in brief: In this video, the speaker shares her experience of becoming a software developer without a computer science degree. She had studied graphic communications management in university and discovered her interest in software development through a basic HTML and CSS coding course. After graduating, she decided against going back to school for another four years and explored alternative paths, such as self-teaching and attending a coding boot camp. She chose a coding boot camp for the extra support and community it provided. After the three-month boot camp, she still felt unprepared but persisted in her efforts to find a job. She applied to smaller startups and eventually landed a QA position in a non-for-profit company. After working in QA for less than a year, she transitioned to a developer role within the same company. She has since moved on to a big tech company and enjoys her work as a software developer. Her advice to others considering a career in software development without a computer science degree includes: 1. Be persistent, as the journey is not easy, but it is worth it. 2. Determine your learning style and choose a path accordingly, whether it's self-teaching, attending a boot camp, or joining online communities for support. 3. Focus on smaller companies, as they might have more relaxed interview processes and be more open to hiring juniors. 4. Be open to starting in a different tech-related position, such as QA, and then transition to a developer role. She emphasizes that it's becoming more common for people to enter the software development field through alternative paths, and success is possible without a computer science degree.
I have just completed my first month as a software engineer after transitioning from construction in 16 months. I have no degree or background in tech. I am self taught and completed full stack bootcamp. If I can do it you can do it. Just never give up and stay consistent.
Yes you can definitely do it. I am a Software Engineer without even a high school degree plus I started learning Software Engineering at age of 24. Currently I am nearly 26 years old and I just got an internship with one of the best software companies on my country morocco.
@@emilpeev9981 I don't like saying this but I am an INTJ I hate quitting that is in my personality, my parents are not educated so I had to depend on myself all the time, I even had to work in the construction for 2 months to buy a laptop so I can study software engineering. Before I went into software engineering I used to do some physics, math and metaphysics in my free time that helped a lot.
Probably I'll be doing same after 8 months, from 'may' to be exact!! I would also have completed 23!! Me too have No degree at all, no parent support to make it upto THE DREAM!! I'm also REALLY good at physics and maths... We have kinda same situation, i mean the PAST you!❤️ Thanks 4 sharing 💚
As someone who's finally getting into programming after getting my ADHD under control with non stimulant medications, I'm finally chasing my dream and learning to code, and to think like a programmer. It was so bad I was drifting through life, but now, I have goals and dreams, and ideas, and seeing videos like this pop up in my suggested videos feed keeps me motivated
I think I have ADHD too, and I'm trying to learn programation. What kind of medication you're taking? I'm feeling like you were feeling before the medication. Feels like i have no goals, can't pay attention to things. It feels like I can't achieve things in life.
As a successful software developer lead, I am glad that you emphasized the persistence needed. I don’t have a degree. I couldn’t find the program I wanted for a school I could get into, so I self-taught. I was lucky enough to be given a comprehensive project and a long enough deadline that I could take the time to learn. Then I took courses to learn some basic computer science fundamentals and apply them to the technology stack I was developing. Keep learning! try not to learn too many languages and platforms, but also don’t stay with just one ecosystem. If you start with HTML/CSS (for instance) and it makes your head spin, go to something else. Find the language or the community that fits you. Good luck!
I have been learning programming for a year and a half by online courses while working full time and studying in a university in a completely different field. This week I’m going to my first 3 tech interviews. I’m so excited and along the way I never believed I can do that, but you are right that consistency IS the key. Just keep going ya’ll ❤
I've been working for almost 20 years as a software engineer and developer and I do have a degree. However, the great thing today, you don't need one as learning through online platoforms and communities is way faster if you are dedicated and passionate. It was not like that 20 years ago.
@@raccross8924 You need a network. She is a woman, so it is easier for her to bypass most requirements. A recruiter or the boss must have had a liking for someone like her to get a job like that with no degree or prior knowledge.
I'm glad to see women who love the profession of developer. I have university studies in computer science and I learn a lot every day; sometimes difficult but persist. Thanks for the video!.😊
@филип коренев I would narrow down where you want to go by location and what you want to major in. If you don’t know what you want to major in, go for largers schools, but even knowing you want to generally get into the sciences helps. I was interested in Michigan and Massachusettes, so I looked at schools primarily in those areas. I didn’t know what major I wanted so I chose schools with business, art, and science degrees. When you look up schools for a particular subject, they generally rank them. So, better schools for what you want in a major will be your “reach” school, harder to get into but you want to go. Searching by location and price, look at what majors they offer and whether they teach it well. I eventually chose the major of Neuroscience, and I learned that some schools offer this but it’s actually a modified psychology degree, which I didn’t want, so I made sure the school I went to had a Neuroscience program with a sufficient science background. (you can look up the major requirements to see what classes they require to get the degree, e.g. “msu neuroscience major requirements”) Schools more far away might also be “reach” schools due to potential cost. Generally, you want a list of 5 schools you want to apply to and it doesn’t hurt to apply to more(unless the application fees really add up and you don’t want to pay a lot).
Women and ladies(kids even) are just as capable of understanding programming as anyone else... yes that includes men! I am proud you are stepping into it :) My heart goes to you as I never would have paid for that knowledge :( But, well i guess you got a much better reason to get into a programming job than me now :) I wanna say im sorry for you, but too... I know you are here for Tiffs guidance... and oh how Tiff will guide you well im sure :) Im a basically born programmer... and well shes starting to show me guidance even heh :) I think by watching her vids you will def fill better and find that job! Like she said in some other vid... your gonna have to try and try again many times! (BUT you will get a job!)
@@benka3019 that means that your mind was just curious about this fantastic topic, although didn’t had any practical purpose to click. Me just the same. I just couldn’t react in time and take control on this “clickbate”.
I love your story, thanks for sharing. I have a computer science degree, but most of the successful people I’ve hired over the years did not....but their drive, willingness to learn and interest in helping others led them to accomplish great things. Keep on inspiring others :)
I agree I’m studying software engineering in my final year i’m a undergrad student and I have a older cousin who’s been in this field for 15 years and his guidance has helped me out so much
I’m an accountant from Italy, currently learning phyton and business analysis. Feeling that you help your clients (local businesses) and providing added value it’s the best feeling ever had. Btw my aunt is a data scientist in pharmaceutics even though having a bachelor in medicine, she told me that was little hard yet satisfying.
I became a web developer after two completely unrelated colleges. Not that I didn't think about it before but my parents didn't encourage me, I lacked the confidence, I also didn't have a computer until I was 21. Then I just got more and more into computers and ended up ditching 8 years of studies to be a developer.
@@Scarlettada hi. I work for a SaaS company and a marketing agency right now. I typically write blogs about project management, moving companies, tech, and healthcare. If you want to get in, you might want to work on your grammar first. Then focus on writing in a fun and engaging style. Gather your write-ups/samples in one portfolio so you can easily reference them when you apply. I also recommend reading 'So You Think You Can Write?' by Julia McCoy. It helped me a lot.
This was a great video! I was getting my undergrad degree in Political Science. I loved it but also was really interested in computer science but, like you, wasn't about to start another degree. I first was going to get a CS minor, but after talking to the department head, realized getting a CS masters made a lot more sense. It took me about 3-3.5 years to get it because I had to obviously take the CS fundamental courses before I could begin the Masters. I delayed my undergrad graduation by a year to get those classes in, then I officially became a Masters student. I worked in cybersecurity for four years after that, hated it, and decided I wanted to do front-end web development because i loved the creative aspect to it. So I quit my job, self taught for a year (RUclips, Udemy courses, books, etc...) and will be starting my first job as a front-end web developer in 2 weeks. That year of self teaching was extremely hard mentally, not knowing when or if it would pay off and getting your first job with no experience is really hard. Everyone's path is different, but you can learn anything from the internet if you're willing to.
