement of the original First Nation communities in the names, architecture etc of Montreal, even though there are members of those communities still living in the city & suburbs. Massive need for reconciliation and investment in these original indigenous languages.
I know. I am Francophone, + a few. The T is silent! Looking forward to going to Mont Tremblant. The t is silent, en Francais.
Montreal is one of my favorite place in this whole wide world for it's open mindness, diversity, food, cultural charm and people :)
In France (and many other european countries), stop signs say STOP. In Quebec, the signs say Arret.
i think Paris is a fast paced city by French standards. i live in Poitiers in Nouvelle-Aquitaine and this is somewhere r you really experience a slow pace of life. paris is wayyyy quicker but i’m originally from London which is on a whole new level
KFC did that change by themselves, they were not forced. They over-complied, in a way. They could have changed their sign to "KFC - poulet frit", or something like that. Just like "Second Cup" added a small line on top of their logo, for "Les cafés SECOND CUP".
Everything is true except the cost of living, paris is in fact cheaper than Montreal by around 30% I would say (except for rent)
The French believe in “joie de vivre” or “joy of living.” They work to live, not the other way around. That’s why Paris, despite being a massive city, doesn’t have the hustle culture and you will see people sitting at cafes or parks, simply watching the world go by around them.
Montréal is my home but Paris is my favourite place to visit ❤
Love your channel dude
Thanks!
While Aux Invalides in Paris, I asked 4 questions to a museum guide and he correctly replied to my inquiries. I asked him if he understood my Quebec French why did he answer in english? He looked surprised. Paris is a very cosmopolitan city and they are more than often trilingual. Anecdote.... I watched a French movie 'Les Vetos' --- 4 songs in english (clearly french accents). funny but sad.
Because your intonation is very American for someone who are not used to your accent
@@ehjo4904 The mystery still continues...
@@claudelemire2451 Petite anecdote, la première que je suis venu à Montréal , il m'ai souvent arrivé que je pensais que les personnes me parlaient en Anglais Americain avec moi avec que je réalise que c'était du français. Je dit bien Anglais Americain parce que je m'étais déjà habitué à l'accent Londonien où j'ai passé plus d'un mois avant d'atterrir à Montréal
No Paris is not trilingual. Only in touristic places do they speak English or possibly German. Generally - French people think the Quebecois accent is somewhat low grade.
Quebec french accent is the french spoken by the kings of France from 1534 to 1763 .It was the most developed colony of New France . The King sent girls from Paris to Quebec city to build families ( les filles du Roi ) . Madonna , Angelina Jolie and Hilary Clinton ancestors are from Quebec girls from the King of FRance ... All Madonna s children speak french living in the UK .
Following the Seven Years' War, Quebec became a British colony in the British Empire. It was first known as the Province of Quebec (1763-1791), then as Lower Canada (1791-1841), and then as Canada East (1841-1867) as a result of the Lower Canada Rebellion. During this period, the inferior socio-economic status of francophones (because anglophones dominated the natural resources and industries of Quebec french language was forbidden at work ) the Catholic church, resistance against cultural assimilation, and isolation from non English-speaking populations were important themes. English canada burnt down the Canadian parliament in Montreal ( the Capital ) because of a resolution past by the parliament to pay back the french canadians who suffered from damages of extremist english canadian and american burning down their houses . The queen Victoria then moved the capital of Canada to Ottawa . A very unilingual city in Ontario ...
I don't even speak like my grandmother, don't tell me that our language has not evolved since the filles du roi. I find this very naïve. Listen to archives from Radio Canada, we don't speak like them... I am tired of hearing that our language has not evolved. A language that does not evolve is a dying one.
Montreal and Paris aren’t that similar imo. I’d say Berlin and Brussels reminded me a lot more of Montreal based on my experience. I enjoy Montréal a lot more though, the people are much friendlier, city is much cleaner, is safer, not overrun by tourists, and you don’t feel like an outsider not being a native francophone
That's because most of Montreal's architecture is British and not French. Quebec city is a better example of French architecture.