I'm realizing more and more that the golden quality you need to build up any skill is humility. Seeing yourself as you are and building from there instead of creating some grandiose view of yourself in your head and expecting things conform to your inflated view and then getting upset and confused when they don't. You're a newbie and you somehow imagine that your rate of improvement, or skill level, or certain lower level roles are somehow beneath you. You've to say to yourself, "who the hell do you think you are?" And as I was listening to your journey, I felt that at each juncture, your decisions indicate that you possessed this quality. It's really wonderful.
Thanks for the encouragement. My friend did a month of learning Java and then jumped into an 8 week intense boot camp for full stack training. He made it through with great scores and got a job. I, on the other hand, have been studying Java for 3 months. I'm enjoying it, and it's not difficult, but I'm not staying very diligent with my course work (udemy self paced). I kind of miss having deadlines and someone expecting me to have completed a certain amount of something.... Maybe I need to hire an accountability couch XD
I think that 'community sense' that you mentioned is the biggest advantage at the bootcamp. When you self-study you just doing things that nobody can check or appreciate, and every time you need to force yourself being disciplined and hardwork, which takes lots of energy. But on bootcamp everything goes smoothly. It took 7 month for me to get a job as a web developer from zero, 3 selfstudy, 3 month bootcamp and 1 month job hunting. If you have a chance to go to bootcamp I think that is the best way to get into tech industry. You will know many likeminded people and getting a job will become much more easier.
Hey man, just would like to ask. How many hours per day did you dedicated for self-study? I'm planning to go with this path as well. Couple of months for self-study then bootcamp. And what resources did you used during that self-study period. Thanks, much appreciated.
Last year I got my first job ever after school, and also my first tech job in tech support. It's a long way ti being a developer, but so much closer than when I was at home learning by myself.
Great video! Your video helped me a lot, I'm 22 years old and I am a health professional but i discovered coding and I'm in love with that so I decided to study by my own and be a self taught programmer, wish me luck haha and greets from Argentina! Sorry for my english btw
“Have you ever wanted to be in technology or dreamt of being software development but don’t want to go back to bachelors for computer science for another 4 years” this explains my life right now.! Thank you for info
Happy that you were able to cut out the school and make it work with your persistence! Haha. My path was different , and I did go back to school for a second undergraduate CS degree. You'll definitely get exposed to more things going back to school - the broader workings of computers across the spectrum like how to computers talk to each other, how do they work at the logic gate level and general PC architecture, software architecture, application development and design, cybersecurity, algorithms, databases, and other stuff. Unfortunately our school didn't teach us much on testing or CI/CD. I only grasped that after my first internship. However, I think you're a lot better trained as a general software developer in general if you go to college, as well as you can explore which type of computer related engineer you want to do (software, network, database, dev-ops, high-level programming (javascript, java) or lower-level (C, and tasks involving scripting). You'll use a lot of the concepts you learned in various ways but a fair bit of the stuff isn't going to directly apply to whatever job you start in initially. However, I have friends who went the Bootcamp route and they either got a QA or junior dev job at smaller startups. It's really about getting your foot in the door, and learning on the job you'd probably be a ** significantly ** better developer on the project at year 3 than someone who went back to school for 3 years and is fresh to the project; simply because when you work a job all you do is code or work with code + get paid to do it. So bootcamp is probably the smarter route if you're looking for a career switch, but you'll have a steeper learning curve on the job and to figure out all the processes of development. If you want to be a network engineer you can take certifications like cisco's CNNA with self-study. Or take it piece wise CCENT1 + CCENT2 = CCNA. But you'll likely get a job at a help-desk first before switching to a network engineer role. That was something I looked at before ending up going back to school. Anyways, going back to college was really tough mentally in my late 20's, but I don't regret it. I think I'm a lot more capable and well-rounded as a result. Bootcamp is a good route too though.
Fully agree with this. I’m 29 and doing a CS degree. I do a lot of separate online Udemy courses, even did a full stack web dev course. The latter had some enjoyable parts but I learnt nothing about computers. I love learning how computers work and this is how I know I probably want to be as far away from the front end as possible. Doing a bootcamp could possibly land you an entry level web deb job but to become more than a programmer, to become a software engineer, the degree is your best route. The word software engineer is thrown around a lot these days. Unless you’re actually building software, you’re not a software engineer.
Just wanna share a little bit of my experience. I am a software engineer and my major in university was International Business and I didn't go to a bootcamp. I would say it is not an easy journey to learn programming without solid IT knowledge. Also, there are still a lot of IT companies that want to see CS degree on the resume. But the demand in IT industry is growing, just keep trying and the chance to get in is there. So, to be a software engineers without CS degree is challenging but it is pretty much possible.
I just woke up and saw you talking about such great things made my day and my decision to be a programmer is more focused now. Thank you for helping those who needed this kind of support and knowledge. Subscribed🙌🏻
Thank you for this video! I have a degree in Fashion Marketing with a background in Psychology and transitioning into tech which I love. I am taking a UX design course and doing some basic HTML practice tasks. I love that in tech you can apply creativity skills alongside technical skills.
I just dropped out of my only CS class today, I guess RUclips has great comedic timing haha. I really wanted to like learn CS, the class was teaching us about Python, but they moved wayyy to fast for someone who hasn't ever coded before.
Don't feel bad man, I was taking C# around this time last semester. Screwed around and let the class get away from me and had to Withdraw. Taking it again and I feel the same way. Try to do some self learning and maybe try the class again and you might have an easier time. But you are definitely not the only one that is struggling with this, there is a learning curve.
Omg I'm also learning python now and have been taking the class for three weeks. I don't understand a single thing and it is getting kind of overwhelming especially since I actually spend time studying it. I have a feeling i will also drop out soon.
Great video! The way you talked about the company that really tried to help you with 1on1 teaching and making you grow is such an important thing to mention! Reminds me of the quote: CFO asks CEO: “What happens if we invest in developing our people and then they leave us?” CEO: “ What happens if we don’t, and they stay?”
Hey... I am from a place where this type of information is not common or told. People here think that if you have no degree you will be nothing or just work minimum wage. After seeing your video about a year ago I have learnt coding the self-taught route and I'm a few months away from my first job. I cannot thank you enough for pivoting my life and that of my family the way you did. RUclips went from entertainment to a place of learning and betterment. I cannot thank you enough for this. I owe you more than just a comment. You saved me. May you be forever blessed and fruitful in all your endeavours.
You must come india once to see millions of student without a computer degree working as software engineer.. Some of them are in your country as well... ☺😊
@@ToThoseWhoVanished Almost every company. U just need good coding skills and knowledge about basics like algorithms, data structures etc which most of the students learn by themselves or training provided by campus placement team
thanks for sharing your journey. i had a history degree and went down the learn on my own route. it was so worth it. for me, creating a portfolio to show really helped with getting the first job.
Like that you started in the QA role, a lot of software engjneers have no testing ability. Software engineering is not just about coding as you go more. Coding is just a means of solving business problems. You already have some great skills, communcation and presentation skills becomes so vital as you move up.
Currently enrolled in a CS degree (3rd semester) myself and having more than 4 years of coding experience, I can say being self learned is less pressure. Sometimes one misses that part in university, because he/she would want to work on side projects along with the usual university projects. So yeah I guess I've been tight on time and sleep for a long time. Don't mind though, cause no pain no gain. Anyways, great vid. Subbed
@@jes1630 absolutely you just need to practice and have belief in your self. The great thing about CS is that there's so many quality videos related to it on Coursera, RUclips, Khan Academy. To be good in math all you need is a bit of practice, and always tell yourself if somebody else can do it then so can I. Having said this there is a lot of math in CS but you got this, just believe and work hard
@@abdullahbukhari1469 Thank you for this. I'm currently really struggling on a degree choice, I wanted to study History but I am worried about the job prospects. I am studying computer science at the moment but have a terrible teacher which is demotivating, I am also aware of the jump to degree level and don't want to end up regretting it. Just feeling quite lost. Regardless, best of luck with university and sorry for venting hah.