@@noseboop4354 Not even British except some pockets , it is essentially Quebecois. never seen this exterior staircases abroad not in France nor in the U.K
8:19 Paris is for sure one of the most unsafest city in Europe
10:40 Parisians work to live when NYkers live to work. There's a real lifestyle in Paris
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Glad you like them!
Thanks for the video, Dan. I love Montreal.
Montreal😍
great video comparing the two!
Funny thing is, in 1867 Montreal was 75% anglophone. Much of the French Canadian population lived in the rural areas and gradually moved into Montreal throughout the 20th century. I lived in Montreal for three years and never would compare it to Paris. Completely different places as far as I can see except for the French-speaking factor. And a Frenchman told me he didn't think they spoke proper French in Quebec. I guess he was a language snob.
A French language snob? No way! *sarcasm*
I guess it is fine if you think then anglo-canadians do not speak proper English as in England, right?
@@veroniquelauzon2801 You'd have to ask an Englishman that question.
@@argopunk already did
@@veroniquelauzon2801 What did the Englishman say?
So far on here you only asked me if it's fine that a Frenchman thinks that way as long as I feel it's okay if an Englishman thinks that way about English spoken in Canada. My opinion never factored into my original comment, I simply was told that by a Frenchman because he heard I was Canadian. But people are welcome to their opinion, I don't care what anyone thinks about how French or English are spoken in Canada. I don't define myself by the language I speak anyway. It's just the lingua franca.
I love this video. You are both charming and your take on the topic is informative. I live in NYS about 4.5 hours from Montreal but haven't been there in years, but would choose to go to Montreal before ever going to New York City. I really dislike NYC!
Great video enjoy it
vers la minute 6, tu prononces "tu" incorrectement comme "tou" et donc tu n'es pas francophone ou partiellement sans avoir jamais réussi à prononcer un "u" français, qui correspond au "ü" allemand, ou encore ressemble au "y" norvégien, etc.
Et celà amène les deux principales différences entre Paris et Montréal:
- Paris est une ville entièrement francophone, et une ville d'urbanisme européen
- Montréal est une ville essentiellement américaine dans son urbanisme, avec un tout petit peu de vieille-ville et culturellement schizophrénique: Montréal-Ouest et Montréal-Est.
Je suis nativement bilingue français et espagnol, ma langue quotidienne est le norvégien, et sinon j'utilise assez régulièrement deux autres langues mais l'anglais me pose trop de problèmes et je ne l'utilise que sur internet à l'écrit. Pour moi Montréal-Est à partir de McGill c'est l'Angleterre. Curieusement lors de mon dernier séjour à Montréal, je pouvais effectuer mes achats et aller boire une bière ou au resto, uniquement en ... espagnol..
La caractéristique des anglos est de considérer l'anglais comme l'unique langue de l'univers, les autres langues sont vues comme une chose optionnelle, décorative, de second degré. Un français, un italien, un polonais, etc, qui voyage à l'étranger, ne va pas utiliser par défaut sa langue dans les magasins. Les anglo eux utilisent par défaut l'anglais partout en présupposant que les gens doivent comprendre et que s'ils ne comprennent pas ils sont inférieurs.
Ce qui amène le thème du "multiculturalisme": lorsque les canadiens parlent de multiculturalisme ils pensent en "américain", c'est une vue racialiste et pas culturelle. Exple: un Belge peut-être un Flamand ou un Wallon, et donc parler le flamand ou le wallon il s'agit de deux cultures différentes, mais visuellement un Flamand et un Wallon sont généralement identiques, "racialement". La Belgique, la Suisse, l'Espagne sont des pays multi-culturels car ils ont des populations indigènes de cultures et langues différentes. Multiplicité.
Les anglos, en raison du racialisme yanqui, ne voient pas celà, mais sont obsédés par l'aspect racial, et ils parlent de multi-culturalisme non pas pour désigner de multiples cultures, mais des populations à caractéristiques physiques (couleurs de peau, aspects de visage, cheveux, etc) différentes de la norme nord-européenne ou européenne pâle.
WHAT'S THAT SMELL in the Montreal air? Yes, MONTREAL is More CHILL ❤
KFC turned to PFK before the bill 101 to try and sell to the local population. So when the law was created they were already ok.