New subscriber here! 🙌🏻 I am now taking up an associate in computer science at UoPeople. I am having a hard time learning the ropes. Thank you for this video. It gives me a spark of hope.
Thank you so much for being genuine. I totally feel the imposter syndrome, I graduated with a completely different degree. I did go back to get an associate degree in c.s. I love your videos, you're so helpful!
I love how you smile unconsiously, you must love your job, great for you:))
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I've been working on software development for 30+ professionally and I can tell you must love this job to be good at it... most of the collegues I've had along my career that didn't love it and only did it for the money, ended quitting and doing something else. Software development is very very vocational.
I so needed to stumble into this video! I recently started to learn Python Basics and I am so afraid of every little thing. I feel like I am too old to change career paths (I am 26 yo) or that I am not smart enough even though I have a Chemical Engineering degree and have proven myself that I can do a lot. So thanks for sharing, for showing us we are not alone♥
I'm in your SAME boat. I'm also 26 with a chem eng degree looking to switch to CS. A ton of bumps along the road, but I'm thinking long term. Keep pushing!!
Very informative! Thank you. I just graduated with my bachelor in computer science and I feel like I know stuff but not good enough to do well on the interviews. So I’m just doing my best practicing everyday and hoping I land a job soon
Even with CS bachelor and Software Engineering graduate degree, I still went to the bootcamp because I wanted to switch from QA to web development in a fast paced environment with a community feel. My degrees didn't really focus on web development and by the time I decided to change web development had changed so much with all SPA trends. And the learning is still ongoing even after getting the job. There is always so much to learn. So the point is in this industry we should be willing to learn no matter what stage we are in our career. Something for all aspiring software engineers to consider.
This is exactly what I tell people. Don't set yourself up to be disappointed. Be realistic and naturally without noticing you will find yourself in a position you dreamed of. Very similar to being a line cook at cheesecake factory and people stress about the big push and without thinking and stressing your body just activates onto push mode and you walk through the fire without even noticing the big rush is gone and the fire is extinguished. Just do it! Great advise for everyone and thank you for saying what you said. +1
Thanks for this video. I'm entering my Senior year this Fall, been studying Bachelor degree for Animation, I'm into 3D Computer Animation. I met some amazing Professors who uses coding language with Computer Animation knowledge, and I loved that idea. I'm thinking after college, getting into Coding Bootcamp to learn Phython and C++, since these codes are good for app development. I hope that whatever it leads me to, I will love my job in being able to be creative, learn new skills in technology and have a flexible schedule.
I honestly needed this video, I went to school for 5 years for a Engineering degree, only to graduate into a pandemic. I am currently changing careers over to web developer. I am starting a boot camp next month and it's good to hear that it helps
Hi Tiff, love your channel + ty for sharing your story. I've always wondered what a coding bootcamp path was like so it was super insightful to hear your experience 😊 AND fashion and modeling to tech?! WHAT. A. BOSSWOMAN love to see it 👏👏👏
I've just started my first bootcamp and this video was very helpful and refreshing to me, it gave me hope and I needed. My college is totally different from computer science but i'm passionate about it now...Thank you!! Hope to be another woman in software development being able to inspire other women, so thank you for this. Greetings from Brasil =)
Thank you for the advice, they gave me so much mental support! I'm currently searching for a job. I constantly learning stuff trying to make a re-skilling to become a front-end dev, although I have a CS degree, my skills are not up to date. So I have to find a job to learn by doing. So my question is, when can I say that I'm junior or entry-level ;
@@kyacha1888 I read everything I could on the subjects and emersed myself in any project I could get my hands on as a contractor. This was in the mid to late 1990s. I lost a lot of time/money learning via on the job. Until recently, I've never been hired as an employee - only as a contractor. There are so many resources now compared to the 90s and early 2000s, i wouldn't know where to start. Info overload and often times a lack netiquette, IMHO. Best of luck to you!
Hi Tiff, thanks for this video. It encourages me to go back on track of dreaming to become a software developer. Im an accountant already who work full time and a hotel manager on weekends. but i amvery interested about coding. i feel like i will regret it if i didnt even try. I already took a class in introduction to python. but i need more learning. I started loving coding when I started coding in Excel to automate a data entry as an accountant.
Hey! I am a software engineer with no CS degree, (from Italy, we love our certificate as well!)it's definitely doable! What languages are you interested in learning?
Fantastic video and mentorship! Could not agree more on your advice and the mentality you need to have to get into the tech industry. Funny enough, your experience in tech in a QA role is essentially how I started as well. Always wanted to major in Computer Engineering or Computer Science, was too competitive + never got into the program and ended up with a Bachelor of Arts degree but was lucky enough to have taken STEM courses and nudged my way into a cybersecurity internship. Using that experience as leeway into the tech field and still wanting to become a software developer, managed end up getting a ft offer as a QA Analyst at a relatively small consulting company after multiple applications submitted elsewhere. Fast forward 3-4 years, although I am still in QA related role, I am doing software test automation and getting my hands dirty with coding, and will be using this experience (alongside self-learning) to catapult me into a Software Developer role in the near future. To anyone that is struggling to get into the tech space, it can be done but as Tiff mentioned - you must be persistent and don't be afraid to ask questions about software developer topics. Learning is limitless in the tech space.
One can do anything just needs to be persistent. The road might not be as straight as we thought sometimes have to open-minded as you said... one shouldn't be sticked to a particular way there's a lot of ways leading to a same destination. Thanku for this info though
I went to college for computer science. I can tell you if I was to do it all over again I would choose something else and learn programming on my own or at least minor in it. Fast forward to today as a consultant, I see so many contracts asking for degrees in finance, math, business, and even psychology but also asking for experience in programming. Not saying a CS degree isn't worth it, but think of it this way how many times have you seen people go back for their MBA or masters in X in general that have CS degrees? I've been in the IT industry for 12 years and I've never seen a CS degree go back. Bottom line, you don't need a CS degree to program.
Agreed bro.. I self taught myself and challenged many CS degree holder in the field when I am selling my ERP software. Those I met have "weak" understanding of the field and have been "programmed" to be like the computer, not flexible like myself when approaching the "IT" solution (what I mean "programmed" is the lack of common sense when create a software/apps)
Thanks for this video! I was so lost and not sure if I wanted to go back to school but I really want to get into the tech industry. You gave me so much motivation through this video. 🤩 Thanks!!
Thanks for this vid, it's really encouraging :) I'm in a bootcamp for a month now and I've joined it for the same reasons - to be in a kind of community and feel motivated. But sometimes I also had second thoughts - like if it would be better to get a degree. It's good to know that it's not always required :)
Probably the best advice i have got 06:13 Now i'm at same situation that you were before. i was demotivated and was thinking not to give the job interview but your video opened my mind. thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
How you described your self learning journey, thats how I felt trying to learn data science. Ive learned that I learn better by doing and interacting with others, so a bootcamp is definitely better for me.
Love the video! I have no requirements for applying to computer science degree but.. I am currently self-studying and also attending an online coding boot camp course which is awesome! Now learning on the basics of HTML and will make my way up to CSS, Javascript, react and more. You're right, there is a lot of distractions 😂 Thank you for boosting the confidence up! Keep it up! ❤
Thanks for the vid. Just graduated with an accounting degree (hoping to go into audit) but I've been looking to develop a secondary skillset in CS/software dev. I'll keep this vid in mind for the neat future; I appreciate it Tiff
I'm currently working with computer hardware and am taking a coding boot camp. Doing a boot camp by far for me is way cheaper than going to a four year school for CS. I really want to switch to coding so I definitely needed this video to help bolster my resolve.
Thank you Tiff your positivity radiates, and your voice is so soothing. I too get such a buzz from learning code it seems to change your way of logical perception, understanding any science or how the world will progress is so stimulating and extremely exciting, everything seems to becomes that much more clearer, So Thank you once again for your inspiration.
@@davidcu629 no way!! I started my final project last week, it’s going well! I’ve learned so much more than I could imagine, grown as a person, and made some incredible connections. Highly recommend!
I work 8-4 Monday to Friday and every night I spend five hours learning to code. I’ve been doing that for the past two weeks, and weekends I spend around 10 hours. So in total I spend 45 hours a week learning to code as I am a complete beginner. Do you think that is enough?
One thing I say to junior developers who work with me at the place where I work is: "As much as it seems to you that what you are doing, compared to what I do, is less important task or meaningless, trust me it's not. You are not here to compete with me, nor I am here to compete with you. Your tasks however they seem to you now, are the tasks that are needed for the team and then the company. If you already got here, you have nothing to lose, all you can do is to stay, be persistent and get the level of knowledge where I am at now. Because if you are saying to your self that "you can't" then just know that everyone told me that I can't, while I never said the same to my self. And here we are..."
Hello! Thank you very much for this video. It really inspired me even though I already study BSc in Comp Sci. I just felt fear and doubts even while having high grades (idk why). This video just gave me an inspiration and believe that I can do that till the end. Thank you again! Also would be interesting if you could make videos about which projects you work on and show some of them. 😊
Absolutely loved your video! As a computer engineering student myself, there's just one little thing I think is important to mention: although software developers and software Engineers have many skills in common, an Engineer is a licensed professional. In most states/countries, you can actually get huge fines and penalties for calling yourself an Engineer if you don't have your license (aka using the title without being certified). Can you practice engineering without a degree? Sure! It's even theoretically possible to become an Engineer with a big E without a degree, but also very difficult since you have to pass the same tests as those who did get the degree. Regardless, awesome video! I absolutely love that we're seeing more and more women coming into CS and SWE!
The answer stays on 3:27 => 3 month coding bootcamp => QA position in a small company instead of a DEV position => Be promoted to DEV role 1 year later, little by little, showing implication in DEV duties I got a colleague that is going through the same process, from manual testing to DEV. She's got the support from everyone and especially me
Maybe this is the route I should take after I complete a bootcamp.. still trying to wait for tiff or anyone to respond to my other comment prior to this. QA is not so bad and it’s specialized so good career if you stick to it and work your way up the ladder. Usually getting into coding paves the way for other careers in IT.
Your story is truly inspiring , I wanna go the same route as you but I’m worried I won’t be able to get a good job without moving far away from my current area. I live in the southern United States and have two elderly parents that I cannot leave.
i took a 1 year course in my high school after i graduated, then started working and i have been working as a .Net dev for the past 3 years, and i am proud of not wasting money on bootcamps or whatever It's super rare that interviewers ask for a degree in my country
@@samgeurdi6351 i bet i would not have a chance Thats not to say that later on when i hit the senior point (thai is around 7-9 for self taughts) that they wouldn't
Thanks for the encouraging video. Applying for jobs is like a whole skill onto itself i'm finding. I feel like I'm ready and then see all the "required" skills a mile long. I know its probably hr nonsense, but still disheartening. I suppose something has to happen if I keep at it :) I graduated with a philosophy degree and am self taught in coding - no bootcamps. Mostly udemy.
Oh, my YT page didn't show the full title and I read it as "how I became a software engineer without a computer" lol
XDDD lol best comment
omg same xD
same
ngl, I took CS at uni and our Web Programming lecturer had us write our final exam on paper so I guess it's possible lol
Same here ahahah
in brief:
In this video, the speaker shares her experience of becoming a software developer without a computer science degree. She had studied graphic communications management in university and discovered her interest in software development through a basic HTML and CSS coding course. After graduating, she decided against going back to school for another four years and explored alternative paths, such as self-teaching and attending a coding boot camp.
She chose a coding boot camp for the extra support and community it provided. After the three-month boot camp, she still felt unprepared but persisted in her efforts to find a job. She applied to smaller startups and eventually landed a QA position in a non-for-profit company. After working in QA for less than a year, she transitioned to a developer role within the same company. She has since moved on to a big tech company and enjoys her work as a software developer.
Her advice to others considering a career in software development without a computer science degree includes:
1. Be persistent, as the journey is not easy, but it is worth it.
2. Determine your learning style and choose a path accordingly, whether it's self-teaching, attending a boot camp, or joining online communities for support.
3. Focus on smaller companies, as they might have more relaxed interview processes and be more open to hiring juniors.
4. Be open to starting in a different tech-related position, such as QA, and then transition to a developer role.
She emphasizes that it's becoming more common for people to enter the software development field through alternative paths, and success is possible without a computer science degree.
thank you 🙏
I have just completed my first month as a software engineer after transitioning from construction in 16 months.
I have no degree or background in tech. I am self taught and completed full stack bootcamp.
If I can do it you can do it. Just never give up and stay consistent.
Congrats! that is awesome
@@TiffInTech thanks content creators like yourself, really help and keep the dream alive when doubts creep in.
What bootcamp did you take ? I’m currently looking at different bootcamp options. Any info would be awesome !
@@Jordan-io1pk are you in the US or UK?
@@JIPP71984 I'm in Washington state can you help me with that to find a perfect Bootcamp
Yes you can definitely do it. I am a Software Engineer without even a high school degree plus I started learning Software Engineering at age of 24.
Currently I am nearly 26 years old and I just got an internship with one of the best software companies on my country morocco.
Did you get lucky tho ?
@@emilpeev9981 I don't like saying this but I am an INTJ I hate quitting that is in my personality, my parents are not educated so I had to depend on myself all the time, I even had to work in the construction for 2 months to buy a laptop so I can study software engineering.
Before I went into software engineering I used to do some physics, math and metaphysics in my free time that helped a lot.
You are not lucky, you are warrior !
Hey man im morrocan too i was thinking of getting in software ingineering what is your advice
Probably I'll be doing same after 8 months, from 'may' to be exact!! I would also have completed 23!! Me too have No degree at all, no parent support to make it upto THE DREAM!! I'm also REALLY good at physics and maths... We have kinda same situation, i mean the PAST you!❤️ Thanks 4 sharing 💚
As someone who's finally getting into programming after getting my ADHD under control with non stimulant medications, I'm finally chasing my dream and learning to code, and to think like a programmer. It was so bad I was drifting through life, but now, I have goals and dreams, and ideas, and seeing videos like this pop up in my suggested videos feed keeps me motivated
I think I have ADHD too, and I'm trying to learn programation. What kind of medication you're taking? I'm feeling like you were feeling before the medication. Feels like i have no goals, can't pay attention to things. It feels like I can't achieve things in life.
You have any tips on how to do that? I too have adhd but have recently stopped taking my meds a year ago and am trying to get my life together :/
I have adhd too and I’m struggling to get it under control. I have the same questions as the other comments. 🙏🏻
I have adhd too but I don’t feel it’s as bad. What medication do you take ??
so how did you took control over
As a successful software developer lead, I am glad that you emphasized the persistence needed. I don’t have a degree. I couldn’t find the program I wanted for a school I could get into, so I self-taught. I was lucky enough to be given a comprehensive project and a long enough deadline that I could take the time to learn. Then I took courses to learn some basic computer science fundamentals and apply them to the technology stack I was developing. Keep learning! try not to learn too many languages and platforms, but also don’t stay with just one ecosystem. If you start with HTML/CSS (for instance) and it makes your head spin, go to something else. Find the language or the community that fits you. Good luck!
That was helpful
I have been learning programming for a year and a half by online courses while working full time and studying in a university in a completely different field. This week I’m going to my first 3 tech interviews. I’m so excited and along the way I never believed I can do that, but you are right that consistency IS the key. Just keep going ya’ll ❤
I've been working for almost 20 years as a software engineer and developer and I do have a degree. However, the great thing today, you don't need one as learning through online platoforms and communities is way faster if you are dedicated and passionate. It was not like that 20 years ago.