By the time they decided to open locations in France the KFC name was already known worldwide so they didn't feel the need to use a french version.
Cost of living ? Besides housing , Paris is not more expensive. Food are of better quality and no tips and added taxes .
Haha Tu paye les taxes autrement.
@@rachelc2227 C'est toujours moins cher . Haha
But rent/housing is THE biggest expense for everyone...
Tu as des videos en français ? J'aime bien tes petites reportages.
Nice video!
Nice video 👍
Im from Morocco and I like Paris.
montreal is more laid back because of the weather
Please visit Quebec city!
But we did!! .. It may be easier to compare quebec city to Renne than Paris though
Actually, it was a corporate decision to change KFC to PFK and not because of the french law 101.
Pourmoi la difference est que je passerais volontier 2-3 ans à Paris, mais je voudrais passer ma vie à Montreal. La vie est trop courte pour passer autant de temps à se soucier de ce que les autres pensent de nous. Dans une autre vidéo, un Montrealais immigrant a dit "I like Montreal because you can be as weird as you want and nobody gives a fuck". Je pense que c'est vrai. Du moins, plus vrai qu'à Paris qui est beaucoup plus formattée.
7:28 “Ah ouais ?”, haha you’ve really become a Parisian yourself mdr
ahaha
Love Lupin!!!
Hey Dan. Do you think is worth it to immigrate from Europe to Montreal in 2024/2025?
I live in mtl have been to Paris a few times. I would say no it is extremely cold here most of the year and a smaller city
I would say that people in Montreal are nicer though
That was fabulous 🥲
Visite Paris mais habite à Montréal, je pense que c'est la meilleure solution
Tout a fait
Umm, they speak the same language, and that's all. Would you do Edinburgh and Houston compared?
Paris and Montreal are probably the 2 most famous french speaking cities in the world. Could be more like NYC and London compared - which I think would be an interesting video as well
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Paris et Montréal. C'est Londres et Toronto
you're a genius !
I might be old fashion, but tu vs vous is the same as in France
Not use the same way...
Euro are more formal
We are more casual in america😊
@@clairelevasseur9434 malheureusement. Moi qqun qui me tutoie sans me connaître, ça peut être un deal breaker :)
France is not as threatened by english and french people are nowhere near becoming fluent in english anytime soon, although there's a lot of words we borrow from english but with a very heavy french accent and pronunciation, no english speaker would even understand :)
in france we are not exposed to english as much because everything on TV, for example, is dubbed in french, we do have lots of english words because it looks cool to us, but overall, French is so dominant in our daily lives that you HAVE TO speak it to get by, unlike Quebec (or similarly in California you can get by speaking only Spanish)
I much more prefer Montréal, been there a few times and have family there. Never been to Paris but all the rumors I’ve heard of it makes me not want to go there. lol
Were you born in Montreal?
Your english seems to be stronger than your french.
Is that what is happening now in Montreal where the French language is disappearing?
I was there 10 years ago and I heard english spoken all the time in the new section of the city near McGill.
No, I moved to Montreal in 2019.
LEARNING FRENCH is harder in Montreal because of the higher rate of Bilingualism. 😮
Montréal looks nothing French to me, it looks very North American. Québec City looked more European for sure, even scandinavianish
North American for an European ! but the extensive mid density hoods like Plateau, hochelaga, verdun etc is also unknown in North America.
fun fact: neither Paris nor Montreal are the largest French speaking city in the world
Kinshasa, interesting, never heard of.
Étiquette and formality are the key of politness in France .
EN parlant d'étiquettes ,Montreal est une ville tres civilisée à comparer a Paris .... On attend en ligne pour le bus et partout ( les francais ne respecte pas les lignes d attente ) . On ne bouscule pas. On attend la lumiere pour piétons afin de traverser la rue .