We have you guys that have been doing it for 20 years to thank for all the resources we have now. Thank you!
you think is possible? i mean all of hiring the company did not need com sci degree? I have other background degree
@@raccross8924 You need a network. She is a woman, so it is easier for her to bypass most requirements. A recruiter or the boss must have had a liking for someone like her to get a job like that with no degree or prior knowledge.
@@jacqueslee2592 facts
@@jacqueslee2592 are you saying that otherwise the chances are against you for entering the field without a CS degree?
I'm glad to see women who love the profession of developer. I have university studies in computer science and I learn a lot every day; sometimes difficult but persist. Thanks for the video!.😊
Thank you so much!!
@филип коренев I would narrow down where you want to go by location and what you want to major in. If you don’t know what you want to major in, go for largers schools, but even knowing you want to generally get into the sciences helps.
I was interested in Michigan and Massachusettes, so I looked at schools primarily in those areas. I didn’t know what major I wanted so I chose schools with business, art, and science degrees.
When you look up schools for a particular subject, they generally rank them. So, better schools for what you want in a major will be your “reach” school, harder to get into but you want to go.
Searching by location and price, look at what majors they offer and whether they teach it well. I eventually chose the major of Neuroscience, and I learned that some schools offer this but it’s actually a modified psychology degree, which I didn’t want, so I made sure the school I went to had a Neuroscience program with a sufficient science background. (you can look up the major requirements to see what classes they require to get the degree, e.g. “msu neuroscience major requirements”)
Schools more far away might also be “reach” schools due to potential cost.
Generally, you want a list of 5 schools you want to apply to and it doesn’t hurt to apply to more(unless the application fees really add up and you don’t want to pay a lot).
Women and ladies(kids even) are just as capable of understanding programming as anyone else... yes that includes men! I am proud you are stepping into it :) My heart goes to you as I never would have paid for that knowledge :( But, well i guess you got a much better reason to get into a programming job than me now :) I wanna say im sorry for you, but too... I know you are here for Tiffs guidance... and oh how Tiff will guide you well im sure :) Im a basically born programmer... and well shes starting to show me guidance even heh :) I think by watching her vids you will def fill better and find that job! Like she said in some other vid... your gonna have to try and try again many times! (BUT you will get a job!)
"How I Became a Software Engineer Without a Computer" ==> immediate click
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@@user-nc6bd5je2z Computer
@@benka3019 that means that your mind was just curious about this fantastic topic, although didn’t had any practical purpose to click. Me just the same. I just couldn’t react in time and take control on this “clickbate”.
cilcken..ok. norton ..yes to format no to no....amd.
Same here. Without a "computer" would've been more interesting.
I like software development becuz u can literally work from anywhere
@@TiffInTech hello
@@TiffInTech how many hours are given by you ?
To become expert
You must abandon idea to learn, if you have no idea what's it all about
@@sujalbalar316 expert? A decade at least, and I mean it. Minimum 10 years
YES!! I hate it for the same reason
I’m 25 year old and just find out that I like this
me too!
also me
me too! :)
In the same boat, I’ll be 25 this year!
I'm 33 bro so when you be my age you're gonna have been senior for some time already haha
I love your story, thanks for sharing. I have a computer science degree, but most of the successful people I’ve hired over the years did not....but their drive, willingness to learn and interest in helping others led them to accomplish great things. Keep on inspiring others :)
thank you so much! :)
@Huda Hassan That's funny
@Huda Hassan lmaoooo
My husband's a senior developer so I have my advantage there. The journey is definitely easier if you have the right support!
Right! That’s awesome!
give me some guideline
I agree I’m studying software engineering in my final year i’m a undergrad student and I have a older cousin who’s been in this field
for 15 years and his guidance has helped me out so much
Glad to hear others go through imposter syndrome too, thank you for the positive message and for sharing your story
I’m an accountant from Italy, currently learning phyton and business analysis. Feeling that you help your clients (local businesses) and providing added value it’s the best feeling ever had.
Btw my aunt is a data scientist in pharmaceutics even though having a bachelor in medicine, she told me that was little hard yet satisfying.
Im an accountant too and intend to learn python. Great to hear someone from the same profession pursuing same other things
I became a web developer after two completely unrelated colleges. Not that I didn't think about it before but my parents didn't encourage me, I lacked the confidence, I also didn't have a computer until I was 21. Then I just got more and more into computers and ended up ditching 8 years of studies to be a developer.
I studied 4 years of pre-med and im a full-time freelance writer now
@@kizplays9915 what kind of topics do you write about? Any tips on getting in that field?
@@Scarlettada hi. I work for a SaaS company and a marketing agency right now. I typically write blogs about project management, moving companies, tech, and healthcare. If you want to get in, you might want to work on your grammar first. Then focus on writing in a fun and engaging style. Gather your write-ups/samples in one portfolio so you can easily reference them when you apply. I also recommend reading 'So You Think You Can Write?' by Julia McCoy. It helped me a lot.
wow I also don't have a computer and I think it's going to be really hard. I really want to do IT too
This was a great video! I was getting my undergrad degree in Political Science. I loved it but also was really interested in computer science but, like you, wasn't about to start another degree. I first was going to get a CS minor, but after talking to the department head, realized getting a CS masters made a lot more sense. It took me about 3-3.5 years to get it because I had to obviously take the CS fundamental courses before I could begin the Masters. I delayed my undergrad graduation by a year to get those classes in, then I officially became a Masters student. I worked in cybersecurity for four years after that, hated it, and decided I wanted to do front-end web development because i loved the creative aspect to it. So I quit my job, self taught for a year (RUclips, Udemy courses, books, etc...) and will be starting my first job as a front-end web developer in 2 weeks. That year of self teaching was extremely hard mentally, not knowing when or if it would pay off and getting your first job with no experience is really hard. Everyone's path is different, but you can learn anything from the internet if you're willing to.
Thanks for sharing your journey!! 👏👏
When you applied for your position did you use a portfolio ?
I'm realizing more and more that the golden quality you need to build up any skill is humility. Seeing yourself as you are and building from there instead of creating some grandiose view of yourself in your head and expecting things conform to your inflated view and then getting upset and confused when they don't. You're a newbie and you somehow imagine that your rate of improvement, or skill level, or certain lower level roles are somehow beneath you. You've to say to yourself, "who the hell do you think you are?" And as I was listening to your journey, I felt that at each juncture, your decisions indicate that you possessed this quality. It's really wonderful.
Thanks for the encouragement. My friend did a month of learning Java and then jumped into an 8 week intense boot camp for full stack training. He made it through with great scores and got a job. I, on the other hand, have been studying Java for 3 months. I'm enjoying it, and it's not difficult, but I'm not staying very diligent with my course work (udemy self paced). I kind of miss having deadlines and someone expecting me to have completed a certain amount of something.... Maybe I need to hire an accountability couch XD
Everyone learns so differently it’s very true! Yah it can be tough to stay focused!
I think that 'community sense' that you mentioned is the biggest advantage at the bootcamp. When you self-study you just doing things that nobody can check or appreciate, and every time you need to force yourself being disciplined and hardwork, which takes lots of energy. But on bootcamp everything goes smoothly. It took 7 month for me to get a job as a web developer from zero, 3 selfstudy, 3 month bootcamp and 1 month job hunting. If you have a chance to go to bootcamp I think that is the best way to get into tech industry. You will know many likeminded people and getting a job will become much more easier.
Hey man, just would like to ask. How many hours per day did you dedicated for self-study? I'm planning to go with this path as well. Couple of months for self-study then bootcamp. And what resources did you used during that self-study period. Thanks, much appreciated.
Last year I got my first job ever after school, and also my first tech job in tech support. It's a long way ti being a developer, but so much closer than when I was at home learning by myself.
Great video! Your video helped me a lot, I'm 22 years old and I am a health professional but i discovered coding and I'm in love with that so I decided to study by my own and be a self taught programmer, wish me luck haha and greets from Argentina!
Sorry for my english btw
You got this!!
So, how did you do?
One advice you can get from this video is: "If i can do it, you CAN do it too".
“Have you ever wanted to be in technology or dreamt of being software development but don’t want to go back to bachelors for computer science for another 4 years” this explains my life right now.! Thank you for info
Happy that you were able to cut out the school and make it work with your persistence! Haha. My path was different , and I did go back to school for a second undergraduate CS degree. You'll definitely get exposed to more things going back to school - the broader workings of computers across the spectrum like how to computers talk to each other, how do they work at the logic gate level and general PC architecture, software architecture, application development and design, cybersecurity, algorithms, databases, and other stuff. Unfortunately our school didn't teach us much on testing or CI/CD. I only grasped that after my first internship. However, I think you're a lot better trained as a general software developer in general if you go to college, as well as you can explore which type of computer related engineer you want to do (software, network, database, dev-ops, high-level programming (javascript, java) or lower-level (C, and tasks involving scripting). You'll use a lot of the concepts you learned in various ways but a fair bit of the stuff isn't going to directly apply to whatever job you start in initially. However, I have friends who went the Bootcamp route and they either got a QA or junior dev job at smaller startups. It's really about getting your foot in the door, and learning on the job you'd probably be a ** significantly ** better developer on the project at year 3 than someone who went back to school for 3 years and is fresh to the project; simply because when you work a job all you do is code or work with code + get paid to do it. So bootcamp is probably the smarter route if you're looking for a career switch, but you'll have a steeper learning curve on the job and to figure out all the processes of development. If you want to be a network engineer you can take certifications like cisco's CNNA with self-study. Or take it piece wise CCENT1 + CCENT2 = CCNA. But you'll likely get a job at a help-desk first before switching to a network engineer role. That was something I looked at before ending up going back to school. Anyways, going back to college was really tough mentally in my late 20's, but I don't regret it. I think I'm a lot more capable and well-rounded as a result. Bootcamp is a good route too though.
Fully agree with this. I’m 29 and doing a CS degree. I do a lot of separate online Udemy courses, even did a full stack web dev course. The latter had some enjoyable parts but I learnt nothing about computers.
I love learning how computers work and this is how I know I probably want to be as far away from the front end as possible.
Doing a bootcamp could possibly land you an entry level web deb job but to become more than a programmer, to become a software engineer, the degree is your best route.
The word software engineer is thrown around a lot these days. Unless you’re actually building software, you’re not a software engineer.
me wondering how she became a software engineer without a computer
lol title
@Slime Boi wow your name is so apt
That's why clicked on.
@@muadhnate I forgot about that, the movie Hidden Figures was showing how they coded back in those days.
@@juzam6 100%
Just wanna share a little bit of my experience. I am a software engineer and my major in university was International Business and I didn't go to a bootcamp. I would say it is not an easy journey to learn programming without solid IT knowledge. Also, there are still a lot of IT companies that want to see CS degree on the resume. But the demand in IT industry is growing, just keep trying and the chance to get in is there. So, to be a software engineers without CS degree is challenging but it is pretty much possible.
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I just woke up and saw you talking about such great things made my day and my decision to be a programmer is more focused now. Thank you for helping those who needed this kind of support and knowledge. Subscribed🙌🏻
Thank you for this video! I have a degree in Fashion Marketing with a background in Psychology and transitioning into tech which I love. I am taking a UX design course and doing some basic HTML practice tasks. I love that in tech you can apply creativity skills alongside technical skills.
I just dropped out of my only CS class today, I guess RUclips has great comedic timing haha. I really wanted to like learn CS, the class was teaching us about Python, but they moved wayyy to fast for someone who hasn't ever coded before.
Hope you can do self learning at your pace!
Don't feel bad man, I was taking C# around this time last semester. Screwed around and let the class get away from me and had to Withdraw. Taking it again and I feel the same way. Try to do some self learning and maybe try the class again and you might have an easier time. But you are definitely not the only one that is struggling with this, there is a learning curve.
Omg I'm also learning python now and have been taking the class for three weeks. I don't understand a single thing and it is getting kind of overwhelming especially since I actually spend time studying it. I have a feeling i will also drop out soon.
@@sarak8405 Feeling the same way with C# I hope you can make it through. Im trying to power through C# myself
I have been feeling the same way!
You guys are the kind of people i like. I look up to you guys. Just watching you guys make me feel so good.
yay!!
Lovely. Thanks for sharing. It's hard to maintain confidence in this process, videos like this are always welcome.
You can do it!
Great video! The way you talked about the company that really tried to help you with 1on1 teaching and making you grow is such an important thing to mention!
Reminds me of the quote:
CFO asks CEO: “What happens if we invest in developing our people and then they leave us?”
CEO: “ What happens if we don’t, and they stay?”
Thank you!! And love that quote.. so true!!
Hey... I am from a place where this type of information is not common or told. People here think that if you have no degree you will be nothing or just work minimum wage. After seeing your video about a year ago I have learnt coding the self-taught route and I'm a few months away from my first job. I cannot thank you enough for pivoting my life and that of my family the way you did. RUclips went from entertainment to a place of learning and betterment. I cannot thank you enough for this. I owe you more than just a comment. You saved me. May you be forever blessed and fruitful in all your endeavours.
You must come india once to see millions of student without a computer degree working as software engineer.. Some of them are in your country as well... ☺😊
Definitely 😊
I am from biotech.....would start teaching myself in breaks .IT jobs for backup 🌝
Really?? Please tell the company names who hire software engineers w/o a cs degree in India.
@@ToThoseWhoVanished Almost every company. U just need good coding skills and knowledge about basics like algorithms, data structures etc which most of the students learn by themselves or training provided by campus placement team
@@avocado1663 please tell any names, I will apply without cs degree
you have no idea how much i needed this , thank you a lot and good luck in your career .
I sometimes wonder why I spent 4 years studying all those things, it just took 3 months for many people from 0 to job, amazing and unbelievable!
3 montsh ? Is it really possible
@@hajazizov5008 You'd have to work 10+ hours a day, and will take luck, but I think it's possible.
There’s still some advantages that getting a degree has that boot camps don’t
Subscribed as soon as you said you came from fashion cuz now I am able to completely relate. I just started with tech and surprisingly, I LOVE IT!
Yay! That’s awesome to hear!💕
thanks for sharing your journey. i had a history degree and went down the learn on my own route. it was so worth it. for me, creating a portfolio to show really helped with getting the first job.
Like that you started in the QA role, a lot of software engjneers have no testing ability. Software engineering is not just about coding as you go more. Coding is just a means of solving business problems. You already have some great skills, communcation and presentation skills becomes so vital as you move up.
Currently enrolled in a CS degree (3rd semester) myself and having more than 4 years of coding experience, I can say being self learned is less pressure. Sometimes one misses that part in university, because he/she would want to work on side projects along with the usual university projects. So yeah I guess I've been tight on time and sleep for a long time. Don't mind though, cause no pain no gain. Anyways, great vid. Subbed
this was inspiring, yes sacrifices must be made. Do you think someone can work hard and achieve the degree despite struggling with math?
@@jes1630 absolutely you just need to practice and have belief in your self. The great thing about CS is that there's so many quality videos related to it on Coursera, RUclips, Khan Academy. To be good in math all you need is a bit of practice, and always tell yourself if somebody else can do it then so can I. Having said this there is a lot of math in CS but you got this, just believe and work hard
@@abdullahbukhari1469 Thank you for this. I'm currently really struggling on a degree choice, I wanted to study History but I am worried about the job prospects. I am studying computer science at the moment but have a terrible teacher which is demotivating, I am also aware of the jump to degree level and don't want to end up regretting it. Just feeling quite lost. Regardless, best of luck with university and sorry for venting hah.