@@jeanbolduc5818 Attendre que ce soit vert quand il y'a personne sur la rue . Ça c'est du formatage pire de l'idiotie
@@jeanbolduc5818 En parlant étiquettes ? C'est qu'au Montréal on dit pas forcément bonjour dans un commerce , tutoie trop souvent , ça c'est pas de l'étiquette ! Ou pour être plus sympathique mais plus superficiel comme vous " comme ça va " alors que vous en foutez pas mal de la réponse
@@christofat2704cest pas du formattage ni de lidiotie, ni du civisme d'ailleurs, juste des amendes plus cher
@@christofat2704les codes de politesse changent dun pays à l'autre et en effet, le bonjour ne fait pas parti des politesses obligatoires au Québec, contrairement à merci, sil vous plait, excusez moi et l'on tutoie plus facilement également mais ça, ça change beaucoup en France, les jeunes ont le tutoiement plus facile. Je pense qu'au Québec, on fait beaucoup plus attention au ton employé. Les gens en France peuvent se parler de maniere agressive, mais en employant le "vous". Au Québec, ce serait perçu comme de l'impolitesse. Le. Tu bienveillant est définitivement perçu comme plus poli que le vous agressif.
québec a nation inside a another nation
were you staying in “The People” Nation hostel?
The two cities are nothing alike.
The Québécois culture is French-speaking but North American in nature, not European.
Also Montreal is de facto a bi-lingual city, but the rest of the Province of Quebec is not. Montreal is not a good place to learn French if you already know English. Many people here have lived here for decades but never learned French.
Also Paris is located further North than Montreal, but has a far milder climate in winter.
12:20 “Paris still very much feels and looks as it might have 200 years ago.”
Actually not at all. Paris is a true modern city, 75% of its buildings were built between 1880 and 1914, during the economic and colonial development that followed the establishment of the Third Republic. Sure it has older buildings in the center but few, and 120 years ago Paris would have felt just like Dubai today, a city built with incredible haste, following modern standards (boulevards and avenues, balconies, 6- to 7-stories buildings…).
75 % between 1880 -1914 ???? The change already started during during Napoléon the third that is why the building are called Haumassian who was the préfet of Paris during this reign
@@ehjo4904 Haussmann planned much of the urbanism, but most buildings were built during the Third Republic. It’s as if a dictatorship had been required to come up with this megalomaniac masterplan, but a liberal regime had been necessary to develop it successfully. The closer you get to WWI the more the building craze actually intensifies. So many of Paris’ buildings were built in 1913 and 1914. And then nothing, Europe crashed. On many buildings you can see the dates the building was built, and it makes you realize how WWI was a stupid useless suicidal barbaric thing.
P.-S. Even the jewel of Haussmann’s urbanism, the Opéra Garnier, was finished in 1975, five years after the fall of Napoleon III, and inaugurated by the first president of the Third Republic, the infamous Mac Mahon.
@@RalfAnodin 1875^*
GO TO MARSEILLE! AND ASK HOW MANY LANGUAGES DO YOU SPEAK?!
As a quebecer who lives next to quebec, right now , Montréal isnt a safe due to the recent shcool and store shooting . I know that because i listen to the radio + i watch news
Montreal is still much safer than most cities of comparable size.
You have never been to Chicago, Pitts or Philly and it shows.
Quebec is a better city, not because it is safer, but because it is prettier.
KFC Willingly switched their logo to PFK in 1978, rather than the expected "Poulet KFC" the charter asked for.
This proved a boon for the brand up until the recent rise of new competitors. You are incorrect, and parroting misinformation.
As a Canadian wanting to live in a cool new city I so wish Montreal was just... not in Canada lol. It sounds like such an awesome place with good people, culture and environment to be around, and it's more affordable than Toronto and Vancouver, but like geography=wise... why does it have to have the -40 6-month Canadian winters... you could've been it Montreal
Le froid nous a et protège des envahisseurs lol
Yes we know about the law of language in quebec forcing businesses to use french in some way. Forcing languages and other things is not a nice thing
Non c'est pas normal que des entreprises parlent le même langages que ses clients.
Montreal > Paris
Paris >>>>>>>>>>> Canada
Aucune ville se compare à Paris! Certainement pas Montréal, qui est comme Détroit, mais francophone. Je suis Montréalaise, c'est une ville horrible mais pas désagréable, et surtout, sécuritaire.
Montreal has a very provincial mentality.
merci
Is true! you are cool when you get a vintage shirt from a thrift store. Those places are always packed with "cool to be people" :P