New subscriber here! 🙌🏻 I am now taking up an associate in computer science at UoPeople. I am having a hard time learning the ropes. Thank you for this video. It gives me a spark of hope.
Thank you so much for being genuine. I totally feel the imposter syndrome, I graduated with a completely different degree. I did go back to get an associate degree in c.s. I love your videos, you're so helpful!
Thanks for sharing!!
I love how you smile unconsiously, you must love your job, great for you:))
I've been working on software development for 30+ professionally and I can tell you must love this job to be good at it... most of the collegues I've had along my career that didn't love it and only did it for the money, ended quitting and doing something else. Software development is very very vocational.
I so needed to stumble into this video! I recently started to learn Python Basics and I am so afraid of every little thing. I feel like I am too old to change career paths (I am 26 yo) or that I am not smart enough even though I have a Chemical Engineering degree and have proven myself that I can do a lot.
So thanks for sharing, for showing us we are not alone♥
Thank you for sharing! That is awesome you are switching careers. You got this!💕💕
I am 34 and learning Python and trying to switch career from law so it really is not too late for you, you have loads of time! keep going.
@@kitkatk5152 Oh, thank you so much🥺. I am cheering you over here and I wish you luck✨♥
I'm in your SAME boat. I'm also 26 with a chem eng degree looking to switch to CS. A ton of bumps along the road, but I'm thinking long term. Keep pushing!!
@@geneieesqueda8323 ohhh, I don't feel so alone right now🥰. Good luck and don't give up! I believe in you✨
Very informative! Thank you. I just graduated with my bachelor in computer science and I feel like I know stuff but not good enough to do well on the interviews. So I’m just doing my best practicing everyday and hoping I land a job soon
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this , i'm going through a similar experience and you are right persistence is key!
Even with CS bachelor and Software Engineering graduate degree, I still went to the bootcamp because I wanted to switch from QA to web development in a fast paced environment with a community feel. My degrees didn't really focus on web development and by the time I decided to change web development had changed so much with all SPA trends. And the learning is still ongoing even after getting the job. There is always so much to learn. So the point is in this industry we should be willing to learn no matter what stage we are in our career. Something for all aspiring software engineers to consider.
So true! Always learning 👏👏👏
This is exactly what I tell people. Don't set yourself up to be disappointed. Be realistic and naturally without noticing you will find yourself in a position you dreamed of. Very similar to being a line cook at cheesecake factory and people stress about the big push and without thinking and stressing your body just activates onto push mode and you walk through the fire without even noticing the big rush is gone and the fire is extinguished. Just do it!
Great advise for everyone and thank you for saying what you said. +1
Thank you!! Appreciate your thoughts too 😊
Thanks for this video. I'm entering my Senior year this Fall, been studying Bachelor degree for Animation, I'm into 3D Computer Animation. I met some amazing Professors who uses coding language with Computer Animation knowledge, and I loved that idea. I'm thinking after college, getting into Coding Bootcamp to learn Phython and C++, since these codes are good for app development. I hope that whatever it leads me to, I will love my job in being able to be creative, learn new skills in technology and have a flexible schedule.
I honestly needed this video, I went to school for 5 years for a Engineering degree, only to graduate into a pandemic. I am currently changing careers over to web developer. I am starting a boot camp next month and it's good to hear that it helps
What boot camp?
Thank you; I really needed this. I'm learning Python--which is challenging, but I do enjoy studying it.
Hi Tiff, love your channel + ty for sharing your story. I've always wondered what a coding bootcamp path was like so it was super insightful to hear your experience 😊 AND fashion and modeling to tech?! WHAT. A. BOSSWOMAN love to see it 👏👏👏
Thanks for your kind words!!
@@TiffInTech of course ❤️
I am on the same page! I guess Tech has a magic ✨ once it gets u, we all just fall in love with this! Thanks
I've just started my first bootcamp and this video was very helpful and refreshing to me, it gave me hope and I needed. My college is totally different from computer science but i'm passionate about it now...Thank you!! Hope to be another woman in software development being able to inspire other women, so thank you for this. Greetings from Brasil =)
What boot camp did you do? Did you finish and if you did are you making good income?
Thank you for the advice, they gave me so much mental support! I'm currently searching for a job. I constantly learning stuff trying to make a re-skilling to become a front-end dev, although I have a CS degree, my skills are not up to date. So I have to find a job to learn by doing. So my question is, when can I say that I'm junior or entry-level ;
Hello Tiff!
I taught myself programming, and it has been so great that I will be retiring early in 18 months. Nice video!
What resources did you use. Am going the same route.
How did you master data structures and algorithms?
@@kyacha1888 I read everything I could on the subjects and emersed myself in any project I could get my hands on as a contractor. This was in the mid to late 1990s. I lost a lot of time/money learning via on the job. Until recently, I've never been hired as an employee - only as a contractor. There are so many resources now compared to the 90s and early 2000s, i wouldn't know where to start. Info overload and often times a lack netiquette, IMHO. Best of luck to you!
Wow, very inspiring! Thank you for taking the time to share your journey. I need your perspective insights.
Thank you!!
Hi Tiff, thanks for this video. It encourages me to go back on track of dreaming to become a software developer. Im an accountant already who work full time and a hotel manager on weekends. but i amvery interested about coding. i feel like i will regret it if i didnt even try. I already took a class in introduction to python. but i need more learning. I started loving coding when I started coding in Excel to automate a data entry as an accountant.
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@@gustavosouza45994 I don't know what that means and don't choose to objectify...yet beauty is subjective...have a good day sir
@@gustavosouza45994 I was speaking more of inner beauty and good positive energy but I do agree with you ...take care
people that was a fucking compliment, why everybody is getting busy to criticise the comment where the lady thanked the person! All losers!
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In Spain people have a love for certificates more than results, but this video encouraged me
Hey! I am a software engineer with no CS degree, (from Italy, we love our certificate as well!)it's definitely doable! What languages are you interested in learning?
@@valentinaa8213 this gives me hope
@@peliac7319 So happy to hear. Are you learning how to code?
@@valentinaa8213 im fluent in C and in python, im trying to learn advanced topics tho
@@valentinaa8213 can U teach Me 😘
Fantastic video and mentorship! Could not agree more on your advice and the mentality you need to have to get into the tech industry. Funny enough, your experience in tech in a QA role is essentially how I started as well. Always wanted to major in Computer Engineering or Computer Science, was too competitive + never got into the program and ended up with a Bachelor of Arts degree but was lucky enough to have taken STEM courses and nudged my way into a cybersecurity internship. Using that experience as leeway into the tech field and still wanting to become a software developer, managed end up getting a ft offer as a QA Analyst at a relatively small consulting company after multiple applications submitted elsewhere. Fast forward 3-4 years, although I am still in QA related role, I am doing software test automation and getting my hands dirty with coding, and will be using this experience (alongside self-learning) to catapult me into a Software Developer role in the near future. To anyone that is struggling to get into the tech space, it can be done but as Tiff mentioned - you must be persistent and don't be afraid to ask questions about software developer topics. Learning is limitless in the tech space.
One can do anything just needs to be persistent. The road might not be as straight as we thought sometimes have to open-minded as you said... one shouldn't be sticked to a particular way there's a lot of ways leading to a same destination. Thanku for this info though
@@TiffInTech oh glad you replied
I went to college for computer science. I can tell you if I was to do it all over again I would choose something else and learn programming on my own or at least minor in it.
Fast forward to today as a consultant, I see so many contracts asking for degrees in finance, math, business, and even psychology but also asking for experience in programming.
Not saying a CS degree isn't worth it, but think of it this way how many times have you seen people go back for their MBA or masters in X in general that have CS degrees? I've been in the IT industry for 12 years and I've never seen a CS degree go back.
Bottom line, you don't need a CS degree to program.
Agreed bro..
I self taught myself and challenged many CS degree holder in the field when I am selling my ERP software. Those I met have "weak" understanding of the field and have been "programmed" to be like the computer, not flexible like myself when approaching the "IT" solution (what I mean "programmed" is the lack of common sense when create a software/apps)
Thank you so much for such awesome content. You’ve encouraged/motivated me so much not to give up 😊 great to have such a great “mentor”
Aww really appreciate your comment
You did this (video) very nicely! Opportunites did come and you never slacked.
Thanks for this video! I was so lost and not sure if I wanted to go back to school but I really want to get into the tech industry. You gave me so much motivation through this video. 🤩 Thanks!!
So great to hear! You got this!!
Thanks for this vid, it's really encouraging :) I'm in a bootcamp for a month now and I've joined it for the same reasons - to be in a kind of community and feel motivated. But sometimes I also had second thoughts - like if it would be better to get a degree. It's good to know that it's not always required :)
It’s not! You got this!! Landing the first job is always the hardest but from there you will get tons of offers!
@@TiffInTech which boot camp do you recommend? Please help!
Probably the best advice i have got 06:13 Now i'm at same situation that you were before. i was demotivated and was thinking not to give the job interview but your video opened my mind. thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
You got this! Keep on going! And thank you!
How you described your self learning journey, thats how I felt trying to learn data science. Ive learned that I learn better by doing and interacting with others, so a bootcamp is definitely better for me.
Love the video! I have no requirements for applying to computer science degree but.. I am currently self-studying and also attending an online coding boot camp course which is awesome! Now learning on the basics of HTML and will make my way up to CSS, Javascript, react and more. You're right, there is a lot of distractions 😂
Thank you for boosting the confidence up! Keep it up! ❤
You got this!!
Nice sharing, and I'm always be your big fan!
Thank you Nedwin
I'm starting BrainStation's Web Dev bootcamp in a month and your videos have really helped with advice and additional info, thank you!
Glad to hear that Sean thank you.
Thanks for the vid. Just graduated with an accounting degree (hoping to go into audit) but I've been looking to develop a secondary skillset in CS/software dev. I'll keep this vid in mind for the neat future; I appreciate it Tiff
This is inspiring. Thank you for the Encouragement
I am studying CS in university and it is very stressful. We always need to be persistent.. Great video. Feeling more motivated now..
@@TiffInTech Thank you so much. I have been following your channel for a while and your videos are great.
Well RIP bro, these CS bandwagons are trying to take your job by taking a loopholes
Thank you for this .. been thinking of changing my career path. This video was helpful because I’m hearing it from a woman’s perspective
Forsure! 😊💕 love hearing other women getting into tech!
@@TiffInTech are there youtubers or books that you recommend?
I'm currently working with computer hardware and am taking a coding boot camp. Doing a boot camp by far for me is way cheaper than going to a four year school for CS. I really want to switch to coding so I definitely needed this video to help bolster my resolve.
Thank you Tiff your positivity radiates, and your voice is so soothing. I too get such a buzz from learning code it seems to change your way of logical perception, understanding any science or how the world will progress is so stimulating and extremely exciting, everything seems to becomes that much more clearer, So Thank you once again for your inspiration.
Thank you!!
Going to Bethel School of Technology - graduate in July! Will update when I land a job
Heey I was planning to go there too, How's is it going?
@@davidcu629 no way!! I started my final project last week, it’s going well! I’ve learned so much more than I could imagine, grown as a person, and made some incredible connections. Highly recommend!
I became developer not via bootcamp but through the army by accident, can never have a degree
Thank you Tiff. Many needs to hear this to be encouraged. I'll be sharing it to many.
Thank you! Hope you have a great day!
Thank you so much for sharing your very inspiring story and advises, you help me a lot
Computer Science is a broad topic
I work 8-4 Monday to Friday and every night I spend five hours learning to code. I’ve been doing that for the past two weeks, and weekends I spend around 10 hours. So in total I spend 45 hours a week learning to code as I am a complete beginner. Do you think that is enough?
YES
I d say its actually too much and the risk of burnout is pretty close by! Do 1h/day but do it with intent! It will change everythingg
Don’t burn out, I’d do 2 1-hour sessions a night maximum.
One thing I say to junior developers who work with me at the place where I work is: "As much as it seems to you that what you are doing, compared to what I do, is less important task or meaningless, trust me it's not.
You are not here to compete with me, nor I am here to compete with you. Your tasks however they seem to you now, are the tasks that are needed for the team and then the company.
If you already got here, you have nothing to lose, all you can do is to stay, be persistent and get the level of knowledge where I am at now. Because if you are saying to your self that "you can't" then just know that everyone told me that I can't, while I never said the same to my self.
And here we are..."
thank you for sharing this. I'm in a bootcamp myself and it's overwhelming. Your advice of being persistent really speak to me!!!
Hello! Thank you very much for this video. It really inspired me even though I already study BSc in Comp Sci. I just felt fear and doubts even while having high grades (idk why). This video just gave me an inspiration and believe that I can do that till the end. Thank you again! Also would be interesting if you could make videos about which projects you work on and show some of them. 😊
how I become a software engineer without a computer
Thank you Tiffin to share your information with us :) have nice day
Thank you. I am recent grad but need to go to coding bootcamp. This lifted my spirits
Absolutely loved your video! As a computer engineering student myself, there's just one little thing I think is important to mention: although software developers and software Engineers have many skills in common, an Engineer is a licensed professional. In most states/countries, you can actually get huge fines and penalties for calling yourself an Engineer if you don't have your license (aka using the title without being certified). Can you practice engineering without a degree? Sure! It's even theoretically possible to become an Engineer with a big E without a degree, but also very difficult since you have to pass the same tests as those who did get the degree.
Regardless, awesome video! I absolutely love that we're seeing more and more women coming into CS and SWE!
Thank you! In North America the terms are interchangeable on job applications!
The answer stays on 3:27
=> 3 month coding bootcamp
=> QA position in a small company instead of a DEV position
=> Be promoted to DEV role 1 year later, little by little, showing implication in DEV duties
I got a colleague that is going through the same process, from manual testing to DEV. She's got the support from everyone and especially me
Maybe this is the route I should take after I complete a bootcamp.. still trying to wait for tiff or anyone to respond to my other comment prior to this. QA is not so bad and it’s specialized so good career if you stick to it and work your way up the ladder. Usually getting into coding paves the way for other careers in IT.
The start-up tip is something I never considered, thank you
forsure!
Your story is truly inspiring , I wanna go the same route as you but I’m worried I won’t be able to get a good job without moving far away from my current area. I live in the southern United States and have two elderly parents that I cannot leave.
Thank you! And there are tons of great remote jobs that you can do from home too! ❤️
i took a 1 year course in my high school after i graduated, then started working and i have been working as a .Net dev for the past 3 years, and i am proud of not wasting money on bootcamps or whatever
It's super rare that interviewers ask for a degree in my country
Which country are you from?
So you got a computer science job without having a university degree?
Yes after a week of job hunting
@@sevenver I’m sure FAANG would hire you on the spot
@@samgeurdi6351 i bet i would not have a chance
Thats not to say that later on when i hit the senior point (thai is around 7-9 for self taughts) that they wouldn't
Could you please share which boot camp you were in? Which ones would you recommend?
Thanks for the information and perspective!
Thanks for the encouraging video. Applying for jobs is like a whole skill onto itself i'm finding. I feel like I'm ready and then see all the "required" skills a mile long. I know its probably hr nonsense, but still disheartening. I suppose something has to happen if I keep at it :)
I graduated with a philosophy degree and am self taught in coding - no bootcamps. Mostly udemy.